Did you guy's stole him for TFL ? I knew I saw him before but could not remember were . he is a very good addition to your team he ask a lot of good questions. A+ for him and Jordan too but he is hard the the model s PLAID sorry had to dig it in Jordan.
You know what is a lot like a ranch? A university campus. Really should have put a couple 120V plugs in the bed. One for the tools, and one for the mini fridge?
Cool to see Polaris get in to the electric space again. Their old one wasn't this cool. I used to work out of that Polaris Facility, and it was a fun place to be... random days where they were doing testing on machines, so you'd get e-mails asking if you had time to go ride for a couple hours, and just record some stuff before and after. Good times :)
I love this. I've been following Zero electric motorcycles for years, and test drove them. Elon Musk gave Zero a 'big pat on the back' about how well they're doing. And I agree with you at 36:38 about the Slingshot being Ugly. It's FRIGGN UGLY !!! But I would certainly buy the new electric XP Kinetic.
Welcome Max! The cost of these things is unbelievable. Completely unjustifiable. The fact that vehicle manufacturers can make cars that meet much more stringent EPA regulations (for ICE vehicles), meet crash safety standards, and have a full interior but sell for less than even the ICE version of these is insane. A Bolt has 4 times the battery and more HP. Yes, I know a Bolt is not an off-road vehicle, but the actual manufacture process for something like a Bolt vs a side-by-side is very similar, so the fact that you can get a real street legal car vs a purely off-road vehicle that doesn’t meet any safety requirements and has way less expensive materials in it is absolutely insane. You could get a base-model F150 Lighting for only slightly more than this, but get a vehicle you could actually use vs an off-road only toy. I cannot imagine who buys these things, but they must have far more dollars and way less sense than me.
It seems like Polaris priced this model so that it won't cannibalize sales from their gas powered lineup. If it was more reasonably priced (like $10k less), the rest of their lineup would see sinking sales.
K B, thank you for the reality check. I was actually entertaining the idea of getting one of these. I'd have been an idiot to spend 30K and then have to spend extra for weather tight cab, heat, a/c, and then implements for snow & land maintenance.
Great to see electric farming things coming out and hopefully leading to more companies doing this. I think farmers and other far out of town people being able to charge from home rather than needing to go to town or truck in fuel, and then worry about fuel getting stolen, could be a game changer.
Lot of people have mentioned 120V, Max mentioned Pro onboard power. Those systems are decently expensive and probably need a little more juice to be worthwhile…
I had one of the original Ranger Northstar 1000’s that had A/C so I think I can speak for a few guys buying this type of model. The quietness of it would have been a huge draw to me. I don’t hunt any big game but that would be really beneficial to that crowd. I’d like that part just for sharing trails with others that aren’t on motorized vehicles. To me it would make being out more enjoyable. It would be nice if they had an option to add more batteries somewhere as I see that limiting some guys that would want this but the ultimate is a good step forward.
These would be great around the farm or university campuses. Cost of ownership should be really inexpensive. Not that gas/diesel is a huge cost factor, but the literal $2 for a 0-100% recharge and theoretical 0 maintenance should pay for itself in reasonable time.
Great video. I own a Ranger XD 900. Don’t use it that much since it’s more for a workhorse at the lake cabin(hauling wood from dead trees) and for grandchildren to drive around (now that they are getting to that age). I think it cost around $12,500 about 5 years ago (it was on sale) plus there were a few accessories that added more money. I think electric ATV’s are a great way to go, assuming you can justify the additional cost. I don’t think I could justify such with the amount of hours I put on end a year. At most I use a gas tank a year. Just wondering if the price includes the roof, windshield, and back window or are they accessories? Basically, what are considered accessories? Accessories tend to really increase the price (that’s where dealers make their money). Thanks again. Max, you did a great job. I live about 20 miles from Wyoming, MN. Wish I could have been on the test drive..
Hello, will this machine start on an incline from a parked situation? Will the parking brake hold and release as the accelerator depressed similar to a golf cart or do you need to two foot it? Does it have hill hold control? Thanks
Why would you compare this to a Bolt when they are two very different vehicles built for two very different uses? The Polaris isn't even street legal...
