Comparison Between the Anycubic Kobra 2 Max And The Elegoo Neptune 4 Max. Which One Should You Buy?
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- I recently purchased both the Anycubic Kobra 2 Max and the Elegoo Neptune 4 Max. People have been asking me “which one do I like the best” and “if you could pick one which you would you choose”. So here’s a video I put together discussing both options and ultimately the one that I think is the best out of the two options.
If you’ve watched the review and you want more information on the Linear Rail Upgrade for the Elegoo Neptune 4 Max, here is the link to that.
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Thank you. I've been searching TH-cam for days and this is the first honest review I've come across. You've earned my subscription. I look forward to watching the rest of your content.
Thank you for the kind words. 🙏
Thanks for the review... I am picking up an Anycubic Kobra 2 Max today
Hello, thank you for your comparison. I was looking at the big sling beds and you answered a lot of questions for me. I really enjoyed your vid and I hope you continue to contribute to the community by making more vids! Take care :)
Glad it was helpful! 🙏
Never found such an honest and straight to the point 3D print channel. I've worked with 3D printers including the... Ender 3 Neo (we do not talk about that monstrosity), and I've been looking to buy a large format printer for large 3D print projects such as guitars. I could not find a single channel that was both honest and provided long term results for these printers. I also hate youtubers who don't get straight to the point so they can maintain viewership and get mid-roll ads. You deserve far more subscribers and I can't express how thankful I am that you make your videos. I can pre-troubleshoot my 3D printer before I even buy it thanks to you, without having to piece together obscure reddit posts and forums where people who shouldn't be using these machines complain when they stop working.
Thank you for the kind words. I started making videos to try and help people with issues I had when I first started 3D printing. I remember how hard it was to find help and after getting these printers I noticed a lot of people in different groups asking questions that I had the answers to from learning the hard way. I’m glad they are helping.
this video is exactly the one i m looking for, thanks man
Glad I could help!
Thx for the review😊
Awesome review, thanks for helping me make a decision.
Glad I could help!
I notice your Anycubic Spool holder is same as my Vyper.The HUGE difference in the Reel Hole & the holder drove me nuts! Found solution on Thingiverse to center the wheel so it actually rolls as it should. Great Video !
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Thanks for the video, i enjoyed how u explained stuff. Thumbs up for you to resolving problems and such! Truely dont understand why elegoo didnt went with linear metal rails. Started three months ago with a elegoo Neptune 4 pro and having good results with the elegoo filament, but also some failes ofc. Was hesitating to buy a Neptune 4 max, but your video conviced me. Would love to see a comparrison between the two with the same stl and start. Keep them vids coming, much apriciated!
I have one Elegoo Neptune 4 Max with linear rails on the y axis and it’s working great. My other one snapped a stepper motor shaft but Elegoo is replacing the motor so I’m still happy with Elegoo and their service. I appreciate the kind words of encouragement.
Thanks for the video. Watched the one on maintenance.
Awaiting a Neptune 4 and have run across those linear rails. Looks like something to look into.
Just getting into this space.
As I engrave SS with a fiber laser I have a little knowledge on environment conditions that affect prints.
Also settings and tweaks take quite some time. Have learned much patience.
The 3D aspect will push me. 2D CAD is easy.
This 3D stuff will take the winter. Good, get to stay warm.
Great videos.
Cheers.
Yes, subscribed.
Thanks for watching! I’m working on another more in-depth maintenance video.
Thank you for a really good ans honest review and I appreciate the knowledge ..keep it up and I look forward to the rail conversion on the eleego .
yep. rail is a true upgrade
Thanks for your input !! I just ordered a kobra 2 plus !! 😀
Hope you enjoy it!
@@Extreme4x4Dude Omg now the A1 comes out i dont even know what to do 😵💫😵
@@lixnnibblez3193 the A1 is only 256*256*256 mm³ Build Volume. That’s an easy pass for me. 300x300x400mm is my minimum requirement mainly because I want to print helmets and armor.
@@Extreme4x4Dude True !! I really only want to do a few larger items and would mainly bne doing smaller things i imagine. But I do want to try to make a few helmets just for fun as well 😀
yeah, you can't compare those. Kobra 2 Max is in a league of its own with build plate size. Might be behind on tech yes, but for the price point its hard to ignore.@@lixnnibblez3193
Thanks a lot for this useful and cool vidéo.
I'm about to buy a Neptune 4 plus and this help me. So, thanks again. Have a nice end of year. Olivier.
its a good thing Plus has linear rails unlike the rest of Neptune 4 series
Put nylon bushings on the Elegoo and then tighten the bed down and snuggly. You won’t have those problems anymore with the bed. It works great!
*Have you used both ? which one do you recommend ?*
The Neptune 3 Max all the way!
@@Blackwidow-xy9ve wait not 4
I like 3 better easier to get parts. Parts are cheaper and I’m not in a rush to print, but 4’s also a good one too.
@@Blackwidow-xy9ve got it . thanks for your response.
Thanks, real info that I need 😮
Happy to help!
Great review thanks :)
I do have an X1 Carbon but am really wanting a bigger bed (wouldn't 500x500mm be nice!)
I just might grab the Kobra 2 Max until the OrangeStorm is out OR if Bambu comes out with a large format!
