Thank you for a detailed look into the GT DD Pro wheel base, accessories, price points, set up and compatability. I feel a lot of wheel racing TH-camrs seem to forget these nuances and just make racing videos.
my sim racing journey has gone like this: g29, t300, TGT, csw v2.5, DD1, simucube 2 pro... csl dd pro 8nm. i spent so much money buying gear for the wrong reasons, i wanted the best because i thought it would feel better and make me a better driver but the sacrifice i made in doing so was not being able to play the games i wanted to play, was all well and good having a simucube 2 pro but i always knew the day would come when a game like GT7 drops and i wont be using the simucube 2 pro and id have to pretend i didn't want to play GT7 anyway because i was a ''real sim racer'' truth was, i did want to play it and i didn't give two shits about being a hardcore sim racer so i sold the simucube and ordered a csl dd pro, im happier now knowing im racing for the right reasons, because i actually am playing the game i want to play and not pretending i never wanted to anyway. what a crazy hobby though. thing is, now i have to go to bed and ask myself did i mean what i just said or do i wish i had kept the simucube really.
I'm on the same journey. G29, t300, then T3PA pedals, then Ferrari rim, then sparco 33cm rally rim. Then on Friday was TGT2 servo base and T-LCM pedals. I'm sure I'm done now. The TGT is plenty smooth and strong, the transducer is awesome for interpreting under and oversteer and the loadcell pedals are awesome.
I borrowed a G29 from a friend and bought a Playseat challenge. I really enjoy it with GT7. Would you say it is worth getting the GT DD Pro? Is it that much better if I mainly play GT7?
@@Alex-HD the G29 honestly feels like a toy compared to something like the thrusmaster T300 with a good rim like the Ferrari alcantara or sparco. The jump to DD will be insanely impressive. But it's quite a commitment, because soon you'll want the 8nm power system, then some decent loadcell pedals, shifter, hand break. And then also a bigger wheel rim. All depends on how seriously you're going to take the hobby. I have the TGT2 wheelbase with a big sparco wheel, it's amazing, even compared with the t300. I'll definitely upgrade to a thrusmaster DD base when it's available, and keep all my accessories.
Tomorrow is my birthday. I always watch your product reviews to gauge what I should buy and get good quality information. I was going to just pull the trigger on this but my girl literally just had me open the T300 RS GT. I’m very happy
Ended up ordering one in part due to your video. Coming from a T300 and a T150 before that with TLCM pedals. After an evening with it I'm surprised its as big of a jump as it is from the T300. Across the board from build quality to the feedback you get from Gran Turismo 7. Nice surprise is how absolutely quiet it is. The biggest surprise for me? I actually love the pedals. I've got the load cell coming next month but could easily survive without it. These pedals are far better than the cheap stuff you get from Thrustmaster (maybe the TGT pedals are better but my buddy with the TGT is dieing to take my TLCMs off my hands which were a huge upgrade over my other Thrustmaster pedals that I could now easily live without with the CSL pedals sans the load cell kit). I'll note for anyone looking at this I went straight for the 8nm boost kit. I can't speak to anything about the 5nm, I just went all in though I did lose the $20 discount ordering the load cell separately so everything else would ship immediately. If you're thinking about it and can afford it do it, you won't regret it but probably go for the boost kit out the gate, that seems to be the consensus from just about everyone.
This torque issue is something marketing shoves in our minds... a mkt war... we have now bases with 25nm of torque. A REAL CAR usually have a max torque in it's wheels of 7nm. Some cars have more, up to 12nm. 8nm is perfect. It's like a real car. Also, people fell happy with stuff like G29 and similar (much cheaper, ok), some of these entry wheels are well below 1nm of torque, like 0.3nm. And most people fells it like very good torque. 5 is a LOT.
None of us need stupid levels of torque but it is nice to have some spare so that you don't get clipping when racing. Low power wheels always end up ditching force feedback data due to clipping.
This was a great video. Showing so many different closeups actually gives us a good idea of what the product looks like. Plus your style of editing is entertaining
I appreciate this video a lot! Just ordered a newly offered standalone version of the base which is automatically bundled with the 8nm powerpack. Im happy to be hyped for it haha!
Quite tempted to finally pull the trigger and buy one. Have had a T300RS for years… was scared with how many people claim theirs had broke but mines soldiered on. Amazing quality video!
Thank you for a great review. Based on this (and a few others) I bought this bundle and I agree with everything you said. Coming from a Logitech G923, this bundle costs about twice as much but it is exponentially better. In other words, 100% worth the extra cost if want more realism, functionality and performance. And I also agree that the added loadcell and power supply are worth the expense and will be added by many purchasers. Including them makes this package more than triple the Logitech which would have been off-putting for me as I didn’t know what I was missing. If you’ve never drive a DD rig it might seem excessive. Once you have experienced DD you will understand the added value. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for your thoughtful reviews and keep up the great channel!
7:20 "T-Nuts can also be inserted on the bottom or side of wheelbase" ... proceeds to show how not to mount t-nuts. sorry dude some people just get triggered (yes i think i have ocd). still good video thank you. the thing is ordered.
I had the CSL 2.5 wheel base which was a bit more expensive (whole package with shipping to Canada cost about $1400+ with duties) and had the load cell and CSL pedals, rally wheel, and clamp. It eventually hurt my weak ass wrists with too much use because it was so much damn fun playing Dirt Rally 2.0 (still the best rally game) and a bunch of other games. Gran turismo was ok.. but felt very Arcady compared to a lot of other games. Try rally 2.0 if you haven’t.
