Is It Possible To Beat Sonic Battle without Upgrades?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
  • I was saying Emerl's correctly right?
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    The Patreon Link:
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    0:00 Intro + Rules
    1:05 Main reason for being here
    29:56 I'll consider this an intermission
    31:08 Back to the main story
    35:04 Ending + a surprise
    #sonicthehedgehog #sonicbattle #challenge

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  • @alsomawdewile
    @alsomawdewile 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

    That Patreon jingle is gonna be clutch

  • @kanrakucheese
    @kanrakucheese 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +706

    The final boss IS playing with cheat codes! Emerl's points cap out before getting enough to equip all the Ultimate moves like the final boss has.

    • @DarknessXxMaster
      @DarknessXxMaster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

      It takes exactly 975 Skill points to Ult.Skill everything.
      His cap is 500 so that's at least a 475 skill gap. Game Shark was the best in 2003😅

    • @ls190v2
      @ls190v2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Cheater!

    • @DarknessXxMaster
      @DarknessXxMaster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      @@ls190v2 There's nothing wrong with having a game shark to see all the interesting features "Cheating" has to offer.
      You get all cards,infinite ichikaro meter...ichikaro is japanese for one-hit knockout and a feature that allows you to instantly KO everyone else with the push of a single button. SEGA was really weird when it came to making games on an Nintendo system.
      Also: Sonic's Axe Kick aim attack could have been his Meteor Smash in Smash Brothers but he was rushed so they gave him Pikachu's forward A attack but with no electric shock affect.

    • @ls190v2
      @ls190v2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@DarknessXxMaster, I wasn't saying all cheating is bad. Cheating in games like CS:2? Bad. Cheating in a singleplayer mode of an old game? That's fine.

    • @DarknessXxMaster
      @DarknessXxMaster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@ls190v2 I apologize. I didn't mean to sound defensive.

  • @DinnerSonic
    @DinnerSonic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +471

    Rouge: "I bet you can't KO me 10 times without using Special Attacks."
    Emerl: "Little do you know, I only use Pathetic Attacks!"

    • @___________0Z0X
      @___________0Z0X 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Yeah, his ground specials don’t count as specials actually. If the enemy is auto blocking shot, the special will still kill them.
      It can still be blocked manually though.

  • @charlesinatortheponyfeatur224
    @charlesinatortheponyfeatur224 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +329

    sonic battle, but tails doesnt know how to fix a gizoid

    • @michaelcarlton1484
      @michaelcarlton1484 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      To be fair, it's extremely ancient technology by Echidnas that Ken Penders sued out of being canon.

    • @Eldoofus
      @Eldoofus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@michaelcarlton1484Sucks to be him, IDW still uses Gemerl.

    • @michaelcarlton1484
      @michaelcarlton1484 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Eldoofus I just want to know if Gemerl has any of Emerl's memories or not because he technically caused the raid on the ARK. He caused a minor incident that G.U.N. looked into which lead into the raid and I feel like he and Shadow deserve a good conversation on the matter.

  • @flipperjr.3822
    @flipperjr.3822 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +209

    Tfw your own moves are so unremarkable Rouge can't even classify them as "special" for her own rules

    • @eugenetan6612
      @eugenetan6612 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Additionally some of Emerls ultimate standard attacks do violate Rogues rules. I suspect that the rule only checks for certain attack effects instead of if the player used an attack mapped to a special button.
      I happened to come across this ages ago and kept malding when the battle kept ending midway through a basic combo which had an ultimate jab in it and couldnt figure out why for weeks lmao.

  • @SnaksiXD
    @SnaksiXD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    It would've been SO funny if for the final boss you fought Emerl in his unupgraded state lmao

    • @rayscene5887
      @rayscene5887 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ferb I know what we're doing today

    • @Atylonisus
      @Atylonisus 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "He's just standing there --MENACINGLY!!"

  • @1Hol1Tiger
    @1Hol1Tiger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    "When Eggman gets knocked up..."
    Good God man, phrasing

    • @mawdewile
      @mawdewile  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      I completely forgot that had another meaning. My bad

    • @xaius4348
      @xaius4348 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Oh right, this is the Sonic community.

    • @Stroimex
      @Stroimex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People need to stop making innocent people responsable for their dirty perma horny slang

    • @jgoofy8233
      @jgoofy8233 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Damn it, man, just let it be

    • @theneoreformationist
      @theneoreformationist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Preggman.

