Super Stoked to see this video. You went in such depth. Good thing we have a bunch of these at B2AudioUSA would love to see a few of these put in a box.
serusly. i would of never to thought to do that. my object was to try it. hear it sucked. just left it as a nauvalty item. if it was cheap and i got plenty. push it to it pops for shiggles.
Luved Big D's introduction to this mini B2 sub, so glad that barevids did one. Although, I always go away from watching most of his videos feeling a bit stupid, lol. I know the science & math to a point but am not an electrical engineer or technician... not good with Trigonometry or Calculous now at 47, have forgotten more than I remember with such things. Thanks, barevids, another great video!
No need to thank me for watching, thank you for putting out this content ! Its been a while, looking forward to S2 also, i'd be keen as mustard to see you try and use a few of these in a car, could make for quite a neat mini series ;)
Dude, you are genius. Great idea to get it setup. That was awesome. Can't wait for season 2 of boom or bust. Definitely plan on submitting a design this time.
I love that it is a scaled down sub. The qts parameter of 1.36 tells me that to get a decent response would be open baffle or a large box. Or possibly a open back box with rockwool to slow the sound speed down. Could work as a "sub" in a small boombox where the back is vented, but would need more power than the typical speaker due to its inefficiency.
boom or bust is one of the coolest bits of audio tech stuff on youtube. My only suggestion is more onscreen images of the math and numbers being simulated. I love it mate.
I'm so glad to hear boom or bust is coming back, one of my favorite audio seasons! Man I really wish that little 2" could do what it does on the slowed footage, I'd have a few in my office 😂
Lets see if we can get this youtuber to buy 100 of them and put them in a cabinet? That would be the best audio video ever! Join in everybody? Who wants to see that happen?
🫡 you as well sir, thanks for obliging and testing out this awesome little driver! I would love to see a scaled down build with like 4 or 6 of them walled off 4th or 6th order I just think it'd be awesome to see all those little cones dancing away lol
That was sick man, Thanks for doing the video so that we can have a good understanding of that 2" driver. Would love to see some beefy 4" subs from them that could actually be used in like a bluetooth speaker or such
😂 changing cone mass to change Fs to change tuning is easy & effective! i replaced the tweeters with "nose caps" on the rear speakers in my car & it sounds much better! (i superglued some Castrol 1qt bottle caps over the voice coil hole 3 years ago, they're still working)
My favorite part about this video is hearing that boom or bust is coming back. I will have to send my 8th order design over. I finished it near the end of season 1 and had intended to make a few changes to make it easier to assemble but gave up on it when you ended the series. I doubt I'll have time to make the changes but maybe I'll send it in it's current form anyway!
I put a 3.5 peerless full range in a red solo cup to find best placement for a car. People that heard it were impressed. When I doubled the cup, performance dropped. Flex in box sounded best filled with poly. The headphone affect was best with speaker facing forward tilted in a bit behind your ear. Not winning any competitions because of sound stage but gives you great immersive feeling. Head rest speakers are highly under rated IMO
When I made the suggestion I personally was just thinking about moving more air, didn't realise it actually plays less loud than the "subwoofer" that you've already been using. maybe would be good for a subwoofer "rivalry" different boxes vs each other. just so that if say, someone wanted to test for the 6.5 subwoofers best enclosure it could be tested on the micro scale instead of trying to find some resources online, potentially pulling in more viewers with you already insane videos, I'm a total bass head and enjoy your content, Keep it up man.
Pumped for season 2, i was so invested in that series hahaha. Been 3d printing enclosures for about 5 years now haha. Got a bunch of odd horn designs and just started modelling the Paraflex designs too might have to enter one if they come in under the size limit!
I think that product is awesome! It's really just meanr for scale appearance, while providing real functionality. But it actually doesn't do badly incomparison to that little Peerless. Not to mention, the narrator didn't mention the coil getting too hot, just mechanical rubbing.
