Great video idea, well-shot and executed as usual boys. I say a re-do/update is in order with a properly tuned drone compensating for the weight offset, and a bottom mounted battery. I think it would take the immersion and feel to the next level!
crazy idea. mak a kamera in the front to where u can switch for proper fpv and 3pv in tight spaces or after a crash to check if everithing is fine or something
That’s hilarious because that is how I set up my Tiny Trainer and Runcam Thumb. Sometimes I set the camera angle like that for videos. I’m glad to see I am not the only one thinking like this.
We need to see you try some toroidal props! Im new to FPV drones trying simulators and getting the hang of it. Seeing these creative ideas give me hope for a new hoppy to last a while!
Very intriguing, well done guys! I think another thing that may help new pilots is how easy it was to spot when you were flying skewed, it may assist people to actually fly straight when learning.
I got into drones because I felt like I was in the drivers seat of a Star Wars speeder, but the learning curve on trying to develop the spatial awareness needed to fly decent was steep. I feel like this would have offered me the ability to grow faster and with more confidence. The question then is, could you, or would you be able to make the swap to FPV from TPV without the ridiculous curve.
Did you use a simulator? I cant imagine starting without one. I got a sim cus i really wanted to fly fpv and there was many hours of failed acro that almost made me give up, if i tried to learn on a real quad im sure i would have crashed instantly and given up. However after 50 hours in the sim when i flew my first real quad it was smooth sailing.
@@andrewut7ya511 yeah same here. I put about 32 hours in on liftoff before i ever flew my drone i bought and after getting super comfortable with whipping it around on the sim i picked up the real deal and it felt amazing. Couldnt imagine how many part si would have broke just sending it without the sim because the early hours of the sim itself was wreck fest until i got throttle control down.
Super dead-cat 8 inch rear arms with the usual 5 inch props....I've been away from watching fro a while guys and I rally love how things are coming along. This editing is superb. Funny and intriguing and just all round great times.
I have that in mine. just a super light carbon arm in the back with a micro camera looing down onto the drone. its insane for landing, while the fpv cam is far better for flying.
I can't wait to see the builds everyone brings to Rampage!!! Bubby going all in on this 3rd person view drone!!! I'm glad you guys brought him on as a pilot, him and drib got a great vibe together lol
They kind of look like dragonflies with those tails! For watching on video I still like the 360-cam-on-a-stick 3rd person view more. But you don't see that while flying. Crashes look pretty crazy when you can see the drone flipping around.
Okay now we need to see all the crash compilations! 🤣😂. Excellent video, Shawn you make FPV even more fun with all your inventions! 😁 You guys are all so much fun! Thanks for another amazing episode. 😁🤙😉
Probably done as a joke, however I'd super buy a drone like this to be honest. I can see quite a few situations where it'd absolutely be a benefit and esp for trying to get better, there's some advantages there as well. Great video guys, another great idea LetsFlyRC!
With how well it was helping you guys move in the tree branches it might be better suited for search and rescue or construction drones that need to fit in tighter spaces.
I think this is just what the youtube community needs to push the awe inspiring nature of fpv freestyle out beyond the only fpvers audience. Been trying to do this with whoop for a while and just ducts in view helps non flyers feel like it is cooler. The whole drone is even better....
@@natasunknow240 😂😂 if you're not willing to do the research to answer these questions on your own... yeah fpv ain't for you. Some fpv quads can fly 20 minutes. Most freestyle 5" builds go for 4-5 minutes. Personally I prefer 3 and a half minutes full send. That's long enough for a pack. But I do bring 10-15 packs with me.
great idea.. Battery in the way. as much as I love a toilet tank... a long low fat battery would of looked more "Fighter Jet" but... Now I want one... think dead cat would be cool... why is the airunit way back there? cable length?
Yeah. Lots of things could have been done better with more time and funding. It has to be worthwhile, though. I needed a proof of concept, first, and that is what my projects are all about. :)
I think more people will be adopting this. Not just beginners but seasoned pilots. Just to get the different perspective. What I would want to see is a capture camera in the front for content creation but fly third person when flying through tight spaces like when Drew was going through the scraggle.
Nice idea! But you know what would be cooler? If you had a switch that switches between FPV (first person view) and TPV (third person view). It would be a banger while flying thru a tree and when you're done, you just flip a switch and go back to FPV. Now I don't know where you could fit another air unit... But with the power - I think it's easy, just assign the switch to real pit and that's it. BUT I have no idea how would you have to cameras to one fc...
