"It's not strong enough" - Steam Deck Gamers Speak Up
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2024
- Steam Deck gamers were surveyed and the results are fascinating!
Edited by @HiTechLoLife
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00:00 Survey
01:54 Performance
03:45 How did they gather data
04:59 Ownership
07:19 Storage
09:59 Q/A & Mods
11:12 Deck Usage - เกม
Thanks everyone for getting me to 75k! Like and subscribe on the road to 100k!!
Can you compare the steam deck to an i3 10100f + rx 580?
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I got the steam deck thinking I'd use it to stream from my PC then sell it later. It ended up being where I play a majority of my games. I love it
I was skeptical when I bought it but have really felt like it's the best thing to ever happen to my gaming life!
I have a ton of games I just got on random sales or humble and never played them. I have been killing that backlog thanks to the deck. Even if it can't play the latest games at launch there is still thousands of games that are still work playing.
@@n00bc0de7 same, I've been burning through a bunch of single player games
@@n00bc0de7 exactly. That backlog is finally getting some progress here too
Yeah! I love how smoothly most of the streamed games run :)
In my opinion, optimization is almost always more important than hardware. Limitations encourage creative problem solving.
If Hogwarts legacy runs close to flawlessly on the switch, then other devs are just lazy
@@bluefiredemon448 Rather than making it sound like devs are simply lazy, I think it's more constructive to say, executive decisions at many publishers and studios force devs to skimp on optimization.
@@bluefiredemon448... Hogwart's Legacy isn't even out on the Switch? What are you smoking?
Yeah yakuza 0, breath of the wild and persona 5 were some of the most celebrated games of last gen yet they were primarily made for the gen before that
@bluefiredemon448 I hate the lazy developers argument
That survey literally puts me in an opposite situation to most users then. I use my Deck primarily for cartoony/anime/indie titles which require little to no power (I played the entirety of Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal, Gris, Final Fantasy XIV, Brawlhalla, Hi-Fi Rush, and games similar to those on it) and some Switch emulation and I'm perfectly satisfied with the power of the Steam Deck. There's no way I'll put on an AAA game if I already have a PS5 and a gaming PC. I got a 64GB Steam Deck and a 512GB SD card and I have no storage issues either. I can't praise the Deck enough honestly, for my use case it's been perfect.
I was about to write my comment how I disagree with this survey but you did it for me Brother
I'll add my +1 here. I don't know about the place who published the survey or the kind of audience they have, but I certainly wasn't asked.
+1 JRPGs, Bullet Hell, Metrovania, and cozy games. For AAA games streaming via Moonlight is my go to.
I haven't had performance issues for basically any of my library, and I'm over 700 games now...
Just out of curiosity, would you haplen to know how well The Talos Principle runs on the Deck? I'm eager to get my own this holiday and i was wanting to try that one out in particular on it. Thx.
Man, Halo on the Steam Deck is an amazing experience. All the games were designed with dual analog being the primary control method, so it just feels great and runs well too.
And the deck is definitely my primary device. I'm a trucker so I'm gone all week, but when I'm home I'll find myself using it as well. The suspend feature is great for parents.
Infinite has gotten borked a few times but when it works it works really well
I agree halo on deck was amazing all but halo 4 because that game sucks and this is from a guy who never played halo before until steam deck
@@scratchos9816 eh idk
I don't like Halo 4 as Halo either but its still a really good Game. There was never a bad Halo Game
Only bad Halo-Games
@@applehazeva2739 oh i agree if it wasn't a halo game and was it's own game it'd be a great game and great start of a new IP but as a halo game something doesn't feel right
As a game developer I definitely don't find the Steam Deck to be lacking performance, the opposite is true... I am amazed over how much performance the machine has, and was stunned that I was able to run my own game in 4K ~120fps at 15W... (It's a high-res 2D game similar to ubiart games, but still. That's off the chart! I use 20+ parallax layers, over 1500 2D objects on each scene).... I actually have to use my thermally constrained Ryzen 2500U laptop to gauge performance and optimizations instead of the Steam Deck. For me it has become important to reach 6hours+ of battery life when running at 720p60fps on battery. :)
So what game did you help to devolope that works good on the SD?
20+ parallax layers OMG that nuts
@@Bag-Of-HammersI'm sure if they weren't bound by an NDA or if it were announced/released, they'd happily say so.
Indeed, its blown me away more than once with its ability to deal with 1080P on the external monitor with reasonably turned up graphics settings on so many titles and then go down to 8w power target and play those same games on battery for a long time with good enough performance on its screen. Yes I've found the odd thing that won't work that well on deck, but most games even very modern ones work great on deck at native resolution.
Man i played Cyberpunk on the Deck after the update and was blown away by the experience. Optimization goes a long way! We shouldn't always have to buy new hardware to play the newest games. Games just need to be better optimized. The steam deck is plenty capable!
You were blown away?
C'mon, I own three decks (wife, kiddo), an Ally and a Go. The Deck does not play Cyberpunk2077 well at all in comparison.
@@InitialFailure It's alot better than where it used to be. It's at least actually playable now when on a long 12hr flight. I can only speak from my experience and I had a good time. If it isn't for you, well that's fine too!