Good overview. I like the DD Pro hub and even the pedals but finding the wheel too small, crushes my thumbs and the rubber coating is already showing signs of wear after only a couple of weeks. If you buy I'd suggest you need to budget for a replacement wheel at some point.
699.99 is not a low cost wheel! Why is it $300 more than the non PS edition? Is it only because of the actual wheel? Then have a bundle that comes with a more basic wheel.
My DD Pro has just cleared Customs so I wanted a recent POV of the package. Thank you for that. I do feel that all the reviews tend to come from people who have or have experienced DD before. It's like driving a supercar then getting into a hot hatch. Still loads of fun but you can't unlearn the prior experience even if the hot hatch is a step up from your daily grocery getter. I'll try to remember to let you know what it feels like going from a G25 that I've had for over 15 years straight to a DD wheel. Thanks, excellent video. I will get the load cell later this year and probably another wheel for PC sim games.
Hey man, how does it feel, it's been quite sometime since ur comment. I want to upgrade and they are fully out of stock. Do u think a used setup is worth it for around 1k Canadian dollars?
@@randomperson6125 Okay, first of all, it feels great and better than the G25 but mainly in the smoothness and the strength. It was worth the price and the wait and other than one sim, the set-up has been really easy. I still haven''t gotten the load cell brake but that's on the Christmas list. Because of the shortage of stock, used wheels are going to be in demand and more expensive than normal. If the 1K Cdn $$ is all in (shipping, taxes and so forth then it's not much different than what I paid new. You'll have to decide if it's worth it but I'm really happy I bought the DD Pro and can use it on all my sims including GT& and F1 2022.
@@ronknox3376 thanks for the detailed reply and yea since they are out of stock, used setups are overpriced and so cost more than new. Even If they do come back in stick, shipping and handling together add a lot of other unnecessary cost. Might just go for it since its the 8nm version and I am buying it off of Facebook marketplace. Hopefully its a good one and worth it.
5nm felt perfectly fine to me, right up until I moved it from a desk mount to a proper rig......instantly it felt dainty. Suffice to say I've got the booster pack on order.
Just wondering: you are used to high level DD wheels. so to you the differnece in force is very noticeable and will leave you wanting vor more very very quick. For me however, using a T300 it feels like I will have a longer period that it will satisfy me, so to me it really makes sense to start with this base and slowly upgrade, especially because of budget reasons. In the end I will have spend maybe a little more, but the investment is spread out over a longer period of time, so it is not a big hit on my day to day spending.
I use the T300 also. Is good for now, but am considering to buy a Direct Drive. Just because you don't have the belt and DD is more accurate. Also you can put in corrections faster when you're about to apin.
I just got my DD Pro coming from a T300 and its a huge upgrade. I went straight for the 8nm boost kit. Would definitely recommend it but if you couldn't afford it I could easily see you still finding the 5nm probably a big upgrade. Personally I'm finding the 8nm to be really strong even on just a 2 sensitivity in GT7. Its kind of hard for me to wrap my head around there being wheels that are 2-3x stronger. I would still suggest going straight for the boost kit out the gate but if you can't you can't and you're still going to find this a big upgrade over the T300. Evening having TLCM pedals, which was my one hang-up going this route since the load cell kit can't ship until next month, I'm surprised by how good the regular pedals feel.
I am trying to find a direct-drive bundle that is for both PS4 and PC and I can't find a cheaper than this. I am seriously thinking about T300 even if it is not direct-drive :(
8:03 really? Yes, a strong force is needed if you insert it this way. shove it in straight and you won't have to use much force and you wont damage it overtime...
Once again another quality video one suggestion if you can maybe do a review on the T-GT II from thrustmaster I’ll be cool so have a honest preview from them maybe even a comparison
The thing that got me about this bundle, well the upgraded pedals and 8nm version, was that you can get the same LC pedals, an 8nm DD1, and the McLaren wheel for less. I was told you are essentially paying for PS compatibility so as a pc user I think it is better to buy the components individually.
I mean, that's the point of this isn't it? It's specifically made/targetted for Gran Turismo on the Playstation with PC compatibility as a side feature. If you just need one for the PC, Fanatec as you stated has other offerings at a better price point. With that context, this is the best Playstation compatible wheel bundle out there. If you're purely a PC user, why are you even looking at this then?
@@jed1mstr Fanatec's website is not promoting this as a Playstation-specific bundle. The premium package is at the top of their bundle section and says 'PC. XBox Ready. PS' in that order, left to right. That looks like they are aiming to sell this to people who use PC or XBox, not just PS users. Fanatec has a very large set of wheels and the prices of their entry-level stuff has traditionally been a fair bit higher than Logitech (quality reasons obviously) and Thrustmaster. Both of these would likely put off people who do not have a lot of knowledge and/or limited budgets. Bundles as a general rule offer a more affordable package than putting together a bespoke one choosing the individual components. This is normally because the bundle utilises cheaper stuff. They attract people with limited knowledge and limited budgets. This bundle is more expensive, albeit not by much, than the equivalent wheelbase, pedals, and wheel on the cheaper end of the scale. That, to me, is a little bit naughty. If they were marketing it on their website predominantly for PS users and/or Gran Turismo enthusiasts that would be fine. But they are not. In point of fact the only complete bundles in that section are the various GT DD Pro ones.
