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Hey big d, give me your honest opinion so you think full bridge just has a different sound to it more digitally or something like that. I honestly think it just sounds different from a Korean half bridge
Thank you for bring up the absence of a clipping indicator. These companies need to at least offer an upgraded knob that includes one. I like how you bring up the bad as well as the good.
KICKER wants me to be honest with feedback and that's how I roll anyway so I let them know what I think. Does everyone agree? No, but doesn't change my opinion
@@wal I sure do appreciate the honesty. I never ran a system over 1k rms so I learned when you talked about undersized power and ground inputs during other amp reviews. There are prob a ton of people who learn a ton from your honest reviews. Keep up the good work!
@@walyou keep it honest, we all appreciate it. Salute 🫡 thanks for the great content, unbiased reviews, information, bench tests and most of all your time.
Kicker has been on the come back the last few years, the classic golds the new solo x and kicker key, they are not just living on their name good job kicker 🎯
@@chuckholmes2075well they have been industry first in many things the original truck box, square subs, key technology, FIT technology. And their quality has never went away amps make rates subs take rates and they are only company doing free air 100 hr test at rated power test which is impressive.
The SPL market is not a huge portion of car audio, but very dedicated and most are willing to pay for products that are reliable. This amp may seem expensive at $1099 USD, but the Sundown SALT3 is $1149, much larger and not as powerful.
Just picked mine up the last item for my install alpine radio Audio control matrix 6 Audio control epicenter 2 kicker cx360.4 2 pair kicker ks6x9 2 pair kicker ks pods 2 kicker kicker 12 inch marine subs IB set up 2015 dodge charger
Awesome Amp! I love how it has a remote diagnostics display and they even thought to make it able to just throw over your backseat the wire for the remote bass knob --- (Livin loud everyday with bass knob in hand)
I had a Kicker amp back in the day and it was attached to a Stinger wiring system. These days I run sumthin a lil bigger!! I do have a fond respect and appreciation for their products! But this amp is juiced up!! I love settings and having a competition mode is cool. I’m happy they are still putting out great products!! Keep bumpin the subs Big D!
Another good one Big D! I recall a time when most people referred to their car subs as "kickers" whether or not the brand was actually kicker, Lol! Good opportunity to point out once you go over X wattage for a given setup, the actual gains in overall SPL/Db is marginal at best. Something about diminishing returns.
Finally got mine hooked up to 2 12” compQ subs and it sounds amazing shaking my entire garage definitely worth the price …I’ll still save my six series as a backup
That's what's up papa Kicker 👏 I absolutely love the fact that Kicker is finally modernized flexing 💪 these days! Finally shutting them haters up and showing them who started the game here in the US. Them solo X's... definitely are on my list to use in a system on down the road. Papa Kicker is what got me started as a basshead back in 97. I'll always have mad mad respect for good ol papa Kicker!!
3:32 this is the first time where the review on the accessories was far more impressive I could have just stopped the video right there and been happy 😆 good job kicker
Wow I can’t believe they did the separate knob and diagnostic and didn’t include clipping indicator. Now you have to run another wire and mount two separate parts. I feel like this was a huge oversight especially for the amount of time and lead up to the amp coming out. Really surprising because they usually thinking about how to make things easier and more intergraded but this is the opposite of that and like old tech almost. Maybe there’s a reason and I’m missing it 🤷🏻♂️
Got a feeling Kicker won’t be selling many of these, with todays class D cookie cutter amps being so cheaply made you could get a 5k amp for under 600.00
We will have to let the market decide. Keep in mind that there's only a tiny number of people who are going to buy giant amplifiers, anyway. For every Warhorse Kicker sales, I'm sure they'll sell 100 - 200 of their little CXA mono amps.
Back years ago I had a Zr600 Kicker amp and it was supposed to be 600 watts RMS @ 4 ohms bridged, but according to the factory test print out. It was actually putting out 850 watts RMS, I was running a pair of 12 inch Solobarics (the round ones). I never never had the SPL tested but it had enough force to put out a zippo lighter of someone in the front seat of my little 92 Celica GT. I had a all kicker setup running off a Kenwood echelon head unit with a motorized flip face, the entire system cost me less than half of retail offline from a wholesale site. Needless to say this shop that had all kinds of high end electronics, nearly had an brain aneurysm when they asked me what I had when I picked up the crossover module I ordered from them and then how much I payed. They had some kind of deal that they were the exclusive dealer for kicker products in the area and me paying $2500 for a system I priced while browsing there, would have been around $6000. They threw such a tantrum about their "exclusivity" deal with Kicker, that unless I told them what website I bought it from that I would be banned from the store. I laughed and said, "I already have everything I need from you and bye bye" as I waved walking out the door.