@@kentyler3962 But it's not a toy? I mean, I suppose anything is a toy if you want it to be, but these are designed and sold as utility vehicles, not recreational. Edit: Also, being street legal or not has nothing to do with cost. A tracked backhoe isn't street legal either and costs north of $100K but nobody's comparing one of those to a Bolt are they? :p
@@Smidge204 being street legal has a huge amount to do with cost. It’s very expensive to make vehicles Street legal. The cost of this thing, work vehicle or not, is unjustifiable. It’s probably 60-70% margin.
I'm a bit shocked these are running AC charging only. DC fast charging is critical for these to work on large project job sites. For use on powerlines, pipelines, road projects, need to be able to trailer them into a quick charger at the end of the day and charge up while getting dinner. The silence of EV UTV's make these well suited to those job sites, but slow AC charging only is a bad fit. I'd also think that many people getting a EV UTV are going to have a on road EV, using the CSS standard plug. CSS's support for both AC and DC charging makes it a no brainer for use in this application.
I see a lot of people buying these - it makes a lot of sense and one less fuel that's a fire risk and what you can not produce yourself that is needed for the farm etal - just plug it into a solar pannel or two - wonder if they looked at putting one or two solar pannel on the vehicle so it can self charge
I wish you guys would have driven the gas version of the XP 1000 as well as the other EV model that Polaris offers (The basic Ranger EV model which is an electrified version of the midsize 570 rather than full size and uses lead acid batteries). You're not really providing a very good comparison to your viewers without including some basic examples of the competing models. For example: You discussed how you might have to talk louder to have a conversation while driving the gas model. Talk about an understatement: With the gas UTVs I've driven: holding a conversation while driving is virtually impossible. You pretty much cannot hear another person speaking unless you're stopped on the gas models. Based on the noise level in the video: The XP Kinetic sounds about the same as the basic Ranger EV and the basic Ranger EV doesn't have any added NVH materials added to it over it's 570 gas counterpart. Btw: Polaris still sells the Ranger EV. It starts at $15k rather than $25k. While it's lead acid instead of Lithium: There are kits to convert the Ranger EV to lithium. For the money I feel like the Ranger EV is a better deal because you can get several years of service out of the lead acid batteries before they need to be replaced and then you spent maybe $6k on a Lithium upgrade which gives you roughly the same battery capacity that you get with the the $25k XP Kinetic. Or for around $8k you can get a 15kWh pack which is the same as what you get with the $30k XP Kinetic. So it's less money overall plus it's spread out over time rather than paying $25-$30k up front. My biggest frustration with these is as I noted above: The current Ranger EV already covers most of the use cases the XP Kinetic would cover. So for me they should have offered this in a Crew model (IE: two rows for seating 4-6 passengers). This new model overlaps too much with the existing EV offering. I don't see any reason why I'd spend $10-$15k more for the Kinetic over the basic Ranger EV. My family already owns 4 of these EV models on their ranch and they would have bought one or two of these Kinetic models in a heartbeat if they were offered in a crew model (4-6 passengers) instead of a 2-3 passenger model.
(MN resident checking in) I absolutely despise these vehicles when they're not on a farm or ranch, or of use for folks with mobility issues. Any other use is just a shame on the land. Thankfully there is an ICE alternative on the way from Polaris, I guess...
Completely outrageously expensive. They do have a lower model that is the Ranger EV with lead acid batteries. Polaris should have just uplifted the batteries on the base Ranger EV with Lion batteries at an affordable price. They are very out of touch with consumers on this one.
If you want QUIET, like a typical EV car, you will NOT get it!! You will never hear your tires on the road because of the WHINING of the electric motor.
@@Smidge204 You can buy the EV version drive it for several years on the Lead Acid batteries, and for around $5-$8k you can get a kit to convert it to lithium. I've converted 3 EV units to Lithium now. It's not a hard job at all. In the video they mentioned in passing but they phrased it as "Polaris USED to sell another EV model" which implies the older model is no longer available. My point is it's still available. You can go to Polaris right now and buy a 2022 Ranger EV for $15k. You don't need to drop $25-$30k on an electric UTV if you don't want/need the added power of the XP model. I personally find the 35 HP motor on the EV model to be PLENTY.
