SUB 250g 5-inch Freestyle?.. Enter The Outlaw!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Shawn has come up with a brand new 5-inch drone... that weighs under 250 grams! But can it fly like a normal 5-inch?
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he said "you're gonna have a legit 5 inch experience" I bet he says that to all the ladie's.
=))
Lol yeah I thought about sampling that bit hahaha
So you built a drone to comply with laws, and called it the outlaw.
lol
No, no. He's got a point.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🎉 way to push the limit.
So it should really be called the "Inlaw"?
Sean coming onboard is literally the best thing to happen to rotor riot.
Shawn is a LEGEND!!!
@@BubbyFPV your the best too also love that your on the channel now as well!!
@@BubbyFPV yes my boiii
I think it's a good team, Le Drib for the personality and charisma, Sean for the technical wizardry and Bubby for added personality / piloting.
Facts
So much jello on throttle. That flexible frame working wel 🤣
Can't great around on light frames. So many add arm braces to help a lil.
Without arm braces over 80% throttle my lightweight 5" wobbles and pulls up and left.
I'm trying to tune it out. And think I'm going to add the arm braces. But mine meant for cruising long range. Though I want it to be able to have fun on a Lipo
Remember they had a bent prop, they mentioned that
Every flight they high throttled there was jello
@@AliBFPV It prob also has to do with the camera mount also. TPU hasn't served me well in camera mounts Need something thicker.
@11:20, the two props that came off have screws which thread opposite to the rotation of the motors, hence why they back themselves out over time. It seems this affects the screw attached props more versus the nut attached props. But, if anybody here is an older geezer, like myself lol, you may remember having CW and CCW motors which had reverse threaded bolts on the two motors to counteract the loosening of the prop nut.
Such a fun day. I can’t believe it found it’s way all the way down to the one tiny little puddle of water at the bottom. 😂 BTW, after it dried off, everything still worked. 👍
Nice!!
Even the SMO4k? I would have thought it was toast.
@@athefpv4670 yes. It works, too. I didn’t think it would survive either. 😆
Did you unplug battery when you found it or did you let it dry first?
Common..
I built a few of these style quads (dry weight is 140g), and the trick is 86-91% throttle clip, throttle mid 0, and a throttle expo of 0.1. Also make sure to use longer M2 screws on the motors than stock to keep the props on! That is a pretty awesome frame!
This vs the ummagawd. I did want a vista freestyle. Was thinking lightweight over full weight.
@@divingfalconfpv4602 this frame also comes with pre-drilled 20x20 fc holes, in case you want to try something different, like a de-cased vista.
Shouldn't it be called the In-law? :D
Everyone: we're not willing to consider a 4 inch 250g drone because we want the 5 inch experience
Also everyone: this 5 inch 250g quad feels different to a regular 5 inch
Give it time. 8s 4", leader of fpv 2022
Sub250g 4" is where its at! Its called disc loading folks!
good stuff..my boy mehop out with the boys..nice.. great rips from bubby..boats..and bandos..nice
adding throttle expo helps an overpowered quad feel more manageable while not taking away from the top end/ top speed. if you do it in betaflight, make sure to change the throttle expo centered at 0 throttle, not the default centered at 50%.
I feel your pain drew. Sorry for your loss. When I'm about to lose a sneeze, I turn my face to the brightest part of they sky, or ceiling for that matter. Works more often than not.
13:01 the way it just goes in front of him like i need assistance lol
When I see the boat, I know this is gonna be an amazing episode!
Everytime i see one of my local bandos and i am not there makes this pony sad lmao, great episode guys!!
Me too. 😂
Drew: "What is this, VHS?"
Greetings from EU, where we not only have the
The 250g limit is irrelevant if you have a camera on it...
Typically EU, just regulating everything. Build the drone yourself, it is rated as 25kg drone ....
Wait what? Then I unintentionally broke those laws for quite some time now. Whoops. But honestly, why does this hobby need to be regulated so heavily? So annoying...
