NEW Yamaha MT03 vs KTM Duke 390! Which is BEST?
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Pity im Australian Le'sigh :(
Sadly I am from india
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sadly im in Philippines
Honestly two amazing bikes and I think you can’t really go wrong with either, but Yamaha reliability would win me over. Cheaper maintenance, and fewer problems = happier broke boy.
I like the looks of the yamaha better as well.
I considered them both, but I bought the MT-03. Cheaper, reliability, and ABS.
I agree Yamaha is way more reliable. KTM is not very good in terms of reliability. Some parts of Duke do not last long.
Here as KTM is made so the Duke is considered super cheap, cost and maintenance wise ,super cheap.
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The hell did all these long bois come from? It's like nobody's under 6' anymore. I'm 5'8" and the mt/r3 fits like a glove.
Thanks, man. I am 5'9". MT-03 will be launched in India in February 2021, so I was contemplating between this and MT-15.
@@bluntfitter bro easy choice get the mt o3
@@bluntfitter are you sure that it will be launched in India?
@@bluntfitter sucks that mt-15 looks much better that mt-03
Im 5'4," with inseam 29"! Lol
I would take the duke, but that reliability and frequency of maintenance is what's holding me back.
Go for Yamaha... You won't regret it... Don't look for high bhp.... Reliability is important emphasis for me...
@@manofvalor4437 yeah whatever bike I'd get I will tour with it and I'd hate to be stranded in the middle of nowhere with the nearest service center being 10's of km away
@@DPham1 so Yamaha is perfect for you.. because I've got the reviews that KTM 390 has knocking in throttle, flactuating Rpms and engine heating issues... And you can easily tour on MT's..
Great review guys! Good to hear about seat heights of both bikes and how they fit riders. Not just 'beginners' bike though .....many of us older guys also want something light, not too high in the saddle and with some punchy fun....
"two inches in the rear is all ya need, don't let anyone tell you any different." Yammie Noob 2020
As a 5'5" person it hurts every time to hear: "oh the bike is small, it's tiny, bla bla" lol
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I feel you bro
I'm 5ft on tip toes the mt03 would be one foot down for me!!
Right there with yuh
EXACTLY!
Learned to ride on my 2018 390 Duke. Great fun. Took delivery of my upgrade today... 2020 Street Triple RS!
Why tho that bike is worse than it's appears
jASKA jOKUNEN um the street triple is one of the best street bikes out.
Td4x4pwr I have the 2019 street triple r and that bike is awesome. I chose the r because I don’t plan on tracking the bike but the rs does seem cool as well
Td4x4pwr also that’s a nice upgrade congrats
Learned to ride on my 2018 MT03 and now riding a 2014 street triple R :)
We're like dark twins. Except you have more money hahaha
As a fan and as a z400 owner. I would love to see the comparison between the z and the Duke. Love the videos keep em coming
Me too
You guys are killing it with the content! 🙌🏾
I bought a 2020 Duke, thanks for the informative video. Helped with the decision a bunch!
How has the reliability been for you?
@@Dannyfr33sh Perfect, no issues at 1400 miles.
@@californiazedder just 1400 miles?
@@jimmylives I only ride 3 miles per day. Short commute.
@@californiazedder any updates? how much have you spent on maintance so far?
i've had a 390 for 3 years now. it's been a blast. i bought a used 1290, kept both for a season, sold the1290. not saying it's better, they do not compare. just saying that 390 was more suitable formy needs, i use the bike as transportation and the 1290 is a weekend warrior, not a commuter. i mean... if you're 6 feet tall and don't care about the huge fuel consumption and insurance and maintenance costs... and it doesn't get too hot in the summer where you live ,then maybe it could be a commuter fo you.
i live in rome (italy) and there's always traffic and the roads are all bumpy and when it rains the streets flood. the 390 never let me down, i rode it in 1 foot of water, i stand up on the pegs like on an enduro bike when the road is terrible or i have to go on and off sidewalks (yes we do park on sidewalks here) and i zip through traffic like i'm on a scooter.
i'm so sad they discontinued the 690 duke, it was the perfect bike for me but i don't wanna get one used cause i prefer having warranty. i love the little 390 but i'd like some more grunt. i think i'll go 890 cause i got a car now, work mostly from home, so i could use a less practical bike as long as it doesn't get clumsy in traffic and it doesn't use more gas than my freacking car. a little version of the superduke might be the right choice for now.