I just noticed a change in the board design. It looks like the older board that Joes showing had four output FETs next to the big 80v yellow caps. The release Warhorse now has SIX of those FETs.
Guys it is a class D amp. Clip lights were only 100% necessary for class A/B amps. I agree still a good to have but not absolutely required as they were on the old amps.
It's crazy...on the demo bronco in the beginning of video. Those square subs inverted looked like 3"round aircleaners atop of 6 intake manifolds. 😂 my eyes were messing with me for a second til i realized what I was looking at.
I was about to move past this video until I saw the separate bass control and digital status readout.. this is actually pretty legit! Especially if it hits the power specified!! 🎉 also, it looked like the bass knob had two lights on it?? Are those dots the clipping lights? 🎉 I have to say, for my high end “wish” system, I have to go with a definite BUY for this amp!! 🎉 the specs and durability and quality of this amp is well worth the cost!! Especially compared to what we used to get back in the day!!! 🎉 thank you!! 🎉
Ok. Just finished watching the power ratings and read some comments… here’s my initial take on this amp… it’s an “end game” car audio subwoofer amp that allows you to change/incorporate many different styles of subwoofers/box setups and also designed to be “end game” for “dummies” (not actual dummies, but for those of us who would rather install ONCE and forget). No clip light sucks, but again, if it’s designed for someone who has a nice newer ride and just wants a competent powerful and clean sounding amp that is probably never going to clip or under power whatever you throw at it, allows one to change out sub setups, and even allows for high level inputs, I think this is a really good solution! 🎉. Yes it’s expensive, but again, if I were selling this amp as a solution to a customer, I would recommend it to someone that just says, “gimme the best most powerful and reliable, cool clean amp for whatever subwoofers I want to add at any point, install it with all the power it needs, and from there on, I can just change out their speakers if they want more or less or whatever”. I’m sure the price will go down, and if so, at $600-$800, I think they could sell a lot of these amps! (Especially considering car audio is like 50% gp margins, lol) 🎉
My next amplifier purchase will be for a unit with a clipping light. In a nut shell: I want to do an absolutely tiny, tiny amp setup. So I don't want to be blowing up speakers. What sucks is I believe it's only Rockville?? That makes most small amps with clipping LED's. I don't even want to touch the Brazilian amps. Anyone have a suggestion?.....25, or 40 watts per channel. Must be able to drive 2 ohm load. Crossovers a plus. But I can do passive.
@@MrBetaTubeYou don't actually need a tiny amp setup assuming you have self-control with the volume and bass knob. Or you can simply adjust your gain so that it would be impossible for it to clip.
Clip lights are really not needed you can hear subs make an awful sound and back it down before it ruins the sub or amp. Clip lights are like brake lights for blind people. Pointless.
@@c130aviatorAh, so people keep burning up subs for other reasons, huh? Make an awful sound, do they? You're entitled to your opinion, but don't come up here lying to people.
Loved the video Big D. Amazing to see original badass Warhorse next to baby Warhorse. Technology is amazing. The T2 may happen 😳 again thanks for the great videos. 👍😎
I think its time i finally use my warhorse 10k its been sitting in the box lonely but i just received my 4 kicker solo x 12s i cant wait to get started on it
Ah, so each output is only 2 ohm rated. Gotcha. If you wire all the left coils in series that would be a 4 ohm load. Then all the right coils in series is 4 ohms. Is that the plan? Since it's 2 ohm stable you could get dual 2 ohm subs and wire the left coils in series parallel and get a 2 ohm load. That would get you more output if you wanted it. (This not taking into account impedance rise which is a whole other thing)
I hear ya, but 98% of amps with a clip LED go unused anyway. Everyone thinks they'll use it, then they set by ear anyway. Kicker said eff it, we'll save the 7 bucks. LOL
@@firebirdude2Set by ear? You must be referring to setting the gain. I'm not referring to that, I'm talking about listening to music and cranking it up. As your voltage dips your clip point changes and you want to make sure that you're not going to overheat your subs. That's the main use for the clip light.
