I like that the remake actually has a callback to this. Where you can steal a weapon from this monster (changed into a boss) for Aerith as well. I wish all the other characters had a "steal only" type weapon.
You can skip everyone's Kalm weapon before going to Kalm except for Tifa's. Cloud's Hardedge is in Midgar stolen from the Shinra Swordsman. Barrett's Atomic Scissors is stolen from an enemy with two guns on the world map between Midgar and that mountain thing on the way to the chocobo farm. Aeris's weapon is in the video in the Train Graveyard in Sector whatever. Tifa's Grand Glove is stolen from the pink thing with a mace in the Mythril Mines just after the Giant snake. (but like I said, it's after Kalm) Red XIII's weapon can't be upgraded until Junon. The other 4 members are not currently in the party once arriving to Kalm. You can even skip the armor too. Mythril Armor is sold in Kalm. Carbon Bangles are stolen from the enemy with a spiky ball has their lower half in the Shinra Building. I farmed them in the hallway leading up to where you find Aeris and Red XIII (and Hojo). You may have to do this before entering that room, I don't truly remember lol.
@@philbecker4676 i always kinda liked the mini game. Gil was never an issue in FF7, so i liked to build just a ton of catapults or stone throwers, go get a snack and when incame back, see if i had lost...yeah im crazy
@@philbecker4676 heres something off topic that i always kinda wondered. At the end of the temple of the ancients, when cloud is going to give the black materia to sephiroth, and you gain control of child cloud, your able to turn 'real cloud' around if you spin him around. Do u think its possible to direct 'real cloud' towards aeris instead of sephiroth? Do u think its possible to use child cloud to stop sephiroth from getting the materia and give it to aeris instead? Ive tried many times, but i cant seem to spin adult cloud around lol :)
I loved the Train Graveyard. My favourite place in the game for its sad, mournful music and some really cool, unique drops (I managed to save a ghost hand right til the end of the game!). Next best place is in the North Cave, it's so wonderfully bizarre with brilliant music.
I beat this game so many times but it was years before I knew about stealing stronger equipment early-on. I think the Carbon Bangles in the Shinra Building were the most difficult because you needed multiples.
This is also the only area outside of the battle arena that you can find ghosts to steal ghost hands from. If you want to have all items for the sake of collection, don't forget to steal some while passing through, since you can't return to the train graveyard again.
Yes. You can steal a Hardedge for Cloud in the Shinra Tower from 3rd Class SOLDIERs, and that's the best sword in the game for Cloud for quite a while. And those jet-eagle things in the forests near Junon have the Boomerang which is a very strong early weapon for Yuffie. And back to the Shinra Tower, the mechanical enemies with the "ball" for a bottom end that has spinning blades, you can actually steal Carbon Bangles from them, which is extremely good early armor as well. Also, something to pay very close attention to not miss out on, is that you can steal what is arguably the best armor in the entire game from Rude (Ziedrich), and the earliest you can do so is when you fight him by himself in rocket town, and IIRC you only get a chance to steal a Ziedrich from him in 3 battles....one of which is optional (when you can optionally fight Reno, Rude, & Elena during the Shinra Raid).
@@gamester512 Actually, The "Earliest" You Can Fight Him Is Underwater, When You Fight Him And Reno In The Sunken Gelnika. You kinda MUST Head There "Immediately After" You Finish The Underwater Reactor With Your Submarine, Where They Are Trying To Retrieve Some Old Materia And Items. Both Him And Reno There Have Good Stuff To Steal(Both Are 50% Steal Rates). And Let's Say You Stole From Him In The Gelnika. He Would "Again" Have "Another" Ziedrich To Steal In Rocket Town(And Another In The Midgar Raid). The "Same" Applies To Reno In The Midgar Raid For His "Tough Ring"(So You Can Get 2 Of Those). However, When Your Trying To Steal The "Ziedrich" Off Rude In Rocket Town, It's BEST To NOT Use "Mug" As His 2nd Ziedrich Is A 12.5% Steal There And He Only Has 9000 HP. Elena You Only Battle "Once" And Her Minerva Band Is A 50% Steal(Just Like With The Other 2 Turks' Steals Alongside Her).
