Is This Sonic the Fighters' Most Broken Character?
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In 2024, an explosion of StF play brought a new generation of players into the fore, and one of them would choose to do something nobody in the game had ever bothered to do before: compete exclusively as Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotonic, a character that you can only play if your opponent agrees to it.
This is the story of EIZL, STF's only Eggman main.
This video contains footage courtesy of @polymathfullstreams4530 , @alexbtruths , @joshuapacman and K.O.S. It also contains images created by K.O.S. and TiniestTurtles. Big thanks to EIZL, MagusNikki , and SolarFlare for talking to me for this piece.
This video features art assets by TiniestTurtles and @MilkshakeVA
Further reading:
• The Story of Competiti... -stf doc
• Mobius Scuffle #7 - A ... - mobius scuffle 7
00:00 Eggtroducing
02:46 Canceled
03:35 Enter EIZL
6:20 December
7:33 The Eggman Thing
9:15 First tournaments
10:49 EGGMAN
14:00 Jab to Win
16:51 Winter Scrap
20:26 Second match
23:33 The Losers' Bracket Legend
25:58 No Holds Barred Duel
30:44 OwOOOOOO
32:43 Empire
34:27 One more thing - เกม
This game is so sick, everyone should check it out
also shoutouts to wusstunes for being the goat and making the doc!
Not enough characters, and too many movesets overlap between characters. I'll pass. Sonic needs a better official fighting game
@@Jajuan44 nope
@@Jajuan44 find joy in your heart
@@Jajuan44 but it has the best 3d rendition of the classic cast that's ever existed :(
@@Jajuan44 The salt is palpable. Give this commenter a gallon of water.
"unemployed tails main"
damn, they put dude on blast with that one lmao
Tails always be catching strays
The unemployed friend at 3 am
I have a job now this is slander
@@RileyScott*points* SELLOUT SELLOUT
i miss my wife tails
i miss her a lot
I'll be back.
*uncontrollable laughter*
*more uncontrollable laughter*
No wife?
"this move is broken, so ill avoid using it and develop some other tech"
*finds an even more broken thing*
I'm really glad that Competitive shows how absolutely annoying Fang is to fight
real....
"Fang is so annoying guys omg 😢"
Eggman with his forward punch: "You were saying?" 👊
An unstoppable fist versus an immovable cork wall
As a fang and tails main I know full well...
First Eggman pisses on the moon then he pisses on your chances of winning in tournament
"I'm getting into 3D fighters!"
"Oh cool! Who do you main in Tekken 8?"
"Huh?"
Employed Tails main and top player RileyScott*
congrats! make sure to set alarm😄
Congrats!
Congratulations 🎉
Poggers
It is so funny Eizl saw 6P and said "Wow that is broken, but I got some sauce" and the sauce is jab jab jab jab jab jab
Well yeah, six punches is way less monotonous than pressing the punch button six times!
listen, unseasoned butter sauce is still sauce
The whole video is full of great bizarro world stuff. Like how the whole video is written out to portray Eizl as some underdog hero while playing the equivalent of Brawl Meta Knight.
@@Cr3zant Yeeeeee, I'm no fighting games expert but it was getting stale of watching Eggman fight, which is unfortunate cuz I also like Eggman as character but it just seems like we replaced one op with maybe not op but same boring move.
So I wonder if it'll be considered broken again?
It’s tough to imagine something that invalidates any character without a zoning tool sticking around
it's such an honor to be featured in a video like this! huge thanks to wusstunes for this and the documentary that made it all possible, and thanks to the stf community, especially mysticnoodle, kos and solarflare for helping me reach new heights and become more competent in this game than i ever thought i could! to all you egg enjoyers out there: big things are coming, and the era of the eggman empire is only just beginning!!
You're a credit to all egg-mains everywhere!
as anyone in the right mind would say ALL HAIL THE EGGMAN EMPIRE!
Not "unemployed tails" 😭
bbwfumbler has gotta be one of the best names I’ve heard from this scene yet
31:32 "Forgive me master... but I must go all out... just this once"
Honestly, Eggman being the most broken character feels like something he would do.