@@JeremyAkersInAustin Looks like Polaris has discontinued the more reasonable lead acid Ranger, at least I couldn't find it anywhere on their web site. I guess they're all in on screwing the public.
Hey, Max! Welcome to Out of Spec. Pumped to have another EV nerd join the team ⚡️
Did you guy's stole him for TFL ? I knew I saw him before but could not remember were . he is a very good addition to your team he ask a lot of good questions. A+ for him and Jordan too but he is hard the the model s PLAID sorry had to dig it in Jordan.
Hopefully you give Max appropriate training so that he doesn’t talk over the people he is interviewing like he did when he was at TFL
I haven't watched this yet but I'm already jealous!
Oh, damn. Max was with TFL. Noticed I hadn't seen him in a while...
You know what is a lot like a ranch? A university campus. Really should have put a couple 120V plugs in the bed. One for the tools, and one for the mini fridge?
Cool to see Polaris get in to the electric space again. Their old one wasn't this cool. I used to work out of that Polaris Facility, and it was a fun place to be... random days where they were doing testing on machines, so you'd get e-mails asking if you had time to go ride for a couple hours, and just record some stuff before and after. Good times :)
Jordan and Max made a fantastic video and the best review of the Ranger XP Kinetic! This new EV is a game changer in the UTV world!
I love this. I've been following Zero electric motorcycles for years, and test drove them. Elon Musk gave Zero a 'big pat on the back' about how well they're doing. And I agree with you at 36:38 about the Slingshot being Ugly. It's FRIGGN UGLY !!! But I would certainly buy the new electric XP Kinetic.
Welcome Max!
The cost of these things is unbelievable. Completely unjustifiable. The fact that vehicle manufacturers can make cars that meet much more stringent EPA regulations (for ICE vehicles), meet crash safety standards, and have a full interior but sell for less than even the ICE version of these is insane. A Bolt has 4 times the battery and more HP. Yes, I know a Bolt is not an off-road vehicle, but the actual manufacture process for something like a Bolt vs a side-by-side is very similar, so the fact that you can get a real street legal car vs a purely off-road vehicle that doesn’t meet any safety requirements and has way less expensive materials in it is absolutely insane. You could get a base-model F150 Lighting for only slightly more than this, but get a vehicle you could actually use vs an off-road only toy. I cannot imagine who buys these things, but they must have far more dollars and way less sense than me.
It seems like Polaris priced this model so that it won't cannibalize sales from their gas powered lineup. If it was more reasonably priced (like $10k less), the rest of their lineup would see sinking sales.
You're thinking too logical. This is priced accordingly for the market segment who has money for "toys" and not many other electric alternatives.
I agree with you 100%. !!
K B, thank you for the reality check. I was actually entertaining the idea of getting one of these. I'd have been an idiot to spend 30K and then have to spend extra for weather tight cab, heat, a/c, and then implements for snow & land maintenance.
Great to see electric farming things coming out and hopefully leading to more companies doing this. I think farmers and other far out of town people being able to charge from home rather than needing to go to town or truck in fuel, and then worry about fuel getting stolen, could be a game changer.
Hope they send one of this electric vehicles to Larson farm 🚜 youtubers now during crop season... electrificación of farms is a must 👌
Max -You ditched TFL or did OoS poach you?
This would be awesome to use with an F150 Lightning as a plowing vehicle - can charge from the Lightning while towing it!
Sad Max left TFL but it’s clear Out of Spec will fit like a glove!
Nice job, fun to see your follow-up from the day I saw you last week on Guardsman pass in Utah. Hope Mpls treated you well.
Very good review and interview.
Lot of people have mentioned 120V, Max mentioned Pro onboard power. Those systems are decently expensive and probably need a little more juice to be worthwhile…
I had one of the original Ranger Northstar 1000’s that had A/C so I think I can speak for a few guys buying this type of model. The quietness of it would have been a huge draw to me. I don’t hunt any big game but that would be really beneficial to that crowd. I’d like that part just for sharing trails with others that aren’t on motorized vehicles. To me it would make being out more enjoyable. It would be nice if they had an option to add more batteries somewhere as I see that limiting some guys that would want this but the ultimate is a good step forward.
