Emissions is definitely the main reason for the stock tune, on every bike now. They have to make it run pretty much as lean as possible while still being reliable, and emissions regs are getting tighter every year. It's one of the reasons Suzuki doesn't bother upgrading their lineup very often since new engine development already costs hundreds of millions. Even more difficult when every year your emissions requirements get more strict.
I’ve never understood emissions regulation on motorcycles, it would take you a life time of riding a 400 to burn as much as a private jet burns in a year and a SUV would in 5
@@charliecharlie9042bro fr the regulations only apply to us the "lower class civillians" but at least we can remove these bs restrictions with relatively simple mods
I’ve got a 2020 R3, just added a Toce Full System and I love it! Going with Norton Motorsports for the ECU Flash, and Velocity Stacks. I love those 400’s too, definitely the bike to get if you plan on squeezing power from a small displacement motorcycle. Excited to see the new ZX-4R and hopefully a R4. I’m now making 42RWHP with my tuned R3, up from the stock 37RWHP. With similar mods, the Ninja 400 can make up to 59-60RWHP. The Ninja is a beginner bike you can upgrade and enjoy for awhile, definitely the bike to get.
@@timsgta yes but we're mostly not going to get this bike on the state side and it makes absolutely no point in importing it too. I assume from what I've heard and seen from yammie and other in different countries who have it its like basically a ecu flashed 400 in a that let's out a few hp and bit more torque. I still wouldn't get it because im not a fan of the supersport riding position, but who knows... I only had a chance to sit on a zx6r and I don't like not being able to flat foot and feel like I'm reaching.
8:30 i know this might sound dumb, but honestly, with the same exhaust systems i almost think the 400 sounds better than the 650, probably because of the higher rev range, that just gives it that extra pounce that the 650 doesnt have (and doesnt need, arguably, but still).
I honestly prefer the ninja400 to the 650 in almost every way. They’re not even really comparable at all once you take a closer look. The Ninja 400 is a 2cylinder race bike while the 650 is more like a sport tourer with a bigger emphasis on “sport” than “tourer”
My theory is keep your bike stock until you have racked up some decent kilometers. Stock everything. I think 20,000 km (about 12,000 miles) should be enough. Yes, unless your engine is well worn in any mod could blow up the engine...
Just wrecked my bike and thank god I only fractured my collarbone but the bikes In the shop getting fixed and I got an ECU flash and am so excited to get back on her🤘🏼 love the content Maxy
They should really make a ZX-4R with the 4-Cylinder thats in the ZX-25R and sell it in the U.S. It would absolutely blow the R3 out of the water. In India, they have the ZX-25R and with an Orion exhaust, the thing screams and sounds like a Ferrari.
they arent bringing the 250cc to NA but infact are making a zx4r idk pricing though it will be the worst part. Looking forward to it myself esp if it has near 70hp. Something to learn on with rev depth but not PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT power.
i have an 18 krt green. its a head turner for sure! Ive done 400 miles this weekend exploring around Huntsville and Eden Utahfd. You should come visit us again at cycle gear in riverdale. Ive got the norton intake, tune and hindle exhaust. Your welcome compare the two hahah.
Perfect bike for Australia. Generally Australia’s top speed is 100kmh including highways. That’s 60mph, Americans seem to need a fast bike, they need a high top speed due to higher speed limits. If you’re Aussie then this is a perfect daily rider
emissions sound and fuel economy. when coasting stock cuts fuel but flashes keep them spraying. also there is more headroom in the ninja, Canadian and I think milaysia a few other countries spec have more power then the American spec one.
I had a girl pull up next to my friends and I at a stoplight, she leaned out her window, made direct eye contact with my friend, then turned and looked at me (on the KRT ninja) and said nice bike. I never let my friend forget that lol
why does everyone think the 400 tops out at 100 or 110. on flat ground you can do 124 with a stock 400 and downhill you can do 130 and then it tops out. I just got my bike from the dealer not long ago and only have a slip on straight pipe.
