probably rage quit when they went no cap kill all and threw the match. this doesn't necessarily mean you were part of that since you never had opportunity to cap.
They were discussing tactics, cap or defend you own, as it was questioned should the AMX start to cap, would the VK have enough time to get back. Later, as the AMX didnt seem interested in capping, they discuss what the VK should do once he reached their cap, as the VK driver considered himself a bad player. So he was advised to park up at the collapsed bridge, facing their own cap. As it turned out, likely the AMX went AFK, assuming a sure win or IRL issues intervening. Solid comms by the 2 NL players here.
@@lukewalker8989 It was probably before then but he stopped being a WoT Community Contributor when the SirFoch Chrysler drama happened in I think 2018?
@@jonasgraumans2034 Eh, you can have fun. But only if you play in the middle of the night up to the server reset, when all the kids and muppets are already asleep und you can actually perform tactical maneuvers.
So ill translate this bit for you Jingles. ( starting from 10:04 ) Type 64 : "Diffecult choice this is" | VK : "Yeah i don't know :-(" "Im averagly bad" | Type 64 : "If i where you i would go to their cap and cap it" | VK : "Yeah but if he caps ours..." "Do i have 90 seconds?" Type 64 : "He thinks that you are staying by our cap" | VK : "Hmmm..." "Just have to hope" | Type 64 : "Just sit in the back of the cap, armour pointed forward" | VK : "Hopefully he doesn't cap" "Where?" "Ping the spot?" "Oké lets go"| Type 64 : "Go straight, there in the corner by the wall" "now turn ur ass" "stop" | VK : "Okay" "I think he is now there" | Type 64 : "Yes but he needs 10 rounds to kill you" VK : "Yeah he has trouble penning me anyways" | Type 64 : "You only need 1 shell to kill him" "Only your ass is weak" | VK : "He is gonna shoot HE" "100%" "GG?" | Type 64 : "He wants to survive" | VK : "Sadly no ace"' There you go, enjoy ur translated Dutch gibberish Jingles!
Bullitburst here! I've been a long time subscriber & viewer and I did not expect to see my own replay on the channel. Thanks for the entertaining commentary as always Jingles! Fantastic!
Actually jingles, there were 2 hulls build and 1 turret. Also there were 4 more hulls and some turrets in various states of completion before the project was cancelled. At Krupp there were also lots of cut steelplates found for the Maus. Krupp said in 44 that if the project was restarted they had enough parts to build around 30-40 hulls and turrets. Both hulls underwent trials in Böblingen and later Kummersdorf. Hull 1 was fitted with an E-Turm (just a big weight to represent the turren) while Hulls 2 was fitted with the only finished turret. Hull2 with the turrent was blown up by the germans when the soviets reached Kummersdorf. Soviets did firetests on hull 1 and then fitted the turret of hull 2 to hull 1 and sent the Maus to Kubinka, where it was stripped of engine and all interior parts and is still there today. Some people even think Maus 2 might have even fired in the last days of the war while defending Kummersdorf before it was blown up, but there is no evidence of that. So going by that the Maus was much more of a finished tank then most of the "prototypes" in World of Tanks, especially the ones that seem to defy physics (or at least the technical expertise of the time they were designed). It is one thing to draw up a 60 ton tank that can go 60km/h but quite another to find or build the components to do that, especially in the 1930-50 era.
Maus was fully built (V2) V1 had the weight tested turret, they supposedly attached another V2 turret to V1 when they sent them out. With so little surviving documentation left after WW2 it's fair to question it but the thing is sitting in Kublinka for goodness sake
Yeah if I'm remembering things correctly, V1 was the 1st built (the prototype, mostly used for testing), and V2 was the production model and the only truly completed Maus (I believe they had also gotten few hulls in the works as well). V2 was scuttled by the Germans before the Russians got to it (the only thing that was really intact was V2's turret, it was also apparently a tremendous effort to remove it off the hull's remains, requiring 6 half-tracks), the Germans ultimately failed to skuttle V1 (if I remember correctly, the explosives failed to detonate), and it had been captured largely intact by the Russians. The Russians would then put V2's turret onto V1's hull, and had the Maus undergo testing at Kubinka, where it remains now as an empty hulk. The E-100, however, the only thing to prove its existence as being a tank that was actually built is an unfinished hull that the British captured and scrapped.
Always nice to see a fellow Dutchie. Yeah you are right about him discussing this plan in the chat, alongside some discussion about how to position the tank and what the AMX is doing.
He keeps saying the max speed is 20 while Bullit driving on 24 lmao. For those who don't know, he's using Turbocharger equipment which add solid 4 Km/H forward and 2 Km/h backward. He could add 1 more Km to that if he unlocked field mod for another equipment type slot thingy. This tank is a good fun. I actually love it.
5:30 "The commander's cupola is a weakspot" No it's not. 220mm in front, 175 on the sides and back. Lower plate's 135mm, but effectively 200-220 on flat ground. You want to hit the sloped plate on the other side of the roof from the cupola for overmatch- it's 40mm.
The VK 100.01 P knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the VK 100.01 P from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the VK 100.01 P is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the VK 100.01 P must also know where it was.
That “weak spot” cupola on the turret is still 220mm base armour frontally. If you don’t have a square-on shot, good luck. I have this tank, it’s my go-to if I need to rack up blocked damage. Can use the cupola to bait shots, jink about to mess up their aim. Just gotta keep them off your flank, hide that paper lower plate and you’re gold.
@@timeforgottenprince8271 Even then it can still troll many tanks. ...mostly even and lower tier obviously, but had plenty of games where the damage report coming in of shots blocked is just a thick band of gold.