  • @DezVox7
    @DezVox7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    As a kid, I got to the part where you have to dodge Rouge for 2 minutes before I realized upgrading Emerl was possible.
    Safe to say the game got substantially easier after that.

    • @nuehoujuu7503
      @nuehoujuu7503 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Dude, same here lol.

    • @AlmarAZL9S
      @AlmarAZL9S 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      LOL! 👍 for you two.

    • @galaxian9664
      @galaxian9664 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Then there’s me. I went through the whole game with no upgrades cause I didn’t know any better. I STILL don’t understand how I beat eggman.

    • @CrispusGames
      @CrispusGames 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here!! What are the chances hahaha

    • @marcelwilms432
      @marcelwilms432 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL SAME BRO!!

  • @LunaAlex64
    @LunaAlex64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    Cream is actually the most powerful character in the game outside of customized Emerl; she has an infinite as you found, you can juggle people with the tornado special, she has a double jump, she heals extremely quickly, and her aerial B move comes out SO fast, incredibly easy to spam

    • @Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz
      @Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Her heal is fucking bonkers, it gives her so much health AND meter, running away and abusing it is a viable strategy

    • @DarkFrozenDepths
      @DarkFrozenDepths 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz That heal is second to only emerl's "Ultimate" version.
      Considering the challenge, she has the best heal in the game.

    • @Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz
      @Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DarkFrozenDepths
      Well of course, Ultimate Emerl is in a league of his own and requires ridiculous grinding to get

    • @megamillion5852
      @megamillion5852 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And her dash attack easily transitions into her air attack, iirc. This can be devastating against a wall.

    • @Project2025WILLRUINYOURLIFE
      @Project2025WILLRUINYOURLIFE หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I love how in her story, she refuses to fight for the first half of it. Then Gamma starts beating up Emerl and says "What can a little bunny do to stop me?" And then you play as her and find out she's OP.

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    When I played through the game when I was 5 I didn't even know how to install the upgrades on Emerl so I kinda did the challenge from my own stupidity.

    • @tylervoss4527
      @tylervoss4527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Right there with ya bud 😅

    • @nobodyinparticular9640
      @nobodyinparticular9640 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here as well xd
      Never realized to hit like left or right on the customization screen to switch menus, so, think the only thing I could change were Emerl's special attacks.
      I think I thought I had yet to unlock the ability to change his other moves, uh.

  • @ys1197
    @ys1197 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    Rouge lying is in character ngl

    • @clawcakes2
      @clawcakes2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this is true! girl loves to lie!

    • @Crystal323100
      @Crystal323100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Rouge being so unimpressed that she gives it a pass as not being a special move is also in character, though it'd come with a sassy remark.
      "Calling those special moves would be like comparing pyrite to gold."

  • @rainbowsparkle122
    @rainbowsparkle122 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

    the special that you don't chose is used up as a defense option. that means you automatically block whenever you are hit with the corresponding special. for instance getting hit by an shot special with shot as defense will block that move regardless if you press l or not which is why at 16:21 gamma blocks emeral's special in mid air.

    • @calemr
      @calemr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Also: He later mentions the enemy never blocking some special moves of Emerl's, and I believe it's because they don't have those special types.
      The Jazz Hands doesn't produce a trap, so it's not blocked by Set type block.

    • @rainbowsparkle122
      @rainbowsparkle122 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@calemr Yeah that makes sense. Not sure if its an oversight or intentional. Either way it did make the run a lot easier. That would also explain why it didn't fail him for the Rouge mission where he needed to ko her 10 times without a special move.

    • @mawdewile
      @mawdewile  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      That makes so much sense. I’ve just been mashing A when the special move menu pops up so I’ve been wondering why walking up to the other characters’ land mines automatically blocked it.
      Also yeah, I think the game only counts the landmines and shock waves parts of the special moves as the special move. Which is why Emerl’s grounded SET can’t be blocked, and why using the grounded SHOT was viable in Rouge’s ‘don’t use special moves’ battle.

    • @rainbowsparkle122
      @rainbowsparkle122 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @mawdewile so will this be in the neat things in sonic battle video? lol

    • @mawdewile
      @mawdewile  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Oh for sure

  • @Slimeonian
    @Slimeonian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I’ve never actually played Sonic Battle but seeing the sprites in this video made me remember some fan made sonic browser games YEARS ago that I used to play quite often. Ahh nostalgia

    • @___________0Z0X
      @___________0Z0X 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      The GBA sonic sprites are fantastic.

