Attaching CSL DD to PlaySeat Challenge
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มี.ค. 2022
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We are exploring how to install the CSL DD onto the PlaySeat Challenge! Seeing as though I do not have an aluminum profile rig yet, I decided to figure out a way to still use my new wheel base without having to pay for a new rig at the moment. Turns out this is a really easy process and should take no more than about 10 - 15 minutes on the slow end. I walk you through step-by-step and give details instructions on how to make sure the CSL DD is attached and very secure.
Also, I apologize for the video quality. I am still in the process of renovating my house and have not optimized the lighting for my camera. I promise that the quality will return to its former level.
Lastly, if you find this video helpful, please "Like" and "Subscribe" as it does help this channel grow. Thank you for tuning in!
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Logitech G29 Racing Wheel
Logitech Driving Force Shifter
Playseat Challenge
ButtKicker Gamer 2 Base Shaker
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Thanks for the quick and easy video. Probably saved me more than 2 hours of dinking around assembling and dissembling and reassembling again and again.
@MrActiveDown you're welcome! I am glad this helps! Thank you for tuning in!
Thank you so much for this. Helped no end getting my GT DD Pro attached to my Challenge last night. Great presentation, so clear and relaxed... A+ TH-camring!
Thank you very much for the feedback! Glad it helped you get your GT DD Pro attached! Thank you for watching!
This is so clear and easy to follow, you speak at a lovely relaxed pace and you've helped me make a decision todya, cheers!
Thank you for the feedback and for watching! I am glad that it helped you make your decision!
Hey man just wanted to say a huge thank you for this video, really easy to understand instructions! I've ordered a GT DD Pro and have the Playseat Challenge so glad I stumbled on your video because I wouldn't have known about reversing the plate! Saves me a headache for when it eventually arrives :-) cheers!
@Matt you're very welcome! Thank you tuning in!
Dude, I love your laid back presentation, subbed!
@Tomas DeLuna thank you and welcome to the channel! I appreciate the sub!
Nice, I considered buying a CSL DD for my playseat. This was very helpful man, thanks! Very chill video aswell.
@Ry0k glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful! Thank you for tuning in!
Super insightful, thank you! Congrats on 1k subscribers!
Thank you so much!! I truly appreciate it!
Thank you very much. Now i can sleep better to know it will work with the playseat, when my DD Pro arrives. Greetings from germany.
@Patrice de la Roe you're welcome! Thank you for tuning in from Germany!
Thank you for the Video. Everything i wanted to know before purchasing.
@lukasg6183 you're welcome! I'm glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this. Just got me a DD Pro and this helped out a lot while setting up my rig.
@patrickandres5893 you're welcome! I'm glad to help! Thank you for watching!
This saved my butt and earned a sub. Thank you for posting this! I use a Next Level Racing GTLite Pro myself, and for that one I had to mount the plate as far back as possible (that is, use the top 2 screw holes) as the mounting places for the silver brackets collided with the bar underneath. Still, just seeing how you installed it made it super easy for me to securely install as well :D
@Hobogoku thanks for the sub, and I'm so glad this helped you!
Just ordered myself a CSL DD for Christmas, already have a playseat challenge and csl loadcell pedals so really excited to try it out
@CJ-uh8bk you're going to love it!
Thx buddy, saved my day! Keep the good work up! ❤️🏎️
@marcoscheiber1144 glad to help! Thank you for watching!
This is pretty cool & very informational
@Junae Benne thanks! I'm glad you like it! We may have to collaborate on a video soon! Let's touch base soon.
@@JCCollinsRacing heck yeah!
Great video! I ended up putting some thick washers on the underside of the plate for the 2 screws that are too long, and it allowed me to tighten them without worrying about hitting the wheel base.
@Ben Aiken that is a great solution and a very easy fix.
I may have to do the same thing to mount the CSL DD to my GT Omega Classic, so thanks for getting the idea of how to solve the eventuality of screws being too long, and actually also to look out for that possibility, preloaded in my noggin! 😁👍
Thank you! Helped me a ton, greatly appreciated.
@nRoadie you're welcome! Thank you very much for watching!
Hello guys, Excellent video, very explanatory, very easy to understand, I'm going to do the same in my Playseat Challenge with Base Gt dd pro... thank you.
@lionelpereira1111 you're welcome! Thank you for watching!
love the opener "if you are like me didn't have enough to get a dedicated sim rig etc"
honestly literally why i am here. I picked this exact same setup up with the same mentality lol glad you made this video !!
