2:38 Amp clean 3:16 *TS-9* Tone 12-o-clock, Drive 12-o-clock 3:39 TS-808 Tone 12-o-clock -- Drive 12-o-clock high riff; 3:50 *TS-9* Tone 12-o-clock -- Drive 12-o-clock same licks 3:55 *TS-9* Tone 12-o-clock -- Drive 12-o-clock low riff 3:59 TS-808 low riff ______________________________________ ______________________________________ 4:54 TS-808 Tone high, Drive low, Pride and Joy 6:04 *TS-9* Tone high, Drive low, Pride and Joy _______________________________ ________________________________ 7:50 TS-808 Tone 1-o-clock -- Drive 2-o-clock Lead jam 8:40 *TS-9* Tone 1-o-clock -- Drive 2-o-clock Lead jam
hi man , thanks so much for that lovely video , its great, i`ve just order order my ts9 will arrive monday , done lots of research on ts9, but i`m glad i will have it . ND FOR ME its ts9 sound better , with that texture for soloing . ,just need to figure out where its goes in the pedals board.you a legend my friend . keep it up
I hear the differences you mentioned. In the context of this video (not hearing them live), I prefer the TS-9. It seems to be crisper and more pronounced. The TS-808 seems like it could easily get lost in the frequency soup of a live mix.
completely subjective to the setting it is on and to what pickups you are using. I prefer the 808 as it doesn't cut out sound but magnifies it. I can switch from my neck to my bridge pickup to make up for whatever frequency I want to hit.
I agree with most of the posters here. The TS9 is brighter, crisper sharper, however you describe it. Plus-it cuts thru Marty's guitar loop more clearly than TS808. And that alone would be even more important in the context of a full Blues/Rock band. (2 guitars, bass, drums)
I came upon this video because I am interested in purchasing one if these pedals. It was great to find a comparison video that did a very nice job at making my decision even tougher! Both pedals sound GREAT! I agree that the TS808 is a bit smoother then the TS9. However, it all really depends on your playing style, and ears. You can't go wrong with either pedal.
From my experience, a TS808 into a Vox AC30 is one of the greatest sounds you will ever hear and is what sold me to the TS808 in the first place! IMO the TS808 is best for handwired Amps (British especially).
YOU MARTY TAUGHT ME how to play my very first cover solo with the Fade to Black video by Metallica you made six years ago. In fact, that solo was the first thing I had ever learned to play on guitar... I was only 18. Over the years, my ability to play has grown tremendously due to that inspiration I received from you that day so many years ago and for that I am forever grateful for what it is you've meant to me in my life and to the lives of many others. Helping me find my love for guitar changed my life and always will I be thankful and appreciative for everything it is you do. Thank you Marty. 😌 Now normally I do not do this and never have I requested a video to be made... however, there is a solo I'd absolutely love if you could help me with and learn to play. It's the opening solo to "The Ballad" by Testament. Nobody has ever made a tutorial video for that song, ever! It'd be amazing if you could. Again, thank you for everything Marty, truly 🙂
These pedals have different purposes to me. The TS808 is better on its own than the TS9, but the TS9 is a god as an overdrive add for tone tweaking any distortion you're running or for already warmer amp tones. Very different uses.
TS9 came in 1981, production years 9-series where first 1981 to 1985. These two pedals are almost the same internally but TS9 had different output, what caused the pedal sound brighter and less soft or smooth. Then there was a rare ST9 Super Tube Screamer which was only sold in Europe and Australia. I got TS9DX which have more options and manual says this; TURBO : Delivers a powerful, bottom thick sound popular with today’s alterna-tive / modern rock guitarists. - HOT : Crunchier tone with boosted mids that will have sounding like you’ve just plugged into a wall of 4×12’s. then; + Mode : Grittier that the original Tube Screamer and first but here final - TS9 : The classic TS9. No modifications, exactly like the original. Classic pedal series indeed! Very nice comparsion video and nice playing.
I think that the TS808 really shines when used to push a distorted amp into a really saturated, compressed rock sound. I even use it with a fuzz face, I find that the warmer sound compared to the TS9 prevents it from getting too shrill.
I pick the 808 cause I think it looks more interesting. Definitely there's a degree of individual personality between the two of them if you match the knob positions, but either can match the other throughout most of the useful range. Classic pedals.
I love all the Tube Screamer models, but my favorite is the TS808. I recently purchased the TS808 reissue and got compliments on my tone from band members after punching it in for the first song. To my ears, it's sound is slightly more appealing than the other models. It has instantly become a valuable tool on my pedalboard.
