Shipping trade unionists describe P&O Ferries 'intimidation' to remove staff from ferries
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2022
- Union representatives told a Commons committee how P&O Ferries hired security staff to 'intimidate' staff living on ships into gathering their belongings and leaving immediately. A Nautilus union representative said they had seen photos of members' belongings in bin bags next to skips
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At a minimum the British people should boycott P&O entirely and they should lose docking privileges. Laws need to be crafted to prevent these shocking practices. They just purchased two new vessels at a cost of 200M so I cannot imagine business was “poor” by any stretch.
Not just P and O but more importantly DP World should be banned from any Freeport’s in U.K.
I have already switched my booking to DFDS ferries and have asked the credit card company to retrieve my payment as I believe P&O to be a criminal company.
Government new about it last Wednesday - they did nothing - But bigger question is, if the company is in such dire straights, why was it only UK workers which got fired.
P&O fury as 'ZERO French staff fired' despite all UK crew being let go with 800 jobs lost
FURY has been sparked over the decision by P&O Ferries to fire "no French staff" despite sacking 800 UK seafarers.
Their excuse for firing - just doesn't add up.
@@casperwallace9685 French workers enjoy greater protection than their British colleagues thanks to the Code du Travail (labour code).
The Code du Travail places onerous responsibilities on companies seeking redundancies.
@@frankiefourfingers6717 I was going to add this myself, totally agree with a boycott of P&O Ferries (should be noted they aren't connected with the Cruise Line)AND DP World should not be allowed to receive any funds from the national purse EVER.
Government should just ban p and o from operating in British waters ,after this insult to British workers.
They won’t. Because the parasites that run this place probably make money from it somehow
In case you hadn't noticed you live on an Island 🤣
@@vladimirputin4822 So!
@@rosemarywoolley8394 Ferry services are pretty useful.
Maybe Failing Grayling can rustle up some new providers from the many Pizza delivery establishments he knows of?
P.S. there's a pet shop near Hancock's house that's perfect for PPE supplies.
@@vladimirputin4822 You really do talk a load of nonsense. Bye.
Cancel P&O contracts no P&O ferries allowed in British waters make the company feel the same pain as their old employees have
It's not like you live on an Island or anything, who needs ferry services anyhow?
@@vladimirputin4822 Have you not heard of the channel tunnel?
@@antong6582 Yes, have you?
I have already switched my booking to DFDS ferries and have asked the credit card company to retrieve my payment as I believe P&O to be a criminal company. And I suggest others do the same.
This route is important to our economy in the UK and I believe that the company should be requisitioned and run as a government entity until such time as a buyer can be found.
Although married to a foreign national I am getting sick and tired of foreign companies thinking that they can do what they want when they want. This includes our utilities and foreign energy generating companies, water companies and telecommunications.
I employ a dozen staff. As a sentient human being, capable of empathy, this would sit in my conscience as the worst thing I had ever done to another human being. I could not live with myself for doing it and after doing it, I would never again feel a sense of achievement.
i was sacked off the Spirit of Britain, as a steward after over a decade of service. Given 20 mins notice to get off the gangway one at a time, utter disgrace, will not forget this..
Hopefuly this is p&os Ratners moment 🤞
Would providing these ships fuel and other supplies be aiding and abetting a criminal activity?
P and o management being dictated by their dubi owners standards.
Shocking! We were a maritime nation.
I will never use p&o again !
This is exactly what British Gas did to their loyal work force. Except BG did it under the cover of full lockdown so no one could go and protest/strike properly. Its disgusting and someone needs to be thrown in jail!
Any Company in the World that does not act with accepted business ethics . Should face consequences . Hebblewaith working for Emirats .Who do not have the same sense of values . Shame on him. Evil men across the globe are showing the worst side of humanity . With a few extraordinary Men and Women standing up for what is Just.
And you don’t think government lockdowns had any impact at all on travel industries??
The most disgraceful thing was that during my "summer job" on P&O vessel I was working straight 3 months without a day of break ... can you imagine. They should face hard consequences because what they were doing to their staff was a slavery..
You probably didn’t work very hard let’s be honest
MaNarchicDRAKE looks like he is Polish, so works harder than most English people
@@MaNarchicDRAKE how exactly did you come to that conclusion?
How can it be slavery. You voluntarily entered a contract. At any point I’m sure you could have disembarked the vessel and gone to your embassy and asked for assistance. Slavery by definition requires you to be held against your will. You decided to stay. You just didn’t like it. This isn’t slavery. It’s just whining.
@@InAMinMaths that’s a bit racist
boycott P&O entirely
P&O should not be allowed to operate in the UK. Ever again.