  • @Tjprower
    @Tjprower 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    So, the thing about Emerl's base special attacks. Most of them don't actually have the internal "special move" tag applied to them.
    They do regular damage with no special properties.
    That is why the ground trap and the air shot will completely bypass the auto guard function of the npcs, as well as not trip Rouge's "no special attack" rule.
    If you use an actual special move ability, she does stop that fight.
    Now the actual reason for this is interesting. Consider Sonic's special moves. His shot and trap attacks launch projectiles, which deliver the related properties of their special attack types.
    If you use Sonic's shot attack like you would use emerl's, its ball form ALSO ignores autoguard.
    My guess is that they specifically coded it so that Sonic's spinball will always hurt an opponent who isn't ACTIVELY guarding, and Emerl just got the gift of handmedown.

    • @gizoginjr
      @gizoginjr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It’s even weirder than that. If you unlock the unique “OHKO” moves for Emerl’s specials, they’re not always “special” attacks either. Sonic’s OHKO starts with a string mimicking Sonic’s B-combo, and it ends with his grounded SHOT. The only part of this multi-move string that actually counts as a special move is the projectile from that very last hit, so everything before that ignores the opponent’s guard choice entirely.

  • @rpzamer1218
    @rpzamer1218 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    i accidentally did (most of) this as a kid, because i didn't know how to customize emerl, so i was stuck with his crap start moves. you have no idea how unfair i thought it was when he was the final boss and was way stronger than when i used him

  • @future34andpast
    @future34andpast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Its cool to see a sonic battle challenge. We need more challenges with underrated games like this

    • @sonicrashyugioh
      @sonicrashyugioh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Challenge? we play this way because nobody say how change moves.

    • @future34andpast
      @future34andpast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@sonicrashyugioh If you had read the text then multiple times in sonic's story you are reminded that you can change emerls moves with the R button

  • @Reluxthelegend
    @Reluxthelegend 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    13:45, you can justz exit the battle and it will count as you evading her for 5 min, no need to do that battle.

    • @___________0Z0X
      @___________0Z0X 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Seriously? That’s hilarious!

    • @Reluxthelegend
      @Reluxthelegend 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@___________0Z0X Yup. And the funny thing is that we don't know if that is an oversight or an easter egg because you "escaped her"

    • @connorburris4846
      @connorburris4846 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      he jus left.

  • @calemr
    @calemr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I've been playing Dark Souls and Sonic Battle for over a decade each.
    And I only just noticed Club Rouge's central bumper looks like Solaire's shield.

  • @imakegachaclubvideos6323
    @imakegachaclubvideos6323 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    The reason why sometimes enemies block specials in the air is because when you're choosing your special, the one that isn't chosen becomes an auto block for that special. So if you didn't choose POW, then you will auto block every POW special no matter what. What's interesting, though, is how you can fool the system. Namely with Emerl's and Sonic's ground shot. Because it's a rip-off of Sonic's, it runs on the same mechanics, and it just so happens that what the auto guard blocks is everything after the energy wave from the shot is generated. It doesn't consider anything else as part of the special attack. Which means that when Emerl and Sonic use their ground shot and attacks an enemy the first couple frames of the attack where they get in a spin ball and is about to release an energy wave (that doesn't exist in Emerl's case) doesn't get auto blocked. But because it's still part of the special attack animation, while the auto guard ignores it, the one hit K.O special bar doesn't. It sees it as part of the attack and thus kills the enemy in one hit even though the auto block should protect them.

  • @user-jr6es1bo6f
    @user-jr6es1bo6f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I'm pretty sure rouge doesn't lie about special moves(I remember her stopping battle in regular playthrough), maybe devs took pity and don't consider default emerl specials as specials?

    • @thelastgogeta
      @thelastgogeta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Maybe it was a mistranslation, version specific or alternatively only custom specials are counted.

    • @blueeyesmew
      @blueeyesmew 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Emerl's specials don't get counted as specials due to lacking certain components. On the other hand I think some ULT non-specials can cause you to fail the fight due to having special components.