Idea! Tower of props. On each motor that use the 4 hole prop mount, stack props like this. Prop on motor, use 4 stand offs with studs on one end, then another prop, then the same, as many as you want to stack! 4 towers of props on one quad!
Three things, extend the frame move the heavy parts to the CG, move the video transmitter the the CG, and 3d print a mount for the camera. Plus battery under.
If you moved the battery forward you wouldn't have to add a counterweight for the offset camera. It would however add to the pitching moment (slowing pitch movements).
I have a RatKwad, and the camera is positioned between the rear motors. So you can't see the rear propellers, but you can see everything in from of that. I have a hard time flying it because I'm usually laughing too hard.
Flynoceros already made a kick arse one similar called the Ratkwad. Still wish they'd get back in business because they made the best and coolest frames. 😥
I think this would be really beneficial for teaching beginners new tricks, they can see what the drone is actually doing and when to cut/add more throttle.
Elongate battery packs shrinking their height, have them come with a skid plate installed, bottom mount them, then this becomes super practical. The ability to navigate through tight spaces using just perspective could be huge for things like cave exploration, and forest search and rescue. You could even embolden your goggles interface with depth mapping using machine learning and VSLAM technologies. I think you guys just proved something awesome. Next do it with a 4D headless system that can do head tracking.
Being a car person, who picked up RC car and then into drones. This is the equivalent of swtiching between FWD, AWD, and a RWD's car perspective with the camera placement on the drone. Also my take away on the weight balance is to add the go pro up front like normal, you get the shots you want while having the benefits of 3rd person flying with fpv cam in the rear.. ehh?
As you change your opinion on the point of view it still looks good how about using a lighter camera setup you vets might not be comfortable with but the newbies will find it to be second nature or even another aspect view, I look forward to trying it out as a new pilot.
Makes me wish I hadn't broken my old X Fighter frame from TomoQuads. It had a top rear mounted camera cage for a really cool semi third person perspective.
In the V2 you guys should put the battery under mounted a little bit to the front so it creates a bit more weight in the front and doesnt block the view as much?
Drew was on point with that TicTok commentary. Need to put a head tracker on it then try to fly it with the motion controller! Lmao. Coming soon to Banggood......
When you mount something new on a remotely piloted vehicle (or your Cessna for that matter)you move the battery to restore balance, learned that my first day, thought everybody did.
This is pretty cool i gotta admit lol.. you just need a different style battery next time so its not in the frame so much. A thin, but maybe slightly wider battery would be perfect. or mount the battery up front somewhere inside where the fpv cam used to be to counteract the weight of the rear mounted 03 Cam.. lol. What controller and protocol TX/RX are you guys using? Looks like an awesome place! Wish there were spots like that here in NY & NJ!! Banggood Copy FPV TO TPV Drone hahaha
Would be nice if there was camera switching so you have one camera in the front and one at the back. Also if possible the one at the back with a longer cable so the air unit can be put back into the frame properly to balance it.
Only halfway through but could you relocate the battery to under the front center which would not only serve as a counter balance but also open up some view real estate?
If you have a fpv cam, a 3rd person cam and a belly cam for perching that you could toggle through would be sick. Also an electromagnetic landing coil on the belly for landing on a car roof would be a sick mod. One it lands the battery locks on and you could reach out your car window and disengage it from the roof with a button. 😊
3rd person will need a slight angle and at least one more camera for depth to work well. Hmmm, also 3rd person cameras (in gaming at least) are not static, the variations in camera position allows for better situational awareness.
FPV drones for whatever reason have always lagged behind in terms of the latest advances in technology from high frame rates to high performance cameras. Those components always end up in the Mavic pros. However I much prefer the FPV perspective and ability to really judge the distance to various obstacles and targets, so I continue to wait for FPV drones to *slowly* incorporate the tech that's in the Mavics of the past year or two. Would this allow any Mavic to be converted to an FPV drone?
Low mount the battery forward to clean the view and help with weight 👍
I love how you executed this!!! Love it, good job guys!!! ❤
It was amazing, it's just too bad they didn't try to drive a car while looking through a following quad's fpv cam 😜
Thanks for the idea, buddy. :)
never thought I'd see you here again lol
Only you could Invision this 🤣
I absolutely love this idea 👊
Great video idea, well-shot and executed as usual boys. I say a re-do/update is in order with a properly tuned drone compensating for the weight offset, and a bottom mounted battery. I think it would take the immersion and feel to the next level!
It's a good perspective to see how the drone is moving when tricks are done, the ones than can be done with that setup anyway.
