Duke 390 vs Svartpilen 401! Are We Being Conned?
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Yammi, you should swap the wheels and see what the Duke looks like with spokes. I've read a few forums where people are looking for spoked wheels for their Duke 390's and I think you can provide an answer to many of their questions.
The svart is electronically limited fo the first 1000km or 800 miles moreless, after the fisrt service and after the break-in period you get the same performance as the Duke, and since it´s lighter, you could theoretically go faster:)
The Svartpilen is the Duke that went to college :P
The husky actually needs a little remedial course work on execution. If anything it should have been an improvement after several years of building the duke 390 but it's not.
Stuart James sounds like college
He went to Duke university
@@wiskkid So it didn't go to an ivy league college but a mediocre state college.
So true
I have to completely agree with the ethos of the Husky. I love the idea of a neo-future styled bike for urban exploration. City streets are some of the most gravel-covered, pothole-filled, sketchy curbside places I have ever been. Street bikes, designed for silky-smooth roads and curves, really do feel out of place downtown. But an "off-road" bike wearing an urban suit is perfect.
Everyone has a Lambo poster, but the only cars I see rich people in downtown are Suburbans.
Or Subarus
excellently put
@@COYGunnersLOL Suboomaru is one of the last brands rich people buy 😂😂😂
If the Svartpilen had the Dukes display it would be perfect.
And ground clearance... 145mm vs 200mm, all that with a higher seat, ouch.
Hunter Biden's Crackpipe and a bigger fuel tank would be nice too.
Honestly, the Duke's display looks distracting AF. Too much eye-candy.
@@ericaspitzfaden4280 It's not at all
@@ericaspitzfaden4280 i agree, it would not fit the svartpilen either in my opinion
Unbolt the shift linkage and raise the shifter by one spline. I could never get to neutral on mine and after adjusting everything feels MUCH better. The linkage marks and the marks on the shaft do not line up and when assembled mine was off mark. My shifter arm was hitting the bracket on the lower side and gouged it a bit, struggled to shift to first when cold, adjusted and solved all my issues.
One nice thing that hasn't changed is both of the company's generous rounding-up approach to their cc count.
Thats pretty normal in the industry, expect that all other companys are rounding to 100, not 90. Lok at the 1290s, they actually have 1301cc.
It's still impressive ktm has a 125,200, 250,390,490(upcoming),690(discontinued recently), 790,890,1290
@@JoyBozzWell sadly they rounded up to 100, then said might as well round 001 extra for good luck.
Hey man! Just wanted to say thank you. Just bought my first bike here in Canada, was not sure about it at first, did a training course and got HOOKED. Binge watched your channel for three months and just put down the cash for my first bike at 19 years old. You helped a lot. Thank you Yammy. I see many dank nooners in my (distant) future!
Which bike did u buy?
Im saving up for a duke 390, for me it seems like the perfect bike.
Be safe brother... :)
The music you use on this channel reminds me a lot of the Classical Radio Station in Fallout 4. Love it.
I was curious as to what a 'crappy' road meant in the states and trust me it's heaven compared to some of our Indian roads. Pretty sure my Indian bros would agree.
You have roads in India?
@@richardrosario9981 yeah, once you scrape the poo away you can kind of see it
Where I live here in the north northeast US over half of our roads are still dirt lol
I'm Brazilian but I agree with you, down here we have very shitty roads as well.
@@Hobinator17 really though, this problem is decreasing.
I‘m a proud owner of a Svartpilen 401 for a few months now, its just awesome! So much fun to drive just everywhere. Offroad, in the hills or in town!
how tall are you? im 6.1 but i think it will look bad
I‘m even taler, 6.3. No problems with riding at all. Looks are ok if you ask me, almost everyone looks a little big on the Svart. But it is really one of the very best 300cc bikes! So much fun and just cool for everything, takling a pass, going a little ofroad or commuting.
I would change the tail and the mirrors and you go
Think it fits me? I am 173cm
Mmm depends on your leg length. Sit on it and you will know. The seat on the Svart is quite high
@@shortname9133 Im somewhere near your height.I cant flat foot it but both my feet can nearly touch the ground just enough to balance it. I mostly use my left foot at stop and still kinda have to stretch it a little bit. we might have a different inseam so try it at your local dealer too . hopefully that gives you some idea. I wanna see you ride some pilen too.