The jam at the end with those settings has me liking the ts9 better. The grit and the cutting through sold me, even though I was rooting for the 808 the whole time.
I'm with you, Marty; I'll take the TS808 over the TS-9 any day (with a Strat). The 808 has just enough of that "warmer" tone to make the difference for me.
Fantastic comparo! It's a hard call to make between the two. I dig the rich, smooth, "creaminess" of the 808, until the TS9 comes in. Then I really enjoy the clarity. I think you're right on Marty, in that the 808 makes a great pedal for straight up lead, whereas I prefer the punch and clarity of the TS9 for everything else. I might be a little biased because I just got a TS9, but I think someone nailed it in a comment below: the TS9 has more punch for live performances, whereas the 808 would work better in the studio. Either way, great vid, keep 'em coming!
I think the 9 is brighter but the 808 sounds warmer. I use a modified TS9. Not sure exactly what was put in it or modified but it has the tone range of both and the saturation can go a lot heavier. I'd be lost without it.
Here’s my take. Both sound excellent. TS9 is noticeably brighter, especially when you switch while playing. I think if you don’t have them side by side, difference can’t be heard. Great review 🤘🤓
I have the 808 with a fender mustang plugged into a blues jr (the tweed edition or whatever it's called). It sounds like the guitar tone came from heaven.
By the time TH-cam compresses it and listening on my phone it’s hard to hear much past a little more brightness on the ts9. They both definitely sound like Tube Screamer even on my phone speakers though 😂
I like the green one. :-) I think the TS9 cuts through better with solos whether live or in a mix. 808 does have the better mellow buttery sound, love it on a Hot Rod Dlx III with some amp drive. But, and this is the catch, they react differently to pickups and amps. So, it all depends on what you play and with backing or not and what setup you have. Personally love both, can't go wrong with the green. I'll bet if people listen to this video with 10" monitor speakers on a good system they get a whole different view than from $100 logitechs. Just sayin'.... Equipment, equipment, equipment. We can never have enough.
I have an 808 and love it. The TS-9 still sounds cool, but it's more focused and punchy. The 808 is more of a chameleon that enhances the amp across the guitar's whole range.
I can definitely hear what you're saying about them. The sound of the TS-9 had a sharper edge to it, which may be good or bad depending on what you want. I think for the Strat the 808 sounds better. Would have liked to have heard them with your Les Paul too. Thanks for another good video, Marty!
I like both, ts808 for the vintage smooth cracked sound and the extra spice included and because I like SRV, and ts9 for the brightness and attack with which you can cut the silence sharp
The TS8 seems like it removes some high end and the TS9 seems like it adds a little. With the tone cranked, I feel the 9 has a little too much on the high end but at 12 oclock I prefer the TS9. So it comes down to settings for me.
TS808 is less compressed and more transparent but the TS9 can help better on tight blues riffs, which provide a better result in terms of punch. Both sound (very) good to me.
Great video. As presented, I think that they sound increasingly similar as the drive gets cranked up, not sure how tweaking the tone and level more would affect this. But with low drive and high tone, the 808 sounded a lot better, warmer to me.
I think you should try to match the sound, rather than the position of the knobs. To my ears, the TS9 needs to be dialed back ever so slightly to make it sound like the TS808. If the knobs on the TS808 max out at 10, the TS9 can probably go up to 11.
I think a good summary of these pedals would be that the 9 has a bit better tone at low drive, whereas the 808 sounds better when the drive is turned up. I felt that the depth of the 808 shines a little more at high drive, but they’re so similar I feel that the difference is negligible. It’s like having 2 power drills made by the same brand, but 1 year apart, the differences are so minor that only someone highly trained to notices any difference
For us bedroom players, it would be nice if you could compare the more expensive pedals (like the Ibanezz) to cheaper alternatives (in this case like the Danelectro D-2 FAB, which is about 10% the price of the Ibanez).
The danelectro d-2 fab is okay, but no where near as good as a tube screamer.it’d be a great starter pedal for the price tho esp if it motivates you to keep playing!! Good luck!
TS9 has more scream. TS808 is more mellow. I like them both. I played a TS9 back in the 80's when they first came out. So I am partial to it for nostalgic reasons. So, if I ever get back into playing electric I would go with the TS9.
I have a TS808, Squier CV 50’s Telecaster and a Fender Blues Junior IV. I struggled at first to find out what was the big thing about this pedal. If you are looking for big distortion this pedal is not for you. It is famous for pushing a breaking up amp to get that breakup from the tubes and I have to agree. It is an amazing pedal but in my opinion it has it’s limitations although very few of them. God bless!!!