Absolutely atrocious behaviour by P&O , they should most definitely be brought to court and tried, but this is no different than other major UK companies moving their production to China etc. Its just a cost saving exercise to pay the workers as little as possible.
There has to be changes in shipping laws for vessels operating within uk waters or shipping companies that have offices based within the uk . Exploitation of British Seafarers by shipping companies must be changed
They entered into a contract voluntarily. Ergo there is no exploitation by definition. If you will fully enter an agreement, that’s a free choice. Exploitation is when you are being used or manipulated against your will.
Cruelty seems to be in fashion, at the moment. Thanx, tories.
Hmm and the potential acid throwing criminal sits amongst the 'be kind' opposition. It's not down to a single political party.
If you care so much, why don’t you give someone a job? You’re expecting everyone else to employ these people
@@RQCK0N Wow! Cynicism too.
@@MaNarchicDRAKE It's quite unfortunate that I don't have a position to give, but I don't see how this should stop me from pointing at the enormous cruelty exhibited by the tories. Everyone should. Why aren't you? Are you on their side?
A reminder that P&O distributed dividends of 270 million to shareholders during The Blip.
No it didn’t, the company that owns P& O did though.
P&O have done to their company the same as BLOWJO JOHNSON HAS DONE TO OUR COUNTRY.
It will be all talk for a couple of weeks and then it will be forgotten about as usual with our politicians and government.
I see that P&O have dismissed(sacked)their staff on their ferries.I understand P&O will take on
New Staff for their ferries,at a cheaper salary,so that they can save money.The staff must be
from the Captain to the lowest rating,on each of their ferries.P&O must train their new staff,
in how to operate their ferries.This would take months to do.There ferries would be stuck
in whatever Ports they are in now,until the new staff have been trained.There will be
Legal Suits,Etc.put forward now against P&O.
The average wage of the new staff is £5.50 per hour.
@@ilovesandwiches
That is terrible.
Covid. Lockdowns. What are they supposed to do when they can’t produce income for effectively 2+ years?
Man said we got no beef with P&O 🤣😂🤦🏽♂️
Ships registered in Cyprus, Bahamas & Bermuda, crews employed in Jersey, pick which law you like and obey it if convenient!
Welcome to the brexit.
@@vladimirputin4822 what has that got to do with things?
@@PuRpLeIzLeGiTx You don't think the reduced income on that route has anything to do with it?
Why do you think it reduced? Shock, horror....brexit!
Also no ECJ to appeal to.
There's that.
@@vladimirputin4822 The ECJ has no jurisdiction in Guernsey.
They'll change their name and re brand like Ratners did. Won't work though, they've crashed their loyal workers and sunk the company.
They can afford milions on redundancies when the money would be better spent on a new management team that can turn the ship around.
It's the captain/pilot that steers the ship, the management team are probably in an office shoreside 😉
@@vladimirputin4822 I was speaking metaphorically.... numpty.
Boycott P&O !
sanction Britain, for war crimes,
All talk. Why don’t they do something about it
Noone should book with P and O ferries again.Choose another ferry company.
They should have their licences revoked to operate in the UK.
Act of of extreme brutality. How can this be allowed to happen. Abuse
Government should not renew the P&O licences to use British Waters and get another Company to take the Business of ferrying passengers instead
Government might be busy partying...
Then you’ll also be complaining the government takes more cutbacks too because the tax intake goes down.
If ‘we the people’ were really United we’d never use P&O again but we know that wont happen.
They should be refused licence to dock at UK ports.
This is rowdyism, arrest the security guys and these CEO, COO and other management guys immediately
Absolute disgraceful 🤮 this company should be made to pay £100k to each worker just for the way they have been treated let alone that they have lost there jobs!
Why?? You do understand they’ve produced very little income and made huge losses because of lockdowns that the governments around the world imposed.
Concerning that security can be handcuffed trained. Isnt that entrapment? Isn't that illegal?
This might seem like a bad thing, but actually they are all lucky to got away from this company!
Now let's change the law, and end such conditions.
Welcome to Global Britain!
I won’t sail with P&O now. I look for other alternatives. Everyone should. 🤷♂️
No more of my business will going in P&O`s direction
Why where French and Dutch workers not sacked. Perhaps because they are EU members.
In future DFDS.....
Wouldn't go as far to say St Patrick's day massacre with the history in Ireland. I proper feel for those workers, they must be devastated. They have lost more than just a job and are in my thoughts
hope people do not use P&0 travel
Please investigate NEXT, there is something seriously bad going on with that company
Shocking behaviour 3world
If life isn't hard enough at the minute they need investigating for breach of human rights
Shameful
I seem to remember something similar happened top City Link back in 2014 when over 3000 staff were told on Christmas Eve that they no longer had jobs !
