I’m getting rid of my Subaru and getting something that’s practical fun can do it all has cargo and can take on adventures. Youre already driving it dude
A Subaru is fun all the way until you drive a car that dose not under steer nearly as much while cornering...And they have the seating height as a park bench.
@@kzz8971 Dose not matter how often. if the moment strikes and I want to have fun, having a disgusting under steering car sucks & defeats the reason of having a supposedly "sporty" car....As well having the same seat height has a park bench is something that is all the time.
@@kzz8971 Very low compared to what? a Rav4? Must not know what very low is at all lol...If your asking me, I would pick pretty much any entry/mid level RWD based luxury car over another STI.
Don't forget he loses his AWD, (another weight addition), guess Portland doesn't get as much snow as say Detroit? (near the same distance from equator). Also, if you do mod's it's easier to get more HP out of the WRX engine than the STI engine at the lower cost side (I'm not sure if you had a near unlimited budget if it switches back).
@@trentonkingsley9422 Haven't studied the system well enough, but depending on the one, it's 1 motor for the 2 rear wheels and a small motor for each front wheel. So not a full AWD system
@@2010ngojo True AWD as we name it for an electric vehicle would require a motor per wheel. Unless it has the motor going through a transmission which can then vary the power per wheel it wouldn't be considered a true AWD vehicle in the sense of how we typically think of them.
Iv actually almost never seen woman in Miata's. It's like really rare. I usually see either teenager man in stanced Miata's or older man in stock Miata's
The stereotype was established in the 90's, back when the Miata had really soft lines and cute little pop-up headlights. A lot of them were originally bought by women. However, as time has gone by, the miata has butched up a little and the older cars have been hit hard by the aftermarket bandwagon. As time has gone by since its introduction, the reputation of the car has changed from cute little toy to 'the embodiment of cheap automotive excellence'.
I saw a woman driving a convertible and MANUAL M4 last week. I have to say, it was pretty sick seeing it when it passed our car. But returning to what you said, I'll say the same thing. I barely ever see a girl driving a Miata. I saw a woman driving a new Miata I think a few days ago, but other than that time I've only seen women driving Miatas a handful of times.
Andreana Campolo i am curious to know why you prefer the sti over the s2000. I was a blob eye sti owner over 10 years ago. I currently own a 2nd gen CTS V sedan, but might be going back into an sti hatch.
@SPECTRE lol the s2000 is worlds better than anything saab has ever made, and the engines are capable of high power, they look better, are more reliable, and are only rare to see because of high insurance and people wrapping them around trees
@SPECTRE Lol, you don't get an S2000 for straight-line speed. The S2000 is 100% a better car... and this is coming from a guy who loves and owned many Subarus. The S2000 is a Samurai sword and the STI is a baseball bat. ;)
SOLD! Thanks for chiming in folks. I promise it wasn't as fast as of a sale as it has seemed. It's been up for about a month, and the original offer did not come from a TH-cam view (surprisingly). Thanks, hope everyone's having a great day!
A BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe E86 was only manufactured between 2006-2008, only 12,819 Z4 coupes were produced worldwide. Only 2,104 3.0si Coupes were imported to North America which only 828 are with manually transmissions. It has a N52 straight 6 N/A engine.
vicente domel garcia, you are 100% correct. You can’t beat a motorcycle for fun. But the argument against a motorcycle isn’t fun, or the motorcycle itself. It’s the other idiots on the road, weather and practicality.
@@mrpedalsworth Yeah weather and other idiots. And practically depends on the person's needs and situation. Personally im gonna get a bike for the shitty city traffic that drives me insane and the prices and fuel economy
I remember years ago when I was a Ford salesman, the Probe Gt was more fun to drive than the Mustang GT and a lot of sports car shoppers agreed with me on that once I took them out in a Probe. That aluminum block V6 put your back in the seat even better than the iron block V8 and cornered miles better.
Lives in Oregon. Lol crazy, in my mind, I said Portland, me & a friend at work were talking about how she used to live in Portland and she said it was beautiful there, lots of woods & trees and that's what came to mind. Then, I saw the Craigslist ad and it had Portland on there lol
@@koastal312 Like he said, it's subjective. There's a reason why the mx-5 is the most raced car in the entire world and I'd be willing to bet one of the largest reasons is because it's "fun."
Balto D I’d say the mx5 is the most popular because it’s cheap you can find used ones for dirt cheap. It’s impossible to find a good condition sti that isn’t a complete ripoff
I currently own a 16 STI, it's great for me as a daily driver with the winters we get and fun enough. But the most fun car I personally owned was my SR20DET swapped s13. That car was around 2500lbs, had limited slip diff, about 275 whp. It was highly modified and required a lot of attention, but handled so well and always put a smile on my face. I shipped that car to Guam when I was in the military and it eventually got a lot of rust being in the tropical weather surrounded by ocean. That was a decade ago and now I own a house, have a career, and don't have time to be fixing stuff all the time, but it's my dream to get a nice imported jdm one someday.
You'll regret it, absolutely love my STi hatch. If I want something light, quick, and totally impractical I'll just ride my Triumph Speed Triple. Maybe you need a motorcycle? Way more fun than ANY car, I guarantee it.
ryanrunss Yeah, not sure what all your buds do with their STi's, maybe they launch them immediately after a cold start every morning? Mine's at 60k with absolutely no issues. Also absolutely love my interior, so damn comfortable and easy to clean.
Me too. Currently, on my 3rd NB Miata. My current and last Miata's both had turbos with 250RWHP. Another thing is a lot of people use them as weekend only cars, so you can find used low mileage cars easily, just takes time. My current Miata is 16 years old with 42K miles on it and looks like new, but is a sleeper.
I once heard it from a sales man at a Mazda dealership, that a middle aged women purchased a brand new 2016 miata for his son so he won't keep driving her s2000 lol
I've owned an S2000 and I loved that car, but I needed something more practical for my next one. I searched for a long time and found an '08 Mugen Si. It's not blindingly fast, but it's under 3,000lbs, has 4 doors and a big trunk, brilliant suspension, good gas mileage. I could have gone for something more powerful like an STI but I'm glad I didn't, I absolutely love this car!
I agree-performance is secondary in this context, if not irrelevant. Appearance, indeed, is high priority with some woman (this also applies to some men, but probably not as much).
I'm a car guy but I think the S2000/miata are girly cars. I respect them because I know they are really fun to drive (especially if they have more power than stock) but the stock design is girly in my opinion.
I've driven an MX-5. I've driven a C6 Vette. I've owned 3 Nissan Z-cars, 2 Mustang GT's, a Neon SRT-4, Sentra Spec V. My current Focus ST is as much, if not more fun than any of them. Despite weighing 3200 lbs, it still manages to have somewhat of a go-cart feel. Also very practical. I live in Central TX, where AWD isn't really needed.
This video speaks to my heart. It is the same argument I am having for my Focus ST. Good specs, decent car, it simply isn't what I am passionate about! I loved my S2000, I love my Miatas, and i realized that ST was just too heavy!
I daily drove an NA Miata for 7 years before getting my '13 WRX hatch. You're absolutely right about the Miata being more fun to drive. I couldn't go back to it as an only car though, I love the practicality of the WRX. Something a bit more refined like a GTi plus the ND Miata would be a pretty hard to beat combo.
when the Toyota MR-S came out everyone said "it's not poweful enough" and now people are bashing about the GT86 which is much heavier and almost as slow
Agreed. I have a BRZ and a lifted V8 4Runner. Love the light BRZ & 6-speed manual. And I love the truck for bringing friends on trips & ripping around in the snow.
You know your Sti would aslo be a lot more fun if you didn't go through corners 40mph in 6th gear at 1,500 RPM =) I do agree about Miata, S2000 and new Boxter, super fun cars - all of my favorites!
Well he is making a video, waxing poetic about the car at same time. Id rather he didn't take the corners at 5K rpm, warp 12, for both safety reasons and so we can actually hear him! Time and place....