I'm glad that you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching and for your feedback! How do you like the setup?
@@JCCollinsRacing I like, it's good but i went ahead to get a playseat trophy on order. I think that will help a lot with load cell brake.
@@runna-ow7ql Nice! The Trophy looks much more rigid to handle the pedals and DD wheel bases.
Phew, that was a good help, thank you my friend just got my GT DD Pro today and was lost as to how to fit it, contemplated drilling holes 😅
@stecampbell371, you're welcome! I'm glad that this video helped you! Thank you for watching!
I'm about to receive this weekend my Fanatec DD pro 8Nm and I have the same playseat which I used to play with my G29. I'm going to try this at home and see how it works :) thank you bro!
@Skat3Juan you're welcome! Thank you for watching!
Are you enjoying the Fanatec DD Pro? I'm using the CSL Elite with the Playseat and thinking about upgrading.
@@Bolkiebasher yeah, I would like to upgrade my chair as well! So far is so good but maybe in the future for something stiffer
Bless you man this guide saved me so much time
@TimeCyclus you're very welcome! Thank you for watching!
Very informative. Thanks!
@Craig Yirush you're welcome! Thanks for tuning in!
Hello JC
Just a big thanks to you. Helped me a lot.
best regards from Paris France.
JLR
Hello @fullmetjack1105! You're very welcome! Thank you so much for watching, and I'm glad it helped you a lot!
Ty very much just got my fanatec dd and this work to perfection very hepful
You're very welcome! So, glad that it worked out for you! Thank you so much for watching!
Just the video I was looking for def considering attaching a dd to a foldable rig.
@Devon Calhoun glad this helps! Thanks for tuning in!
Great vid on a great channel.
I recently came across a company that makes both Playseat Challenge shifter mounts and braces to minimize the up and down wobble. I plan to get both.
@paulmurphy7626 thanks for the support! Is the company called The Lowdown Shifter?
Liked and subbed. Thanks for this helpful video. Warm greetings from across the pond :)
@MrCMHUDDY thank you for tuning in and the sub! I can feel the love from across the pond!
@@JCCollinsRacing 👍👍😃😃
glad u back dawg
@Tecca Good to be back!
This was a great help!
Thank you! Glad it helped! Thank you for watching!
video was definitely helpful!
@luizmakesvideos thank you! I'm glad you found it helpful! Thank you for tuning in!
Thanks for the update. I have a Playseat Challenge as well and have been upgrading my Logitech G920 setup piece by piece to Fanatec and I am eager to see your setup once complete. I recently purchased the MCLAREN GT3 wheel, the 3 pedal set non load cell version because I want to see how the brake sponge feels during hard braking to see if I can live with it until a aftermarket lower cost upgrade comes out. I also brought the upgraded metal pedal plates and the steering wheel quick connect. Hopefully soon, I can buy the CSL DD (Xbox Version) next when my funds permit. I am looking to strength up the Playseat some how to handle the added stress of the motor and brake force but that's another dilemma for the future since other cockpits I looked at cost more than the Fanatec setup.
@M Anderson thank you! I am eager to share my most recent setup! I am wiring on Antje video on how to attach the V3 pedal set to the PS Challenge, but that will take a bit longer to vette the process. The McLaren GT3 wheel is a very solid wheel and does nearly everything that you need in most Sims. I will be doing a video on this in the near future as well.
I think piecing the rig together is a very effective way to understand exactly what upgrades are must haves and how they can compliment/evolve your driving style. I am interested in seeing how your setup develops! Keep me posted with your latest progress.
Thanks, this vid helped me a lot!!
You're welcome! Thank you for watching! So glad it helped!
Subbed! Great video, thanks!
@UniQue thanks for subbing! Thank you for tuning in and welcome to the channel.
I did this first but I ended up way too far from the wheel so I placed the plate at the nearest place so the DD weight is directly on the plastic bracket and the wheel is at a perfect range from my arms. The issue is that the front hole is blocked by a small amount of plastic so I slightly drilled it, in that way I'm able to use the 3rd screw. You can also use some washer for the other screw so it will screw perfectly on the DD. Sorry for my english!