You know I just realized that you are the amp repair guy. I hadn't seen any amp videos from you in a while and thought this channel was dead. I've been a subscriber for many years now and don't know why it didn't click to who you were ,maybe because you're not in your shop. Anyways ,greeting from the states and keep up the excellent work. BTW this build a box series is top notch.
Definitely something wrong with the Algorithm. I been subscribed for years and your videos hardly ever pop up. One of my favorite channels. I loved the video of your system in your car
ZOMG senpai noticed me. More unsolicited suggestions: A quarter wave paradox box A demonstration of how port length, packing materials, port velocities, port flow coupling/decoupling, etc effect performance including wave form distortions. Hexibase has touched on modeling box volume and ports electrically (capacitance/inductance). But a deeper dive would be helpful. I’ve yet to see anyone really dig into the maths and considerations of infinite baffle on YT. There’s a whole series of possible videos there.
Oh man, that is a name of excellence indeed. Clean sub drivers but he got screwed over by the manufacturer on his second production run. I have a brand new, Maelstrom X2 21" in a box ready for a project, and dual 1200W Class AB monoblocks with 1200 damping factor and gold plated PCBs, custom Avel Lindberg 1200VA toroidals with oversized (1400va) cores like Krell does to prevent saturation lol. Been sitting around for years, now have a good 3d printer so can actually build the mold for the enclosure, it'll be a scaled up B&W nautlius snail design.
@@N4CR Dan patented every angle and what it took a certain auto-audio manufactuers years and still didn't get it right he did by himself in like 18 months... he only produced what was cost effective to him.
Great I’ve been hoping you would try it out. I watched Big D review it.Also I would like to see Hexibase play with this. He is a wizard at getting lower frequencies from smaller drivers. But there are limits that can’t be overcome no matter what.
Salute to you too your channel should be way bigger then it is cause of the knowledge and experience and passion for car audio I love car audio and the thought ot destroying a vehicle with a sub or subwoofers keep it up and have a personal? Have you ever thought of moving to the states or visiting enough for you being around us crazy Americans lol
I have two of these and I have built 3 boxes so far 2 ported and a sealed. they sound terrible in a ported box but not to terrible in a sealed box. Also, they say 10w but I have been running them off a 100w per channel Dayton amp and they take it all in the sealed box and haven't blown, I didn't clamp them or anything though... They sure look cool in the little acrylic boxes I built though. Add, His box looks the same size as mine but I have two of them in it.
Thanks, I been waiting for you to get your hands on one of these. Any luck on getting a woofer out of an old laptop? HP used to do a Beats by Dre laptop, I have the one before that which has the little sub too. I think that could make boom or bust series two easier to build for.
Interesting concept of scaling buy increasing the frequencies and speaker parameters. Try make the 6.5inch driver box and place it in a van to see how close you were. That would be interesting. But the van panels will absorb a lot of the energy, you should put some flex in the model or build a full size braced mockup of the model to be comparable.
It’s for 1/10 scale RC. So that puts it close to a 20in woofer in real life. However not all RC is built the same so it’s a good choice for a thumper tho.
According b2audio: "It will play up to 6 KHz fairly well and down to 80 Hz before the roll of drops the response massively. Here's the main ts data FS 94.5 Hz QMS 4.79 QES 1.45 QTS 1.11 VAS 0.2 CMS 0.61 mm/N MMS 4.46g Xmax 4 mm SD 15.2 sq.cm RE 3.6 ohm LE 0.67 mH Spl 1 w 72.9 dB BL 2.6"
I don't think the rule that speakers can't play below Fs works for mini drivers, maybe you should try playing normal music with bass lower than the driver's Fs and a lower resonating cabinet. I'm not talking about 10Hz or 20Hz, but about 50 or 60Hz of the enclosure and port's Fs. I once bought a soundbar with 4 drivers, each of them 2 inches, 4 ohms and 5W of power, and they resonate around 150Hz. These are drivers that reach the end of their path with little power at frequencies well below 100Hz. The cabinet's duct seems to be tuned to 60Hz. But there was a problem with this soundbar: there was no acoustic material to increase the compliance of the speakers, which caused the drivers to reach maximum excursion with little electrical signal, causing the low frequencies to sound distorted and with some mechanical noise (which was not from voice coils hitting the bottom of the magnetic assembly). Since I saw a video from My Stoner Mind about the subject, I decided to test it and filled the box with some type of cushion filling. After that, the soundbar changed from water to wine, for the better. The box can play bass and sub-bass with smoothness and presence, even at low volume. It now sounds like a box with a 5" or 6" driver. Another thing that happened was the greater cone control of the drivers, which are no longer going crazy with high excursion at low volume.