If anyone is interested, or knows someone who might be interested, please feel free to respond to the Craigslist ad! Less than 15K miles, fantastic condition, all maintenance records, lots of dealer ad ons. Never tracked or tuned. If the link still works, the car is still available. Thanks! portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/5649960144.html
Buy a 1991-1994 VW Polo 86c 2F "Steilheck" They are very lightweight (Around 750kg) have ton of space in the back and they are really slim, they drive almost like a gokart. The most powerful ones are 113hp, but you can put a nice Audi TT engine in there, the 1.8T and push that to over 300hp. I have one myself with 54hp and it is a really fun vehicle to drive.
The STI is only heavy because it's AWD, hatchback (if u get the hatchback version) and has a 2nd-row seat. Although i love hatchbacks because you can fit a lot of stuff and actually have room in the back to fit adults, etc. Primary weight contributor is it's AWD system, and the fact that it has 3-locking differentials unlike the WRX, (more moving parts.) Btw, i agree that the STI is an improvement over an Acura Integra, unless you're broke and don't wanna pay much in maintenance. But finances aside, i'd still take a STI over any small Honda any day. Except a Honda S2000, which have been discontinued since ~2004.
Join the MR2 gang it's fun light weight handles like nothing else rear wheel drive mid engine and you can still have a your ego bourse power looks fresh (sw20) and has a good amount of storage for a small two seater only down side is there old I have one with a gen4 swap best car I have ever driven. And if you stay on top with mantince it's decently reliable never left me stranded. It's also Toyota so parts are widely available and cheap!
finally. ur understanding the true joy of car driving. lightweight,rwd,50/50 balance has been, is, and will always be the epitome of driving experience.
A brz aint slow... It needs better tires and it's just fine. Mine had full exhaust, CAI, crank pulley, a tune and it was responsive and fun to drive. Just don't have anybody else in the car tho, it really doesn't like to have 2 or more people in it
+Abdulla AlAmeri people that say it's slow obviously have never owned one... I would say 175rwhp with a 2700 weight. People just jump on the bandwagon. People tend to forget that it is not a straight line car, you totally missed the point. This thing was made for corners and track use. Try taking one to a track day and see how much fun and competitive this car is to all the modified cars there, it's scary good at what it's made for.
I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh at that. Calling boosting a car that came out in 2013 "kinda old" is just silly. Heck people still love driving cars from the 60's.
So you plan to continue own two cars. A lot of us try to buy one car that does everything. But perhaps you can you do a video on why it could be financially logical spend the same money on two or more older cars than one newer more expensive car? For all the bean counters out there. thanks for the STI video!
if you prefer small coupes/roadsters that basically requires another vehicle for commuting or traveling with family members or grocery shopping or doing off road "adventure" activities.
dude driving is all about you man, its personal and i respect that. get the car that makes you smile and can fill your needs. but i am always sad to see a sti owner walk away from their car. but i made the same decision and went with a 2015 WRX after my 2005 STI. VERY solid buy and never regret the price 24,700 and worth EVERY penny. 2.0 DIT is a GREAT motor
As a former MX-5 NC owner i fully agree with you. Man I miss that little monster. Each time I was behind the wheel I just couldn't stop smiling. Jinba Ittai is a lot of fun ! I look forward to see your next "Fun to drive " vehicle !
Id go with the legendary 2011 BMW 1M coupe. Light, RWD, fast and fun. It's a little beast, but it carries a hefty price tag being so limited. You'll probably never see them on the streets
or on budget the 08-10 135i's have the same motor. Save the money, buy the bolt ons, make more power, have more fun. You can build a really good 135i for less than half the cost of a 1m.
Jamie Cunningham but u wont be having more fun with a 135, youll just be faster. theres quite a difference with the M car, & paper stats dont show it...
I had an MX5 until the weekend, as well as my WRX. It had been lowered and given stiffer springs for even better handling, and is the best car I've ever driven on fast country roads. The problem is that most of my driving is on freeways and fast highways. And the MX5 is pretty hopeless on those. Another consideration is that, as you said, when you're in an MX5 drivers often either don't see you or just flat out decide to bully you; that just doesn't happen when you're in a WRX.
I knew for years that I wanted a WRX. It was truly my dream car. When I was old enough and had enough resources to buy a car, it was on the top of my list of cars to test drive. After testing out the WRX (along with 28 other vehicles), I chose the Fiesta ST. It has less horsepower, but is also much lighter (2720 lbs vs 3455 lbs) and is a LOT more fun to drive in my opinion. I chucked my ego to the curb and got what really felt right. It does everything I need it to in all seasons. One year later & 18K miles I have zero regrets. Good luck with whatever you go with next.
Put on a pair of decent DOT 200 Wear Rating tires on the front and AutoCross the FiestaST! You'll have a lot of fun, and it teaches you what your car can handle, and you become a really confident driver with your car! AutoCross is also cheap, usually ranges from $35-$55 an event (depending on your region and your membership status). Those cares are REALLY good around the courses. :D
Couldn't agree more. Just sold my WRX of 8 years, now Miata/S2000 in the garage. Swallow the pride, it's way worth it. Killing it at autocross with much less tires.
As far as fun vehicles go I've had a lot of different kinds over the years, and I think I've decided nothing is quite like a small-mid sized truck/suv with a 5 speed M/T. (objective opinion of course.) Able to zip around in traffic while still having decent gas mileage and utility as a daily driver. I've had a few trucks over the years but most recently I picked up a 2 door blazer and the thing is an absolute blast. Highway cruising, traffic, mud, sand, or snow the blazer doesn't care. "Blazes" through it all. Everyone has their own preferences, and after much searching I think I've finally discovered mine. Congrats on discovering yours as well. :)
I recently bought an S2000, I can confirm, it's the most fun car that I've ever owned (and I've had several boosted cars)! It's my only car, so winter is going to be sketchy at best, but it has enough room for me, and enough storage for my needs.
If you are plan owning two cars you should buy a van, pickup truck or hatchback as your daily driver. They have the properties you want, like big cargo space, seats for 5, good fuel economy, etc. Then you could buy some unpractical, nimble 2-seater, like the MX-5 or Z3 (or even Caterham) for the weekends. GL with the car search!
Old video but still interesting to watch these hatchback STIs are still super desired and hold value until today. I have a 2020 STI and absolutely love it. Saved some weight throwing on a tomei exhaust 😉
As someone who wants to get one it pisses me off how well they hold their value lol. I still see people asking close to $20k for a car that's approaching 10 years old and 100k miles... and that had an original msrp of like $25k ://
Yep, Cayman or Boxster are the best cars in the class he mentioned hands down, and I own S2000. Seeing they ruined new Cayman with that motor, used prev gen S or GTS are the best options money could buy currently.
Picked up my 2016 STI 2 months ago. Loving it. I used to drive a 2004 350z. I'm liking the technology in the 2016 but miss the excitement of the two seater. I'm keeping my STI for at least 3 more years..
Why did I have a feeling from just reading the title you were going to want a BRZ type car 🙂 love my car! I have gone through some tuff times, but seating behind the wheel and just cruising puts a smile on my face!
Let me tell you, a low powered, lightweight car sounds "fun" and possibly practical (though 2 seaters are not), but it gets old fast getting smoked by nissan altimas. Only lightweight car i'd consider is an Atom. I'd suggest looking at a RS. That right there is like the STI just kicked up quite a few notches. Most fun I've had with a car since I originally bought my Evo 8 back in the day new. Check that, "more" fun. It's a special car.
+Engineering Explained best response ever, I would rather get a subie because thats whats fun for me, and if you have more fun in a miata go for it, plus the new miata looks wonderful.
Sir, you have the freedom to do whatever you like with you property. I have no say in that. I said what I think I saw. If my comment is bothering you, I'll stop commenting and I will unsubscribe.
Fun is more important than times, I learned. I sold my 2009 STI a couple years ago and got a BRZ. I have more fun every day. I miss my STI, but I don't regret the change.
I'd love to hear your opinion on the difference in feel between the BRZ and the STI. Also, do you have any comments about poor weather handling of the BRZ? It tempts me, but I live in a snowy state. (Subaru AWD has gotten me out of more parallel-parking spots than I can count.)