@shawng9541 I get that personal experience is anecdotal and subjective. What's not subjective is raw numbers, and it's objectively true that one of the worst ways to play Cyberpunk2077 is on a Deck.
It's awesome that you enjoyed the relative (to almost any other way to play it) sub-par experience. It is very difficult to achieve 30 FPS (stable) even now, let alone a "golden 40". If that's mind-blowing to you, fantastic, I am genuinely happy for you.
Truly, that's fantastic.
However, for those wondering if the Deck is some sort of uber device capable of playing the latest AAA titles for what an average gamer is after in regards to performance, it's arguably and almost decidedly not. Yes, optimization happens. However, Valve can only push that hardware so far while Ally and Go (hardware wise) is almost twice the horse power and nowhere near as optimized YET.
What I'm seeing more and more is mental gymnastics justifying a purchase or brand loyalty over cold hard facts. The same behavior PC enthusiasts have judged console gamers for, over years and years.
Now PC gamers get to fanboy over a console 😆 🤣 😂
@@InitialFailure I think the biggest failure is in marketing, sure people feel that Cyberpunk or other big AAA games in recent years don't run the best, but in reality Valve should push this more towards what it's really for, that being Indie games or older AA/AAA games that already run on mid tier hardware.
A Steam Deck should be your companion to your PC, you have your big, beefy PC for playing every big, graphically intense AAA game, and you have your steam deck for everything else, and you can still play that everything else on your PC.
As someone who regularly plays Cyberpunk on my 4090, why would I ever want to give up the top graphics settings for anything near a handheld anyway? I can play full 4K, with RTX and Path Tracing, so it makes no sense for me to play that on a handheld regardless of brand, but what the Steam Deck is made for, is games that I just wanna chill with sometimes, or grind on that don't demand.
Yakuza games, Persona games, and so on, I've been playing Dome Keeper, Celeste, Risk of Rain 2/Risk of Rain Returns, Dishonored 2, Days Gone, Shadow of War, Persona 5 Royal, Cult of the Lamb, and Monster Hunter World, and that's not even scratching the surface.
Out of my nearly 500 games library on steam I've spent buying and collecting and playing games on PC I've already installed nearly 100 on my steam deck, and every new sale, the Fall/Halloween and now the Christmas sale I've been looking for games that fit what the steam deck actually does, and it's been a blast. I think Valve or consumers just have to realize handhelds for the foreseeable future are and will never be a replacement for a PC, more of a companion piece you play your backlog or replay older games you fell in love with and haven't caught back up with yet.
EDIT: And I forgot to even bring up but like the video says, emulation as well, so combine every talking point above then combine it with playing nearly every retro to current gen console on the steam deck practically flawlessly (Only the Switch being a little subpar depending on what game you're playing, and I haven't tested PS3/Xbox 360) I have practically every SNES/N64/GBA and that era on my deck, combined with select games from PS1/PS2 that I love all on my deck as well, boosting it even further for me.
Can we all acknowledge that this man literally just predicted the oled priced like spot on down to them making a 1tb version like holy smokes
And that there would be a different color option!
I dont have a Steam Deck but as a Linux gamer its in my best interest for this console to be a massive hit so more games are supported in Linux. Great video btw!
You should buy a steam deck you will love it
@@appropriate-channelname3049 While I agree its good lets not assume they can just afford to buy yet another computer or have any use for what is primarily a mobile gaming platform. Spend the money with Valve and play the games you want on the machine you already have is good too!
That said I use my deck as the reference manual device a great deal as it needs less desk space than a laptop, even without a real keyboard it often (but not always) being such a high performance portable power house has become the machine I reach for when I'm leaving my desk but need a computer (though as my laptop is well over a decade old toughbook it does have a big performance advantage).
only way to do that is to buy one. i'm considering a 3rd & have gotten the interest of some family members by just putting it in their hands.
@@appropriate-channelname3049 I was in the same boat and ended up getting an oled deck purely because of how happy I was about what valve has done for linux gaming.
I like the portability of the oled deck overall.
I'm a Linux gamer too, I love Valve/Steam for what they did for Linux gaming. I got the Steam Deck Oled, mainly to support their efforts and I'm blown away by how awesome it is. I use it way more than expected. I now have a Linux-running portable console that works great.
When I got my deck I never thought of it as the next gen console, but always thought of it like a device that has a library of thousands of games that have been released up until now where a VAST majority of those in my library run flawlessly on it.
Honestly, if you think back to the PSP & Vita days where it felt like a portable release was always about 5 years behind the console releases, and usually pretty heavily compromised at that.
Steam Deck feels like now all of a sudden you have day & date with the consoles practically, and anything that scales down to the Series S will usually work well enough on Steam Deck. I don't expect this to be the case for the whole console gen, but incredibly even Alan Wake has been made to run acceptably on it.
CPU limitations being the biggest limiting factor, but honestly incredible otherwise as you can throw absolutely anything from the previous console gen at it. And if Steam Deck 2 comes out in 2025/6 with performance comparable to a PS5 then that'll just be an incredible time for everyone.