Nice! Love these kinds of videos... And Drew's TikTok impression was perfect
yea hahah
Honestly a legit chasecam build if you can clean up the view a bit and move the battery forward.
Or battery mounted inside, or under. Fully agree
Try it with the battery on the bottom perhaps? Down and front could even help with the center of gravity a bit as well.
Honestly awesome. I hope this type of flying gets more popular.
crazy idea. mak a kamera in the front to where u can switch for proper fpv and 3pv in tight spaces or after a crash to check if everithing is fine or something
That’s hilarious because that is how I set up my Tiny Trainer and Runcam Thumb. Sometimes I set the camera angle like that for videos. I’m glad to see I am not the only one thinking like this.
We need to see you try some toroidal props! Im new to FPV drones trying simulators and getting the hang of it. Seeing these creative ideas give me hope for a new hoppy to last a while!
Very intriguing, well done guys!
I think another thing that may help new pilots is how easy it was to spot when you were flying skewed, it may assist people to actually fly straight when learning.
I got into drones because I felt like I was in the drivers seat of a Star Wars speeder, but the learning curve on trying to develop the spatial awareness needed to fly decent was steep. I feel like this would have offered me the ability to grow faster and with more confidence. The question then is, could you, or would you be able to make the swap to FPV from TPV without the ridiculous curve.
Did you use a simulator? I cant imagine starting without one. I got a sim cus i really wanted to fly fpv and there was many hours of failed acro that almost made me give up, if i tried to learn on a real quad im sure i would have crashed instantly and given up. However after 50 hours in the sim when i flew my first real quad it was smooth sailing.
@@andrewut7ya511 yeah same here. I put about 32 hours in on liftoff before i ever flew my drone i bought and after getting super comfortable with whipping it around on the sim i picked up the real deal and it felt amazing. Couldnt imagine how many part si would have broke just sending it without the sim because the early hours of the sim itself was wreck fest until i got throttle control down.
Super dead-cat 8 inch rear arms with the usual 5 inch props....I've been away from watching fro a while guys and I rally love how things are coming along. This editing is superb. Funny and intriguing and just all round great times.
Drews commentary 👌 on point!
So much fun. You should put the battery under the frame to have the best visibility !
or on the front, for balance
@@Morpheus981 Battery in the front makes for a nice firework when you crash.
So cool. I've been wanting to try this for awhile! Great video as usual guys!
There are flight controllers with dual analog camera connections. I could see an AUX switch toggling between FPV & TPV.
I have that in mine. just a super light carbon arm in the back with a micro camera looing down onto the drone. its insane for landing, while the fpv cam is far better for flying.
@@PatiShortiknow you gotta upload a video showing us your setup im intrigued know
Mind sharing what FC that is? Will get one for me.
I can't wait to see the builds everyone brings to Rampage!!! Bubby going all in on this 3rd person view drone!!! I'm glad you guys brought him on as a pilot, him and drib got a great vibe together lol
They kind of look like dragonflies with those tails!
For watching on video I still like the 360-cam-on-a-stick 3rd person view more. But you don't see that while flying.
Crashes look pretty crazy when you can see the drone flipping around.
Knowing if it's broke after a crash would make the walk to the drone so much better
No because orherwise you would still have a little hope🤣🤣
Or worse lol doing the walk of shame to the drone knowing it’s broke. That would be nice in the other hand tho if it’s not broke 😂
Okay now we need to see all the crash compilations! 🤣😂. Excellent video, Shawn you make FPV even more fun with all your inventions! 😁 You guys are all so much fun! Thanks for another amazing episode. 😁🤙😉
9:05 add a counterbalance? Why not just move the battery forward until it’s balanced? It will help clean up the æsthetics too
Probably done as a joke, however I'd super buy a drone like this to be honest. I can see quite a few situations where it'd absolutely be a benefit and esp for trying to get better, there's some advantages there as well. Great video guys, another great idea LetsFlyRC!
Love this kind of videos guys!
With how well it was helping you guys move in the tree branches it might be better suited for search and rescue or construction drones that need to fit in tighter spaces.
I was the same thing. Huge benefit for proximity flying! I fly a lot of scraggle and this would be nice!
I think this is just what the youtube community needs to push the awe inspiring nature of fpv freestyle out beyond the only fpvers audience. Been trying to do this with whoop for a while and just ducts in view helps non flyers feel like it is cooler. The whole drone is even better....
What's the fly time on a drone shown in this video?