+Sarin Murlidar B-but my sedan Focus and my SVT 3door Focus are damn near equal weight. But at least that SVT is pushing 250 to the ground without boost. Lol
why not get the regular imprezza instead of the crosstrek? From my understanding they are nearly identical except for the ride height and price you pay for that extra height.
I have a 2013 WRX Hatch, it's a great all around car. Since they stopped making the WRX hatch, I have no reason to sell it and update. 2015 and up might be a better engine design with the DPI and efficiency, but I just love the sound and personality of the 2.5. It was love at first drive when I got my 2005 Legacy. I hope to get a Porsche Carrera as a second project car but boy are they expensive.
I've had rear-wheel drive (various types), fast cars (various types), two-seaters (various types), front-wheel cars (various types), part-time AWD (bigger) and full-time AWD cars (various types). After decades of driving, I also decided that practicality and enjoyment were most important to me, but found that our fourth Subaru was the key: a nimble (and colourful) XV Crosstrek Limited. So, different strokes . . . hope you enjoy your next car. And, the buyer of your 2014 STI is obviously going to be extremely pleased.
+Jose Peralta both of my s2000s have been sebring silver. i prefer it to the Silverstone because it's brighter and pops harder IMO. love all the colors though, even Suzuka blue.
I actually preferred my AP2V2 over my AP1. The engine is noticeably stronger, especially after a tune, and I had it set to 8.5k redline. you don't really miss that extra 500 rpm. But regardless, ANY S2k is perfect. I've owned an '03, '05, '06, '07 and was 100% smiles every time I dropped the top. God, I miss that car.
What you are experiencing are stages of growing up and becoming an adult. I and lots of other people have went through the same process. I bought a Nissan 370z in 2009 because I was young and wanted a sports car. After owning it for 3 years, I came to realize that it is impractical but is still fun to drive. I bought a Lexus RX330 as a second vehicle for traveling needs.
Wait, this is filmed in OR? Nice. lots of good roads here. I totally get the weight thing. I traded a Focus ST for an Audi S4. The S4 has a lot more power but weighs 600lbs more. Not quite as fun in the twisties.
I bought myself a e46 1 and a half years ago. First real car I've ever owned. For the past year my enthusiasm about cars have grown sooo much. Now I am thinking of either getting a 350z or mustang v8 s197. I own cars for fun and passion. I dont really need one to work etc.
This was a great video with important information that i think a lot of car enthusiast miss out on. If you like the car and enjoy driving it thats all that matters, don't worry about what other people say that it is doesn't have enough hp or doesn't "look cool enough"
+Johnny Batz you're thinking of a g37. a 370z is pretty brutal for a daily. lol.high clutch engagement,stiff suspension, hard seats. I guess it's not as lightweight as an s2000 but I couldn't daily one.
+frankth3frizz the z33 series wasn't considered a true sports car when it debut, untill after market parts came out. It was a car for "mature men". Not saying it's not a sports car, I love the 370. Great car.
You'll definitely miss the STI at some point but as far as suggestions go how about the Subaru Crosstrek for practicality and an older Lotus Exige for the fun car?
I own a 2011 STI and a 1995 Miata. The STI is somewhat modified but the Miata has a lot of work done to it. The STI is still mostly practical for all of the reasons you listed AND it's fun to drive. The Miata is not practical at all and really not very comfortable with the suspension work that I've done but it's SO much fun that it more than makes up for it. I don't subscribe to the idea of having a "beater" car and a car that you love because, more than likely, you'll more often be driving the "beater" and not get to enjoy yourself. If you spend a lot of time driving, why not enjoy it? Thanks for making such great videos!
+Son of a Zombie TH-camrs earn almost $3 per 1000 views that don't have adblock btw. As of right now this video might have earned $819 if none of the viewers had adblock. If half of the viewers have adblock then it would be nearly $410
spot on, I was in a very similar situation a few months ago. I had a wrx for awhile but when I sold it and got the sti, the ergonomics killed my back on long boring drives for whatever reason. Sold the sti, now I have a Honda garage - a new civic for commuting and trips, and a cbr600 for fun!
Haha fair enough, that was my mentality for a long time. But the itch to try motorcycles never went away, so I figured screw it. I try to be the smartest I can about it. I started small on a 250 then got what I really wanted after practicing for a year. The risks are very real, but I'd say the vast majority of them are within the rider's control. How much protective gear you wear, what time of day you go, type of roads you go on/when you go on them, weather, your mood, training, who you ride with, bike condition, where you decide to twist the throttle a little bit more, knowing your limits and staying well within them, etc....all about self control. That and people that don't see you when they're on their cell phone as they make a left turn in front of you. They stink.
Mr Engineering Explained... You're selling your STI and thinking of a Miata... Sigh. It's like Bruce Jenner going from a world athlete to a... well... you know. ;o)
Sounds you have a personal preference! Congrats! From the sound of it it sounds like you prefer an STI over a the new Miata. Now the question is... have you lived with either car? or driven either? I have a personal preference too!! Yay! I thought I'd share. I have owned, flogged, tracked and daily driven an RX8 an RX7, an NB Miata, E36/E46 M3, 2x WRX STI's, a Boss 302 an S2k/8th gen Si and C5/C6 Z06 and I can wholeheartedly say that the 2016 ND Miata is hands down the best drivers cars out of any of these cars just short of a Lotus Elise. No its not going to beat much off the line but when you hit that start stop button and blip that throttle and really feel that power plant frame connecting every sensation into your hands, feet, and ass... and even better, you throw it into a corner and feel the double wishbones up front telling your hands feet and ass every single detail about the road you're fighting with, You might become a believer too. Go to a dealership and test drive one. You might forget to keep your butt from leaking because all the focus is going into the smile on your face. ;) Mazda really created something special for people that love the FEELING of driving rather than creating something that moves quickly. I will admit the moment I was finished test driving the ND (Which I spend a good 50 miles in) I went straight to a Jaguar dealership to get a feel of an FType S... Still can't believe I'm saying this... That Miata will ruin you. Drive one.
I was just kidding but unfortunately, I know first hand about the stigma of small cars. I used to have a BMW M Roadster and everyone used to poke fun at me. LOL. (Partially because I lifted weights a lot back then and was too huge for the car.). It was all in good fun though. But yeah, that stigma is there. I went on to drive normal M3's after that and my buddies didn't giggle anymore! :o) Now I have an STI on order. Can't wait for her to arrive!! (And now I'll probably be ridiculed for it being a 'kids car.' Gotta love the stigma.
If anything no matter what you drive someone is always going to tell you that you should have bought something else haha. As long as you are happy with sitting in that seat and starting it up everyday that is the only thing that matters!
Totally agree with everything you said in this video. Having a good 0-60 time absolutely does not necessarily equate to a car that's good to live with every day, or even a car that's fun to drive in anything other than a straight line. Personally I prefer a simple approach to motoring fun - light, normally aspirated, and with good driving dynamics. Too bad there are very few cars like this being built these days. Most modern cars just feel numb to me.
I have had the same epiphany as you, I have a 621whp Audi A4,I bought a R53 Cooper S as a daily, and just love it that much more than the A4. The 1000lbs weight difference just makes the car 10 fold more fun, even though it has a 1/3rd of the power.
A very apt analysis. I've always felt weight made a huge difference over horsepower - feels much easier to control and nimble, especially when trying to do performance-style driving at lower speeds. My previous car was a '95 Civic Si, however I sold that and got a '12 STI sport tech four years ago. I like what each car had to offer, but the weight thing drove me nuts. The car feels like a land-yacht compared to a lowered coupe with a 2000lb curb weight. Given the incredibly harsh winters here, I decided to pick up a $500 daily driver to beat on with city miles, ended up getting an '01 Legacy wagon with the 5 speed. That car isn't as powerful as the STI, but it is much lighter and regains some of that lost nimbleness. I can also attest that it handles identically to the STI when breaking traction on all four wheels in snow, so you can have some fun too. Ultimately the best way to buy enjoyable cars is with a simple two-step approach: 1. Max out the ratio of fun per dollar spent. 2. Keep it cheap enough that you don't need to worry about it.
