Jamal Davis seeing as he's a big fan of the M and L series I'd like to see fawful's opinion on the new superstar saga remake I'm sure he'd welcome the return of fawful in the series since it's his favorite M and L character/villain
@@lapinangelique_ because before this, Logan only talked about it as a guest on other channels. Sorry for the 2 year late reply, I just didn't wanna leave your question hanging...
I'd have loved to see more of Paper Luigi in the game other than on the soundtrack screen. I personally was hoping for a Paper Mr. L and Papercraft Brobot throwback too. Everyone had their hopes for this game, and although it was a fun adventure, the turnout is vastly underwhelming compared to the potential.
I also REALLY want to hear his thoughts on this game. I want to know if I like it only because of nostalgia, or if maybe it really is as good as I think it is.
I mean the plot does make it out to be another Bowser kidnaps peach but thats only for like half the story wheres peach in the other half? nowhere except in her castle Bowser is now on a rampage destroying the mushroom kingdom and flattening it threatening both Mario's world and Paper Mario's
My recomendation? Super Smash Bros. Brawl. If Paper Jam is overshadowed by its fellow games, than Brawl is fucking eclipsed by its party game fighters. So in the spirit of "judging things as they are", Why not take a look at a game made with passion, overshadowed by a dominating competive scene. It deserves a fair trial I'd say....... Oh yeah, and this video was awesome, keep up the good work.
I call Melee a glitchy mess, personally, but that doesn't affect my personal opinion of it. I think Brawl would've been a lot more enjoyable if there was a predictable reason for tripping!
Everyone knew this was coming. This was a great game (but this game is absolutely fuckin broken glitch-wise). It could have been better, but for what we got, it was pretty satisfactory. It sadly is only my least favorite of all of them, but to be honest, that’s a fucking high bar. There will always be a worse game out of a series, but that doesn’t mean it can’t have a special place in my heart
My problem with this game is that it undos everything we know about the M&L universe and treat it as an RPG version of the main series' universe and pretend the PM universe is the same thing, but made out of paper. What I'm trying to say is that this game had A LOT of potential with all the fun characters and places both series have to offer. But instead we get the plot and the main villains of a modern 2D Mario game in a RPG, but with paper clones of every character (except Luigi for some reason), a little bit of Starlow and A ****TON OF ******* TOADS (never mind all the different NPCs we used to have, let's get this one sprite, paint it with 4 other colors and populate all the towns in the game with it, and maybe a Yoshi too)!!
I'd just like to casually point out that most of the characters that PM and M&L fans want as a crossover are either dead or have no chance of ever coming back without some Diablos Ex Machina bullshit. So....yeah.
I would have loved if half this game took place inside the Paper Mario storybook, but still this is surprisingly my second favorite Mario and Luigi game
They should have had every M&L boss have a PM boss partner. Think about it! King Bob-omb and Crystal King, King Boo and Doopliss, the Koopalings and the Shadow sirens, and possibly more.
Another thing to add to the bad. Paper Luigi does appear..........in the jukebox menu. He's doing nothing but sitting on the beach, napping, and moving to whatever music is playing. He had a bigger role in Sticker Star, and that role was optional if you found him five times!
Sonic Unleashed. It DESERVES to be analyzed more thoroughly. It's my favourite game from the series and it is either absolutely loved or absolutely hated. A bit of a shame since this was back when SEGA actually tried something brand new for once.
@@slakoththesuperstar2639 I highly disagree. I like to think of color splash as a final flail back towards quality. And, to be fair, it got pretty far! AMAZING character interactions, actual new characters, FAN-FYUCKING-TASTIC music, plus damn good level design! Oh, and the koopalings (squee!).
X8...NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THAT GREAT GAME!... probably a game that shall remain nameless came right before, but X8 was awesome and should've made up for it at least a little! ...the question is if Mr. Minion would do a Blessed or Messed or you yourself would review it QG...It has been a while since your last Q Review. (looking forward to both your future countdowns btw.)
For another episode, my vote goes to Pikmin 3. It was a solid game, and retained a lot of the staple gameplay and puzzle solving, but the introduction of characters who talked outside of the logs, the final area, and the odd progression system (almost like finding suit upgrades in Metroid) left a taste in my mouth that was not bad, but more sour compared to the first two games. One big thing was the loss of the magic of the first game, and the more laid-back time limit but more difficult gameplay of the second.
He used clips from it in one of his last videos and every Nintendo-focused TH-camr kept up with E3 news, so of course he's seen it. He probably preordered it and had it day one.
To be honest, the remake is fine in my opinion but I'd prefer the GBA version just mainly because you can just tell how rushed the remake was since some enemies were missing attacks, theres a lot of weird and unecessary changes I didn't like, and honestly the sound effects feel so underwhelming.
+Callinater ehh... tbh I was kinda harsh on it just because nostalgia so I honestly got a bit too worked up so don't mind my stupid comment... but if you really want to know what I meant, I just really meant that some enemies had some unnecessary attack pattern changes but now my opinion changed a bit so personally the only thing I really don't like about it still is just the SFX of the game. When you compare it to the original, it just sounds so dull.
