So this video is where I disappeared to for the past month. I know it's easy to hate on a creator for trying new things, but my moods and drive to make videos drops massively when I can't actually BE CREATIVE. So please, just give it a chance, much love! Also, I know it’s cringe to hear, but if you have the ability to share this video anywhere, be that Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, anywhere at all, it would really help this video get out there, thanks :)
I remember actually playing this game when it was a beta... like almost 20 years ago! I can't wait to see if you included ALL the crazy stuff from this game LOL
Postal is a satire about how anyone can just snap and go on a murder spree. I actually love how Running With Scissors updates their older games to this day. Most game developers don’t do that for newer computers.
If anything that's what makes them controversial. Integrity, listening to their fans, passion, just mindless fun games no competitive cut throat leagues, no over saturated marketing or gimmicks, no micro transactions garbage. If they were vocal about it? Oh you can bet they'd be bitched about more
Just wanted to say, I believe that Postal 1's ending was meant to imply that he never actually killed anyone, and just hallucinated the whole thing during a mental breakdown. Hence why there's no evidence at the end of the game that he killed people.
Really true. Because if he actually murdered like whole population of 10-15 counties and places and then elementary school, he wouldn't be trown in the mental asylum. He would end up on eletric chair.
I met the main guy behind the studio at a gaming convention. Vince Desi. I was eating a whole ass pizza lunch with a friend, and he sat down at our table. Neither of us knew who he was, we asked and he explained. He then asked to only have the pizza crust and not the pizza itself. After that weird request we helped at his booth and he gave us both jobs. Cool guy
Fun Fact: when the US Supreme Court was deciding a case on whether sales of violent video games to minors should be banned in California, Justices Kagan and Breyer played Postal 2 as an example of a violent, offensive game. Breyer was disgusted, but Kagan was having fun with it, and the court ruled 7-2 against banning violent video game sales to minors, I believe citing the fact that it should be up to the parents to decide what kind of things their children should be exposed to, and that the children would just get adults to buy the games for them anyway.
It’s stupid how parents blame a company and not themselves for a child safety kind of thing. Like their the damn guardian if they don’t want their child to see or play something then keep tabs on them. Like the fact that they had to make TH-cam Kids a thing and the age restrictions while parents still blaming it on them is fucking baffling to me.
@@ImJugg Not just that, but kids even look for this stuff nonchalantly sometimes when they hear about it in school, then they simply spread that too and it's like a cycle of info that just grows because kids these days are earlier on desensitized to this type of stuff.
I was doing a pacifist run when I tried to get Gary's autograph, but for some reason someone waiting in line aggro'd Gary so everyone pulled out shotguns(Hestonworld moment) and started killing each other. After Gary massacred everyone else around him, he got stuck kicking a corpse and would never go back to his desk to let me actually finish the task. I tried making friends with him by kicking the same cadaver but I guess I got boot dirt on his suit because he immediately started lobbing grenades at me. Cut to me trying to lead Gary Coleman around the mall while he ripped me apart with an assault rifle, hoping he'd accidentally shoot someone else and THEY would kill him. After 20 minutes of mass slaughter, a few cops FINALLY managed to kill Gary and I could take his autograph from his tiny, headless corpse. Modern gaming needs more moments like this.
You know, I'm fairly certain (at least in Postal 2 Complete) there's two Gary Coleman autobiographies lying around in a corridor somewhere in the mall, so if you got screwed over like that in a pacifist run you could still get the autobiographies without problem.
i have a save file on thursday which hasn't killed a single soul every time i pick up a gun i drop it in favour of the taser and lots (and i mean lots) of crack
FunFact: Uwe Boll once said in an interview that he never was a gamer himself and that he couldnt care less about games, he just knew he could make a shit load of money with game to movie adaptations. brutally honest man!
Honestly, the fact that the first game ends with him collapsing in a pile of pain upon the discovery that he cannot kill children is way more clever than basically any other game of this type
@@jayhosh8126 waaaah, i killet sum children in a game, waaah, i live in a shithole where guns are legal and you can actually recreate that, fuck outta here man, art should have the freedom to depict whatever the fuck they want, there is a intro warning and an age rating for a reason.
One weird fact about Postal 1 - if I remember correctly, the voice we hear in game IS NOT the voice of the Postal Dude (protagonist), but the voice of a demon living inside his head. The little hint about it is hidden in the game files. This fact makes the game even more disturbing.
@@starchilde8698 The Postal Dude shows signs of schizophrenia though, altered behaviour, voices in his head, severe paranoia, psychosis. The plot of the first game centers around the fact that The Dude thinks his entire neighborhood is out to get him. Its not a positive portrayal definitely, most schizophreniacs aren't violent at all.
Despite Postal 2 being a very silly and satirical game, it's also one of the best examples of how to make exploration meaningful and rewarding. There are so many cool secrets and hidden caches on every single map.
The core gameplay is pretty satisfying so I wondered why I found apocalypse weekend and eternal damnation so boring, and it's because postal 2's world is what ties the entire game together. It's a small open world but every place has a purpose and is loaded with details and secrets
Yeah, when I got bored of killing everyone or doing the chores, I would look around to find something and it never disappoints, it's full of places and items to find if you're curious enough
100% agree. Beaten it two weeks ago and exploration of the world was indeed surprisingly satisfying. Really enjoyed first 5 game days and was irritated by the last 2.
It's genuinely sad to see what postal 3 could have been. The art style is so appealing and the starting development seemed really promising if it wasn't for the poor financial aspects, budgeting issues and layoffs
Eh I don’t think so while I think it could’ve been a lot better if that hadn’t happened just remember the same people who made postal 3 also made postal corkscrew rules which I consider just a Russian bootleg rather than an actual game
Postal guy's inability to harm the elementary schoolers is a really cool artistic touch and it's even cooler that it's left ambiguous. Maybe he couldn't bring himself to harm kids despite plotting out his fantasy of doing so. Maybe he was so disgusted with his actions at that point that he was subconsciously rejecting the reality of what he was doing. Maybe the whole game was just one big delusion.
Might've also just been to prevent the game from getting an AO rating, which would've meant most stores would've refused to even put the game on their shelves. I'd say that an AO for ultraviolence was unheard of at the time, but hey, Hatred managed to pull it off.