@YIAZ-M thank you for sharing what worked for you! I didn't think of that and I think what you did is a great solution for getting around that plastic. I am sure that many people that read this will benefit from your idea!
anyway for you to provide pics on maybe an instagram?? i’m having such trouble, my arms are also way to far away cause it’s sitting the farthest back on the plate and i tried moving it up yesterday and just using the 2 front screw holes but the plastic adjuster under the plate hits the rail 😅
It's not yours. It's mine!
Thank you dude. Was wondering if the bolts that came with the play seat challenge would fit in my GT DD Pro that I have ordered earlier this week. The wheel that comes with it looks like a toy so I opted for the McLaren GT3 wheel. You pretty much answered all my questions with this video. Cheers bud.
@Snoof Dogg you're very welcome! I'm glad that I was able to help! Thank you for tuning in!
Thanks. It was a life saver
@Ocha Ruben you're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Nice video, just ordered similar with your advice!
That's awesome! Thank you for watching! What did you order? You said that it's similar.
@@JCCollinsRacingDD and playseat challenge. I'll be back again in a few days to watch how to put it together.
@@JCCollinsRacing Back again, set up following this worked a charm. Thanks again.
@@paulashwin247 You're welcome! I'm glad it worked out well for you!
I'm waiting for my CSL DD to be delivered any moment now and this video made me feel a little less concerned about how difficult it might end up being to mount it to my GT Omega Classic cockpit. Assuming the predrilled holes on the Playseat Challenge are aimed at a similar range of entry level wheel bases that the GT Omega Classic is, I'm now confident that I shouldn't have to drill holes into the top plate of my wheel stand, although I'm wondering if I'll have to come up with a solution to allow me to put it at more of an angle to be able to get the angle of the steering wheel to a comfortable range. Great video for my purposes. Thanks! I'll go ahead and sub your channel to see what else you get up to.
@ClusterFugue thank you for subscribing! I do not know much about the GT Omega Classic, but from what I see from some pictures, the mounting plates looks to have predrilled holes in the proper locations for the CSL DD. If the older Clubsport wheels can fit on the GT Omega Classic, then the CSL DD will because it uses the same spacing for the T-Nuts. I hope this helps further and thank you again for tuning in and subscribing!
Thanks for the Video. you are the reason i finally ordered a DD Pro ^^
I'm - sadly - a bit too large for the playseat(1.93m and 105Kg), so my legs get squished in the front which is very unpleasant. The playseat shows 5 bars on the sides(and a bit more) to get it more comfortable but it's never quite enough as it is still too small (left to right).
Although i can't use the playseat(some kind of XXL playseat woould have been nice), this setup works GREAT! Not for me, but everyone else who visits and who wants to drive.
Thanks again for the showing how to do it. :)
@Eispfogel you're very welcome! Your words are very encouraging and motivated me make more content. I am glad that this is useful to you and that your friends have found it useful too! Thank you so much for tuning in and sharing my content with others! It's because of people like you that my channel is growing. Thank you again!
@@JCCollinsRacing You are welcome :)
The Pedals are important too, as you need a pedal mount(as you already know). There are some 3d printed solutions which i will try. Others use zip ties. Im looking forward to what you will end up using ^^
Have a good one and stay healthy!
@Eispfogel the solution I have invilves zip ties, but they are optional. I am looking to make a video on it soon. I have just been really busy with my newborn son and home renovations. Thank you! You stay healthy too!
@@JCCollinsRacing Woah gratulations! :)
Take your time with the video. That's not as important as beeing a father and get the home done.
Happy sleepless nights and strong nerves!
@@Eispfogel thanks! I truly appreciate it!
Good man it's nice to see you're not tormenting yourself with that Logitech anymore
Lol! The CSL DD is a massive step up!
Hi mate
I have the 8nm as well but I use an Omega racing wheel stand, you just have to put in the office chair and you are set. It's super rigid and works very well. However that thing is freaking heavy and super annoying to move around. I was wondering how it is with the playseat challenge, is it light? What about stability, do you have a lot of staking?
great video, this helped alot with my purchase discision you made it all sound easy and answered some questions.
@kadeopatato236 thank you for the feedback and for watching! I'm glad the video made the decision easy for you!
Nice, thank you
@BinLion you're welcome! Thank you for watching!
Awesome bro, they released a PS4 version of it, way too expensive lol, for right now. Great review man, thanks alot6
@Damond's Assorted Topic thanks bro! I saw that and it is pricey. But it's still affordable compared to some of the other offerings out there.
Thank you!
@C5xplosives you're welcome!