Thanks again
If BambuLab’s comes out with a big build volume printer than I’ll be getting one as well. Lol
Amazing video! I won the kobra 2 max, so this video is really nice.
Exactly! Glad it was helpful.
Thanks for a review of these two side by side and your experience with them. Also nice to see you using them for your business. I considered greatly which of these two to purchase as I'm also needing to do bigger prints for a business. They certainly each have pros and cons, and I hadn't owned either company before. I went for the Elegoo 4 max and am still testing and tuning it right now. It does produce excellent quality and I'm pleased with it - though I too don't like having to manually level the bed. Honestly I'm surprised that they still have that, everyone else is moving to true auto leveling for these next generation printers...why did they keep that?? But direct drive extruder's I find are far better than bowden tube extruders. Your review inspired me that I may have to get a anycubic max 2 to see how it does. Thanks and all the best on your armor making!
I’m glad it helped. I’ve been looking to expand my little print farm recently and I decided on another Elegoo. It was a really tough decision though. Like you said they both have their pros and cons. In the end I think I might be able to mod the Elegoo to be the best of both where the Anycubic seems to have cons that I can’t fix/mod. At least not yet anyway. I still really love my Anycubic though. It’s had less issues and prints faster. I’m working on a bed mod for the Elegoo and will upgrade to linear rails soon so it might end up to be my fast one after that.
@@Extreme4x4Dude I would definitely be interested to know what and how you upgrade your elegoo printers, I'm sure I'm not the only one too. Some video content for you to make! *edit, I see you have some of these videos out already actually :) I'm currently trying to get over the hurdle of the nozzle dragging... It will be great when some firmware updates can assist with this. All the best to you!
Thanks for this helpful videos! I´m spanish and my english is the worst of the planet, but you explain issues so good. Thank you again!
Happy to help! 🙏
Nice video! I would love to see Bambu come out with a large size model printer like these big boys. Maybe someday soon we'll see one? I know a lot of people are asking Bambu to make one.
That would be cool! I would buy one if they did. I’m supposed to receive my order for two Qidi Tech X-Max 3’d tomorrow. They’re basically large build volume CoreXY printers so I’ll be posting a review once I have them all setup and dialed in. They came highly recommended buy some friends that have both a BambuLabs printer and the Qidi Tech X-Max 3. I need the large build volume so I took a chance and rolled the dice.
To avoid bed nubs going loose when vibrating, use a piece of tape to hold it in place.
I really wish a company had a printer that were a hybrid of these two, specifically linear rails/SG15 bearings riding on linear motion shafts, without having it's hardware/software locked down as the kobra 2 max is. The fact that you cannot use the kobra 2 max with octoprint is a dealbreaker for me, since I've been used to using it with my previous and current printers.
There are options out there that fulfill that requirement but they cost significantly more than either of these two, and there isn't a reason an option priced between the anycubic and elegoo couldn't exist.
We have 8 Kobra 2 Max in my company and they're fantastic for the price. Printing speed and quality is great and it handles most basic materials without issues.
The main problem is the placement of the spool holder.
I relocated my spool holder to the top and it’s working great so far.
большое спасибо за проделанную вами работу. она очень помогла мне, окончательно понять нюансы которые я не мог осмыслить, сверяя технические характеристики и пытаясь вычленить зерно истины из других обзоров этих принтеров но сделанных по отдельности. удачи в вашем творчестве и качественной печати.
Thanks for the very cool video and sharing your knowledge it’s really appreciate it. In the future if you could possibly say the name of the printer when you’re talking about its pluses and minuses because honestly sometimes these videos I can’t watch them while I’m driving and I like to listen to the information but otherwise great video and please keep sharing the wonderful information thank you
Great suggestion! Thank you! 🙏
Great review if I need a bigger printer I know the facts . Hmm my first assumption was right on first time buyer on any cubic. 😎👍🏻
Glad it was helpful! 👍
I've had my N4 Plus for a month now, and it's been great. That guide rail upgrade would be nice, but for a total of nearly $300 for the entire kit, when I paid $350 for the printer... Don't know if that's really worth it. I would like a bigger format printer. Maybe that OrangeStorm Giga Elegoo is working on. I could make an entire car fender out of that! lol It is awesome and amazing how quickly things are progressing in the 3D printing field.
That’s been my hesitation as well. I want to upgrade to linear rails but don’t really have the funds for that right now. Maybe down the road. Hopefully before the POM wheels need to be replaced which from the posts I’ve been seeing doesn’t take long for them to wear out.
I also have N4P and real linear rails would be nice but not for the price of a second printer. I'm not convinced by this system of metal rods and wheels. Regarding high speeds, when we switch to 0.6mm or 0.8mm movement speeds will probably go down due to limits of extruder. My printer is not going 24/7 so it is less of a problem for me.
There are advantages to both systems linear rails advantage is less maintenance for the wheel it is vibration dampening your motion system is basically the same old machine or new there is only one true difference in the motion systems and that is belts versus screws as belts are faster and more accurate...
The speed and accuracy on these printers is obtained through flow rate, pressure advanced compensation, and resonant frequency compensation (AKA vibration)... The changes(Extruder gear ratio heat chamber size accelerometer and processing speed)).
Marlin versus klipper is basically microcontroller versus processor and its speed.