What does the winner of a Sonic the Fighters tournament win? An egg sandwich?
Someone won a door dash gift card last weekend so, potentially
As a long time Sonic the Fighters fan who lived the whole "Sonic the Fighters is a bad game" era
I'm so glad people are playing even more
GET A LOAD OF- GET A LOAD OF THIS!
GET A LOAD OF- GET A LOAD OF THIS!
NO WAY! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!
Pulling out Tails to counter an Eggman.
If the stage had been Death Egg's Eye, I would've told people this was Sonic Adventure 2.
More seriously, nice job overall. Most of my exposure to STF was single player via the Gems Collection (mostly trying to get Super Sonic), so these videos about the competitive scene are definitely interesting.
As a HUGE Sonic fan it's honestly incredible to see such a forgotten game by the general audience like Sonic the goddamn Fighters make a resurgence in popularity. This is super cool to see! I never thought a competitive scene for this game would form but I guess here we are! Very educational, well structured and just generally entertaining video, INCREDIBLE job to everyone involved! To be a competitive player requires so much hard work and dedication, it's honestly so admirable!! I might actually keep up with the game's competitive scene, this is just so interesting!! Sorry I'm just rambling at this point but again, excellent video, keep up the great work!
Yosh o7
Everybody gangsta till eggman pulls out his SUPER LASER PISS
If there's two crowds I've come to realize have a surprising amount of trans women and NBs, it's non-traditional-fighting-games and Sonic.
Idk about the first, but Sonic makes complete sense. Man's all about being yourself and personal freedom (when it doesn't harm others). Doesn't take a genius to see the connection.
Makes sense. Sonic is cool.
@@manzanito3652TRUEEEEEEE
non-traditional fighting games and speedrunning are trans culture
The raid of the queers💯
BREAKING: Egg-Shaped Man beats up endangered species of bear and child in tournament
Can't believe eggman has a gentleman
I forgot how absolutely unnecessarily hard E.G.G.M.A.N went
Great doc as always
i didn't realize this game had a competitive community, i had played it when i was younger and never found anyone on the online mode so it's nice to know people play it now
maybe i should hop back on after i learn this game better
BBWFumbler has to be the best gamer tag I have ever heard in my life.
Who else to bring down Robotnik but his son, Tails 28:49
Wusstunes simply does not miss, I was hoping for more STF and you have provided
Wait this is such a cool fighting game how have I never heard of it from Sega?!
If you buy one of the Sega Sonic collections on GameCube/PS2 this game is in there
@@Arcademan09wait seriously?! I have both but never knew it was on there…
@@fletch4231 yeah, I swear it's on the Sonic collection Gems, I remember playing it a friends house, we had the collection on GameCube
competitive rise of kirby?? soon
maybe if meleepapa can make it work
Big missed opportunity to call Eggman's forward advancing upper cut move what it is. "EGG Wind God Fist"
I dont know if i hate this name or I love it
@@EzKay_PX you love it
I really should get back into playing Sonic the Fighters. The game really was fun and I need to see what characters I gel with….
Fang is the goddamn Hol-horse of STF xD
AYE AYE SIR!
We just need to give Fang Hanged Man and he'll be perfect
@@hsalfesrever3554 the most powerful keep-away character ever designed xD
Eizl seems so wholesome, and gosh that beautifully described competitive philosophy. Good stuff all around ☺️
That last grand finals was so sick. Eggman empire
Really great video! The editing was amazing and I really enjoyed the music you used
sweet stuff nice to be a part of the story now kinda wish I archived the vod on YTfor others to watch
I can send you it if you want it. I also have an unlisted TH-cam vod of it on my secondary
@@wusstunes sweet yeah send it to me since I don’t archive nearly enough of my streams
The first part when they were playing melee and said it was dance of some sort is the realest thing ever. That's what makes fighting games so good that people don't understand yet .