Thanks Marty well done video as usual. I could definitely hear the differences I myself prefer the 808 ironically I came across your video because I recently bought an 808 and I never owned one until today and I really like it as far as the ts9 I don't have that but by your comparison I can say I I think I chose the right pedal with the 808 for my preferences. Cheers
I have both the TS808 and TS9 on my board. I use the TS808 for warmer drive and the TS9 when I want a little harder drive. And the two together when I want to fly like a maniac over the clouds. I have a story about my TS9. I did a lot of research and pulled pictures of the boards for all versions of the TS9 (or so I thought). My plan was to replace a couple of components and drop in the really good op-amp and make it more like an 808. I found a TS9 on ebay for $70 and bought it. When it arrived I opened it up and was surprised to see that the board looked nothing like any of the pictures I had found and it had the really good op-amp. Maybe I missed something in my research. I will never know. Whatever the case, I closed the TS9 up and left it just like it was.
Ts9 is the one I keep going to, I want to purchase the 808 just to have, but the Ts9 totally suits my playing, I've had many compliments about the Sound.
I played the ts9 for a few years and loved it..tried the 808 at the music store ....bought it on the spot...took the 9 off the board and put the 808 on..
Awesome, Marty. I run both. TS9 as the pre (front) overdrive at the start of my pedal chain to push the downstream effects when I want. The 808 as post (end). This allows me to stack them with each other (thank you, SRV!) or with the pedals in between. I like the 808 at the end because it simulates an overdriven amp if I am playing clean but want to be able to get the full range of fuzz from my Fuzz Faces.
Its just like choosing an amp or pickups. U want attack and clarity or sweeter tone. Actually you could choose based on what u have already. If youre tone is super sweet then maybe go with the ts9. If its bitey, the 808
Ts9 sounds vicious through an amp cranked to where it breaks up.. roll the tone back to a hair before half with volume at about 3/4 and the drive at 1/4. You'll see what I mean lol.
I've owned a few pedal's from that era. I could get pretty much any tone I was wanting depending on the circumstance, recording, playing live with a band or alone. I don't hear that much difference between the two that would be a deal breaker for me. I would like to try the same A/B test and fiddle with that tone knob. I had and original Marshall Guv'nor back then that was pretty cool. They are high dollar now too.
Tick Bryan I still have my Marshall gov’ner (sorry for misspelling) after all these 25 years... I hated the way the graphics on it looked... so I covered it in electrical tape except the Marshall logo.🤣🤣🤣 But I loved the sound... so I kept it. I haven’t thought about that pedal in years. I’ll have to go find it and play it once more.👍💪
Have owned a TS9 for a lotta years. I thought I'd like the TS808 MORE ,WITH ALL THE HYPE ON THE 808 . BUT hearing this shootout, I am really happy with my TS9.I'll keep it. If I find a real steal on a 808 I'd maybe buy it ,only if someone sold it for a blowout price. Ts9 over ts808 .
In the first and third comparison the TS9 was set louder and that's why it sounds a tiny more trebly (any recorded track will sound more trebly if you raise its volume). In the second comparison the tone knob of the TS9 was clearly set higher than the TS808, so again it sounded harsher. Actually if you change those two output buffer resistors and convert a TS9 into a TS808 you gain a (very) tiny more presence, so the opposite of what you say at the beginning.
Great vid. Debated this choice a while. Having many guitars, I'm glad I went TS-9. And I got it for $99 on SW. With humbuckers, you need that extra bite. Also, with my 65 Princeton and Strat, I'm very pleased. You can warm it up if you need to. You probably won't. P-90's? Hell yes TS-9 is a beastly combo with P-90's, bridge or neck. Cheers Marty!
Meet a guy to buy a guitar and it wasn't what I was exactly looking for but said well I've had this pedal I was going to give away with the guitar I'll sell for 25 bucks. I said ok without knowing anything about it but it's one of these ts808s.
In the 80s, Ibanez pedals were considered 2nd best to Boss, believe it or not - I coudn't afford a Boss flanger, so I bought an Ibanez and excellent it was too! I remember guitarists with the TS9 - one band mate had a TS9 and a Big Muff plus a cheap MXR phaser going through a clean Peavey combo; hard to beat and not expensive at the time. Heady daze mate, heady daze. So, my verdict: The 808 is smoother and sweeter, so better for studio, but the TS9 will cut more when you're playing live. One of each then.