+Engineering Explained I agree, my mother bought a pre owned f type v8 so much power and light... but for my money I would get the v6 as a daily driver save on gas and money. saw a used on for 41k
I agree with everything he's saying in this video which is why I'm going to get an e85 z4 and drop a vq35 or longitudinal 4g63 with a 2.5 stroker and smallish turbo! So excited.
Get a Boeing 747. It has a tremendous power to weight ratio. Totally smokes the STI at 35,000 ft altitude.
Better yet, if you need utility you can get an AN-124. Or ship your new car in it for $900,000 to anywhere in the world (some restrictions apply)
Its also great aerodynamically! 😂
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757 Has an even higher pw ratio ;)
The Nex Gen GE engines are super quiet and have a fuel saving of 35%
I’m getting rid of my Subaru and getting something that’s practical fun can do it all has cargo and can take on adventures. Youre already driving it dude
A Subaru is fun all the way until you drive a car that dose not under steer nearly as much while cornering...And they have the seating height as a park bench.
@@tv321123 how often do you drive that fast experiencing understeer? Probably max 20% of the time
@@kzz8971 Dose not matter how often. if the moment strikes and I want to have fun, having a disgusting under steering car sucks & defeats the reason of having a supposedly "sporty" car....As well having the same seat height has a park bench is something that is all the time.
@@tv321123 park bench seating? I can put mine very low. What car would you rather get?
@@kzz8971 Very low compared to what? a Rav4? Must not know what very low is at all lol...If your asking me, I would pick pretty much any entry/mid level RWD based luxury car over another STI.
*buys MX-5
5 Reasons Why I Miss My STI
>Sells STI due to excessive weight
>Buys Tesla
Don't forget he loses his AWD, (another weight addition), guess Portland doesn't get as much snow as say Detroit? (near the same distance from equator). Also, if you do mod's it's easier to get more HP out of the WRX engine than the STI engine at the lower cost side (I'm not sure if you had a near unlimited budget if it switches back).
@@warwolf0 Tesla is awd bro
@@trentonkingsley9422 Haven't studied the system well enough, but depending on the one, it's 1 motor for the 2 rear wheels and a small motor for each front wheel. So not a full AWD system
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All wheels are driven, so yeah awd.
@@2010ngojo True AWD as we name it for an electric vehicle would require a motor per wheel. Unless it has the motor going through a transmission which can then vary the power per wheel it wouldn't be considered a true AWD vehicle in the sense of how we typically think of them.
Iv actually almost never seen woman in Miata's. It's like really rare. I usually see either teenager man in stanced Miata's or older man in stock Miata's
Whoa it's good to see you here I watch your airsoft vids sometimes didn't know u liked cars as well
The stereotype was established in the 90's, back when the Miata had really soft lines and cute little pop-up headlights. A lot of them were originally bought by women. However, as time has gone by, the miata has butched up a little and the older cars have been hit hard by the aftermarket bandwagon. As time has gone by since its introduction, the reputation of the car has changed from cute little toy to 'the embodiment of cheap automotive excellence'.
I saw a woman driving a convertible and MANUAL M4 last week. I have to say, it was pretty sick seeing it when it passed our car. But returning to what you said, I'll say the same thing. I barely ever see a girl driving a Miata. I saw a woman driving a new Miata I think a few days ago, but other than that time I've only seen women driving Miatas a handful of times.
I still think that the NA are the nicest looking Miatas. WHY DID THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THE POPUPS!!!
skyline bridge Yup! Im planning on buying a turbo miata soon and will post videos to a car channel
I had a S2000. I am a chick. I now have an Impreza hatch wrx sti and would never go back to my s2000.
Andreana Campolo i am curious to know why you prefer the sti over the s2000. I was a blob eye sti owner over 10 years ago. I currently own a 2nd gen CTS V sedan, but might be going back into an sti hatch.
@SPECTRE lol the s2000 is worlds better than anything saab has ever made, and the engines are capable of high power, they look better, are more reliable, and are only rare to see because of high insurance and people wrapping them around trees
@SPECTRE Lol, you don't get an S2000 for straight-line speed. The S2000 is 100% a better car... and this is coming from a guy who loves and owned many Subarus. The S2000 is a Samurai sword and the STI is a baseball bat. ;)
SPECTRE You’re not very intelligent are you
Just curious if you want to race a Type R or my stage 2 2.0T Accord? Honda ya stage 2 tune has in 310 hp and 380 TQ. Cost $600 for the tuner lol
SOLD! Thanks for chiming in folks. I promise it wasn't as fast as of a sale as it has seemed. It's been up for about a month, and the original offer did not come from a TH-cam view (surprisingly). Thanks, hope everyone's having a great day!
awww so what you getting now..??
Can't wait to see what you're getting next
BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe for pure driving pleasure
what year car is that?
A BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe E86 was only manufactured between 2006-2008, only 12,819 Z4 coupes were produced worldwide. Only 2,104 3.0si Coupes were imported to North America which only 828 are with manually transmissions. It has a N52 straight 6 N/A engine.
Lightweight, rear wheel drive, 2 seaters, - a motorcycle
Did you say deathtrap? (joke - i love bikes)
Yeah get a tomahawk he'll love it. Hey it goes up to 420 mph!
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂hahahahahaha uv made my day😂😂😂
vicente domel garcia, you are 100% correct. You can’t beat a motorcycle for fun.
But the argument against a motorcycle isn’t fun, or the motorcycle itself.
It’s the other idiots on the road, weather and practicality.
@@mrpedalsworth Yeah weather and other idiots. And practically depends on the person's needs and situation. Personally im gonna get a bike for the shitty city traffic that drives me insane and the prices and fuel economy
I remember years ago when I was a Ford salesman, the Probe Gt was more fun to drive than the Mustang GT and a lot of sports car shoppers agreed with me on that once I took them out in a Probe. That aluminum block V6 put your back in the seat even better than the iron block V8 and cornered miles better.
I am watching your entire video just waiting for you to hit big foot. Where the hell do you live?
With Bigfoot, it's a secret.
Lives in Oregon. Lol crazy, in my mind, I said Portland, me & a friend at work were talking about how she used to live in Portland and she said it was beautiful there, lots of woods & trees and that's what came to mind. Then, I saw the Craigslist ad and it had Portland on there lol
I have been looking at the 2017 WRX STI. Only problem is i live in NYC and driving a stick around here SUCKS!
Get a WRX w/the CVT, you do not need all that mess from the STI
"Fun" is very subjective. I once had a 2012 MX-5 and I find my 2017 STi Limited much, much more fun to drive than my MX-5.
You're in the minority then.
@@baltod4978 nah I agree with him, rented brz, mx-5, sti and the sti is way more fun.
@@koastal312 Like he said, it's subjective. There's a reason why the mx-5 is the most raced car in the entire world and I'd be willing to bet one of the largest reasons is because it's "fun."
Balto D I’d say the mx5 is the most popular because it’s cheap you can find used ones for dirt cheap. It’s impossible to find a good condition sti that isn’t a complete ripoff
m8 u got the wrong mx-5
I currently own a 16 STI, it's great for me as a daily driver with the winters we get and fun enough. But the most fun car I personally owned was my SR20DET swapped s13. That car was around 2500lbs, had limited slip diff, about 275 whp. It was highly modified and required a lot of attention, but handled so well and always put a smile on my face. I shipped that car to Guam when I was in the military and it eventually got a lot of rust being in the tropical weather surrounded by ocean. That was a decade ago and now I own a house, have a career, and don't have time to be fixing stuff all the time, but it's my dream to get a nice imported jdm one someday.
You'll regret it, absolutely love my STi hatch. If I want something light, quick, and totally impractical I'll just ride my Triumph Speed Triple. Maybe you need a motorcycle? Way more fun than ANY car, I guarantee it.