"2 inches in the rear is all you need" That's what she said
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Yaaaasssss. Much awaited.
Nice bikes! I also love the classical music behind :)
I'm glad I saw this. I was looking at the KTM 390 for my first bike but seems the MT-03 may be better. Well I'm going for my license in a few weeks so I'll keep looking.
Which one did you end up going with? I got the MT-03 and, as a first time rider, I love it. It’s so comfortable and isn’t overpowering for me. I do see what they mean about the brakes though lol Very squishy and no feedback
@@ScantSphinx9 I haven't got it yet, I'm waiting to get my endorsement but I have to wait another month due to appointment times. I am leaning more towards the KTM since I am in love with the look and it seems to do better rating wise on a few websites I've been looking at, and I've had a chance to sit on it.
Get an MT07... Don't waste time and money on 300s, you will be over them in couple months and will want more. In contrast, it took me 6 years to finally decide I want bigger bike and sold my FZ07....
@@pagadqs Alas I got the KTM 390 Duke already, and paid it off. So while yes I am starting to feel the limits it is still so much fun to ride. I think I will wait another year to trade up, thanks though.
@@ktmmatt7243 how does it feel now man? Had any problems with it yet? How's the bike behaving? I'm considering in getting a duke 390 as well.
This was really informative, I'm opting for the Duke as a first bike!
I just bought mine as my first bike, really lightweight and fun, and pretty punchy on the accelerator :))
Great video keep up the great work
Love ur vs series make these more often specially when u tell the comparison while riding couldnt find anything like that on youtube great job 👍
Picked up the mt 03 a couple weeks ago. I was looking at the cb300r but the mt low seat height was a huge plus. Im 5' 5" with a 29 inseam and I can almost flat foot both feet. It is a fun bike and another thing not mentioned is its tank size 3.7 gallons and it's still light and easy to maneuver.
I bought the cb300f for my son. I would have bought the mt03 all day, if it would have been available at the time. The 300f is great, but i think the mt would keep his interest longer.
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All these guys who do reviews seem to be 6’ plus, which doesn’t help us average guys out one bit.
I bought an mt-03 over the duke mostly for the reliability. I've heard of issues like fragile oil pumps and burnt out heads on the duke while the R3/mt engine is fairly bombproof.
The duke is super fun and feels a lot more pokey, to me it feels almost like a motard while the rider position and high reving engine on the mt feels closer to sports bike.
The mt's suspension and brakes do leave a lot to be desired though.
Yeah it's because they using plastic gear to spin the oil pump,but they recall it but still using the plastic gear..... _-)
Thanks guys I love y'all show
Awesome comparison!
Really like the look of that MT-03
I rode my bike yesterday along the coast in norther cali and it was soo freaking nice to have the whole hwy to myself since people are freaking out about the coronavirus😂😂🤣😂
Love you guys have a regular size guy (6'3", 220lbs) on here to do feel/ergos. :-) Appreciate you give let us bigger guys know what fits and doesn't.
Looking into getting my very first bike (late at 35) and this video was very helpful
“It’s too tiny look at my legs” my guy.... I don’t think you know this... but there are people in fact shorter than you.
I have a 29 inseam and the bike is too tall.
WTF???
My guy Shutup shorty
Yes, I don't get it? Two relatively tall guys riding entry level bikes and judging them based on how much they are like or unlike big bikes. There's an audience for most types of bikes, and the MT-03 probably wasn't intended for a guy who is 6'3" 230#. I sat on a 390 Duke, and it was the most uncomfortable seat I had ever experienced, other than some dirt bikes.