@@InnuendoXPI wouldn't go THAT far - the Series S, while by far the weakest of the modern consoles is still CONSIDERABLY more powerful than the Steam Deck - the Steam Deck is, at least where its APU/GPU is concerned, about equivalent to a PS4. I'm sure there are quite a few games that work reasonably well on Series S that will not run on the Deck. But then, that's the difference between mobile vs. console hardware, one has stricter heat/power/PCB size restrictions than the other.
@@yellowblanka6058 I never said the deck was as powerful as the S (though the APU is WAY more powerful than a PS4), I said games which scale down to the S so far, have usually found a way to scale to the deck as well. That I didn't expect this for every game, but so far most do, including Alan Wake & Starfield.
Keep in mind the difference in target resolution, the deck has a 1MP screen, while the S is targeting 1080p, or 2MP, so double. Which means model & texture detail can be scaled even lower without a perceptible difference in quality.
It also has more user control in further settings reductions, ability to set more intermediary locked framerates when 30fps simply won't do like a stable 40 or 45fps.
Sure I don't expect GTA VI to run on the deck, but the games which don't work so far have been more due to platform limitations such as anticheat not playing ball with Proton, than not running in a playable state after some tweaking.
The 4 Zen 2 cores being slower is its biggest hard limit & games hitting the CPU end to be 30FPS limited on the main consoles where graphics reductions couldn't make them break 45, will probably not run on the deck. But again, no significant examples of that so far.
Again my point isn't that it can do everything the consoles can, it's that unless there's a fundamental base hardware performance reason that it can't, then it can if a PC port exists, and for most games, that's the case. As opposed to the Nintendo Switch Vs the PS4 where you're often waiting a year or more for the port and it's much more compromised when it arrives.
Yes, exactly. It runs basically everything from last gen and prior to that. So, it's fantastic for emulation, indy games, and AAA from last gen and before. Moreover, it CAN run most AAA games from the current gen. It might not be at the quality or framerate you would ideally want, but it usually can be done. And that is amazing to me.
Now, not every AAA game is going to run at a quality level I find to be worth it. But that's okay. It's why I own a powerful desktop PC. The Steam Deck is incredible for running all my AAA games from generations past, thousands of amazing indy games, and a nearly endless world of emulation. Plus, it can run many current gen AAA games if I'm really desperate to keep playing certain of them while away from the house. That all adds up to one incredible handheld gaming device.
If I were asked if I were limited by my PCs performance I would say yes, and it has a 3070 and a new i7 in it. All hardware is limited in some way. Handheld platforms are limited by a lot more things, thermal management and battery capacity mostly. You have to accept trade-offs to be able to play PC games at all on a handheld platform.
Yep even on the best PC money can buy baldur's gate 3 is still cpu limited in act 3
Finally a non emotional argument. Logic is in short supply these days
That's like saying every car is limited because trains regularly go 150 mph. You're not answering the correct question are YOU limited in your use of cars, although funnily enough you reach the correct answer. Walkability issues is a thing that GENUINELY limites you inside the car or not, and running a modern game is like trying to get out of the suburbia without a car.
@@jeveritt8398I'm running it on a rig with a 4090 and 13900k and that is no longer the case. There's no stutters or performance loss now
I’ve beaten armored core 6 and elden ring multiple times already on my steam deck with minimal issues and they look fantastic for a handheld it really just comes down to how optimized the games are.
Same, DS3, NMS, Elden Ring, Armored Core, MGS5 and Cyberpunk have been running absolutely amazingly well. I can't even believe they are even in a playable state for a portable system. I feel that people who are complaining don't really understand just how powerful the deck truly is for its size and price.
@@plank8989 absolutely for a 400 dollar entry and its upgrade friendly you really can’t go wrong with the deck
720p AC6 on Medium Setting is how I play PVP on the Deck. It still hits a surprisingly smooth and stable 60fps on those settings.
No one will be able to target handhelds if they launch a revision every year or 2. Let alone, if they make a refresh of the deck with better hardware for playing games (excluding connectivity), I will be done buying handhelds if it comes before the next 2 or 3 years.
I agree, the deck is the perfect opportunity for us gamers to force game developers to optimize their games rather than requiring more power from PC components each year, hope Valve keeps on this track of not delivering a new console in a couple of years
They have no intention of doing so. If I had to guess, they won't truly revise the important hardware for another 3 years.
@@Tn5421Me I just hope the market share keeps growing forcing it to be a bigger target. To me, I think the path forward for all of this is the competition finding a way to subsidize the consoles with their own stores or partners. That will drive the tech and growth in the handheld market share.
Since getting the SD, I haven't touched my switch and have temptations of selling my jailbreak version ( for backing up my legit copies ) and my non. They're useless to me except the knowledge the prices will likely go up
Steam deck is insanely powerful.
But as someone who does check the verified score, it doesn't help, since most of the older games I want to play don't haave the score anyway.
Try Protondb instead
You can also check with protondb to see how that game runs.
Decky loader and the Proton DB plug-in are huge.
Yeah! I do enjoy your channel and don't have a Steam Deck [yet].
The popularity of the deck and the progress Valve helped on the linux gaming front, made me more comfortable to begin migrating to Linux as my main OS for daily use. And so far, all of my windows games on my Steam library play about as well as they do on windows using Proton on my Linux KDE Plasma.
Thank you! And that's really neat about how the Linux progress has made you comfortable to make the switch. The progress has definitely been incredible.