I had a very similar scenario a couple of years ago on Westfield. Down to two tanks, me in a Matilda and an enemy driving a Stuart. After lurking around my base for a while I decided to chance it and make a dash (as much of a dash as one can make in a Matilda) towards the enemy cap, knowing if I got too far and he started capping me I was done. As it happened, I got about halfway when I heard my cap alarm start blaring -- drove back, with the counter running down to its last few seconds and me still not seeing anyone in the cap. I fired a few shots into a destructible house in desperation, and there he was! Luckily for me he was down to a sliver of health and all it took was one shot -- in the literal last second of the countdown -- to knock him out. I always wondered how he felt being on the receiving end of that match lol
My taste is significantly more rotten because my mind went to Fallout Boy. Yes, I know, I am deservedly ashamed of it, it's not even a guilty pleasure, just a lack of knowledge.
@@scoman91 significantly more rotten? Are you insinuating that my taste is rotten because my mind went to AC/DC, one of the greatest rock bands of all time? Though I may have some personal bias seeing as I’m Australian.
@@luckysamurai no you nitwit they said their taste is significantly more rotten, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE being the keywords there. Basically they’re saying whilst my taste is rotten, theirs is SIGNIFICANTLY MORE rotten. If they said their taste is rotten that would have been it, but by saying significantly more rotten, they also said my taste was rotten, though not as rotten as theirs. It’s basic comprehension. For example, if I were to say Justice League is significantly more terrible than Batman v Superman, I am also saying Batman v Superman is terrible, just not as terrible as Justice League. If I were to say Justice League is terrible, then I am just saying Justice League is terrible, that’s it. It may seem like a little detail, but to the more observant and attentive, it stands out like a sore thumb.
A few years ago I was playing on Ruinberg in my Pz 1 C and it was me against one enemy with 7 mins to go. I rolled my tank on its side and waited for a death that never came....it ended in a draw. After the battle I messaged the player on the other team and told him that he should have come looking for me because I'd rolled and they could have had an easy win. They replied saying that they'd done exactly the same thing and rolled their tank as well!
In all WG Games, the mid tiers are so much more fun. Tier 10 ist always meta slave gold (for tanks) or HE (for ships) spam while camping hulldown or at range. Tier 9 is rolling the dice on the matchmaker but can be fun because of EXP gains. Anything below that ist actual fun gameplay... And tier 3-4 and below is sealclubbing, which is also fun :D
@@seamon9732 if the average player was on KotS levels that would be another story. The cynical part of me tell me to afk the first 10 minutes of every match because NOTHING happens. People try to emulate what they see streamers etc do but they don't understand the reasoning and tactics so it turns into a monkey parade. I am by no means a great player, carry potential of a cucumber and my aim is about as crisp as milk. But it's a hard to watch people who must have turn off their minimap complain about shitty teams while hugging the border out of range of their main guns. So I try to keep it tier 8 and below for my own sanity :)
@@Terrados1337 I'm with you on this. KOTS has no relevance to the vast majority of players. It's like judging your primary school basketball games by looking at a NBA game :) I sincerely think many players either can't read a map (quite possible, given that they're so young they've probably never seen a real map in their lives) or have it minimised because it gets in their way :)
Getting my first and only tier 10 was an epiphany for me. Playing at T10 felt hollow because the earned xp was useless. That's when I realized I was playing for the grind but for fun. That's when I quit both wot and wows and never looked back. I still like a well commentated replay but will only play games that I actually enjoy.
Actually Jingles, one Maus tank was build, but before it could get to the front lines, the German forces in that area had already been obliterated so the crew decided to blow it up from inside and joined the other fleeing soldiers. The russian forces found the hull and the turret, I cant really remember from the top of my head which one of those parts was too damaged to be used, but I know the got either the turret or the hull from german factories, got it together with the damaged one and moved it (after testing) to Kubinka museum (which was the main reason I visited Russia). By the way love the content, I hope everything with the house and stuff is going well. I am actually about to join the army (going to the University of Defence in Czech Republic) to join our pretty bad and very small tank force as a commander :D
There where two hulls build for the maus and one of those hulls actually had a turret so there was a fully working prototype of the mouse. In the end the turret was put on the second hull and the whole thing was moved to the kubinka tank museum in moscow(russia).
10:00 Actually, Jingles, there is the possibility that the enemy light (i was tempted to write DD) perma spotted him from the moment he killed the arty. So you can never be 100% sure if still being spotted or not until the light bulb pops up again.
Correction: the maus had a fully assembled unit, and a concrete turret for training and prototyping Two hulls existed, one on the complete version, and the other was being finished The E100 only had an incomplete hull, no working or even blueprint turret
this was easily my fav tier 8 heavy. when i played it it was just a massive beast and even in tier 9 and 10 games I was doing very good thanks to the armour
I made it to tier 8 in the US, USSR, China, Italy and Swedish lines and now I'm just playing this game for fun ....I already get into enough 9 an 10 battles now is time to enjoy WOT 😁
Actually Jingles: The Panzer 7 "Maus" existed and still does in Kubinka Tank museum. Two hulls were build, one for testing with a mockup turret and and the one in Kubinka with the real turret. It was scuttled howerver, before the allies could get hands on it. Good thing im wearing a flak jacket today.
Actually the the Maus in Kubinka was the one with the mock-up turret. The one originally made for the real turret was destroyed but the Soviets managed to recover that turret and put on the first hull.
Even the enemy AMX was Dutch, Edwin is a typical Dutch name, and he was just 15 years old........ BTW, the type 64 is my clan mate..... perfect conversation in chat!!!
Nice assumption Jingles on the 6th sense skill although they didn’t discuss in the chat in Dutch - it was mainly on the location and cap circle positioning - keep the videos coming - they are lovely with the British humour
Actually Jingles they did built a second Maus turret with the actual intended armament for the V2 prototype hull. So you can therefore say they did build the Maus.