Great detailed video! Definitely saving it for later, I just ordered a GT DD Pro with the 2.5 Formula wheel. I'll be mounting it on my desk for now, since it's an office desk and pretty sturdy it should be okay, but I do want to try a playseat or cockpit in the future (as soon as I financially recover from this haha)
I am a bit worried about leg room though, I'm 1.98m (6'4 or 6'5 i think?) so idk if i'd have enough room for my knees lol
Also how are the vibrations/flexing, when using the wheel on the playseat with higher FFB? would shake too much, like to a point where it'd interfere with the driving? Or should I be looking for another playseat/cockpit?
@falcao thank you! There is little flex with the CSL DD, but nothing that will break your focus. If anything, it kinda gives you a bit more immersion since the flex tends to resemble the whatever bouncing the car is doing in the sim at that time. I will be doing a video covering this soon. My goal is put it out before the end of July.
In terms of your height, the Playseat Challenge is adjustable and I think your height may be the upper limit for what it can accommodate. I am 6 ft even (roughly 1.82 meters) and my knees have very little clearance. You should check out a video I did last year reviewing the Playseat Challenge. I actually talk about the adjustability in that one. The thumbnails has me looking at the Playseat Challenge with the caption, "This Is Still A Thing?!?!". Let me know you think. I hope this helps!
Great video. Thanks! Looking forward to pedal video tutorial. Here's a sub!
@lepiakadodo thank you for subscribing!
I think I'd rather redrill that plate when my DD finally turns up so its not hanging over the central bar so much. good vid, subscribed
@effinjamieTT thank you for subscribing!
Super insightful video and very informative. One additional question, do you recall the size of the bolts you used to mount the DD to the base? I purchased my Playseat nearly 3 years ago, and mistakenly threw out the bolts that came with it a long while ago.
I believe the bolts were m6, but can't remember the exact length. I would not recommend getting anything longer than 18 mm, but I am fairly certain that they are m6 bolts.
Thank you for the guide, thought I was going crazy, turns out I'm just blind.
Lol! You're welcome! Thank you for watching!
Great. Do you have those screw in the fanatec bundle? Or you have to but extra?
@icekuba these screws came with the Playseat Challenge, but if I remember correctly, the Fanatec bundle also comes with screws. I know the bundle comes with the T-Nuts.
Hi, do the pedals create any problem when you close the playseat? I’ asking cause i have the csl pedals and I can’t fully close my f gt lite because of them.
Thanks in advance
@Mr Gucciardi no. Once you have the pedals securely mounted. They fold up with the seat. The PlaySeat Challenge doesn't fold as nicely as it does with the G29 pedals, but it is manageable. The V3 pedals are heavier than the G29's, so you may have to use stronger velcro or rope to hold it together while folded.
Great informative video, thank you. I currently have a playseat with a G920 wheel and pedals but was apprehensive about the CSL DD and how much it would be flex etc
@jameshapgood1 You're welcome! There is some flex, but it is not completely terrible. I raced with this setup for about 8 months and was very satisfied with the overall results. Thank you for watching!
Good day i just want to ask how the experience is playing with the gt dd pro with the playseat challenge. Bought the gt dd 8nm base since they don’t sell the 5nm version separately just wondering if it holds well and can take the power of the FFB
Miguel Lehroy Ong I am actually working on a video to talk about that. May be a little while before it's ready, but the experience had been great! It holds up pretty well against the force and is not as bad as I thought it would be. I will be going into detail about how it holds up in the video.
@@JCCollinsRacing that is good to know excited to get mine and will definetly watch your updated review 👌🏼🙏🏻
This video also helps explain the best method for the F-GT Lite, the plate is the same
@Brandon Hallam that is really helpful! I had no idea the plates were the same. Well, knocked out two birds with one stone! Lol!
I just started typing "can you show the pedals" as you mentioned it. 😁
@Allaloneatron you got it! I am currently working on what I think is the easiest process for this. I have thought of a few different methods, but want to show the most effective in function, assembly time and cost. This is something that really concerned me when I purchased the V3 pedals and have been determined to figure out.
@@JCCollinsRacing Thanks. I have a playseat challenge as well and Thinking about this setup in the future.
Great video, for the wheel to be closer to the chest would just using 2 screws work and not the centre one to allow to mount more onto the base?