I’d prefer mt-03. Why? Reliability
i have mt-03 (2016), enjoying every singe ride
Keenan why can’t the mts handle corners ?
@@raffynko despite all the lack from yammie build the only one that stay is reliability. solid engine build
but ugly as hell and has no character compared to the ktm. and i am a yamaha fan..
Japanese have no competition in terms of reliability
Thank for the suggestion 👍👍
The most helpful and very entertaining comparison video I've ever watched so far
You can depend on Yamaha for being reliable and it will also keep its value more than the KTM.
I'd go with Yamaha, any Yamaha motorcycle built in the last 3 years has close to zero chance of it breaking down.
Had hoped to take a look at the MT-03, and our local dealer is sold out. I'm an older guy, and also a newly minted motorcycle rider. (Well, once had a Honda CB200, but that was decades ago.) I don't even like the look of most modern bikes, but that Yamaha looks really cool, in even in my "Boomer" eyes. And the price? Wow. I'm sure the Duke is more fun, but I'd bet that the Yamaha would be more durable and trouble-free choice.
Got a 2022 Duke, put around 600 miles on the clock and haven’t had any mythical KTM low mileage issues so *knock on wood* we keep it going. First bike and perfectly suited for my needs!
Really good video man wow hit all check marks for me
You never question about yamaha relibility
Thats because there is nothing to question about all yamahas products work fine even after 10 years of use
Mohandas Ghandi lol nice name man
@@juliasrouvali1924 you mean even after 30 years of use 😂
@@juliasrouvali1924 *abuse. still working fine.
@@A--lex yeah but 10 without chancing parts in engine :D my yamaha boat engine is like 40 years old and starts from first pull
Literally just compared the to for myself and bought the duke . It is amazing
How tall are you?
@@UnsolicitatedWisdom if you worried about height because you are tall, get a duke 690. Pretty easy to adjust so you can have lots of leg room
are you still enjoying it now, and have you to do any maintenance?
That Saxophone part earned my sub :)
Classy guys: Motorcycles and J.S. Bach. Great review!
I wanted a Rebel500 as my first bike, now I'm really entertaining the idea of one of these. Thanks for the video.
-An Austin n00b
CenRen don’t get a rebel they are garbage you will get so board so quick get a ninja 400 thank me later
Reliability yamha
But my heart says ktm
Riding is hobby a feeling so i guess go with my heart.
the control and acceleration of 390 is unmachable. And it looks exotic too, it look like some beast when you actually look at it passing by . I got it last year, i ll choose it today and anyday.
@@amarjotsingh1191 Yes offcourse, and cry too. When the bike starting having problem. Face the heating issues.
@@sanjiv144 1.5 years no issue. Heating is there right from beginning as its single cylinder. But i already knew it doesnt bother me
I bought a duke 200 almost 3 years ago and I never had a problem
@@amarjotsingh1191 bro in india ktm is best in every thing
Thanks for the video alot of great info It's been a few years since I owned a bike ( 07zx6r), looking at the MT03 to ride around town.
stay safe and stay clean yammie
MT-03 is designed for asian market, that is why it's a short bike.
No !!! Is europeen market bro !!!! Is a big bike for 300 cc
I'm 6"1 and have the '19 mt03, not cramped for me. Maybe the' 20 is a smaller bike. I have no problems getting my knees comfortably tucked under the tank
Mark Elms is the motorbike rewarding enough for you? Is it doing more or less than this real cylinder?
not the MT-25 ?
Herbie Melbourne 🤨
Maybe a Z400 too would be great.
Great comparison video!! Would love to hear your thoughts about GS310 and Versys X 300
This was a realy usefull review/comparesent for me.
Aspacialy with the seat hight etc.
Hope you wil be able to get a z400 to compare as wel!!
I'd love to see it compared with a z400 too!
Ive been riding for quite a few years different bikes, big n small, and im totally happy with my mt03
Is there anything about it you don’t like?