@@natasunknow240 probably around 4-5 minutes
@Grant Ogard only 4-5mins shoot I guess drone flying just isn't for me.. LMFAO
@@natasunknow240 😂😂 if you're not willing to do the research to answer these questions on your own... yeah fpv ain't for you.
Some fpv quads can fly 20 minutes. Most freestyle 5" builds go for 4-5 minutes. Personally I prefer 3 and a half minutes full send. That's long enough for a pack. But I do bring 10-15 packs with me.
Agreed!!!
Amazing video bro
AMAZING VIDEO... THAT TANQ IS A BEAST... SHAWN MORRISON YOU DA MAN!!!!
great idea.. Battery in the way. as much as I love a toilet tank...
a long low fat battery would of looked more "Fighter Jet"
but... Now I want one...
think dead cat would be cool...
why is the airunit way back there? cable length?
Yeah. Lots of things could have been done better with more time and funding.
It has to be worthwhile, though. I needed a proof of concept, first, and that is what my projects are all about. :)
I'm all in with TPV !!!!
I think more people will be adopting this. Not just beginners but seasoned pilots. Just to get the different perspective. What I would want to see is a capture camera in the front for content creation but fly third person when flying through tight spaces like when Drew was going through the scraggle.
I love the 3rd person perspective. Great video
This is so awesome, now i'm gonna have to put cams on the rear of my quads. 😱 Great video.
Stop trying to scam people, enjoy your mystery box your self.
Lmao “this is great someone should make this” drew you had me rolling with that bro
This was sick . Fellas . Awesome job 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Nice idea! But you know what would be cooler? If you had a switch that switches between FPV (first person view) and TPV (third person view). It would be a banger while flying thru a tree and when you're done, you just flip a switch and go back to FPV. Now I don't know where you could fit another air unit... But with the power - I think it's easy, just assign the switch to real pit and that's it. BUT I have no idea how would you have to cameras to one fc...
5:03 LMAO SO ON-POINT ANNOYING TICK-TOCK ROBOVOICE!!!!!! 😂🤣
Idea! Tower of props. On each motor that use the 4 hole prop mount, stack props like this. Prop on motor, use 4 stand offs with studs on one end, then another prop, then the same, as many as you want to stack! 4 towers of props on one quad!
What you should do next is use a dual camera setup (cheater quad) to switch back and forth from TPV to FPV! Great video guys!!
I love that this is basically 3 generations enjoying the same hobby together...
Three things, extend the frame move the heavy parts to the CG, move the video transmitter the the CG, and 3d print a mount for the camera. Plus battery under.
Now I want that experience as we!!
Awesome and finally something new without cost involved✅
If you moved the battery forward you wouldn't have to add a counterweight for the offset camera.
It would however add to the pitching moment (slowing pitch movements).
I have a RatKwad, and the camera is positioned between the rear motors. So you can't see the rear propellers, but you can see everything in from of that.
I have a hard time flying it because I'm usually laughing too hard.
So cool seeing the quad work the motors are so smooth.
Hi gang, I have been seeing a lot of drones in the community on Facebook with the cam on the back, looks very cool
Flynoceros already made a kick arse one similar called the Ratkwad. Still wish they'd get back in business because they made the best and coolest frames. 😥
Josh said he's getting the band back together, look for Flyno 2025
I think this would be really beneficial for teaching beginners new tricks, they can see what the drone is actually doing and when to cut/add more throttle.
Cool, Ive been wanting somebody to try thyis forever. Its called the Chase view
Elongate battery packs shrinking their height, have them come with a skid plate installed, bottom mount them, then this becomes super practical. The ability to navigate through tight spaces using just perspective could be huge for things like cave exploration, and forest search and rescue. You could even embolden your goggles interface with depth mapping using machine learning and VSLAM technologies. I think you guys just proved something awesome. Next do it with a 4D headless system that can do head tracking.
Being a car person, who picked up RC car and then into drones. This is the equivalent of swtiching between FWD, AWD, and a RWD's car perspective with the camera placement on the drone. Also my take away on the weight balance is to add the go pro up front like normal, you get the shots you want while having the benefits of 3rd person flying with fpv cam in the rear.. ehh?
pretty awsome guys what a concept
moving the gopro to the back of my drone from now on. o3 is good enough for front camera view
As you change your opinion on the point of view it still looks good how about using a lighter camera setup you vets might not be comfortable with but the newbies will find it to be second nature or even another aspect view, I look forward to trying it out as a new pilot.
should have put that lipo on the bottom that would have been sooo nice :) love it though
was doing this on Liftoff several days ago
Makes me wish I hadn't broken my old X Fighter frame from TomoQuads. It had a top rear mounted camera cage for a really cool semi third person perspective.