@@Meylan191083 How can you NOT think that the GT (Gran Turismo) DD Pro which is the officially licensed Playstation wheel for Gran Turismo (again it's in the name) that was also designed in conjunction with Polyphony Digital, the Developers of Gran Turismo which is a Playstation exclusive title, isn't a product primarily marketed to Playstation users? It's even in the first description text: "Introducing the official Direct Drive Wheel for Gran Turismo®. Combining PlayStation®5 console performance with FANATEC® Direct Drive technology for the smoothest and most dynamic force feedback sensations." Also Playstation buttons? The order of the compatibility labels (PC, XBox Read, PS) is purely a general website thing with shared assets and has nothing to do with how this Playstion specific licensed peripheral is marketed.
@@jed1mstr The absence of any other bundle. Yes if you click on the description it is full of Gran Turismo and Playstation references. Hardly surprising. But the lack of any other bundle on that page suggests that Fanatec are attempting to sell this to a much wider range of users and doing so in what, to me, is a sneaky way. A less experienced PC user will gravitate to the bundle page (which is why it is there), see that this is PC compatible as well and think it is a great deal. I know this, because I nearly got caught out by it. The wheel itself did not interest me but the loadcell pedals, and direct drive wheelbase did, to the point where I would have accepted a wheel I wasn't particularly into as a compromise way to get the other parts cheaply. I only stumbled onto the fact that it is actually MORE expensive when I put together a spreadsheet of the costs with a view to justifying the intended purchase to my girlfriend on the basis that as a bundle it is cheaper than buying the individual components.
@@Meylan191083 I think that's more a you issue for not catching on to the fact that "Gran Turismo" DD Pro, a Gran Turismo Playstation officially licensed wheel as shown in all the regular marketing, videos, commercials, etc, was Playstation targetted when you went to a single Fanatec Page. Yes, you can argue that it can catch people out, but come on.
Man man man, the way you make your videos!! High quality man, much respect! The edit, colors etc. Great. Like my GT DD Pro base with Boost kit, but sadly had to buy the Bundle to get the base only 😖
So, upgrade, upgrade.......... think you may have just sold me on the logitech G pro wheel. Was hoping this would sway me to the GT DD. This shit is stressfull...... haha, want it for PS5 (and PC of course)
Good information, but one little detail was not mentionned - end price. More specificly, the UPS service costs to get any FANATEC products delivered to you, because they don't sell in shops. If the kit cost is 500, the buyer will have to spend another 3 to 5 hundred to get it delivered, in questionable condition as UPS are known to be a bad item courrier yet very expencive. FANATEC will remain out of reach for all potential buyers in the future as well.
This is the reason I won’t buy Fanatec at the moment, I can buy Thrustmaster anywhere and know what I am paying with next day delivery. Fanatec is direct from the factory with hundreds in unknown charges and taxes after purchase with unknown delivery times.
@@S41t4r4 it just isn't very consumer friendly. The buying experience is awkward, not really about the final figure, it would just be much more enticing if I could buy it, know exactly what I am paying and know when I will receive it. Paying for something when I have no idea when I will receive it, it proving a sticking point. That's why I haven't purchased yet.
p.s you say Logitech pedals are mainly plastic but in fact they are quality metal pedals set onto a steel plate with just a plastic cover on top .The pedal plates are really well made and ground aluminum where it counts the plastic is saved for where it doesn't matter .Fanatec are still good pedals but very noisy tho.
Ok so here is my question.... on this review I pretty much saw 90% Asseto Corsa and not GT7.... I read on another review that Asseto Corsa on PS has very subpar feedback on this particular wheel (not an issue on Xbox supposedly) so I'm a little bit hesitant on trusting the feedback part given I THINK he's making this review based on AC and not GT7... any thoughts?
You can build your own 8nm power supply. I built my own for less than $50. Bunch of TH-cam videos on it. Paying $150 for a 180 watt power supply is stupid.
@@OCRacing same here, I bought the csl dd and the clubsport v3 cause the dd pro package is not as convincing with the plastic wheel and way weaker pedals. Is there no option to use the csl dd with a ps5?
@@Gelangweilter Nope. It lacks the certification chip from Sony. Not a firmware issue... BUT - you can adapt it with a specific piece of hardware - google is your friend.
I may get this solely on the fact that I have both ps5 and xsx. Want wheels for both but would make more sense to get this instead of like 2 thrustmaster or Logitech sets
I prefer to save my money buy a real DD and stay on my csl elite why I do so it’s more than adequate for now I know how to set mine up for the best FFB experience
As this is my first direct drive Sim setup...its perfect. I had the g29 from ligitech and it was a joke...the better part of 500 dollars for a setup that isn't even as good as the g20. The dd pro is amazing for what it is.
hey oc about the handbrake you just need to look ub 64bit usb handbrake.Its looks like it has a foam handle and it comes in eather red blue and black and can you review it on playstation. The wheel looks on logitech. Hope you get to more than 100k
I’m hoping you can help. I just got mine in and it’s the same as you reviewed. I feel it load up going into turn and as I apply gas it starts to shake it almost feels like cars tires are hopping
HAve you tried it with the desk clamp? I don't have space for a wheelstand or rig so that's why I'm asking if it would work anyway, also thinking about upgrading to the csl dsk clamp instead as it seem more robust since it's not plastic although I won't have the tilt function si the base will sit flat on top of the table so might be a bit to low for my liking.....
Fanatec has so many logistical problems and customer service problems that i will never ever order from those crooks again. Fix it or good bye. In fact, i went Logitec DD Pro, and I will never ever look back. What a dream.
Is there something wrong with my DD pro , oscillation even on straightaways, losing control of car for no reason (on controller would never happen) and firmware and settings are all updated.