Ζ400: 44 hp on rear wheel
390: 41 hp on rear wheel
mt-03: 36 hp on rear wheel
Didn't he say on the specs its actually 41 the mt?
mt03 is 42hp
@@honorswift 42hp is on crankshaft in the rear wheel is 36
@@-cfh-architector7963 5 horses lost between crank shaft and wheel 😂
Been using Yamaha since 2015 the smaller displacement 150 the fz 150. Wanted to upgrade to duke 390 but Yamaha again gave a reason to stick with them the mt03
that fly by at 18:21 cracks me up.
The Duke is a fun bike. My buddy has one and it’s a blast to ride.
The editor had too much fun with this one lol
Man I'm in love with that Mad duke🔥🔥
make an updated video comparing the latest duke 390!
This might be me but one thing I found about Yamaha's MT series is where they place the horn button (its annoying).
Seriously, they made it like a standard to put the damn horn button far enough that it forces you to move your hand just to reach it.
I sat on both of them and with 6"3 the MT 03 was way to small. I ended up buying the 390 Duke and Im glad I chose the Duke because its soooooo awesome to ride. Cranked 2k miles in 2 weeks no problems so far.
A lot of comments I’ve seen on the duke say it’s unreliable what are your thoughts?
@@hazvaldo4016 1 and a half years of owning my duke 390 and I've had no problems whatsoever. Did my 1000km and 1 year service and no problems.
@@GopzU_Official where should I get the helmet,gloves and jacket from ? Suggestion please
@@GopzU_Official you mean 10000km right?
One thing I don't here alone about in videos like this is longevity and durability on these nakeds. Like how long from show room floor until I start seeing problems how many slow or at speed falls can it take before it's too much
Honda CB300 R, which I put 11K hard rowdy miles on before moving up to my Triumph Street Triple 675 Rx, is an awesome bike. My vote for best in that class by a mile.
With the nice weather I am enjoying riding my 2017 Kawasaki x300 Versys and my 2013 KTM Duke 690 Supermoto. Today I rode both of them back to back and delighted in discovering the attributes of each of these wonderful motorcycles. Here is my evaluation: My Kawasaki seems like a Rolls Royce compared to the KTM Duke. It's engine is much smoother and much more quiet. The clutch throw is much softer but has a longer pull. I like the gear shifting on the KTM best. It is a bit clunky but has a short positive throw and more precise clicking into gear. The clutch is fast and positive. The KTM has way more power and acceleration than my Kawasaki. But that is an unfair comparison considering that the Duke has more than twice the displacement. The guages and features are far nicer on the Kawasaki. I like the gear position indicator and the fuel gauge that Kawasaki offers. The KTM has a far more comfortable seat compared to the Kawasaki. However, the seating position of the Kawasaki is much nicer than the KTM. Both are fairly tall motorcycles. I recently lowered my Kawasaki 1-1/2" which I highly recommend if you are shorter than 6 feet tall. My Kawasaki feels better balanced than the KTM, but only slightly. The KTM has so much torgue, so less down shifting is required. Just twist the throttle and go in any gear. The Kawasaki has a very high revving engine. It takes 7,500 rpm to cruise 65 mph. The KTM rarely needs more than 4,000 rpm. The Kawasaki engine internals sound smooth as silk. The KTM sounds like it is grinding bolts internally. The KTM has a very jerkey low range, not very tractable. The Kawasaki is the opposite. Very smooth. Both motorcycles shine in the twisties and curves. Both motorcycles are very flickable. The KTM may have a slight edge in handling but overall I prefer the ride of the Kawasaki. My final impression is that both motorcycles are wonderful, the Duke for it's torque and power, the Kawasaki for it's dual sport smoothness. If I could own just one or the other I would keep the Kawasaki for it's Rolls Royce build quality, smoothness, handling and quietness.
Would love a vintage bike series where you ride some old carbureted bikes from the 70s, 80s and 90s. Possible twisted road vid 🤔
Adam MacDonald yamaha RD 350 loving it 2 stroke legend
The one to review for the north American market is the Husqvarna Svartpilen.