Guys, great video, but we have to wait until 11:05 to get a full side view of that beauty! Please show more of the whole bikes from the start! Cheers
3/28/22 is my pick up date, I was looking for a 390 ADV . But found the 401 and I am looking forward to starting fresh on this little one. 40 years since I have ridden and think this is the best choice I can make.
Ya'll make great videos. The audio clipping is super annoying though. Love the content overall. Thanks for making this comparo.
LMAO I love your commentary about finding neutral on the Svartpilen! I just bought a Vitpilen and I was like... "N is still between 1 & 2, right??" Definitely takes some getting used to. What I found makes it easier is trying to pull the shift lever *forward* instead of *up*.
I have to say this was a very pleasant video. You two are the most articulate Moto vloggers on TH-cam. I finally get to see both of my favourite bikes side by side.
So grateful for this vid ❤
Were there issues with Spites mic? Just wondering if it's the video or me lol great vid either way
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Yammie after years of your videos. I did it mate. I got my self a r3 crotch rocket. Thank you. I will never got back.
Nice. May i ask what year and what color?
2016 and the gray/black/red. Paid 3.4k aud and has 4500 on the clock.
It would have been nice that while you two fine, gentlemen motorcycle connoisseurs were reviewing the two bikes that you could have done static close ups of the details you were discussing. That being said, your ride review was excellent. I've watched all your vids and love your enthusiasm. (I ride a Honda CB500X 'Urban Adventurer' in Melbourne, Australia) Cheers, Cirenov.
I saw a Duke the other day in a Lowe's parking lot. I got really excited because I've never seen any of the bikes you ever really talk about.
Great choice for going camping with your RV. And having the bike to explore what’s around you.
Thanks for another great video! I honestly appreciate your honesty and unbiased opinions.
Around 8:51, Yammie claims that the Husqvarna is the only motorcycle that says "motorcycle" on it. How could he and Spite forget that the HD logo announces "Motor Cycle?"
You mention how narrow the Husqvarna seat is, but that it still absorbs rough terrain. How do you think it would last on a long ride?
I've been in Viet Nam for the past two years but still recognized the Dominoes truck at 14:00. While it's not the best quality in the world, I still think it's better than what I'm finding here.
Happy trails, guys.
I would really like to see how much of a difference there is between a 690 Duke and the vitpilen 701.
Yummiest, brand new rider here only been on my steed 7 or 8 times, was wondering if I could get an in depth video explaining the timing on rev matching while downshifting can't seem to get the hang of it from just watching videos. Camera angle is always too high.
I love the background music from one of my most favorite Tom & Jerry episodes
Nice vid & interesting comparison. I really like the Duke but I think the Husqvarna is the Duke for grown ups. I feel I could buy & keep the Husky indefinitely but I'd trade the KTM before too long. The Vitpilen also now comes with a quickshifter which would seal the deal for me.
I know this is an old comment but is it only the Vitpilen that comes with a quick shift? Did the svartpilen not have one too? :(
Yammie how is quarantine life. I'm 14 and I can't get my permit till I'm 16 but I love watching you videos
2 minutes from release 😌 just bike-less squid enjoying some content
Same! Although I’m getting a Yamaha R3 soon
C- Breezy yoooo congrats
@@c-breezy307papa-yam got you convinced for the R3? me too! haha
Skypher Customs yea if y’all ever in Tulsa let’s get together and ride!! Follow my TH-cam
do a video on Honda CB400 Super four! It’s so popular down here in Asia. Think it’s so good in sub 400 cc bike category.
A crappy road in Austin is a decent road right here in Poland. Try single track my boys, then you'll know what it's like to ride crappy roads in my country :D
Think you need to get Spite a new mic, his audio was all over the place.
Ant not the first video it happens on... its like they use sound from 2 different mics, but just switching between them mid words
@@Krydolph They do that on purpose. When he moves, mic on his t-shirt gets that annoying sound so they switch to the "main" one. The "main" one sounds distant so they get back to the t-shirt mic as soon as possible. But the mixing could be better a bit.
@@iamandreja If they do it on purpose they are doing something wrong! I honestly assumed it was some program auto switching between them depending on what it found best in the moment.
Its a annoying to a degree where I just gave up watching the video.
@@Krydolph Maybe it's done automatically. Anyway, I agree with you, it ruins the video. But I watched it until the end, nice content.
2018 and 2019 Svartpilen 401s had the same exhaust setup as the Duke 390. They had to change it due to an emissions update.
and now the new 390 duke has the same down low exhaust because of euro 5 emission rules
If you want to ride on a crappy road, ride through Dungog, NSW. The surface of the road is like it was used for mortar shell testing and hasn't been repaired.
