I had to pause the video and check if anyone made a comment about this horseshoe/hand grenade thing. I am ashamed to admit that I did not get the point of that one. I have thrown my fair share of hand grenades and I can ride a horse (but not well). Can anyone please explain the pun, or am I just over analysing this?
TODAY it's Romania's 🇷🇴 national day, December 1st, you couldn't have picked a better day to feature a Romanian tanker, dear Jingles 😍 Thank you from all Romanians out there.
This Manticore game shows what I do best in WoT, and as an experimented scout I have come to realize that more often than not, the issue with teams not shooting at targets you spot comes from bad positionning : either from you or from the snipers but either way they are physically unable to see the targets you show them. And sometimes it's as simple as "if they come closer they get spotted by the enemy scout and die" Great job from Dmitry, you're definitely a true professional.
an interesting note about the su 122 44 is that it has the old td mechanic where it doesnt lose the normal amount of camo after firing, so it can be a super sneaky machine on top of everything else it has
That Manticore game... wow! A master class in scouting. I don't play World-of-Napkin-Drawings anymore, but I love watching your videos about it. I think it's the pithy commentary that does it.
That scout game was a masterclass in how the old fashioned light tank players worked the fieldcraft. Ebr's just make a mockery of lights. The scouts not complaining about the td's and arty not shooting and the td's and arty not bitching about scouting, get's me in the nostalgic buttons it does.
I like the calls from the past I get from your WoT videos. Always included of course a reminder of the relentless biases and paper tank shenanigans that made me quit the game.
It seems like I always play against (rather than with) great spotters like the last battle with the Manticore. That was some great work. A fun video to start another day in the salt mines. Cheers!
Actually Jinges the guns by the light tanks were battleship caliber. The 2-pounder and 6-pounder were design to share the calibers with the Royal Navy and these guns were used on battleships. They just weren't the main armament.
The SU-122-44 existed as a toy tank. I distinctly remember it in snowcamo with a recoiling barrel and a pop up commander - Ironmade with rubber tracks ca. 1/86 scale in the early 80's. I used to play with it every day. So When it appeared in WOT it was like playing with my childhood toy all over.
10:46 ... altough it almost sounds like Jingles was going to say, in a posh, way that you can't spot the middle of the map from that position ... Nice catch there:)
They aren't completely different. Both teams actually concentrated their fire on spotted tanks. Very very rare to see that level of conscious decision making from and entire random team
SU-122-44 is my second most played tank, and one of my all time favorites in game. The main difference between the 122 on this and the SU-152, is the sliding breech block design, versus the interrupted screw breech found on the heavy tank versions.
World of tanks Dave is like top gears stig… “to test this tank, we’ll have to hand it to our tame tank drive.. it’s not Dave, it’s Dave’s Balkan cousin”
Jingles, You forgot one of the "Almost counts" Almost Counts: in Horse Shoes, Hand Grenades and Tactical Nuclear Weapons. The blast radius of Strategic Nuclear Weapons is so large they nullify the "Almost Counts" rule.
Would be nice to see something like the second battle featured would become a thing in World of Warships. The fact that the Manticore was on first place in its team without doing much damage itself, only by spotting. A destroyer in World of Warships does not get that many points only by spotting as well as a battleship does not get many points by tanking damage. If this would be the case, there would be more players doing their respective jobs for the team.
Wow! I had/have this thing im my WoT-garage, and played many battles in it. Aside from some of the first 10-15 battles, I can not remember playing the SU122-44 in a T7 game.
I don’t want to sound like a negative Nancy, but that first SU game was played horribly. The benefit of being an incredibly powerful top tier TD in a game where no one can challenge you from the front is like me rolling over a team of TVP VTUs when I’m in an E 100. It’s easy. He doesn’t let the gun aim, resulting in an incredible amount of missed shots, auto aims on tanks angled for ricochets or misses them entirely. He loads the gold against a tier 5 heavy tank for no reason other than he auto aimed and bounced a shot off of him rather than aiming. Farmed a multitude of one shots, turned sideways on enemies after getting too overly aggressive because he’s a top tier TD with good stats and it cost him half his health against two lower tier tanks that could not contest him from the front. Then has the nerve to say “Damn im good” in the chat at the end. Rubs me all sorts of the wrong way
Scouting might truly be the only way to make money in T10 battles. The trick to making money seems to not fire your gun, and scouts uniquely benefit from doing so.