Haha I think I know myself. I won't regret it, been thinking about this for a long time. You do you and I'll do me. :)
you won't regret it when you save 10k on an engine rebuild @ 30k miles
+Kyle Williams errybody I know with an ej25 has a built motor 😂😂. They go long before 100k sadly.
ryanrunss Yeah, not sure what all your buds do with their STi's, maybe they launch them immediately after a cold start every morning? Mine's at 60k with absolutely no issues. Also absolutely love my interior, so damn comfortable and easy to clean.
Engineering Explained That's cool man I hope you really enjoy whatever your new car is, but seriously though, get a motorcycle ;)
As a Miata driver, I'm grinning right now.
Same. My NB is waiting for a turbo, patiently.
Same here
As a sti owner, I totally understand.
Me too. Currently, on my 3rd NB Miata. My current and last Miata's both had turbos with 250RWHP. Another thing is a lot of people use them as weekend only cars, so you can find used low mileage cars easily, just takes time. My current Miata is 16 years old with 42K miles on it and looks like new, but is a sleeper.
NA owner starting my turbo build. Miata IS always the answer.
Porsche had this figured out 30 years ago, 200-230 hp and 2500 lb
jhrodriguez08 B981 GTS is the best car I've ever driven. True story.
Looks like Lorenzo didn't get to the 3 minute mark in the video lol
Don't forget Lotus. They have it figured out also
He mentioned Porsche
"Has kids 2 years later" Money is getting tight, I need something thats fun to drive and can do everything. Buys STI
Agreed with everything with the exception of an s2000 as a women's car. I don't know of any woman who has an s2000.
I once heard it from a sales man at a Mazda dealership, that a middle aged women purchased a brand new 2016 miata for his son so he won't keep driving her s2000 lol
That’s just ignorant
Go to Gainesville Florida, 5/10 s2k’s here are women owned
A second grade teacher at my Elementary School bought one brand new back in the day lol (I think she bought it in ‘01 or so).
the DOS , yes but the ones that do are keepers!
I've owned an S2000 and I loved that car, but I needed something more practical for my next one. I searched for a long time and found an '08 Mugen Si. It's not blindingly fast, but it's under 3,000lbs, has 4 doors and a big trunk, brilliant suspension, good gas mileage. I could have gone for something more powerful like an STI but I'm glad I didn't, I absolutely love this car!
I have an Acura Odyssey Twin Turbo SH- AWD. Best Can Do All scenario vehicle on the market.
you want a fun 2 seater? Buy a sport bike
Deadly, riding a bike is already dangerous enough.
The exact reason why I own an S2000 in the Blue Ridge mountains of North Carolina! Get your two seater and come run the Tail of the Dragon with me 👍
You have such an endearing, approachable tone for a novice like myself. It's comforting as someone who is trying their best to learn.
Women haven't really "figured it out", they don't buy sporty cars for the way they drive, they just buy them because they're "cute".
Too true
I agree-performance is secondary in this context, if not irrelevant. Appearance, indeed, is high priority with some woman (this also applies to some men, but probably not as much).
My sister wanted a mini cooper/gti because they're cute. Took forever to convince her not to get those trash cans.
This is the same reason men buy trucks, they're "manly". Nothing to do with their functions since they rarely get used as trucks.
I don't know any car guy who thinks an s2000 is a chick car.
The S2000 is super girly, but we are all biased towards it being manly because of the history behind the cars potential.
I think people think of small, light, convertibles as girly
We all know you you like it bro.
I'm a car guy but I think the S2000/miata are girly cars. I respect them because I know they are really fun to drive (especially if they have more power than stock) but the stock design is girly in my opinion.
It’s girly for sure
I've driven an MX-5. I've driven a C6 Vette. I've owned 3 Nissan Z-cars, 2 Mustang GT's, a Neon SRT-4, Sentra Spec V. My current Focus ST is as much, if not more fun than any of them. Despite weighing 3200 lbs, it still manages to have somewhat of a go-cart feel. Also very practical. I live in Central TX, where AWD isn't really needed.
if i'd by an STi , it would be an old sedan
This video speaks to my heart. It is the same argument I am having for my Focus ST. Good specs, decent car, it simply isn't what I am passionate about! I loved my S2000, I love my Miatas, and i realized that ST was just too heavy!
I daily drove an NA Miata for 7 years before getting my '13 WRX hatch. You're absolutely right about the Miata being more fun to drive. I couldn't go back to it as an only car though, I love the practicality of the WRX. Something a bit more refined like a GTi plus the ND Miata would be a pretty hard to beat combo.
funny i currently drive a 1993 miata and want to move to a wrx hatchback
when the Toyota MR-S came out everyone said "it's not poweful enough"
and now people are bashing about the GT86 which is much heavier and almost as slow
had a MX-5 as a daily driver, Loved it, putting it sideways on dirt roads before work at 4am... priceless.
Agreed. I have a BRZ and a lifted V8 4Runner. Love the light BRZ & 6-speed manual. And I love the truck for bringing friends on trips & ripping around in the snow.
You know your Sti would aslo be a lot more fun if you didn't go through corners 40mph in 6th gear at 1,500 RPM =)
I do agree about Miata, S2000 and new Boxter, super fun cars - all of my favorites!
Haha, the video wasn't for pleasure, it was to explain why. :)
I like this guy
If everything seems under control.., you just not going fast enough :-D
Well he is making a video, waxing poetic about the car at same time. Id rather he didn't take the corners at 5K rpm, warp 12, for both safety reasons and so we can actually hear him! Time and place....
If anyone is interested, or knows someone who might be interested, please feel free to respond to the Craigslist ad! Less than 15K miles, fantastic condition, all maintenance records, lots of dealer ad ons. Never tracked or tuned.
If the link still works, the car is still available. Thanks! portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/5649960144.html
So the acura project it's gone? :(
Have you looked at a turbo Mk2 MR2? You can pick them up for £1500 over here, and are just about the cheapest fast car out there
Buy a 1991-1994 VW Polo 86c 2F "Steilheck"
They are very lightweight (Around 750kg) have ton of space in the back and they are really slim, they drive almost like a gokart.
The most powerful ones are 113hp, but you can put a nice Audi TT engine in there, the 1.8T and push that to over 300hp.
I have one myself with 54hp and it is a really fun vehicle to drive.
One of the rare honest for listing from an STI owner. A lot of other ads say "STI for sale never driven hard or raced. Always garage kept....."
try Mazda CX3. its light, AWD, & drivers car.
The STI is only heavy because it's AWD, hatchback (if u get the hatchback version) and has a 2nd-row seat. Although i love hatchbacks because you can fit a lot of stuff and actually have room in the back to fit adults, etc.
Primary weight contributor is it's AWD system, and the fact that it has 3-locking differentials unlike the WRX, (more moving parts.)
Btw, i agree that the STI is an improvement over an Acura Integra, unless you're broke and don't wanna pay much in maintenance. But finances aside, i'd still take a STI over any small Honda any day. Except a Honda S2000, which have been discontinued since ~2004.
RIP - project Integra :'(
it never had a chance
True.....I wish someone big like him would continue the integra series....
Man hopefully someone who buys it continues it
+What Honku or you could swing by my channel and check out my project integra videos :)
Wait why did he stop the series ?
Join the MR2 gang it's fun light weight handles like nothing else rear wheel drive mid engine and you can still have a your ego bourse power looks fresh (sw20) and has a good amount of storage for a small two seater only down side is there old I have one with a gen4 swap best car I have ever driven. And if you stay on top with mantince it's decently reliable never left me stranded. It's also Toyota so parts are widely available and cheap!
Horse *^
finally. ur understanding the true joy of car driving.
lightweight,rwd,50/50 balance has been, is, and will always be the epitome of driving experience.
That road is stunning.
Get a lifted BRZ. Fun, ground clearance, two seats, good MPG, still a Subaru.
Except that, it's very, very slow.
Abdulla AlAmeri Supercharger or turbo; just watch for heat fluctuation.