Holy crap... I was considering getting into a wheel, but this sounds like a painful rabbit hole. I'm not a hardcore racing guy, but I love GT7. I don't think I can justify paying double the price of a console for a single game. Looks like it's the PS5 Dual Sense for me.
huh? This is flagship stuff, just get a Logitech g27 or what ever the PS5 version is. they are good wheels for starting out and there on facebook market place for like £100
Quick question : i'm considering upgrading my G27. Do you think that the DD Pro (5nm) is a good upgrade, with the load cell and boost kit coming after as an upgrade when my finances have recovered ?
@@TheEpyonz my question was on getting the boost pack later, not on upgrading the wheel itself ! Of course going from logitech to Fanatec is going to be a nice upgrade, but i was wondering if delaying the boost kit upgrade is a nice idea
hi i went from a g29 to a tgt with load cell pedals and the difference was it was much more immersive and realistic than the g29 and so much smoother smashed my previous stage and lap times in my racing games which are mainly wrc 9 & 10 f1 2022 dirt rally 2.0 now i always turn the Force feedback down as i like to use a lightish feel especially on rally games i now cant afford a DD wheel as im now retired at 60 yrs of age my biggest worry is if my tgt were to pack up what cud i have as a back up ? i have the f1 wheel ferrari evo30 , and the sparco rally wheel which is my favourite so ive seen the T300 servo only for £239.99 would you say this would be ok simply as a back up wheel ?? and worth getting just in case ?? some people say the T300 is actually smoother than the tgt ? any advice much appreciated thankyou
I love the production quality of this guy's videos
Thank you 🙏 many hours are spent on it 😅
Absolutely, there is no-one even close!
Ikr I’m surprised he doesn’t have as many subscribers as boosted media
@@akpanjennings i agree, i like OC 10 times better than boosted media
Wheel goes brrr
Thank you for a detailed look into the GT DD Pro wheel base, accessories, price points, set up and compatability. I feel a lot of wheel racing TH-camrs seem to forget these nuances and just make racing videos.
my sim racing journey has gone like this: g29, t300, TGT, csw v2.5, DD1, simucube 2 pro... csl dd pro 8nm.
i spent so much money buying gear for the wrong reasons, i wanted the best because i thought it would feel better and make me a better driver but the sacrifice i made in doing so was not being able to play the games i wanted to play, was all well and good having a simucube 2 pro but i always knew the day would come when a game like GT7 drops and i wont be using the simucube 2 pro and id have to pretend i didn't want to play GT7 anyway because i was a ''real sim racer''
truth was, i did want to play it and i didn't give two shits about being a hardcore sim racer so i sold the simucube and ordered a csl dd pro, im happier now knowing im racing for the right reasons, because i actually am playing the game i want to play and not pretending i never wanted to anyway. what a crazy hobby though.
thing is, now i have to go to bed and ask myself did i mean what i just said or do i wish i had kept the simucube really.
I think you made the right decision. Sometimes it’s more about having fun than trying to be 100% realistic
Wow that’s dope. My question is What is the best racing wheel have you tried or used?
I'm on the same journey. G29, t300, then T3PA pedals, then Ferrari rim, then sparco 33cm rally rim. Then on Friday was TGT2 servo base and T-LCM pedals. I'm sure I'm done now. The TGT is plenty smooth and strong, the transducer is awesome for interpreting under and oversteer and the loadcell pedals are awesome.
I borrowed a G29 from a friend and bought a Playseat challenge. I really enjoy it with GT7. Would you say it is worth getting the GT DD Pro? Is it that much better if I mainly play GT7?
@@Alex-HD the G29 honestly feels like a toy compared to something like the thrusmaster T300 with a good rim like the Ferrari alcantara or sparco. The jump to DD will be insanely impressive. But it's quite a commitment, because soon you'll want the 8nm power system, then some decent loadcell pedals, shifter, hand break. And then also a bigger wheel rim. All depends on how seriously you're going to take the hobby. I have the TGT2 wheelbase with a big sparco wheel, it's amazing, even compared with the t300. I'll definitely upgrade to a thrusmaster DD base when it's available, and keep all my accessories.
Tomorrow is my birthday. I always watch your product reviews to gauge what I should buy and get good quality information. I was going to just pull the trigger on this but my girl literally just had me open the T300 RS GT. I’m very happy
w Birthday, w gift, w girlfriend
This thing is just entirely too expensive to not include the full pedal set and shifter.
or atleast just include the clutch
I think its a decent price for an entry DDU that includes mostly everything.
@Fionn MacCuill how dose the pedals hook up do they connect to the wheel base or usb to the computer
@Fionn MacCuill thanks
@@flush_entity no
Ended up ordering one in part due to your video. Coming from a T300 and a T150 before that with TLCM pedals.
After an evening with it I'm surprised its as big of a jump as it is from the T300. Across the board from build quality to the feedback you get from Gran Turismo 7. Nice surprise is how absolutely quiet it is.
The biggest surprise for me? I actually love the pedals. I've got the load cell coming next month but could easily survive without it. These pedals are far better than the cheap stuff you get from Thrustmaster (maybe the TGT pedals are better but my buddy with the TGT is dieing to take my TLCMs off my hands which were a huge upgrade over my other Thrustmaster pedals that I could now easily live without with the CSL pedals sans the load cell kit).
I'll note for anyone looking at this I went straight for the 8nm boost kit. I can't speak to anything about the 5nm, I just went all in though I did lose the $20 discount ordering the load cell separately so everything else would ship immediately.
If you're thinking about it and can afford it do it, you won't regret it but probably go for the boost kit out the gate, that seems to be the consensus from just about everyone.