Bro I’m picking up a 400 this weekend how can I get in touch with you to do what you’ve done to that 400 to mine once I get it I live in Visalia as well I just notice you were riding down Mooney blvd by the way This is my first time watching one of your videos
Visalia, CA - I'm familiar., I'm there all the time ;) You still live out there? Would love to get a ride in with you with my Ninja 400 by three rivers. If you ever come to Santa Cruz/San Jose I can show you highway 9 and some other backroads.
im 16 and im in peru for a year and im using my dads little cafe racer 250 and practicing on that. In i year when i move back to cali ive been wanting to get a zx6r 4 cylinder just becuase of the sound, power, etc. But after seeing this maybe i just get a 400 and if i want more power eventually i just get an ecu flash and tune.
It's a 10-R for a reason. The R is for Race. So it's the most track oriented bike. So less stuff that's good for street use and more stuff good for track.
@@turborsx5740 Oh yeah, it's almost like regenerative braking it's so bad. If you're not on the throttle, you're being thrown forward. Also my first bike so I wasn't sure if it was just the nature of the beast or what.
I went to their website but on all their products(exhaust and ecu flashing) they have the disclaimer of being for 'closed course competition' only-I guess they're still happy to sell it to anyone who pays for it-I'm no fucking mechanic though so I'd have to get my local motorcycle store to install it-of course I need to buy the Ninja 400 first and the price is right compared to the higher cc bikes-back in the '80's I had a Yamaha RD400-I don't consider the 400 to be a 'beginner's bike' though it's a class of bike that is for ALL because it has enough acceleration and top end for the average sane human being while remaining lightweight and with ABS as well.
almost anything involving ecu tuning and ive noticed alot of the bike stuff has that warning strictly cause they have to legally. they cant advertise it to use on the street since the governement doesnt like poeple having fun.
@Evil Eye Actually I bought a brand new 2021 Ninja650 instead of the 400 last April-great bike,I'll probably keep it stock as it's quick enough for me.
@@ricopalmerin4756 I don't thinks so. On the video he shows a max speed of 117mph and he blamed the lack of space to go faster. I do 127 mph max speed on my stock ninja 400. He must do another video to prove this Dyno flash really works. In the video I did not see any noticeable change. Any sport bike can be lifted in 2 gear.👎
@@marlonrodriguez9193 I big difference I'm seeing is how fast he's accelerating past 100, most 400's will do about 125 indicated but this one gets like it's the 650.
That's way better acceleration than the cbr500r on the top end. You can do 115 top speed with the cbr500r but not quickly, takes a minute. But that ninja 400 has some balls
What's your build like? I'm looking at the ninja 400 for my first bike. I'm 6' 215lbs. Suitable for me stock? Definitely with some mods? Seems like it. Opinion?
@@MaxysDailyMadness My primary use is commuting back roads to and from work. Curvy drive with some straights. Trying to have it be budget friendly but also capable at highway speed. The 650 is almost double the cost. Think it's worth it?
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Emissions is definitely the main reason for the stock tune, on every bike now. They have to make it run pretty much as lean as possible while still being reliable, and emissions regs are getting tighter every year. It's one of the reasons Suzuki doesn't bother upgrading their lineup very often since new engine development already costs hundreds of millions. Even more difficult when every year your emissions requirements get more strict.
I’ve never understood emissions regulation on motorcycles, it would take you a life time of riding a 400 to burn as much as a private jet burns in a year and a SUV would in 5
@@charliecharlie9042Couldn't have said it better myself
@@charliecharlie9042bro fr the regulations only apply to us the "lower class civillians" but at least we can remove these bs restrictions with relatively simple mods
I’ve got a 2020 R3, just added a Toce Full System and I love it! Going with Norton Motorsports for the ECU Flash, and Velocity Stacks. I love those 400’s too, definitely the bike to get if you plan on squeezing power from a small displacement motorcycle. Excited to see the new ZX-4R and hopefully a R4.