Would be exciting to see whether they experience any of the engine shut down issues that plagued the other models
Yeah finding neutral on my 2022 401 is pretty difficult, and I’ve had it for over two weeks
Guys this was EXACTLY what I was looking for. THANK YOU
Get the Duke.
Siddhartha Ganni why
@@bryski5990 you'll love the husky, don't worry, go test ride one!
@@sid1290 prices are too good on the husky's right now, they are priced really well, better deal in the US than the duke right now, not sure why yam keeps bringing up last years $6299 price.
@@bryski5990This is the first generation, usually first generations have some problems (major or minor) which will be rectified in 2nd or upcoming generations.
I would pick the Husky. I live in an urban area with potholes and the Husky just seems better suited and more practical. Damn good looking, too!
woo you guys got the old models of both the motorcycle, luckily in my country we have the updated ones Euro 5 emissions
euro emissions are too strict
Which country is that?
i know this video is about the bikes, but damn do i love seeing downtown austin in videos. gorgeous bikes in one of the best cities in the US.
my channel has got footage from one of the worst cities in the world if ya interested ;) haha
Can u do a video on the Honda CBR500R? Is it a nice middle ground between a 300cc and a 600cc?
Funny thing, the 2019 model Svart has the 390 exhaust routing
About to head back to the land of fallen angels, Southern California, from Austin Texas . Will be picking up my first bike, the Svartpilen 401. Thanks boys, greatly appreciated all the awesome content you put out there! I may not want to leave this city but at least I'll be able to lane split with an ocean view on a pretty bike, could be worse.
Really glad to see the Svartpilen
Bought the 701 about 7 months ago and have loved it since
Keep it in good shape it will be worth big money soon they discontinued 701
@@samuelsurreal6896 I was already going to keep it clean but I guess now even more so
I think the svartpilen vs 390 adventure will be an interesting comparison as well. I’m personally really looking forward to the 390 adventure, huge value for money bike, but man this svartpilen is GORGEOUS and tugs realllllly hard at my heart
I'm on the same boat. Can't decide which one, the husky has that unique futuristic retro look.
I had 390 adventure last year, now I have a svartpilen. The svartpilen is way better and so much more beautiful.. I must say I never offroad the adventure so it was useless for me
I like that Husky. It has hooligan potential.
My present, semi ADV (NC700X), is good for scaling construction zones but I wish it was lighter.
That low pipe begs modifications.
This Duke keeps popping up on my feed, might have to get one
I just picked up a 2020 Husqvarna Vitpilen 401 as my fifth bike.
Hey yammie i love your stuff!!
I need a piece of advise.
I am looking for a first bike, i wanted an ADV.
But somehow i realized i will not going on a trip around the world anytime soon. But even a mrried man with kids can dream haha.
So im looking for a naked. I like the av650 or the cb500f.
Don't know if the 650 will be too mich to handle.
Spit your wisdom and enlighten me. Both bikes look sexy as hell to me
Why the american versions of these bikes have that ugly turn signal lights?
The European version looks much better.
Different laws here, we run an archaic rule for motorcycle signal lights that basically outlaws brighter, more visible, and aesthetically pleasing signals because Murica. I ordered the Euro signals from an Austrian site for my Duke.
Cause cops are dicks and bitched about it cause they hate bikes cause they can’t fuck with them at will and extort them like all the other sheep! They know we can hit traffic or a free way and wave by and drive away no fuss no muss long as we leave get out of dodge where good usually! Now I can’t say I have ever done that but if I had I would say that’s why! I know they have made them stick the plate on a whole arm deal that holds it up in the air behind the bike! Looks like shot first thing everyone does is get a fender eliminator kit and a ticket! 🤦🏼♂️😂! We got them on the ropes now they to busy fighting innocent protesters and Blake people out in Louisville to make shit up and extort us! Hopefully America becomes more free, and only gets cops involved when actual crime happens in the street or in public! At home if no one calls for help stay the fuck away please! And we would have a great society they just gotta chill and start letting everyone make a buck and get by! The top of the finacial system has finally pissed offf the poor and they got workers and hard ass people on them they really can’t whip without military equipment getting involved! Might as well calm shit down relax and make America ok again for everyone!
@@tammyforbes2101 vote Biden! and you'll have no freedom left.
Hey, Yummy Pube (sorry, couldn't help myself).