The British government encourages this kind of behavior by big business, It seems
After covid especially, who wants to even go on cruises? I’ve never seen the appeal of marooning yourself on a large boat full of disease ridden strangers. What’s the appeal of being on a boat? Anything you can do there you can do on land without being diseased, sea sick, and being trapped on a boat. Plus you get the freedom of actually experiencing a local culture rather than trapping yourself with the worst type of person, a tourist.
Tory Labour laws are to blame ,P o are just puppets don't get sidetracked by the Tories slime
I will never use P&O again... Stena to Ireland from now on.
Utter scumbags to treat employees like that.
I’m pretty certain it was the appearance of Irish ferries on the Dover to Calais route last summer that has spread this contagion to P&O.
They will rebrand.
Would it have made any difference had we still been in the EU I wonder?
Der er vist nogen der har glemt hvor de kommer fra Jesper... du skulle tage et godt kig i spejlet....
This is still absolutely disgusting, they are all criminals doing what they did. Absolute parasites.
P&O CLINTS!
Twots
Cupid Stunts
UN pheasant pluckers.
this should not be a political issue. The personel employed on ferries operating from British Ports must be subject to UK employment Laws. If P&O are unable to sustain their operation here in the UK that should be a matter for discussion that involves the Unions & British Government to find possible resolutions.
shame for this guy just a middle man
Irish Ferries did exactly the same, and now have vessels operating out of Dover. Government angst seems a little hypocritical.
Do not expect the Tories to support you. Their focus is on the rich and powerful.
DP World are odious criminals and require maximum penalties imposed and not only fines but a custodial sentence for those bosses involved in this action. 🍋💩💩💨👎👎👎.
This is some 3rd world shenanigan
UK about intervention private sector
It's interesting a security task force, uniform large in number attends a task, prohibiting free movement about daily business. If nothing else that's new.
Scrapped EU employment law... this turkey voted for Xmas... no jobs lost in the EU... I wonder why???
EU law in its entirety, including EU employment law, was transposed into British law the day Britain left the European Union. Some people are just so anxious to blame Brexit for everything that they ignore simple basic facts.
@@davidpryle3935 so ... brexit has not delivered and dare I say it ... never will. The peasants were used and now will be abused by the ERG controlled tory cabal.
@@retroarcade3342 Whether Brexit “delivered” or not, it had absolutely nothing to do with the P&O debacle. As regards the Tories, they can be voted out at the next election. Now the EU commission on the other hand……….
@@davidpryle3935 no EU protection for the rights of the workers... it had a big effect on the p&O decision..
@@retroarcade3342 You’ve just completely ignored my first post. It’s pointless talking to you. Goodnight.
P&O Boycott
Boycott P&O
Awesome 👍
Never say the union employment! For what.
Global Britain says Boris,yeah replace your workforce with cheap Labour.Nice one Boris,why did Great Britain pull out of the Social Charter,so that we have exactly what has happened.
Don't understand your point. What they did was illigal. They've admitted it was illegal, they knew it and did it anyway. This was a company intent on breaking the law. Not sure why you believe they would have listened to some laws and not others?
It's a bit like asking for an anti stabbing law to try and prevent stabbing, as though that would help stop people stabbing each other. And, although there's existing laws that make stabbing illegal.
🙄UK companys under Blairs government were able to flag ships anywhere in the world and never employed British crews. This has been going on for decades. You can try and blame Boris if you want. But it's misplaced in this case.
@@mrflibble9783 It goes back even further than Blair. Thatcher and the 1980's Tory government supported anti union laws that allowed for an erosion on employment laws and changes in contracts that effected seafarers. They also allowed for seafarers working in the UK to be registered abroad with less rights. Add in the fact that they also saw the decline in British registered ships and had to draft new laws in 1987 to stop the loss of all British registered ships!
@@dannyvine3605 actually the unions required closed shop practices pre thatcher. Which meant the union was effectively the deciding factor as to whether you got hired. They were no better than any other gang using force to get their way. And that had to be stopped. Also unions were taking action without support of members and they were using their hold of industry as a political force repeatedly to hold the country to ransom. Electricity was cut off, refuse piled up on the streets, the dead went unburied. And there was very little way of escaping because everything was state operated there was no opportunity for competition and better ideas to emerge. I don’t think people would ever want to return to waiting six months to have a phone line installed by BT! Or their entire life controlled and operated by state monopolies. And if they did there would be mass defections happening to North Korea. 🤷♂️
"Corporate hostility?"
