2015 BMW 328d xDrive: Unicorns Exist, and They Aren’t Always the Greatest
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- Any enthusiast with a working monitor and a decent set of eyes knows that no combination of characteristics excites the automotively-inclined like “diesel” and “wagon.” Wrap “manual” up into that combo and you’ve got a trifecta of jalopnik-pleasing gold. In the case of this midsize 328d-which lacks a manual unfortunately-do those characteristics combine to make something truly magic? Or is it all just myth? Let’s find out!
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You just don’t get the car. I have one and it’s a torque monster. It isnt “surgy”. It’s unbelievably smooth and pulls up mountains without shifting, unlike the gas car. And 44 mpg at 80 mph. The engine makes the car and you missed the whole thing. It isn’t choked by emissions. BMW used adblue, like Mercedes, and no cheating was required. Enjoy your Mercedes with plastic seats.
Hey John, have you had to do any major repairs? I keep reading about chain failure. I’m thinking of buying one this month.
@@Javixleyva Never! Has 85k now.
@@johnhowardesq should i be concerned about the EGR recall? Will any dealer fix it or will they put up a fight?
@@JeLifeCoach Any dealer should be able to. There’s no fix yet.
@@johnhowardesq thank you for replying. Should I purchase a 2016 VN golf sportwagon or a 2014 bmw328d x drive. They are the same cost and mpg. I am concerned about the EGR…. Should I be? What would you do.
STOP BUYING CROSSOVERS 🙌🏽
Really interesting take about diesel being a "character point" in today's world. Gasoline engines have gotten so efficient, and hybrid/electric are the next big step. Diesel engines have a unique charm, but they are indeed rapidly losing its relevance among passenger cars.
I still miss my Mk4 Golf TDI
PLEASE add the iced coffee test as a standard from now on. It's VERY important to know how many Starbucks I can fit in the back of my vehicle!
Nice review, definitely an interesting car and might be desirable for folks with longer than average commutes because of the diesel MPG
In what world is the N47 "surgy??" Its far and away the smoothest 4 cylinder diesel I've ever felt. That and the N20 (the only engines this car got in the US save for the B48, which came later and is rarer) were more steps up from their preceding 6 cylinders on the E9x in both reliability and power. For engines that lost 2 cylinders compared to their predecessors, they were incredibly smooth and refined (oh and did I mention such modern amenities as electric water pumps). As for how F3x cars age, I honestly don't get the complaints. Its on par with the E91, which was industry-standard for quality, and I'd say it beats out the C-class of the same era. I think you really just don't understand this car. Its practical, its easy to use, its comfortable, and it gets 50+ miles to the gallon (which it will do on the autobahn for you Germans lucky enough to live in this things home market). It does all of that while still being fun and sporty.
Just a note, not your fault, but given its now 2022, this thing should now more than pay for itself. A gas F31 should take 91 grade gas, which basically costs the same as diesel in most US stations. This thing doubles the mpg you get with an N20. Self explanatory.
F31 diesel gets 50-60% better fuel economy, with fuel that costs less than premium, and frankly requires less maintenance… instead of spark plugs, coil packs, intake piping etc replacements as a matter of course, you jsut refill the adblue for $12 every oil change.
29-30 mpg beating on it, plus 45-49 highway at 75-80… and you can toss it around in town amd cruise the freeway… nothing like getting better mpg than a mini with the comfort and the size of a 5 series.
I own a 2015 with 60k miles black with red interior. love it
At the 10:06 mark, when comparing this car to the 328i, it's pointed out that diesel is more expensive. The gasoline equivalent of this F31 wagon, the N20 or B48 (post-LCI), both call for a minimum fuel grade of 91 octane. Are there places in the US where premium gasoline is cheaper than diesel?
8:25 = Christopher, you better hold it together. I just purchased a 328d and I cant paint to "point and squirt" that thing all over the metro area! Thanks for the review you two!
Nice vid/ Review , but next time have the camera showing the rear touch points because the it was fairly hard to understand why the USB/rear vents are so so and ect.
i have the same car minus the m sport package, Mine does have the "executive" Package though which i love the look of. But there are many issues with the cars features. For instance when parking the doors do not unlock upon turning the car off meaning that you either HAVE to press the unlock button or pull the door handles TWICE to get out. Owners of the car may not mind, but unknowing passengers will nearly rip the door handles off trying to get out. Also the Idrive system is difficult to navigate, I have the larger screen but its not touch, sometimes the blue tooth has issues such as connecting but no sound, connecting but no album cover showing on the screen. The thin run flat tires give great grip but are unforgiving on bumpy roads. The car rides pretty Hard. This car is meant to be a highway driver long haul or road trip vehicle versus something to whip around town. But my BIGGEST Problem with this car is the transmission. The car is always seemingly searching for the proper gear to be in, anyone who drives spirited needs to leave the car in sport mode to get proper gear shifts. Besides that, the car kinda jerks when you slow down perhaps to make a right turn or something and almost stop but takeoff again the car jerks down into first or the slack in the drivetrain OR the transfer case actuation may be causing it. but its SOOOOO annoying. BMW look great. they feel great, theyre safe, BUT you dont get as many features as you do in a loaded toyota. Its a prestige vehicle in my opinion. I came from a 2006 x3 m sport. i love the gas mileage of this car. i love the sound of this car. i love the look of this car, BUT the developers really could have done a few minor programming things to make the car more friendly to use.