Aw yes, "British light tanks with BATTLESHIP caliber guns". Im pretty sure the Sheridan has a bigger gun then the Manticore, yeah i know its a Howitzer but its still BIGGER! Obviously "battleship" caliber is an exaggeration but for god sake 105mm is barely bigger then the 90mm on the M41 Walker Bulldog. You would expect them to have at LEAST 120mm guns.
@@PhilipKerry maybe in the tank circle, but in the naval community, battleship caliber is ONLY 10"+ in caliber. Also, by your logic, 20mm is battleship caliber since it was on battleships. So is 76mm, 88mm, 28mm, 40mm, hell even 12.7mm, which is .50 cals
9:46 the terrain isn't completely flat there, so the team were too far back to have shots on that tank, you have to be around D1 D2 to have a good enough angle to shoot at tanks that far back, unless they go to the edge of the map which is more elevated, but then you have the risk of the tanks in the middle to spot you when you shoot or try to move into the position
If I was driving that thing for this video all of the shots would have swung to the absolute extremities of the targeting bubble and evaporated into the ground before getting so much as a klick close to my target.
"There must be a good reason for the Soviets to pick the Su-100 over this." Yeah. Because they had a ton of T-34 chassis (the Su-85 and thus Su-100 chassis.) Its not like they'd start converting their brand new T-34 replacement (T-44) into TD's. Something traditionally there as a renewal project by adding a bigger gun to a type of tank that normally could not take it. Once the T-54 (The replacement for the T-44) needed some new life they experimented and made the Su-122-54. *that* thing was indeed built but not massproduced. (Less than 100 built which was nothing for the Soviet warmachine at the time.)
Well there was a Su122/54, which was a basicly a T54 Chassis with the 122mm Gun. And the T44 was a T54 predicessor, which had a different Turret but to 95% the same hull and drivetrain. So if you take a T-44 or T-54 Chassis and built a 122mm Gun casemate on it. Its a basicly the same thing.
I remember buying this back in the day, because I needed better crews for my Russian line push. Before the physics rework this thing could fly across the map. It put my IS (Tier 7) to shame, and almost beat my hot rod KV1S on reload time.
We need to update the phrase to be: almost only counts in horse shoes, hand grenades, and nukes. Because uou can ALMOST get that nuke to hit the middle of the city aaaand itll still be obliterated
On the Prok game, how the hell did he not get spotted when he killed the chieftain? He wasn't double bushed and they were probably only around 100m apart.
I love my SU-122-44. I had some absolute beast games in that machine. Although when it's a tier 8 game you are nothing special because that gun only has 175 mm of penetration with standard rounds. Tier 9 games you get destroyed as easy as if you were a t-34.
I wonder if Jingles has a secret account that he plays wot on . Tells no one and has a hidden computer behind a false door and there it is his bat cave wot station .
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"Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades"
... and KV2 shots, of course.
and the horizontal tango. ;)
cause if you ain't near each other you is just playin with yerself.
"Horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear weapons". 😉
@@Fitzwalrus06 : Ghost from Starcraft?
Three very common aboard ship naval passtimes.
I had to pause the video and check if anyone made a comment about this horseshoe/hand grenade thing. I am ashamed to admit that I did not get the point of that one. I have thrown my fair share of hand grenades and I can ride a horse (but not well). Can anyone please explain the pun, or am I just over analysing this?
Was it my imagination or was the B-C 155 never spotted and the Jageroo hit it with a blind shot?
yep he took at guess and got him you can see him type "lol" in chat after he hit him
Definitely a blind shot lol.
The Jageroo has played for quite some time, he knows the map and pays attention to the map aswell, that's a good player.
I love how the Dave lore is slowly expanding
TODAY it's Romania's 🇷🇴 national day, December 1st, you couldn't have picked a better day to feature a Romanian tanker, dear Jingles 😍 Thank you from all Romanians out there.
Happy Romania National day!
Happy Romania national day!
He did it on purpose. I’m certain of it. (In the same way I’m certain that a pineapple is an apple)
@@incompetentdiplomat3716 I never said he intended it 😉 It just came at the right time, just like WG's RNG.
INNA ❤
Im impressed by that Jg.Pz. E100's blind fire shot at the end
Considering that the 122 mm ammo came in 2 heavy pieces the rate of fire is indefensible.