A brz aint slow... It needs better tires and it's just fine. Mine had full exhaust, CAI, crank pulley, a tune and it was responsive and fun to drive. Just don't have anybody else in the car tho, it really doesn't like to have 2 or more people in it
n0ledge I'd go with the MK7 GTI to be honest. good power stock, and a basic ecu tune gets you at least +60HP.
+Abdulla AlAmeri people that say it's slow obviously have never owned one... I would say 175rwhp with a 2700 weight. People just jump on the bandwagon. People tend to forget that it is not a straight line car, you totally missed the point. This thing was made for corners and track use. Try taking one to a track day and see how much fun and competitive this car is to all the modified cars there, it's scary good at what it's made for.
I went the same way you did. I have a 2016 Forester XT and a 07 BMW Z4 M roadster. Best of both worlds
Buy a BRZ man. It'd be awsome to see you modifiy the BRZ and making videos about the modifications.
I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh at that. Calling boosting a car that came out in 2013 "kinda old" is just silly. Heck people still love driving cars from the 60's.
So you plan to continue own two cars. A lot of us try to buy one car that does everything. But perhaps you can you do a video on why it could be financially logical spend the same money on two or more older cars than one newer more expensive car? For all the bean counters out there. thanks for the STI video!
Financially, you're best off buying one used vehicle that does everything you need.
+Engineering Explained indeed
if you prefer small coupes/roadsters that basically requires another vehicle for commuting or traveling with family members or grocery shopping or doing off road "adventure" activities.
Have you considered a Suzuki? I bought an SX4 a year ago, and have been loving it. Small, light, awd. Simple. Crazy fun in the snow.
dude driving is all about you man, its personal and i respect that. get the car that makes you smile and can fill your needs. but i am always sad to see a sti owner walk away from their car. but i made the same decision and went with a 2015 WRX after my 2005 STI. VERY solid buy and never regret the price 24,700 and worth EVERY penny. 2.0 DIT is a GREAT motor
Get the MX-5! We had an absolute blast driving it! Good luck with your car search
Hi Parker or Eddie! :D
Since he are having some TH-cam car royalty here already, can we also get an opinion from carthrottle??? Another Phill?
Mx5 all the way. But get the NA!
It'll be nice, but its a very hard car to live with. As a weekend car its great, but for everything else its just not practical.
I had a 2004 Turbo addition. Was just as you said.
you should get the new focus rs
Anyone Agree ?
Both Matt Farah and Shmee agree with you bro!
He wants less weight, not more.
+Ghassan Al Harthy and rwd
It's practically the same car he's selling, 4 cylinder turbo, all wheel drive, hatchback weighs around 3400-3500 lbs.
It's pretty much a slightly faster slightly less quality version of the car he already has
As a former MX-5 NC owner i fully agree with you.
Man I miss that little monster.
Each time I was behind the wheel I just couldn't stop smiling. Jinba Ittai is a lot of fun !
I look forward to see your next "Fun to drive " vehicle !
The Brian Cox of cars. great videos keep up the good work.
Id go with the legendary 2011 BMW 1M coupe. Light, RWD, fast and fun. It's a little beast, but it carries a hefty price tag being so limited. You'll probably never see them on the streets
+1, that's one of the most perfect little cars ever built.
Aren't those like 3300 lbs? Not super heavy, but as heavy as the STI.
+putraceface you're right but it makes up for it
or on budget the 08-10 135i's have the same motor. Save the money, buy the bolt ons, make more power, have more fun. You can build a really good 135i for less than half the cost of a 1m.
Jamie Cunningham but u wont be having more fun with a 135, youll just be faster. theres quite a difference with the M car, & paper stats dont show it...
I had an MX5 until the weekend, as well as my WRX. It had been lowered and given stiffer springs for even better handling, and is the best car I've ever driven on fast country roads. The problem is that most of my driving is on freeways and fast highways. And the MX5 is pretty hopeless on those. Another consideration is that, as you said, when you're in an MX5 drivers often either don't see you or just flat out decide to bully you; that just doesn't happen when you're in a WRX.
I knew for years that I wanted a WRX. It was truly my dream car. When I was old enough and had enough resources to buy a car, it was on the top of my list of cars to test drive. After testing out the WRX (along with 28 other vehicles), I chose the Fiesta ST. It has less horsepower, but is also much lighter (2720 lbs vs 3455 lbs) and is a LOT more fun to drive in my opinion. I chucked my ego to the curb and got what really felt right. It does everything I need it to in all seasons. One year later & 18K miles I have zero regrets. Good luck with whatever you go with next.
That's awesome, glad you love it! People seem to really dig those!
Put on a pair of decent DOT 200 Wear Rating tires on the front and AutoCross the FiestaST! You'll have a lot of fun, and it teaches you what your car can handle, and you become a really confident driver with your car!
AutoCross is also cheap, usually ranges from $35-$55 an event (depending on your region and your membership status). Those cares are REALLY good around the courses. :D
This comment is hilarious as a fiesta st owner looking towards the wrx for a new daily (pa winters) lol
so he's selling the coolest subaru ever to get a rwd 2 seater. whats up?
my cousin has the stinkeye hatch impreza, it's not wrx nor sti, just impreza base model. you can tune it to be as fun and fast as sti
My beautiful and amazing Princess agreed, although Subaru’s mpreza wrx sti models from 2009+ look really neat
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess haha no you can't. that platform just isn't made for it.
Coolest Subaru ever is a 22b from 1998 though
I have both an RX8 and a STI Hatch. I prefer driving my RX8. Lighter, more comfortable, more pleasant for street-use.
Couldn't agree more. Just sold my WRX of 8 years, now Miata/S2000 in the garage. Swallow the pride, it's way worth it. Killing it at autocross with much less tires.
I've only ever seen men in the newer mx5's. Older men at that.
Wisdom comes with age... Sometimes.
JC_mcsR53 Yea, EE was claiming women drive them.
Camhin1 ooooooh. Youre saying you haven't seen women drive the new MX-5s? Me neither 🤔
JC_mcsR53 yep :)
Was it NB? I have one myself (Bilsteins swaped with Ohlins) but I find it way too heavy and lacking chassis rigidity.
I feel like a BRZ suits your style. Maybe a Focus RS, or an M2 if you have the money.
XV or XV hybrid for DD/adventures. 2018 BRZ (with turbo hopefully) for fun days :).
For us single car owners a WRX/STI is still the best all arounder IMO.
+FukU2222 the wrx has the stis 6 speed...
M2 and RS, but espically the M2 are heavy.
+FukU2222 legacy costs way more than a wrx and forester is boring as phuck to drive
As far as fun vehicles go I've had a lot of different kinds over the years, and I think I've decided nothing is quite like a small-mid sized truck/suv with a 5 speed M/T. (objective opinion of course.) Able to zip around in traffic while still having decent gas mileage and utility as a daily driver. I've had a few trucks over the years but most recently I picked up a 2 door blazer and the thing is an absolute blast. Highway cruising, traffic, mud, sand, or snow the blazer doesn't care. "Blazes" through it all. Everyone has their own preferences, and after much searching I think I've finally discovered mine. Congrats on discovering yours as well. :)
I recently bought an S2000, I can confirm, it's the most fun car that I've ever owned (and I've had several boosted cars)! It's my only car, so winter is going to be sketchy at best, but it has enough room for me, and enough storage for my needs.
I'm young and not rich but I dream of having a daily driver SUV and like a Camaro or a Vette that's a decade old.
Kyle Erickson dream bigger
Brian Ruiz wrong aim low so you impress yourself and others
If you are plan owning two cars you should buy a van, pickup truck or hatchback as your daily driver. They have the properties you want, like big cargo space, seats for 5, good fuel economy, etc. Then you could buy some unpractical, nimble 2-seater, like the MX-5 or Z3 (or even Caterham) for the weekends. GL with the car search!