There is an app to code the doors to unlock when the engine is turned off. I found the iDrive actually very easy to use with the joystick controls and the dedicated back key. Touch screens are all the rage but between the steering controls and the joystick, I don't spend too much time looking at the screen. Having the physical buttons and the scroll wheel is something that makes way more sense than an iOS style screen. As for the Bluetooth connectivity, I do sometimes have issues with connecting my device to the iDrive system, however, this is very rare. It is possible you simply needed a software update for your car. Finally, the album art does show up if you have an iOS device. BMW didn't support Android properly until recently. Their target market seems to be more iOS devices. In fact, you'd have better luck using a blackberry with the iDrive system than any android device simply because the implementation of Android wasn't that great until recently.
Safety for kids.
I have the same car. It is a men car. It needs to be driving properly. If you don’t squeeze it, this is not for you. Try to find Toyota in a nice color and enjoy it.
Hate to say it but I’m pretty sure this car would die after a hard day at the track. All the plastic pipes and fittings would crack or explode from the radiant heat in the engine bay, the motor may fail catastrophically due to timing chain failure ANDDD the transfer case might just grenade in the middle of a turn or when you’re hard on the throttle. It just doesn’t FEEL like a car that was ever meant to be thrown around. Rather driven at the speed limit on the highway too and from. Once you get there, get in the Toyota or the Honda and whip it around town 😂
I get down on mine at least once a week from 0-80mph and it pulls decent but it’s not so exciting that I want to keep doing it. The engine lacks the top end power to keep you pushed back in the seat, the gears are extremely short so everytime you start to get some power it shifts again. The tranny feels like it’s going to die in sport mode under full throttle. Shifting so fast in a diesel which seems unnecessary to me. Seems like it’s causing damage to the drivetrain simply to increase shift speed which might shave off like .1 .2 of a second each time? This isn’t an m car, I don’t think anyone really cares about .1 .2 of a second.
This car is the equivalent of a 25 year old girl demanding you treat her like a lady when she acts like a teenager. This car wants to be luxury sport but it’s just not. It’s more of a touring car. Great on gas, decent amount of room and looks, that’s about it. Lacks interior storage, lacks common sense sizing of storage compartments. I mean hell the owners manual barely fits into the glovebox it comes in.
That car here in europe it's called 320d 184hp
316d 116hp 2.0l
318d 143hp - 150hp facelift
320d 163hp - 184hp - 190hp facelift
325d 218hp
330d 258hp
335d 313hp
F30 - F31 2011 - 2018
This is the car everyone wants…these people clearly haven’t lived with many different cars…
Had it, loved it, sold it. Sad. Two years later, bought a e30 wagon in purple to sooth my daddy wagon ache.
Are these available in bronze/brown ?
No
Yup! Sparkling Bronze Metallic and Mojave Metallic would be the colors you're looking for.
How are you managing to find a 328d for 50k now a days? I have a luxury trim 328d sedan and I absolutely love its performance. I also only picked it up for 16k with 84 thousand miles and it runs and looks wonderful! Had it up to 38.4 mpg. Personally the review isn’t for me but you guys keep doing you stuff I suppose. Good presentation.
I don't think they got it for $50k, I think they were quoting entry level MSRP.
@@Perry_Wolf Ahh fair enough.
@@Perry_Wolf they're going for like 35k rn
Gears And Queers? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I freaking love it! I didn't realize gay dudes were into cars. 😂😂😂
Cool TWA sweater! Team MB all day Love that pano roof tho! Wish yall could've reviewed our S211 E55! Great review guys!
I dnt get 32 high way mpg on my 14 wagon. On eco most i ever seen is 27... 5 years of ownership.
I have a 2015 328 d Touring, but unlike yours, it's an Xdrive. It is also much better appointed with option packages. I think the only thing I don't have is the HK radio. The real issue with this model diesel is the EGR issues and the transfer case issue (giubo plate) issue. But those were covered under a recall/extended warranty so I think BMW owners are doing alright by BMW/NA. I love the way mine drives in the mountains - the torque is like a train.
All wagons in the US are X Drive. Non came RWD unless converted or tuned to turn off the front tranfer case.