@@DJstarrfish just as well because I'm I'm the guy that can't kill the little sisters in BioShock so there's that but I can cause mayhem and postal but all those people were sinners you know except I mean Coleman and the hookers and the haji's it was okay to just blast away with your but I never got that far. To the schoolyard anyway I made it to I do remember the Christmas tree all those people need was fun to just to wipe out who else I don't remember anybody that I felt guilty about in postal as far as I got anyway so it's just as well I never made it to the schoolyard or they didn't allow like I said I couldn't I couldn't kill the little sisters in BioShock. so I'm that guy
The way I got into Postal was that one day, as a middleschooler, I randomly decided to rummage through my father's mysterious plastic bag of random cds, and one of them just had "postal 2" written on it with a sharpe. I put it in, and the rest was magic.
I find it weird that the reason i got into the series was around the time my little pony was still relevant and in my middle school days I watched brony channels. One such channel actually played postal 2 and apocalypse weeked
@@cannedbeverage7687 You can always burn something to a CD, but a lot of games are pretty big nowadays so good luck if you wanna do that with anything newer.
no one's mentioning it, but according to the developers, Postal 1's ending was meant to be something so unimaginably evil that not even postal dude could do it. that unfortunately didn't apply any more when the redux was released.
Yeah, they said something to the effect of "we wanted to make something so evil that nobody could possibly think of doing, but now the sad truth is that it's our reality."
One of my favorite things about the bank errand in Postal 2 is that, during one playthrough, I did exactly as the robbers said. I stood still and didn't move. Everyone got shot *except* me, and I was able to just casually walk out the front doors unharmed.
i remember a friend saying that I should play Portal. My 12 year-old self googled it and got a free version online. Although, being a 12 year old, I did not notice that the R was an S, and I was scarred for life
Truly the only way to tell the moral and ethical quality of a given thing would be to place it in one’s rectal cavity. Hitler has never been up my ass so how would I know if he was a cool dude or not
I think that's true. Video games doesn't make you evil. I grew up playing counter strike and GTA. Did playing the game want me to shoot the cops? No. Those are just excuse of some parents so their kids won't play as much.
I remember playing Postal 2 and going to the church to confess my sins. I was waiting at the end of the long line and someone cut me and I couldn’t hop in front of him so I had to accept it. Combined with the long line and someone cutting me I thought after like literal 7 minutes of waiting “F**k this.” and pulled out my M16 and just pulled the trigger thinking “Ehh… it just another sin to confess to.” Sometimes it really is easy to tip you over in that game.
I read this and thought you were talking about in real life and were about to say how you told your church pastor that you played Postal 2 all week lmao
That's the beauty of postal 2, it constantly sends you into infuriating situations where even the most calm and collected people think; "Man, this fucken sucks, why can't we just brute force this?" and it's up to you and your will to hold that urge back. It teases you with the oppertunities to do it over and over, but you have the choice to not give in.
The creators had this interesting quote about why they changed the first postal’s ending in postal redux: “The whole idea of the original ending no longer applies anyway - it was supposed to depict something that, at the time, would have been completely unthinkable, and out of touch with reality. Tragically the sad truth is that, in today's world, it is no longer an unthinkable nightmare but a very depressing reality. “
@@wingsoficarus1139 there isn’t a school shooting every week. Schools are actually safer than they’ve ever been in the past. If you look at school shooting charts from the 90s up to present day you’ll see that we’ve had a huge down trend in school shootings over the years. The only reason why it feels like they happen more often is because specific parts of politics want to lead you to believe that to be the case, but the numbers are out there and they don’t lie.
@@Kryptonicx7x This year so far, there have been 27 school shootings in the past 7 months. Thats almost 1 per week as there are about 30 weeks in 7 months. Also, sure the schools themselves are implementing more countermeasures and overall are more safe however, that doesn't disclose the fact that the amount of mass shootings at schools have increased in the past couple of years. Of course, its not as bad as the 35 incidents that took place between 1993 and 1994(and about 30 the year before that) however, looking at the fact that we already have 27 shootings 7 months in the year, we aren't looking so great. Edit: I checked back to see how many shootings as of November 2nd and... there are 40 involving injuries/deaths.
In postal 4, there was a bug that you couldn't get the pacifist ending in any way, besides cheating. Scissors fixed this last week or so and my friend, who tried to get every pacifist ending that is possible in the postal games, immediately got on postal 4 and was the FIRST to get the achievement without cheating She even filmed it
That new ending with the funeral to me seems to represent the results of the player's actions. Having taken everyone out, there is none left to attend the funeral. Having noted and realized his actions, the character then realizes what he has done after coming back to his sense and then proceeding to have a severe mental breakdown.
The school ending is actually really powerful I didn't know that was a thing, it's creepy and weird especially given the graphic style and the way the kids are all faceless and look the same. I get why they removed it but the funeral ending doesn't quite have the same level of "wtf" as the original.
I heard the reason why they changed the ending of Postal 1 was because Postal 1 was made before Columbine, before there were school shootings in the United States, originally the ending was supposed to be something so outrageously shocking and horrific that would be unthinkable. Since reality ended up devolving down to Postal 1's level, by the remake they wanted to change as the message was gone. There are real world monsters who are far more threatening than the Postal Dude.
If I remember right, the only reason why they removed the school shooting ending was because it'd not be shocking anymore... which makes not the new ending but the change itself really disturbing
@@boringveil4783 i saw someone say that it wasnt cause it wouldnt be shocking that original ending was made that way because it was meant to be an unimaginable act of violence, that even our protagonist couldnt bring themselves to do and nobody else could do either (probably to solidify that alot of the game is probably not actually happening but all in his mind and a result of the breakdown he had) but was then unfortunately changed because that awful event(s) became reality :( school shootings weren’t something that really happened back then so it was meant to be an unimaginable act that nobody would ever do cause its wrong but it unfortunately became reality
@@Baja_blaast Funnily enough I watched a video of a guy analizing Postal 1 yesterday, saying exactly what you just said. It is simply depressing how common these things are nowadays
Well, the twist at the end of portal 1 seem that his fear of being experimented on, which was one the main reason that fueled his rampage, ironically happened because he went postal. So he effectively caused his own doom and made his own fear reality.