Is this a joke?😂
Then perhaps the RMT should not have supported the Brexit that made this not just possible but almost inevitable. Pretending like they had nothing to do with it is somewhat disingenuous at this point in time tbh.
oh yawn yawn yawn
Richard sleep on your sovereignty it's a bRExiT gift pushed by the foreign p and o management....from Dubai
@Vin H It seems that it was an EU law that meant P&O were only obliged to inform the countries where the ships are flagged. The reason that UK workers were targetted is because our fines for this kind of illegal behaviour are cheaper than France and Netherlands, however, you should note that EU law on the notification and mass fire and hire or redundancies is a lower bar than the UKs. Several EU countries dont even have minimum wage legislation...Italy, Austria, Cyprus, Denmark, Sweden and Finland. So UK employment law and rights in many areas is higher than the EU legislation provides for, but some EU countries own specific laws are harder than the UKs, whilst some are weaker. It certainly isnt the case that Brexit has meant that UK laws are less strong than the basic EU laws.
P&O have already acknowledged their actions are illegal and against UK law, they just priced in the fact that UK fines were likely to be cheaper than France or Netherlands fines.
I think the UK public will avoid P&O in future and that will certainly damage the business. It remains to be seen what the UK public can do to show their disgust at the parent company DP World, but we will see what happens over the Freeport investment.
Actually the opposite would be true. And P&O could post their UK profits in any EU Jurisdiction that offered the best tax efficient deal. So actual Brits would have got shafted multiple times by this. Also this was caused by covid and lockdowns and these companies having to absorb massive losses and different rules on having to pay staff furloughs simultaneously. The current structures couldn’t have continued.
Vin H. Which EU law exactly would have prevented this from happening, that has been rescinded by the U.K since it left the EU. I’m a bit confused, as EU law in its entirety, including EU employment law was transposed into U.K law, the day Britain left the European Union.
Love Lynch ❤❤❤
I would not sail on a P & O vessel crewed by low paid, internationally sourced seafarers.
Why? Safety.
Where did they train? What Certificates of Competency do they have? Issued by whom? What experience do they have in North Channel winter weather?
Avoid using P&O!
Also because they treated their now former employees so abysmally? No?
Just horrendous!!!
The UK Government CANNOT sit back and allow this kind of corporate thuggery ...
The unions need to exercise a bit of muscle and brain power as well.
P&O should immediately lose any rights to operate ferry services.
BECAUSE ... imagine what else management/owners will get away with ... if THIS idiocy is not challenged. Bizzare.
Wait ans see, but I'll bet my bottom dollar that very little will be done to change things by this government..........................................
If they brook the law, workers should also break the law by SINKING some of the ships if not all
This is the real peaky blinders stuff.
It's the Law of humanity all over the world which should go and help defend human rights and freedoms this is not what NATO should do it's where the Laws human rights?
The trouble with trade unions in the UK is that they focus on maintaining the status quo,. This can work to protect workers in some industries, but for the most part they seem unable to adapt to changing environments and the reality that businesses often have to change radically to survive
Did you read all that in the daily mail, or was it in the sun? Unions are the only hope that workers have from being disgracefully exploited by some companies, and want a company to thrive obviously in order to safeguard their members incomes and futures. However, and never forget that it's the workers who bring the money in, all the bosses do is direct the money. Unions just want their members to share in the prosperity of a company and just want respect and fair treatment, and unfortunately under the tories workers rights have been stripped away. This is not a 3rd world or developing country, but if we're not prepared to fight for workers then that is exactly what we'll become, like something from Dickens' times. Is that what you want?
Vote with your wallets, no moral person will give money to this company.
I thought this Union told members to vote for Brexit?
P&O reflagged from the UK to Cyprus because of Brexit.
I don't believe they needed to tell the UK gov as the boats are not flagged here?
P & O are subject to uk law reinforced by brexit as parliament controls policy of uk law not the eu .... as P&O as a company have operational requirements in uk waters they have chose to ignore all known protocols .....this after the british govt supported it in the pandemic period
Brexit doesn't come into it. This odious company will sack anybody in an instant. I worked for the Port of Felixstowe and they took over and sacked us all by letter. It was later deemed illegal but we went back under worse conditions. P&O are without doubt the worst company in the world. Hope they go bankrupt
artoo detoo was it was brexit that caused the war in Ukraine as well you numpty
RMT bleating. They told their members to vote for Brexit. Couldn't make it up!
Well, Mr Lynch, you told your members to vote for Brexit……. That ended well didn’t it? By doing that you emboldened P&O to behave in this manner…….
Oh please 🙄
@@frankiefourfingers6717 please what? Project Reality bites dude.
Classic criminal behavior ..... Hahaa how can this be allowed
Ah capitalism.
Brexit Britain 2022
The aware city noticeably answer because ferry cumulatively boil failing a burly flax. eatable, exultant sweatshirt
so do something. sink the ships.