@@RedMarioXIIINanaki36 Fair enough. It's been a long time since I last played through the original game myself, though I plan to do so again sometime soon. Don't think I've ever actually completed the game for some reason, but I do know that I at least made it past the final J.E.N.O.V.A. boss in the game, but I never actually fought Bizarro/Safer Sephiroth. Granted I was still very young back then, so for all I know I may have just gotten bored or just gotten invested in a different game at the time. I don't think I even had enough patience to bother with trying to get Knights of the Round back then either.
@@gamester512 Now Here Is Something That REALLY Got A LOT Of People In FF7: Red XIII's Behemoth Horn Weapon. It's In Shinra HQ When Your Doing The Midgar Raid And It's On The Long Black StairCase. However Getting It is VERY TRICKY. It's Not As Simple As Just Taking The StairCase From The Ground Floor. Some Speculated You Could Get It From The Ground Floor Just By Going Up The StairCase. Others Speculated You Could Go Up And Then Back Down The StairCase. And Others Speculated That You Had To Get The "Elixir" On The StairCase On The "First" Visit On Disc 1. ALL Of Those Are "Incorrect". Here's The "Correct" Way To Get That Weapon For Him, It Shows Up EVERY Time: 1. Find Shinra HQ By Taking The "Right" Path Going North After You Fight The Turks. Enter Shinra HQ's MAIN Entrance, And Take The Elevator To Floor 59. 2. From There, Head LEFT And Find The Black StairCase. Go Down The Black StairCase Several Levels. KEEP Going Down Them Until You Find The Weapon(It's A "Small Little White Item Bag" And Can Be A Little Hard To See). 3. There Was A BUG On This Weapon Not Appearing When People Took The STAIRS UP From The Ground Floor, In Both The PSX AND The PS4/Steam Versions.
a bit too bad you find a good weapon for aerith but you don't get to fight with her before a very long time after this. And even the next time you'll fight with her, it will be versus two boss she can't even reach, lol.
Don't worry about it too much, you shouldn't be using Aeris much (if at all) after Midgar anyway and if you do she shouldn't be a melee fighter. In the back row spamming enemy skills, that's where her power lies!
@@philbecker4676 it's okay id only saved at the bottom of the tower onto a new save. Went back to Don corneo and got back to the graveyard. This is my 8th time I think and I still discover new things. It's a shame it's too easy to get over powered really
+Trusteft The first time I ever played this game I didn't do any grinding at all and I managed to finish it. There are some optional bosses that definitely require a lot of leveling and items from side quests though. Once you get to the last disc of the game you get an airship and complete freedom to go where you want/do side quests etc.
You really don't need to grind. The grinding that people do for this game is to max everything out and get all the gear. It isn't necessary to play and enjoy the game.
4 yrs later but I just downloaded the game for my pc as I can travel with it and I got back into it and believe me I'm hooked. You should really try this beautiful jam again.
As previous comments say, the grinding is only if you want to master materia and reach stupidly high character levels. Once your characters are level 40 with decent weapons, the game becomes rather easy to beat.
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I like that the remake actually has a callback to this. Where you can steal a weapon from this monster (changed into a boss) for Aerith as well. I wish all the other characters had a "steal only" type weapon.
They do bro. In the original ff7 anyway
They do. But it's not steal only weapon, but early power weapons. Like cloud hardegde Barret scissors arm etc.
You can skip everyone's Kalm weapon before going to Kalm except for Tifa's.
Cloud's Hardedge is in Midgar stolen from the Shinra Swordsman.
Barrett's Atomic Scissors is stolen from an enemy with two guns on the world map between Midgar and that mountain thing on the way to the chocobo farm.
Aeris's weapon is in the video in the Train Graveyard in Sector whatever.
Tifa's Grand Glove is stolen from the pink thing with a mace in the Mythril Mines just after the Giant snake. (but like I said, it's after Kalm)
Red XIII's weapon can't be upgraded until Junon.