One thing I may add to this topic: despite it quite "cartoonish" looks and apparent "clunkyness", Postal 2 had some nicely done technical features: NPCs had ability to react both to Dude's or other NPCs action in various ways (like when walking with unzipped pants), they also had functional facial expressions. You may use kick to open doors or deflect incoming rockets. You can precisly cut of limps or part of it, or decapitate someone and move the head by kick or showel (and NPCs would still react to this). You may even choke of your own piss, eat a shit, lure cops with donuts and we still didnt mention all actions that are possible. Even if we found some features "immature" or "disturbing", the amount of care and passion RWS put into Postal 2 is incredible and adding gameplay as violent as player, truly put the game much above type of gore slasher, as many would like to see it. Also, any video about Postal 2 without Tora Bora map is incomplete.
@@oatmilksupremacy When I first heard that You could do that I was like "What? Pffft- There's no way" And then, out of curiosity I tried it and I laughed My ass off when I saw that it worked This Game may not be the Best, but it's very well made and has a lot of passion and care behind it's development
When my friend first told me about postal 2 and all the weird shit you could do in it I accused him of making it up and wasn't convinced until he literally showed me. Those kinds of little details and interactions just weren't a thing you saw in games at the time
Fun bit of trivia: I spoke with the founder of Destructive Creations (dev behind Hatred), Jarosław Zieliński a couple of times. He says that Hatred was the kind of game that he really wanted to play and make when he was an edgy teenager, before he started gamedev work, and so he said that its development was, for him personally, kind of a way of making his teenage dream come true lol. Think abt that what you will, just putting it out there.
I feel like the elementary school being added in was a creative way of showing how you've become a monster without actually having to harm the children. You took yourself here to act upon your urges, even if you didn't hurt them, the thought of actually doing it shows how far the main character (and also the player) have fallen from humanity. The ending shouldn't of been changed because it reflects on the player's actions. It's in your face but it shows that this isn't some self expression brought on by society, you're just a guy who wants to hurt people.
RWS originally had that ending because they believed a school shooting was an unimaginable atrocity that no one could ever bring themselves to commit, not even someone like Postal Guy. However, after the Columbine Shooting and the rise in school shootings, they changed the ending because that unimaginable atrocity is now a grim reality.
As someone who considers myself to be pretty sensitive, I’ve never really considered the Postal series to be anything that shouldn’t exist or reprehensible to own/play. The thing about Postal is that it makes fun of and satirizes so many groups and types that you can tell that none of it has any actual malice behind the depictions. It’s just a video game where you can comically murder anyone you want and pee on their corpses if you feel so compelled to. Frankly I just think that news and media want something to cry about and blame for issues that are more deep than just video games inciting violence. It’s easier to blame something that doesn’t have a voice to argue back than to actually analyze what’s really wrong
It's all it is tbh, take something people at large wont understand and spread fear around it, blame it for everything evil when the truth is the only one to blame is yourself. Edit- they also never mention that its completely optional in 2 to kill. It's a legit achievement not to
Not that it would matter what you considered it to be anyways. Even if your pussified nature won and made you feel like it shouldn't exist, your opinion would still be worthless
@Gabriel Kobari Why would you ever think that I'd care for your anecdotal stories of some irrelevant subject? And why would you assume I live in the US?
@Gabriel Kobari you still havent linked said articles, ive read that games can actually be therapeutic to those with a leaning towards violence as it can be a medium in which they can express such anger without endangering others, ive also read that people predisposed to violence irl are drawn to videogames anyway and that games do not cause actions taken irl. Blaming art or any medium for violence irl is the laziest cop out, scapegoating ever, blaming gaming is the newest fad, before this was violent movies and tv, before that it was radio, before that it was newspapers, books, magazines etc, music being blamed has existed the longest.
@Gabriel Kobari its only link is that people who cant commit the acts of sadism they already want to commit do it in the virtual. Videogames are not a teaching tool for acts of evil, yes sure, give me the title of the said book (is it public property like in a free access digi library or is it bought?). Mediums cannot be blamed for the actions of willing individuals who had such evil machinations beforehand or had tell tale signs beforehand (if youre reading up on psychology so much you must realise how many who blamed videogames as a legal cop out (and not as an actual truthful defence) suffered from mental illnesses previously or other factors that are absolute priority over videogames such as bullying, drug addiction, mental health issues etc. The scapegoating of different mediums needs to stop and its quite ironic calling others immature adults or children. And I dont have what i presume is discord you are on about, as i dont have many social medias.
Postal 3 definitely deserves an update or a remake at the least, it had soo much potential, it was simply struck by an unfortunate circumstance that made it what it is
I can't tell you how disturbed I was while watching you explain postal 1. I only played Postal 2 since my childhood and thought that Postal 1 was the same but older. Oh man how wrong I was.
yeah it’s so weird. i think Postal 2 is a hilarious commentary on how violence in video games is perceived, and it leads to tons of great moments. Postal 1 on the other hand i feel genuinely disturbed by.
@Дамир Птицын im offended by the lack of offensiveness in bus simulator 2018. I should be able to put offensive slogans on the side of my bus and hit pedestrians.
I remember I heard someone said they thought the postal 1 end was the postal dude seeing a funeral and realizing that the burial of the dead was evidence that the people he was killing actually weren't monsters like he thought
I love how you can cash out the check, and then when the alarm is already on, you can still head to the vault and steal the money, plus no police chases you because you didnt trigger the alarm
I love the Paradise lost ending where the town gets nuked AGAIN. It's just a good way of having "all your actions didn't matter" because frankly the game is only as violent as you are
I think it's just a "Lmao Paradise can't get a break" thing, not something deep Because in the ending where Postal Dude rules Paradise nothing happens to it
The first Postal game is such a product of its time, I love it. The gritty atmosphere, the edgy quotes between each stage, disturbing premise and visuals.... I all just screams late 90'.
Late 90's - early 00's was the peak for angsty cringe. Rap metal rained supreme. "I'm mad 'cause I'm pissed!" It was kinda beautiful, in it's own retarded way.
"(the creator of the movie) doesn't take himself serious" but challenged everyone who critiqued his work to a boxing match, doesn't really add up but anything besides this a great summary of the game genre and series. Much love and respect, keep it up and stay positive!