Maus was running and had both hull and turret and weapons, you can see many photos from the war, including photos where it was destroyed. Today there is still one complete vehicle in Russia. What has only hull was the E-100 that should have come after the Maus, but was never finished.
They built 2 Maus tanks, one was just a hull with a concrete mockup for the turret for testing the suspension system of the vehicle, the second had its real turret including the guns which is on display in a Russian tank museum. It consists of the first prototypes hull with the seconds turret. The Germans attempted to sabotage them before retreating from the approaching Soviets by blowing one up and pulling the turret off the other. The bombs did very little damage to the hull.
In March 1944 the second prototype, the V2, was delivered. It differed in many details from the V1 prototype. In mid-1944, the V2 prototype was fitted with a powerplant and the first produced Maus turret. This turret was fitted with a 128 mm KwK 44 L/55 gun, a coaxial 75 mm KwK 44 L/36.5 gun and a coaxial 7.92 mm MG 34. The V1 prototype was supposed to be fitted with the second produced turret, but this never happened. By July 1944, Krupp was in the process of producing four more Maus hulls, but they were ordered to halt production and scrap these. Krupp stopped all work on it in August 1944. Meanwhile, the V2 prototype started tests in September 1944, fitted with a Daimler-Benz MB 517 diesel engine,[8] new electric steering system and a Skoda Works-designed running gear and tracks. and they have 1 in the kubinka tank museum in russia build from spare parts of the V1 and V2 after they had blown it up
...and even if reliability was good and fuel was available, it can't go anywhere because there aren't any bridges in Europe that can support it. But it's still vulnerable to having a 500 pound bomb dropped on its roof by an attack plane :)
@@kaltaron1284 you're right, that was the plan, but I don't think this was feasible, either. The mud and silt on the bottom of many rivers might get the tank bogged down. Imagine being stuck at the bottom of a river, under water, in a 188 ton tank. That's a very impressive coffin :) Much later, in the sixties, with more advanced technology available, the Soviets tried this during a huge military exercise involving thousands of tanks. It included a mass crossing of a river by driving through it. Dozens of tanks didn't make it, lost their way, drove in circles etc. in spite of the fact that a T-62 only weighed 37 tons.
@@johnnyenglish583 Never said it was a good plan. I'd even call it a bad one. But it was the only option for the Maus. Which might be part of the reason why the project never progressed further than a few prototypes if even that.
When I was going up the line to the Maus I loved this tank and would heartily recommend it to anyone. The Mauschen however was hot garbage and a real pain to get through.
Jingles overanalysed the situation near end game. The VK's best option indeed was to go to enemy cap to lure the AMX and even if AMX had started capping when VK was near enemy cap, he would have made it in time, give or take a second
On tanks that existed. When I was in training at Fort Benning Georgia, I got to see examples of the T29 series being restored before being later moved to the new museum down there. It caught me off guard because I didn't realize they had existed, let alone still existed and there I was going through WOT withdraw on a ruck march and there they were. I went fan boy real quick. Haha.
Jingles I don’t know what you’re talking about with the Maus, it very much was a fully functioning prototype, heck they built 2, one with a functional turret and gun and the other with a mock up turret for mobility trials, both had functioning engines and transmissions and were capable of moving under their own power, they were just scuttled by the Germans at the end of the war so the Soviets wouldn’t get their hands on them, the remains of both were salvaged into what sits in Kubinka today.
Maus did exist in at least 1 actual prototype. It blew itself up however because of a loading failure and the breech failed to close. There are photos of it if you look it up. One of the current "reproductions" of the maus , if you wanna call it that, actually is made out of the turret of said detonated tank. Either way technically the maus existed
I haven't played WoT ever since the number of science-fiction tanks in top tiers exceeded the number of real tanks, but I have to say, the graphics department at WoT is even better than that at WoWS. The graphics is just amazing. That burning building at the enemy cap... the smoke is just so good. In fact, it's one thing that's missing in WoWS - smoke isn't voluminous enough. But here.. wow!
Wait .. i thought the Maus V1 hull was fully functional with a dummy turret and the later tested V2 even had an actual turret with working 128 fitted in 1944...
It took me over 6 years to go down this tech tree but i quickly realized how awesome this tank is, i mean i was skeptical cause i could mostly deal with these tanks easily. Either way i was wrong.. On average i was scoring over 4k each battle just in dmg..
Yeah, I gotta agree with Jingles on the 12t. He likely flipped himself or otherwise got stuck somewhere. The only other possibility is that the player had a really badly timed call of nature that he/she couldn't ignore.
You’re thinking of the E-100 with the hulls and mock turret, Jingles.. They built two Mauses and one of them fought on the Eastern front. To my knowledge the other kinda just sat in Berlin until the Russians showed up.
They did finnish the Maus. They made 2 tanks. One with the mockup turret that you mentioned and another one 100% finnished and combat ready. The hull of the completed one was destroyed by the germans because they didn't want it to end up in enemy hands, but the turret was relatively intact. Soviet enginers put the real turret on the other prototype that had the dummy turret and conducted field trials with it to see how it would have performed if the germans got it in production. It is currently on display in a museum in russia. I don't remember where though.
I believe they built 2 Maus one of which was used in battle where it ran out of gas, was abandoned and captured. It now is the one on display in a Tank Museum in Moscow I believe.
Today, Mighty Jingles forgets that Maus V2 was a fully functional tank, and only Maus V1 had a mockup turret. That is despite that the functional turret is on display in Kublinka (With most of the insides gutted out after the Soviets blew it up for no reason).