Lol i also loved watching his channel before I bought one, he's the one who pulled me in.
SteamOS feels like the first major step in adopting Linux as a daily driver. Windows is my go to for my job as a developer and for gaming, the only thing holding me from going to Linux is compatability and lack of drivers.
@@brandonz404 Yeah I am on that same part of the transition XD as a Dev am still bound to the IDEs that work only in other OSes, and drivers are still a major headache... This weekend my wifi adapter stopped working on Linux out of nowhere. I boot over to Windows and it's fine XD But am hopeful to keep working at it to be true 100% daily driver. Even if my dev work still needs to be done elsewhere.
Great video. Very interesting. You addressed the methodology of the data collection. And a huge, huge thanks for not putting an ad right at the beginning. Can’t really express how much I appreciated that!
I'm happy with mine as I mainly play indies. I'm an old school gamer, so I tend to get the classic collections, retro style indies, and the only current AAA game I cared for was SF6 which the SD handles much better than a PS4, so I'm golden on that.
it might be a generation thing, younger ppl buying the steam deck thinking they can run any 2023 AAA game without any flaws, having no clue how games work & how their own hardware work. Others already kinda proofed it that pc - shop content creators showed what other ppl are buying - its mostly the worst components choices expecting to run any game at max settings while they want it as cheap as possible & then complain to them why it performs so badly
@@user-uu9up5fe5t Yeah, i'll always try running my fancy new AAA game on it.
AC Mirage for example, is handled very well. A bit loud obviously but im impressed this thing can handle it.
But are people really, *really* expecting a handheld to play AAA graphical games flawlessly?
It's a handheld cooled by a small fan at the end of the day. That's just not good thinking
@@user-uu9up5fe5t yep, especially when Valve right out of the gate said that the purpose was to make your library playable at 720p, meaning games that were already put at that point. Still impressive it can handle big games decently though
@@Jandro1083They have a video from 4 months ago that says “newest AAA games” but ok bud.
@@GoodPie-kq2yb taking about when it released and still, they’re not lying. Starfield is playable.
I feel that the power is there. Games just to be better optimized. I primarily use my Deck to continue playing the games that I have on my PC. Love gaming on the go.
Steam Deck OS was actually a huge plus for me over Windows. Yes, compatibility isn’t obviously as good but performance isn’t significantly worse and it’s a lot less frustrating to live with having had a full day of working with Windows. I can forget it is a computer and just use it as a console.
Man, if I can just tell everyone how I'm so happy with my steam deck. I can barely game on my PC because I always travel for work. I sold my PC and now plays with my steam deck full time. I can just use it anywhere! in coffee shops, airport, airplane, during lunch breaks. it has been awesome for me
The Steamdeck is both my main gaming platform and my home PC. Not having to deal with MS bloatware has been amazing and I don't think I could go back.
Shooters was one of the biggest factors of why I wanted to get a deck (because gyro made me fall in love with themand I knew steam input would give that). I didn't expect to adopt a gyro + trackpad playstyle when I first got my deck but shouldn't have been surprised since I do have history with mobile shooters, which translates perfectly (also I love rouch menus, they're so great).
I started using a flick stick + gyro setup and its now really hard for me to play shooters on different consoles that dont support that. Feels very slow and inaccurate 😂
First tried motion aim on the Wii with metroid and Pikmin, loved it. Loved it even more with Splatoon on Wii U. So glad Valve puts such an effort to give wide control customization options. Absolutely love the trackpads as well, just like I did on the steam controller. Though just like the steam controller, I find the left trackpad a little clunky to use, but still great the option is there. You can even use the steam deck on your PC as a controller and it acts as a steam controller with more buttons, it’s amazing
I'm sure other people knew this already but I accidentally stumbled on the fact that you can hot swap SD cards, and I had two 1TB SD cards from my DSLR cameras, so I repurposed those for games and have had no problems playing anything I want to. Load times are still snappy and responsive and super fast.
I was one of those viewers who have been watching your channel for months without owning a steam deck. I only ordered mine a few weeks ago and have been loving it. Thanks for the amazing channel
So happy for you! Congrats on hitting 75K!
Another great video, I have had a SD for over 6 months now and I feel pretty much exactly the way the survey went. I have 20 hours on Starfield on just the deck, but that was a heavily modified setup I had to do myself and while I enjoyed it lots I definitely feel it was a lot of effort and not the streamlined console experience that Steam wants. The majority of my deck gaming is switch/3ds/other emulated devices and aside from a couple (tears of the kingdom) they all run amazingly well.
Starfield has just problems with oprimization
Starfield is the worst example for this, it's already a horribly optimized game that's locked at 30fps even on my Xbox series x.... try almost any other triple a game.... they all run better than starfield...😊
It appears that some people are criminally underrating SteamOS, for me it was one of the pros and certainly not a con
I agree, really it only seems an issue for people that just play online shooters due to anti-cheap, but that's a genre I never play, so to me Steam OS is awesome and really handhelds like the Asus Ally and Legion Go running Windows is why I'm not really interested in them, heck I've love to be able to replace Windows on my desktop at some point in the future and ditch Windows entirely.