FPV camera as ballast on the front? Option to switch between FPF and 3PV?
In the V2 you guys should put the battery under mounted a little bit to the front so it creates a bit more weight in the front and doesnt block the view as much?
Kinda reminds me of the Flynoceros RatKwad POV
That is so sick 🤙🏻🤙🏻
lol the TikTok bit was hilariously on point...
This is line of sight taken to the next level...
Nice idea,
Can you make a VR drone with two cameras? So you can see in 3D...
Maybe should strap the battery bottom nose of the kwad instead on top
Very nice video
I did this last summer. And I did make a tiktok. There is a learning curve to the view.
why would you put the dji unit way in the back? why not towards the center to help with the cg
Great episode, 👍
Flynoceros did a frame for this a few years ago. It might have been called hot rod I think, though I could be wrong on the name
Looks awesome!!🔥
It will be really cool if you disarm the quad when it's high up in the air like photoshopped, like quad pasted over regular photo.
Drew was on point with that TicTok commentary. Need to put a head tracker on it then try to fly it with the motion controller! Lmao. Coming soon to Banggood......
When you mount something new on a remotely piloted vehicle (or your Cessna for that matter)you move the battery to restore balance, learned that my first day, thought everybody did.
Very cool 🤩
Next ... install 2 camera FPV & TPV change over on switch
Did it on kwad retrieval kwad episode 😊
WHAT ABOUT MOUNTING A 5th MOTOR ONTOP OF THE CAMERA ARM. Would that offset the weight? Is it possible?
Ive always wanted to do this! I wonder if you put the battery on the bottom toward the front if it would have balanced better. Thanks for a fun one!
This is pretty cool i gotta admit lol.. you just need a different style battery next time so its not in the frame so much. A thin, but maybe slightly wider battery would be perfect. or mount the battery up front somewhere inside where the fpv cam used to be to counteract the weight of the rear mounted 03 Cam.. lol.
What controller and protocol TX/RX are you guys using?
Looks like an awesome place! Wish there were spots like that here in NY & NJ!!
Banggood Copy FPV TO TPV Drone hahaha
Thta was fun to watch!
Make a horse shoe frame, that way you can have everything in the back, motors still in the right position, and nothng blocking the front view :)
Totally awesome! Call it the dragonfly.
I would definitely pay Rotor Riot to build me one!
Would be nice if there was camera switching so you have one camera in the front and one at the back. Also if possible the one at the back with a longer cable so the air unit can be put back into the frame properly to balance it.
Was just thinking. What if you went with 6 motors instead of a quad. Other pair of motors could be set up behind the camera.
Can't wait to buy this on banggood!
Lmao
Only halfway through but could you relocate the battery to under the front center which would not only serve as a counter balance but also open up some view real estate?
put the battery on the bottom and forward more, better vision and better balance
Do you suppose you could use stronger motors in the back to compensate for extra weight?
What if you put the battery more forward and bottom mount it? 🎉
If you have a fpv cam, a 3rd person cam and a belly cam for perching that you could toggle through would be sick. Also an electromagnetic landing coil on the belly for landing on a car roof would be a sick mod. One it lands the battery locks on and you could reach out your car window and disengage it from the roof with a button. 😊
*once
I still see the yellow/orange pool noodles I brought out there last year!! Is the PVC gate still there?! Lmaoooo!!!! 🤙
3rd person will need a slight angle and at least one more camera for depth to work well. Hmmm, also 3rd person cameras (in gaming at least) are not static, the variations in camera position allows for better situational awareness.
FPV drones for whatever reason have always lagged behind in terms of the latest advances in technology from high frame rates to high performance cameras. Those components always end up in the Mavic pros. However I much prefer the FPV perspective and ability to really judge the distance to various obstacles and targets, so I continue to wait for FPV drones to *slowly* incorporate the tech that's in the Mavics of the past year or two. Would this allow any Mavic to be converted to an FPV drone?
1:56 why not put the battery on the bottom?
Dude, how about adding a laser beam and sensors to simulate dogfights ???🤔
Would it be lighter to use the camera in a more centered position but offset the viewing angle with a periscope or set of mirrors?
That is what I was thinking! Then you could make the "tail" much lighter.
Good for doing tight inspections. Like in pipes.
They made a a 3rd person view drone awhile back seen it at west coast throw down cant remember the name of it also nurk did a video like this too
These rear attachments are probably a great place to attach a streamer for streamer-cut battles.
I kinda want to try this now....