Is the Elegoo Neptune 4 Plus 3D Printer Worth it for Beginners?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Elegoo Neptune 4 family of printers are very popular due to their affordability and notoriety. But are they recommended as someone's first 3D printer? This is my experience with the Elegoo Neptune 4 Plus.
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Chapters
0:00 Specs, Price and Uses
1:14 Beginner Friendly?
2:04 Assembly Process
4:37 Leveling Process
6:56 Z-Offset Problems
9:45 Updating the Firmware
11:55 Things I Like
14:55 Print Samples
21:39 Conclusion
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Loving your videos thank you
I was so close to buying this printer a few weeks ago due to needing a larger build volume than 220x220 for quite a few projects. I ended up getting a Qidi X-Plus 3 as the build volume is good for my current needs and I wanted to see what the core XY side of 3d printing was like. Hopefully the next iteration of the Neptune series will take a step forward in the dated aspects that you mentioned in this video. All in all, this was a great video all the way around and I look forward to seeing some more of your content in the future as I just hit subscribe.
I agree.. the pro was my first printer and first prints was great then started to get not so great and updated and fix some issues. But this printer forces you to learn and dont regret it because learned a lot.
With all my tuning have great and consistent prints now. My next printer it going to be bambu labs A1 when it available. The mini just to small for me.
Great video 👍🏼
Im a newbie here. I personally loved the 4plus and its AMAZING. I wish i jad a Bambu labs as my friend has one but its pricey. I did research and followed the foundations of what to do and man im having a great time. I am opening my shop after having good sales from local craft shop. Maybe im in the minority but could be a major part of i domw kmow the bads from being experinced and because of that "old world tech" seems like its the norm and part of the process
Thanks for sharing about the setup and teaching me about hueforge.
You're welcome!
New to 3d printing and i just ordered this printer. looking forward to getting it and learning. I'm a handyman type of guy so i am not put off by having to tune it. i work in IT and am used to having to tune stuff to get it working. Thanks for the great video.
How did that turn out for you? I was of the identical mindset and now like a month later I still can't get it to work and am on the verge of throwing it out of the window just to see it shatter into tiny pieces - that would be the biggest satisfaction it gave me so far.
@@user-yx2wn7ew9b i got it working fine. just watch alot of videos on youtub. here it is in a nutshell: heat the bed to 60 deg C. put a piece of paper in the middle and press the level button. in the z offset in the middle of the screen move the head up and down until you can pull the paper out but not push it in. then press the auxilliary button. do the same for all of the positions in there and adjust up and down using the wheels under the bed. when all done click save. for the print head settings i use 205 deg C for the head and 65 deg C for the bed for PLA. after that i got good prints. there is other calibration that can be done to get better results. i use Orca Slicer and it has calibration tool that work great. Give it a try. let me know how you make out. i do this bed leveling calibration every so often ( abt 2 wks) because use moves the wheels underneath throwing off the levelling.
Very good and fair review. I've got the Neptune 4 Max, more or less the same beast. I found updating the latest (.65) firmware fixed my z-offset issues. The machine definitely had a rocky launch, but the latest firmware work quite well. The print quality is very good. You are spot on, it's a good deal in terms of price, but I wouldn't call it newbie friendly -- especially now we're seeing printers with auto z-offset becoming a standard feature at lower price points. It's a good machine, if you can put up with some fiddling.
The Z offset issue was fixed in the firmware and the heatbed issue can be fixed if you preheat the bed for 30 minutes and start the auto calibration after.... (Neptune 4 Max)
10-15min for Plus
An incredibly honest review! I have this printer,and I agree with every point made. It has paper-under-the-nozzle bed leveling ... but I think this is a great addition to auto-bed-leveling. Not for the beginner, but still a good entry-level printer for a technical person on a budget.
I had considered getting this printer but ended up with the Adventurer 5M. Some of the things you mentioned plus not wanting a bed slinger. So far very happy with the 5M.
Can you print full size helmets with the 5M? I want to do helmets like Magneto, Samus, Master Chief, Nova, etc. That and cosplay armor pieces are what I’m really going for. Ik I’ll have to slice armor but could I do adult size helmets in one piece?
I'm going to start using the term "Helmet Class" to describe that size of printer 🤣
Can you recommend a beginner 3d machine in that same size of specs?
I have the side of gantry/base I’m fastening slightly hanging over the table so I can fasten the screws easily. The bulk of the printer is still supported by the table.