I was one of the people that watched your videos when I didn't have a deck. I have one now and I love it. I use when I want to relax in the living room but play some games. I for the life of me cannot seem to get the hang of using gyro. Currently playing Brotato on it and having a blast.
I think FSR3 and Frame Gen may change the perception of power a bit. Many folks go on what they "hear"; and the buzz-word is "60 FPS" in conversations. So when we're getting that, then the perception of performance and how close it is to what someone feels they need/want may change a bit.
they should make it a prerequisite of purchasing a steam deck, to show you what to expect from AAA games (~1-2 hours of playtime before needing a charge and not the best graphics) and Indie games (much longer play sessions, maybe more willing to optimize specifically for the deck). they're categories for "works great", "playable" and "*shrug*" are ok guidelines, but could be better. just, manage new buyers expectations. you won't be playing much on high quality settings and getting hours of battery life.
Love my Steam Deck but you do have to understand its limitations. I mainly use mine for smaller indie titles so don't run in to these big AAA problems. I have recently also pre-ordered a Lenovo Legion Go as I want a decent Windows handheld as well, and the much bigger screen really locked it in for me. Will be keeping my deck though.
Good for you but some people want to play AAA games.
@@GoodPie-kq2ybThey have bad taste
@@GoodPie-kq2yb Ok and those people can get a different device?
Not just indie games, but also older games and emulation work very well on the Steam Deck. It was hilarious to fire up Fallout 4 again and realize it literally looks better than Starfield on the Steam Deck.
@@seeibe Its advertised as being able to play new AAA games. Just because you only play indie games on it doesn’t mean that’s its only purpose. Why didn’t you buy a switch?
I'm one of those people who have been watching you for about a year and don't have a Steam Deck. You do your due diligence and cover just about every facet of handhelds with top notch production value. I watch a lot of other people in the handheld space and usually don't get the same level of information from watching 3 different videos. I ultimately started watching to see if the Deck was worth buying and for my use-case it made sense for me to wait for more powerful units given how much I hate my Switch with it's very underwhelming hardware.
I can never get enough of these stat breakdowns either, it's so fascinating to see how everyone is using these handhelds.
You asked about shooters, most of my playtime had been Battlefront II ,then Titanfall 2 using trackpads in trackball mode and a little bit if gyro for small adjustments
It’s about managing expectations
You cannot expect a handheld PC give you 60fps on a game that’s struggling on mid range PCs
I have a 4070 and even that can’t run Starfield above 60fps everywhere
Most places I can easily get 80, sometimes even 180 fps, but land on Akila City or New Atlantis and you’re looking at 45 fps at best
I own both the Steam Deck and the ROG Ally. I play all verified games on the Steam Deck because of the optimization, and everything else on my Ally. Absolutely love both of my devices.
Do you play at pc or console anymore?
@pcigrock5874 I rarely have time to play my pc, but when I do, it's nice to be able to pick up where I left off in a game that has a cloud save option. I don't think they can fully replace my PC, simply because there's a couple games that would just be better on a rig.
Not a steam deck owner but still love your channel! My favorite place to follow along on steamdeck/handheld news and updates for when I eventually pull the trigger to buy one. Happy to see you grow from 5k views to over 100k views, hope you hit the 100k milestone soon 😊🎉
I was unsure too but then bought the 64gb Steam Deck with an SD card. Played Chivalry 2 online, pirated a Nintendo game, then I streamed UFC 299 all just today lol. Totally worth it in my opinion
I don't have a steam deck but I'm planning to buy one on december. Does opening the deck and replacing the ssd to a higher storage void warranty?
Lucky for me I've never been a PC gamer bar Half-Life and MDK back in the day so I'm more than happy with the Deck's performance and it literally has an infinite lifespan for me.
It's difficult because I really want to play AAA games even if they run at 30 fps on all low. But sometimes even that is asking too much from the system, you'll get frame drops, my only hope is that supporting the system and the new Switch will force developers to add more support for slower hardware.
Bro bought a steam deck thing it was gonna be a 5k rig
Had my deck for around 3 weeks now and I love it. I found linux to be a learning curve but with content abundant on how to do things on the deck its been an enjoyable learning experience. i have mine set up as a dual boot machine for now but given time I'm sure the library of verified games will continue to grow rapidly. my partner loves the deck cause it frees up the tv and my daughter loves it for the retro games when on long journeys.
Same. I don't own a Steam Deck but I do enjoy watching people make videos about the Steam Deck. I might get on eventually but I'm still holding on for that inevitable refresh down the road. I don't want to splurge right now only to regret it when Valve decides to have a refresh in the next couple of months.
I think it had more than enough performance for my use. I have so many games in my backlog that I have zero interest in buying any newly released titles. It runs everything I play perfectly.
The only new game I’m interested in is halo infinite, but I haven’t been able to play multiplayer due to the anti-cheat. Hope 343 gets that fixed.
You can play it if you side load windows 11
@@anthonygray6570 I know… but I don’t want to lol. Too much work, and not enough time.
@@tylerdenchuk2527 makes sense
The key in my opinion is optimization, developers have to make an effort to improve their games on the Steam Deck, sadly it looks like that only Valve is doing the hard work.