The thing is they would almost all be blessed unless we are talking about Wario ware snapped which still isn’t offensively bad or particularly awful. It’s just mediocre. All the Wario land and the other Wario ware games(and the odd game Wario world) are all good. I haven’t played master of disguise so I can’t say but that or snapped would make for cool blesssed or messed episodes
Benson Waldrop I don't see why the game gets so much hate! Sure, it's been talked about a lot for the past few years, to this day. But that's no reason for people to hate it! *A little advice from Joshsorcher:* Hate games because they're bad, not because of the fans. I forgot the last part.
The Super Shiny Mega Gengar Ditto. It was the best game of 2015. (In my opinion). It was the game that sparked livestreams, let’s plays, and theories. There’s no reason for this hate.
All I can request of you: Pokemon Ranger... Any one of the games just... PLEASE. WE'RE DESPERATE FOR ANY RANGER CONTENT. Also this is far less likely to happen because nobody's ever heard of this but maybe try the Spectrobes Series???
Here’s my Mario and Luigi game ranking 5. Paper Jam 4. Dream Team 3. Partners in Time 2. SuperStar Saga 1. Bowsers Inside Story How would you rank the games?
A1 Video gamer instead I'll predict the next m & L games not counting remakes M&L 6: M&L Wario and Waluigi mayhem 7: M&L Fawful's return again 8: M&L Paper Jam 2, now inside the paper dimension and 3d world 9: M&L Shroobs revenge 10: M&L And the (what ever kingdom daisy comes from)
7: Superstar Saga 6: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions 5: Paper Jam 4: Dream Team 3: Partners in Time 2: Bowser's Inside Story 1: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr's Journey
This game is essentially DLC for Dream Team. They’re super similar, and Paper Jam is around half the length of Dream Team, so yeah, it’s basically DLC for that game.
The moment he said dimentio and fawful team up I thought of a way that could easily double, or triple the game. There could have been a cutscene or event like half way through the game, that shows fawful finding dimentio and they agree to team up and take over the world so on and so forth. Then there could be a couple events or battles with the 2 as the game goes on. And just like in super paper Mario, after you defeat the final boss, dimentio, who you thought was just some secondary character, could come in and start an entirely new story arc that could EASILY double the game. But these are just my thought so it’s doubtful this would ever happen lol
You raise a number of good points but I have to highlight that yes, this was a crossover with sticker star, hence the lack of Luigi, any interesting characters, a new narrative, simplification of mechanics (level up points and cards) as not only did Alphadream have to appeal to this 'new market', they also had to do it in a way that didn't mess with the 'new' series' lore too much (read no lore so no messing). Similarly, the old enemies are all you see in Sticker Star and, I kinda get what they're going for with mirroring, each enemy has a paper counterpart, which probably works better on paper than in game, it does make many encounters variations on a theme. This mirroring is also probably why they replaced the interesting toads with generic ones, not only because that seems to be the direction they're going, see the remakes, but also because they have no counterpart in the StickerStar-verse. Another thing drawing from the Paper Mario influence rather than the M&L is the last Bowser fight, which isn't good but is the way that series is trending (see Colour Splash). Lastly, whilst we know paper Luigi exists in the StickerStar universe, at least to me, it feels like it would be derivative of partners in time (playing as 4 characters, two Marios and two Luigis) and would lack the streamlined design of the babies, meaning you would have to wrestle with at minimum four battles. Overall, agree with most of the points you made but can see reasons as to why Alphadream chose to (or was made to) exclude them and therefore agree with your conclusion that whilst in places flawed, Mario & Luigi & Paper Mario is a thoroughly enjoyable game. (ALTHOUGH F*** SOME OF THOSE MINIGAMES)
If we’re doing this, I’m pulling out the big guns. Please do Explorers of Sky. It was destroyed by blind critics, so that might put it in the running despite its fan popularity. I really want to hear you talk about my third favorite game of all time.
Now that nintendo appear to listen to new/younger talent (see BoTW and SMO). I think the next M&L/Paper Mario game will be awesome, maybe being as good as BiS or TTYD. Or I could be wrong and we get more of the same. But I think that at least the next M&L game will be different from the norm and take more risks.
Gonzalo Castillo I heard that the people who worked on paper mario only heard after color splash after they made that game, so maybe the next paper mario will be a paper mario game with the original formula, personally I don't mind the new formula I loved color splash and liked playing trough sticker star
Is it wrong that my hopes for M&L 6 are that it has a mechanic that is a halfway point between the mechanics of Partners in Time and Bowser's Inside Story with Wario and Waluigi on the X & Y buttons and that its story focuses on opposites with a mirror/evil version of the Mushroom Kingdom? (Mario and Luigi would likely go through the dark Mushroom Kingdom, fighting evil versions of known allies and even the Dark Mario Bros and Dark Peach. Meanwhile, Wario and Waluigi would then go through the light Mushroom Kingdom, fighting both traditional and new enemies all gathered by an unexpected alliance of both worlds' versions of Bowser.) [What this alliance would have over Paper Jam's Bowser & Bowser alliance is that the Reverse Bowser is actually willing to be the support role to our Bowser in exchange for our Bowser's help in overtaking the Dark Mushroom Kingdom.] {Our Bowser would gain from this by having a Princess Peach who actually shares his moral compass, while Reverse Bowser would finally remove the main evil from his world and finally win the battle against the Dark Mushroom Kingdom. Even if doing that would likely leave the Light Mushroom Kingdom worse off.}
@The Green Dragon 53 I actually remember there being a demo for a fan game called Mario & Luigi: Wariance, where you actually do play parts of the game as Wario and Waluigi... and Popple serves as the pair's Starlow. I kid you not.