  • @thejurpleflurple5527
    @thejurpleflurple5527 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I actually kind of did this as a kid, unintentionally. I knew I could customize Emerl but I didn't know you could tab over to edit his attacks, so all I did was edit his first tab (movement, jump, guard, etc.) and thought that was just how the game was. I ended up figuring out that Emerl's default ground shot attack can actually KO an opponent in 4 hits and it never counted as a special move. This was how I beat the whole game, with just that one ground shot attack over and over. XD

    • @sonicrashyugioh
      @sonicrashyugioh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me too but no upgrade.

    • @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799
      @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh man are you me? I never saw the second page+ either so ground shot was my go to

  • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
    @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Chaos and pain
    Edit: emerl apparently has Marth range from melee

  • @AndresinReal
    @AndresinReal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    20:10 They don't block Emerl's set move because they need an explosion to block it. Same reason why Sonic's (and by extension Emerl's) first hit of their shot attack can hit the opponents but they block the second one.
    Also, you had to look up Emerl's (and by extension Sonic) infinite crit attack exploit, where you use their air shot and just before sending the wave you hit the ground. Like that, you insta kill the opponent and keep the crit meter. Would have made the battles go much easier and with much less planning and strategy making, all down to execution. (Strategy taken from a Speedrun)

  • @Eselwill
    @Eselwill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Sonic Battle posting, instantly subbing

  • @jampinjax9194
    @jampinjax9194 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Finally is someone mad enough to try this insane thing. I love Sonic Battle, but boy do I have some problem with pacing and the goddamn grinding.
    Sega please make a remake of this game

  • @Dr.Maggothead
    @Dr.Maggothead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    As someone who's never really played somic games your videos are a great way to find out about sonic games existing

    • @mawdewile
      @mawdewile  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Funny you mention that. I showed this to my older brother and his friends, half of them never knew this game existed

  • @StarshadowMelody
    @StarshadowMelody 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Yeah Base Emerl's specials _Literally Do Not Count As Specials_ except for the ohko charge mechanic. I thought base Ground Set was flat-out Broken when I was younger. If you used a proper special from an actual character in the 10ko Rouge fight, it'd end as properly implied.

  • @kaplooeygames8515
    @kaplooeygames8515 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Rouge really tried hitting you with a gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss, huh?

  • @c1oudsky
    @c1oudsky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "he needs to be himself" dude his starter skillset is malformed capture of sonic lol

  • @Dragynn5
    @Dragynn5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ah yes, one of the first pieces of media to make me physically cry. A favorite.
    ...I've missed you, Emerl.

  • @avasam06
    @avasam06 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    12:22 If you quit the fight, Rouge thinks you've succesfully evaded her for the entire fight
    Fun fact about cosmetic skills: the E-102/Gamma stance actually makes you explode
    The reason some specials are blocked midair is because opponents chose that category as their 3rd (ie block special). Killing a COM with a special will have 'em switch to it as their defensive to block you. HOWEVER Emerl has at least 1 nerfed special (maybe 2 iirc) that don't even trigger the autoblock!!

  • @alexlee4154
    @alexlee4154 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'd like to thank you for undertaking questions that are both concievably possible while also being difficult enough that it is genuinely uncertain as to whether you'll succees

  • @pokerang007
    @pokerang007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The thing about blocking specials is that whenever you equip your specials, you choose 1 to be immune to. That's why some cpus blocked your specials in the air.

  • @galaxyvanila9769
    @galaxyvanila9769 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    22:27 the heartattack would be if you had any special that did an explosion/projectile it only stops you from those attacks. Funny enough if you use rouge special kick I think it wont count which is an oof.

  • @nelsons.98
    @nelsons.98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I did this when I was a child because I didn't understand how to update Our robot boy 😂. I used mostly all of these strategies back in the day, thank you for reminding me of this part of my childhood

  • @emred4653
    @emred4653 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This game was my favourite when i was younger. Quite unique and fun game, wish they made a sequel or remaster it in newer consoles

  • @Abdod
    @Abdod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    MVP: Elevated Surface

  • @Kiezly
    @Kiezly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    im so glad you did this video. this game is so massively underrated and under talked about.
    this is still on my top 5 sonic games of all time, such a shame people dont acknowledge it.
    i partly blame sega for not porting it to modern hardware and platforms just like with a vast majority of other sonic games.

    • @___________0Z0X
      @___________0Z0X 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ports of the GBA Sonic games would be awesome.