Don't forget they are loaded by Stalin's most stronk Siberian neanderthals
This Manticore game shows what I do best in WoT, and as an experimented scout I have come to realize that more often than not, the issue with teams not shooting at targets you spot comes from bad positionning : either from you or from the snipers but either way they are physically unable to see the targets you show them.
And sometimes it's as simple as "if they come closer they get spotted by the enemy scout and die"
Great job from Dmitry, you're definitely a true professional.
The enemy Manticore dying that early really was a big help.
@@kaltaron1284 Definitely
46% WR players camping behind their base, unable to shoot anything you spot? Yeah, I wonder why they win less games than AFK bot...
@@Slindi81 "More often than not" ^^
What better way to start my day than by watching a Jingles video
2 Jingle videos
A very good call, will have a double thanks
absolutely love it and I feel like I remember seeing the Manticore video on the channel here a while back
Coffee
an interesting note about the su 122 44 is that it has the old td mechanic where it doesnt lose the normal amount of camo after firing, so it can be a super sneaky machine on top of everything else it has
Oh wow, I thought that was only the E25 that had that property.
@@bulbajer E25 is the last tank that still get it.
That Manticore game... wow! A master class in scouting. I don't play World-of-Napkin-Drawings anymore, but I love watching your videos about it. I think it's the pithy commentary that does it.
That Manticore game was without a doubt a textbook example of the value of spotting in WoT.
Passive spotting games with large assistance damage numbers are sooo satisfying to watch
"Almost" only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons
That scout game was a masterclass in how the old fashioned light tank players worked the fieldcraft. Ebr's just make a mockery of lights. The scouts not complaining about the td's and arty not shooting and the td's and arty not bitching about scouting, get's me in the nostalgic buttons it does.
Damn, the SU-122-44 is insane. And the Manti played amazingly
Su152 with 122 kicks it's ass into touch and 122-44 armour is paper in its tier.
I like the calls from the past I get from your WoT videos. Always included of course a reminder of the relentless biases and paper tank shenanigans that made me quit the game.
It seems like I always play against (rather than with) great spotters like the last battle with the Manticore. That was some great work. A fun video to start another day in the salt mines. Cheers!
Ace timing by Akazuki just as Dmitripulls a handbrake turn.
"Please don't call me Dave"
- "Ok not Dave, Romanian Dave then"
Horseshoes, Hand grenades, And Naval Artillery Jingles... never forget that close still counts with naval artillery
2nd game : Textbook light tank play…supported by a really good team. GG
i love light tank videos like this so much
Ah yes, the SU-122-44, the TD that never was and right now in wot you may get that 1 game top tier, following by everything else at the bottom end.
07:17 "Meet Dimitri, Dave's balkan cousin" Come on Jingles, do it the proper "Top Gear" way: "He is not Dave. He is Daves romanian cousin"
Actually Jinges the guns by the light tanks were battleship caliber. The 2-pounder and 6-pounder were design to share the calibers with the Royal Navy and these guns were used on battleships. They just weren't the main armament.
That JPE100 blind shot got me exhale out of my nose.
Master class in passive spotting.
Lovely to hear you absolutely sticking the knife into wargaming and hearing your cat voiceing his/her annoyance too.
So we have Dave and now we have Dimitri who is Dave's Balkan cousin....does this mean we can expect more relatives of Dave in the future?!
Soon enough I'm sure we'll hear from Dave's Spanish/Latin American cousin Davíd.
Always honest Jingles . I love the improv.
"la multi ani Romania" that 2nd battle was great!
I love waking up at 5am on Thursdays to watch a Jingles video. I'm already up to get ready for work anyways soooo....
Love the SU. Absolute beast of a tank, and great fun for just going Bawls Deep.
sometimes i dont even watch the videos i just like them, jingles you seem such a good chap, happy to support you!
The SU-122-44 existed as a toy tank. I distinctly remember it in snowcamo with a recoiling barrel and a pop up commander - Ironmade with rubber tracks ca. 1/86 scale in the early 80's. I used to play with it every day. So When it appeared in WOT it was like playing with my childhood toy all over.
SU-122-54, existed for sure. Can't say the same about the '44.
Dimitri, Daves cousin...man the lore of Dave is getting deeper and deeper.
Both lovely matches, thank you.
Nice one-in-a-thousand battles.