Gonzalo Castillo Well if it's on the switch (since 3DS is coming to the end of it's lifespan) then they will almost certainly take new risks because it'll be on a different game engine to DT PJ and SS+BM
partners in time? it's insanely underrated but it's a good game with an amazing soundtrack, probably the best or second best in the series and the shroobs are probably the thougest and most insane challenge mario and luigi have ever faced
Hey fawful I want to say thanks to you, before watching your channel, I always ignored the Mario and Luigi series but thanks to you and your channel I decided to give them a go and I am having a blast with them. So yeah thank you
I really liked this video, your thoughts on it were very interesting even if some of them differed from mine. Personally I didn't like the animation style but it's still nice. Something you should have covered would be it's replay value for future videos of this series. Great video as ever, and while you may have already planned this, but super paper Mario would be perfect for this series.
The first episode is giving me a good first impression! I really like that you are improving your editing. Everything looks organized and clean and fun to watch! Keep up the good work.
The thing about Paper Luigi is that he is on the game as a cameo in the Music Listening feature. He was also confirmed to be a playable character but Nintendo thought that having to press 4 buttons in battle would be too difficult. That's why he isn't in the game as a playable character.
So far this new series is turning out pretty good, but then again it's only the first episode, however this series is showing some good and funny times. Keep going FM, your awesome.
This is definitely the worst Mario & Luigi game in my opinion. It doesn’t even allow you to increase your stats more from level ups like the other games. Also, Paper Luigi appears in the Sound Test, though it is still wasted potential like the entire game.
For my Computer Games Design assignment at college, I made a presentation about this game. However, I also added some easter eggs. On the introductory slide, a bit of text says "Just one question: Where's Paper Luigi?" If you click on Luigi, Paper Luigi spin-jumps up from the bottom of the screen. On another slide, Mario, Luigi and Paper Mario are standing next to the A, B and Y buttons respectively. Clicking a button makes them jump. Bearing in mind this was college work and I still passed despite so many dumb easter eggs.
I personally think the first was the weakest. I love them all, the others had a fun little gimmick to add on to everything imo. This game could've been even better if they gave us more bosses and enemies from the paper Mario series, but I still had a blast playing it, to be honest lol.
I liked this game, if only because of how easy it was to break. I haven't played it in a very long time, so I assume most was patched out, but it was a lot of fun clipping through nearly every "solid" barrier.
Blessed. Fi is better than Navi any day of the week. The final Boss is a lot of fun. The controls work fine in my opinion. Girahim is an amazing character (wish he was a playable character in Smash Bros.) Skyward Sword Zelda is still the cutest version of Zelda in my opinion. This is the only Zelda game where you get to see a sort of romance between Link and Zelda. The bosses are pretty good (aside from Moldarach and Tentalus.). Most underrated Zelda game (other than Tri-Force Heroes and Minish Cap) in my opinion. I really hope this gets ported to the Switch. Still looking forward to the Link's Awakening remake.
I'm just happy to see iconic enemies make RPG debuts. I love me some Ninji. I'm just sad there weren't too many 3d world enemies. Hopefully we'll see Oddessy enemies in the next game
I’d really enjoy seeing you dig into post-trilogy+AJ Ace Attorney titles such as Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice. This show seems very fit for such a topic.
If there's one good thing about this game, it's the final boss battle theme. It feels like Mario and Luigi are fighting 2 giant bowser shaped heartlesses rather than bowser himself. Which makes sense since Yoko Shimomura created the music.
Paper Luigi actually IS in the game. After you beat the game, you'll unlock the music player and you can see him listening to the music while the others kick some ass.
Sorry to tell ya buddy but Fawful's full character arc for the first three games in my opinion we're the best parts for his character development his final chapter being Bowser's inside story since alpha dream has built him up to be the main villain. It wouldn't make sense for Fawful to come back as the main villain and ended it when he had taken action and succeeded in conquering half the mushroom kingdom IN ONE FREAKING DAY! It would make a lot of sense for alpha dream to close the curtains right then and there and kill him off, But if he we're to still be alive don't you think he would make a little cameo like dream team or partners in time and be a merchant or disguised. Edit: Let me rephrase that Fawful had a good run but don't expect him to come back anytime soon due to it not making any sense hence the remakes.
Noice pilot. Can't wait for more. Still holding on for the "Other" Metroid games (for those who didn't see my initial post on the announcement, the games in question being Hunters, Other M, and Federation Force).
Yes! I already love this idea for this series. I want to see another Mario and Luigi RPG game eventually, and I hope Alpha Dream takes more risks. I know they can do it.
This video was pretty solid, I'm optimistic about this series. I'd be interested to hear your take on Mario + Rabbids as a Mario RPG fan. I personally think it's a great game. I'm also curious to see what you think about movies and shows, like you mentioned you'd discuss in the introductory video. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the recent DC movies, particularly BvS and Man of Steel. Also, in-depth analysis of what you think about controversial Paper Mario entries, specifically Super and Color Splash, would be pretty cool
Loganicus Shitpostrium: TH-cam's natural gaming predator.
This comment better be a joke 😠
It's a joke ya dum dum
RoastGames Nah, it's a comment saying Ajit Pai is a god sent.
Of COURSE it's a joke! What makes you think it isn't?