What comms devices are you guys using when you go out to ride? Seems to sound crystal clear.
For the mics you should set the gate threshold lower bc them you dont have this like stopping
I'm looking at these two bikes as an experience rider with a liter sport bike who needs a city commuter, and the on cyl. engine sounds economic, while the bikes still seem to offer some fun riding to them. I like the 390 Duke because it looks as a Super Duke, yet I like the looks of the "Husky". Hard call, but the video helps and was useful as I'm looking into these bikes!. I'I"ve looked at the 690 Duke and 701 Svartpilen, and think the 390 would be a perfect engine for what I'm looking (again, I have a R1M if I want to go really fast).
would have been nice to have both motorcycles fully in frame of video
I tested the Vitpilen 401 here in Malaysia. Same issue with neutral. We get cast wheels here and non adjustable forks though. But ... the price is nearly identical to the Duke 390.
What’s wrong wiht the neutral
Jawab jgn bgi malu😂
Two things Yammie, the msrp is decreased to $5000, and the 2020 model has a quickshifter!
@R3Vlog because it was massively overpriced in the beginning bike market at 7000. That's what you would pay for a 650 class bike, not a 400.
It’s because they moved production from Austria to India.
@r3vlog you were hating on these bikes in the exhaust video and here u are saying you want one !! 🤡
5:37 KTM 390 Adventure also has adjustable suspension. I own one and its great
I am considering KTM 390 Adventure and Svartpillen 401. Somehow I feel KTM may be better for longer rides. Do you have any opinion? Is KTM 390 Adventure good from your perspective?
@@cr4sher7 the riding position of the ktm is better than the svartpilen for longer trips, but i feel like the seat is quite uncomfortable, even the comfort seat.
Did anybody else notice really weird audio in this video? It sounds like the mics keep cutting out
A closer comparison would be the vitpilen and the duke but close enough😂
Got a svartpilen 401 2020 for my self this week, but the front wheel wobbels a bit and it effects the conforte of the handel bare. Do any one know how to fix this problem?
You nailed it exactly. I'm a 'returning rider' and the Svartpilen is at the top of my list. I'm Tall, 5'11" so, the height would be no issue. The Duke display would be distracting AF.
“Bumpy road” 😂😂😂 that’s like the best road here in Detroit. But I will say that the svartpilen is looking more and more desirable for me here.
Nice review. You convinced me on the 390 Duke....Husky is cool but it's not just $800 more. Leftover 2019 new dukes can be had from dealers for $3900. That is way less than the lower amount of the husky 401 imported that aren't discounted much. I like the ergos, electronics and local dealer network better on ktm. Thanks !
Dude if I could find a leftover for that price I’d buy it right now.
What leftovers are you talking about ?? Hahahah this bike is sold out on the entire east coast presale
How does husqi's tires perform around the corners compared to ktm?
So will the exhaust from the KTM bolt right up to the 401?
I wish my 2018 vitpilen had the adjustable suspension 😔
The husky has tubbed tires. Is that something to avoid when getting a beginner bike?
The Husqvarna badge on the pillion seat is to be removed when grab handle is fixed
hey you sound like that guy from those videos about bikes
Again check out 390 adventure for beginner bike with adjustable suspension
Nick
I'm looking for just that and will consider the 390 adv...but wow is that an ugly headlight assembly. Not saying I want style over substance, but yikes.
Did you use rokform before you were sponsored by them?
My first bike is gonna be the Svart!
Can’t wait 🥳🥳🥳
6:10 what does adjustable suspension have to do with stalling at a stoplight?
He was saying a beginner is more concerned with stalling then adjustable suspension
@@Motoexplorer300L yeah so it’s just an unnecessary added cost to the bike at that point, also a beginner could accidentally have the suspension set wildly incorrect
the 2018-2019 401s had the high exhaust pipe. They were also made in Austria
I don't know which post-19 models are made in Austria, but my 2020 Vitpilen 401 (purchased in Spain) was made in Austria (as indicated in its technical documentation as well as by its VIN, which starts with VBK, corresponding to Austria).
@@BikesAndBatallas parts are made in India now but it’s still assembled in Austria
Husky seem to having the different designed header pipe because of the emission norms in India where it is being produced which is called the bs6 or Bharat stage 6 emissions norm. Even in the new bs6 Duke 390 the exhaust system is different with the pipes being rerouted like how it's in the 401 because of extra catcon. And then again I feel it could also help in reducing the heat that the riders experience.