@Patrick2332 no, sadly. The two slots on the sides will not allow the bolts provided with the Playseat Challenge to properly seat. Seems like the bolts are too long pull the base tightly. Getting shorter screws may solve that, though. I am not sure what length screws would be correct. I hope this helps!
Please could you tell me the distance between the hole ? I'm wondering in it's ok with an old traditional playseat model... THX
@texthemex76 I measured 1.625 inches (~41.275 mm) center-to-center between each of the 3 holes of the CSL DD base. I took the measurements with a tape measure. If anyone else has the exact measurements, please feel free to add them here. I hope this helps and sorry so late on the response.
Yooo respect didn't know my playseat could use my dd pro haaaa gonna try this
Yessir! Thanks for the respect and for watching! I used this configuration for over 6 months before upgrading to an aluminum profile rig, and it worked very well! Plus, I was still able to fold it away when I was done using it.
@JCCollinsRacing nice one bro I watch your video about the V3 pedal but what about the standard pedal is it straight fit
@@jesusloveyou9523 are you referring to the G29/G920 pedals? If so, that fit on top of the foot base rail and are secured with the included large velcro strap. You forget that the strap is there.
Awesome presentation and tutorial, JC! I'm on the edge of switching from a T300 to a CSL DD on my playseat for some time now, good to see the DD can be mounted quite easily and firmly.
One question: When sliding the wheel base on, you are pushing it all the way back until the 2 front screws hit the end of the t-nut slits, I guess. Would it be possible to mount it maybe 2 or 3 cm closer to the seat as well?
Would take a bit weight from the tilting mechanism of the base plate (and maybe be more comfortable, depending on the seating position and the body measurements, of course.)
Cheers! : )
Jörn-Jören Jörensön yes, I am pushing the base all the way back. You could mount the base without pushing all the way back on the T-Nuts. You could slide it to your desired position and tighten down the bolts into the T-Nuts and the base will be just as firm.
Hope this helps!
@@JCCollinsRacing Thanks, mate! Good to know there is some flexibility in the position. : )
Hello, great video, many thanks ! Are the T-nuts included with the wheel ? If not, any info on the specs and where to get them ? Thanks a lot :)
@Lucas-vq7ex, thank you for watching! Yes, the T-Nuts are included with the wheel base.
How do you like the CSL DD on the PlaySeat Challenge? Is the wobble too much or is it not that bad?
@UniQue I like it quite a bit! It's not as rigid as an aluminum profile rig, but it gets the job done. There is some flex, but it is not unbearable.
Thanks 🎉
@gggrunner you're welcome! Thank you for watching!
Great video. Just one question. What size are your bolts? what size is better for the playseat challenge?
Thank you! They are the M6 bolts that came with the PSC. I believe they are 18 mm long...
@@JCCollinsRacing okok
Just what i needed☝️😄
Great! Glad to it helped! Thanks for watching!
Hey man I really appreciate this video. But please make a video on how to screw on the fanatic pedals !! 🙏
@dio loopz your wish has been granted! Lol! Just dropped a video on attaching the V3 pedals to the PSC. Let me know what you think! 😁
Is that a playseat evolution? I am looking to buy a csl dd but I am not sure if it fits in that playseat
@soyunaboladeespinas4846 it is the Playseat Challenge. To be honest, I am not sure if the csl dd will fit on the Platseat Evolution. Sorry about that...
Thanks man! When can we expect the video for the pedals?
@PR1IMA it's hard to say. I will try to have something within next week or two. With having a new baby, renovating a house, and a full time career, I am having a hard time finding the time to devote to it.
Realistically, it will probably be within that week, to two week time frame... not ideal, I know...
Any update on the pedal attachment video? Really looking forward to it
@Zayan S just dropped a video on attaching the V3 pedals. Let me know what you think! 😁
Can you tell me if the power of the Fanatec makes the challenge moves a lot? Is it 5nm or 8nm?
@heviastur it is 8nm and it does bit move a lot. There is movement for hard sharp movements, but it's not terrible.
@@JCCollinsRacingthanks
@heviastur you're welcome!
Thank you
You're welcome! Thank you for watching!
When you do the pedal video will you show the wheel attached to the base?
@Michael Bargo I sure can! 😁
I want to buy the same playseat like in this video & the csl base. Can i directly assemble the base on the plate or must buying additional screws or anything?
You can use the screws that come with the Playseat Challenge. That's what I did in this video.
@@JCCollinsRacing ah okay perfect thanks. My plaseat challenge and a fully completed Fanatec setup is on its way.