    • @Pk_Hisui
      @Pk_Hisui 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People don't talk about it because the gameplay isn't so great. The only thing people ever bring up about the game are the story and art

    • @Kiezly
      @Kiezly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pk_Hisui gameplay is fun and simple imo. most fighting games have lots of complicated button combos. only flaw with this games gameplay is that its too easy to spam special moves with R button, and the storymode has too much grinding and padding.

    • @Pk_Hisui
      @Pk_Hisui 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Kiezly For me at least it feels a bit too simple. Sonic the fighters feels like it reaches a better balance. I get that the complexity of most fighting games can scare some people away but there still needs to be enough of it so that there's room for player growth and expression. There's a reason why sonic the fighters managed to build a competitive community while battle remains mostly ignored

    • @Kiezly
      @Kiezly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pk_Hisui maybe someone should make a overhaul mod for Battle to make it cometitive like Fighters? idk. to me it was a beat em up game not a competitive game. its a casual party game not a serious game. i see it as a beginners fighting game like how Mario RPG was designed for people who never played an RPG before

  • @SonicEndouRed
    @SonicEndouRed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! (ps if you need challenge ideas, I recommend beating sonic forces with the least amount of rings possible, it is HELL trying to avoid some of the rings)

  • @Cyrukyen_Backup
    @Cyrukyen_Backup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I absolutely loved this game, i grew up on flashgames and the sprites just make me so happy to see. Also you have such a cute voice and i hope you get told that often!
    For a name you should totes do Maudes Marauders and do a sonic chronicles video lol

    • @bestaround3323
      @bestaround3323 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is so weird seeing all these sprits from the fan games in an official game

  • @Antifrost
    @Antifrost 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I loved Sonic Battle back when I played it as a kid, but I remembered it being way harder than you made it look, even with your challenge in mind. Maybe I just didn't have a solid grasp of its mechanics, or the mind to take advantage of the more overpowered moves. There's a lot of trivia I remember about this game, but surprisingly most of it wouldn't have helped with this run, especially with the rule of not using special moves with the other characters. For example I think there's a mechanic where your opponent will be set to block the last special you hit them with when they respawn, but other comments have already pointed out that Emerl's stubby specials barely count as specials and would ignore that rule.

  • @creechieuihana
    @creechieuihana 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for showing me Emerl, he is my new favorite robo baby and I love him very much.

  • @DarkShadowOblivion
    @DarkShadowOblivion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So, the thing about Emerl's base specials is that they're incomplete versions of Sonic's Specials, everyone knows that.
    The reason you were probably able to get away with using them so much is because Sonic's Shot and Grounded Set Specials have two components: The drop, and the actual projectile/bomb. Even on Sonic, the drop component (Where he's revved up or flicking his wrist to drop the bomb) has an active hitbox which functions bizarrely. They're simultaneously considered as both Normals and Specials, because the game will treat them as normals for 99% of instances, but they can still become Oneshots with the Super Meter. Since Emerl's copies don't have the actual projectile/explosive, they exploit the system just by being incomplete. The only other moves in the game that have this kind of property are most hits of Emerl's unique Combo Specials (The ones where he'll use one character's jab combos in a turbo loop before ending on one of their finishers/specials)

  • @eankey1923
    @eankey1923 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:14
    Also if you get launched by another character but hold the d-pad in the opposite direction, if you hit a wall you will also charge it that way as well.

  • @benpopalisky1168
    @benpopalisky1168 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you put a Sonic video up, I will immediately watch it no matter what I am doing.

  • @goofygoober779
    @goofygoober779 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am glad you explained all of the mechanics so well, many other creators did not do that for this game.

  • @TripleZ3ro
    @TripleZ3ro หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First time I played I wasn't aware that you had to equip the abilities, so I was actually doing this challenge thinking that's how I was supposed to play

  • @Logan-tinyplanetss
    @Logan-tinyplanetss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was a super fun video (despite it reminding me how exhausting battle has been for a non-gamer like me) the fact that you could do it with zero upgrades is motivational haha!! and just really well-composed video as well. really enjoyable!

  • @DTFeeh
    @DTFeeh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is awesome! I always hoped I would find something like this!
    Back then I never learned about customization until my second run, so for the first I actually beat the game with mint emerl 😂😂😂
    I remember abusing the ground shots and air pows a lot, and how utterly try hard the battle against sonic and shadow was, not to mention final boss eggman.
    Great vid! Hope to see more of your channel! ❤

  • @karinyupinyan5754
    @karinyupinyan5754 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I always wondered if you could do this myself, but I never tried it myself. Interesting challenge topic man!