I love the VK100.01 P, it's like driving a Maus without dealing with the bullshit of tier 10 all the time, and if you happen to be top tier even if tier 6's fire gold at your weak points they are unlikely to be able to do anything
From the first message of Druppie (Dutch for droplet=D and B=Bullitburst): D: This is a difficult choice B: Yes, I don't know :c B: I'm average/bad D: I would go to the other cap B: But what if he goes to cap B: I'll have 90s? D: Because he thinks that you'll stay in our cap B: Hmmm... B: Just gotta hope D: Just get in the back of the cap with the nose pointing forward B: that he doesn't go to cap B: where? B: can you ping? B: Oke let's go D: Straight ahead in the corner near that low wall D: Now turn your ass around D: Stop B: okii B: I think he's here D: yeah, but he needs ten shells for you B: He pens me badly anyway D: you only need one D: only your rear is weak B: He'll shoot HE B: 100% B: gg? D: he wants to survive B: no ace unfortunately
*Maus.* Sorry Jingles, The Maus DID exist. *One and a half* of them to be precise. 1 fully build found by the USSR abandoned lonely road. In the facility along that road the other one was found without a turret. the one that was finished and rolled out: It had a turret with a working gun and ammo. In my book: a fully functioning tank! *Dutch.* They were indeed discussing if the AMX was waiting at the base and hoping the AMX would not cap in the meantime he was moving. I consider the AMX flipped on his side somewhere.
I was not expecting any tank to begin talk Dutch at 9:43 Edit: They were discussing why he should go cap and position himself, true, but i have not seen a direct discussion as to how he should go there
Actually 2 Maus hulls were build and one with a turret. Both were wracked before the Soviets captured Kummersdorf and they capture the wracks and pasted them together. In Kubinka is the hull of prototype 2 and the turret of prototype 1.
Significant difference with the BB and the DD, the AMX can’t yolo rush/one shot with torpedoes. AMX pop gun will be lucky to do a couple shots in. You can’t say that about F3 torps.
hmm-as far as i know there were 2 prototypes of the mause built,one whit a concrete-turret,and a mockup-gun,called v1,and one that was more or less ready for service,called v2, the one in kubinka tank museum is both of them..hull from v1 and turret from v2-the germans tried to destroy them both when the russians came
I was the enemy T29. The AMX just went afk without saying anything.
Where did he end up being at?
I imagined it was either that or he flipped somewhere
probably rage quit when they went no cap kill all and threw the match.
this doesn't necessarily mean you were part of that since you never had opportunity to cap.
@@matheusGMN He just said the guy went afk
Maybe lost connection somehow?
They were discussing tactics, cap or defend you own, as it was questioned should the AMX start to cap, would the VK have enough time to get back.
Later, as the AMX didnt seem interested in capping, they discuss what the VK should do once he reached their cap, as the VK driver considered himself a bad player.
So he was advised to park up at the collapsed bridge, facing their own cap.
As it turned out, likely the AMX went AFK, assuming a sure win or IRL issues intervening. Solid comms by the 2 NL players here.
The terms they used were pretty funny. 'Enkel je kont is zwak,' pretty funny way of communicating!
@@quintiax Yes, "zwakke kont' is a much feared Dutch health condition.
Also was planning to translate, but you pretty much covered the important things.
the AMX probably got turned over somewhere and was lying down on his side or back - it happens . . .
Thank u for the translation
My request for Jingles, he makes a WoT video wherein he plays tanks and has fun. I miss seeing Jingles play the game.
He doesn't play WOT anymore!
@@Persian-Immortal oh really? Since when did Jingles stop playing WoT?
@@lukewalker8989 It was probably before then but he stopped being a WoT Community Contributor when the SirFoch Chrysler drama happened in I think 2018?
Playing WoT and having fun are mutually exclusive
@@jonasgraumans2034 Eh, you can have fun. But only if you play in the middle of the night up to the server reset, when all the kids and muppets are already asleep und you can actually perform tactical maneuvers.
So ill translate this bit for you Jingles. ( starting from 10:04 )
Type 64 : "Diffecult choice this is" | VK : "Yeah i don't know :-(" "Im averagly bad" | Type 64 : "If i where you i would go to their cap and cap it" | VK : "Yeah but if he caps ours..." "Do i have 90 seconds?"
Type 64 : "He thinks that you are staying by our cap" | VK : "Hmmm..." "Just have to hope" | Type 64 : "Just sit in the back of the cap, armour pointed forward" | VK : "Hopefully he doesn't cap" "Where?" "Ping the spot?" "Oké lets go"| Type 64 : "Go straight, there in the corner by the wall" "now turn ur ass" "stop" | VK : "Okay" "I think he is now there" | Type 64 : "Yes but he needs 10 rounds to kill you"
VK : "Yeah he has trouble penning me anyways" | Type 64 : "You only need 1 shell to kill him" "Only your ass is weak" | VK : "He is gonna shoot HE" "100%" "GG?" | Type 64 : "He wants to survive" | VK : "Sadly no ace"'
There you go, enjoy ur translated Dutch gibberish Jingles!
Thanks, I don't speak Chinese
@@YungEagle3k Most Dutchies don't either
Bullitburst here! I've been a long time subscriber & viewer and I did not expect to see my own replay on the channel.
Thanks for the entertaining commentary as always Jingles! Fantastic!
Lekker gedaan gozert!
Why hello, do you still play WOT ? , I was laughing my head off when I first watched this video, how does jingles not understand Dutch 😂
Actually jingles, there were 2 hulls build and 1 turret. Also there were 4 more hulls and some turrets in various states of completion before the project was cancelled.
At Krupp there were also lots of cut steelplates found for the Maus. Krupp said in 44 that if the project was restarted they had enough parts to build around 30-40 hulls and turrets.