Whelp im sold. I had an anycubic mega S and was going to get a neptune 4 but I'm sticking now with good ol anycubic kobra 2 pro
Just ordered first 3d printer ... Ordered the Kobra 2 Max From Anycubic 2 days ago ... can't wait :D
Nice video, I've been searching for something to sway me on either one. A lot of people say the all metal heatbreak is better on the neptune? What do you think?
In regards with your vibration problem. I have bought and found out that there is such a thing as a vibration block for your washers and dryers. And it works excellent.
Bought It on Amazon. Not very expensive either.
I use it on my.Elegoo Neptune 4 max
I have them and I stopped using them. Maybe I print to fast or maybe my acceleration and jerk setting are to high but they didn’t help me. I’m testing something else now. If it works I’ll make a video about it.
A great video! new subscriber here... Hello from the UK
Thank you and welcome. 👋
I got the neptune 4 max.im not gonna bash on any other printer.i love it and just got the jupiter se yesterday. As far as movements.i ended up just mounting my table to the wall with elbows.
I did the same thing. Bolted that work bench to the wall and even the above cabinet.
I got a smoking deal on my Neptune 4 Max, so I’m glad to hear it’s not terribly worse than the anycubic
It’s a great machine. I don’t regret getting it.
One important advantage the Anycubic has over the Elegoo is the automatic Z offset calibration. Some people might not care about that, but I've always had issues with the Z adjustment screws loosening over time, and it is such a pain to readjust them. I basically only get a few good prints before there is a noticeable issue with the first layer which quickly worsens until bed adhesion becomes an issue. Enabling mesh bed leveling in Marlin did not help much but the 3D mesh topology chart in OctoPrint at least gives me a clear indicator when it's getting bad. I got so tired of dealing with that on my current printer that I'm looking at upgrading and the Anycubic Kobra 2 Plus seems like the perfect thing. The Max is too big to fit where I have my 3D printer, and I'm not sure I would have any use for the huge bed, but the Plus seems big enough to handle just about anything.
Apart from that, it seems like there are more frequent issues with the Elegoo. Almost every review I've seen has experienced the blob of death and had to have the entire hotend assembly replaced. There are also many complaints on Reddit about this. It seems like the hardware is very similar between the two and the issues with the Elegoo are more software related, so they could be fixed with updates, but it still makes me wary of buying it right now.
Also, the Elegoo seems to be louder, which is to be expected considering it has multiple part cooling fans, but as far as I can tell those extra fans don't seem to be doing anything for print quality, so it seems to just be added noise for no benefit. Fans blowing on the parts of the build that aren't currently being printed on seems unnecessary in any case.
The built in lights on the Elegoo are nice though. Wish the Anycubic had that.
I have 3 Elegoo machines now, but prior to purchasing my first i bombarded Elegoo with question and they answered every one of them, which is a far cry from Creality and the likes. With the Neptunes please remember there is the Neptune 4 with no Linear rails and a Neptune 4 Pro with Linear rails, the Neptune 4 Plus and Max are not Pro models but they maybe the next ones to come out ?
Elegoo is the best at customer service.
Thanks for your review. Have you heard of any other affordable large 3d printers coming out in the near future? I have a Sovol SV06 and while it's been great, I would like to be able to do larger prints and maybe step up the speed a little.
How large of printer volume are you looking for?
@@Extreme4x4Dude Looking to do helmets, etc, so I probably don't want to be much, if any, smaller than the size of the Kobra 2 Max.
I had to place my Maxs on cement pavers they dont budge. The fact the elegoo has the manual bed level is what won me over. I got a few anycubic and the beds are warped, autolevel is just fine and all but the flat face is still warped when you pull it off.
I dont update firmware if the machine is pumping out parts.
Take this guy's advice with a grain. MERLIN FIRMWARE😅
Since this video I have also used cement pavers under my printers. It seems to help I think. I ended up swapping out my bed knobs for locking nuts. It was a bitch to manually level the first time but I haven’t had to manually level the bed since and it been a couple months. The linear rails upgrade made a huge difference as well. Posting a video about it soon.
Great honest Review,,,,, I have been researching 3D Printers for about three weeks, checked out all the top models, and I am leaning heavy towards the Kobra because of it's Build plate size and Low price.. Though every review that I've seen has the negative comment on it's closed software format, not allowing other outside programs to interface with it.... Should this be a deal breaker , and will that limit designs and future expansion of use.... Thanks for any feedback,,,, Alex
I’m glad you liked the review. I still run both printers nonstop so they’re both great printers. I’ve had to repair both multiple times already so they aren’t without their faults either way you go. But to answer your question plainly, yes I believe the lack of access to the user interface on the Anycubic is a major drawback and has kept me from buying another one. There is a lot you can learn about klipper and how these machines work from the backend and mods you can do to improve your experience but if the machine is locked up and only the manufacturer has the key, well you’re kind of at their mercy. That being said if you don’t think you’ll dive that deep into 3D printing than the Anycubic works good. Some of the manufacturers features are pretty cool. Like the App! I don’t use it much for my type of printing but it’s a cool feature.