I also went from T300 to CSL DD (8Nm) with Formula V2. I agree the difference huge, i hardly ever run it at full power.
So how was it 😊
This torque issue is something marketing shoves in our minds... a mkt war... we have now bases with 25nm of torque.
A REAL CAR usually have a max torque in it's wheels of 7nm. Some cars have more, up to 12nm.
8nm is perfect. It's like a real car.
Also, people fell happy with stuff like G29 and similar (much cheaper, ok), some of these entry wheels are well below 1nm of torque, like 0.3nm. And most people fells it like very good torque. 5 is a LOT.
@@rdb223 same man I went with the standard one since the option to upgrade is there later.
None of us need stupid levels of torque but it is nice to have some spare so that you don't get clipping when racing. Low power wheels always end up ditching force feedback data due to clipping.
I have waited so long for this, and I’m so hyped for more fanatec reviews
It has been a long time coming to say the least 😅
This was a great video.
Showing so many different closeups actually gives us a good idea of what the product looks like. Plus your style of editing is entertaining
Good to hear, thanks :)
I appreciate this video a lot! Just ordered a newly offered standalone version of the base which is automatically bundled with the 8nm powerpack. Im happy to be hyped for it haha!
Quite tempted to finally pull the trigger and buy one. Have had a T300RS for years… was scared with how many people claim theirs had broke but mines soldiered on. Amazing quality video!
I don't know how you produce so many videos and such a high quality. I can tell you put a insane amount of work into these.
Thank you for a great review. Based on this (and a few others) I bought this bundle and I agree with everything you said. Coming from a Logitech G923, this bundle costs about twice as much but it is exponentially better. In other words, 100% worth the extra cost if want more realism, functionality and performance. And I also agree that the added loadcell and power supply are worth the expense and will be added by many purchasers. Including them makes this package more than triple the Logitech which would have been off-putting for me as I didn’t know what I was missing. If you’ve never drive a DD rig it might seem excessive. Once you have experienced DD you will understand the added value. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for your thoughtful reviews and keep up the great channel!
the editing keeps getting better, nice work 👍
Phenomenal quality to the production kudos
Oh my god your videos are getting better and better each time you upload!! Bravo!!
This guy is the textbook definition of quality/quantity
Gon’ make me cry man 🥲
7:20 "T-Nuts can also be inserted on the bottom or side of wheelbase" ... proceeds to show how not to mount t-nuts. sorry dude some people just get triggered (yes i think i have ocd).
still good video thank you. the thing is ordered.
my fav sim racing content creator
You’re too kind 🙏
I had the CSL 2.5 wheel base which was a bit more expensive (whole package with shipping to Canada cost about $1400+ with duties) and had the load cell and CSL pedals, rally wheel, and clamp. It eventually hurt my weak ass wrists with too much use because it was so much damn fun playing Dirt Rally 2.0 (still the best rally game) and a bunch of other games. Gran turismo was ok.. but felt very Arcady compared to a lot of other games. Try rally 2.0 if you haven’t.
Bro this video is excellent. Great review. Great editing. A+++! Keep up the great work
Thank you, Alex! Will do :)
Great videos. You helped me decide on the T300 over the “new at the time “T248…that would have been a huge mistake.
Glad I could help. Cheers 🍻
Nicely balanced short review, thanks.
Thanks for watching :)
shitt man your video quality was high af but that intro was the best intro I've seen from you 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you, thank you 🙏
Good overview. I like the DD Pro hub and even the pedals but finding the wheel too small, crushes my thumbs and the rubber coating is already showing signs of wear after only a couple of weeks. If you buy I'd suggest you need to budget for a replacement wheel at some point.
Mine has just cleared customs, here tomorrow!
How’s it been??
I don't like the wheel it looks like a cheap toy. When I build my rig I'm going to buy the wheel base and then buy a more premium wheel.
Get the 8nM boost kit. Its double the power. Yes… 5 + 3 = 8… but ask anyone including Jardier in youtube… its double.. very powerful.
699.99 is not a low cost wheel! Why is it $300 more than the non PS edition? Is it only because of the actual wheel? Then have a bundle that comes with a more basic wheel.
My DD Pro has just cleared Customs so I wanted a recent POV of the package. Thank you for that. I do feel that all the reviews tend to come from people who have or have experienced DD before. It's like driving a supercar then getting into a hot hatch. Still loads of fun but you can't unlearn the prior experience even if the hot hatch is a step up from your daily grocery getter.
I'll try to remember to let you know what it feels like going from a G25 that I've had for over 15 years straight to a DD wheel. Thanks, excellent video.
I will get the load cell later this year and probably another wheel for PC sim games.
Hey man, how does it feel, it's been quite sometime since ur comment. I want to upgrade and they are fully out of stock. Do u think a used setup is worth it for around 1k Canadian dollars?
@@randomperson6125 Okay, first of all, it feels great and better than the G25 but mainly in the smoothness and the strength. It was worth the price and the wait and other than one sim, the set-up has been really easy. I still haven''t gotten the load cell brake but that's on the Christmas list.
Because of the shortage of stock, used wheels are going to be in demand and more expensive than normal. If the 1K Cdn $$ is all in (shipping, taxes and so forth then it's not much different than what I paid new. You'll have to decide if it's worth it but I'm really happy I bought the DD Pro and can use it on all my sims including GT& and F1 2022.
@@ronknox3376 thanks for the detailed reply and yea since they are out of stock, used setups are overpriced and so cost more than new. Even If they do come back in stick, shipping and handling together add a lot of other unnecessary cost. Might just go for it since its the 8nm version and I am buying it off of Facebook marketplace. Hopefully its a good one and worth it.