Both these bikes have LED turn signals here in Australia. Do US regulations prevent them?
same here in South Africa mate..
Such a weird looking motorcycle but i kinda like it.
I had the same problem with the neutral in my Duke. So it is not due to any changes Husky made.
Speaking as a Calamari (Euro-Squid) these are more progression bikes cause of the tiered licence. So the addition of adjustable suspension can make sense in the Euro market.
Honestly I like the Duke 390 way better. Couldn't you just change the tires and make it off road? Or dual purpose? Which type/model of tires would you recommend for that?
What comm/mic are you guys using?!
How many entries do you get per bike sweepstakes?
My question is can you put a Duke TFT display on the 401?
Yammie great vid! Can u do a comparison vid to the Honda adv150 or the new Honda Neowing? I know they're not bikes but why not and who does a better vid than u?
I appreciate the comparison more so than the clickbait title. It may help to understand those marketing quotes would be vision statements and not mission statements. The differentiation seems a success: I've never been attracted to the Duke and the Svartpilen seems an obvious choice for me. I'd be tempted to swap over the Duke's gauge cluster if the Svartpilen can use it however.
Hey yammie I have a fractured wrist can I still have throttle control
Bought a new 401 for my first bike 2 weeks ago!!!
How is it?
@@cyclonus01 it turns heads. The seat height is pretty tall (I'm 5'11), but other than that it's a smooth ride
Hi mate .. i want to get one k5m duke 390 but some of the people who already got this bike saying ktm duke 390 got some issues ..like abs failure ..quickshifter does not work properly, overheating issue, unstable rpm on 3rd gears .. could you please make a video regarding these concerns
Most of these issues are due to new BS6 emissions standards. Get a Rapid Bike ECU and the issues go away. As for ABS failure it's just a dying battery, Happened to me. Over heating is fixed but you can use a new cooler cap and use Engine Ice coolent.
How are these bikes for reliability?
I hope and wish that I have Honda CB 650R.
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As a previous owner of a Ninja 636 these bikes are not beginning bikes, they are small cc, but they are not beginning bikes unless you are mature, they will easily kill you. (All bikes can) but start smaller then these. This chap should be an example, he started on a R3 and jumped up to quick and is lucky to be alive because it was to much for him.
Husq had to add the word motorcycles to the bike so we wouldn't get it mixed up with one of their sewing machines or snow blowers lol
Or chainsaws, or lawn mowers!
Yammie.......look up for ktm duke 390 bs6......here in india we've got a bs6 (euro 5 compliant) update to the ktm duke 390 and its also got a quickshifter as a part of the update and they have also rerouted the exhaust to make exit from below
Do you know when its coming to the rest of europe?
@@jessekroon6 probably at the end of the year or early next year. It was supposed to be launched after eicma but we all know what happened
You must have different testing system over there. If you're stalling bikes you won't be allowed off a 125. Most people getting one of these will be able to ride well enough to have passed a test (which is pretty strict these days)
Love the 401
Since these bikes are pretty much the same platform, is it possible to swap items from one to the other like putting the 401's suspension on the 390 for the adjustability or the 390's exhaust on the 401 for better clearance? Take the best of both to make one. Expensive I know but is it doable?
Yes it is, but just buy parts for a 390 Adventure
I'm in that "returning rider" category. Had cruisers before, wanting to go naked or semi-sport. Does the 401 have a different transmission than the Duke? That seems to be the one major gripe I hear from people about the KTM 390s.
Too bad Husqvarna couldn't have routed the exhaust to the side, and put a decent instrument cluster on it. I actually hate KTM's "phone mounted sideways" instrument look too, but at least you can see it; even if the Husky's was just a TFT in the middle, that would be great.
The exhaust on my 2019 Svartpilan 401 is exactly same as Duke that it goes up, in and around. I don't understand why they would change that for 2020 model. But then again, it does not have adjustable front suspension.
The laws in Europe changed, so they had to change the bike
I really really wanted a svartpilen 401, but I could barely find a new one anywhere near me and at $6960 out the door I couldn't do it. Just scored a duke 390 with 2100miles for $3100 that needed a battery but is otherwise great.
Where do you live? 7k is a lot...
@@Shketri94 Seattle area.
Can you swap the exhaust off the duke and put it on the husqvarna?
A 14 tooth front sprocket on the Svart 401 with a pair of S22 tyres and you have yourself a Duke 390 with a quickshifter and fully adjustable suspension:)