@@Extreme4x4Dude Thanks for taking the time to answer my question , I really appreciate that... I'll look into what you talked about,, and also do more research on other printers, as well as the Elegoo Neptune 3 & 4 Max, they seem robust as well....I'd like to get a printer that has a large enough build plate that will accommodate three to four prints at one time, that is my goal at this time, not really super large single prints.... Thanks again.....
Hey, thanks for the great video. I only just found your channel. What kind of PLA are you running? Anycubic advertises its High speed PLA for the Kobra 2 Max, so I wanted to ask if you have any experience with that kind of filament. Maybe you could make a video out of it (or link it if you already did one). Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thank you. Hopefully the video helps. I started making a filament video but decided I wanted to redo it. I use Sunlu or Jayo Meta PLA or Elegoo PLA Pro. Those are my go-to PLA’s. They’re strong and print nicely at fast speeds. I had mid print layer separation with Silk PLA so I don’t print fast with that anymore.
I've been printing for about 9 years. Started with an Anet A8 and went to Ender 3 pro to a Creality CR10s. I just picked up my kobra 2 max, and it's so much bigger than my CR10s 2hich was already fairly large. Any recommendations on support settings? All these years, and i still suck with those settings, and the supports never come off. This printer is very nice once you dial it in. Great video!
Thanks for the Video, I've got a N4M and its working great. Any tips with working with petg on the max?
Actually one of my buddy’s has a 4 Max and prints PETG. I’ll ask him for some tips. I know he’s struggled with it but I believe he finally got it working good.
Great Video! I have the Kobra Neo and I love Anycubic. I will be getting the Kobra 2 Max at some point but I am not in a hurry at this time.
Thanks
Thanks for making this vid, i was wondering if you tested the max flow rate of the Kobra 2 max? Im planning on printing some big structural parts with a .6mm or .8mm nozzle so i will be limited by the hot end and the extruder i think.
I haven’t yet but I do want to swap out my nozzles to .6mm as well.
Nice work Bro, did you replace factory nozzle ? Did you use 0.6, 0.8 or 1.0 mm nozzle on those printers ?
I have new nozzles for both printers. I will eventually swap the .4’s out for .6 or maybe even .8’s. I liked using .8 nozzles in the past.
Great video! I picked up the Neptune 4 Max a couple weeks ago. Mainly due to price as this is my first one.
So far, I've had great luck! Only issue is loud squeking coming from the wheels, adjusting belt tension has helped a bit but ive lowered my travel speed at 250 mm/s which has eliminated any squeaks.
Have you had any issues with the wheels squeaking at higher speeds?
Not really but I also lubed my POM wheels. They might stop squeaking once they get worn in a little more. 🤔
Any recommendations for the type of lube for the pom wheels? Appreciate the fast response!
I’m no expert but I ordered this. amzn.to/3THlVOR
@@Extreme4x4Dude great! Thanks again. Appreciate the help.
Super thanks for the great video. I'm very beginner of FDM and thinking of these two printer, i have nothing knowledge of FDM printing. Can you recommend with one is most suitable for me?
I think the Anycubic Kobra 2 Max is a little more user friendly right out of the box than the Elegoo Neptune 4 Max but Anycubic is not known for having the best customer service.
Great video do you sell helmets at all and armour pieces. I have a small printer and looking for mandalorian armour and helmet
I do sell armor. I’m on Etsy as OuterRimArmorer. outerrimarmorer.etsy.com
Hey brother. Do you have an OrcaSlicer profile for the nycubic Kobra 2 Max? I am not sure if it is runnin g klipper or marlin gcode.
I’ve been using the PrusaSlicer profile that Anycubic provides on their website. I’ve had good success with it so I haven’t tried to convert it to Orca yet.
Hello...very good stuff. I have a Neptune 4 Plus and it's giving me starnge problem. Whenever I start printer after the printer is cooled down I get perfect first layer all over the bed. Then if I try to print again the Z offset shifts up even if I am touching nothing and printing the same print using print again option that pop ups after the print is finished. i have to wait few minutes for printer to cool down and then again everything is fine for first print. Please let me know if you have any suggestion. Elegoo support is not able to solve my issues. Thanks.
I’ve recently been reading about heat soaking the bed before leveling. I wonder if that would help you? Let the bed heat up for like 30 minutes before you run the bed level. Then see if it will work properly after that.
So been looking at both printers. Both right now cost around $480 on their websites with holiday sales and such. I don't really see any linear rails on that Anycubic, just metal rods? But $150 or so to upgrade the Elegoo with them sounds a little rich, and I am looking into eventually having a setup with 2-3 printers with matching setups that can be used interchangeably. That said if the Anycubic goes back up to being $550+ for each when I go to get machines 2-3 then it's definitely a more expensive setup than the Neptunes. I do like the idea of not having to fiddle with stuff vibrating loose or needing to kludge together fixes.
I guess if you were looking to have a matching set of 3 of either printer which would be the ecosystem you'd be more confident in?
Seems like can't really go wrong with any direction so it's down to nuance like software and maintenance.
Thank you for the feed back. It sent me down a rabbit hole but in a good way. I now know that the Anycubic has Linear Rods and not Linear Rails. I also now know the difference between the two. Sounds like Linear Rails will produce a better quality print and at higher speeds but they are harder to install/calibrate than linear rods due to the precision requirements.