10:46 ... altough it almost sounds like Jingles was going to say, in a posh, way that you can't spot the middle of the map from that position ... Nice catch there:)
the SU-122-44's gun is either a laser or it's trolling the crap out of you ...
wildly unpredictable but so much fun to play.
They aren't completely different. Both teams actually concentrated their fire on spotted tanks. Very very rare to see that level of conscious decision making from and entire random team
Did you see the new game by War Gaming? It's called "Tomorrow Falls" by DPS Games. It looks like another WoT type game.
SU-122-44 is my second most played tank, and one of my all time favorites in game. The main difference between the 122 on this and the SU-152, is the sliding breech block design, versus the interrupted screw breech found on the heavy tank versions.
World of tanks Dave is like top gears stig… “to test this tank, we’ll have to hand it to our tame tank drive.. it’s not Dave, it’s Dave’s Balkan cousin”
Last I heard demitri as a name is when he died in call of duty in front my my eyes
"horseshoes, hand grenades and high explosives" old boy,never forget the HE😉
Nice dbl feature
Demitri knows how to rogue lol
Enjoyed this with my morning coffee. Not to mention liston Jingles comment on two well played games!
Jingles, You forgot one of the "Almost counts" Almost Counts: in Horse Shoes, Hand Grenades and Tactical Nuclear Weapons. The blast radius of Strategic Nuclear Weapons is so large they nullify the "Almost Counts" rule.
Would be nice to see something like the second battle featured would become a thing in World of Warships. The fact that the Manticore was on first place in its team without doing much damage itself, only by spotting. A destroyer in World of Warships does not get that many points only by spotting as well as a battleship does not get many points by tanking damage. If this would be the case, there would be more players doing their respective jobs for the team.
Very nice indeed, Dimitri.
Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenade, nukes, and skunks.
Wow! I had/have this thing im my WoT-garage, and played many battles in it. Aside from some of the first 10-15 battles, I can not remember playing the SU122-44 in a T7 game.
I don’t want to sound like a negative Nancy, but that first SU game was played horribly. The benefit of being an incredibly powerful top tier TD in a game where no one can challenge you from the front is like me rolling over a team of TVP VTUs when I’m in an E 100. It’s easy. He doesn’t let the gun aim, resulting in an incredible amount of missed shots, auto aims on tanks angled for ricochets or misses them entirely. He loads the gold against a tier 5 heavy tank for no reason other than he auto aimed and bounced a shot off of him rather than aiming. Farmed a multitude of one shots, turned sideways on enemies after getting too overly aggressive because he’s a top tier TD with good stats and it cost him half his health against two lower tier tanks that could not contest him from the front. Then has the nerve to say “Damn im good” in the chat at the end. Rubs me all sorts of the wrong way
I met a 122-44 yesterday on one of my increasingly rare forays into WOT - and yea, the new KV1S-A thing can bounce off that all day :-)
10:40 Awww Jingles, you forgot the rest of the saying. It's "Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and thermonuclear warfare."
"Almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and tactical nukes...."
Hot and fresh from the mines. Wonderful
Almost counts in the following - Horseshoes, Hand Granades, and thermal nuclear war!
A morning cuppa and uncle Jingles is there a better way to start the day? Not for me!!
Scouting might truly be the only way to make money in T10 battles. The trick to making money seems to not fire your gun, and scouts uniquely benefit from doing so.
Ah, Stalin's Hammer. LOVED that demented little monster.
i did love my time in the SU-122-44, thing was a beast back when i played tanks
I can respect the Su-122-54, as that thing was an insane beast with guns WAY too big for its size and armor
Aw yes, "British light tanks with BATTLESHIP caliber guns". Im pretty sure the Sheridan has a bigger gun then the Manticore, yeah i know its a Howitzer but its still BIGGER! Obviously "battleship" caliber is an exaggeration but for god sake 105mm is barely bigger then the 90mm on the M41 Walker Bulldog. You would expect them to have at LEAST 120mm guns.
To be fair the sheridan's gun isn't even a howitzer. At least not realistically
Well if you count the secondaries on a Battleship then yes the manticore has a " Battleship Calibre " gun .....
@@PhilipKerry then it's just... a Destroyer Caliber gun....
@@seangunn4772 If a Battleship has secondary guns in its armament of 105mm Calibre then a 105mm gun is Battleship Calibre .........