Jamal Davis I REALLY wanted a fawful dimentio teamup
Jamal Davis seeing as he's a big fan of the M and L series I'd like to see fawful's opinion on the new superstar saga remake I'm sure he'd welcome the return of fawful in the series since it's his favorite M and L character/villain
Logan finally talks about this game *_ON HIS OWN CHANNEL_*
@@lapinangelique_ because before this, Logan only talked about it as a guest on other channels. Sorry for the 2 year late reply, I just didn't wanna leave your question hanging...
@@thepredman9lol266lol does anybody remember these two comments?
“No Fawful and Dimention team-up”
Well because if that happened I think the entire universe would be in very severe danger of implosion.
I'd have loved to see more of Paper Luigi in the game other than on the soundtrack screen. I personally was hoping for a Paper Mr. L and Papercraft Brobot throwback too.
Everyone had their hopes for this game, and although it was a fun adventure, the turnout is vastly underwhelming compared to the potential.
I think that was partially due to clash of ideas/opinions between developers or something...
I mean he should've just been the main companion instead of Starlow.
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Hell I'd just like to see a paper luigi game instead of this trainwreck
Please cover Super Mario Sunshine in this series. I'd love to see your take.
DuoReview I didn't know I needed this until now.
I also REALLY want to hear his thoughts on this game. I want to know if I like it only because of nostalgia, or if maybe it really is as good as I think it is.
He won't mate. This series is only for medias with divided opinions.
Last I checked, Mario Sunshine is heavily loved.
Clok-Roo, The Primordial "Mario Sunshine is heavily loved."
If you check out the recent SGB playthrough of it I think you'll find the opposite.
Never heard of them.
I mean the plot does make it out to be another Bowser kidnaps peach but thats only for like half the story wheres peach in the other half? nowhere except in her castle Bowser is now on a rampage destroying the mushroom kingdom and flattening it threatening both Mario's world and Paper Mario's
My recomendation? Super Smash Bros. Brawl. If Paper Jam is overshadowed by its fellow games, than Brawl is fucking eclipsed by its party game fighters. So in the spirit of "judging things as they are", Why not take a look at a game made with passion, overshadowed by a dominating competive scene. It deserves a fair trial I'd say.......
Oh yeah, and this video was awesome, keep up the good work.
I call Melee a glitchy mess, personally, but that doesn't affect my personal opinion of it. I think Brawl would've been a lot more enjoyable if there was a predictable reason for tripping!
Chaos89P fot all the hours I played brawl, I never tripped, I only knew about tripping a week ago because I saw a video wheŕ it happenend
Darkrai Dimentio Yes, all the yes.
Brawl has subspace. Nothing else to say.
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Everyone knew this was coming. This was a great game (but this game is absolutely fuckin broken glitch-wise). It could have been better, but for what we got, it was pretty satisfactory. It sadly is only my least favorite of all of them, but to be honest, that’s a fucking high bar. There will always be a worse game out of a series, but that doesn’t mean it can’t have a special place in my heart
It's so broken, I discovered my own out-of-bounds glitch.
I was just about to say almost the exact same thing
My problem with this game is that it undos everything we know about the M&L universe and treat it as an RPG version of the main series' universe and pretend the PM universe is the same thing, but made out of paper.
What I'm trying to say is that this game had A LOT of potential with all the fun characters and places both series have to offer. But instead we get the plot and the main villains of a modern 2D Mario game in a RPG, but with paper clones of every character (except Luigi for some reason), a little bit of Starlow and A ****TON OF ******* TOADS (never mind all the different NPCs we used to have, let's get this one sprite, paint it with 4 other colors and populate all the towns in the game with it, and maybe a Yoshi too)!!
I'd just like to casually point out that most of the characters that PM and M&L fans want as a crossover are either dead or have no chance of ever coming back without some Diablos Ex Machina bullshit. So....yeah.
Oh, this was not a great game, it's okay at best, at least that's what I think.
Sonic Unleashed comes to mind
SF56tube mario 3d world comes to my mind
I thought it was pretty ok
Though its reviews were very mixed
SF56tube wii version or ps3/Xbox version?
yes
I would have loved if half this game took place inside the Paper Mario storybook, but still this is surprisingly my second favorite Mario and Luigi game
Wat?
It's my third favorite. Second is partners in time. First is bowser's inside story. But I honestly loved all of them, lol.
I also was hoping we would have the ability to go back and forth between the paper world and the real world
Justin Powers
WHAT THE FUCK! WHY!?
Basically they ended up creating a complicated story because of that. So they decided to threw it out and created a simple story instead.
They should have had every M&L boss have a PM boss partner. Think about it! King Bob-omb and Crystal King, King Boo and Doopliss, the Koopalings and the Shadow sirens, and possibly more.
But does that mean vivian has to fight mario?
You realize the shadow sirens wouldn't work for Bowser
Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nice review.
No one replied after 2 years damn I'm sorry mayro
Lol
Damn I didn’t know you watched fawful
@@the_big_george and why would anyone need to reply in the first place. a simple statement doesn’t need an unnecessary comment.
Paper Mario collar splash
Huh
Neat
That's a nice Dorkly reference you have there. It would be a shame if someone..
Stole it. 👀
Dank Matter Dorkly fan alert! Oh wait, I'm a Dorkly fan... Huh, crap
You're neat. >:|
Dank Matter Im a big Dorkly fan as well but its so cool to find these references.... everywhere
Your the *neat* one.