I’m now making 42RWHP with my tuned R3, up from the stock 37RWHP. With similar mods, the Ninja 400 can make up to 59-60RWHP. The Ninja is a beginner bike you can upgrade and enjoy for awhile, definitely the bike to get.
ZX4R really?
I have a Ninja 400 with a full Toce Razor tip. Love it. Almost got the MT-03 at first.
@@timsgta yes but we're mostly not going to get this bike on the state side and it makes absolutely no point in importing it too. I assume from what I've heard and seen from yammie and other in different countries who have it its like basically a ecu flashed 400 in a that let's out a few hp and bit more torque. I still wouldn't get it because im not a fan of the supersport riding position, but who knows... I only had a chance to sit on a zx6r and I don't like not being able to flat foot and feel like I'm reaching.
R1de Along 😥
Bro those videos are driving me crazy can't wait to get mine, really few people talked badly about this bike. can't wait man, can't f wait.
Buying a 2023 Ninja 400 this year, I cant wait. Thanks for sharing your videos.
8:30 i know this might sound dumb, but honestly, with the same exhaust systems i almost think the 400 sounds better than the 650, probably because of the higher rev range, that just gives it that extra pounce that the 650 doesnt have (and doesnt need, arguably, but still).
I honestly prefer the ninja400 to the 650 in almost every way. They’re not even really comparable at all once you take a closer look. The Ninja 400 is a 2cylinder race bike while the 650 is more like a sport tourer with a bigger emphasis on “sport” than “tourer”
400 has been improved!!! SWEET!!!!
Nice ! I’ve had mine flashed for awhile too definitely makes a difference 🤙🏽
Where can I get one??🤓 .. I’m in California
😱👍♥️♥️💸💸
What clutch did you go with to handle the extra hrsprs?
My theory is keep your bike stock until you have racked up some decent kilometers. Stock everything. I think 20,000 km (about 12,000 miles) should be enough. Yes, unless your engine is well worn in any mod could blow up the engine...
The Fact you went 112MPH in 5th gear is hella good for a Ninja 400
mine does that stock… maybe cause i only weigh 120 lbs. wonder what it would be like with the flash.
@@mazzyg1259 Bro i weigh 125lbs and it doesnt go 112PMH in 5th gear lmao i got a Leo Vince lv-10 slip on as well, i believe you are mistaken
@@colbyclark2479 what year is yours? because I hit 110 on 5th and I’m 170 lbs, mine is a 2021.
@@davinchi4007 2019, but that doesnt change the top end
@@davinchi4007 They have the identical stats
Just wrecked my bike and thank god I only fractured my collarbone but the bikes In the shop getting fixed and I got an ECU flash and am so excited to get back on her🤘🏼 love the content Maxy
Glad you’re still with us bro. 😇
I’m getting my first bike in a few months and I’m gonna get a ninja 400. So excited
Same, I just passed my MSF course yesterday now I’m trying to find a dealership to finance a new 400🥰
@@RagunatorX I’m riding one now. Great beginners bike.
I’d get a 600 you will get bored really fast I’m already wanting to upgrade mines
@@zackerybess3976 650 would be better
@@zackerybess3976 how long you had yours? Have you taken it to the track or canyons?
Jane's going to be rippin now!
I have a z400, haven't ridden it yet so I'm excited to see the difference from my 300 that I had years ago
What steering damper are you using? And did you swap the standard clutch springs?
Yeah Bayyybeee what's good Maxy.
Awesome, the ninja 400 is my first bike. Might do this before I upgrade...
Nice to see you on a bike that you have the skill to ride.
They should really make a ZX-4R with the 4-Cylinder thats in the ZX-25R and sell it in the U.S. It would absolutely blow the R3 out of the water. In India, they have the ZX-25R and with an Orion exhaust, the thing screams and sounds like a Ferrari.
I know! that Orion exhaust sounds like a Liter bike!
I want a zx4r thatd be bad
Sryy bro...but in india too we r unfortunate to have this😩
What's up with the mirrors aimed at your shoulders?
they arent bringing the 250cc to NA but infact are making a zx4r idk pricing though it will be the worst part. Looking forward to it myself esp if it has near 70hp. Something to learn on with rev depth but not PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT power.