To be fair, I guess challenging critics to a boxing match isn't very serious to be fair, like if they were serious, they would be just be responding to critism
@@daiymohermitaurenjoyer9160 I think it's more than serious, it's taking it personal to the point you want to fight (legally) the ones criticizing you. I think someone who doesn't take martial arts serious is naive.
@@MartialGlobe Not really. He has fun in the boxing matches. It's him giving a goofy and lighthearted response. Afterwards he takes photos with his arms around the people who did it and they're laughing. People aren't naive; you just have poor social cues.
@@silent_shout I haven't seen the actual matches, I should have done more research, my bad I apologize about this. My point still stands that martial arts, the call outs and the shit talk connected to it, is being generally taking serious, nice to see that in this case it was a lighthearted call out and match but you can't generalize it, which is my point - usually you wouldn't call someone out to fight if you're not serious about it. The only lighthearted matches I've seen were exhibition matches or matches were one fighter seriously outclassed another and realized this.. People are very naive; atleast I am trying to find common ground
One theory I've seen going around for postal 1 is that there wasn't any killing at all, that the entirety of the game's events took place in the postal dude's mind, which would be a kind of interesting parallel to the person playing the game. At the time postal came out, video game violence was a hotly debated topic, and what is playing a violent video game besides playing pretend with extra steps? Postal Dude could have been isolated as a result of having violent fantasies, and in solitary confinement his mental state could have deteriorated to such a degree that he's convinced he's living out those fantasies. I'm pretty sure that's not the intended message, but I enjoy thinking of messages you /could/ take away from a story, even if it's inaccurate
Jesus Henry Christ! I remember playing postal as a kid without a single thought in my head about it being offensive. I just thought it was cool that you could pee anywhere
no such thing as offending someone, or being offensive. Offence is taken, not given. It is always the fault of the offended party for getting offended. Always remember that. When someone claims you "offended" them, laugh in their face and do it again
"they somehow made the finished game look worse than the pre-alpha" it's incredibly sad that that's common with tons game nowadays battlefield, cyberpunk, back4blood, the list goes on
Really thought you said Blackboard, instead of back4blood, which is a college class program/portal that fucking sucked back in the day, and was the only way to check your grade, get various documents, etc.
The postal games were the definition of dumb fun, what other game lets you piss on everyone you see and light them on fire. It's basically an edgier GTA
and GTA used to be the pinnacle of edginess. Would be amazing if GTA 6 managed to be edgy asf. Edgy back then meant pissing off conservatives. Now days, being edgy is mocking leftist ideals
Personally, seeing Postal 1's ending being so dissatisfying is fitting, why reward you for going out and causing a mass genocide on your home town? It ain't meant to be a good ending, you're not meant to feel good about it.
@@mr.x6313 Sounds more like you’re an 80 IQ pseudo-intellectual that refuses to see violence in a nuanced way and just go “very violent means glorifying it!!”
@@lil2pacx Bullcrap. There is absolutely no redeeming artistic merit to such simulated brutality. I repeat: it is irresponsible, immoral, and reprehensible to portray such brutal violence, whatever the intention. Just becasue you can create doesn't mean you should create.
The amount of optional BS in Postal 2 is amazing. You can find Al-Quaeda behind your house, on, I think Thursday, and go defeat them, ‘Murica style, and the game never even so much as hints at this being a thing.
Honestly I feel like an idiot, I'm 35 and always thought "Going Postal" had something to do with the Post Office worker going insane. This franchise eluded me through my lifetime, thanks YT. You're a real one
Actually, I think that might be where the franchise got its name from; post office workers going and shooting up their workplaces! Edit: sigh, and I might as well ask what your icon is from...
You're 100% right bud the talk about it in Seinfeld and that predates portal by a bit. Something about the mi never stops and it being the same thing everyday
You didn't mention how in Postal 2 waiting at the bank, people keep pushing in front of you and the sound of the clock ticking gets really loud. It pushes you to do something.
@@kukky22 *YES* 1 hour video, just like he said. Wow it take a true special one to tell someone (no) it's not a" (1) hour (video) " it's a "postal (1) hour (video)" It's still a 1 hour video wtf you mean no then agree wow man I bet you're smart
Postal 2 is like if you gathered a dozen game devs, gave them a massive stockpile of methamphetamine, and then told them "ok you guys have 24 hours to figure out what this game is gonna be about"
i remember hearing from the devs somewhere that the quotations from the dude are his psychosis speaking and the actual damage sounds and grunts are the dude's actual voice, which makes sense since they were two different voice actors in postal 1 also, a real fun thing to do in 2 is crawl all over the place each day since there's some secrets that only show up on certain days
How nice. But, I never knew that there were two voice actors in Postal 1 or that the other actor voiced the damage sounds or grunts. Moreover, I always thought that the damage sounds and grunts were made by a computer or a software, it does save the extra of time of having time of actually manually making those sounds. Also, I never knew that there were certain secrets for specific days in Postal 2.
Postal 1 and 2 were good fun for their time. About 10 years ago, I got the Postal X collector's edition that comes in an actual box of Crotchy-Os. It has both expansions for postal 2 as well.
regarding Postal 1 i must say the ending really made me feel uncomfortable not talking about the kids stuff since i played redux. Just the way the animation just weirdly wobles around, the art feeling incredibly closed in like the walls are seconds away from crushing postal dude, the weird tantacles seemingly nearing postal dude with the intend to just pull him into their grasp all while instead of helping the dude we just hear a news report or puplic speech that tries to sound like they are concerned and understanding but we see what is going on. Instead of getting the help he needs he is left to suffer and be tortured by his twisted mind prisson. I love this scene because it so perfectly makes me feel unwell.
i know this video came out a long time ago, but i think the scene with the elementary schoolers in the first postal is where the dude finally realized what he was doing was wrong because he saw his own dead son as the children. that's why they all look identical to each other, they're all his dead son and he can't kill him. this could be because the son is already dead, but i think it's more symbolic of his love for his son and how he, the monster of the entire game who kills all that crosses his path of rage, couldn't bring himself to harm him (or the children he replaced). the post-hardmode scene is almost certainly a flashback of the funeral of his son and the children laughing is likely a callback to the elementary school level. this is more speculative, but maybe the son was killed by something other than disease, perhaps a person. this may explain why the dude couldn't kill the children at the school, because he would become the same type of person that killed his son (and ruined his entire life). it's this event that the flashback arises from. at the funeral, his current self falls to his knees because he realizes the gravity of the situation and thinks of all the other lives he's ruined on his rampage. he can't bring himself to hurt anyone else and the imagery of his son as all the children is what forces him to this conclusion.