Thanks for this! When are you posting the V3 pedals fixing to the Playseat challenge? I’ll wait until that to mount mine.
Cheers
@Arun Ramdin it is hard to say. With my new son, career, and renovating my house, my time is much more limited. I will try to get something out this weekend, but can't guarantee anything.
I mounted my V3 pedals. All you need is zip ties x 4. Just thread them through the holes on the bottom of the V3's and around the Playseat base then tighten. Cut the excess off, works like a charm.
@@FOGDaheee that is a very quick and easy solution. The solution I have does use zip ties, but I did something that is a bit more robust since I am very heavy footed and have the Brake performance kit stiffest dampers installed.
@@JCCollinsRacing Please share your solution, I also use the brake performance kit.
Where did you get screw, there in no screws in csl dd bundle? Do you need to buy it by yourself?
@Marble I used the screws that came with Playseat Challenge. You can get the screws from Home Depot. I went there to get some replacements.
16mm
www.homedepot.com/p/6-mm-x-16-mm-Socket-Cap-Screw-2-Pieces-803338/204225807
25mm
www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-6-mm-x-25-mm-Internal-Hex-Metric-Socket-Cap-2-Piece-865008/323370833
@@JCCollinsRacinghey! 2 x 16mn and 1 25mm right?
do you think the csl dd 5nm would work perfectly on this i know there will be some flex but not as much as the full 8 nm?
@Jogn16 Yes. It will work perfectly fine. There is little flex with 8 NM, so I am sure it will be even less flex with the 5 NM.
@@JCCollinsRacing okay thanks
Hey man, awesome video! I’m picking up my playseat in literally half an hour and I’m waiting for my Fanatec order to arrive!
Couple questions- does the rig handle 5nm okay without extra support?
I’m around 5”11 so I think mounting like in the video will be too far for me (correct me if I’m wrong), and so if I put it all the way forward I’m worried it will be too front-heavy and wont be stable and will flex too much 🤔
@szymonski1905 I had mine set to the full 8nm, and the PSC handled it fine. There is some flex, but not enough to throw off your concentration. I am 6' even, and this configuration worked out really well for me. I hope this helps!
@@JCCollinsRacing thank you so much! Can’t wait to get started 😎
Also rocking 5Nm version here and opted only to mount it with 2 bolts and ommit the middle one , so you can move it forward/aft on the base plate without the middle bolt restricting the position. (using shorter bolts I still had lying around , without the risk of screwing them into the wheelbase)
@@Blackjack174 This is awesome to know! It makes since and is a bit quicker.
What kinda screws are you using to mount this csl did Base ?
@ThotamasPrime I used 3 M6 bolts that came with the PSC. I highlight this at 5:15 in the video if you need more information. Thank you for watching!
@@JCCollinsRacingoh ok thanks
How well do load cell pedals fit on the challenge if you have a pair, just ordered some so was wondering if they work well with the PSC
@itsDxJ that depends on the pedals. For load cell pedals, you typically have to get creative to mount them on the PSC. What pedal set did you order?
@@JCCollinsRacing CSL elite v2
i do it with zip ties@@Danny4sure
@@Danny4sure Zip ties should do the trick to get you going, but will not be a permanent solution. They may snap over time depending on how tough you are on the brakes.
@@JCCollinsRacing gotcha, thanks for the help. Subbed btw
What size m6 bolts do I need I have a play seat evolution
I honestly don't know about the Playseat Evolution. I don't want to guess either and give you the wrong info. Sorry I couldn't help with this one.
Hello bro, is it shakey when u use it?
@Florian actually no. In the few rare moments of clipping, there is a little flex in the cross member the base attaches to. Overall, there is very little to no shaking. It is a bit more pronounced in AC, but in ACC and F1 2021, there is little to no shaking. I have yet to test out out rFactor 2.
Do you still use the Playseat Challenge with the DD on it at this moment in time? If so, I know a great solution for extra stability, as I am using it myself
@giogamer4825 I don't run this setup anymore, but I still have the PSC. I am now using an aluminum TR80 build.
@@JCCollinsRacing ok great 👍
I am using this exact setup! Do you mind sharing the extra stability setup? Would greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance!
Check out our CSL-DD mount to SOLVE the mounting issue with Playseat Challenge.
If you want your CSL-DD center-mounted :)
www.wsra.club/product-page/CSL-DD-universal-mount-WSRA
Cheers!