Did you do the cut out under the air filter with the velocity stacks also?
Velocity stacks and MWR Filter should give it even more power, albeit the gains are relative
I want that gawwwdamn speed run on the Ninja 400 w/ ecu flash!
When you coming to Nashville bro? Got plenty of fans here ready to ride with ya.
i have an 18 krt green. its a head turner for sure! Ive done 400 miles this weekend exploring around Huntsville and Eden Utahfd. You should come visit us again at cycle gear in riverdale. Ive got the norton intake, tune and hindle exhaust. Your welcome compare the two hahah.
Dude I'm in McCalla. I got the 20 KRT Green. I was wondering if I was the only 1 around lol. Head turner for sure
Perfect bike for Australia. Generally Australia’s top speed is 100kmh including highways. That’s 60mph, Americans seem to need a fast bike, they need a high top speed due to higher speed limits. If you’re Aussie then this is a perfect daily rider
Top speed in America is generally 70 mph with the exception of a few places. It’s not due to higher speed limits.
No cause youre government is a woke pos
Its mainly the U.S. The manufacturer has to keep bikes restricted in order to pass emissions and what not
Good content maxy, love my 400 as well. Great bike. Any other 400 riders in the 559 area? lets link!
2WheelDyno Works is one of the best in the Northwest.
"Nahh, i don't need gas"
5 minutes later "i gotta go for gas!"😂
Sweet bro
Did you ever get a chance to top out after ECU flash?
Good looking bike!
emissions sound and fuel economy. when coasting stock cuts fuel but flashes keep them spraying. also there is more headroom in the ninja, Canadian and I think milaysia a few other countries spec have more power then the American spec one.
The 400 is a great bike. Turns heads like crazy.
I had a girl pull up next to my friends and I at a stoplight, she leaned out her window, made direct eye contact with my friend, then turned and looked at me (on the KRT ninja) and said nice bike. I never let my friend forget that lol
why does everyone think the 400 tops out at 100 or 110. on flat ground you can do 124 with a stock 400 and downhill you can do 130 and then it tops out. I just got my bike from the dealer not long ago and only have a slip on straight pipe.
damn it is really so sweet bro!!!
Top speed with flash I want to do the full exhaust system with Norton ECU tune and stacks?
Holy moly.
Bro I’m picking up a 400 this weekend how can I get in touch with you to do what you’ve done to that 400 to mine once I get it I live in Visalia as well I just notice you were riding down Mooney blvd by the way This is my first time watching one of your videos
Nothing like pushing a twin to the breaking point
I have a norton flashed 93 octane ninja 400 with airbox mods and slip on and hit an indicated 131 mph. stock was just over 118
I hit 120 on stock, felt like I could possible reach 125 max but that’s the fastest I’ve gone on my 23
Visalia, CA - I'm familiar., I'm there all the time ;)
You still live out there? Would love to get a ride in with you with my Ninja 400 by three rivers.
If you ever come to Santa Cruz/San Jose I can show you highway 9 and some other backroads.
5:11 aren’t those the lyrics to the 2 part song “Butcher Pete” by Roy Brown?
What’s good baybeee
Come to Hawaii and ride here on Oahu!
Make it a Vaycay!! Lol
im 16 and im in peru for a year and im using my dads little cafe racer 250 and practicing on that. In i year when i move back to cali ive been wanting to get a zx6r 4 cylinder just becuase of the sound, power, etc. But after seeing this maybe i just get a 400 and if i want more power eventually i just get an ecu flash and tune.
Exhaust? Nice video
Hell yea bro your from my home town I know exactly where u we’re riding bike sounds good I got me a 22 ninja 400 krt edition
Check out Chris Moore from Moore Mafia! Best bike tuner in the Upstate hands down.
Moore Mafia!!!!