*huh* funny how that turned out
Dank Matter DORKLY REFERENCE
Yes
*Just take all of my Yes*
Pixel yes
Yes
Another thing to add to the bad. Paper Luigi does appear..........in the jukebox menu. He's doing nothing but sitting on the beach, napping, and moving to whatever music is playing. He had a bigger role in Sticker Star, and that role was optional if you found him five times!
Sonic Unleashed. It DESERVES to be analyzed more thoroughly. It's my favourite game from the series and it is either absolutely loved or absolutely hated. A bit of a shame since this was back when SEGA actually tried something brand new for once.
Blessed or messed:
The Wii U
Fawful's Galaxy blessed in my opinion
Fawful's Galaxy blessed the Wii U is great screw all of you that think the Wii U is bad
Blessed. Dont even know why are you asking that on the first place.
Blessed: The Wii U had awesome games, free online, and a decent virtual console.
Messed: Nintendo had practically no idea how to market this thing.
MESSED
Technically that's the 3D World (and probably 3D Land) Bullies. Still gotta love it though
Almost two years late?!
Or was it three years...
You should consider doing Color Splash. I know it’s another Paper Mario game, but it’s one of the games I really like that other people don’t.
We already know it's getting a Messed. Logan stated he didn't like Color Splash much.
I freaking LOVE Color splash it’s amazing! I’ll even go as far as saying it’s the second best game ever made right behind bowser’s inside story
ShycoWar WHAT?! HOW?!?!?!
Idk, Color splash is hd sticker star. Lost potential
@@slakoththesuperstar2639 I highly disagree. I like to think of color splash as a final flail back towards quality. And, to be fair, it got pretty far! AMAZING character interactions, actual new characters, FAN-FYUCKING-TASTIC music, plus damn good level design! Oh, and the koopalings (squee!).
Which Mega Man game would you say deserves the look-over most?
Hmm. Probably 8 or X5.
Fawful's Minion I would personally say that Megaman 7 deserves a look over more than 8, in my honest opinion.
Choosing ONE Megaman game to review is like choosing your favorite child, Star Wars movie, and snack ALL AT ONCE.
X8...NO ONE TALKS ABOUT THAT GREAT GAME!... probably a game that shall remain nameless came right before, but X8 was awesome and should've made up for it at least a little! ...the question is if Mr. Minion would do a Blessed or Messed or you yourself would review it QG...It has been a while since your last Q Review. (looking forward to both your future countdowns btw.)
I’d say either X6 or X8.
For another episode, my vote goes to Pikmin 3. It was a solid game, and retained a lot of the staple gameplay and puzzle solving, but the introduction of characters who talked outside of the logs, the final area, and the odd progression system (almost like finding suit upgrades in Metroid) left a taste in my mouth that was not bad, but more sour compared to the first two games. One big thing was the loss of the magic of the first game, and the more laid-back time limit but more difficult gameplay of the second.
staple gameplay?
What was the problem of the final area?
About time Fawful have you sawed the Remastered of Superstar Saga?
Armando Peña De Jesus im sure he has
Seen
He used clips from it in one of his last videos and every Nintendo-focused TH-camr kept up with E3 news, so of course he's seen it. He probably preordered it and had it day one.
Austin Beale you sure?
Depends.
Have you seen your grammar?
*PLEASE DO BLESSED OR MESSED "MARIO AND LUIGI SUPERSTAR SAGA 3DS REMAKE"*
thePredman#9 lol I thought it was amazing, and the Bowser’s Minions side game was addictive as all hell.
To be honest, the remake is fine in my opinion but I'd prefer the GBA version just mainly because you can just tell how rushed the remake was since some enemies were missing attacks, theres a lot of weird and unecessary changes I didn't like, and honestly the sound effects feel so underwhelming.
purseit/Marioplaysgames missing attacks? Don’t know what you’re talking about
+Callinater ehh... tbh I was kinda harsh on it just because nostalgia so I honestly got a bit too worked up so don't mind my stupid comment... but if you really want to know what I meant, I just really meant that some enemies had some unnecessary attack pattern changes but now my opinion changed a bit so personally the only thing I really don't like about it still is just the SFX of the game. When you compare it to the original, it just sounds so dull.
Any Wario game. Just, ANY of them. I CRAVE IT.
Wario world
The thing is they would almost all be blessed unless we are talking about Wario ware snapped which still isn’t offensively bad or particularly awful. It’s just mediocre. All the Wario land and the other Wario ware games(and the odd game Wario world) are all good. I haven’t played master of disguise so I can’t say but that or snapped would make for cool blesssed or messed episodes
Maybe make a video like this about ARMS? I've seen either very positive or very negative reviews and opinions about it.
EverythingIncorporated that would be a good video
That won’t really work because there’s nothing that comes before it. So you have no predecessor to compare to.
People are probably gonna want my head mounted on their wall for this:
Undertale.
Benson Waldrop I don't see why the game gets so much hate! Sure, it's been talked about a lot for the past few years, to this day. But that's no reason for people to hate it!
*A little advice from Joshsorcher:* Hate games because they're bad, not because of the fans.
I forgot the last part.
I never played the game before. I just like the music, lol.
DO IT!
undertale is trash
The Super Shiny Mega Gengar Ditto. It was the best game of 2015. (In my opinion). It was the game that sparked livestreams, let’s plays, and theories. There’s no reason for this hate.