Honestly, I know nothing about this game, and have seen little of the video, but I do hope the game becomes popular enough to catch the attention of Sega. Having Sonic consistently be a 3D fighter and making Eggman a playable character in such a manner is wildly interesting to me and I hope the fans get a modern title with all the fan favorite characters.
LOVE the STF content lately!
When I’m in a be a clever fella competition and an Eggman Main that doesn’t spam claw appears: 🤯
Always nice to see some Sonic the Fighters content.
good video but I'm taking it down and suing for defamation, the GGST results you willfully showed were clearly doctored I have nor will I ever lose any game to solarflare, govern yourself accordingly good sir. adieu
I HAD NO IDEA YOU COULD PLAY AS EGGMAN OR METAL SONIC!!
Eggman: Press start on Bean
Metal Sonic: Press start on Sonic
Loving the videos wuss, keep it up. I'm curious if you've got any interest someday doing a similar documentary project on the Sonic Riders Competitive scene. They've got a crazy history and community, and they're super creative in terms of introducing new characters and mechanics (Project M style). All the best
Hey! Potentially but honestly if I'm not obsessed with something already it's hard to do this kind of thing. If I end up really liking Sonic Riders maybe, as of now I've never really cared for it personally, but have watched a few videos about the scene. It seems neat, but not sure what I could offer that the Akshon Esports video hasn't.
“The shadow soundtrack is kind of sick”
“I lived in rural Oklahoma”
Checks out
Stuff like this is always exciting and inspiring. It makes me wonder what obscure, niche, unusual series of events need to transpire to help me find my calling.
Now all we need is Metal Sonic to come home…
*like that’s ever gonna happen!*
Wow, i had no idea about this scene, it's so cool! thanks a lot.
this was a AMAZING video. i REALLY loved watching it and my intrest in Sonic the Fighters has grown alot morein the past few days! itts so cool!
I’m curious, what makes Honey uncontroversial, and why did they have her banned to begin with? Was she considered Broken too, or was it just a blanket ban on secret characters?
Honey was not playable in the original arcade release, and was added back into the Xbox version
She's at the same power level as all other normal characters, I think she was just not allowed because until the Xbox arcade port she was completely unplayable
She's uncontroversial probably because she just wasn't in the original game, but completed, it's basically just an extra character
It was just a blanket ban because ranked mode doesn't allow secret characters, and most early tournaments to my understanding mirrored the settings used in ranked mode. (Best of 5 rounds, no barrier regen etc.)
Functionally she's basically a hybrid of Knuckles and Amy. Very good character, but not the best.
@@wusstunes That's very interesting, thank you!
NO WAY! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!!
All systems, full power
Yknow what they say...
Your content is really good man keep it up
Didn't know the game had a competetive scene. Have been playing the game alot in my childhood, that's nice. I would check it out !
I remember the winter scrap, that was my first tournament and I got cooked by Solar iirc. Fun times
Aa birthday present? why thank you
Happy birthday!
Game is so cool. I love eggman.
Also clocking in to say Fuck Riley Scott.
who?
@@bartowo my least favorite unemployed tails main
L + Sidestep + PK
@@RileyScott L + Bowling Grab + Stomp + Hyper Lariat
10:05 Quite possibly the best username + profile picture combination I have witnessed recently.
goated video as always wuss, u never miss
as an oklahoman, i too feel chicagos call
So Fang is like the even more annoying version of Ness for Sonic the Fighters? And Fang's legal, but not Eggman? We live in a society
Awesome video, big smile on my face when you used the gif I made at 6:06
its such a good gif thank you for making it
AAAAAH MY BONES! I KNOW I SHOULD'VE *uncontrollable coughing*
I have sonic the fighters on my Xbox one, I should really play it now since I have a reason to….
Huge Chicago moment
I never really entered any competitive sonic the fighters games, but seeing the game get bigger makes me happy. Its oddly one of my favorite sonic games
Superb video!
I was completely unaware STF even had a competitive scene, what the hell?!
Just use the knuckles slap.