I started watching your videos before having a Steam Deck and surely part of my decision to own it was thanks to your videos. ❤
Man I wish I knew about this survey so I could have participated
I don't feel limited, if we had more performance we'd have less battery life
And I just stream games from my desktop that it can't run well
Verified status barely matters when a lot of stuff works with Proton anyway
And I play all sorts of content on my deck, but primarily switch emulation and 1-2 other games since I don't have the storage space
Never had a "performance" issue with the deck. The deck is powerful enough, they game producers should optimize to SD as it is strong enough.
Not sure why you felt the need to put performance in quotes, but the deck is all things considered, probably about as powerful as a PS4/PS4 Pro, so there are definitely going to be very new games it won't be able to run at all, but this is true of most handhelds/handheld computers. It of course has much stricter power/thermal restrictions than consoles/most PCs so that is going to severely curtail its performance potential. If you bought a Deck expecting to play PS5 ports you have very little understanding of technology/the point of the Deck.
@yellowblanka6058 because I had othwr issues like stability issues.
As I said in my original message, power wise, steamdeck is a beast for a portable.
I bought my steam deck specifically to play BG3. I'm curently in act 3 and having no issues. I have my FPS locked at 30, I use the old fan curve, and my graphic settings range between medium and ultra.
i'm a casual gamer. i used to have a gaming laptop and it just got old. switched to a mac for work, but needed something. the steam deck has been a perfect fit. do some side scrollers for an hour or so to just get away from work and my desk. if im lucky, maybe spend a few hours playing something like chained echoes which plays perfectly on the deck. it's been a solid purchase and its nice that every game isnt $60.
One of the best ways to get better performance on bigger games. Is to go to the steam options and lower the default resolution to 1024x768. Some people are completely new to PC, but that was the old trick to get more power of your PC by making it do less work. That and lowering graphics and shadows gets things running much better, to obvious limits of course
I watch you videos even tho i literally CAN'T buy one, since Valve doesn't sell it officially in South America. You channel is awesome, Deck is also amazing, Valve is the main source of my disappointment.
Same here in the middle east, i can't find one officially, at least not from the official website
That's sad to hear man, I can find dealers and importers where i live, but in case i have any problem with device i'm done for, no support, no technical assistance no nothing, since it's nothing official, wich make me super skeptical to closing a deal.
I'll say it's enjoyable to watch your videos about the steam deck even though I don't have one yet. I am trying to buy one next year so I'm just trying to stay in the loop with updates lol
I'm new to the Steam Deck; within the last couple of weeks. So far I've played a couple of games but I'm more about the customisation and learning about Linux in this. It's a great device.
I bought a 64GB model and not long ago dropped a cheap 512GB SSD into it. It was pretty easy and completely worth it.
Had my steam deck for a few months and got the emulator to finally work and of course I’m playing ocarina of time. I’m hooked on it
I've been playing shooters lately. Black Ops 3 for zombies, Killing Floor 2 and I just got done replaying Titanfall 2 campaign on the Steam Deck. All run quite well, including modded zombies maps on COD
I don't own a Steamdeck. The reason I watch videos like your is to find a good reason to buy it. So far I haven't found a good reason to buy one. Not because I don't want one. I would love to own one. But, yes the price is daunting. Plus it seems like I may need to upgrade it and that means an additional expense
Although I agree, I still don't pay attention to polls because of rabbit fanboys that will go on these polls just to troll..... All the Console war soldiers have made gaming Pathetic......
not rly, those polls are always 1 sided towards 1 specific side, since u ask for an opinion to the ppl that actually own or use a lot. for me i barely use my steam deck atm and never seen such poll like other games - best Assassins creed poll? only got it through my google discover, from a random site. not gonna say they are no trolls or bots but its not the majority. more like its the active user on that specific site(s) that gonna vote and u see a pattern there, like saiyng if "FanTheDeck" starts a poll here the whole survey with the same questions it will be look different in many charts.
5:25 As someone who doesn't own a steam deck, I do highly appreciate your content!
Also as someone who answered the survey, the reason I don't own a steam deck is because it's not available in my country, which wasn't an option on the survey
Sorry for being that guy, but at 5:25 , 12:22 and 15:10 , what are the names of those games? I like that you put the names of the games you show in fullscreen, but these 3 caught my eye and no title there (is the second one Halo?)
Yeah, I really need my Deck to be about 40% more powerful. That's it, 40% would literally solve all problems.
I can accept 30FPS on MANY games. but I can't accept 22FPS.
Also... that Baldur's Gate game looks Gay as hell.
Between LiS: True Colors, R&C: Rift Apart and BG3 my 64GB -> 1TB Steamdeck has gotten so many hours of love.
It brought me into being a regular user of Arch, and my poor, powerful gaming PC is relegated to PCVR only anymore
Cool video. I think you hit many points on why people love the deck, and it's few limitations. (if only it would run Half Life Alyx)
Steam deck, Valve, it's all been a really amazing experience for me to step into this system for the first time, after years of looking at gems like HalfLife 2, Sable, etc and having this huge void of feeling like I'm missing out, just because i couldn't afford/have the space to play a windows PC. They've made it all so accessible AND THEN SOME! It's starting to satisfy my emulation itch in a big way, (nearly because I'm literally walking to Office Max for my 128GB usbc disk drive).