After making this video I did more research on nozzles and I agree the Anycubic nozzles are easier to get. I’m fact I ordered some in .6 and .8 sizes just to try them. Supposedly Elegoo is releasing the same nozzles this month sometime but I have yet to see anything about them actually being. I did order some through Ali but they have many shipped yet so it could just be a scam.
I originally purchased two EN4MAX’s but canceled the second order because I had heard the AK2MAX might actually be better. I bought them for my tiny little print farm and they both have done well. I haven’t officially written off the EN4MAX but I am getting tired of working on it. The big saving grace for Elegoo is their wonderful customer service/support. If something goes wrong with the EN4MAX I know they will be there to take care of me. Anycubic does not have that sort of reputation so I’m still hesitant to invest into another 3D printer by them.
All in all, I like both machines. They both print fast and with good detail. The AK2MAX has so far been less maintenance and the app is cool. I did find an app that works for the EN4MAX and if you want to dive into the Klipper rabbit hole the EN4MAX has more options to do so. For me if the EN4MAX would have come with linear rails, it would be no contest. I would invest in more of them.
@@Extreme4x4Dude Glad to have helped you learn more. Definitely a lot of nuance to learn between roller track, linear guides, linear rods, supported linear rods, linear rails, boxways, dovetails... the last two are really more for heavy duty milling machines but it all is good info to have in the back pocket. Proper bearing truck linear rails for a 3D printer at this size that are a drop-in kit would be worth the money to upgrade if you're looking for the best finish. For me, I'm looking to print just really large shaped panels to make composite molds. They're all going to get a decent amount of finish sanding and post processing work done so I'm hoping for a 0.8 nozzle and run fast. So probably the benefits of the steel rails or linear rails would be lost in the process. I use POM wheels on a CNC router to cut aluminum sheet and while that is really pushing things, it does work.
Looking a little more into it, the Elegoo reputation does seem slightly better in terms of service and support, and their ecosystem actually seems pretty open which I like: tired of dealing with proprietary and closed off ecosystems. So part of me thinks that maybe that might work better in the long run.
Also Elegoo is talking about their Giga Kickstarter, which would be even better for my needs except that being one large machine you're limited to one nozzle to use the whole volume, and so to actually print something big will probably take a lot more time in total than breaking things up into smaller panels. Plus waiting until Summer? Meh.
Thanks for the video and response. Would be good to see maybe some more side by side comparisons between the two over time.
Happy to help! Thank you for the feedback. It helps me grow my knowledge as well. I plan to make more side by side comparisons in the very near future. As for the Elegoo Giga, I believe you can add up to 4 hotends to it. It would likely be good for mass production of the same part but that might interest you more than someone in my shoes who’s producing prints that are made to order.
microcenter 400 for the kobra 2 max
@@rapter3948Bro that's actually a pretty insane price lol. Might have to try one.
What do you think about comgrow t500 ?
Have you had any layer shift issues? I am currently battling with suddent layer sshift issues. I get 1 successful print out of each 2. So 50% success rate only. Dealt with wheels, belts, input shaper, updates, KAMP, etc. Keep getting layer shift issues...
I’ve had a couple layer shifts on both printers. Once was from the nozzle dragging across the print so I fixed that with enabling z hop. I also don’t like the bed cable management. It drags across everything and could easily get hung up. Also switching to sport mode caused one shift, happened right in front of me. I heard the belts slip from the speed change.
Hello. I just bought an ANycubic Kobra2 Max and I have same issues like you with slicer software. Could you tell me where to find any good profile for it
I started using Anycubic’s PrusaSlicer profile. Here’s a link to their website. www.anycubic.com/blogs/3d-printing-guides/kobra-2-series-prusaslicer-profile
Nice review, should i get kobra 2 pro or neptune 4 pro overall?
P.s: I don't consider plus or max,because they're too big to put them into my flat :(
Honestly I haven’t reviewed those two printers in person but I did a quick internet search and they both look like they use linear rods which is great. They both have the same print speeds. The Neptune has a little bit bigger build volume which is a plus to me. I think for these two printers it would come down to customer service and Anycubic is not known for having good customer support where Elegoo is known for having great support. The only other noticeable difference between the two is the way the build plate attaches. Anycubic appears to be hard mounted to the bracket system where Elegoo is still using springs and knobs to adjust the bed level. That would be a huge difference but if you’re new to 3d printing you may not want to fuss with adjusting the bed manually. Both have auto bed leveling but the difference is Anycubic is straight auto bed leveling where the Elegoo has to be manually leveled and auto leveled. Leading to slightly more work.
@@Extreme4x4Dude Thanks for the reply,so i would probably pick kobra 2 pro, because I live in a country where the elegoo's neptune 4 pro costs $100 more than anycubic's printer (Kobra 2 series is now on sale)
On the 4max, which liner rail system?
They show several.
Your link shows the Y? (XYZ) 157$.
I’m not entirely sure yet what the difference is between the 林邓 linear guide rails and the HIWIN linear guide rails. I know they respond quickly to emails. Maybe I’ll ask them. 🤔 If I buy a set I’ll probably start with the Y axis first. I know that much.
The linear rail manufacturer got back to me. The HIWIN guide rails have significant advantages in terms of craftsmanship, precision, resistance, and noise. They have a video on their website that helps show the difference at 4 minutes and 16 seconds mark, there is a comparison of the noise during rail motion.