Old video but still interesting to watch these hatchback STIs are still super desired and hold value until today. I have a 2020 STI and absolutely love it. Saved some weight throwing on a tomei exhaust 😉
As someone who wants to get one it pisses me off how well they hold their value lol. I still see people asking close to $20k for a car that's approaching 10 years old and 100k miles... and that had an original msrp of like $25k ://
time to buy a used Porsche Cayman
Yep, Cayman or Boxster are the best cars in the class he mentioned hands down, and I own S2000. Seeing they ruined new Cayman with that motor, used prev gen S or GTS are the best options money could buy currently.
+serg472 that Cayman looks soooooo much fun to drive!
+Mark Cayton adding a turbo adds more moving mechanical parts =more complex =more parts to break down & more expensive to fix in the future
+Mark Cayton more to the point though it's 4 cylinder. Not as fun an engine and sounds like shite in my opinion
bmw 1 series is faster and a lot cheaper. Has a functional back seat and trunk. And modding potential is insane.
Picked up my 2016 STI 2 months ago. Loving it. I used to drive a 2004 350z. I'm liking the technology in the 2016 but miss the excitement of the two seater.
I'm keeping my STI for at least 3 more years..
Notice how he's always mentioning the mx-5 first when he starts listing cars.
I bet he's gonna get one.
He did
He should have kept the sti and did suspension mods
Jason, why not keep the STI as your practical car and get yourself a 2-seater
DELANO DEJONGH Then if it is the best why do so many people sell them ?
Then why do so many buy them after they are sold?
Adam Brcic All used cars sell sooner or later.
All bought cars were sold sooner or later
jackedfu But not all cars guzzle gas like this heavy beastie.
Why did I have a feeling from just reading the title you were going to want a BRZ type car 🙂 love my car! I have gone through some tuff times, but seating behind the wheel and just cruising puts a smile on my face!
Let me tell you, a low powered, lightweight car sounds "fun" and possibly practical (though 2 seaters are not), but it gets old fast getting smoked by nissan altimas. Only lightweight car i'd consider is an Atom. I'd suggest looking at a RS. That right there is like the STI just kicked up quite a few notches. Most fun I've had with a car since I originally bought my Evo 8 back in the day new. Check that, "more" fun. It's a special car.
+jrzez I don't mind getting beat at a stoplight.
you can't beat everything. someone can ALWAYS beat you. plus nissan altimas have 3.8's in them.
where are you located? the scenery in this video is so beautiful.
+Engineering Explained best response ever, I would rather get a subie because thats whats fun for me, and if you have more fun in a miata go for it, plus the new miata looks wonderful.
Engineering Explained That's ok. All I'm saying is you should check out the RS. It's not just made for stop lights. It's handling is it's real deal.
THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.
This isn't about never being satisfied, it's about making an uninformed decision. Also, please don't use all caps.
Sir, you have the freedom to do whatever you like with you property. I have no say in that. I said what I think I saw. If my comment is bothering you, I'll stop commenting and I will unsubscribe.
CALL THE COPS
Fun is more important than times, I learned. I sold my 2009 STI a couple years ago and got a BRZ. I have more fun every day. I miss my STI, but I don't regret the change.
I'd love to hear your opinion on the difference in feel between the BRZ and the STI. Also, do you have any comments about poor weather handling of the BRZ? It tempts me, but I live in a snowy state. (Subaru AWD has gotten me out of more parallel-parking spots than I can count.)
what i would say is get yourself a cheaper used sedan and have it customized to your liking.
Sedan and light don't go in the same sentence
Sarin Murlidar when you want 1 car for practical and 1 car for fun...
+Sarin Murlidar for the g35 the sedan is lighter than the coupe. *kermit tea meme
+Sarin Murlidar B-but my sedan Focus and my SVT 3door Focus are damn near equal weight. But at least that SVT is pushing 250 to the ground without boost. Lol
Fiesta.
Crostrek XV for adventures and mx-5 for fun!
couldn't have said is better myself!
Replace the mx5 with a 2018 BRZ with a turbo (hopefully)... But I agree about the crosstrek.
agreed, only good suggestion here.
I was about to say the exact same thing :)
why not get the regular imprezza instead of the crosstrek? From my understanding they are nearly identical except for the ride height and price you pay for that extra height.
I have a 2013 WRX Hatch, it's a great all around car. Since they stopped making the WRX hatch, I have no reason to sell it and update. 2015 and up might be a better engine design with the DPI and efficiency, but I just love the sound and personality of the 2.5. It was love at first drive when I got my 2005 Legacy. I hope to get a Porsche Carrera as a second project car but boy are they expensive.
Restore a Toyota Sprinter Trueno AE86. Super fun
ManCraft restore deez
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its funny how every hater ignores the points he has made and go straight forward with their ego just as he said they do, good choice, nice video
I've had rear-wheel drive (various types), fast cars (various types), two-seaters (various types), front-wheel cars (various types), part-time AWD (bigger) and full-time AWD cars (various types).
After decades of driving, I also decided that practicality and enjoyment were most important to me, but found that our fourth Subaru was the key: a nimble (and colourful) XV Crosstrek Limited.
So, different strokes . . . hope you enjoy your next car. And, the buyer of your 2014 STI is obviously going to be extremely pleased.
get a s2000... i would've gone with that since the beginning preferably and ap1
Just bought my second, first was an AP2. Both are ridiculously fun but I think I prefer my ap1.
+Zach Heath i prefer the ap1 as well because its more racecar with no traction control and 9k redline... btw what color is yours
+Jose Peralta both of my s2000s have been sebring silver. i prefer it to the Silverstone because it's brighter and pops harder IMO. love all the colors though, even Suzuka blue.
+Zach Heath my brothers is a 2002 ap1 silver with the red interior. He also has a invidia q300 exhaust and it sounds orgasmic
I actually preferred my AP2V2 over my AP1. The engine is noticeably stronger, especially after a tune, and I had it set to 8.5k redline. you don't really miss that extra 500 rpm. But regardless, ANY S2k is perfect. I've owned an '03, '05, '06, '07 and was 100% smiles every time I dropped the top. God, I miss that car.
Honda s2k is impractical just because it's a 2 seater? no problem just buy 2 of them and you have a total of 4 seats!
And no cargo space haha.
Fucking genius!
What you are experiencing are stages of growing up and becoming an adult. I and lots of other people have went through the same process. I bought a Nissan 370z in 2009 because I was young and wanted a sports car. After owning it for 3 years, I came to realize that it is impractical but is still fun to drive. I bought a Lexus RX330 as a second vehicle for traveling needs.
I think the renegade is a great vehicle that doesn't get enough light on it.
I think the Renegade is awesome!
+Engineering Explained Get the trailhawk dude. Everyday would be an adventure.
It's a shame they won't let you have the manual in the Trailhawk :(
I rented a manual renegade and it was horrendous
Perhaps the reason for it not having enough light on it is because you only said half of the name of the car.
get a forester XT and a mx5!
I thought the same lol
I'm in OR with a 15' XT and would totally let EE test drive anytime he wants!
Wait, this is filmed in OR? Nice. lots of good roads here. I totally get the weight thing. I traded a Focus ST for an Audi S4. The S4 has a lot more power but weighs 600lbs more. Not quite as fun in the twisties.
I bought myself a e46 1 and a half years ago. First real car I've ever owned. For the past year my enthusiasm about cars have grown sooo much. Now I am thinking of either getting a 350z or mustang v8 s197. I own cars for fun and passion. I dont really need one to work etc.
...... *YEAH, I REMEMBER BEING 20 TOO*
Fiesta ST.. Its not RWD but fun to throw around.
focus bro
I would absolutely love to hoon around in a FiST
+Ghostburn70 unless its RS...
Fiesta ST bro
This was a great video with important information that i think a lot of car enthusiast miss out on. If you like the car and enjoy driving it thats all that matters, don't worry about what other people say that it is doesn't have enough hp or doesn't "look cool enough"
I would've thought the 370z would've changed your mind not the mx5.
370 is a pretty "luxury" feel sports car, not much fun factor for daily.
+Johnny Batz you're thinking of a g37. a 370z is pretty brutal for a daily. lol.high clutch engagement,stiff suspension, hard seats. I guess it's not as lightweight as an s2000 but I couldn't daily one.