Omg you guys are so funny. I a have a new to me 15 328 f31. Still not sure if I love it. LOL
This sounds like my wife's Electrolux EL4335B vacuum cleaner. -Uncle Laz
How am I just finding this channel 🙊
I think you're dead wrong about the N47. And since you didn't even bother to demo it w/ the paddle shifters? Fight me.
I owned F31 diesel and is the perfect car , I really really miss
Now I have facelift f30 328d also is good but not same versatile as the wagon especially when you have few kids, at same time my wife has Mercedes w212 e250 diesel which is also great car, better quality materials but infotainment is outdated compared to bmw and inferior handling
Nice review - y’all hit in some great points. Also, for just shy of $50k, gimme GPS and a backup camera when the screen’s already there! I’m sure it was a $1,900 tech package not selected 🙄 those nickel & diming Germans.
It was a tech package of some sort. I have a 2015 F31 without m sport but it has nav and backup cameras. The entertainment screen is larger than this unit too. The msrp was around 40k. Bizarre packages.
You guys(?)have no clue what this machine is capable to do. That’s a serious mid class cruiser to fly low in the autobahn (German highway). You can blast up to 240 km/h with an enormous amount of torque with a ridiculous fuel consumption. German tech which is 15 years ahead of your stuff. I own one and love it.
BMW is about performances, tech and emissions (4 cylinders instead of 6). This toy is way too big for you. Get a Toyota or Honda.
no backup camera in a 2015 bmw is crazy
Yeah I just bought mine used and that kinda pissed me off. That and no remote start. That said, I'd have to admit the grunty 2.0 L w/ paddle shifters makes me forget about that shit right quick tho.....
y r u gae?
Too bad you drove the poverty spec one. Who ever bought that one new, had just enough coin to get Msport, Estoril blue and Xenon… and that’s it.
Extended cluster, nav, hud and cold weather plus nicer interior trims a lot of difference in feature richness, and yes, that means lumbar.
and yes, it’s intentionally uninspiring in comfort, but quite nice in city driving in sport where you can use the point and shoot in traffic. Add a tune and the power and response are much better as is fuel economy!
Most 328i get terrible mileage when you are driving them aggressively in the city, while my diesel f31 Msport gets 29-30… and it’s WAY better than 40 mpg highway. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t get at least 45 and sometimes 50 on the freeway at realistic speeds, ie 75-80 mph… not 55-60.
The run flats are the major letdown on the chassis. And yes, the door tops are hard and plasticky… but they do look nice and the actual armrest on both sides is nice supple leather.
I’m considering buying one of these used. What’s your overall opinion on reliability and maintenance costs? Looking at various diesel wagons and this definitely seems the most fun to drive
The problem isn't diesel, it's BMW 4 cylinder diesels. They are the worst diesels in the world. However, the BMW inline 6 is amazing.
Gears & Queers has to be the gayest name I've ever heard........ 🙃 Anyways kidding aside, thanks for the review. I've been looking at this car pretty hard now and almost every review is basically an echo chamber of people gushing over this car. It was nice to see the opposite standpoint. All in all, I still love the car, but nice to know the quirks from someone not looking though rose colored glasses. Overall... I'm taking the first train to Massachusetts to buy that 328d that I saw lol
Cute review guys ! Diesel sucks... I'm not down for the d... but fun review... and more dirty jokes pls !!
Actually, I ran the numbers using fuel prices at a gas station near my house.
328i - 22 mpg city, 33 mpg hwy
328d - 30 mpg city, 40 mpg hwy
87 Octane gasoline - $2.90/gal
Diesel - $3.05/gal
City:
328i - $0.132/mile ($132/1000 miles)*
328d - $0.102/mile ($102/1000 miles)
Highway:
328i - $0.088/mile ($88/1000 miles)*
328d - $0.076/mile ($76/1000 miles)
But wait! BMW recommends using minimum 89 octane gasoline, which at the same gas station costs $3.30/gal. So the actual 328i numbers, assuming you're following their guidelines, are as follows:
328i, 89 octane gas:
City - $0.150/mile ($150/1000 miles)
Highway - $0.100/mile ($100/1000 miles)
In addition, during the recent fuel crisis, during the worst of it, the only fuels available in this area were diesel and flex fuel, meaning that I was not able to fill my 328i but would have been able to fill a 328d if I had one. I'm not certain what fuel prices are in your area, or what fuels are more or less available during times of fuel scarcity, but out here a diesel would definitely be worth it from a fuel cost and availability standpoint...
...I just wish that BMW had brought the 335d Touring to the US.
Wow, diesel is more expensive than 87 octane there? Here in Canada diesel has always been about 80% the price of low octane gas, until a few years ago they used a refinery shortage as an excuse to increase the price, which hasn't gone back down, but they are still close with diesel just below 87 octane for prices. But with that said, we're still more expensive for fuel, averaging about $5/gallon with "covid" prices.