It's 25 cents a watt. That's cheaper than some of it's competitors (cough, Rockford, cough). Lol Of course the really cheap stuff is around 10 cents a watt. If your basshead on a budget you get what's cheapest. I don't think this amp is aimed at the basshead on a budget crowd. I think the Warhorse is more a "grown folks who have the money for nice things" amp.
@@dextermorgan1nah not at all & you're not buying the warhorse 3600.1, so what're you talking about? I really could buy 3 of them, but I'd rather get the best deal for the same wattage for my setup, if you must know my boy. I'll be giving my Jp23v2 to my girl & grabbing a Jp43 or Jp63 for my 4 Vxf's, definitely a deal
I never comment on your videos, but I do enjoy them . I do have to say that It's nice to see Kicker getting back to it's roots and getting away from being a Wal-Mart brand 👍
14:24 I'm surprised you don't have a line driver. I know Phoenix Gold used to make them back in the day and they were really nice to have for oddball systems if I remember right it was called the PLD0O1
lol, at 8:46 you're holding the cert sheet and I have my cert sheet hanging up in my cubical at work. All the Passes are at the same exact angles as my sheet. I'm talking IDENTICAL and my amp is almost 5 years old. My amp model is the 46CXA800.1. Just looks like they didn't actually test if the amp passed the tests and are just baked in stamps on the cert.
More than likely the paperwork for each amplifier passes through a machine that stamps them. Another possibility is the passed stamp is pre-printed. Then the paperwork is matched up to the specific amplifier and only the serial number and power is printed on it. When you think about it, there's really no reason for a person to hand stamp each certificate.
Should have clipping indicator everyone wants a clip monitor since they have been out ..reason I don't buy certain amps no clip monitor ..you can clip from other things other than gain not set correct
Did you miss the part where the KICKER amps are tested 60 seconds at Full Output power? I don't think the SIA could do this, nor most other brands with an amplifier at this power output. You are paying more for the in house design with durability and reliability built in.
In 2008 that kicker amp was 9999 that’s crazy never catch me wasting that much hard earn money on an amp they was smokin when they came out with that price tag
You test the DB G7 2500.1? I have two just to run at 2 ohm strapped. Need to know if I can get more output with just one of these at same ohm load. If G7 does rated power or not……help!!!
I dont think Big D mentioned it but i heard when you put the amp into competition mode it shuts off all of the adjustments except subsonic filter. So dont play with it 😂
Yes, but it was also mentioned the amp can handle up to 17VDC when in COMP mode as opposed to 16VDC when it's not enabled. That came from the head amp engineer Joe Hobart at KICKER. But what you said is correct as well
@@JasonWW2000 just a personal preference. I'd rather have one cable to run than two , one box to mount than two. I'd be fine with it either way though.
Can you imagine if chevy changed the corvette into a malibu, but still called it a corvette, but, it's a malibu.. 3600 watts is nowhere close to 10k... it's a sheep in wolf's clothing.
Kicker has there entry level gear and they have high end quality products, this is no exception. I guarantee its great amp that will last along time with proper power. The only thing I don't like is the underating, its birth sheet says 4600 why not call it a 4600.
The actual power output is going to vary from amp to amp so you have to give it a little headroom just to make sure it will do rated. 4,000-4,200 would probably be a safe bet. I can only speculate on why they chose 3,600. Maybe that's what it would typically do in the real world at slightly lower voltage?
Man I don't know if that will happen. Manufacturers just don't rate at 12.6VDC like Orion did with that one. It was a 5kW amp at 14.4. This one is not far from 5kW at 14.4
@@Halfstep2024 well, considering they (RF) already have been producing trash for YEARS not exactly sure what you’re getting at… I have RF amps that are 30 years old and are going strong, and I have ones bought last year that are NFG and juuuust off warranty. What quality are you referring too?
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Hey big d, give me your honest opinion so you think full bridge just has a different sound to it more digitally or something like that. I honestly think it just sounds different from a Korean half bridge
Thank you for bring up the absence of a clipping indicator.
These companies need to at least offer an upgraded knob that includes one.
I like how you bring up the bad as well as the good.
Funny the little Brazilian amps always include one…. How they missed it I don’t know.
KICKER wants me to be honest with feedback and that's how I roll anyway so I let them know what I think. Does everyone agree? No, but doesn't change my opinion
@@wal
I sure do appreciate the honesty.
I never ran a system over 1k rms so I learned when you talked about undersized power and ground inputs during other amp reviews.
There are prob a ton of people who learn a ton from your honest reviews.
Keep up the good work!