I just purchased Anycubic Kobra 2 Max. and it vibrates a lot I have tried 3 different tables I heard that you have the table bolted to the wall. Is that bricks you have under it? any help would be appreciated
You could try lowering the jerk and speed settings in your slicer. I have had good luck bolting benches to the wall and I now use 24x24” pavers from the garden section of Lowe’s.
I put a standard stamped metal spool holder on top of my Kobra 2 Max. There's an adapter available online for the side mount to put on top, but it's too long and the vibration is too strong. I bought the Kobra 2 over the Elegoo because of the manual wheels on the Elegoo. I hate those things. Hate hate hate. I like that I can just tell the Kobra 2 to calibrate and let it do it's thing. I did have to put a 1mm positive Z offset on it, which I don't understand since it should auto-z, but small price to pay. It's not a beginner's printer as it has to be managed, but I've done a lot of good work with it, and when you need something bigger than 256^3, what are you going to do? My QIDI 3 Max is smaller than the Kobra 2 and it's a lot more finicky. I've got a P1S with AMS and it lives up to its reputation. I've got an A1 on order. I too am eagerly awaiting a core-xy Bambu.
The z offset might be caused by the sensor. I was just reading where someone had to adjust the sensor height in order to fix his z height issues he was having.
Hi ,Does it the Anycubic Kobra 2 Max had A Power loss Recovery ,Filament Ranout Deduction ?
Yes it does. Those seem like pretty standard features these days.
Is it true the Elegoo doesn't use regular nozzles? I heard that spare parts are hard to come by
That is true. The nozzles on the Plus and Max are the same size and they are getting easier to find. I buy them from AliExpress.
If you move the filament up top on the anycubic could you get rid of the Bowden tube?
That’s my hope but there is a Bowden tube inside the hotend and the filament sensor wire will need to be extended.
Did you go a video of the kobra 2 max Prusa slicer I couldn’t find it :/
I made one but it was long and I’ve already changed some setting so I’m going to make another one and try to trim it down.
@@Extreme4x4Dude that would be amazing as I’m probly going to get one this week, still prefer it to the 4 max?
Sadly the Kobra looses me at the proprietary firmware and the lower temperature extruder, as far as I can tell there is no upgrade path to fix that. The Neptune has a 300c extruder out of the box.
Sorry, but I have to disagree about the bed being adjustable, I think its a useful feature. Sure it can be a weak link, but on my Ender 3 pro I had a solution.
Use a tiny bit of red Locktite, wiped off most of it, then worked the screws to loosen them up.
Jam nuts would also work very well.
Not sure I need one of these maxes, The pluses seem useful enough.
Regarding the pow wheels, they are sacrificial. Not sure how much wobble would be an issue, but for the price... I'm hoping Elegoo comes out with Pro models with rails.
No reason to be sorry. You have your opinion and I respect that. From my experience the Anycubic has had no bed leveling issues and it’s fixed to the bracket where both my Elegoo Neptune 4 Max’s have consistently been a problem when it comes to bed leveling and knobs loosening from the vibrations in the printers. I tried the red locktite. It made things worse and I had to cut off the screw and replace it. Blue locktite might work but I’ve switched to locking nuts instead of knobs. I’m still playing around with the setup. I’m going to try the klipper screw tilt next. It’s supposed to make adjusting the knobs easier. I think combining that with blue locktite and some locking nuts might do the trick but we shall see. The plus is definitely a good enough size for most things. I print a lot of armor and huge helmets so it’s nice to have the big build plates from the max. The Pom wheels wore out in a month from the speed and I’ve already had to replace them. My newest EN4M has linear rails upgrade and it’s working out well so far.
Hi. Anycubic Kobra 2 max is available auto saving memory? If the light goes out, it can run from the half way? Sorry for my bad english.
Are you asking if it will continue printing after loss of power? I believe so but I’ve never tested it to find out for sure.
yes yes. I want to know it. Because my country is not enough electricity. So always the light go out. :(@@Extreme4x4Dude
I’ll have to do a test and find out for you.
Would you still recommend the anycubic kobra max 2?
For a new user yes. It’s easier to use out of the box. I prefer the Elegoo especially with the Linear Rails add-on.
Isn't the part cooling fans block missing on your Elegoo? :)
Yes I took it off. I have two Elegoo Neptune 4 Max’s and I took it off both of them.
I purchased the Anycubic Kobra 2 Max nearly a week ago. Still waiting for them to actually ship it, no response from customer services, no help line phone numbers. So I don't know how good the printer is, but I haven't been able to get any updates from them, the customer service doesn't appear to exist.
They did the same thing to me except I was asking questions trying to decide if I wanted to buy one. Elegoo at least has good customer service. That’s one downside to buying from Anycubic.
There is no way the filament can be reversed back out of the PTFE tube. This is a direct drive extruder, the extruder is in the hotend itself. So there's simply nothing for the extruder to grab onto to reverse the filament since the extruder is right next to the nozzle. The filament runout sensor should stop the print while there is still some filament sticking out of the tube that you can use to pull it out. If it doesn't stop the print in time I can imagine getting the filament out would be a pain since you would have to remove the PTFE tube.