@@PhilipKerry maybe in the tank circle, but in the naval community, battleship caliber is ONLY 10"+ in caliber. Also, by your logic, 20mm is battleship caliber since it was on battleships. So is 76mm, 88mm, 28mm, 40mm, hell even 12.7mm, which is .50 cals
The Vz was out of draw distance. That's why the TDs didn't shoot him.
Jingles you forgot the other two items that almost applies to. Horseshoes, Hand Grenades, Nuclear and Chemical weapons!
"Immune to any tier 6 medium" - You forgot the fireflly
My dirty pleasure in WoT is the ISU-152K. Got it for almost nothing, and it just makes me smile and laugh with almost each shot
Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, shit fights and thermonuclear devices.
Can't wait for Jingles to talk about the latest WoWS Lighthouse Auction. lol
Okay my brain was on a completly diffrent side from the Video Title, i thought Jingles featured already the tier 5 russian double barreld 152mm "td" 🤣
Hi Jingles. Hope you're having a wonderful day. Take care~
9:46 the terrain isn't completely flat there, so the team were too far back to have shots on that tank, you have to be around D1 D2 to have a good enough angle to shoot at tanks that far back, unless they go to the edge of the map which is more elevated, but then you have the risk of the tanks in the middle to spot you when you shoot or try to move into the position
great video, thx!
"Damn I'm good"
Nah, the tank is though.
If I was driving that thing for this video all of the shots would have swung to the absolute extremities of the targeting bubble and evaporated into the ground before getting so much as a klick close to my target.
My fav..
"I almost joined."
"There must be a good reason for the Soviets to pick the Su-100 over this."
Yeah. Because they had a ton of T-34 chassis (the Su-85 and thus Su-100 chassis.)
Its not like they'd start converting their brand new T-34 replacement (T-44) into TD's. Something traditionally there as a renewal project by adding a bigger gun to a type of tank that normally could not take it.
Once the T-54 (The replacement for the T-44) needed some new life they experimented and made the Su-122-54. *that* thing was indeed built but not massproduced. (Less than 100 built which was nothing for the Soviet warmachine at the time.)
When they say the Manticore has battleship guns, them mean the 30s reload~
I've always been confused how the E-25 was considered so OP it had to be removed from the store... but the SU-122-44 wasn't.
Well there was a Su122/54, which was a basicly a T54 Chassis with the 122mm Gun. And the T44 was a T54 predicessor, which had a different Turret but to 95% the same hull and drivetrain. So if you take a T-44 or T-54 Chassis and built a 122mm Gun casemate on it. Its a basicly the same thing.
Horse Shoes, Hand Grenades, and Thermo-Nuclear Weapons.
Almost only counts in horse-shoes, hand-grenades, and thermo-nuclear weapons.
I checked and apparently the Soviet though the SU-122-44 was too heavy for the chassis they were using.
I remember buying this back in the day, because I needed better crews for my Russian line push. Before the physics rework this thing could fly across the map. It put my IS (Tier 7) to shame, and almost beat my hot rod KV1S on reload time.
We need to update the phrase to be: almost only counts in horse shoes, hand grenades, and nukes.
Because uou can ALMOST get that nuke to hit the middle of the city aaaand itll still be obliterated
5:54 "Damn I'm good"
mate 2 mins ago you were shooting APCR to a KV-1
well the bars of *git gud scrup* has been lowed for years now.....
It should be noted that the Su-122 did not take any damage ramming the Bassotto
Horse shoes, hand grenades and nuclear weapons.
The ISU-122S seems to have been overlooked. It has 3298 base DPM and a 1/2 second faster reload than the SU-122-44.
Jingles it's Dumitru, like the medal!
I love the su100m1 over su12244 i have it setup to turn fast, the gun is already amazing!
On the Prok game, how the hell did he not get spotted when he killed the chieftain? He wasn't double bushed and they were probably only around 100m apart.
I love my SU-122-44. I had some absolute beast games in that machine. Although when it's a tier 8 game you are nothing special because that gun only has 175 mm of penetration with standard rounds. Tier 9 games you get destroyed as easy as if you were a t-34.
Maybe the reload is why they say that the Manticore has battleship guns?
almost only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and thermal nuclear weapons.
I wonder if Jingles has a secret account that he plays wot on . Tells no one and has a hidden computer behind a false door and there it is his bat cave wot station .
Good Morning Mighty Jangles. Only a day late, was out of town.
I dont even think there where blueprints of the Su-122-44. I know that an Su-122-54 exists in Kubinka, but never heard about that on an T-44 hull.