The other 4 members are not currently in the party once arriving to Kalm.
You can even skip the armor too. Mythril Armor is sold in Kalm.
Carbon Bangles are stolen from the enemy with a spiky ball has their lower half in the Shinra Building. I farmed them in the hallway leading up to where you find Aeris and Red XIII (and Hojo). You may have to do this before entering that room, I don't truly remember lol.
You upgrade reds weapon at Fort Condor by getting the magic comb from the event...
@@tasselhoff1293 Yeah but only psychopaths bother to play the Fort Condor minigame properly.
@@philbecker4676 i always kinda liked the mini game. Gil was never an issue in FF7, so i liked to build just a ton of catapults or stone throwers, go get a snack and when incame back, see if i had lost...yeah im crazy
@@tasselhoff1293 Haha maybe I'll give it a try on my next playthrough then.
@@philbecker4676 heres something off topic that i always kinda wondered. At the end of the temple of the ancients, when cloud is going to give the black materia to sephiroth, and you gain control of child cloud, your able to turn 'real cloud' around if you spin him around. Do u think its possible to direct 'real cloud' towards aeris instead of sephiroth? Do u think its possible to use child cloud to stop sephiroth from getting the materia and give it to aeris instead? Ive tried many times, but i cant seem to spin adult cloud around lol :)
I loved the Train Graveyard. My favourite place in the game for its sad, mournful music and some really cool, unique drops (I managed to save a ghost hand right til the end of the game!). Next best place is in the North Cave, it's so wonderfully bizarre with brilliant music.
I didnt know, 36 years old played day 1 release ff7. Platinum trophy obtained, in remake too.
Didnt know this.
I beat this game so many times but it was years before I knew about stealing stronger equipment early-on. I think the Carbon Bangles in the Shinra Building were the most difficult because you needed multiples.
Gosh that soundtrack so good
This is also the only area outside of the battle arena that you can find ghosts to steal ghost hands from. If you want to have all items for the sake of collection, don't forget to steal some while passing through, since you can't return to the train graveyard again.
Thank you for givin me a tip now i can kick some real ass with Aeris (or if you call her Aerith)
I imagine this took a while with level 11 tifa
I either get the Striking Staff immediately or it takes like 10 minutes, there is no in-between 😅
good job !
Got it first try! are there other early powerful weapons for the others?
Yes. You can steal a Hardedge for Cloud in the Shinra Tower from 3rd Class SOLDIERs, and that's the best sword in the game for Cloud for quite a while. And those jet-eagle things in the forests near Junon have the Boomerang which is a very strong early weapon for Yuffie. And back to the Shinra Tower, the mechanical enemies with the "ball" for a bottom end that has spinning blades, you can actually steal Carbon Bangles from them, which is extremely good early armor as well.
Also, something to pay very close attention to not miss out on, is that you can steal what is arguably the best armor in the entire game from Rude (Ziedrich), and the earliest you can do so is when you fight him by himself in rocket town, and IIRC you only get a chance to steal a Ziedrich from him in 3 battles....one of which is optional (when you can optionally fight Reno, Rude, & Elena during the Shinra Raid).
@@gamester512 Actually, The "Earliest" You Can Fight Him Is Underwater, When You Fight Him And Reno In The Sunken Gelnika. You kinda MUST Head There "Immediately After" You Finish The Underwater Reactor With Your Submarine, Where They Are Trying To Retrieve Some Old Materia And Items. Both Him And Reno There Have Good Stuff To Steal(Both Are 50% Steal Rates). And Let's Say You Stole From Him In The Gelnika. He Would "Again" Have "Another" Ziedrich To Steal In Rocket Town(And Another In The Midgar Raid). The "Same" Applies To Reno In The Midgar Raid For His "Tough Ring"(So You Can Get 2 Of Those). However, When Your Trying To Steal The "Ziedrich" Off Rude In Rocket Town, It's BEST To NOT Use "Mug" As His 2nd Ziedrich Is A 12.5% Steal There And He Only Has 9000 HP. Elena You Only Battle "Once" And Her Minerva Band Is A 50% Steal(Just Like With The Other 2 Turks' Steals Alongside Her).