It's a brilliant bike. Same engine as the Duke, made by the same organisation, KTM parts in it, BUT when you're riding it you are sat straight. You're don't feel like you're kneeling down with the belief that your about to somersault over the handlebars if you hit a bump or brake sharply.
Hopefully you review the Z400 someday!!! Ride safe!! Monski watching from alkhobar saudi arabia.
Duke 390 ! I've got mine since 2017 and only had one "big" problem with. A cable which went a bit off so the engine stopped. Appart from that its all good !
Duke Fanboys where are you at..???
I own and ride a 2016 Duke 390. Pure beast.
Stay safe Spite and Yammie
I love my Duke 390. I'm 6'4" so I probably look a bit ridiculous on it but I'm comfortable enough and it's such a fun little machine.
It's not little , u are just huge . Avg height is 5"8 in the world , and even those guys have hard time putting flat foot on the ground , while sitting on this.
So relatable bro haha, it's oddly comfortable for tall people even though it looks like we're pretzels
Whats good bike for tall rider a2,z400 or duke390 or cfmoto450sr what do u think
@@kotra3582 I have only ridden the 390 Duke so I dunno man. I like my Duke though, it's a really fun bike.
I would like to see a comparison between the R3 an the MT 03
papa yammie I saw a triumph ad before your video... Is this the message
that weee flyby got me
Hi guys!
I would love to see a review from you on the husqvarna 401, vitpilen and svartpilen !
✌🏻
How about the 2020 kawazaki z400 compared to these 2?
Z400 is way nicer of a bike in my opinion than both 2, definitely check it out. The 390 is overhyped and just not as reliable as the Kawa and the Yamaha. There are so many known problems with the 390, and some obvious parts like the electronics don't even cover the warranty. I have ridden all 3 and I own the z400 myself and have ridden it for 16000 km now. Really love it!
Dude Z400 Smooth, power and reliability so go for it!
I would never buy a z400 just because of its design. However I think Kawa makes amazing machines, but designs are ugliest amongs all other brands. Like bunch of random shapes on a frame. (except z900rs).
@@maxb3347 Watch out we got a katana guy here... He likes the bubbly anal bead type bikes....
@@StudioCST thanks for unintentionally answering my question on what to get haha.
the Yamaha MT03 , front tire is mounted backwards , NICE VIDEO ....
Saving for an MT-03 as a starter bike to learn on
"Some of you may not be a rider... but 2 inches makes lot of difference..."
Me: (don't think... dirty...) YUP!!!! 😂
yup, that is why i would pick he yamaha.
1:40 "It's nice to have another mini naked, the market is pretty starved"
hey have you heard of this company called Honda?
yeah like the car company.
did you know they also make motorcycles?
they make a 125 naked, they made a 250 naked, they also make a 300 naked (2 of em), and a 500 naked, plus 2 naked 650s
plus lets not forget about
Suzuki GW250
BMW G310R
Ducati Scrambler Sixty2
husqvarna svartpilen 401
husqvarna vitpilen 401
Hyosung GT250
SYM Wolf CR300i
Benelli TNT300
Benelli 302S
Buell Blast 500
CSC SG250 San Gabriel
SSR Buccaneer Classic 250
SSR Buccaneer Cafe racer 250
Yamaha SR400
I don't want to be an a-hole
but my jaw dropped when you said there aren't enough low displacement nakeds on the US market.
maybe 20 years ago
Just ordered a yamaha mt-03, can’t wait for it to arrive!
Proud owner of Duke 390 guys!! Greetings from Costa Rica! 😎😅
Great, thanks! I agree, the Duke is indeed sexier than the Yamaha MT03; but with its 5 cm higher seat, I discard the Duke from my list of possible last bike. At 75 year-young, I'm already searching for a replacement for my current 2010 Yamaha 660 cc & this Yamaha is on my short list with the BMW G310R 😃😃😃
I've seen 2019 Duke 390's brand new for $3,500 in California. Seems like a pretty damn good deal!
Where at I’m in Cali looking for a bike
@@youngcalimigga San Diego, FB Marketplace. That was a long time ago!