All I can request of you: Pokemon Ranger... Any one of the games just... PLEASE. WE'RE DESPERATE FOR ANY RANGER CONTENT.
Also this is far less likely to happen because nobody's ever heard of this but maybe try the Spectrobes Series???
Taylor Langlois weren’t there two spectrobes games on DS and one on the Wii?
Yeah.... I know, like I said it's not gonna happen
POKEMON RANGER SHADOWS OF ALMIA IS THE BEST.
Guardian Signs...Oh that game was good or bad in a few places, playing it makes me wish they would still make Pokemon Ranger games again. :(
...and Conquest...
*Please Logan nobody talks about it!*
Here’s my Mario and Luigi game ranking
5. Paper Jam
4. Dream Team
3. Partners in Time
2. SuperStar Saga
1. Bowsers Inside Story
How would you rank the games?
I sexually identify as a Toaster™
Same
A1 Video gamer instead I'll predict the next m & L games not counting remakes
M&L 6: M&L Wario and Waluigi mayhem
7: M&L Fawful's return again
8: M&L Paper Jam 2, now inside the paper dimension and 3d world
9: M&L Shroobs revenge
10: M&L And the (what ever kingdom daisy comes from)
5. Partners In Time
4. Paper Jam
3.Superstar Saga
2. Dream Team
1. Bowsers Inside Story
(Still Love All Of The Doe)
7: Superstar Saga
6: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
5: Paper Jam
4: Dream Team
3: Partners in Time
2: Bowser's Inside Story
1: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr's Journey
5:Partners in Time
4:Superstar Saga
3:Paper Jam
2:Dream Team
1:Bowser's Inside Story
This game is essentially DLC for Dream Team. They’re super similar, and Paper Jam is around half the length of Dream Team, so yeah, it’s basically DLC for that game.
The moment he said dimentio and fawful team up I thought of a way that could easily double, or triple the game. There could have been a cutscene or event like half way through the game, that shows fawful finding dimentio and they agree to team up and take over the world so on and so forth. Then there could be a couple events or battles with the 2 as the game goes on. And just like in super paper Mario, after you defeat the final boss, dimentio, who you thought was just some secondary character, could come in and start an entirely new story arc that could EASILY double the game. But these are just my thought so it’s doubtful this would ever happen lol
Finish my Kirby fan art
NOPE
Fawful uploaded!
Since you did Paper Jam, you should do Color Splash now
You raise a number of good points but I have to highlight that yes, this was a crossover with sticker star, hence the lack of Luigi, any interesting characters, a new narrative, simplification of mechanics (level up points and cards) as not only did Alphadream have to appeal to this 'new market', they also had to do it in a way that didn't mess with the 'new' series' lore too much (read no lore so no messing). Similarly, the old enemies are all you see in Sticker Star and, I kinda get what they're going for with mirroring, each enemy has a paper counterpart, which probably works better on paper than in game, it does make many encounters variations on a theme. This mirroring is also probably why they replaced the interesting toads with generic ones, not only because that seems to be the direction they're going, see the remakes, but also because they have no counterpart in the StickerStar-verse. Another thing drawing from the Paper Mario influence rather than the M&L is the last Bowser fight, which isn't good but is the way that series is trending (see Colour Splash). Lastly, whilst we know paper Luigi exists in the StickerStar universe, at least to me, it feels like it would be derivative of partners in time (playing as 4 characters, two Marios and two Luigis) and would lack the streamlined design of the babies, meaning you would have to wrestle with at minimum four battles.
Overall, agree with most of the points you made but can see reasons as to why Alphadream chose to (or was made to) exclude them and therefore agree with your conclusion that whilst in places flawed, Mario & Luigi & Paper Mario is a thoroughly enjoyable game. (ALTHOUGH F*** SOME OF THOSE MINIGAMES)
This is actually my 3rd favorite Mario and Luigi RPG.
Mario & Luigi & Sonic & Paper Mario *& Knuckles*
Edit: This joke isn't funny
Mario & Luigi + Knuckles: Knuckles' Knuckles 3 & Knuckles featuring Knuckles.
BreadSlice95 Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series. (sorry, i had to xD)
Featuring Knuckles from the Knuckles May Chuckle series
New funky mode!
Deluxe
Can you do Sonic Forces next?
Edgar castro messed. Totally messed
Edgar castro you mean trash?
Paper Luigi was supposed to be in the game at one point, but it was too hard to control everyone in battles and in the field, so he was removed
If we’re doing this, I’m pulling out the big guns. Please do Explorers of Sky. It was destroyed by blind critics, so that might put it in the running despite its fan popularity. I really want to hear you talk about my third favorite game of all time.
Explorers of Sky? Never heard of it
GameMaster WLC It's one of the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games.
What about Gates to Infinity???
GameMaster WLC Its only the Pokemon game with the best (debatable) story.
I got a game for you to do:
Sonic Forces
(While there's more hate then love I still see tons of arguments about this game.
Now that nintendo appear to listen to new/younger talent (see BoTW and SMO). I think the next M&L/Paper Mario game will be awesome, maybe being as good as BiS or TTYD.
Or I could be wrong and we get more of the same. But I think that at least the next M&L game will be different from the norm and take more risks.
Gonzalo Castillo I heard that the people who worked on paper mario only heard after color splash after they made that game, so maybe the next paper mario will be a paper mario game with the original formula, personally I don't mind the new formula I loved color splash and liked playing trough sticker star
Is it wrong that my hopes for M&L 6 are that it has a mechanic that is a halfway point between the mechanics of Partners in Time and Bowser's Inside Story with Wario and Waluigi on the X & Y buttons and that its story focuses on opposites with a mirror/evil version of the Mushroom Kingdom?