I remember buying Postal at a store in the US when I went on holidays there and brought it in no questions asked. When Postal 2 came out I ordered it directly from the RWS website and received it with no issues. Thankfully Australian customs couldn't care less about the censorship of the rOFLCopter.
@@AverageAlien said by Americans trying to convince themselves their country has any value. I'm not yet vaxxed and able to do basically anything I want.
This video is so beautifully done. I've watched this about 4 or 5 times since it first came out, and I just keep coming back and not getting bored. This is a gem.
Postal 2 was so progressive for its time. It even had a gay dance bar. With a balcony overlooking the dance floor. Where molotov cocktails spawned ....
Seriously man, I know I'm just another comment out of thousands, but thank you for this. Actually pumped to sink an hour in to this. Best way to start 2022 mate, hope everything's good that way.
I've found postal 1 to be the most interesting when it comes to its story. It's two completely different interpretations of the events depending on the difficulty was such a good idea. Normal depicting a man relishing in the atrocities he commits and hard, depicting him scared out of his mind fighting for self preservation. There's just a whole lot that they did with 1 to make it more palatable and thought provoking than something like hatred.
Postal 2 does unintentionally pose a philosophical question as to whether you can truly keep your moral stands as tight as Batman if the ease of killing people who themselves are immoral to a seemingly unacceptable degree can you remain a pacifist? For me? It makes me think like serial killer....Not sure if that is more or less as bad as going postal.
I honestly love your theory for the ending of postal 1, it really does tie everything together in probably the most sensical way we could speculate. Might just be a theory, but thats definitely the idea I'm sticking with
@@user-kw7jc9yv6k Just because we differ on the opinion of a lowbrow trash video game, you don't think it's possible that we could get along? That's rather extreme of you.
I honestly like the ending of the original first postal the most. It’s dark and like you said glorifies violence, but I find it better for the style of course and the fact that a horrible person of a character just simply ends with him suffering in a ward being studied on. A sour and dark ending in my opinion just does so much more for leaving you disgusted in a such a great way. Don’t really see any bitter endings anymore
The school level has actually been confirmed to have been a complete hallucination, that's why Postal Dude can't harm them. Also, Hatred is a funky game.
Postal is the greatest for blowing steam off, no matter what I do, I always return to this game at least once in every couple of years. Never gets me bored. My friend even wrote a short story inspired by Postal. Thanks man for this video, really appreciate it :)
@@Turbs94945 If you are familiarized with the Postal lore it is clear that the events in the story are taking places far back in the past. Lead character is a unemployed man with two troubled kids(one of them later becoming the Postal dude himself) moving into small town in Midwest finding an under payed job. As things were about the hit the fan he finds a part time job testing new experimental military drug that improves combat capabilities(again if you know the lore it is clear that it is a catnip) Story is full of fowl language violence and all other sorts of politically incorrect stuff. It is called The green cat, life and times of Mike the dude senior. I don't think it is available anywhere now.
The whole theory that the Postal 1 player character is Dude’s dad kinda works. Considering the fact that Dude’s dad is the final boss in Postal 4: No Regerts, and it’s also revealed that Dude’s dead “father” in Postal 2 is actually he’s stepfather. The whole pacifist thing introduced in Postal 2 could make sense in the way of, Dude’s dad goes nuts commits the acts he did in Postal 1 and is locked up, (the coffin ending meaning the death of himself to his family), then Dude is sent to live with his mother who finds another man being Dude’s stepfather, Dude is then raised to be normal, however he still has he’s Father’s violent tendencies in him. (It’s a pretty wild theory I know but it kinda makes sense at least too me)
Over here in Germany Postal 2 was never commercially available because our censors really didn't like it. Which only made it so much more appealing to us back in the day. I was a teenager at the time, and Postal 2 was this legendary game everyone talked about at school, but most people didn't even have it and just shared rumors. I remember one dude telling me that one of the missions on the first day is to go to the bakery and buy bread, and you can go postal and kill the baker and then the bread will be splattered with blood and you get to take soggy blood-soaked bread home... Looks like the "get milk from the store" mission turned into something much more brutal thanks to the rumor mill! I finally got a pirated copy of the game in the mid-00s and it was hilarious. I expected something way more gruesome, kinda like what Hatred ended up being, but got something with way more humor and less serious violence instead. But hey, edgy teens who wanna feel badass are gonna brag that they play the MOST VIOLENT GAME EVER that's banned in our country, and embellish the actual scenes from the game to make it seem more extreme than it is.
Some people don't think like this and take it as an offense to the entire world. Such is the flaw of our emotions when we are driven less by common sense and more on brain washing, whether it's deliberate or not.
from around 14:07 when talking about the NPC dialogue, I genuinely thought you'd made an IRL voice-typo and said they "are oblivion to ya", however it was "Oblivion-tier"... absolutely spot on the money there, these games are super underrated. Thank you as always for providing us with such dope content!
The first postal game makes me think of that old amiga game Damage: The sadistic butchering of mankind. On that game your goal is to get to the presidents bunker and use the nukes to kill as many people on earth, obviously on the way killing everyone on the way, From civilians to police and military. The game even have kill counter that just keeps going up as you play.
One thing I also noticed about the ending of Postal Redux when I played was that at the final level with the church it's displayed that one hostile is present. When the coffin is lowered that number drops to 0, which makes you think where RWS was trying to go with that little detail.
You are not at all slick with that lake oblongata music at 23:00 Edit: this video is lousy with psychonauts music holy shit. This video introduced me to postal and it made me love it. Keep up the good work man
One thing ive never got, even though you technically dont HAVE to kill anyone in Postal 2, you almost have to to survive at least a few of the chores (the steak one and the krotchy one come to mind)
Even then it’s still possible to beat the game without killing anyone to get the pacifist achievement. It’s challenging like you said there’s some spots that you almost have to kill someone. But you can also just pee on them and run away. And bribe krotchy.