The PTFE tube is technically optional, there are mounting points on the top of the printer for a spool holder so it could be used the same way as the Elegoo. I'm not entirely sure what purpose the PTFE tube serves with a direct drive extruder, I guess it just prevents the filament from catching on anything and gives you more flexibility with the spool holder. It's certainly not necessary as it is with traditional bowden tube extruders where the tube is the only thing guiding the filament to the hotend.
Perhaps they found that having the filament mounted on the top of the printer reduced the print quality by putting the center of gravity further up, thus necessitating the PTFE tube since the extruder would have a hard time pulling the filament sideways. It would make sense. That's the only reason I can think of.
I’m not knowledgeable enough in this area and frankly I don’t care enough to argue with people online. What I do know is that in the settings, I can retract filament with the click of a button so I would assume that it can retract filament since it did when I hit the button. 🤷♂️ The small PTFE tube inside the neck of the hotend is an issue as it tends to melt. Both the Elegoo and Anycubic have it. I’m planing to replace the neck with an all metal or bi metal neck to eliminate the PTFE or Bowden Tube as others like to call it. 🤷♂️ I appreciate you watching my videos and your comments.
@@Extreme4x4Dude Not trying to argue, just trying to think of why it might not retract when it detects a filament runout. I wasn't really expecting a reply. I imagine it won't retract very far until it runs out of filament to grab onto. If the end of the filament is already halfway down the PTFE tube before the runout sensor stops the print, it seems likely it wouldn't be able to retract far enough to get the end to stick out for you to grab and pull out. But I don't have one of these so I don't know exactly how the filament runout behaves. Just trying to think about it logically based on the technology that's in the printer. In any case, I appreciate the reply.
Just one question, is the Kobra 2 still your pick? I'm trying to figure out what 3D printer I should get to upgrade my old one. I was leaning toward the Kobra 2 but I found out it lacks a web UI and is very closed down so now I'm not sure. Not being able to upload files to the printer from my slicer is a huge deal breaker. The Elegoo supports that and has a web UI as well. I might end up going for something completely different, like the Creality K1 Max, since that is Core XY, so it should shake less when printing at high speed since the bed is not moving much. But not sure.
Sorry if I thought you were looking for an argument. That seems to be the norm online these days. Lol
I go back and forth between the two printers. For newbs I still think the Anycubic is easier to use out of the box. I purchased a second Elegoo Neptune 4 Max because I wanted the UI that you mentioned and I think I can mod it to be a great printer. Better than the Anycubic. So far I was right but my old unmodded Elegoo just snapped the Y axis stepper motor shaft so maybe I’m wrong. Lol
I started looking at Qidi Tech X-Max 3 for a CoreXYZ printer. I’m not ready to drink the BambuLab koolaid. Lol
Since receiving it, my Kobra 2 Max stops/ freezes randomly. Ruining the print, wasting filament. Screen freezes and is unresponsive, only thing you can do is turn off and on again. A lot of ppl have this issue. Anyone here have that issue? If so, PLEASE how did you fix it?
I did have similar issues. So far it seems to have been resolved by switching to PrusaSlicer software using Anycubic’s provided profile. I was using cura and apparently it didn’t like the gcode or something coming from Cura. Hope this helps. It was maddening to deal with.
I like that the Kobra 2 Max uses Volcano nozzles, so there's tons of options for nozzles with features that won't be available for the Neptune 4 Max for a while, if ever.
I just ordered some .6 and .8 nozzles for the AK2MAX. Super easy to find. The EN4MAX nozzles I ordered in the same size haven’t even shipped yet so I agree. That part sucks big time.
@@Extreme4x4Dude Cht clones aren't available for the en4max yet either, but I'm sure that will eventually. Probably the same for things like nonstick coatings and gemstone tips, and it wouldn't surprise me if they're never available. Maybe I'm still in the mindset from back when all we could get was hobby grade printers that shared many parts with other kits, was open source, and if you didn't have to make parts just to get it working, you'd want to make parts to get it working well.
There are NO options for the Kobra 2 Max nozzles other than their proprietry brass ones. The volcano ones do not have a section with no thread at the top end. That section with no thread is is designed to stop filament from pouring out the top of the nozzle.
How fast do they heat the bed ?
How many watt on the bed ?
Both printers take a little while to heat up. I preheat for PLA before I start a print. It speeds up the process a lot.
Thanks for answering.
Do you have a number of minutes to eg 90° C or how many Watt they have ?@@Extreme4x4Dude
I’ll look into that for you. 😉👍
Hola saludos desde colombia cuál de las dos impresoras recomiendas que compre ?
Hello! 👋 Both are great printers. Are you new to 3d printing?
Tengo una artillery x2 y una kobra 2 neo pero quiero una más grande y no sé cuál es mejor opción
So far I’m having better experiences with the Anycubic Kobra 2 Max.
@@Extreme4x4Dude me iré entonces por la kobra 2 max
If you want to dampen the vibrations You need to mount the printer on something heavy (fixed tight and firm) 10mm iron or 50mm concrete , so that the printer gets heavy, then you can put something soft underneath to dampen the sound.
Great tips! Thank you
Could you make a shorter video summarizing what you've said? I been looking for this review all over as I want to know which 3D printer is better. Thanks!