Yooo you should try doing a wall on the peerless drivers in next season, like a proper 6th order using like 6 drivers or even experiment with some horn walls, 4th order etc, i would be interested to see the results
I'd really like to see what something like this would do in a series/parallel configuration. With the extra cone surface should provide a much lower Q than a single driver by it's lonesome.
Super Stoked to see this video. You went in such depth. Good thing we have a bunch of these at B2AudioUSA would love to see a few of these put in a box.
That would be a nice video
maybe make a v2 with more bandwidth. I would actually buy it then.
It would be nice for you to build a 4 inch sub.
We would love to see 30 of these in a center console build.
A line array with 40 of these would be something.
The scaled demo and recording is truly brilliant
serusly. i would of never to thought to do that. my object was to try it. hear it sucked. just left it as a nauvalty item. if it was cheap and i got plenty. push it to it pops for shiggles.
Cute lil thing!
That's what she said and the when it gets mad she said OMG 😋
😂
Yooo the og’s here
Didn't expect to see a legend when I clicked on this video
Garden offff loveeeeee
That was by far the best explanation TS parameters I've ever heard.
Mad scientist. Speeding up the footage then correcting was great.
@ 2:50 that would be an amazing infrawoofer!
Nice one bro 👌. Attention to detail and explanation impeccable as always 💚
The explanation with the pendulum was truly amazing! You sure are a good teacher
It only got better 😂 . Where did you gain all this knowledge?
Man, seeing a new video of you in front of the Boom or Bust set up just brings a huge smile to my face! 😊
I've been working in audio for years now and that was probably the best description of a dynamic driver that I've ever heard
Luved Big D's introduction to this mini B2 sub, so glad that barevids did one. Although, I always go away from watching most of his videos feeling a bit stupid, lol. I know the science & math to a point but am not an electrical engineer or technician... not good with Trigonometry or Calculous now at 47, have forgotten more than I remember with such things. Thanks, barevids, another great video!
dont feel stupid, im decent with electronics and he loses me a lot. he knows his shit really well
No need to thank me for watching, thank you for putting out this content !
Its been a while, looking forward to S2
also, i'd be keen as mustard to see you try and use a few of these in a car, could make for quite a neat mini series ;)
These videos are so underrated
Sick dude! Been waiting a bit for boom or bust to come back! This video was a sweet little experiment though!
Hyped for season 2!🔥🔥🔥
Dude, you are genius. Great idea to get it setup. That was awesome. Can't wait for season 2 of boom or bust. Definitely plan on submitting a design this time.
I have this driver but now I need a 3d printer!!!! Sam send me that enclosure!!!
Super good video, as always. Keep em coming!!!!
I need to get my 3d printer going again I was printing some smoke speaker stuff lots of fun
I love that it is a scaled down sub. The qts parameter of 1.36 tells me that to get a decent response would be open baffle or a large box. Or possibly a open back box with rockwool to slow the sound speed down. Could work as a "sub" in a small boombox where the back is vented, but would need more power than the typical speaker due to its inefficiency.
Best explanation about drivers I ever heard👌🏽 using simple real world examples everyone can understand. You Sir, would be a great teacher.