@@dustinkarrick7819 thanks
I'm in San Diego and there's seem to be only one used model at $4200.
Please do thw long race and drag race on both.
I haven't had any big problems with the duke loved it so far brought brand new made a few changes would recommend 👍
A year later, did you still dont had any big problems with it? Im considering the Duke 250 or the Duke 390. Both 2019 models.
@@mirco7352 it got stolen just after id done 10k km so id recommend a damn lock hahaha, it was a great bike though, great learner bike easy to handle decent amount of power never had any problems, i changed it up and went the mt07 now and i love it
You forgot to add in the price of a bike trailer for the KTM so you can bring it home when it breaks down on you.
Done 9,300 with zero issues on my 17 Duke
The 14th Earl of Gurney I guess ur one of those few lucky people
What should break on the duke ?
The bike isn't that unreliable since they updated it in 2017. Just keep on top of maintenance intervals and valve adjustments
@@indianapwn3s true it is not as unreliable as it once was. But still it is somewhat unreliable
I'd go for the yamaha, it's calmer, so I would guess it's nicer for a daily. Also comfort is higher on my priority list and I like the looks of it! I love the sound of the Duke though, and being more playful is cool. But for me, it comes down to reliability. Cool comparison, very helpful.
@@jordanjoestar8839 Cool, as for reliability, have you had them long enough? I'm looking for a daily
Has been riding the duke for 4 years everyday till now, i can tell u that it bonded me hard
yup, you won't get that handling anywhere else.
You should repeat that same test on the 125cc‘s maybe not relevant for the US but highly for Europe and Asia as they get bought like crazy over here. And of course you will receive the TH-cam Medal of Honor for that!
The ppl in the cars just see two weirdoes making whoop, wheelie gestures with their hands.
Very nice review, background classic music made it a real struggle for me to watch though.
The tank flares on the Yam looks like it grabs Spite's legs like the RSV4-R my buddy has locked onto me! Not the most comfy, but very controllable
Naked Yama baby will always be my guilty pleasure. Rossi forgive me
2020 duke even has a quick shifter.
Pseudo quick shifter*
@@tornadohand no, they actully fixed it
apparently they just needed to update the software and now its smooth AF
suvro sarkar i guess what he meant is that it is only useful for down shifts and not for upshifts
@@ekomdeepsingh3938 well my friend just bought the adv390 and after the software update both upshifts and downshifts are now smooth
I think manual shifting is more fun. I guess I just like the feel of the gear changing.
Just picked up the MT3.... mostly because I'm 5'6" and it fits me better lol
the DUKE 390's side light is to laugh for. in your region it's LED but looking at your lights i crack up.
Y’all are overlooking the Honda CB300R/F as well for mini nakeds!
Just got a 2016 CB300F for my first bike, I'm in love with it!
Just like the cbr300..The Cb300 uses the same underpowered motor and doesnt even come close to its competiton
I bought the 300f for my son last year. It seems perfect to learn on. I rode it to work a couple times myself. I very much enjoyed the bike. He rode the americade (330miles in one day) with me on his break-in oil. It fits the bill perfect in the Adirondack mountains.
He said “cheaper than everything else on the lot except dirt bikes” and that struck a nerve lol. As a former dirt bike rider; I know they are NOT cheap. Unless you’re buying kid’s bikes. Adult bikes are expensive as hell. A YZ450F’s MSRP is over $9,000. Which is insane. You can get an MT-07 for $7k.
I bought an mt03 because of how expensive dirt bike were. I put knobbies on the mt and now I take it through trails and get a lot of weird looks
@@dijonmustard961 that’s pretty badass actually haha. But a little crazy
@18:30 mods. I would get a seat from the mt-15 if it fits. The only thing I don't like on the MT-03 is the seat.
Must be so nice to just be able to ride on any bike you want on the market, it would really suck if you were shorter when it’s nearly impossible to find a good sport bike
Solid note, the ktm rider is a big guy. That bike would whip a smaller guy like me around.