As far as I know, there is a 2 year transition phase. All drones need a CE lable and so on. The hobby will get very expensive, if you have to make a drone drivers license. And then in a few years, no child is interesed anymore in building his/her own drone. No knowledge is gained in electronics and physics. So sad ...
@@Gereon_ the rules changed on 01.01.2021
16:29 The face of a proud papa! 😁👍👍
Super day... great episode 💯💥🔥A sub 250g quad will be in my hangar when the day comes. It's nice to know RR has a sweet build ready to go 😍
Holy s***! I was looking for one yesterday and couldn't find anything!
Thank you so much!!!!! ❤️
ummagawd made a really nice frame as well
I learned so much watching this. Such a great episode!
Please encourage Caleb to drop his edit. It’s so worthy!
@@BRadFPV I've been telling him!!!! Please tell him tooooo!
Great episode! Nice drone, will consider. Bubby rocks!
Every time the subject of
The Ballad of serenity comes to mind
Use something like thread lock or Teflon tape on the bolts to keep the props on.
going fast is sort of my thing! ...im in love with it
That will be an awesome build. I will have to try it out.
The lightweight stuff I've been messing with always needs the idle speed dropped. The power and flight time is cool but you don't drop nearly as fast as you'd expect. So drop the idle or go to 4" props and it feels really really close to 5".
That thing took the hit like a champ
yeah, that first crash was real hard, just reconnect the camera and boom back in the air
I really wish those motors weren't T mount thought, the little screws are so annoying, I'd rather risk having to replace the motor bell if a shaft snapped just to have the locking nut
Dude flying the bando from the moving boat was badass lol
Love how drew ducks every time that thing powers by lol.
Sweet build
This is sick, i have a jar for saving and im ready to start my fpv journey
FAA: "We want all drones to be under 250 grams so everyone is safe"
Rotor Riot: "Neat, time to build a monster that makes you regret that decision"
Lol😂
Just now seeing this love it new into the hobby
I've watched this a couple times.. Love this build for the ones who w a light weight crusher regardless of the sub 250g :). Def on my build ' to-do' list
So the Outlaw is the drone that complies with laws? Lol
The outlaw is a drone that slips under the laws
Shaun awesome 😎 job on that sub250! And great components also with at CLRACING F7 AIO. I love it!
Dribs new energy drink “bando juice”!
B-rad and Danish take me to that bando!
Reach out on FB
This seems like my favourite attempt at a sub 250 5 inch I can’t believe it can carry a HD camera and still remain under
Big thumbs up soflo Fam 👍🏼🔥💯🦅
Hey Ledrib. Instead of a throttle cap just build one with lower KV motors. It’s like flying with a light cap and can get longer flight times. 5“ toothpicks are not only for legal requirements I personally find a lot more pros than full size 5 ” once you get used to them. A little less inertia, that’s about it.
Hell yeah Monday blues picked up by the RR episode
Sounds like a great Quad. Well done guys. Happy flying _[]- )
Thanks for that video guys.
I'm inspired to spend $ now.
✌😉👍
I my country 120g is the limit😢😢😢
No, before asking, i never broke the law, no, i never flew a uav, especially not a modified fpv mavic air 2 or a talon fpv aircraft🙃
No, officer, i nevet flew illegally😄
Wtf where do you live?
@@Sircleanfpv Hungary🇭🇺
@@wing_it ewwww I’m sorry to hear that. Yeah I’d be breaking the law... sorry! Then no again those drone police reside in trees, hollowed stumps, between rafters in bandos, etc.
Wouldn’t a better name be “in-law” verses outlaw? ;)
Have my a couple 250g racing quads the power is unreal !!
Could you tell me how heavy the Outlaw Frame itself is? Somehow you missed to add that info on your website...