(Mario and Luigi would likely go through the dark Mushroom Kingdom, fighting evil versions of known allies and even the Dark Mario Bros and Dark Peach. Meanwhile, Wario and Waluigi would then go through the light Mushroom Kingdom, fighting both traditional and new enemies all gathered by an unexpected alliance of both worlds' versions of Bowser.) [What this alliance would have over Paper Jam's Bowser & Bowser alliance is that the Reverse Bowser is actually willing to be the support role to our Bowser in exchange for our Bowser's help in overtaking the Dark Mushroom Kingdom.] {Our Bowser would gain from this by having a Princess Peach who actually shares his moral compass, while Reverse Bowser would finally remove the main evil from his world and finally win the battle against the Dark Mushroom Kingdom. Even if doing that would likely leave the Light Mushroom Kingdom worse off.}
@The Green Dragon 53
I actually remember there being a demo for a fan game called Mario & Luigi: Wariance, where you actually do play parts of the game as Wario and Waluigi... and Popple serves as the pair's Starlow. I kid you not.
Gonzalo Castillo Well if it's on the switch (since 3DS is coming to the end of it's lifespan) then they will almost certainly take new risks because it'll be on a different game engine to DT PJ and SS+BM
@GeekachuIChooseYou not to mention the side campaigns have actual character development.
I love this new series! I really enjoy hearing your unique humor in a different type of content than just top 10s.
partners in time? it's insanely underrated but it's a good game with an amazing soundtrack, probably the best or second best in the series and the shroobs are probably the thougest and most insane challenge mario and luigi have ever faced
Cover Paper Mario Color Splash
This was awesome. How about blessed or messed with Sonic forces?
Fantastic video Logan! I think I'm going to thoroughly enjoy this series!
Hey fawful I want to say thanks to you, before watching your channel, I always ignored the Mario and Luigi series but thanks to you and your channel I decided to give them a go and I am having a blast with them. So yeah thank you
I really liked this video, your thoughts on it were very interesting even if some of them differed from mine. Personally I didn't like the animation style but it's still nice. Something you should have covered would be it's replay value for future videos of this series. Great video as ever, and while you may have already planned this, but super paper Mario would be perfect for this series.
DON’T...............
BLINK
Blink and you’re dead
Bowser and Paper Bowser were even more evil than expected.
This video is AWESOME! Keep it up! The Blessed or Messed series went off with a bang and BOY was it a good one!
Blessed or Messed: Sonic Unleashed?
Mega Man 8
That would actually be good considering that MM8 is seen as trash and that MM11 is coming out soon
7 was a bit more divisive than 8, tho. 7 was controversial, and 8 was almost unanimously considered garbage.
XZeroStone What, 7 is my favorite! But every review of 8 I've seen says it's decent.
I love 7 too. It's just very controversial. And a LOT of people hated 8.
the plot:
go to any NSMB game -> plot
ctrl+c
Paper Jam -> plot
ctrl+v
and that's it.
The first episode is giving me a good first impression! I really like that you are improving your editing. Everything looks organized and clean and fun to watch! Keep up the good work.
Ori and the Blind Forest please, no one talks about that game.
But that game is universly loved. Isn't the point of blessed or messed to look at decisive game?
Darkrai Dimentio
True, I guess I just want him to make a video about it lol
Jack Landry
Same goes for Okami
We haven’t seen you talk about Kirby since before Planet Robobot came out, anything you have say about? (Other than Mirror’s buff?)
Another fanservise potential would have been seeing Mr.L once more since there were no paper luigi. YOU HAD THE BEST CHANCE NINTENDO
He protecc
He attacc
But he also
Tells opinions and facc
Sonic Unleashed would be really interesting to see
Can we please get a new Thousand Year Door style Paper Mario game.
Hell, make it Luigi’s adventure in the Waffle Kingdom!
*WAFFLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
The thing about Paper Luigi is that he is on the game as a cameo in the Music Listening feature. He was also confirmed to be a playable character but Nintendo thought that having to press 4 buttons in battle would be too difficult. That's why he isn't in the game as a playable character.
So far this new series is turning out pretty good, but then again it's only the first episode, however this series is showing some good and funny times. Keep going FM, your awesome.
I heard that the reason Paper Luigi isn’t playable is because they felt that it would make battles too complicated.
...Partners in Time, though.
But it's simple,
A = Mario
B = Luigi
Y = Paper Mario
X = Paper Luigi
SuperMarioCraft To be fair, they'd have to use a different button for dashing.
@@ShycoWar the babies were an extension of the Bros in 4 person battle, while the paper Bros are separate characters
This is definitely the worst Mario & Luigi game in my opinion. It doesn’t even allow you to increase your stats more from level ups like the other games. Also, Paper Luigi appears in the Sound Test, though it is still wasted potential like the entire game.
wait what the *goomba*
For my Computer Games Design assignment at college, I made a presentation about this game. However, I also added some easter eggs. On the introductory slide, a bit of text says "Just one question: Where's Paper Luigi?"
If you click on Luigi, Paper Luigi spin-jumps up from the bottom of the screen.