@@walyou keep it honest, we all appreciate it. Salute 🫡 thanks for the great content, unbiased reviews, information, bench tests and most of all your time.
@@DemonOfFuryActually, the little Brazilian amps seem to have done the same thing by not including a bass knob.
How they missed it, I don't know.
Kicker has been on the come back the last few years, the classic golds the new solo x and kicker key, they are not just living on their name good job kicker 🎯
i was never a kicker fan. They've always seemed like a day late and dollar short...and they let themselves go? we can thank FAN BOYS for that
The keys been out for awhile. Still good product though
@@chuckholmes2075well they have been industry first in many things the original truck box, square subs, key technology, FIT technology.
And their quality has never went away amps make rates subs take rates and they are only company doing free air 100 hr test at rated power test which is impressive.
The SPL market is not a huge portion of car audio, but very dedicated and most are willing to pay for products that are reliable. This amp may seem expensive at $1099 USD, but the Sundown SALT3 is $1149, much larger and not as powerful.
@@Thumper68 i disagree. Square subs.. i've seen em, had em... not impressed
I'll take the Orion 2500. Half the price. Big D tested it a few years ago and it did 6744W at 14 volts at 1 ohm Dynamic 😎
Don’t think they make the same amp now. I got the 3K Orion splx for 650 off Amazon. I think it did 10300 watts or so on big DS test
in 20 years one will still be working
What a beast let's do this Kicker. Kicker bringing back it's formal glory and then some ... yeah boi
kicker can make a great amp they just havent in a while
glad the bean counters stayed out of this AMP
"formal glory"?
Just picked mine up the last item for my install alpine radio
Audio control matrix 6
Audio control epicenter
2 kicker cx360.4
2 pair kicker ks6x9
2 pair kicker ks pods
2 kicker kicker 12 inch marine subs IB set up 2015 dodge charger
Because of you every time I get a new amp I have to pop it open and check out the guts. Thank you for all the awesome videos keep up the good work
Awesome Amp! I love how it has a remote diagnostics display and they even thought to make it able to just throw over your backseat the wire for the remote bass knob --- (Livin loud everyday with bass knob in hand)
I missed the Patreon notification. Awesome to catch this a day early. Warpony FTW!
I had a Kicker amp back in the day and it was attached to a Stinger wiring system. These days I run sumthin a lil bigger!! I do have a fond respect and appreciation for their products! But this amp is juiced up!! I love settings and having a competition mode is cool. I’m happy they are still putting out great products!! Keep bumpin the subs Big D!
626 amps that sucker was drawing!! Holy crap!! Great video as always
funny thing is thats only a little bit more than Intels new Cpu's........ :O
I think it's using AI in there somewhere and it's causing more power to be drawn 👈😜
Amd fanboys in here. Must be a LTT knee boy. Once you get a decent job using good equipment maybe you will understand
@@numlockkilla huh???
Another good one Big D! I recall a time when most people referred to their car subs as "kickers" whether or not the brand was actually kicker, Lol!
Good opportunity to point out once you go over X wattage for a given setup, the actual gains in overall SPL/Db is marginal at best. Something about diminishing returns.
that thing is a POWER MONSTER on the output, nice work Kicker
Finally got mine hooked up to 2 12” compQ subs and it sounds amazing shaking my entire garage definitely worth the price …I’ll still save my six series as a backup
That's what's up papa Kicker 👏
I absolutely love the fact that Kicker is finally modernized flexing 💪 these days! Finally shutting them haters up and showing them who started the game here in the US. Them solo X's... definitely are on my list to use in a system on down the road. Papa Kicker is what got me started as a basshead back in 97. I'll always have mad mad respect for good ol papa Kicker!!
Glad to see in-house designs instead of all the re-branded stuff. 👍
I cant think of a single Kicker item that was a re-branded product being sold as Kicker, I mean other than stiffening caps and amp wiring kits.
I'm glad some people appreciate it.
Most of these discount brands are simply clones of a 20-year-old design.
It’s a beautiful and strong product.
Excellent video as always! $1099 for a amp of this caliber is a steal imo despite what some may think.
3:32 this is the first time where the review on the accessories was far more impressive I could have just stopped the video right there and been happy 😆 good job kicker
Ordered mine, can’t wait to get it on my solo!
Per sub or on 2 subs?
I’m curious is the amp strong enough for 2 subs
Talk about bringing a tank to a fire fight!!! Way to go Kicker!