I could make a whole video about how the steam deck is changing gaming for me and for the world at large (not all countries yet, I know). Emulation looks like an absolute breeze and I just pray that we can all continue to dive into the classics this way while the gaming industry is still able to thrive and employees are still able to get paid well for their efforts.
I personally believe that gaming will occupy a MUCH MUCH LARGER PART OF OUR LIVES moving into the future. And I also believe that Ready Player one was as accurate as the novel 1984 and that these are events that are soon to come and to be lived through. Anyway, steam stands a big chance of being a part of this future, if not one of the key companies running the show so to speak.
Does Total Rome 2 work well on Steam deck? If so, what is the fps for that game and how good are the graphics for Rome 2?
Im happy with the performance so far and would still recommend the deck because dev teams do fix software issues and os was still having system updates.
I got the 64GB model because I was on the fence of whether to get one or not. I later upgraded the SSD to 256GB for only $20. Now, a 1TB 2230 SSD costs between $68 and $90
As someone who almost exclusively plays Indie and AA titles I see the Steam Deck as a nice addition to anyone within this spectrum. AAA titles aren't really my thing, so I don't need all that much power to begin with, but any game I own that was installed ran it perfectly fine even a few that people said had frame rate issues. I am also on the side that only glances at the playability since often times the reason why a game isn't is because it isn't immediately download and play with 0 tinkering. There might be some mouse selections or have to input text of some kind. I get around this by mapping mouse movement to the right track pad and mouse left click to it's press (fully assuming that I might run into an issue where the touch screen is un-usable to advance). And either mapping a back trigger to pull up the keypad or just steam button + x. For most who can get around the settings this isn't that hard to do, guide or not.
Can you give me your list of indie + aa titles?
I think they'll do a mild update, something with the display maybe an OLED. And then improving battery life slightly and then increasing the ram speed. Also, I could possibly see Steam doing a limited release with a translucent shell. Don't hold me to this, however let's see what time will tell.
I'm one of the people that follows your channel but doesn't have a Steam Deck lol I'm just a big Linux fan and I'm hooked to Steam Deck content, considering most things apply to Linux in general too
Are we forgetting you can just have an external drive in your dock for games you only want to play on a bigger screen or KB&m?
The flexibility of the feature set on offer is crazy. I’ve never touched Linux before and I have used the deck as my pc for around a year now.
I still try to learn Linux stuff but I have never been good at syntax and whatnot.
It makes sense that the 64 GB model is growing in popularity tbh. In the early days of the Steam Deck, people were very unsure about replacing the drive. But now the drives have gotten a bit cheaper, and when you look on the subreddit, buying that model and replacing the drive is the most popular recommendation in most cases.
Buying the 64 GB model and upgrading to 1 TB was cheaper than buying the 512 GB for me, and that's accounting for the fact I had to pay extra to import from outside my region!
Guessed the stitch oled comparison perfectly lol
The thing that bugs me about "steam verified" is If you're on desktop, Steam it doesn't tell you if a game is verified or not at a glance. It's only when you're using a Steam Deck do you see the verification icons while browsing the store.
It's not very accurate so probably for the best. It was probably introduced more as a carrot for game devs to get their game working on the 'Deck, not something for users.
After watching the OLED pricing and the storage/price you mentioned damned, you were right about that!
I recently installed Far Cry 5 and was surprised to see it running at high settings, 800p, mostly stable 40 fps. It's amazing. In regards to the OS I am strongly considering ChimeraOS for my main PC to get rid of Windows.
I watched some of your videos and I no not own a steam deck. The reason for me was I was interested in this hardware and was curious what people say about it as well as its competitors.
A few days ago I bought Steam Deck OLED. So finally I will try it myself.
I don't have a SD and often following your news since I use linux and there are few youtube gaming news about it. The SD enables more linux gaming as a whole
I think to buy a SD in the next iteration mainly for a better screen or removable battery.
I'm fine. Enjoying starfield on my Steamdeck without any problems.
Hold off on updating the steamdeck APU wise for a bigger leap in performance in the furltuee.
Had to send my Steam Deck to Valve 4 times because of the Bumpers, I wish I joking. They either totally gave up on me or the button behind the bumper sort of "sunk in", making the button really hard to press.
I use the steam deck to play all my backlogs and it’s pretty great! Finally managed to finish FF13, never managed to finish to finish the game if I had to play on PC 👍🏼
It's actually Windows thats holding portable consoles back, because both the Deck and the Ally work better on Linux regarding configuration, controller + setup and UX especially for "touch displays and button pressing" - it was reported more than once that you need keyboard and mouse to fight your way through a Windows install.
Also, support for Vulkan has grown and OpenGL is a well established standard both of which are supported very well on Linux, so for there to be no DX10/DX11/DX12 is not much of a hurdle.
Windows is holding PC Gaming back. Even by just enabling these Publishers to believe that a game with anticheat components launched in Administrator mode is a good and safe practice for users.
This has always been a problem with portable consoles. Technically you could make the console more powerful, but you also have to factor in the Battery life. If people aren't complaining about one thing, its the other. They really found the sweet spot with the Deck. But a newer model would need both an upgraded APU as well as battery, which would effect the cost, and make it less consumer friendly. The Steam deck is less then 2 years old. So we shouldn't expect a Steam Deck 2 with the same price tag for at least another 2-5 years.