I love sonic the fighters, although my experience on the game was just in solo plays, this definitely looks intense enough for tournaments, and i'm happy that it is
Damn they had a Sonic the Fighters tourney on my birthday lmfao
Also this vid legit makes me wanna play this game competitively
the stf content has been really good atm
24:00 Is SolarFlare the Hungrybox of STF community? 😮
excellent david bowie sneak mention at 10:05
Nice documentary
Another awesome video
Aight yeah im giving this game a go. This convinced me, eggman reminds me too much of jack in tekken for me to not
This game is so cool and I’m happy that people are shedding light on it
This is such a poetic story
I know this is kinda late, but I was not expecting to see the metal sonic and eggman denial emotes I made for the server inside this video,,, I got jumpscared lol
Wonderful video by the way, your storytelling and commentary are truly something to look up to. ❤
Thank you! LMK if you want me to credit you for those in the description. I just kind of assumed a bunch of them were by mystic noodle at this point.
@@wusstunes You're very welcome!!! And yes! It would be *very* much appreciated. :] ❤️❤️❤️
These documentaries are the next step towards the eventual Sonic the Fighters 2.
"Eggman has been legalized"
omg yes, i loved playing him vs metal Sonic with my siblings when we were younger bc of how cheap they were
Idk if you ever read this question/request, but will you make a history video essay about another niche competitive fighting game callrd Shrek Super slam? I wonder what happened to it cuz I remember in the past there was HYPE about it becoming next meme competitive game and yet... Nothing seems to materialise 😢
That games deserves as much love as Sonic The Fighters, both have mechanics n tech worth seeing and mastering
Man, crazy how close Eizel came to winning, if only they hadn't input that 3rd jab arm spin they would have probably beaten Solar's Tails and taken the tournament, but to be fair I would have been drained and misinputing by that point, if not well before it, too.
When is Metal Sonic gonna be unbanned tho??💀💀
Prolly never😭
Metal Sonic is pure evil in this game.
@@SolarFarle True. I saw some of his attacks and they make Eggman look like an average character. Like some of his attacks take half of a character's health.
Been thinking about picking this game up after watching these awesome videos. I’m guessing Metal Sonic is super broken if he’s banned even after allowing secret characters 😭 how Ezil feels about Eggman is how I feel about Metal lol
I've seen metal, just casually mind you, full screen laser that's annoying to dodge and does decent damage, and laser claw move that does a big chunk, I think I've been two shot by it? But we might have had damage + when playing
And that's like 2 moves not the whole kit
Wow yeah rip that dream that’s crazy busted
I wonder which big evil boss character is going to hire Wusstunes PR next...
I hope they're rich!
Oh SHIT, we bringing Eggman back?
finding out that this game has a competitive community is interesting, its been years since i played it, kinda miss this game
I find i'm saying this about a lot of these more niche emulator-centric fighting games but like, I think it'd be kinda sick if it were possible for a community mod that if nothing else toned down the banned characters so you could just pick Eggman and Metal Sonic the same as anyone else (I believe Honey is fully unbanned now? Since basically everyone is playing on versions of the game where she's easy to select)
Shoutout to the guy whose username was BBWFUMBLER
If this game gets a sequel then id love for eggman to get a homing laser drone attack similar to amy's projectiles that last just as long, ooh make it the firefly drones that shoot light beams. I think it would fit him very well and could combo well with his bomb rain attack :)
Id also really love to see other neglected characters added like vector, charmie, mighty, that flying squirrel and gamma or omega... or both :)
Why did you have to mention at 10:16 that Rileyscott was unemployed?
16:12 aww nah eggman got the electric wind god upper he ain't gonna sugercoat it
I miss my copy of Shadow the Hedgehog. You were my friend for like 3 hours for Christmas of like 2008 or 2009. I barely remember.
Solarflare sure won that tournament against Eizel bearly.
Honestly, I was going for Robotnik
In till she use the forbidden jutsu,
I still wanted her to beat her rival.
random but i detect No One Can Stop Mr. Domino music at the beginning . ggood choice
Artdink might be my favorite developer I've never played a single game from
If only this game had rollback
If eggman ever gets unbanned because of new strategies that are easy to counter i would be happy