Both hulls underwent trials in Böblingen and later Kummersdorf. Hull 1 was fitted with an E-Turm (just a big weight to represent the turren) while Hulls 2 was fitted with the only finished turret. Hull2 with the turrent was blown up by the germans when the soviets reached Kummersdorf. Soviets did firetests on hull 1 and then fitted the turret of hull 2 to hull 1 and sent the Maus to Kubinka, where it was stripped of engine and all interior parts and is still there today.
Some people even think Maus 2 might have even fired in the last days of the war while defending Kummersdorf before it was blown up, but there is no evidence of that.
So going by that the Maus was much more of a finished tank then most of the "prototypes" in World of Tanks, especially the ones that seem to defy physics (or at least the technical expertise of the time they were designed). It is one thing to draw up a 60 ton tank that can go 60km/h but quite another to find or build the components to do that, especially in the 1930-50 era.
Was coming here to post this; Cheers!
read rumor that a maus was deployed to defend a town in the end but broke down in route.
@@animenut69 Never happened.
it was basically blown uip at the trial ground when the red army approached.
He proved himself much more than "average/bad" as he called himself, this was excellent play and good teamwork from the Dutchies ;) Well done!
yo rolf de bakker
Maus was fully built (V2) V1 had the weight tested turret, they supposedly attached another V2 turret to V1 when they sent them out. With so little surviving documentation left after WW2 it's fair to question it but the thing is sitting in Kublinka for goodness sake
@John Milton nah hes just crap
Yeah if I'm remembering things correctly, V1 was the 1st built (the prototype, mostly used for testing), and V2 was the production model and the only truly completed Maus (I believe they had also gotten few hulls in the works as well). V2 was scuttled by the Germans before the Russians got to it (the only thing that was really intact was V2's turret, it was also apparently a tremendous effort to remove it off the hull's remains, requiring 6 half-tracks), the Germans ultimately failed to skuttle V1 (if I remember correctly, the explosives failed to detonate), and it had been captured largely intact by the Russians. The Russians would then put V2's turret onto V1's hull, and had the Maus undergo testing at Kubinka, where it remains now as an empty hulk.
The E-100, however, the only thing to prove its existence as being a tank that was actually built is an unfinished hull that the British captured and scrapped.
He is not researching his videos anymore!
What they have at Kublinka is merely an empty shell, hard to consider it anything else than a scrap of metal.
Probably got mixed up with the E100.
Always nice to see a fellow Dutchie. Yeah you are right about him discussing this plan in the chat, alongside some discussion about how to position the tank and what the AMX is doing.
He keeps saying the max speed is 20 while Bullit driving on 24 lmao.
For those who don't know, he's using Turbocharger equipment which add solid 4 Km/H forward and 2 Km/h backward. He could add 1 more Km to that if he unlocked field mod for another equipment type slot thingy.
This tank is a good fun. I actually love it.
5:30 "The commander's cupola is a weakspot"
No it's not. 220mm in front, 175 on the sides and back. Lower plate's 135mm, but effectively 200-220 on flat ground. You want to hit the sloped plate on the other side of the roof from the cupola for overmatch- it's 40mm.
It's high up and easy to hit, I'd count that as a weakspot.
I suspect the AMX flipped himself. There are so many places on this map for a small LT to flip itself. Unless you are an EBR.
I suspect thats what happened as well
Got "The missile knows where it is" vibes from the explanation of how to know where the AMX 12 t is
The VK 100.01 P knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the VK 100.01 P from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the VK 100.01 P is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the VK 100.01 P must also know where it was.
Jingles is so good at narrating these battles that he almost makes WoT entertaining again. Well done to all involved.
You are right about the talks in the battle chat Jingles.
That “weak spot” cupola on the turret is still 220mm base armour frontally. If you don’t have a square-on shot, good luck. I have this tank, it’s my go-to if I need to rack up blocked damage. Can use the cupola to bait shots, jink about to mess up their aim. Just gotta keep them off your flank, hide that paper lower plate and you’re gold.
assuming you're not getting shot at by gold.
@@timeforgottenprince8271 Even then it can still troll many tanks. ...mostly even and lower tier obviously, but had plenty of games where the damage report coming in of shots blocked is just a thick band of gold.
I had a very similar scenario a couple of years ago on Westfield. Down to two tanks, me in a Matilda and an enemy driving a Stuart. After lurking around my base for a while I decided to chance it and make a dash (as much of a dash as one can make in a Matilda) towards the enemy cap, knowing if I got too far and he started capping me I was done. As it happened, I got about halfway when I heard my cap alarm start blaring -- drove back, with the counter running down to its last few seconds and me still not seeing anyone in the cap. I fired a few shots into a destructible house in desperation, and there he was! Luckily for me he was down to a sliver of health and all it took was one shot -- in the literal last second of the countdown -- to knock him out. I always wondered how he felt being on the receiving end of that match lol
I see Jingles is a fan of AC/DC. That Back In Black reference in the title didn’t elude me my good sir.
My taste is significantly more rotten because my mind went to Fallout Boy. Yes, I know, I am deservedly ashamed of it, it's not even a guilty pleasure, just a lack of knowledge.
@@scoman91 significantly more rotten? Are you insinuating that my taste is rotten because my mind went to AC/DC, one of the greatest rock bands of all time? Though I may have some personal bias seeing as I’m Australian.
@@jakreu I literally said it was in the title.
@@JoshCreepa no you nitwit they are insinuating that they are the one whose taste is rotten not you
@@luckysamurai no you nitwit they said their taste is significantly more rotten, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE being the keywords there. Basically they’re saying whilst my taste is rotten, theirs is SIGNIFICANTLY MORE rotten. If they said their taste is rotten that would have been it, but by saying significantly more rotten, they also said my taste was rotten, though not as rotten as theirs. It’s basic comprehension. For example, if I were to say Justice League is significantly more terrible than Batman v Superman, I am also saying Batman v Superman is terrible, just not as terrible as Justice League. If I were to say Justice League is terrible, then I am just saying Justice League is terrible, that’s it. It may seem like a little detail, but to the more observant and attentive, it stands out like a sore thumb.