Whaddya mean whyeee lmaooo
Although this is an amazing video think this is the wrong approach to sub 250g drones. A sub 250 4 inch for example flies way more like a 5 inch freestyle kwad, then a sub 250 5 inch. You just have incomprehensible hang times and way to little control with those. Love your content though, always waiting for the Monday’s so a new vid will be there😅.
yes! 4inch is the new 5inch imo, even ignoring the regulations. smaller, lighter and easier to fit in a bag, the Catalyst Machineworks Shocker and the upcoming Dave C Rekon 4 FR are great examples of this.
You should call it The Twitchy. Excellent frame and component choices.
Such an awesome Iconic fpv place. 💪👽🤟🏴☠️🥷 B-radfpv. 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Shawn looks like the grown up version of kid in Malcom in the middle!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhh
Awesome 💯great job guys 👌👍👍
@leDrib: if u wanna sneeze and it won't come out, look into a bright spot/light! Always works!
Buba really out here living his best life.
use a longer antenna on your quad for better penetration/signal.
One tip for T-motor here would be to add the nylon (white thing in the nylock nuts) in the prop screw threads to prevent the props from coming off due to vibration.
@11:47 ask T-motor if they can put a little nylon locking in the bell....
“Bando juice” 😂😂
Perfect. UK FPV newbie here. The drone laws suck. This video finally gives me a baseline so no one can hassle me and I can fly carefree like we are meant to.
We don't spend thousands of pounds on licensing, certificates, safe equipment and high class training just to get shouted down by karens and the law.
Screw them. Sub 250g is the way.
2021 and 2022 is the year of the sub250 moonshine drone
Thousands of pounds? Unless you're doing drone work professionally there is zero need to be spending thousands of pounds on drone training, just to fly an FPV.
@@KetaFPV indeed. But some people do take it that seriously. However, even if there is no need to spend that much, it is still an expensive hobby and the industry can easily be ruined or gatekeeped with a ruined market because of overegulation.
I wish sharkbyte had an option where i could have old pixels (with timeout) from older frame instead of white noise, it freaks me out like crazy. Even black pixels would look better.
I know I should not drive on the edge, but that fallback screen looks like driving a car at 150mph and then going straight into concrete wall. I don't like it.
email them
Wow, freestyle drones are awesome. You build it, you fly it, 100% skill.
Here in Europe we finally have clear rules, but it means you have to pass an exam and register for a >250gr drone. Now I'm within the law flying my fpv drones when I'm using an observer. It costs money to register your drones and the course you have to follow to pass the exam. Still happy flying, chased a quad and dirt bike yesterday, felt like I was in Rotor Riot for a moment.
the observer was always nesesery , and you need the exam for stuff under 250 too if it has a camera. but luckily if you want to fly away from people the exam for that is easy af
You don't have to register your drones, only the pilot needs to be registered. Maybe it's your national law?
@@nistax2880 for NL it's actually pretty nice, because before the EU rules we weren't allowed to fly FPV even with an observer
We are just going to have to be happy with 3 and 4 inch quads. 5 inch is great because of the weight and because of the momentum that it has. 5 inch props just happen to be the size prop that can throw that weight just right. If we can't have the weight then I don't see a reason to stick with 5 inch props. But what do I know?
Lush spot. Just absoloutely stunning 🛸🏝
That bando juice 😂
I litterally live right next to this bando... I hadn't even thought about flying it 🤦♂🤦♂
funny how famous B-rad's boat is now
Been boating to the bando since 2017. Approx 15 trips. Reach out on FB to join the next excursion.
@@BRadFPV very sick. I'm grateful for the invite and will keep that in mind.
Good video 🖤
I dont really understand the remote ID thing, does the quad have to transmit the users ID and is that done with the flight controller or like another component to stick on the drone. If you need to find a way to get the drone to transmit this signal then for people like me who have built their drone from scratch then how does that work, would we also need to add an extra transmitter and program it to output our ID or would you be able to buy an ID transmitter that you just give power to and then it just works.