I also subscribed! Great videos!
To summarize, I’d say it doesn’t matter they both work, they both break, they both need regular maintenance, and they both make me want to pull my hair out. At the moment my Anycubic won’t print worth a damn but a couple weeks ago both my Elegoo Neptune 4 Max’s were broke down. All in all I’d buy another Elegoo over an Anycubic but if I was new to 3d printing I’d buy a CoreXY printer like the Qidi Tech X-Max 3. 3D printing isn’t easy and it requires patience and problem solving skills when something does break and it will. No matter what anyone says, they all break eventually and they all require maintenance. Anyone that says otherwise is either lying, neglects their printer, or hasn’t had it long enough to have a valid opinion. 😆👍
lol, are those concrete blocks your printers are on? that's awesome
It was a failed attempt at dampening the vibrations. I didn’t have a large enough stone so I just took them out all together. I’m still playing around with different things to see if I can absorb some of the vibrations coming off these printers.
yes it shakes i took it off the frame on the neptune3 the vabrathions from the printer with the whait on top on the printer cause artifact on the print !!
Good to hear I’m not the only one.
Simple physics at play. One kilogram of filament cantilevered above the lower frame amplifies the inertia of the mass of the bed+model as it slams on the brakes. We drive bed slingers everyday. They are called cars.
I can use nylon to print on both printer?
I only print with PLA. I’ve never tried printing Nylon. I would think that a CoreXY printer like the Qidi Tech C-Max 3 that I just setup would be able to with the right hardened steel nozzle since it’s an enclosed 3D printer but again Ive never printed with anything other than PLA so I wouldn’t know for certain.
@@Extreme4x4Dude thanks for answering
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i wanted to go with anycubic till i tryed to get parts, i spoke with them many times on what i was needing and kept getting the run around so i went with elegoo customer service is a fail with anycubic
Anycubic support completely ignored my multiple emails before I purchased mine. They did respond within a day when I had an issue with the printer but I ended up ordering a second Elegoo Neptune 4 Max instead of another Anycubic Kobra 2 Max. At the end of the day I can mod my EN4M to make it better and they seem to have better support. I also like that I can access Klipper on the Elegoo and Anycubic you can’t. Currently the Anycubic can print faster but once I add linear rails to the Elegoo I have a feeling the Elegoo will be faster and more accurate. I’m also working on a fixed bed mod for my EN4M to make it closer to the setup that the AK2M has. If it works I’ll post a video on how to do it. Best of luck with your printer. Hit me up if you have questions or need assistance. 😉👍
Hi man,
I really need small favor from you. Can you please just make it tutorial how to use this 3-D printer PC software is this impossible like can I use the software from the PC thank you so much
Unfortunately I have a Mac but it might be close enough to be helpful?
The problem with these printers starts after some wear and tear. The rubber wheels, belts ect. not printers for the average joe.
That’s true for all 3D printers. Even the most expensive ones will break and need maintenance eventually. I cover this in another video and I’m pretty sure I mention it in this video. 3D printing is not for everyone. You must have problem solving skills and at least a small amount of patience.
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Attention, don't buy printer from Elegoo, Elegoo don't respect guarantee, problem with parts to buy, problem with production assembly, problem with software, problem with everyting.
From my experience with three different printer manufacturers, that’s the problem with all of them. It’s frustrating. Some fan boys will tell you not all manufacturers have these issues but that has not been my experience so I have a hard time believing them. You should check out my newest video on this Elegoo. It’s definitely a quality control issue. I’m currently looking at other manufacturers printers right now.
Just to let everyone know, ANYCUBIC is not a reputable company to do business with. They do not answer emails for support or as of now, to return the product. They just ignore you and hope you go away. If you are lucky enough to get a perfect product, it is probably a good deal, but, if you need any support, just forget about these guys even acting like they are a REAL company. I will sell my Kobra 2 Max for $250 now to anyone that wants it. What a waste !!!
Sorry to hear about your experience. I’ve heard horror stories about their customer service. What seems to be the problem? Maybe we can figure it out? As much as I would love to buy another one for a great price, I’d rather help you get it working if I’m able too. I’m not an expert but I’ve made a lot of mistakes and learned things the hard way.
Thanks for the reply. I just got a return shipping label to ship it back. Had several issues. One was having it make a load noise and it would start printing shifted about 20mm back. Could never get it to finish an ABS job. The Z axis seemed to jump around on me, had to constantly adjust it. The print head knocked over some models. I think I just got a bad unit. I did have a few prints that came out great with PLA, but I print with ABS or ASA most of the time. The problem is, nobody wants to hire USA support, they do everything from China and unless you have really conscientious employees, it is almost impossible to do customer service from there.
@@WindowBlazerlboth of those materials should have an enclosed chamber for print for temperature
Odd, I had an lcd fail on a resin printer and a stepper fail on a printer. They sent new ones to me within 7 days.
They do have customer service that responds.
@@WindowBlazerlhave in mind that abs is a material that y need a lot of work to find the best settings and make it perfect
POM is Delrin plastic. A fairly tough material used in things like knife handles. And of course printer wheels. It is chosen because it usually resists flat spots unlike an HDPE or Teflon.
I got tired of replacing them so I switched to linear rails. They are working amazingly well.