I was starting High School when the first Postal came out. The dark tone didn't sit with me for very long, so I was thrilled with the 2nd game. It was crazy at the time, you could just do missions in whatever order, you could just NOT kill people, and then I got to help Gary Coleman fight the feds. I think they actually did mocap for him. I didn't know about Postal 3 until recently and wow, what a mess. That music from the opening bridge sequence is just so baffling, and it will haunt my dreams.
30:38 Apparently it's because Running With Scissors split from Whiptail Interactive after they breached their contract, so to get back at them, they made this mission. Can't confirm that though, but multiple people have said it. You could probably ask Vince on Twitter.
I never heard of Postal before. I'm 30 and always lived under a rock pretty much though. This sounds right up my alley. Would like to do pacifist runs too just because.
@@TheRealRusDaddy Some games like postal and gta make me realise how fucking tipsy I am in games. The slightest annoyance to me results in a bloodbath that I can't explain.
Whenever I describe Postal 2 to my friends I say "Its a masterpiece and a massive pile of shit and I love it". Its broken, ugly and mean but man is it so much fun and hilarious.
TPTV, I just wanted to let you know that this video is actually how I discovered the existence of this franchise (I'm 22 so too young to have known about 2 when it came out)! And you've made me totally fall in love with it. The humor and content is right up my alley plus I love any game that's famous for making parents mad lol. Thanks for the great video! I've watched it multiple times now and it's always fun :D
I took Postal serious for about 15 seconds. Because my first experience of it was a Postal 2 frag montage very similar to that opening in which the player kills a crowd using a variety of weapons. All the "edge" went away from the cat ass silencer came out along with the pissing.
I think it makes sense about the postal 1 theory considering that he couldn’t kill any of the kids in the primary school AND they were all wearing the same exact clothing and hairstyles and size. They were all just the same exact image of his kid and he couldn’t hurt them. Not to mention the burial for the second ending has postal’s main character and his wife, with his wife revealing she has blonde hair allowing genes to pass down and having her kid with blonde hair as well.
Also if i remember correctly: RWS dev that worked on the postal 1 redux said that he changed the ending because school shooting is more often nowadays and it wouldn't have this much impact on people anymore.
Honestly the only things I can say were good about postal 3 was Corey cruise as postal dude (he did a good job with what he was given but he has since done much better in postal 4 and brain damage so I’m glad they kept him around) the postal dudes design as the brown trench coat with the green alien on the T-shirt with the addition of the fingerless gloves makes for a good design for the dude(they also made it look even better in postal 4). And finally the main theme the country style theme kinda fits in a postal game
So this video is where I disappeared to for the past month.
I know it's easy to hate on a creator for trying new things, but my moods and drive to make videos drops massively when I can't actually BE CREATIVE. So please, just give it a chance, much love!
Also, I know it’s cringe to hear, but if you have the ability to share this video anywhere, be that Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, anywhere at all, it would really help this video get out there, thanks :)
Good to see you trying to branch out. The martial art debunk videos are great but it's good to see more variety.
OMG, POSTAL!!! O,O What a great surprise after a long period of silence :D thanks for this gift, u da best!!! happy holidays ^_^
Loved this video. It was so refreshing to hear a breakdoen of this franchise that wasn't of someone who hadn't played the franchise ( I haven't).
I remember actually playing this game when it was a beta... like almost 20 years ago! I can't wait to see if you included ALL the crazy stuff from this game LOL
Don't worry mate, you are doing a great job with your vids. Keep going!
Postal is a satire about how anyone can just snap and go on a murder spree. I actually love how Running With Scissors updates their older games to this day. Most game developers don’t do that for newer computers.
If anything that's what makes them controversial. Integrity, listening to their fans, passion, just mindless fun games no competitive cut throat leagues, no over saturated marketing or gimmicks, no micro transactions garbage.
If they were vocal about it? Oh you can bet they'd be bitched about more
Yeah its easier than making a new game.
I think there’s an 80s movies like that
At least that’s what the VHS Box looked led me to believe...
XD
you mean publishers
@@Ramsey276one well there is the movie Falling Down
Just wanted to say, I believe that Postal 1's ending was meant to imply that he never actually killed anyone, and just hallucinated the whole thing during a mental breakdown. Hence why there's no evidence at the end of the game that he killed people.
My Very thought when I finished It.
Really true. Because if he actually murdered like whole population of 10-15 counties and places and then elementary school, he wouldn't be trown in the mental asylum. He would end up on eletric chair.
@@KJ-ud3mg it's kind you think he'd honestly be even thrown that far. (not shot on the spot i mean)
There's also a theory where the dude was possesed by demons and all the voice lines are from that demon
He only killed like 1000 people
I met the main guy behind the studio at a gaming convention. Vince Desi. I was eating a whole ass pizza lunch with a friend, and he sat down at our table. Neither of us knew who he was, we asked and he explained. He then asked to only have the pizza crust and not the pizza itself. After that weird request we helped at his booth and he gave us both jobs. Cool guy
You can actually see Vince at this timestamp- 29:36
Dude knows that the crust is the best part... Good.
Sounds like exactly the type of psycho to make this kind of game lmao
That’s amazing
@@meatman69696 It's neither. They are not better, or worse, they are just different.
Fun Fact: when the US Supreme Court was deciding a case on whether sales of violent video games to minors should be banned in California, Justices Kagan and Breyer played Postal 2 as an example of a violent, offensive game. Breyer was disgusted, but Kagan was having fun with it, and the court ruled 7-2 against banning violent video game sales to minors, I believe citing the fact that it should be up to the parents to decide what kind of things their children should be exposed to, and that the children would just get adults to buy the games for them anyway.
yeah, alot of folks too soft, they'll be exposed to it anyway
justice kagan is awesome
It’s stupid how parents blame a company and not themselves for a child safety kind of thing.
Like their the damn guardian if they don’t want their child to see or play something then keep tabs on them.
Like the fact that they had to make TH-cam Kids a thing and the age restrictions while parents still blaming it on them is fucking baffling to me.