It surpassed my expectations. A year ago, I only bought a steam deck to play Kingdom Hearts, but i beat Cyberpunk, Starfield, Guardians of the Galaxy, FF7 RE, Elden Ring, Hogwarts, Ratchet, Crash bandicoot 4, Lies of P on it. I didn't expect all of them to work so well.
Considering how the Steam deck runs circles around its competition at lower watts I can kind of see why Valve doesn't see the performance needing to change. 10 watts or less is really where you can get lots of battery life as well as them putting official undervolt support in the bios. What I think they should be doing is trying to change gamers expectations. The steam deck was really made for 30fps gaming which console gamers have been having fun with for over a decade at this point. I used to get the hate for 30fps but I kind of lost it when I went through 2 GPU shortages without a GPU and then finally settled on getting a steam deck instead of a GPU since I always wanted a computer handheld. I've been playing Armored Core 6 which runs fine at 10 watt TDP lock 30fps high settings for about 3 hours of battery life and if I turn things down and FSR the resolution a bit I can run it at 5 watt TDP lock and get over 5 hours of battery life. I'm not playing every game but I'm not sure there's not a game the deck can't play at a 30fps yet so it technically doesn't need more power yet. More power would be great for docked play but I feel Valve took the approach of making the deck with handheld first and docked play second.
I own a Rog Ally, but only because I live in Australia and Valve never made it available officially here in Aus. If they did it would have be a day one for me. I would have loved to have had an opportunity to check it out.
Use mail forwarding company to buy in USA
I can buy it several ways here but not like we can by the Ally here. I got 5yrs warranty with it. If I by a Steam Deck through the only ways we can here, there is no warranty or anywhere I can just walk into and get it repaired. Very disheartening. Just wish the day came, that I could open up steam and find it available to order from the launcher.
Maybe if there is ever a Deck 2 we might be lucky enough to have an opportunity.
@@TH3WR417H Valve did make the deck very user-reparable though- Still stinks not to have the official support but if you are not afraid of getting in there and watching some tutorial videos I`m sure you could handle it. Good Luck
My biggest hang up on the Steamdeck is that it’s built and looked at as a SECONDARY device. I want a portable PRIMARY device. Nintendo nailed it with the Switch, Valve could have built a direct competitor, but it constantly feels like they cheaped out.
6:55 what is that game in the background?
does anyone know why my resolution got fucked up on my steam deck? its not 16:10 anymore its 16:9 and in tekken 7 and DMC 5 the black bars created by 16:9 resolution are displaying the tekken 7 menu wrong.
such a strange bug
Where did you get these statistics from? I’m fine with the price to performance.
DS and 3DS have plenty of games that can be played primarily or even fully with physical buttons. At which point the only thing that is a problem is putting two screens onto one. Many games also use the second screen just for minimap, or even a wallpaper. I don't see playing Trauma Center on SD, but DS castlevanias, Pokémon, most RPGs.... It's all fine.
To me, my deck has always been a companion device instead of my main. Latest and greatest title, I will use my PS5/XSX for that. But all in all, gaming on the deck is awesome backed up with its massive library on Steam.
theres a unique thing abt buying the steam deck in hk is that there are shops that will sell them with upgraded storage, 512gb, 1tb and 2tb.
I've been running my Deck overclocked for a while, but after the 3.4.11 update reset the BIOS settings, I haven't bothered to re-enable OCing.
While being able to boost to 3.9GHz is awesome for cutting out the 1% lows on games like _HZD,_ there are so many unoptimized titles that ask for full throttle even though they don't need it (_FFX-2_) where I find myself having to militantly set performance profiles.
The bottom line is that I'd rather have longer battery life at lower FPS than the other way around.
I mostly play older games on The Deck, think Skyrim AE, Fallout 4, Dying Light, Metro series, MineCraft JAVA, and such. I also do emulation and I play modern indie games - most recent indie title was Sea of Stars, which is an awesome game BTW! I have game libraries in all PC stores and just run those stores via SteamOS with Proton.
Dude Starfield looks damn good on it when its not dipping in frames I didn’t realize people were playing it on deck
for me, my only problem is my 64gb SteamDeck has a gritty and rough texture in the joystick area straight from the factory that makes moving forward wear down and grind the plastic and i didnt do anything about it since, even though it really sucks, its kind of a minor thing that i dont think would be worth bothering valve support over so i just live with it
I just sent mine back today. Didn't run 3/4 of my library and the games it did ran like hell.
I have played “unplayable” games with little issues on the steam deck. It’s not an all in one replacement and you still need a main pc; however, I honestly think it runs everything that it needs to great. It’s not like the steam deck is an esports machine or anything and needs a lot of frames. I’m using it for a lot of story driven, adventure, or sandbox games.
It's what kept me from pulling the trigger on it during the steam deck sale.
I got my steamdeck because my main computer is a Mac and developers do not make enough games for it currently and the steam deck was an affordable way to play my steam games without having a dedicated secondary pc. Worked out well for me.
I fall in the category as secondary device. Since I game on my laptop playing borderlands 3 then on the weekends when I'm not taking my laptop the steam deck goes with and continue where I left off.