On another slide, Mario, Luigi and Paper Mario are standing next to the A, B and Y buttons respectively. Clicking a button makes them jump.
Bearing in mind this was college work and I still passed despite so many dumb easter eggs.
Paper Luigi was going to be playable. but he was cut. it does suck that he was yet again a silent cameo like he was in Sticker Star.
I personally think the first was the weakest. I love them all, the others had a fun little gimmick to add on to everything imo.
This game could've been even better if they gave us more bosses and enemies from the paper Mario series, but I still had a blast playing it, to be honest lol.
I feel like Nintendo hates paper Luigi. We need a paper Luigi game in the style of ttyd!!
I liked this game, if only because of how easy it was to break. I haven't played it in a very long time, so I assume most was patched out, but it was a lot of fun clipping through nearly every "solid" barrier.
i really like the neat little animations in this video, it adds a layer of polish
Sonic adventure 1 or pokémon gen 1
Skyward Sword?
Messed
Blessed. Fi is better than Navi any day of the week. The final Boss is a lot of fun. The controls work fine in my opinion. Girahim is an amazing character (wish he was a playable character in Smash Bros.) Skyward Sword Zelda is still the cutest version of Zelda in my opinion. This is the only Zelda game where you get to see a sort of romance between Link and Zelda. The bosses are pretty good (aside from Moldarach and Tentalus.). Most underrated Zelda game (other than Tri-Force Heroes and Minish Cap) in my opinion. I really hope this gets ported to the Switch. Still looking forward to the Link's Awakening remake.
This is pretty cool. I like that you actually approached it from a non-biased standpoint. Can't wait for Colosseum/XD. ^_^
I mean, Paper Luigi is there...in the jukebox.
I don't think Dimentio would team with fawful. Plus, they're dead
Like, their souls are dead (Fawful's at least)
I think he meant Paper Fawful and 3d Dimentio
The Green Dragon 53 that's stupid
What I've been saying since this game was announced, you've now said as well.
What about undertale
you mean the game that is universally loved? yeah that would fit the series....
Nice one dude, I like this format of video! Keep it up!
Great video Buddy X3 I can’t wait to see more. Also I haven’t got to play this game yet so now I have an idea of what I’m getting into.
"It's been 4 games worth of years in development, hopefully it'll have been worth the wait." -Gabe N Yamauchi
That was pretty good for your first "Blessed Or Messed" episode. Thumbs up Mr.Minion! :)
I know that the video is cool, but HOLY SHIT THAT FAWFUL SPRITE ANIMATION!!! I LOVE IT SO MUCH! Please do this more often in later videos!!!
Great start to a cool series!
Wooooo I've been waiting for so long and now it's here 😁 thanks fawful
From countdowns to Colosseum final judgement, I approve this change of pace.
I'm just glad you still enjoy it, I enjoy Paper Jam. And I hope you do too, being a Mario and Luigi Fanatic and all.
I'm just happy to see iconic enemies make RPG debuts. I love me some Ninji. I'm just sad there weren't too many 3d world enemies. Hopefully we'll see Oddessy enemies in the next game
I’d really enjoy seeing you dig into post-trilogy+AJ Ace Attorney titles such as Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice. This show seems very fit for such a topic.
My favorite thing beside the bosses and story is the gear. So many possibilities!
If there's one good thing about this game, it's the final boss battle theme. It feels like Mario and Luigi are fighting 2 giant bowser shaped heartlesses rather than bowser himself. Which makes sense since Yoko Shimomura created the music.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOREVER
Paper Luigi actually IS in the game. After you beat the game, you'll unlock the music player and you can see him listening to the music while the others kick some ass.
Sorry to tell ya buddy but Fawful's full character arc for the first three games in my opinion we're the best parts for his character development his final chapter being Bowser's inside story since alpha dream has built him up to be the main villain. It wouldn't make sense for Fawful to come back as the main villain and ended it when he had taken action and succeeded in conquering half the mushroom kingdom IN ONE FREAKING DAY! It would make a lot of sense for alpha dream to close the curtains right then and there and kill him off, But if he we're to still be alive don't you think he would make a little cameo like dream team or partners in time and be a merchant or disguised. Edit: Let me rephrase that Fawful had a good run but don't expect him to come back anytime soon due to it not making any sense hence the remakes.
The same goes for dimentio It just wouldn't make any sense to bring them back after accomplishing their goals
Paper Luigi is ther when you open the music tracks
Noice pilot. Can't wait for more.
Still holding on for the "Other" Metroid games (for those who didn't see my initial post on the announcement, the games in question being Hunters, Other M, and Federation Force).
yooooo i really like this video format! Please make more! :D
Excited for the new series! Love the idea.
Yes! I already love this idea for this series. I want to see another Mario and Luigi RPG game eventually, and I hope Alpha Dream takes more risks. I know they can do it.
"The worst Mario & Luigi title is still a great game."
LOL exactly my thoughts
This is the Sonic Forces of Mario and Luigi.
This video was pretty solid, I'm optimistic about this series.
I'd be interested to hear your take on Mario + Rabbids as a Mario RPG fan. I personally think it's a great game.
I'm also curious to see what you think about movies and shows, like you mentioned you'd discuss in the introductory video.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the recent DC movies, particularly BvS and Man of Steel.
Also, in-depth analysis of what you think about controversial Paper Mario entries, specifically Super and Color Splash, would be pretty cool
Love the series can't wait to see more!
I love this new series all ready ;)