A few years ago I was playing on Ruinberg in my Pz 1 C and it was me against one enemy with 7 mins to go. I rolled my tank on its side and waited for a death that never came....it ended in a draw.
After the battle I messaged the player on the other team and told him that he should have come looking for me because I'd rolled and they could have had an easy win. They replied saying that they'd done exactly the same thing and rolled their tank as well!
In all WG Games, the mid tiers are so much more fun. Tier 10 ist always meta slave gold (for tanks) or HE (for ships) spam while camping hulldown or at range. Tier 9 is rolling the dice on the matchmaker but can be fun because of EXP gains. Anything below that ist actual fun gameplay... And tier 3-4 and below is sealclubbing, which is also fun :D
WoWs T10 is much more than just spamming HE.
Watch the next King of the Sea tournaments, you'll see what it's all about.
@@seamon9732 if the average player was on KotS levels that would be another story. The cynical part of me tell me to afk the first 10 minutes of every match because NOTHING happens. People try to emulate what they see streamers etc do but they don't understand the reasoning and tactics so it turns into a monkey parade.
I am by no means a great player, carry potential of a cucumber and my aim is about as crisp as milk. But it's a hard to watch people who must have turn off their minimap complain about shitty teams while hugging the border out of range of their main guns. So I try to keep it tier 8 and below for my own sanity :)
@@Terrados1337 I'm with you on this. KOTS has no relevance to the vast majority of players. It's like judging your primary school basketball games by looking at a NBA game :)
I sincerely think many players either can't read a map (quite possible, given that they're so young they've probably never seen a real map in their lives) or have it minimised because it gets in their way :)
Getting my first and only tier 10 was an epiphany for me. Playing at T10 felt hollow because the earned xp was useless. That's when I realized I was playing for the grind but for fun. That's when I quit both wot and wows and never looked back. I still like a well commentated replay but will only play games that I actually enjoy.
Actually Jingles, one Maus tank was build, but before it could get to the front lines, the German forces in that area had already been obliterated so the crew decided to blow it up from inside and joined the other fleeing soldiers. The russian forces found the hull and the turret, I cant really remember from the top of my head which one of those parts was too damaged to be used, but I know the got either the turret or the hull from german factories, got it together with the damaged one and moved it (after testing) to Kubinka museum (which was the main reason I visited Russia). By the way love the content, I hope everything with the house and stuff is going well. I am actually about to join the army (going to the University of Defence in Czech Republic) to join our pretty bad and very small tank force as a commander :D
The turret was destroyed but there was another turret for maus number 2 so the took hull number one and turret number 2 to make a whole maus
There where two hulls build for the maus and one of those hulls actually had a turret so there was a fully working prototype of the mouse. In the end the turret was put on the second hull and the whole thing was moved to the kubinka tank museum in moscow(russia).
A good day when Jingles posts a video
Edit: Supremely satisfying watching him bounce all the E75 TS’s gold shells
10:00 Actually, Jingles, there is the possibility that the enemy light (i was tempted to write DD) perma spotted him from the moment he killed the arty. So you can never be 100% sure if still being spotted or not until the light bulb pops up again.
Also im sure he was spotted by the M44 before he killed it.
It's crazy to see the guy I went to gradeschool with and started WoT with featured on here! Lekker gedaan pikkie!
Correction: the maus had a fully assembled unit, and a concrete turret for training and prototyping
Two hulls existed, one on the complete version, and the other was being finished
The E100 only had an incomplete hull, no working or even blueprint turret
this was easily my fav tier 8 heavy. when i played it it was just a massive beast and even in tier 9 and 10 games I was doing very good thanks to the armour
I made it to tier 8 in the US, USSR, China, Italy and Swedish lines and now I'm just playing this game for fun ....I already get into enough 9 an 10 battles now is time to enjoy WOT 😁
Actually Jingles: The Panzer 7 "Maus" existed and still does in Kubinka Tank museum. Two hulls were build, one for testing with a mockup turret and and the one in Kubinka with the real turret. It was scuttled howerver, before the allies could get hands on it.
Good thing im wearing a flak jacket today.
Actually the the Maus in Kubinka was the one with the mock-up turret. The one originally made for the real turret was destroyed but the Soviets managed to recover that turret and put on the first hull.
@@emberfist8347 right, i forgot. Still, both parts of the Maus existed
If there's 2 tanks left in a battle. You can see the health of each tank. In this battle. The AMX-12t only had 361 health left vs over 1700 health
Je had gelijk Jingels...You where right Jingels ,that was their train of taught
Actually, Jingles, the V2 Maus did have a functional turret. Therefore, Maus V2 was a functional prototype.
That's a very pretty camo.
Also the gun has such a satisfying "Choom"
all the big guns have big voices when they speak, and yes, very pretty Camo he has on that behemoth. :)
Even the enemy AMX was Dutch, Edwin is a typical Dutch name, and he was just 15 years old........
BTW, the type 64 is my clan mate..... perfect conversation in chat!!!
Nice assumption Jingles on the 6th sense skill although they didn’t discuss in the chat in Dutch - it was mainly on the location and cap circle positioning - keep the videos coming - they are lovely with the British humour
According to Wikipedia, two prototypes of the Maus were produced but only one with actual turret.
None saw any combat.
It's been a few years since I last played WoT but scouting with HP is still my favorite scouting tactic.
Specially in a heavy tank xD
12T was probably desperately trying to log back into the game after getting kicked out when it crashed, as happened to me many times recently
I'm an old M1A1 tanker in actual combat (Desert Storm)... Love you, Jingles and Claus. Quit playing WoTs when money and fake tanks took over.