@@carlbaumeister3439 Yeah. He used the 808 in the earlier days, but when the TS9 came out he switched over to that. I’ve seen a picture of his little pedalboard he had. Watch this video, this guy talks about SRV and talks about SRV’s guitar tech who revealed what SRV tan gear wise. He also took care of his amps as well. th-cam.com/video/AbKe_nash-g/w-d-xo.html
Hi! I've just learnt Black And Blue Bird by Dave Matthews Band and thought it's a perfect song to make a lesson about. It took me some time to figure out the timing (3x 5/8 1x6/8 and 6/8 in chorus). It's also fun to play it as a fingerstyle excercise.
I play an American strat down to E flat and my Ernie Ball MusicMan Cutlass at standard through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3..I think they are powerful enough without the extra TS9 vibe..I may go with the 808 to keep things ear friendly
I have a very old 808 that I’ve gigged with for decades, and use the TS 9 also. I play through a Twin, I mostly use them instead of a volume pedal for soloing. Way back there I used them with some flanger, I’m gonna say I prefer the 808 it’s never had any issues other than I hate the small switch. I’ve had two of the TS 9’s fail when they were relatively new. I also use the Ibanez Gem, it’s bad ass do a review on that one Marty
My favorite combo is my Les Paul Traditional with Pearly Gates pickups through the TS808 into my Blackstar club 50 ... Sweet sounds... It makes me want to grow my beard long and play ZZ Top tunes..
My takeaway: 808 best overall sound. A tad warmer and more rounded. Less upper mid focused? 9 better at cutting through. I heard SRV sound more with the 9.
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I like the green one
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I see only two grays
Plot twist: They’re talking about the guitar
I like it too
I am sure that the green one is better that the green one
No-one is green,bro
2:38 Amp clean
3:16 *TS-9* Tone 12-o-clock, Drive 12-o-clock
3:39 TS-808 Tone 12-o-clock -- Drive 12-o-clock high riff; 3:50 *TS-9* Tone 12-o-clock -- Drive 12-o-clock same licks
3:55 *TS-9* Tone 12-o-clock -- Drive 12-o-clock low riff
3:59 TS-808 low riff
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4:54 TS-808 Tone high, Drive low, Pride and Joy
6:04 *TS-9* Tone high, Drive low, Pride and Joy
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7:50 TS-808 Tone 1-o-clock -- Drive 2-o-clock Lead jam
8:40 *TS-9* Tone 1-o-clock -- Drive 2-o-clock Lead jam
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differentation is clear, ts9 wins
TS9 = Quack/Clarity
TS808 = Creamy/Subtle
hi man , thanks so much for that lovely video , its great, i`ve just order order my ts9 will arrive monday , done lots of research on ts9, but i`m glad i will have it .
ND FOR ME its ts9 sound better , with that texture for soloing . ,just need to figure out where its goes in the pedals board.you a legend my friend . keep it up
My ears like the sound of the TS808 but my bank account likes the sound of the TS9.
A Bell ikr hella expensive I don’t know what to do
My money are hiding after watching this video
Mini tube screamer....
2 resistors difference!
Buy used
I hear the differences you mentioned. In the context of this video (not hearing them live), I prefer the TS-9. It seems to be crisper and more pronounced. The TS-808 seems like it could easily get lost in the frequency soup of a live mix.
completely subjective to the setting it is on and to what pickups you are using. I prefer the 808 as it doesn't cut out sound but magnifies it. I can switch from my neck to my bridge pickup to make up for whatever frequency I want to hit.
I use both live, they both cut through as good as each other if they are set up right
I prefer the sound of ts808. I like the warmer sound. I really enjoy your channel. Thanks for all you do.
They both sound great!! I only have the mini, it also sounds great. For me the TS9 sounds sharper and brighter, 808 is thicker, creamier.
I think you nailed it
They sound the same. As all the tube screamers.
Interestingly, the 808 having that creamy quality. Depending on your amp it can have a sound that sounds similar to the TS9 with the sharper attack
I agree with most of the posters here. The TS9 is brighter, crisper sharper, however you describe it. Plus-it cuts thru Marty's guitar loop more clearly than TS808. And that alone would be even more important in the context of a full Blues/Rock band. (2 guitars, bass, drums)
To me both pedals sound great, for these days sound I would prefer TS9 because I love a brighter sound.
Thanks to Marty for sharing !
Depending on your amp, you can get that bright sound too with the other pedal
I came upon this video because I am interested in purchasing one if these pedals. It was great to find a comparison video that did a very nice job at making my decision even tougher! Both pedals sound GREAT! I agree that the TS808 is a bit smoother then the TS9. However, it all really depends on your playing style, and ears. You can't go wrong with either pedal.
From my experience, a TS808 into a Vox AC30 is one of the greatest sounds you will ever hear and is what sold me to the TS808 in the first place! IMO the TS808 is best for handwired Amps (British especially).