  • @IfYouInsist
    @IfYouInsist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Been wanting to revisit this game but this is even better actually. All the mechanics went over my child brain.

  • @jaysonata3211
    @jaysonata3211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aw, I friggin loved this game! Mad excited to watch this!

  • @helfire14
    @helfire14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You're kidding, Sonic Battle too? I love this game.
    I unintentionally did this challenge back when I was a kid, sort of. I didn't know you could swap pages in the move menu for years, so I only changed movement and defensive options, lol
    Edit: Through my experience of doing this, I can tell you that Emerl's shot and bomb moves are actually pretty busted. Sure, they don't really...shoot, anything, but the resulting spike ball or jazz hands smack cannot be blocked by an opponent, even if they select shot or bomb as their block special. Which means, you can farm instant kills on those all you like by healing during downtime, since healing raises the charge bar even if you're not restoring health with it. I believe the only line of specials that the opponent can block automatically on Emerl are his power specials. I have fond memories of using electric jazz hands on my enemies back in the day, lol
    Edit edit: It's why you were able to use those moves in Rouge's "don't use special moves" challenge, because the game apparently doesn't consider them to be special moves, despite the fact you can get instant kills with them. Really wierd.

    • @___________0Z0X
      @___________0Z0X 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, the computer rarely blocks. Those moves could be blocked manually, but the computer never will block them.

    • @helfire14
      @helfire14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@___________0Z0X Doesn't block special moves, for sure. I've found that they can be extremely block happy on certain basic attack strings, heavy attacks and upper attacks, though.

    • @___________0Z0X
      @___________0Z0X 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@helfire14 absolutely. I guess the devs thought that auto block would save them from most specials.

  • @Triff3599
    @Triff3599 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is a certified Club Rouge classic

  • @FrenzyFanboy
    @FrenzyFanboy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When we needed him the most, he finally uploaded this year (with a banger sonic battle challenge).

  • @MatasticMatt
    @MatasticMatt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aye I loooooved this Shiz man I’m enjoyin the new year for sure big dog. Very entertaining big do VERY. Entertaining.

  • @MatasticMatt
    @MatasticMatt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sure as hell do work super hard on these videos. BIG SUB UP IN THIS BIZ BANANA JIZ

  • @danbrandon5724
    @danbrandon5724 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really love these challenge videos, keep going with them please!:)

  • @StarshadowMelody
    @StarshadowMelody 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "We need to find a winning strategy and fast."
    Ah, the traditional Episode Sonic experience.

  • @AnimateMii
    @AnimateMii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think we need a picture of Emerl all busted up with no upgrades, facing EVERY character in Sonic Battle by himself. Very epic.

  • @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799
    @billclintonsmagicbeefarm5799 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually did this as a kid because I was an idiot. When customizing Emerl, you're supposed to press the R button or whatever to go to the next page of things to customize, which I somehow never found. So I went through the entire game spamming the shitty version of Sonic's shot special. Good times

  • @theophilecaceres5855
    @theophilecaceres5855 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The balance and jank of this game was more present than i remembered.

  • @garthshark119
    @garthshark119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God I wish this game got more attention, so much of my childhood was spent playing it and going through the story over and over again

  • @Kiezly
    @Kiezly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Funny thing about this video it reminds me of a very same situation I was in when I first played this game! I got an English copy of it before I learned how to speak English so I was skipping all the dialogue and just playing all the fights without any upgrades just like your challenge video here!!! 😂 it wasn’t until like halfway through the entire game when I accidentally pressed one of the shoulder buttons to activate the skill menu and that’s when I was like what the hell is this? I felt like I discovered a secret. 😂

  • @Kyle_Spivis
    @Kyle_Spivis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heck yeah it’s Mawde! hope you doing well thanks for the video!

  • @Romashka_Sov
    @Romashka_Sov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yay, someone finally did this challenge!
    Before watching: during my childhood i was really bad in English, so i always skipped the part when it says "press R when on the map to change Emerl's skills". So, with that the furthest i could get was the middle of Amy's story, that part when you need to score 5/10 points with 2 opponents before they score the goal. And i somehow did 5 points, but stuck on 10, could not continue (i did not know how to save my progress) and gave up. Years later when i knew English much better i attempted it again and that's when i knew how i messed up in past. Turns out Amy's story was the hardest one and if i could beat it i probably could finish the game back then

  • @xaius4348
    @xaius4348 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Friggin love this game.
    I mainly remember the final boss being brutally difficult when I was younger. Drop one combo and just get chained to death repeatedly.