The best person to review any amp.. 👏👏
There was no way we could get this kind of power for this kind of money back in the 90s. I made that shit work though! Bass over food sometimes lol
I did too and I went hungry a few times as well. 😊
Eating is overrated
Speakers were alot more efficient back then. Now you need 3000 watts just to move them they're so stiff.
@@derekgardin1512
What you mean they were more efficient???
Which speaker was more efficient?
Yeah Class A/B days were the best... It's too easy now with all these Class D amps now...
The discussion about all the R&D that went into this amp on the link he provided explains it all.
Sometimes its the satisfaction of having a matching system... looks very sharp with the solo x.
Always been a Kicker fan 🤘😎,,, had to edit this 🤔,, I'm a fan of any quality stuff that don't lie about it's power 😁
Wow I can’t believe they did the separate knob and diagnostic and didn’t include clipping indicator. Now you have to run another wire and mount two separate parts. I feel like this was a huge oversight especially for the amount of time and lead up to the amp coming out. Really surprising because they usually thinking about how to make things easier and more intergraded but this is the opposite of that and like old tech almost. Maybe there’s a reason and I’m missing it 🤷🏻♂️
IDK, it seems like an easy enough circuit that could be built into the amp and remote. I would really like it.
That's a stupid design ad looks like an afterthought tbh.
I was also thinking that they should have made one unit for everything. Seems like a no-brainer.
Great review as always. The new Warhorse is a beast of an amp.
Got a feeling Kicker won’t be selling many of these, with todays class D cookie cutter amps being so cheaply made you could get a 5k amp for under 600.00
We will have to let the market decide.
Keep in mind that there's only a tiny number of people who are going to buy giant amplifiers, anyway. For every Warhorse Kicker sales, I'm sure they'll sell 100 - 200 of their little CXA mono amps.
@@JasonWW2000hcca 3k will crush this amp for the same price
@@RomaVillaThat's wonderful. Go right ahead and buy it. 👍
good to see kicker still slaying it.....
Excited to see this one, thanks Big D!
Back years ago I had a Zr600 Kicker amp and it was supposed to be 600 watts RMS @ 4 ohms bridged, but according to the factory test print out. It was actually putting out 850 watts RMS, I was running a pair of 12 inch Solobarics (the round ones). I never never had the SPL tested but it had enough force to put out a zippo lighter of someone in the front seat of my little 92 Celica GT. I had a all kicker setup running off a Kenwood echelon head unit with a motorized flip face, the entire system cost me less than half of retail offline from a wholesale site. Needless to say this shop that had all kinds of high end electronics, nearly had an brain aneurysm when they asked me what I had when I picked up the crossover module I ordered from them and then how much I payed. They had some kind of deal that they were the exclusive dealer for kicker products in the area and me paying $2500 for a system I priced while browsing there, would have been around $6000. They threw such a tantrum about their "exclusivity" deal with Kicker, that unless I told them what website I bought it from that I would be banned from the store. I laughed and said, "I already have everything I need from you and bye bye" as I waved walking out the door.
I love the power supply design. Dang it Kicker be kickin! RF where ya at?
Car audio is an afterthought for RF now.
I just noticed a change in the board design. It looks like the older board that Joes showing had four output FETs next to the big 80v yellow caps. The release Warhorse now has SIX of those FETs.
I think it changed when they added that diagnostic thing which would explain why it's 2 sperate parts.
Joe has recently mentioned they added FOUR extra output fets just to beef things up.
They dropped the ball not including a clip light in this day and age.
Yeah, I agree. Maybe we can ask Joe why they didn't include it.
Ill just spend my money elsewhere@JasonWW2000
Guys it is a class D amp. Clip lights were only 100% necessary for class A/B amps. I agree still a good to have but not absolutely required as they were on the old amps.
@@reganmorben9248 What does the class of amplifier have to do with anything?
It's crazy...on the demo bronco in the beginning of video. Those square subs inverted looked like 3"round aircleaners atop of 6 intake manifolds. 😂 my eyes were messing with me for a second til i realized what I was looking at.
And you put that garbage in your car? It's crap! It always has been since the 90's.
@@gregoryfagan2835 what? I never said anything about what I put in vehicles.
Just made my Sunday even better
Its about time bring back oldschool power 😊
I was about to move past this video until I saw the separate bass control and digital status readout.. this is actually pretty legit! Especially if it hits the power specified!! 🎉 also, it looked like the bass knob had two lights on it?? Are those dots the clipping lights? 🎉 I have to say, for my high end “wish” system, I have to go with a definite BUY for this amp!! 🎉 the specs and durability and quality of this amp is well worth the cost!! Especially compared to what we used to get back in the day!!! 🎉 thank you!! 🎉
There's no lights on the bass knob.