I didn't understand any of the math or science, but when you did the demo, I got the answer to "Can I put this in my motorcycle?" Worth trying!
I watched both copy's of season 1 I hope it helps have been dieing to see season 2
Your expertise in this field is amazing. First of your videos I’ve watched and I’m impressed. Well done sir.
Great video, and love how you explain things in technical and layman terms
Let’s goooooo!! I’ve missed boom or bust! I even go back and rewatch for fun every once in a while!
Happy to see you doing these vids again. This is so fun to watch and learn! 🙌🏼
Man, I didn't ever think of it, but having an RC car with a sound system would be really fun!
Great explanation of resonant frequencies and the limitations some drivers have comfortably working outside of it.
Wake up everybody boom of bust might be back
He already has a second channel that he's trying to bring it back.
@@brandenplaisance6705 which one ?
Boom of busting yay
Glad u brought this back! Excited to see what the future has in store...
So glad u didn't give up!
Season 2! We are ready! Thanks for making awesome stuff, I genuinely love listening to your videos. Lets go with some dnb 😊
boom or bust is one of the coolest bits of audio tech stuff on youtube. My only suggestion is more onscreen images of the math and numbers being simulated. I love it mate.
I literally just made a comment about you posting today on tiktok oh my God I need more vids so glad you're back hope everything's been well
Love seeing the boom or bust setup again. I'll definitely submit a design for season 2.
I'm so glad to hear boom or bust is coming back, one of my favorite audio seasons!
Man I really wish that little 2" could do what it does on the slowed footage, I'd have a few in my office 😂
Definitely very cool...glad you tried one of those RC ones. Maybe someone will make an even better version.
Finally a mini sub that has the spider, and doesnt sound crappy hitting the coil!
I think there is a better 2 inch sub..
Lets see if we can get this youtuber to buy 100 of them and put them in a cabinet? That would be the best audio video ever! Join in everybody? Who wants to see that happen?
Brilliant explanation
Love seeing this back! Welcome back bud!
🫡 you as well sir, thanks for obliging and testing out this awesome little driver! I would love to see a scaled down build with like 4 or 6 of them walled off 4th or 6th order I just think it'd be awesome to see all those little cones dancing away lol
This was awsome... I wish we could get the 3D box design. Is There a way to get that?
nice one sam! as usual very entertaining informative vid! bring on BoB S2!!!!
That was sick man, Thanks for doing the video so that we can have a good understanding of that 2" driver. Would love to see some beefy 4" subs from them that could actually be used in like a bluetooth speaker or such
😂 changing cone mass to change Fs to change tuning is easy & effective!
i replaced the tweeters with "nose caps" on the rear speakers in my car & it sounds much better!
(i superglued some Castrol 1qt bottle caps over the voice coil hole 3 years ago, they're still working)
My favorite part about this video is hearing that boom or bust is coming back. I will have to send my 8th order design over. I finished it near the end of season 1 and had intended to make a few changes to make it easier to assemble but gave up on it when you ended the series. I doubt I'll have time to make the changes but maybe I'll send it in it's current form anyway!
This is awesome! That’s cool how you were able to speed up the tunes, record, and slow down in post to see how it would perform 😅
I put a 3.5 peerless full range in a red solo cup to find best placement for a car. People that heard it were impressed. When I doubled the cup, performance dropped. Flex in box sounded best filled with poly. The headphone affect was best with speaker facing forward tilted in a bit behind your ear. Not winning any competitions because of sound stage but gives you great immersive feeling. Head rest speakers are highly under rated IMO
boom or bust... damn, new rabbit hole to go down. looks like I'll be up till 5am
When I made the suggestion I personally was just thinking about moving more air, didn't realise it actually plays less loud than the "subwoofer" that you've already been using. maybe would be good for a subwoofer "rivalry" different boxes vs each other. just so that if say, someone wanted to test for the 6.5 subwoofers best enclosure it could be tested on the micro scale instead of trying to find some resources online, potentially pulling in more viewers with you already insane videos, I'm a total bass head and enjoy your content, Keep it up man.