@@ImJugg Not just that, but kids even look for this stuff nonchalantly sometimes when they hear about it in school, then they simply spread that too and it's like a cycle of info that just grows because kids these days are earlier on desensitized to this type of stuff.
@@bioscar4998 exactly!
I was doing a pacifist run when I tried to get Gary's autograph, but for some reason someone waiting in line aggro'd Gary so everyone pulled out shotguns(Hestonworld moment) and started killing each other. After Gary massacred everyone else around him, he got stuck kicking a corpse and would never go back to his desk to let me actually finish the task. I tried making friends with him by kicking the same cadaver but I guess I got boot dirt on his suit because he immediately started lobbing grenades at me. Cut to me trying to lead Gary Coleman around the mall while he ripped me apart with an assault rifle, hoping he'd accidentally shoot someone else and THEY would kill him. After 20 minutes of mass slaughter, a few cops FINALLY managed to kill Gary and I could take his autograph from his tiny, headless corpse. Modern gaming needs more moments like this.
You know, I'm fairly certain (at least in Postal 2 Complete) there's two Gary Coleman autobiographies lying around in a corridor somewhere in the mall, so if you got screwed over like that in a pacifist run you could still get the autobiographies without problem.
@@jdflasky1969 can confirm, and there's some out of the mall as well I think. I have like 7 of them atm
Badass!!
that is hilarious
Imagine just not buying a biography copy from Pornstroms
It still amazes me that you can complete postal 2 while committing no crimes or killing anyone, it’s not the easiest path but you can still do it.
i have a save file on thursday which hasn't killed a single soul
every time i pick up a gun i drop it in favour of the taser and lots (and i mean lots) of crack
Its funny to think that being a normal human being is harder than being an unbound psychopath on postal, only natural
Yeah did this a couple weeks ago, not really hard if you know the tricks (except at the taliban church raid part maybe)
@@GenericLoser12 Serious crack.
@@uraniumbolt7594 just like real life
FunFact: Uwe Boll once said in an interview that he never was a gamer himself
and that he couldnt care less about games, he just knew he could make a shit load of money with game to movie adaptations.
brutally honest man!
I can respect that
Probably why his movies are universally regarded as trash.
Why would you have to care about games to make a video game adaptation??? You don't even have to care about games to make a game.
@@queerlibtardhippie9357 true
@@queerlibtardhippie9357 you have to care about games to make a good game
Honestly, the fact that the first game ends with him collapsing in a pile of pain upon the discovery that he cannot kill children is way more clever than basically any other game of this type
It wasn't supposed to be that way originally, it was bad
@@jayhosh8126according to who/what?
@@dyngle2926a quote from the creator you silly goose
@@jayhosh8126 waaaah, i killet sum children in a game, waaah, i live in a shithole where guns are legal and you can actually recreate that, fuck outta here man, art should have the freedom to depict whatever the fuck they want, there is a intro warning and an age rating for a reason.
@@slothonastick32 Doesn't mean it's bad.
"Hey, wanna sign my PETITION?"
Every line is gold just in the delivery.
Well the game hasnt got to delivery yet it's still in postal
@@Jellyfilled4289 I deserve your bionicle more than you or Jason since I just had to read that pun, c'mon hand it over 🤲🤲
Cheesy beef of the blood baths to come
@@Jellyfilled4289 You owe everyone in this comment section a Bionicle just for posting that.
@@TeamFriendship8600 okok i think we are over reacting here i lost my Bionicles once and i won't lose them again
One weird fact about Postal 1 - if I remember correctly, the voice we hear in game IS NOT the voice of the Postal Dude (protagonist), but the voice of a demon living inside his head. The little hint about it is hidden in the game files. This fact makes the game even more disturbing.
the tvtropes page for postal actually mentions this, idk what file that was found in tho
Hes a schizo
@@starchilde8698 The Postal Dude shows signs of schizophrenia though, altered behaviour, voices in his head, severe paranoia, psychosis. The plot of the first game centers around the fact that The Dude thinks his entire neighborhood is out to get him. Its not a positive portrayal definitely, most schizophreniacs aren't violent at all.
@@starchilde8698 calm down Nancy
@@starchilde8698 stay mad nancy
Despite Postal 2 being a very silly and satirical game, it's also one of the best examples of how to make exploration meaningful and rewarding. There are so many cool secrets and hidden caches on every single map.
The core gameplay is pretty satisfying so I wondered why I found apocalypse weekend and eternal damnation so boring, and it's because postal 2's world is what ties the entire game together. It's a small open world but every place has a purpose and is loaded with details and secrets
I was shocked when I found tora bora in the sewers
Yeah, when I got bored of killing everyone or doing the chores, I would look around to find something and it never disappoints, it's full of places and items to find if you're curious enough
100% agree. Beaten it two weeks ago and exploration of the world was indeed surprisingly satisfying.
Really enjoyed first 5 game days and was irritated by the last 2.
Aren’t there a bunch of open world games like that over the last 20+ years? Finding a lot of details and Easter eggs.
It's genuinely sad to see what postal 3 could have been. The art style is so appealing and the starting development seemed really promising if it wasn't for the poor financial aspects, budgeting issues and layoffs
what postal 3
What do you mean? Paradise lost is awesome!
Eh I don’t think so while I think it could’ve been a lot better if that hadn’t happened just remember the same people who made postal 3 also made postal corkscrew rules which I consider just a Russian bootleg rather than an actual game
Postal guy's inability to harm the elementary schoolers is a really cool artistic touch and it's even cooler that it's left ambiguous. Maybe he couldn't bring himself to harm kids despite plotting out his fantasy of doing so. Maybe he was so disgusted with his actions at that point that he was subconsciously rejecting the reality of what he was doing. Maybe the whole game was just one big delusion.
Yeah I played that game a lot. It's pretty sick but it was fun I think the the irony is that people took it seriously.
Might've also just been to prevent the game from getting an AO rating, which would've meant most stores would've refused to even put the game on their shelves. I'd say that an AO for ultraviolence was unheard of at the time, but hey, Hatred managed to pull it off.
@@DJstarrfish Weird because Hatred is just edgy trash with no rhyme or reason while Postal 1 is an edgy masterpiece.