Ok. Just finished watching the power ratings and read some comments… here’s my initial take on this amp… it’s an “end game” car audio subwoofer amp that allows you to change/incorporate many different styles of subwoofers/box setups and also designed to be “end game” for “dummies” (not actual dummies, but for those of us who would rather install ONCE and forget). No clip light sucks, but again, if it’s designed for someone who has a nice newer ride and just wants a competent powerful and clean sounding amp that is probably never going to clip or under power whatever you throw at it, allows one to change out sub setups, and even allows for high level inputs, I think this is a really good solution! 🎉. Yes it’s expensive, but again, if I were selling this amp as a solution to a customer, I would recommend it to someone that just says, “gimme the best most powerful and reliable, cool clean amp for whatever subwoofers I want to add at any point, install it with all the power it needs, and from there on, I can just change out their speakers if they want more or less or whatever”. I’m sure the price will go down, and if so, at $600-$800, I think they could sell a lot of these amps! (Especially considering car audio is like 50% gp margins, lol) 🎉
$10,000 for a car audio amp back in 2008 is Crazy! You could buy a Brand New Chevrolet Aveo, Nissan Versa or a Hyundai Accent for that back then.
This amp is a hulk ! And that 5k burst will bump the fug outta ya
No clip light is a dealer breaker for me
They didnt "forget" they chose not to have one 😢
My next amplifier purchase will be for a unit with a clipping light.
In a nut shell: I want to do an absolutely tiny, tiny amp setup. So I don't want to be blowing up speakers.
What sucks is I believe it's only Rockville?? That makes most small amps with clipping LED's.
I don't even want to touch the Brazilian amps.
Anyone have a suggestion?.....25, or 40 watts per channel. Must be able to drive 2 ohm load. Crossovers a plus. But I can do passive.
@@MrBetaTube Soundstream are small and pretty
@@MrBetaTubeYou don't actually need a tiny amp setup assuming you have self-control with the volume and bass knob. Or you can simply adjust your gain so that it would be impossible for it to clip.
Clip lights are really not needed you can hear subs make an awful sound and back it down before it ruins the sub or amp. Clip lights are like brake lights for blind people. Pointless.
@@c130aviatorAh, so people keep burning up subs for other reasons, huh? Make an awful sound, do they?
You're entitled to your opinion, but don't come up here lying to people.
Dyno tests should be at 13.6 and/or 12.5....
Loved the video Big D. Amazing to see original badass Warhorse next to baby Warhorse. Technology is amazing. The T2 may happen 😳 again thanks for the great videos. 👍😎
I think its time i finally use my warhorse 10k its been sitting in the box lonely but i just received my 4 kicker solo x 12s i cant wait to get started on it
I'm assuming your subs are all dual 4 ohm?
@JasonWW2000 no i ordered dual 1 ohm to have a final load of 2 ohms as the 10k warhorse is not 1 ohm stable
Ah, so each output is only 2 ohm rated. Gotcha.
If you wire all the left coils in series that would be a 4 ohm load.
Then all the right coils in series is 4 ohms.
Is that the plan?
Since it's 2 ohm stable you could get dual 2 ohm subs and wire the left coils in series parallel and get a 2 ohm load. That would get you more output if you wanted it.
(This not taking into account impedance rise which is a whole other thing)
I don't understand. All of those sophisticated indicators and circuits and they didn't include a clip light? Inconceivable!
I honestly could not believe the oversight, thought I was missing something
I hear ya, but 98% of amps with a clip LED go unused anyway. Everyone thinks they'll use it, then they set by ear anyway. Kicker said eff it, we'll save the 7 bucks. LOL
@@firebirdude2Set by ear? You must be referring to setting the gain. I'm not referring to that, I'm talking about listening to music and cranking it up. As your voltage dips your clip point changes and you want to make sure that you're not going to overheat your subs. That's the main use for the clip light.
This damn amp is probably $1,200+shipping & handling😂😂😂.. Just insane!!
MSRP is $1099. Sundown SALT 3 is $1149
It's 25 cents a watt. That's cheaper than some of it's competitors (cough, Rockford, cough). Lol
Of course the really cheap stuff is around 10 cents a watt. If your basshead on a budget you get what's cheapest. I don't think this amp is aimed at the basshead on a budget crowd.