5nm felt perfectly fine to me, right up until I moved it from a desk mount to a proper rig......instantly it felt dainty. Suffice to say I've got the booster pack on order.
Just wondering: you are used to high level DD wheels. so to you the differnece in force is very noticeable and will leave you wanting vor more very very quick. For me however, using a T300 it feels like I will have a longer period that it will satisfy me, so to me it really makes sense to start with this base and slowly upgrade, especially because of budget reasons. In the end I will have spend maybe a little more, but the investment is spread out over a longer period of time, so it is not a big hit on my day to day spending.
I would totally agree with you. At the end of the day, the 5nm is enough for most people it may just not be what I’m used to.
I use the T300 also. Is good for now, but am considering to buy a Direct Drive. Just because you don't have the belt and DD is more accurate. Also you can put in corrections faster when you're about to apin.
I just got my DD Pro coming from a T300 and its a huge upgrade. I went straight for the 8nm boost kit. Would definitely recommend it but if you couldn't afford it I could easily see you still finding the 5nm probably a big upgrade. Personally I'm finding the 8nm to be really strong even on just a 2 sensitivity in GT7. Its kind of hard for me to wrap my head around there being wheels that are 2-3x stronger. I would still suggest going straight for the boost kit out the gate but if you can't you can't and you're still going to find this a big upgrade over the T300. Evening having TLCM pedals, which was my one hang-up going this route since the load cell kit can't ship until next month, I'm surprised by how good the regular pedals feel.
I got the 8Nm CSL DD after the T300. It's a big step dude. Its great.
@@sjamwala No, the dd pro is complete scam… I come from a t300 and the dd pro has no strong ffb at all
Good quality, honest review 👍 8nm seems like the way to go
Thanks for the great detail in your vid. I just hope that you are racing with both feet, you will be much faster. Peace!
Yup! Just race with one foot in some videos so you can get a good look at the pedals and my legs don’t get in the way of the shot 😅
Im coming from a G29 so its a big upgrade even with 5nm :)
I am trying to find a direct-drive bundle that is for both PS4 and PC and I can't find a cheaper than this. I am seriously thinking about T300 even if it is not direct-drive :(
8:03 really? Yes, a strong force is needed if you insert it this way. shove it in straight and you won't have to use much force and you wont damage it overtime...
I’m new at this sim racing so I got the 5NM first to see how it feel for the first time.
Once again another quality video one suggestion if you can maybe do a review on the T-GT II from thrustmaster I’ll be cool so have a honest preview from them maybe even a comparison
Coming soon?! 👀
The thing that got me about this bundle, well the upgraded pedals and 8nm version, was that you can get the same LC pedals, an 8nm DD1, and the McLaren wheel for less. I was told you are essentially paying for PS compatibility so as a pc user I think it is better to buy the components individually.
I mean, that's the point of this isn't it? It's specifically made/targetted for Gran Turismo on the Playstation with PC compatibility as a side feature. If you just need one for the PC, Fanatec as you stated has other offerings at a better price point. With that context, this is the best Playstation compatible wheel bundle out there. If you're purely a PC user, why are you even looking at this then?
@@jed1mstr Fanatec's website is not promoting this as a Playstation-specific bundle. The premium package is at the top of their bundle section and says 'PC. XBox Ready. PS' in that order, left to right. That looks like they are aiming to sell this to people who use PC or XBox, not just PS users.
Fanatec has a very large set of wheels and the prices of their entry-level stuff has traditionally been a fair bit higher than Logitech (quality reasons obviously) and Thrustmaster. Both of these would likely put off people who do not have a lot of knowledge and/or limited budgets.
Bundles as a general rule offer a more affordable package than putting together a bespoke one choosing the individual components. This is normally because the bundle utilises cheaper stuff. They attract people with limited knowledge and limited budgets.
This bundle is more expensive, albeit not by much, than the equivalent wheelbase, pedals, and wheel on the cheaper end of the scale.
That, to me, is a little bit naughty. If they were marketing it on their website predominantly for PS users and/or Gran Turismo enthusiasts that would be fine. But they are not. In point of fact the only complete bundles in that section are the various GT DD Pro ones.
@@Meylan191083 How can you NOT think that the GT (Gran Turismo) DD Pro which is the officially licensed Playstation wheel for Gran Turismo (again it's in the name) that was also designed in conjunction with Polyphony Digital, the Developers of Gran Turismo which is a Playstation exclusive title, isn't a product primarily marketed to Playstation users? It's even in the first description text: "Introducing the official Direct Drive Wheel for Gran Turismo®. Combining PlayStation®5 console performance with FANATEC® Direct Drive technology for the smoothest and most dynamic force feedback sensations." Also Playstation buttons? The order of the compatibility labels (PC, XBox Read, PS) is purely a general website thing with shared assets and has nothing to do with how this Playstion specific licensed peripheral is marketed.
@@jed1mstr The absence of any other bundle.
Yes if you click on the description it is full of Gran Turismo and Playstation references. Hardly surprising. But the lack of any other bundle on that page suggests that Fanatec are attempting to sell this to a much wider range of users and doing so in what, to me, is a sneaky way.
A less experienced PC user will gravitate to the bundle page (which is why it is there), see that this is PC compatible as well and think it is a great deal. I know this, because I nearly got caught out by it. The wheel itself did not interest me but the loadcell pedals, and direct drive wheelbase did, to the point where I would have accepted a wheel I wasn't particularly into as a compromise way to get the other parts cheaply.