I loved reading the Dutch chat and translating it in my head to Afrikaans.
Actually Jingles they did built a second Maus turret with the actual intended armament for the V2 prototype hull. So you can therefore say they did build the Maus.
Maus was running and had both hull and turret and weapons, you can see many photos from the war, including photos where it was destroyed. Today there is still one complete vehicle in Russia. What has only hull was the E-100 that should have come after the Maus, but was never finished.
@@eth_saver I think they only made a hull for the Panther II as well.
The VKP is a hidden gem. Used it for a lot of blocking/shellproof missions for the the personal campaigns, even for the 279e ones.
They built 2 Maus tanks, one was just a hull with a concrete mockup for the turret for testing the suspension system of the vehicle, the second had its real turret including the guns which is on display in a Russian tank museum. It consists of the first prototypes hull with the seconds turret. The Germans attempted to sabotage them before retreating from the approaching Soviets by blowing one up and pulling the turret off the other. The bombs did very little damage to the hull.
Jingles: [claims maus hasn't actually been built]
V2 Prototype fitted with an actual turret: Am I a joke to you?
*aKscHuALLY JinGLeS*
I suspect the 12t was upside down in some ditch.
Was thinking the same.
Fast tank so if he wasnt careful he would easily flip.
In March 1944 the second prototype, the V2, was delivered. It differed in many details from the V1 prototype. In mid-1944, the V2 prototype was fitted with a powerplant and the first produced Maus turret. This turret was fitted with a 128 mm KwK 44 L/55 gun, a coaxial 75 mm KwK 44 L/36.5 gun and a coaxial 7.92 mm MG 34. The V1 prototype was supposed to be fitted with the second produced turret, but this never happened.
By July 1944, Krupp was in the process of producing four more Maus hulls, but they were ordered to halt production and scrap these. Krupp stopped all work on it in August 1944. Meanwhile, the V2 prototype started tests in September 1944, fitted with a Daimler-Benz MB 517 diesel engine,[8] new electric steering system and a Skoda Works-designed running gear and tracks.
and they have 1 in the kubinka tank museum in russia build from spare parts of the V1 and V2 after they had blown it up
The Maus, aka moving bunker which no one can afford the oil cost and lack any reliability
Still more economic than the Ratte. ;-)
...and even if reliability was good and fuel was available, it can't go anywhere because there aren't any bridges in Europe that can support it. But it's still vulnerable to having a 500 pound bomb dropped on its roof by an attack plane :)
@@johnnyenglish583 Their idea was to just drive through the river. But yeah, not having air superiority makes the thing entirely pointless.
@@kaltaron1284 you're right, that was the plan, but I don't think this was feasible, either. The mud and silt on the bottom of many rivers might get the tank bogged down. Imagine being stuck at the bottom of a river, under water, in a 188 ton tank. That's a very impressive coffin :)
Much later, in the sixties, with more advanced technology available, the Soviets tried this during a huge military exercise involving thousands of tanks. It included a mass crossing of a river by driving through it. Dozens of tanks didn't make it, lost their way, drove in circles etc. in spite of the fact that a T-62 only weighed 37 tons.
@@johnnyenglish583 Never said it was a good plan. I'd even call it a bad one. But it was the only option for the Maus.
Which might be part of the reason why the project never progressed further than a few prototypes if even that.
That AMX likely fell into a ditch or into one of the lower walkways on the canal. It happens more often than you'd expect.
Yayyy, a jingles video!
Just what i needed.
Bullitburst;
You are way better than the 'average/bad' you call yourself at this game. gj
When I was going up the line to the Maus I loved this tank and would heartily recommend it to anyone. The Mauschen however was hot garbage and a real pain to get through.
Jingles overanalysed the situation near end game. The VK's best option indeed was to go to enemy cap to lure the AMX and even if AMX had started capping when VK was near enemy cap, he would have made it in time, give or take a second
On tanks that existed. When I was in training at Fort Benning Georgia, I got to see examples of the T29 series being restored before being later moved to the new museum down there. It caught me off guard because I didn't realize they had existed, let alone still existed and there I was going through WOT withdraw on a ruck march and there they were. I went fan boy real quick. Haha.
Huh, the notification actually worked, wonder of wonders.
Jingles I don’t know what you’re talking about with the Maus, it very much was a fully functioning prototype, heck they built 2, one with a functional turret and gun and the other with a mock up turret for mobility trials, both had functioning engines and transmissions and were capable of moving under their own power, they were just scuttled by the Germans at the end of the war so the Soviets wouldn’t get their hands on them, the remains of both were salvaged into what sits in Kubinka today.
Maus did exist in at least 1 actual prototype. It blew itself up however because of a loading failure and the breech failed to close. There are photos of it if you look it up. One of the current "reproductions" of the maus , if you wanna call it that, actually is made out of the turret of said detonated tank. Either way technically the maus existed
At least when I played WoT, I recall that the AMX 12t was easy to flip on its side. That tanks head was too big for it's body.
I haven't played WoT ever since the number of science-fiction tanks in top tiers exceeded the number of real tanks, but I have to say, the graphics department at WoT is even better than that at WoWS. The graphics is just amazing. That burning building at the enemy cap... the smoke is just so good. In fact, it's one thing that's missing in WoWS - smoke isn't voluminous enough. But here.. wow!
Wait .. i thought the Maus V1 hull was fully functional with a dummy turret and the later tested V2 even had an actual turret with working 128 fitted in 1944...
Nice vid Jingles
It took me over 6 years to go down this tech tree but i quickly realized how awesome this tank is, i mean i was skeptical cause i could mostly deal with these tanks easily. Either way i was wrong..
On average i was scoring over 4k each battle just in dmg..