@@RedMarioXIIINanaki36 Fair enough. It's been a long time since I last played through the original game myself, though I plan to do so again sometime soon. Don't think I've ever actually completed the game for some reason, but I do know that I at least made it past the final J.E.N.O.V.A. boss in the game, but I never actually fought Bizarro/Safer Sephiroth. Granted I was still very young back then, so for all I know I may have just gotten bored or just gotten invested in a different game at the time. I don't think I even had enough patience to bother with trying to get Knights of the Round back then either.
@@gamester512 Now Here Is Something That REALLY Got A LOT Of People In FF7: Red XIII's Behemoth Horn Weapon. It's In Shinra HQ When Your Doing The Midgar Raid And It's On The Long Black StairCase. However Getting It is VERY TRICKY. It's Not As Simple As Just Taking The StairCase From The Ground Floor. Some Speculated You Could Get It From The Ground Floor Just By Going Up The StairCase. Others Speculated You Could Go Up And Then Back Down The StairCase. And Others Speculated That You Had To Get The "Elixir" On The StairCase On The "First" Visit On Disc 1. ALL Of Those Are "Incorrect". Here's The "Correct" Way To Get That Weapon For Him, It Shows Up EVERY Time:
1. Find Shinra HQ By Taking The "Right" Path Going North After You Fight The Turks. Enter Shinra HQ's MAIN Entrance, And Take The Elevator To Floor 59.
2. From There, Head LEFT And Find The Black StairCase. Go Down The Black StairCase Several Levels. KEEP Going Down Them Until You Find The Weapon(It's A "Small Little White Item Bag" And Can Be A Little Hard To See).
3. There Was A BUG On This Weapon Not Appearing When People Took The STAIRS UP From The Ground Floor, In Both The PSX AND The PS4/Steam Versions.
you can steal atomic scissors for barret from the mech enemies. just outside Midgar when your on your way to Kalm.
Strange I farmed 10 ethers and 20 ghost hands there and didn't fought this monster a single time...
I know because I steal every monster at least once
Woah I got it without know, I'm playing por first time and i steal to everyone xd
The Devs knew what was gonna happen to her in about... 12 hours :(
Todas las armas de Aerith están adelantadas porque ella muere.
a bit too bad you find a good weapon for aerith but you don't get to fight with her before a very long time after this. And even the next time you'll fight with her, it will be versus two boss she can't even reach, lol.
Whoopee, a physical attack weapon. For Aeris.
I'm sure completionists are happy but I'll just take my Hardedge and go.
Shit I've literally JUST got past this bit 🤣
That's the worst feeling 😅
Don't worry about it too much, you shouldn't be using Aeris much (if at all) after Midgar anyway and if you do she shouldn't be a melee fighter. In the back row spamming enemy skills, that's where her power lies!
@@philbecker4676 it's okay id only saved at the bottom of the tower onto a new save. Went back to Don corneo and got back to the graveyard. This is my 8th time I think and I still discover new things. It's a shame it's too easy to get over powered really
@@philbecker4676 For when you get the staff, its good, + 7 boost to magic stat, has a linked pair of slots, 2 unlinked. Not bad for early game.
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No aerith no
I am tempted to get it for the PC, but...I don't like JRPGs, I can't stand the grinding and lack of freedom.
+Trusteft The first time I ever played this game I didn't do any grinding at all and I managed to finish it. There are some optional bosses that definitely require a lot of leveling and items from side quests though. Once you get to the last disc of the game you get an airship and complete freedom to go where you want/do side quests etc.
You really don't need to grind. The grinding that people do for this game is to max everything out and get all the gear. It isn't necessary to play and enjoy the game.
4 yrs later but I just downloaded the game for my pc as I can travel with it and I got back into it and believe me I'm hooked. You should really try this beautiful jam again.
As previous comments say, the grinding is only if you want to master materia and reach stupidly high character levels. Once your characters are level 40 with decent weapons, the game becomes rather easy to beat.