YOU MARTY TAUGHT ME how to play my very first cover solo with the Fade to Black video by Metallica you made six years ago. In fact, that solo was the first thing I had ever learned to play on guitar... I was only 18. Over the years, my ability to play has grown tremendously due to that inspiration I received from you that day so many years ago and for that I am forever grateful for what it is you've meant to me in my life and to the lives of many others. Helping me find my love for guitar changed my life and always will I be thankful and appreciative for everything it is you do. Thank you Marty. 😌
Now normally I do not do this and never have I requested a video to be made... however, there is a solo I'd absolutely love if you could help me with and learn to play. It's the opening solo to "The Ballad" by Testament. Nobody has ever made a tutorial video for that song, ever! It'd be amazing if you could. Again, thank you for everything Marty, truly 🙂
These pedals have different purposes to me. The TS808 is better on its own than the TS9, but the TS9 is a god as an overdrive add for tone tweaking any distortion you're running or for already warmer amp tones. Very different uses.
U weren’t kidding about the 9 ,definitely a lil harsh on the high end. The 808 to me, is more smooth / even across the frequencies
TS9 came in 1981, production years 9-series where first 1981 to 1985. These two pedals are almost the same internally but TS9 had different output, what caused the pedal sound brighter and less soft or smooth. Then there was a rare ST9 Super Tube Screamer which was only sold in Europe and Australia. I got TS9DX which have more options and manual says this; TURBO : Delivers a powerful, bottom thick sound popular with today’s alterna-tive / modern rock guitarists. - HOT : Crunchier tone with boosted mids that will have sounding like you’ve just plugged into a wall of 4×12’s. then; + Mode : Grittier that the original Tube Screamer and first but here final - TS9 : The classic TS9. No modifications, exactly like the original. Classic pedal series indeed!
Very nice comparsion video and nice playing.
I think that the TS808 really shines when used to push a distorted amp into a really saturated, compressed rock sound. I even use it with a fuzz face, I find that the warmer sound compared to the TS9 prevents it from getting too shrill.
Have both since they came out,play hard rock and metal so it's always been the ts9
ts808 + fender amp + strat anyday of the week for me.
Saaame
Almost the same, but I'm digging my Supro.
ts808 + princeton reverb reissue 65 + american strat; what do you think of that setup?
Jeremie Berdugo fender american special + ts 808 + another ts 808, fender super reverb = god= best tone ever= stevie ray vaughan
how about klon->ts808
I pick the 808 cause I think it looks more interesting. Definitely there's a degree of individual personality between the two of them if you match the knob positions, but either can match the other throughout most of the useful range. Classic pedals.
I run a Strat with Texas Specials through a TS808 into a Fender Twin Reverb. "Marty had a little Strat......it's paint was black as coal yeah"
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I always thought the 808 sounded a little muddy - TS9 always more clarity. But you’re playing is so good, they both sound fantastic!
I´d prefer TS808 for basis and Ts9 FOR SOLO! Thanks for showing! Thanks! Obrigado
I love all the Tube Screamer models, but my favorite is the TS808. I recently purchased the TS808 reissue and got compliments on my tone from band members after punching it in for the first song. To my ears, it's sound is slightly more appealing than the other models. It has instantly become a valuable tool on my pedalboard.
The jam at the end with those settings has me liking the ts9 better. The grit and the cutting through sold me, even though I was rooting for the 808 the whole time.
I'm with you, Marty; I'll take the TS808 over the TS-9 any day (with a Strat). The 808 has just enough of that "warmer" tone to make the difference for me.
Fantastic comparo! It's a hard call to make between the two. I dig the rich, smooth, "creaminess" of the 808, until the TS9 comes in. Then I really enjoy the clarity. I think you're right on Marty, in that the 808 makes a great pedal for straight up lead, whereas I prefer the punch and clarity of the TS9 for everything else. I might be a little biased because I just got a TS9, but I think someone nailed it in a comment below: the TS9 has more punch for live performances, whereas the 808 would work better in the studio. Either way, great vid, keep 'em coming!
clarity can be achieved on the 808 via simple amp/guitar adjustments. I suppose it just depends on how one is used to playing in their default setup.
I came here for the pedals, stayed for the jams. Nice Grooves Marty!
I own the TS808. Best for my blues songwriting and -playing
Excellent video. I was surprised how much I enjoyed the 808 on its own, but for me, at the end in the mix, the TS9 just sets you apart. Love it!
I COMPLETELY agree! I preferred the 808 in the beginning and then switched out to the TS9 at the end.
TS9 for sure!!! Love your strat man! Glad to see a fellow strat owner jamming out
The TS9 has my vote! Think I'll buy one.