I think the Warhorse is more a "grown folks who have the money for nice things" amp.
You must be young. Nobody over 40 would complain about .25 cents a watt considering we paid $1 a watt back in the 80's and 90's.
@JasonWW2000 I guess, but compared to the JP23v2 which is $.14/watt.. this amp is ridiculously expensive
@@dextermorgan1nah not at all & you're not buying the warhorse 3600.1, so what're you talking about? I really could buy 3 of them, but I'd rather get the best deal for the same wattage for my setup, if you must know my boy. I'll be giving my Jp23v2 to my girl & grabbing a Jp43 or Jp63 for my 4 Vxf's, definitely a deal
I really like when the specs actually get passed by performance
Nice to see kicker coming back with strong products not just living off the old school name of everyone knows kicker!!
That .8 is extremely impressive 😮 remembering it’s only supposed to be a 3600 watt amp ❤
I never comment on your videos, but I do enjoy them . I do have to say that It's nice to see Kicker getting back to it's roots and getting away from being a Wal-Mart brand 👍
Walmart's getting to the point where they carry all the brands. People are going to be buying Sundown from Walmart soon. Lol
Thanks for watching and commenting!
This isn't 90s Jensen Walmart anymore
I was just looking to see what amplifier brands Walmart carries. Sundown, Rockford, Kicker, Orion, Alpine, JBL, Deaf Bonce, JL Audio, Hifonics, MTX, American Bass, Taramps, Stetsom, Pioneer, Audiopipe, Massive, Soundstream, Precision Power, Audio Control, Kenwood, Sony, NVX, DS18, Diamond Audio, Infinity, Memphis Audio, MB Quart, Banda, Power Acoustik, Pyle, Boss, etc...
Wow! I had no idea.
I had to look at it early 😁❤️
Excellent review and Dyno as always Dereck!
That warpony got some kick alright 🔥👊🏼
How do you feel about no clip light?
It seems like the kind of amp that people are going to push really hard. It seems like it needs a clip light.
Please do a alpine deep dive it’s what I’ve ran for a decade different versions I just love alpine
They could have replaced the tailgate on that Bronco with the old amp.
Oh man that would've been cool!
Man brother! I would've love to had seen a .5 ohm run on that amp
14:24 I'm surprised you don't have a line driver. I know Phoenix Gold used to make them back in the day and they were really nice to have for oddball systems if I remember right it was called the PLD0O1
Like a Glade....great wordplay, sir!
Wow! That's pretty dope, for sure!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice I like Kicker products I want to see them come out with a SQL amp in this range.
I'm pretty sure this is an SQL amp.
You're not going to get a bunch of noise and distortion like those cheaper brands.
Awesome video as usual. Could you include the weight when listing the specs please?
Great suggestion and I will include in an update video I'm planning showing more tests and more details about the COMP mode
@@wal thank you!
Do u think this warhorse would push 2 Kicker solo x 15s too the max?
Awesome!! Love your channel
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks.
Good job Kicker!
Let the wars begin!
On a side note, the rock song @ 16:08 sounds like a 64kbps mp3 track downloaded from Scour back in 2001. Lol
Man you know that TH-cam library has only the highest quality tracks 😝
lol, at 8:46 you're holding the cert sheet and I have my cert sheet hanging up in my cubical at work. All the Passes are at the same exact angles as my sheet. I'm talking IDENTICAL and my amp is almost 5 years old. My amp model is the 46CXA800.1. Just looks like they didn't actually test if the amp passed the tests and are just baked in stamps on the cert.
More than likely the paperwork for each amplifier passes through a machine that stamps them. Another possibility is the passed stamp is pre-printed. Then the paperwork is matched up to the specific amplifier and only the serial number and power is printed on it.
When you think about it, there's really no reason for a person to hand stamp each certificate.
Great power as expected.
Should have clipping indicator everyone wants a clip monitor since they have been out ..reason I don't buy certain amps no clip monitor ..you can clip from other things other than gain not set correct
I never clicked so fast on a video😂
Oh wow. Kicker has almost caught up to the reset of the Amps. No clip light. The hell.
For around the same price you can get a Sundown SIA 8000 Certified over 10,000 watts at 1 ohm
Did you miss the part where the KICKER amps are tested 60 seconds at Full Output power? I don't think the SIA could do this, nor most other brands with an amplifier at this power output. You are paying more for the in house design with durability and reliability built in.