The AMX 12t must have flipped himself somewhere lol
Would be nice for WG to reveal enemy positions after battle is ended for a 3-4 seconds. Thanks for the video!
That’s not a bad idea. The game already freezes all tanks in place at the end of the battle, it’d be nice to just see where the bastards were hiding.
Perhaps the AMX run out of ammo? It is also possible he flipped his tank somewhere.... Its a fast and light tank and flipping would be quite easy
Yeah, I gotta agree with Jingles on the 12t. He likely flipped himself or otherwise got stuck somewhere. The only other possibility is that the player had a really badly timed call of nature that he/she couldn't ignore.
My thought was also that he was flipped sidewise someplace. There's enough bumps and ditches to get bad air and land wrong in such a speedy light.
Jingles, thanks for making Thursday the best day of the week.
Actually Jingles, there was a functioning completed Maus which underwent field trials but failed miserably and lost its first hull after it exploded.
I haven’t watched Jingles in a couple years. Thanks algorithm for not showing me my subscriptions
Thanks Jingles.
You’re thinking of the E-100 with the hulls and mock turret, Jingles.. They built two Mauses and one of them fought on the Eastern front. To my knowledge the other kinda just sat in Berlin until the Russians showed up.
They did finnish the Maus. They made 2 tanks. One with the mockup turret that you mentioned and another one 100% finnished and combat ready. The hull of the completed one was destroyed by the germans because they didn't want it to end up in enemy hands, but the turret was relatively intact. Soviet enginers put the real turret on the other prototype that had the dummy turret and conducted field trials with it to see how it would have performed if the germans got it in production. It is currently on display in a museum in russia. I don't remember where though.
Kubinka tank museum
I agree with you that is the most likly thing that happened because you could hear to the north booms of a gun going off
dont forget the maus that the russians captured right outside the testing ground :D. great vids Mr jingles, keep it up :D
I believe they built 2 Maus one of which was used in battle where it ran out of gas, was abandoned and captured. It now is the one on display in a Tank Museum in Moscow I believe.
10:01 there was glass shattering distant noise heard.
Jingle jangle, jingle those jingles.
Today, Mighty Jingles forgets that Maus V2 was a fully functional tank, and only Maus V1 had a mockup turret.
That is despite that the functional turret is on display in Kublinka (With most of the insides gutted out after the Soviets blew it up for no reason).
This is getting out of hand. NO notification of this video. I found it vicariously.
Yeey A Jingles WoT video :-)
There has been a working proto of the Maus, and there is a complete Maus in a museum.
I wonder if the AMX had fliped offscreen allowing the vk100 to cap
Ah yes, an over powered super heavy kicking puppies.
Damnit Jingles, with that title I have to stop working and watch this video right now XD
One of my favorite tanks in the game.
Nice jingles xxx
I love the VK100.01 P, it's like driving a Maus without dealing with the bullshit of tier 10 all the time, and if you happen to be top tier even if tier 6's fire gold at your weak points they are unlikely to be able to do anything
From the first message of Druppie (Dutch for droplet=D and B=Bullitburst):
D: This is a difficult choice
B: Yes, I don't know :c
B: I'm average/bad
D: I would go to the other cap
B: But what if he goes to cap
B: I'll have 90s?
D: Because he thinks that you'll stay in our cap
B: Hmmm...
B: Just gotta hope
D: Just get in the back of the cap with the nose pointing forward
B: that he doesn't go to cap
B: where?
B: can you ping?
B: Oke let's go
D: Straight ahead in the corner near that low wall
D: Now turn your ass around
D: Stop
B: okii
B: I think he's here
D: yeah, but he needs ten shells for you
B: He pens me badly anyway
D: you only need one
D: only your rear is weak
B: He'll shoot HE
B: 100%
B: gg?
D: he wants to survive
B: no ace unfortunately
*Maus.*
Sorry Jingles, The Maus DID exist. *One and a half* of them to be precise.
1 fully build found by the USSR abandoned lonely road. In the facility along that road the other one was found without a turret.
the one that was finished and rolled out: It had a turret with a working gun and ammo. In my book: a fully functioning tank!
*Dutch.*
They were indeed discussing if the AMX was waiting at the base and hoping the AMX would not cap in the meantime he was moving.
I consider the AMX flipped on his side somewhere.
I was not expecting any tank to begin talk Dutch at 9:43
Edit: They were discussing why he should go cap and position himself, true, but i have not seen a direct discussion as to how he should go there
so logical as always!
The thing bout the VK's commander cupola it has pretty good armor that can block ap pretty well to some extent.
I'm thinking the AMX 12t most likely flipped himself somewhere or got disconnected from the servers
I bet that AMX pulled a Rick and went to the bathroom, thinking he wouldn't be found...
Comfirmed. They discuss it and the type suggests he caps because the amx will expect him to camp his own base.
Jingles must be loving the tanks in the new American heavy line. HA
Actually 2 Maus hulls were build and one with a turret. Both were wracked before the Soviets captured Kummersdorf and they capture the wracks and pasted them together. In Kubinka is the hull of prototype 2 and the turret of prototype 1.
It is the reverse. The hull is the B1 while the turret is V2
@@emberfist8347 You are right, my fault. :)
Loving the Dutch chat.
Significant difference with the BB and the DD, the AMX can’t yolo rush/one shot with torpedoes. AMX pop gun will be lucky to do a couple shots in. You can’t say that about F3 torps.
The AMX 12t clearly either flipped, disconnected, or had to take a dump at the worst possible time.
hmm-as far as i know there were 2 prototypes of the mause built,one whit a concrete-turret,and a mockup-gun,called v1,and one that was more or less ready for service,called v2, the one in kubinka tank museum is both of them..hull from v1 and turret from v2-the germans tried to destroy them both when the russians came