I think the 9 is brighter but the 808 sounds warmer. I use a modified TS9. Not sure exactly what was put in it or modified but it has the tone range of both and the saturation can go a lot heavier. I'd be lost without it.
Here’s my take. Both sound excellent. TS9 is noticeably brighter, especially when you switch while playing. I think if you don’t have them side by side, difference can’t be heard. Great review 🤘🤓
I feel the same. If I A/B'd different types of overdrives I can hear the difference, but I often can't tell a tube screamer from a bluesbreaker blind.
Man ts9 all the way
I have the 808 with a fender mustang plugged into a blues jr (the tweed edition or whatever it's called). It sounds like the guitar tone came from heaven.
By the time TH-cam compresses it and listening on my phone it’s hard to hear much past a little more brightness on the ts9. They both definitely sound like Tube Screamer even on my phone speakers though 😂
I own a Telecaster, which is pretty bright sounding as it is. So I went with the 808
Probably one of the best clean sounds I’ve ever heard!
Thank you Jimi,wherever you are.
I like the green one. :-) I think the TS9 cuts through better with solos whether live or in a mix. 808 does have the better mellow buttery sound, love it on a Hot Rod Dlx III with some amp drive. But, and this is the catch, they react differently to pickups and amps. So, it all depends on what you play and with backing or not and what setup you have. Personally love both, can't go wrong with the green. I'll bet if people listen to this video with 10" monitor speakers on a good system they get a whole different view than from $100 logitechs. Just sayin'.... Equipment, equipment, equipment. We can never have enough.
Ts808 it's one of my favorite effects ever, if not my favorite. The Ts9 is beautiful but if I have to choose the TS808 without thinking much about it.
I have an 808 and love it. The TS-9 still sounds cool, but it's more focused and punchy. The 808 is more of a chameleon that enhances the amp across the guitar's whole range.
I can definitely hear what you're saying about them. The sound of the TS-9 had a sharper edge to it, which may be good or bad depending on what you want. I think for the Strat the 808 sounds better. Would have liked to have heard them with your Les Paul too. Thanks for another good video, Marty!
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Ts9
I'd go for the green one.
The bite of the 9 makes it the winner to my ears.
I like both, ts808 for the vintage smooth cracked sound and the extra spice included and because I like SRV, and ts9 for the brightness and attack with which you can cut the silence sharp
SRV used a ts9 for all the successful part of his career
He used the 808 for a couple years in the early 80s
Put that ts9 in front of you high gain amp, and thats it. Ts9+ Orange dark terror= Brutal tight hardcore tone😍
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They both sound good, it comes down to personal preference!
But with Marty rocking the pedals, it makes you want to get both... 🎸✌🏿💯👍🏿
The TS8 seems like it removes some high end and the TS9 seems like it adds a little. With the tone cranked, I feel the 9 has a little too much on the high end but at 12 oclock I prefer the TS9. So it comes down to settings for me.
The TS9DX was the one for me, that extra stage just really does it for me
TS808 is less compressed and more transparent but the TS9 can help better on tight blues riffs, which provide a better result in terms of punch. Both sound (very) good to me.
Great video. As presented, I think that they sound increasingly similar as the drive gets cranked up, not sure how tweaking the tone and level more would affect this. But with low drive and high tone, the 808 sounded a lot better, warmer to me.
I prefer the cleaner sound of the TS9 and my bank account agrees! Thank you for confirming!
TS9 has more bite.....made my decision getting one.
I think you should try to match the sound, rather than the position of the knobs. To my ears, the TS9 needs to be dialed back ever so slightly to make it sound like the TS808. If the knobs on the TS808 max out at 10, the TS9 can probably go up to 11.
yeah the ts9 s high end on my headphones made me turn down the volume, but i could still listen to it full blast on the 8. cool demos!
I think the TS9 REALLY shinned at the 2nd part of the demo!!!
I think a good summary of these pedals would be that the 9 has a bit better tone at low drive, whereas the 808 sounds better when the drive is turned up. I felt that the depth of the 808 shines a little more at high drive, but they’re so similar I feel that the difference is negligible. It’s like having 2 power drills made by the same brand, but 1 year apart, the differences are so minor that only someone highly trained to notices any difference
For us bedroom players, it would be nice if you could compare the more expensive pedals (like the Ibanezz) to cheaper alternatives (in this case like the Danelectro D-2 FAB, which is about 10% the price of the Ibanez).
Check his video: Behringer TO800 vs Ibanez TS9 . /watch?v=Nq27ABBrdt4
You also may try the TS mini. Same circuit as the TS808 but less than half the price. I have one and love it.