How many watts did the 10000 warhorse produce on the amp dyno?
why turn the voltage back up to unrealistic levels after you just turned it down?
Love to put it on three 8500 watt American bass 15s
In 2008 that kicker amp was 9999 that’s crazy never catch me wasting that much hard earn money on an amp they was smokin when they came out with that price tag
It was a low production competition oriented amplifier. It did what it was made for, win SPL competitions.
Good video boss keep it up
You test the DB G7 2500.1? I have two just to run at 2 ohm strapped. Need to know if I can get more output with just one of these at same ohm load. If G7 does rated power or not……help!!!
Can you please do a dyno on the kicker cxa1200.1 amp. One kicker did on TH-cam is not doing the amp justice. Thanks
Very nice amp
I dont think Big D mentioned it but i heard when you put the amp into competition mode it shuts off all of the adjustments except subsonic filter. So dont play with it 😂
The Competition mode is more about setting gain/crossover when using multiple WXA36001 amplifiers, not input battery voltage.
Yes, but it was also mentioned the amp can handle up to 17VDC when in COMP mode as opposed to 16VDC when it's not enabled. That came from the head amp engineer Joe Hobart at KICKER. But what you said is correct as well
Will you be doing a review on the new Jp 93 when that drops?
Hey Now Big D!!!
Would have rather had the bass knob built into the remote box as an all in one unit, but its still workable the way it is
Really? I kind of like that they're separate. I can put the indicator on the dash and the bass knob in center console.
@@JasonWW2000 just a personal preference. I'd rather have one cable to run than two , one box to mount than two. I'd be fine with it either way though.
I'll pass on this kicker. Instead I'll put my money on a JP43. Costs less and puts out more power.
There you go. It's great that we live in a time where we have so many options.
@@JasonWW2000 Yep especially during these times that many of us are looking for the best bang for the money
I went with the new US AMPS 100hc. It was PRICEY.. but man is it a beautiful work of art .
I was just thinking the same way
Can you imagine if chevy changed the corvette into a malibu, but still called it a corvette, but, it's a malibu.. 3600 watts is nowhere close to 10k... it's a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I'm also curious when they're going to release the Warhorse accessories. Wire, fuse blocks, etc...
The fuse blocks look cool, I was hoping they would come with the amp. Maybe by the 1000.4
Okay, I laughed WAY too hard at "What the hexes"! LOL
People complaining about Allen's keys so I've moved on 🤣
Can you please wire this down to half ohm?!? I want to see if it’s stable at half ohm then I’ll purchase one it’s what I need on my current setup.
Half ohm resistive?
Man this thang looks better since hot cheese grit's lol gotta get me one to put on my 4x6.5 subs yes
That moment when... you bring a bazooka to a knife fight. This is Looney-Tunes-level overkill. I love it, but damn. 😳👍
but.... why not incorporate the diagnostic and bass in one?
The zx2500.1 was the best kicker amp period
Eh. I guess we all have our favorites.
Dope Amp
Very cool Big D! I was hoping you were going to run it in Competition Mode and at 16 or 17 volts...
My lithium bank and charging is good for 15.8 or so, planning a follow up video explaining the COMP mode and doing more tests
@@wal sweeet! Looking forward to it.
this amp or salt 4k?
Impressive! 😮
Kicker has there entry level gear and they have high end quality products, this is no exception. I guarantee its great amp that will last along time with proper power.
The only thing I don't like is the underating, its birth sheet says 4600 why not call it a 4600.
The actual power output is going to vary from amp to amp so you have to give it a little headroom just to make sure it will do rated. 4,000-4,200 would probably be a safe bet.
I can only speculate on why they chose 3,600. Maybe that's what it would typically do in the real world at slightly lower voltage?
I am still waiting for Big D to test something as under rated as the HCCA 3000.1DSPLX
Man I don't know if that will happen. Manufacturers just don't rate at 12.6VDC like Orion did with that one. It was a 5kW amp at 14.4. This one is not far from 5kW at 14.4
Nice, but really expensive
Rockford Fosgate, I hope you’re watching this… take some notes please.
What should they do that kicker has done? Start pumping out trash and ruin an otherwise flawless reputation?
@@Halfstep2024 well, considering they (RF) already have been producing trash for YEARS not exactly sure what you’re getting at… I have RF amps that are 30 years old and are going strong, and I have ones bought last year that are NFG and juuuust off warranty. What quality are you referring too?