  • @Sergo6971
    @Sergo6971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man your channel has grown a lot the past 2 years. I have been here since the shadow video and I can say that you have improved a lot and probably will continue to improve.

    • @mawdewile
      @mawdewile  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really am glad to hear feedback like this. Thanks dog

  • @colejumper7504
    @colejumper7504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reason gamma could block specials sometimes is determimed when they respawn. When selecting your specials, the third one you pick is actually the one you're immune to. NPCs do this as well, giving a rock paper scissors dynamic to the game.

  • @aaaamine
    @aaaamine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Classic Mawde Wile Banger, great vid man

  • @victoralanhernandez6894
    @victoralanhernandez6894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The goat is back with 2 videos i can enjoy lets go

  • @clawcakes2
    @clawcakes2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    god i wish i had 2 dollars to throw at you for the outro. i'm hoping and praying that by the next video it's BEAUTIFUL.

  • @canaldecasta
    @canaldecasta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic Battle content in 2024? Hell yeah.

  • @Electrosa
    @Electrosa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I ended up doing this to myself completely by accident as a kid. I only had Sonic Battle on emulator, so I had no instruction booklet, and I was a dumb kid so I just never figured out how to actually give Emerl all of these moves I was earning. Every battle with him was a godawful chip damage fest and I was constantly like "why is this character so bad? what is the point here?"
    Glad to see I'm not alone in my suffering.

  • @KhanhTheLearner
    @KhanhTheLearner 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are some other unexplained mechanic in the game, too, which I only found out for myself after playing for a while. (also favorite game, btw)
    For the 3 skills, the 1st you choose is a ground power, the 2nd is aerial, and the 3rd is auto block. Think of this as like a rock-paper-scissors game, so if your current enemy kills you with a ground shot that's nasty, you can choose Pow + Set and choose block for Shot.
    Also, some specials have a specific animation that can cause damage, like Sonic's shot, where both the wave and the spinning motion can damage you. This makes Emerl's crappy ground Shot surprisingly strong, and I abuse it to the max whenever I play as Emerl. I don't even need Sonic's wave, I just need to hit enemies with the spin.
    Another one that causes damage is also Sonic's bomb placing motion. The bomb itself explodes, like duh, but for Emerl's crappy version, he does not place down bomb, but the hand placing can still cause damage, and you can also abuse that animation to sort of stun lock.
    Also, changing style card into E-102 Gamma will let Emerl explode upon kill, dealing damage just like the original E-102.

  • @MoleBradRy
    @MoleBradRy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you beat Sonic Battle without Upgrades. Yes....Just prepare for rage when Sonic and Shadow randomly decides not to let you play.

  • @firerulezz116
    @firerulezz116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm a bit surprised you didn't mention the dash attack at the start. I vaguely recall it being very useful in the final Sonic Vs Ultimate Emerl fight.

  • @arcadejester8543
    @arcadejester8543 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this game was absolutely top tier for a gba title. from the fighting mechanics, to the storyline, it never dissapointed. it only got more fun as you played it. I wish they would make a new sonic fighting game with these kinds of mechanics but updated to todays standard of quality.

  • @terpsidance.
    @terpsidance. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Sonic Battle, for being a broken ass fight game on gba that no one else at my school played that had amazing lore and basically inspired every Newgrounds Sonic sprite animation for ten years including Super Mario bros Z

  • @LunaAlex64
    @LunaAlex64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The reason opponents can sometimes auto-block, both on the ground and in the air, is because you’re trying to use a special move type that they picked as their defense! Before you respawn at any point in a round you pick what type of special you have on the ground, what type you have in the air, and what type you’ll automatically block if someone uses that type against you, and the opponents get to pick theirs as well any time they respawn

  • @ttgb2990
    @ttgb2990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember playing this game for the first time like 2 years ago. The insane whiplash I got going from playing as Sonic to the slow, clunky, and pathetic upgrade-less Emerel is not something I’ll ever forget

    • @___________0Z0X
      @___________0Z0X 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And the satisfaction that you get from upgrading Emerl is so good.