The danelectro d-2 fab is okay, but no where near as good as a tube screamer.it’d be a great starter pedal for the price tho esp if it motivates you to keep playing!! Good luck!
@@YCK96 If it has the same circuit, then what's the difference?
@@51MontyPython It's smaller, you can't run it with a battery and it's true bypass instead of buffered. Other than that it's overall the same.
TS9 has more scream. TS808 is more mellow. I like them both. I played a TS9 back in the 80's when they first came out. So I am partial to it for nostalgic reasons. So, if I ever get back into playing electric I would go with the TS9.
I have a TS9 and that is the sound I have😁
Use it on guitar, bass and 1979 Korg CX3. Adding a T808 is on the list but sitting about # 8 in priority.
Nice vid dude thanks. For anyone reading remember that SRV used an 808 NOT a TS9 as so many seem to think.
You play my kind of vibe, lots of neck pup bell tones above the 12th fret, love it.
Whenever I hear you play Marty, I get happy inside.
I have a TS808, Squier CV 50’s Telecaster and a Fender Blues Junior IV. I struggled at first to find out what was the big thing about this pedal. If you are looking for big distortion this pedal is not for you. It is famous for pushing a breaking up amp to get that breakup from the tubes and I have to agree. It is an amazing pedal but in my opinion it has it’s limitations although very few of them. God bless!!!
Thanks Marty well done video as usual. I could definitely hear the differences I myself prefer the 808 ironically I came across your video because I recently bought an 808 and I never owned one until today and I really like it as far as the ts9 I don't have that but by your comparison I can say I I think I chose the right pedal with the 808 for my preferences. Cheers
I have both the TS808 and TS9 on my board. I use the TS808 for warmer drive and the TS9 when I want a little harder drive. And the two together when I want to fly like a maniac over the clouds. I have a story about my TS9. I did a lot of research and pulled pictures of the boards for all versions of the TS9 (or so I thought). My plan was to replace a couple of components and drop in the really good op-amp and make it more like an 808. I found a TS9 on ebay for $70 and bought it. When it arrived I opened it up and was surprised to see that the board looked nothing like any of the pictures I had found and it had the really good op-amp. Maybe I missed something in my research. I will never know. Whatever the case, I closed the TS9 up and left it just like it was.
Ts9 is the one I keep going to, I want to purchase the 808 just to have, but the Ts9 totally suits my playing, I've had many compliments about the Sound.
I played the ts9 for a few years and loved it..tried the 808 at the music store ....bought it on the spot...took the 9 off the board and put the 808 on..
@@zoso2850 now I have to buy the 808 dude 😂😂😂
After a good year of watching Marty play, I just have to say you are an awesome guitar player😊 keep up the good work.
Awesome, Marty. I run both. TS9 as the pre (front) overdrive at the start of my pedal chain to push the downstream effects when I want. The 808 as post (end). This allows me to stack them with each other (thank you, SRV!) or with the pedals in between. I like the 808 at the end because it simulates an overdriven amp if I am playing clean but want to be able to get the full range of fuzz from my Fuzz Faces.
Its just like choosing an amp or pickups. U want attack and clarity or sweeter tone. Actually you could choose based on what u have already. If youre tone is super sweet then maybe go with the ts9. If its bitey, the 808
Ts9 sounds vicious through an amp cranked to where it breaks up.. roll the tone back to a hair before half with volume at about 3/4 and the drive at 1/4. You'll see what I mean lol.
who the hell can afford to play at these volumes lol?
I've owned a few pedal's from that era. I could get pretty much any tone I was wanting depending on the circumstance, recording, playing live with a band or alone. I don't hear that much difference between the two that would be a deal breaker for me. I would like to try the same A/B test and fiddle with that tone knob. I had and original Marshall Guv'nor back then that was pretty cool. They are high dollar now too.
Tick Bryan
I still have my Marshall gov’ner (sorry for misspelling) after all these 25 years...
I hated the way the graphics on it looked... so I covered it in electrical tape except the Marshall logo.🤣🤣🤣
But I loved the sound... so I kept it.
I haven’t thought about that pedal in years.
I’ll have to go find it and play it once more.👍💪
Have owned a TS9 for a lotta years. I thought I'd like the TS808 MORE ,WITH ALL THE HYPE ON THE 808 . BUT hearing this shootout, I am really happy with my TS9.I'll keep it. If I find a real steal on a 808 I'd maybe buy it ,only if someone sold it for a blowout price. Ts9 over ts808 .
Thank you Marty!
Something in you only shows what a pedal is all abbout.