Pumped for season 2, i was so invested in that series hahaha. Been 3d printing enclosures for about 5 years now haha. Got a bunch of odd horn designs and just started modelling the Paraflex designs too might have to enter one if they come in under the size limit!
Yes thank you am about to get one of these and omg I can't wait
I have one of those and use it to play jazz while I work. It sounds really nice with jazz
Keep up the amazing work!!!
I think that product is awesome! It's really just meanr for scale appearance, while providing real functionality.
But it actually doesn't do badly incomparison to that little Peerless. Not to mention, the narrator didn't mention the coil getting too hot, just mechanical rubbing.
ends up being the one of the best bass demos on YT of a standalone box with that trickery lmfao. that was cool as shit lol
Basso Profondo 🙌🏼 Sadness and Sorrow 🔊🔊
You know I just realized that you are the amp repair guy. I hadn't seen any amp videos from you in a while and thought this channel was dead. I've been a subscriber for many years now and don't know why it didn't click to who you were ,maybe because you're not in your shop. Anyways ,greeting from the states and keep up the excellent work. BTW this build a box series is top notch.
Definitely something wrong with the Algorithm. I been subscribed for years and your videos hardly ever pop up. One of my favorite channels. I loved the video of your system in your car
ZOMG senpai noticed me. More unsolicited suggestions:
A quarter wave paradox box
A demonstration of how port length, packing materials, port velocities, port flow coupling/decoupling, etc effect performance including wave form distortions.
Hexibase has touched on modeling box volume and ports electrically (capacitance/inductance). But a deeper dive would be helpful.
I’ve yet to see anyone really dig into the maths and considerations of infinite baffle on YT. There’s a whole series of possible videos there.
Hello, I have a request, what is the name of the song at minute 10:10? I would be happy if I could know, thank you
on.soundcloud.com/XF9xA
I can’t wait to watch this before bed
Prime bedtime material 💫✨
10:09min what is that bangers name i need this song
on.soundcloud.com/sTije
Very good explanation and info. Thank you!
Algorithm gods, Please bless this man 🙏
Brings me back to Dan Wiggins and his XBL>2 technologies.... one of the brightest engineers out there.
Oh man, that is a name of excellence indeed. Clean sub drivers but he got screwed over by the manufacturer on his second production run. I have a brand new, Maelstrom X2 21" in a box ready for a project, and dual 1200W Class AB monoblocks with 1200 damping factor and gold plated PCBs, custom Avel Lindberg 1200VA toroidals with oversized (1400va) cores like Krell does to prevent saturation lol. Been sitting around for years, now have a good 3d printer so can actually build the mold for the enclosure, it'll be a scaled up B&W nautlius snail design.
@@N4CR Dan patented every angle and what it took a certain auto-audio manufactuers years and still didn't get it right he did by himself in like 18 months... he only produced what was cost effective to him.
Great stuff! Thank you!
Great I’ve been hoping you would try it out. I watched Big D review it.Also I would like to see Hexibase play with this. He is a wizard at getting lower frequencies from smaller drivers. But there are limits that can’t be overcome no matter what.
Sadness n sorrow rebase is lit 🔥 brings back memories 😂❤
@@maynellrodrigues9862 best one I made for sure, makes me want to do more like that!
excited for season 2!
I love this series!!!!!! Let's get it!!!!
Excellent work 🎉❤
YEA BABY😂!