Basically what im asking is do we need to program the flight controller to output this remote ID or can you buy a remote ID box and just plug it in.
Throwing this out there, why not put some spring washers on the prop bolts? Light and would ensure bolts stay tight :)
That little rig is pretty cool.
could you do an updated version of the how to FPV series
I want all three of those t-shirts. Stop picking on my bro Bubby haaaaa ha!
BubbyFPV⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️
I know this is 2 years old but someone should make a sub 250g drone that's body (FC, ESC etc...) and all you do is "click it" in to the arms with motors with little pop on connectors. This way if you crash and snap an arm you can just unclick the main body and swap out the arms in seconds.
thats cool , looks like only thing holding back is shark byte , as didn't have any pentation.
DJI has breakup in the same place at this location.
Still waiting for my 2fiddy frame :(
Buying products that are slightly still in pre production stage beware... remember all the poor bastards that bought into the clear view... yeah, I was one of those that canceled the order after 3 months of nothing...
@@creationlabsinc.189 Good point
@@creationlabsinc.189 what was clear view?
I thought about 2fiddy if I do lightweight freestyle. This outlaw looks promising but I'd need vista (maybe decased) or analog (pro32 or nano tramp)
@@user-uv6rb4ji3e sucks ummagawd 6s motors out of stock for 60dayz
In South Africa, you only have to be approved by the SACAA (South African Civil Aviation Authority) if flying anything over 7KG.
I have just realised that Drew sounds like Mark Rober 🤣🤣😂😂
Hi Guys Finally a safe boat, or at least one that will work all day. LOL ! I still don't know who came up with 250gm but it's stupid, but what do I know, I'm just a quad pilot. I did build a 4in 6s quad and it was 182gm with a 6s 450ma lipo. But yours is a 5in. It does look like fun to fly.but I have never had one that a T-mount comes loose, my 2004 3000kv motors don't come loose on 6s Interesting ? I'm curious if it would happen again. On remote ID ? I don't know if it would work, I just don't know if anyone has the form factor to make it work. When the FAA Finally starts making good progress then I will register but not until then. I am still hoping for remote ID to fail. Thanks again for the video and your first time with a running boat ! Sorry Sean.
What was that smo4k fov set to? It looked waay too narrow to look good. Love the lightweight 5inch though
Make a decased vista edition. Will still be under 250g with 650mah battery. Also should offer arm braces
You guys are in FLORIDA?? This is Sebastian! I have videos of these abandoned apartments on my channel.
Great vid . Is the frame going on the store ?
Looks like a familiar Spot in Sebastian, FL 🤔
Cant we just get back to ripping ballz with 5" quads? When is someone going to come out with the next awesome 5" remix v3 or something like that
rippin ballz is fun, but man I would wack down the KV on those motors and get smoother, longer flight times. you can still Botgrinder it up without plaid speed
if you can't use the top of the throttle, why use inefficient motor windings pretty much
Wait @RotorRiot when you get the same rules like in EU ... When our sub250 goes faster then 69km/h it is handled similar to your big 5inch ... so sub250 5inch is likely not interesting in Europe ...
I’ve designed an under 250 grams 5” that uses a vista and can use a 30 gram naked go pro. Think you went to heavy and compromised the video fpv experience sir.
But if you're getting monitized, you still need a part 107 and need to get registered 🤷♂️
Yep 250g needs to be monetized. :(
Bet I'd fly my tiny whoop there lol.
please make an energy drink called Bando Juice!
wonder how this would do as a long range quad with 2s 18650s. also the fc might not like the lower voltage of them as cutoff for li ions is 2.8-2.5v but you would get over 2x the energy in watt hours compared to both the lipos on the website.
That drone rolls up to the scene with it's ceiling missing
Sweet quad me wants
Is there going to be a kit for DJI Vista version also?
I see you can use a Caddx Vista in it. So does it take it over the 250 gram mark?