Hope these come out one day soon. Still not released here in Feb 2023, on a list for one though.
Have one on pre-order here in Norway, hope for delivery end of 2022.
Wow we finally have a 35K EV.😏
Very underrated comment!
Would have bin nice if they also mentioned the cab space vs the previous elektric model. Entering, leg space, head space.
These would be great around the farm or university campuses. Cost of ownership should be really inexpensive. Not that gas/diesel is a huge cost factor, but the literal $2 for a 0-100% recharge and theoretical 0 maintenance should pay for itself in reasonable time.
Only a few miles from where I grew up!
Max jumped ship 🛳
I want a RZR kinnetic! that'd be a fun baby!
I'm looking forward to an electrified 4-seat RZR.
Great video. I own a Ranger XD 900. Don’t use it that much since it’s more for a workhorse at the lake cabin(hauling wood from dead trees) and for grandchildren to drive around (now that they are getting to that age). I think it cost around $12,500 about 5 years ago (it was on sale) plus there were a few accessories that added more money. I think electric ATV’s are a great way to go, assuming you can justify the additional cost. I don’t think I could justify such with the amount of hours I put on end a year. At most I use a gas tank a year.
Just wondering if the price includes the roof, windshield, and back window or are they accessories? Basically, what are considered accessories? Accessories tend to really increase the price (that’s where dealers make their money).
Thanks again. Max, you did a great job. I live about 20 miles from Wyoming, MN. Wish I could have been on the test drive..
I live just outside Wyoming, MN!
Does Polaris have factory options to make this street legal in California? (Turn signals, brake lights, ???). Thanks...
Excellent
Funny. Max looks a lot like a young man named Max whose been on TFL……….
Would like to see one on steeper terrain.
Hello, will this machine start on an incline from a parked situation? Will the parking brake hold and release as the accelerator depressed similar to a golf cart or do you need to two foot it? Does it have hill hold control? Thanks
It’s a cool machine but when you consider you can get a brand new Bolt for cheaper with a much larger battery and motor, it’s a hard sell.
Why would you compare this to a Bolt when they are two very different vehicles built for two very different uses? The Polaris isn't even street legal...
@@Smidge204 He's saying, for the cost of this toy you could buy a real car. It should be under $20k for a non street legal vehicle.
@@kentyler3962 But it's not a toy? I mean, I suppose anything is a toy if you want it to be, but these are designed and sold as utility vehicles, not recreational.
Edit: Also, being street legal or not has nothing to do with cost. A tracked backhoe isn't street legal either and costs north of $100K but nobody's comparing one of those to a Bolt are they? :p
Almost all side-by-sides are more expensive than many economy vehicles.
@@Smidge204 being street legal has a huge amount to do with cost. It’s very expensive to make vehicles Street legal. The cost of this thing, work vehicle or not, is unjustifiable. It’s probably 60-70% margin.
How would this do in snow? I'm looking for something to pull firewood out of the woods.
Why is Honda, Yamaha, and Kawasaki not keeping up in the EV market?
I'm a bit shocked these are running AC charging only. DC fast charging is critical for these to work on large project job sites. For use on powerlines, pipelines, road projects, need to be able to trailer them into a quick charger at the end of the day and charge up while getting dinner. The silence of EV UTV's make these well suited to those job sites, but slow AC charging only is a bad fit. I'd also think that many people getting a EV UTV are going to have a on road EV, using the CSS standard plug. CSS's support for both AC and DC charging makes it a no brainer for use in this application.
$30K wow bro ;that’s insane
I see a lot of people buying these - it makes a lot of sense and one less fuel that's a fire risk and what you can not produce yourself that is needed for the farm etal - just plug it into a solar pannel or two - wonder if they looked at putting one or two solar pannel on the vehicle so it can self charge
One less fire risk? hmmm...... Solar panels need to be clean so won't be very practical on an off roader.
It needs a + 50 kWh battery and a fast charge option!
It's not expensive if it doubles as a Powerwall (V2G/V2L).
Any info on that idea??
$30k or $25k with less capacity. Wow! Lots of room to compete there for other players.
I wish someone made an electric Kei truck.