Yes sir I’m supposed to be getting my tune song after I get my Norton velocity stacks in air filter it’s on and popping
Aye I just got my ecu flash back from 2 wheel dynoworks too!
How does it feel? like huge difference or just ok? why did you go with the ECU flash over dyno jet power commander 5?
I find it odd that the Ninja 1000, Ninja 400, and 636 all have fuel gauges in the cluster but the ZX10-R only has a low fuel warning.
It's a 10-R for a reason. The R is for Race. So it's the most track oriented bike. So less stuff that's good for street use and more stuff good for track.
it's because you can only drive 4 miles on a tank anyways, your always at the pump lol
👉 Fast LaneD 🇺🇸😳
@@chrismoltisanti2763 the 636 is also the 6-R though…..
its for the emission that they have to put crap tunes, not for warranty
Whats good baybee
I can't wait to learn how to ride mine
How much more power does it give you mate
baaaabeee
You love anything with 2 wheels. Lol
I need a new high speed test on the way home and I will, I will 🤣🤣
Bro there is no way you are from Visalia I just started watching your videos and I’m from Visalia myself getting a 400 in 2 days
yoooo im watching this like why do these roads look so familiar man i live here xD
This is in Visalia Ca, what up !!!!
I wonder what flash is better. The norton motorsport flash or this one? I just bought the norton. Can't wait to see a top speed run
Please let us know how it goes I'm really curious about nortons aswell
@@jilkojilko I will. I am almost out of the break in period
@@MrCcjcool how's it going?
Norton flash 100% worth it
@@MrCcjcool how much more power did you get
Sends that shit bro
Minute 2:06 hoo yep that tells me you will need to replace chain and sprockets plus front steering bearing replacement if you keep doing it 😆
How much did the flash run you? Should I get a full exhaust before getting it flashed
You dont have to but you should honestly
Bro reached 113 in 5th on a 400. That’s wicked.
Dude my 87 500 ninja did the same numbers stock.....no big surprise
For a 400 that thing goes
My 2023 ninja 400 completely stock can cruise at 122mph.. is it even worth it to flash the ecu?
Will it be fine if I do an ECU Flash on my 2020 ninja 400 that only has a slip on?
Yessir do it
Yes I’ve done it to my 19’ IG: _LT400_
@@MaxysDailyMadness how much power do you think with a slip on and intake ?
Watching... Already parked here...
just got my '23, i think ill ride it stock for a thousand miles or so then flash it. unless it doesnt make a difference.
Visalia Ca. Your on Mooney in this video Lolol
Brah
Yes breh
Thanks for the video! Did the ECU reflash get rid of the "snappy" or "jerky" throttle response on your ninja?
This is why I watched this video. Was wondering the same
@@davidgesell I'm about to send mine out to be flashed, sure hope the throttle response gets smoother. Is yours doing the same thing?
@@turborsx5740 Oh yeah, it's almost like regenerative braking it's so bad. If you're not on the throttle, you're being thrown forward. Also my first bike so I wasn't sure if it was just the nature of the beast or what.
@@davidgesell just FYI, I got my ECU flash back from 2 wheels dyno and yes, it got rid of the jerky throttle, runs much smoother & it's more drivable
@@turborsx5740 Awesome thanks for the response. How exactly do you go about getting your ECU flashed? Bring it to the dealership?
yo, I am thinking about buying one of these ninja...are they good for bombing around town>? not looking to over heat in city traffic.
Yessir
Can I get a ecu flash just with the Leo Vince LV 10 slip on and is it worth it ?
What exhaust do you have on the 400?
Huh...Visalia eh? Nice.
can you list the mods you have on that and links if possible?
I went to their website but on all their products(exhaust and ecu flashing) they have the disclaimer of being for 'closed course competition' only-I guess they're still happy to sell it to anyone who pays for it-I'm no fucking mechanic though so I'd have to get my local motorcycle store to install it-of course I need to buy the Ninja 400 first and the price is right compared to the higher cc bikes-back in the '80's I had a Yamaha RD400-I don't consider the 400 to be a 'beginner's bike' though it's a class of bike that is for ALL because it has enough acceleration and top end for the average sane human being while remaining lightweight and with ABS as well.
almost anything involving ecu tuning and ive noticed alot of the bike stuff has that warning strictly cause they have to legally. they cant advertise it to use on the street since the governement doesnt like poeple having fun.