@WSRA thanks for the info! This mount looks great!
Hi just wondering do you ship to the Uk or not and does it help to eliminate deck flex. Thanks
@@firegaming5569 - It does not entirely eliminate deck flex, but we believe it helps. It was also designed so that the wheel is not sitting too far from the driver with the mounting plate in the farthest position. As you know, this would force you to a seating angle you may not be comfortable with.
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Cheers for the video man , really useful info !!!! +1 sub from me
@dmikee thank you very much for the sub! I'm happy you found the content useful!
isn’t it flimsy under load tho with the plate sagging like that
@F82stoss once it is secured, it is not flimsy. Holds pretty well! Haven't had to readjust it since I attached it.
@@JCCollinsRacing Hell ya good to know. Hyped for all my new gear to show up
I have mine mounted with the plate in the same position but drilled some new holes to move the DD a bit closer to me and use 4 fixing points. I did find a bit of flex so I bought the Pro 3D printed braces from IndigoLime and it's so much better. They're available on eBay.
@@Abarth_71 Ok this is good to know! I was about to order the IndigoLime set but I was scared the braces that attached to the plate would hit my knees but I guess not?
@@stoss-11 no issues with the knees.
Looks like plate would get in the way with hand when wheel is on
@Stuart Pietzka I can assure you that it doesn't. I had the same initial thought before doing this but my hands never come in contact with the plate. I will be doing another video where I show what it looks like with the wheel attached and how it feels while using the wheel.
which is the best lenght for the m6 ?
25mm (roughly 1 inch).
@@JCCollinsRacing they say 15mm… sure ?
My Playseat bolts are too long, I need to buy smaller one
Did you try to use those bolts on all three slots of the CSL DD? The middle slot is not as deep as the other two and doesn't need to be as tight. I tightened the other two down enough to hold the base in place and the middle just enough to keep the base stable.
I bought M6x16mm bolts, and M6 spacers (1.6mm thick) It worked great. But i bought a drill today, so I will drill a new centerhole, so I can have the CSL more centered over the bar, cause its very front heavy now and can tip over it feels like.
@@AndrewTSq Gotcha! It can tip over if given just enough of a push. Let me know how drilling the new center hole works out for you!
@@JCCollinsRacing I drilled 3 new holes actually. I felt that the steering wheel was too far away from me, so I had to make 3 new holes, but now its good. Now its a lot better, not so easy to tip over :)
@@AndrewTSq very nice!
but.. pedals?
I also did a video attaching the pedals to the PSC (Attaching the Clubsport V3 Pedals to PSC). Take s look at it and let me know if it helps. Thanks for watching!
its a nightmare. i tried it with a csl elite base and this thing absorbed so much of the ffb
@Tilo Frenzel the more I sim with the CSL DD, the more that I notice how much ffb the PSC absorbs. I don't think it's terrible, but it is noticeable. Also, I don't have an aluminum profile rig yet, so I don't have anything rigid to compare it to. I am putting together a review of the PSC + Fanatec combo and this is going to be one of the main talking points. Hope you tune in for that one!
Ok, the video is very clear and it looks good. However, I just got myself the Playseat to pair with my CSL DD and ran into to issues.
First of all, the "new" holes you use to mount the plate after you've turned it around are not tapered so the screws stick out pretty bad.
I could live with that, but the bigger issue are the bolts that fix to the T-nuts. In my case the two front ones are a good 1/2" too long so once they bottom out, the wheelbase still moves up and down a lot. No way I can use it like this.
Might have to go and look for shorter bolts, but this is super annoying considering how everyone raves how the playseat is compatible with Fanatec stuff. And don't get me started with the pedals where the velcro they provided is way too short to go around the V2 pedals. :(
I have the Elite v2 pedals and I used tire ups. They work perfectly fine.
Looks stupid cause its 2 far back on the base plate 😮
Don't let the look deceive you. It works perfectly! If that is too far back, you can slide it closer to your liking. Either way, the plate needs to be adjusted and this is something that Playseat accounted for with the adjustability of the PSC. Whether too far or too close, the PSC will handle the CSL DD without issue.
i did it like it a few days ago, my mans a lifesaver here
@@JCCollinsRacingProblem is it will either be too far back or too close to you (if you keep the plate in its original position). I've kept the plate flipped cause the original position is way too close for me (I'm also 6 feet like you).