"Challenge to control" Said by the guy w/o notable sxs experience, who crashed a Plaid on a flat open road due to lack of skill..
Nice
Cool toy, but THIRTY grand!?
For half that price, I'd be interested.
@@rzu7120 The basic Ranger EV is built on the 570 midsize model and starts at $15k, so half that price, as requested.
Cazy ground up EV it at this point I left the video! No clue guys!!
I wish you guys would have driven the gas version of the XP 1000 as well as the other EV model that Polaris offers (The basic Ranger EV model which is an electrified version of the midsize 570 rather than full size and uses lead acid batteries). You're not really providing a very good comparison to your viewers without including some basic examples of the competing models.
For example: You discussed how you might have to talk louder to have a conversation while driving the gas model. Talk about an understatement: With the gas UTVs I've driven: holding a conversation while driving is virtually impossible. You pretty much cannot hear another person speaking unless you're stopped on the gas models.
Based on the noise level in the video: The XP Kinetic sounds about the same as the basic Ranger EV and the basic Ranger EV doesn't have any added NVH materials added to it over it's 570 gas counterpart.
Btw: Polaris still sells the Ranger EV. It starts at $15k rather than $25k. While it's lead acid instead of Lithium: There are kits to convert the Ranger EV to lithium. For the money I feel like the Ranger EV is a better deal because you can get several years of service out of the lead acid batteries before they need to be replaced and then you spent maybe $6k on a Lithium upgrade which gives you roughly the same battery capacity that you get with the the $25k XP Kinetic. Or for around $8k you can get a 15kWh pack which is the same as what you get with the $30k XP Kinetic. So it's less money overall plus it's spread out over time rather than paying $25-$30k up front.
My biggest frustration with these is as I noted above: The current Ranger EV already covers most of the use cases the XP Kinetic would cover. So for me they should have offered this in a Crew model (IE: two rows for seating 4-6 passengers). This new model overlaps too much with the existing EV offering. I don't see any reason why I'd spend $10-$15k more for the Kinetic over the basic Ranger EV. My family already owns 4 of these EV models on their ranch and they would have bought one or two of these Kinetic models in a heartbeat if they were offered in a crew model (4-6 passengers) instead of a 2-3 passenger model.
Maybe polaris will buy zero and put more electric bikes out. How bout an electric indian or victory
I mean, would you even want to sit in a utv for 80 miles lol
(MN resident checking in) I absolutely despise these vehicles when they're not on a farm or ranch, or of use for folks with mobility issues. Any other use is just a shame on the land. Thankfully there is an ICE alternative on the way from Polaris, I guess...
Completely outrageously expensive. They do have a lower model that is the Ranger EV with lead acid batteries. Polaris should have just uplifted the batteries on the base Ranger EV with Lion batteries at an affordable price. They are very out of touch with consumers on this one.
Funny comment… “not Tesla grade”
A Tesla is cheaper than the kinetic! Hilarious
If you want QUIET, like a typical EV car, you will NOT get it!! You will never hear your tires on the road because of the WHINING of the electric motor.
More toys for the rich.
The electric version isn't even the most expensive one they sell. These are work vehicles build for specific, somewhat niche markets.
@@Smidge204 They also sell a $15k electric model which everyone seems to pretend doesn't exist as they discuss the XP Kinetic.
@@JeremyAkersInAustin Nobody talks about it because that's the one that uses Lead-Acid batteries. It WAS mentioned in passing in the video...
@@Smidge204 You can buy the EV version drive it for several years on the Lead Acid batteries, and for around $5-$8k you can get a kit to convert it to lithium. I've converted 3 EV units to Lithium now. It's not a hard job at all.
In the video they mentioned in passing but they phrased it as "Polaris USED to sell another EV model" which implies the older model is no longer available. My point is it's still available. You can go to Polaris right now and buy a 2022 Ranger EV for $15k. You don't need to drop $25-$30k on an electric UTV if you don't want/need the added power of the XP model. I personally find the 35 HP motor on the EV model to be PLENTY.
@@JeremyAkersInAustin Looks like Polaris has discontinued the more reasonable lead acid Ranger, at least I couldn't find it anywhere on their web site. I guess they're all in on screwing the public.