@Evil Eye Actually I bought a brand new 2021 Ninja650 instead of the 400 last April-great bike,I'll probably keep it stock as it's quick enough for me.
What exhaust are you using?
Can you do another top speed run
Not sure about California rules on aftermarket exhausts. Not tryna get a fat ticket
Didn’t realize you live in Visalia lmfao
Hey i’m new to the channel! I have a little question. What other mods do you have on this bike? Thank you 😊
Just a full sc project system. Thinking about getting the velocity stacks for it too though.
@@MaxysDailyMadness so was your top speed different after the flash and full exhaust?
@@ricopalmerin4756 I don't thinks so. On the video he shows a max speed of 117mph and he blamed the lack of space to go faster. I do 127 mph max speed on my stock ninja 400. He must do another video to prove this Dyno flash really works. In the video I did not see any noticeable change. Any sport bike can be lifted in 2 gear.👎
@@marlonrodriguez9193 thanks for the response. I'm getting the ninja 400 probably this year and it's nice to know that it has a Lil up n go
@@marlonrodriguez9193 I big difference I'm seeing is how fast he's accelerating past 100, most 400's will do about 125 indicated but this one gets like it's the 650.
How much hp do you think your making ?
Is that Jane’s bike?
I have the z definitely doing this. I havent even tried popping up the front end I didnt think she had it in her
Definitely does
God bless everyone and everything right and drive safe everyone 💕💕
That's way better acceleration than the cbr500r on the top end. You can do 115 top speed with the cbr500r but not quickly, takes a minute. But that ninja 400 has some balls
Nope i got 118 on the 500
Getting One next week
I can clutch up 2nd gear on my completely stock 400 lol. You can’t power up but you can clutch up 1st and 2nd gear EASY.
Nah man, I have a stock 400 aside from a slip on exhaust, and you can power wheelie in 1st gear easy as 👌
What rpm/speed can you pop it up at?
Sucks I usually have to go out of my way to drop down to first at 10mph
lets run the 400's i'm from Pville been seeing you on here rippin mooney and would love to link up
Haha let's do it 245 on Tuesday
@@MaxysDailyMadness where we meeting at?
@@CLeeSTeR flyers on mooney at 2pm?
@@MaxysDailyMadness I'll be at flyers Idk where that was at first gas station
Damn bro i can’t make it tomorrow... shits stacked up here and I need to get my life in order before more playing around. Are you on DLIVE?
I’m looking into ninja 400 as my first bike..... so badly want this!!!
same
@@Josh-cw8by already got the ninja 400. LOVE it
@@Josh-cw8by People usually start with 125cc.And idk why ninja 400 0-100 4.5 sec and 200 kmh doesn't have enough power.
@@Josh-cw8by same. Jumping to a mt09 soon
I started on a ninja 300 and i love it
You’re on Mooney in Visalia wya bruh got a z400 lmk I got a issue it’s a 2019 z
15hp gain on a 45hp motor from just flash 😆
what exhaust would you recommend to get it to the loudness for beginners? (or what's your exhaust?)
Leo Vince !
@@zurkpeekss ya man I got mine and it's loud as hell even with a full face helmet. The deceleration noise is soooo good
yes, it's nasty, I'm just got my ninja flashed and now it feel like Duke 390 :)
What's your build like? I'm looking at the ninja 400 for my first bike. I'm 6' 215lbs. Suitable for me stock? Definitely with some mods? Seems like it. Opinion?
Get a ninja 650
@@MaxysDailyMadness My primary use is commuting back roads to and from work. Curvy drive with some straights. Trying to have it be budget friendly but also capable at highway speed. The 650 is almost double the cost. Think it's worth it?
Whats ur setup. Cat delete?