I only stumbled onto the fact that it is actually MORE expensive when I put together a spreadsheet of the costs with a view to justifying the intended purchase to my girlfriend on the basis that as a bundle it is cheaper than buying the individual components.
@@Meylan191083 I think that's more a you issue for not catching on to the fact that "Gran Turismo" DD Pro, a Gran Turismo Playstation officially licensed wheel as shown in all the regular marketing, videos, commercials, etc, was Playstation targetted when you went to a single Fanatec Page. Yes, you can argue that it can catch people out, but come on.
Me who just wants a wheel like my t80 and seeing people complain about no forcefeedback:
*I never needed it in the first place*
Man man man, the way you make your videos!! High quality man, much respect! The edit, colors etc. Great. Like my GT DD Pro base with Boost kit, but sadly had to buy the Bundle to get the base only 😖
Thanks, Gio!
So, upgrade, upgrade.......... think you may have just sold me on the logitech G pro wheel. Was hoping this would sway me to the GT DD. This shit is stressfull...... haha, want it for PS5 (and PC of course)
Literally every reviewer complains about the 5nm torque but it's like.. hell my shoulders were tired after using a G29 for an hour, 5nm would kill me.
Give away at 30k? 👀
Also this csl dd bundle sell for $1,200 in Thailand same price as csl elite 💀
Best thing to buy if CSL is out of stock and Moza wants to charge 155 for the US shipping 😅
I spotted world famous Eddy Wally!
The top tier version of this wheel has 8nm.
Just remember the dd pro will not have as much in gt7 but in every other game it will.
Good information, but one little detail was not mentionned - end price. More specificly, the UPS service costs to get any FANATEC products delivered to you, because they don't sell in shops. If the kit cost is 500, the buyer will have to spend another 3 to 5 hundred to get it delivered, in questionable condition as UPS are known to be a bad item courrier yet very expencive. FANATEC will remain out of reach for all potential buyers in the future as well.
This is the reason I won’t buy Fanatec at the moment, I can buy Thrustmaster anywhere and know what I am paying with next day delivery. Fanatec is direct from the factory with hundreds in unknown charges and taxes after purchase with unknown delivery times.
Shipping for me was only $30, no big deal. Also it got shipped through fedex. Even at that the box is very well packed.
@@JesseJTheGreat shipping to UK is £80 plus £200 Tax and about £30 customs duty, all payable before receipt, not at time of purchase.
@@TheGheddon while it's pretty expensive, that not really the fault of fanatec.
@@S41t4r4 it just isn't very consumer friendly. The buying experience is awkward, not really about the final figure, it would just be much more enticing if I could buy it, know exactly what I am paying and know when I will receive it. Paying for something when I have no idea when I will receive it, it proving a sticking point. That's why I haven't purchased yet.
To be honest I prefer my fanatec podium unit for my ps5 , but I also enjoy the gt2 when I just play gran turismo
p.s you say Logitech pedals are mainly plastic but in fact they are quality metal pedals set onto a steel plate with just a plastic cover on top .The pedal plates are really well made and ground aluminum where it counts the plastic is saved for where it doesn't matter .Fanatec are still good pedals but very noisy tho.
Ok so here is my question.... on this review I pretty much saw 90% Asseto Corsa and not GT7.... I read on another review that Asseto Corsa on PS has very subpar feedback on this particular wheel (not an issue on Xbox supposedly) so I'm a little bit hesitant on trusting the feedback part given I THINK he's making this review based on AC and not GT7... any thoughts?
Feedback on ACC, ps5 is super incredible. Lesser in GT7.
Get yourself a metal quick release and the load cell pedal.
This was my dream steering wheel but I’m not gonna get it good vid oc!
How come you’re not going to get it?
@@OCRacing first I’m broke second I’m saving up for moza steering wheel
You deserve more subscribers
Glad you think so!
I always wanted a Direct Drive wheel, just to feel how it is, but, if i buy One, I took note about buying the 8nm power adapter
Let me know if you ever end up getting one! And yes, highly advise going for the boost kit
@Erik Gonzalez yes
You can build your own 8nm power supply. I built my own for less than $50. Bunch of TH-cam videos on it.
Paying $150 for a 180 watt power supply is stupid.
@@xuimod That's nice, how do I do that?
Fanatec may have gotten backlash about the price, but they’re sold out, and I just paid double to get a used bundle off eBay lol
In this case which one you suggest then ?
Great video!!
Thanks ☺️
Can you use the Fanatec Clubsport pedals V3 with the GT DD Pro?
They should include the clutch pedal
Wish they sold it without pedals, would love it with a set of Clubsport V3s.
They does, although it's with the boost kit. They might release the basic one soon
@@mArvAlcao71 ideally, with the boost kit and the GT wheel.
load cell kit and maybe some grip tape
Definitely get the load cell brake kit. It's worth it just for the feedback.
6:24 did you really have to use that nuke alarm sound during these times
I have the 8 nm. Its so different. You definitely should of spent a bit more and got that version
Agreed!
From the sound of it he didn't pay shit. It was sent to him by Fanatec for (influencing purposes) review and content creation
@@StonedRambo01 Oh my, as if the average sim racing hobbyist doesnot understand how reviewers and influencers work.
I love my CSL DD but i freaking WISH i could’ve gotten the GT for GT7 ):
To be fair, the GT starts at $700 since it’s not available as a standalone compared to the CSL
@@OCRacing same here, I bought the csl dd and the clubsport v3 cause the dd pro package is not as convincing with the plastic wheel and way weaker pedals. Is there no option to use the csl dd with a ps5?