+frankth3frizz the z33 series wasn't considered a true sports car when it debut, untill after market parts came out. It was a car for "mature men". Not saying it's not a sports car, I love the 370. Great car.
+Johnny Batz Huh? 370z doesn't feel luxury at all. Maybe to sporty simplistic cars like the Miata or brz.. Daily 370z is very harsh lol
+kkthxk driving dynamics will be different in a two door sports car vs a 4 door wagon/hatchback.
You'll definitely miss the STI at some point but as far as suggestions go how about the Subaru Crosstrek for practicality and an older Lotus Exige for the fun car?
I like what you're thinking! Exige can be pretty pricey though.
Focus RS?
Good luck finding one.
I own a 2011 STI and a 1995 Miata. The STI is somewhat modified but the Miata has a lot of work done to it. The STI is still mostly practical for all of the reasons you listed AND it's fun to drive. The Miata is not practical at all and really not very comfortable with the suspension work that I've done but it's SO much fun that it more than makes up for it. I don't subscribe to the idea of having a "beater" car and a car that you love because, more than likely, you'll more often be driving the "beater" and not get to enjoy yourself. If you spend a lot of time driving, why not enjoy it? Thanks for making such great videos!
All this and your going to end up with a Focus RS :p
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spoken like a true engineer. I just bought an MR2 Spyder and in a week I've come to ignore all its shortcomings because its so fun to drive.
Why don't you get a Toyota Camry, they last for 20 years.
What's that got to do with anything
MrJockeyHD Good quality
Fail wheel drive
+Son of a Zombie TH-camrs earn almost $3 per 1000 views that don't have adblock btw. As of right now this video might have earned $819 if none of the viewers had adblock. If half of the viewers have adblock then it would be nearly $410
It sounds like you want an MX-5 or a BR-Z/86.
spot on, I was in a very similar situation a few months ago. I had a wrx for awhile but when I sold it and got the sti, the ergonomics killed my back on long boring drives for whatever reason. Sold the sti, now I have a Honda garage - a new civic for commuting and trips, and a cbr600 for fun!
Oooh, sounds like a nice garage. I'm afraid I'd kill myself on a bike, so I plan on sticking with four wheels.
Haha fair enough, that was my mentality for a long time. But the itch to try motorcycles never went away, so I figured screw it. I try to be the smartest I can about it. I started small on a 250 then got what I really wanted after practicing for a year. The risks are very real, but I'd say the vast majority of them are within the rider's control. How much protective gear you wear, what time of day you go, type of roads you go on/when you go on them, weather, your mood, training, who you ride with, bike condition, where you decide to twist the throttle a little bit more, knowing your limits and staying well within them, etc....all about self control. That and people that don't see you when they're on their cell phone as they make a left turn in front of you. They stink.
+Engineering Explained a great combo would be a subaru crosstrek for a daily/adventure vehicle and an mx5 for the sporty car
+lr45gaming is your username also your gamertag on xbox?
get an E46 M3
David Westernall but its super fun, fast and it looks beautiful.
and heavy
+David Westernall E46 M3 3410lbs , Subaru WRX STI 3390lbs. 🤔Heavy
E46 M3 engine in E46 compact... sleeper to the bones
ego....
Mr Engineering Explained... You're selling your STI and thinking of a Miata... Sigh. It's like Bruce Jenner going from a world athlete to a... well... you know. ;o)
Sounds you have a personal preference! Congrats! From the sound of it it sounds like you prefer an STI over a the new Miata. Now the question is... have you lived with either car? or driven either? I have a personal preference too!! Yay! I thought I'd share. I have owned, flogged, tracked and daily driven an RX8 an RX7, an NB Miata, E36/E46 M3, 2x WRX STI's, a Boss 302 an S2k/8th gen Si and C5/C6 Z06 and I can wholeheartedly say that the 2016 ND Miata is hands down the best drivers cars out of any of these cars just short of a Lotus Elise. No its not going to beat much off the line but when you hit that start stop button and blip that throttle and really feel that power plant frame connecting every sensation into your hands, feet, and ass... and even better, you throw it into a corner and feel the double wishbones up front telling your hands feet and ass every single detail about the road you're fighting with, You might become a believer too. Go to a dealership and test drive one. You might forget to keep your butt from leaking because all the focus is going into the smile on your face. ;) Mazda really created something special for people that love the FEELING of driving rather than creating something that moves quickly. I will admit the moment I was finished test driving the ND (Which I spend a good 50 miles in) I went straight to a Jaguar dealership to get a feel of an FType S... Still can't believe I'm saying this... That Miata will ruin you. Drive one.
I was just kidding but unfortunately, I know first hand about the stigma of small cars. I used to have a BMW M Roadster and everyone used to poke fun at me. LOL. (Partially because I lifted weights a lot back then and was too huge for the car.). It was all in good fun though. But yeah, that stigma is there. I went on to drive normal M3's after that and my buddies didn't giggle anymore! :o)
Now I have an STI on order. Can't wait for her to arrive!! (And now I'll probably be ridiculed for it being a 'kids car.' Gotta love the stigma.
If anything no matter what you drive someone is always going to tell you that you should have bought something else haha. As long as you are happy with sitting in that seat and starting it up everyday that is the only thing that matters!
STI DucatiMan It's going from a heavy car to a nimble lightweight car, with probably a quicker 0-60.
ah that ego thing he was talking about is being demonstrated
Totally agree with everything you said in this video. Having a good 0-60 time absolutely does not necessarily equate to a car that's good to live with every day, or even a car that's fun to drive in anything other than a straight line. Personally I prefer a simple approach to motoring fun - light, normally aspirated, and with good driving dynamics. Too bad there are very few cars like this being built these days. Most modern cars just feel numb to me.
expecting an awd car to be lightweight is kind of silly though isnt it?
Different price range, not stock
You Have to Get a BMW M//!!!
M2 or M4?! :)
I'm liking hte M2 idea. lol
Therefore the M2 is the better option.
But soon there will be a M2 CSL!! Less weight and More POWER//!
Lawrence Lo CLS?
I have had the same epiphany as you, I have a 621whp Audi A4,I bought a R53 Cooper S as a daily, and just love it that much more than the A4. The 1000lbs weight difference just makes the car 10 fold more fun, even though it has a 1/3rd of the power.
wait for a civic type r hatch ;)
rwd
Civic type r are nice, but, fail wheel drive
All kiiiiinds of gainzzzzz
I love CTR but its not so lightweight as he wants. His shot is Mazda MX5, Lotus Elise or Alfa 4C.
+kobedabest ff layout beat gtr and porches around any tracks. dont listen to video game players man. fwd is much more practical
Aww poor Subie getting dumped :(. Do whatever you feel is practical but I'm no longer your friend now lol
A very apt analysis. I've always felt weight made a huge difference over horsepower - feels much easier to control and nimble, especially when trying to do performance-style driving at lower speeds.
My previous car was a '95 Civic Si, however I sold that and got a '12 STI sport tech four years ago. I like what each car had to offer, but the weight thing drove me nuts. The car feels like a land-yacht compared to a lowered coupe with a 2000lb curb weight. Given the incredibly harsh winters here, I decided to pick up a $500 daily driver to beat on with city miles, ended up getting an '01 Legacy wagon with the 5 speed. That car isn't as powerful as the STI, but it is much lighter and regains some of that lost nimbleness. I can also attest that it handles identically to the STI when breaking traction on all four wheels in snow, so you can have some fun too.
Ultimately the best way to buy enjoyable cars is with a simple two-step approach:
1. Max out the ratio of fun per dollar spent.
2. Keep it cheap enough that you don't need to worry about it.
I suggest Jaguar F-Type
Haha, if only!
+Engineering Explained I agree, my mother bought a pre owned f type v8 so much power and light... but for my money I would get the v6 as a daily driver save on gas and money. saw a used on for 41k
I agree with everything he's saying in this video which is why I'm going to get an e85 z4 and drop a vq35 or longitudinal 4g63 with a 2.5 stroker and smallish turbo! So excited.