I never got this complaint about this style printer, many non technically minded consumers manage to install the feet/base on their new monitors/televisions every day. The difference is, anyone working with a 3d printer will absolutely need to acquire some basic skills in working with these machines, assembling 2 major components is the least demanding thing you'll ever do once mods service or repairs inevitably become a thing.
When you put the printer together you can just put the base on a table, hanging off the edge of the table 5-6 inches, and then screw the gantry onto the overhanging base. No tilting required.
Wow I got this printer, and the neptune 3 pro. Both are amazing and setup in 15-20 minutes with near perfect prints. User interface is so simple and the way you would think it should be. And give me zero issues compared to all my other printers. Even the Bamboo printers have had their share of issues. If you are thinking this hobby is like using a microwave it is not! It will require some input from you. It is a hobby.
If you want printing as a hobby, thats fine. But other might want a tool.
Did you print anything big covering the whole or most of the build plate?
@danielkorrmann5467 well your in the wrong market. You will pay thousands for a commercial machine. And it will still need calibration and tuning from time to time. All the printers being talked about are hobby grade. But so far my neptune printers are giving me more bang for the buck than anything else . What really gets me is the near perfect layer lines and print tolerance using stock elegoo profiles.
@@bob557 Are all tools you use in your house commercial grade ? No. Some people buy a printer because they want to print stuff. Not because they want to tinker with the maschine. Like i own a oven to bake things and not because i like to tinker with it. These user exist and should be able to buy mashines that are made as tools. I like to make my Ender 3 a frabkenstein beast, but if people want to use a printer out of the Box thats fine.
@BrainActivity1 yes I have and if the bed gets loose you tighten the nuts to they just snug and rerun bed calibration and it's good to go. I've printed a 12in by 12in organizing tool box I scaled up a little. I've printed a 58hr and 62hr airless basketballs out of pla flex. On neptune 4 plus. And I couldn't list all the prints I've printed on neptune 3 pro and I've only ran bed leveling on it twice. I just hit print a walk away with these machines, don't even watch first layer go down.
You don’t need the big fan. Took mine off the first week. Get’s in the way of large prints.
And what the best printer for beginers and with all 2024 perks?
For around the same price, I'd say Flashforge Adventurer 5M, Bambu Lab A1 Mini or Creality Ender 3 V3 KE.
A1Mini. It just works.
When did you make the video
I sold mine. It was a total dumpster fire. I got a Kobra 2 plus instead. That printer has been money from the start.
I've been thinking about doing the same but K2 has its own massive list of problems that people report, one of which is a terrible or nonexistent customer support.
good lord even if you updatw and prep machine fir two days its still a waste to buy... bambu mini it is
Nope not for beginners Elegoo and Anycubic are not for beginners there's too much deviation in their machines, IMO I think these machines are great for tinkerers, i made a post on reddit about the Kobra Neo...........................
I disagree. This is my first one and it's been amazing! Just two 3 videos and I got the basics down. Opened up my own shop and started selling. It's amazing
@@genises200 if you're a tinkerer yeah they're fantastic but if you don't know that you have to tinker with these to get them to print well then no they're not for beginners and usually a beginner is not a tinkerer
@NoMercyFtw A tinker could be a beginning. Not like I was an expert at first. Not much tinkering I see it if you just follow the basics and other more experienced people do but I see your point
@@genises200 of course obviously anybody could be a ******* beginner you're a beginner when you do something for the first time but the type of beginner I'm talking about is somebody who wants to turn something on and for it to work out-of-the-box and not have to do 2 to 3 weeks of setup and tweaking, either you're oblivious or you work for one of these companies either way GFY
@NoMercyFtw I see you couldn't hold a civil conversation. I even said I understand your point on some of these issues. My next go to is the Bambu Printer because of how cool the multi color print is! We'll I appreciate your input and hope you have a good day and a even better week
Imo this is a false review. I am brand new to 3d printing. Only watched videos prior to buying this Elegoo 4 plus printer and it set up so easy and made my very first banshee in less than an hour. Saying that this is not for beginners is like pointing out that first timers are less than smart. A person can watch a video once on the printer and orca software and be good to go. Ive had mine for about a little over a month and ive printed quite a few things with no issues except for user error such as didn’t clean the bed and didn’t put glue on the bed. This printer also comes shipped with the latest update firmware now.
You might not represent the typical beginner.
Glad to see needing glue isnt all that odd because an article said i shouldnt because of how the bed is but my shit kept flying off so i wondered if i did something wrong.. 1 thing that i did find out though was if i press leveling and set the z offset and let it home again, the nozzle has the same number but in reality the nozzle isnt EXACTLY on the same spot 🤔