I really enjoyed boom or bust so far
Salute to you too your channel should be way bigger then it is cause of the knowledge and experience and passion for car audio I love car audio and the thought ot destroying a vehicle with a sub or subwoofers keep it up and have a personal? Have you ever thought of moving to the states or visiting enough for you being around us crazy Americans lol
Nice video. New driver for season 2 eh? I'm going to have to redesign the coincident port 6th order and the max-port ABC and submit them again. 👍
I have two of these and I have built 3 boxes so far 2 ported and a sealed. they sound terrible in a ported box but not to terrible in a sealed box. Also, they say 10w but I have been running them off a 100w per channel Dayton amp and they take it all in the sealed box and haven't blown, I didn't clamp them or anything though... They sure look cool in the little acrylic boxes I built though. Add, His box looks the same size as mine but I have two of them in it.
Maybe u can post a video or two with your tests?
Thanks, I been waiting for you to get your hands on one of these.
Any luck on getting a woofer out of an old laptop?
HP used to do a Beats by Dre laptop, I have the one before that which has the little sub too.
I think that could make boom or bust series two easier to build for.
this is perfect for a little computer speaker setup. need one
Droppin that bottom
...nice job...pip pip cherrio 😁👍
Interesting concept of scaling buy increasing the frequencies and speaker parameters. Try make the 6.5inch driver box and place it in a van to see how close you were. That would be interesting. But the van panels will absorb a lot of the energy, you should put some flex in the model or build a full size braced mockup of the model to be comparable.
time to get 200 of these and install them in my car
I think the algorithm'S gonna like this one! ;)
It’s for 1/10 scale RC. So that puts it close to a 20in woofer in real life. However not all RC is built the same so it’s a good choice for a thumper tho.
people miss your live streams
Awesome work bro love it
you sir kick ass. subbed
According b2audio:
"It will play up to 6 KHz fairly well and down to 80 Hz before the roll of drops the response massively.
Here's the main ts data
FS 94.5 Hz
QMS 4.79
QES 1.45
QTS 1.11
VAS 0.2
CMS 0.61 mm/N
MMS 4.46g
Xmax 4 mm
SD 15.2 sq.cm
RE 3.6 ohm
LE 0.67 mH
Spl 1 w 72.9 dB
BL 2.6"
I don't think the rule that speakers can't play below Fs works for mini drivers, maybe you should try playing normal music with bass lower than the driver's Fs and a lower resonating cabinet. I'm not talking about 10Hz or 20Hz, but about 50 or 60Hz of the enclosure and port's Fs.
I once bought a soundbar with 4 drivers, each of them 2 inches, 4 ohms and 5W of power, and they resonate around 150Hz. These are drivers that reach the end of their path with little power at frequencies well below 100Hz.
The cabinet's duct seems to be tuned to 60Hz. But there was a problem with this soundbar: there was no acoustic material to increase the compliance of the speakers, which caused the drivers to reach maximum excursion with little electrical signal, causing the low frequencies to sound distorted and with some mechanical noise (which was not from voice coils hitting the bottom of the magnetic assembly).
Since I saw a video from My Stoner Mind about the subject, I decided to test it and filled the box with some type of cushion filling. After that, the soundbar changed from water to wine, for the better. The box can play bass and sub-bass with smoothness and presence, even at low volume. It now sounds like a box with a 5" or 6" driver. Another thing that happened was the greater cone control of the drivers, which are no longer going crazy with high excursion at low volume.
I thought of you when I first seen these, I knew you would grab one of them
Really interested in what test songs you used. Makes me want to test my 12” woofer with em
f**king chuck norris of the subwoofers is back😂
Love every little detail you include man, gonna buy this now 😭 quick question btw, is your favourite sub the xion 15 from audiosystems?
I love your sweater, where can i get one?
I'm looking forward to season two, the first season was highly enjoyable.
Yooo you should try doing a wall on the peerless drivers in next season, like a proper 6th order using like 6 drivers or even experiment with some horn walls, 4th order etc, i would be interested to see the results
excellent!
Im not sure how i got here, but this is SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +1 sub
Excellent video
song name? 10:10
Well Explained!
I'd really like to see what something like this would do in a series/parallel configuration. With the extra cone surface should provide a much lower Q than a single driver by it's lonesome.
Please we need a season 2