  • @Bananazu2411
    @Bananazu2411 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the higher Patreon Tiers could be something like "Neat People Mawde found on the Internet" 😇😇

    • @mawdewile
      @mawdewile  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Im definitely using this one

  • @PaxtheDreamer
    @PaxtheDreamer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As far as Tier awards go: You can never go wrong with "You get a copy of the episode's script" or somesuch

  • @F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w
    @F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved this game. Played it a tone on my gba. It was between this and golden sun. Happy i still have the cart

  • @Pika_2974
    @Pika_2974 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "When he gets knocked up" U... UM?! Phrasing is wonderful I swear~ XD

    • @mawdewile
      @mawdewile  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m saying this to every comment that mentions that, I completely forgot that had another meaning lmao

  • @ULTRAtheCYBORG
    @ULTRAtheCYBORG 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Literally When I Was Young And Played This Game
    I Didn't Know You Could Upgrade Emerl
    So I Pretty Much Played This Game For So Long Without Upgrading Emerl-
    I Think The Furthest I Got Back Then Without Upgrades Was...Amy's Story?
    Rouge's Story?
    Either Of Those 2 I Think
    Before Eventually I Found Out About The Upgrade System
    If I Remember
    I Used To Have Emerl's Ground Special Be "Set"
    And His Aerial Special Be "Pow"

  • @prollydatboi8841
    @prollydatboi8841 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got sonic battle a little after its release when I was a kid. I was sick and my grandmother kept me home from school- she took me to toys r us after the doctors appt and she bought me it. This game became my legitimate obsession- I played it nonstop all day everyday. I miss this game, I wish they’d do something like this again 😭😭

  • @DamashiTheKaotic
    @DamashiTheKaotic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So happy to see any Sonic Battle love!

  • @stigfan35
    @stigfan35 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    with the rogue timer one...quitting the battle counts as passsing the mission.
    only know of that due to internet

  • @catthebart9108
    @catthebart9108 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is one of the sonic games I haven't played yet. It looks cool.

  • @firerulezz116
    @firerulezz116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are exceptionally good at cheesing this game

  • @TNTX23
    @TNTX23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro i genuinely last week thought would it be possible to beat the game like this and now l stumble upon this video lmao

  • @angryasian1998
    @angryasian1998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never heard or seen this game before. Now i wanna play it. A good vid and game recommendation.

    • @thelastgogeta
      @thelastgogeta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You're in for a great time. The story is amazing despite flanderising some of the cast and creating your only little buddy is far more charming here than in other games (not just picking on Sonic Forces, but yeah).
      The combat is also pretty interesting although the campaign can be a bit grindy.

  • @bonez545
    @bonez545 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just randomly recalled of this game and wow thrs content of it 1 month ago

  • @NikkuMairaski
    @NikkuMairaski 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Yas-ified” is crazy 6:18

  • @GlastanMeadowhill
    @GlastanMeadowhill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gamma's death explosion is considered a Power-type move. If you're set to block Power, you're immune to it.

  • @rafaelchavezjimenez6723
    @rafaelchavezjimenez6723 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact: You missed the Chase Gimmick.
    Inmediately After you use the launcher attack, if you double tap the direction in which the opponent flew off, your character will do a high-speed dash right to where the opponent is, and pressing B will make them do a follow-up knock down, that sends the opponent to the ground, and deals a lot of damage

  • @superbad8008
    @superbad8008 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember playing this game and giving Emerl a bunch of Chaos’ move sets because I thought it had the coolest animations.

  • @Totk_fan
    @Totk_fan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yoo a sonic battle vid!!

  • @legendaricjupiter
    @legendaricjupiter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some notes for anyone that might want to play the game:
    The special attack that is not used becomes an defense, so, for example, if you don't use bombs, they won't be able to damage you in case the enemy uses, the blocked attack also fills the special bar
    The enemy ALWAYS puts it's defensive option on the special attack that killed it last round (if your last hit was a special, you can still do most damage with specials and then finish off with a normal for a chance for it NOT to happen)
    Knuckles is a really infuriating character to use, it is the only character that moves during his jabs, but, his ground power special is a really strong punch, albeit a slow one too
    You can get to the ground faster as rouge (or with the air movement for emerl) by pressing jump
    In the Emerl chapter, you can find a building that let's you input codes, those include a special sort of attack that is a character' combo, those count as specials, but bypass the guard an enemy could use (except if the finisher is a special)