@@Gelangweilter Unfortunately not
@@OCRacing crap. Makes no sense. Is it possible that this can be fixed with a fanatec firmware update in the future?
@@Gelangweilter Nope. It lacks the certification chip from Sony. Not a firmware issue... BUT - you can adapt it with a specific piece of hardware - google is your friend.
I want to see a comparison between this and fanatecs podium racing wheel f1 since they both are Xbox ready
How’s force feedback/physics feel on GT7 with this dd base vs PC sims like ACC and iRacing?
I may get this solely on the fact that I have both ps5 and xsx. Want wheels for both but would make more sense to get this instead of like 2 thrustmaster or Logitech sets
Yes. Keep in mind you will need an Xbox compatible Fanatec wheel rim to use with it! Something like the McLaren GT3 wheel.
I would love to buy this thing if I could find it in stock at retail price anywhere
I wish they did an xbox version of this bundle
I prefer to save my money buy a real DD and stay on my csl elite why I do so it’s more than adequate for now I know how to set mine up for the best FFB experience
No clutch???? Needed?
load cell pedal is much more important than 8nm
What app or apps are you using for the 4th monitor up top?
Does this wheel perform well for games like Mudrunner and Snow runner?
The jokes on you my 2012 boss 302 has some cheap plastic on the wheel too...haha,jk man great video. I bought one of these. cant wait.
As this is my first direct drive Sim setup...its perfect. I had the g29 from ligitech and it was a joke...the better part of 500 dollars for a setup that isn't even as good as the g20.
The dd pro is amazing for what it is.
hey oc about the handbrake you just need to look ub 64bit usb handbrake.Its looks like it has a foam handle and it comes in eather red blue and black and can you review it on playstation. The wheel looks on logitech. Hope you get to more than 100k
I’m sure I’ll get on eventually
How do you connect 3 monitors on a console?
It is not possible
Is Fanatec really selling a power supply for 300 (AUD) bucks?
I’m hoping you can help. I just got mine in and it’s the same as you reviewed. I feel it load up going into turn and as I apply gas it starts to shake it almost feels like cars tires are hopping
Can you swap the wheel out with a different one
Yep. Most all Fanatec wheels will swap out. I swapped my GT wheel for a MacLaren from Fanatec and it works bad-ass.
HAve you tried it with the desk clamp? I don't have space for a wheelstand or rig so that's why I'm asking if it would work anyway, also thinking about upgrading to the csl dsk clamp instead as it seem more robust since it's not plastic although I won't have the tilt function si the base will sit flat on top of the table so might be a bit to low for my liking.....
Do i need something else to use it on pc? Is it still worth ? Was thinking about t300 rs gt first.
Ah you just answered my question : download the driver you are good to go! ❤️😂
Hey
Can i mount the fanatec csl dd on the f-gt lite?
(Love your vids keep it up)
I believe you can.
8:43 so should I add the 8Nm boost kit? I think i should
Which cockpit are you using at 9:24?
Fanatec has so many logistical problems and customer service problems that i will never ever order from those crooks again. Fix it or good bye. In fact, i went Logitec DD Pro, and I will never ever look back. What a dream.
Sounds to me like these guys are definitely selling the boost kit for fanstec.
2:25 Nice move
Glad someone noticed lol
@OC Racing please respond: is brake pedal stiffer than that in G29 pedalset? Thanks
Is there something wrong with my DD pro , oscillation even on straightaways, losing control of car for no reason (on controller would never happen) and firmware and settings are all updated.
Holy crap... I was considering getting into a wheel, but this sounds like a painful rabbit hole. I'm not a hardcore racing guy, but I love GT7. I don't think I can justify paying double the price of a console for a single game. Looks like it's the PS5 Dual Sense for me.
huh? This is flagship stuff, just get a Logitech g27 or what ever the PS5 version is. they are good wheels for starting out and there on facebook market place for like £100
Quick question : i'm considering upgrading my G27.
Do you think that the DD Pro (5nm) is a good upgrade, with the load cell and boost kit coming after as an upgrade when my finances have recovered ?
Absolutely!
@@OCRacing can you please say no ? Otherwise i'm going to eat pastas for the next months and the bank is going to hate me 😂
Yes - be careful though, you're going to want to upgrade quickly
Come on, do you even have to ask? The g27 is like baseline.
@@TheEpyonz my question was on getting the boost pack later, not on upgrading the wheel itself ! Of course going from logitech to Fanatec is going to be a nice upgrade, but i was wondering if delaying the boost kit upgrade is a nice idea
This is tough I just bought my first wheel a g29. Iv 28 days to return it should I for this
What you did?
@@martindescoteaux9288returned g29 bought the fan
hi i went from a g29 to a tgt with load cell pedals and the difference was it was much more immersive and realistic than the g29 and so much smoother smashed my previous stage and lap times in my racing games which are mainly wrc 9 & 10 f1 2022 dirt rally 2.0 now i always turn the Force feedback down as i like to use a lightish feel especially on rally games i now cant afford a DD wheel as im now retired at 60 yrs of age my biggest worry is if my tgt were to pack up what cud i have as a back up ? i have the f1 wheel ferrari evo30 , and the sparco rally wheel which is my favourite so ive seen the T300 servo only for £239.99 would you say this would be ok simply as a back up wheel ?? and worth getting just in case ?? some people say the T300 is actually smoother than the tgt ? any advice much appreciated thankyou
Kinda sucks I paid that much for the CSL Elite a couple years ago.
Csl dd plus eBay power supply gives you the 8nm without fanatec bs $150 price your welcome