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In the first and third comparison the TS9 was set louder and that's why it sounds a tiny more trebly (any recorded track will sound more trebly if you raise its volume). In the second comparison the tone knob of the TS9 was clearly set higher than the TS808, so again it sounded harsher. Actually if you change those two output buffer resistors and convert a TS9 into a TS808 you gain a (very) tiny more presence, so the opposite of what you say at the beginning.
I really like the brightness of the T09 especially for live shows and solos I would prefer the T09
Interesting, I like the sound of the 808 more lower strings and love the brightness of the higher strings on the TS9
I liked the TS808. They both scream through a tube very well though.
For me, it TS808 for blues and TS9 for metal (driving a high gain amp)
Great vid. Debated this choice a while. Having many guitars, I'm glad I went TS-9. And I got it for $99 on SW. With humbuckers, you need that extra bite. Also, with my 65 Princeton and Strat, I'm very pleased. You can warm it up if you need to. You probably won't. P-90's? Hell yes TS-9 is a beastly combo with P-90's, bridge or neck. Cheers Marty!
808 all the way
Meet a guy to buy a guitar and it wasn't what I was exactly looking for but said well I've had this pedal I was going to give away with the guitar I'll sell for 25 bucks. I said ok without knowing anything about it but it's one of these ts808s.
Marty, I’d love to buy you a drink if I ever run into you. Been watching you for years and your a stand up guy. Right on.
In the 80s, Ibanez pedals were considered 2nd best to Boss, believe it or not - I coudn't afford a Boss flanger, so I bought an Ibanez and excellent it was too! I remember guitarists with the TS9 - one band mate had a TS9 and a Big Muff plus a cheap MXR phaser going through a clean Peavey combo; hard to beat and not expensive at the time. Heady daze mate, heady daze. So, my verdict: The 808 is smoother and sweeter, so better for studio, but the TS9 will cut more when you're playing live. One of each then.
You’re right, Marty. The 808 is better: warmer, less tinny, more responsive, more SRV.
SRV used TS9
@@BlackWolfTribe You’re sure?
@@carlbaumeister3439 Yeah. He used the 808 in the earlier days, but when the TS9 came out he switched over to that. I’ve seen a picture of his little pedalboard he had. Watch this video, this guy talks about SRV and talks about SRV’s guitar tech who revealed what SRV tan gear wise. He also took care of his amps as well. th-cam.com/video/AbKe_nash-g/w-d-xo.html
@@BlackWolfTribe Thanks!
@@carlbaumeister3439 to be exact Stevie switched to the ts-9 in 1989. If that gives you a better read on his play time frame.
It seems you have a bit more break up with the ts9 it seems to lean a bit more towards a distortion tone than just overdrive
Hi! I've just learnt Black And Blue Bird by Dave Matthews Band and thought it's a perfect song to make a lesson about. It took me some time to figure out the timing (3x 5/8 1x6/8 and 6/8 in chorus). It's also fun to play it as a fingerstyle excercise.
Everything is subjective, but for me I prefer the creamy warmer sound of the ts808 although the ts9 sounds good as well.
In a mix it doesn’t matter. They will both work fine. The mini is fine as well.
I play an American strat down to E flat and my Ernie Ball MusicMan Cutlass at standard through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3..I think they are powerful enough without the extra TS9 vibe..I may go with the 808 to keep things ear friendly
The TS9 has that U2 sound to it. They might have used it on Desire.
Thx! Great comparisons. I choose the original 808! Sweetwater's shipping us one this week!
great vid bud- excellent comparison and very helpful. i like the ts9 better - little mor highs - little more nasal sounding - little meaner
fuckin heater of a jam at the end too holy shit.
I have a very old 808 that I’ve gigged with for decades, and use the
TS 9 also. I play through a Twin, I mostly use them instead of a volume pedal for soloing. Way back there I used them with some flanger, I’m gonna say I prefer the 808 it’s never had any issues other than I hate the small switch. I’ve had two of the TS 9’s fail when they were relatively new. I also use the Ibanez Gem, it’s bad ass do a review on that one Marty
The clean sound is nice!!
I was surprised too ! What a special character, almost not pedal needed !
Its smoother than hot butter on toast
My favorite combo is my Les Paul Traditional with Pearly Gates pickups through the TS808 into my Blackstar club 50 ... Sweet sounds... It makes me want to grow my beard long and play ZZ Top tunes..
My takeaway:
808 best overall sound. A tad warmer and more rounded. Less upper mid focused?
9 better at cutting through. I heard SRV sound more with the 9.
Cool comparison! The 808 sounds more pleasing to my ears. Thanks for sharing!