@@DJstarrfish just as well because I'm I'm the guy that can't kill the little sisters in BioShock so there's that but I can cause mayhem and postal but all those people were sinners you know except I mean Coleman and the hookers and the haji's it was okay to just blast away with your but I never got that far. To the schoolyard anyway I made it to I do remember the Christmas tree all those people need was fun to just to wipe out who else I don't remember anybody that I felt guilty about in postal as far as I got anyway so it's just as well I never made it to the schoolyard or they didn't allow like I said I couldn't I couldn't kill the little sisters in BioShock. so I'm that guy
I still have that game postal too it's not installed but yeah it was sick it was really funny
The way I got into Postal was that one day, as a middleschooler, I randomly decided to rummage through my father's mysterious plastic bag of random cds, and one of them just had "postal 2" written on it with a sharpe.
I put it in, and the rest was magic.
There’s something so magical about pc games on disc, I can’t explain it. I guess they have charm since most pc games are bought digitally.
Your dad was cool.
I find it weird that the reason i got into the series was around the time my little pony was still relevant and in my middle school days I watched brony channels. One such channel actually played postal 2 and apocalypse weeked
@@yagoossimp Yeah, digital copies feel meaningless. Buying a game on Steam feels like a legal version of downloading it from TPB.
@@cannedbeverage7687 You can always burn something to a CD, but a lot of games are pretty big nowadays so good luck if you wanna do that with anything newer.
no one's mentioning it, but according to the developers, Postal 1's ending was meant to be something so unimaginably evil that not even postal dude could do it. that unfortunately didn't apply any more when the redux was released.
Yeah, they said something to the effect of "we wanted to make something so evil that nobody could possibly think of doing, but now the sad truth is that it's our reality."
I feel bad for RWS, they tried doing something they thought was unthinkable in real life, and then Columbine happened
@@ayrtonjoga and then it turned into a regular thing, shit's fucked
@@ayrtonjoga what? Shooting angsty teens is more imaginable than elementary school children. Then sandy hook became a thing.
Sadly that’s not the case for the real psychopaths we have living today.
For anyone wondering: song at the start was "Thats the break" by Stands With Fists. Song at 19:06 is "Vigahugr - Lust For Battle" by Einar Selvik
thank you
Thank you amazing person
Postal 1, 2, and 4. What an amazing trilogy.
wheres postal 3
@@spidersae2wswd54 never heard of it.
@@spidersae2wswd54 postal what
Just like valve said but replace the postal with half life
@@spidersae2wswd54 There is no Postal 3 in Ba Sing Se
Fun fact: postal2 has a grave in the graveyard with the name "Postal storyline".
HAHAHAHAHA
I love how self aware the scond one is without being the "cringey meta type"
@@Zentailium
It certainly fucks around in funny ways, though the latter ones can be argued about regarding being funny.
@@a.k8185 3 is… yeah nah 4 is alright
@@Zentailium
Egh.
One of my favorite things about the bank errand in Postal 2 is that, during one playthrough, I did exactly as the robbers said. I stood still and didn't move. Everyone got shot *except* me, and I was able to just casually walk out the front doors unharmed.
I did that in my first ever play through.
@@kingp260 Lesson learned: apathy makes you bulletproof LOL
Yeah, and in my playthrough the bank was overrun with cops from the start resulting in a slaughter
For all of you wondering, the intro song is called *Stands With Fists - "That's The Break".*
i scrolled forever for this comment! Thank youuuu
THANK You! Driving me nuts.
I looked for weeks when this first came out for this songs so thank you
You absolute legend, thank you, you just made my day
Thank you, good sir.
i remember a friend saying that I should play Portal. My 12 year-old self googled it and got a free version online. Although, being a 12 year old, I did not notice that the R was an S, and I was scarred for life
Lmaaaaaooooo😂😂😂😂
@@kaneweast7857 what?
@@MightyG0RILLA he meant to play portal 2 not postal 2
@@NameTheUnnamed12 this man just shared his experience, I don't understand the point in telling him what to do now?
@@MightyG0RILLA I just explained what was going on
Fun fact: In the game “Oh Sir: The Insult Simulator”, one character that you can unlock is in fact the postal dude, voice and everything
It's so awesome that they actually got Rick Hunter to play him again lol
Oh yeah the elementary school was kinda messed up to think about
I never knew that, how cool.
@@dnkakusei nice.
@@dnkakusei sorry to burst your bubble but it's Corey Cruise in Oh Sir.
"Do you think video games are evil?"
"You'd know if it was up your a**."
"You're not really helping!"
This is S tier dialogue!
Islam sucks lol
Cope
Truly the only way to tell the moral and ethical quality of a given thing would be to place it in one’s rectal cavity.
Hitler has never been up my ass so how would I know if he was a cool dude or not
I think that's true. Video games doesn't make you evil. I grew up playing counter strike and GTA. Did playing the game want me to shoot the cops? No. Those are just excuse of some parents so their kids won't play as much.
And so that they can blame something for their bad parenting
@@settingsun5582 yeah those parents should’ve shoved the games up their asses, would’ve known they weren’t evil then.
Hearing Oblivions absolutely beautiful and peaceful soundtrack while talking about Postal 2 is the most emotional whiplash Ive had
I remember playing Postal 2 and going to the church to confess my sins. I was waiting at the end of the long line and someone cut me and I couldn’t hop in front of him so I had to accept it. Combined with the long line and someone cutting me I thought after like literal 7 minutes of waiting “F**k this.” and pulled out my M16 and just pulled the trigger thinking “Ehh… it just another sin to confess to.” Sometimes it really is easy to tip you over in that game.
I read this and thought you were talking about in real life and were about to say how you told your church pastor that you played Postal 2 all week lmao
@@radiocaster2k I misread his comment in the exact same way lmao
@@GamingBlake2002 lol
@@GamingBlake2002 me too lmao
That's the beauty of postal 2, it constantly sends you into infuriating situations where even the most calm and collected people think; "Man, this fucken sucks, why can't we just brute force this?" and it's up to you and your will to hold that urge back. It teases you with the oppertunities to do it over and over, but you have the choice to not give in.
The creators had this interesting quote about why they changed the first postal’s ending in postal redux:
“The whole idea of the original ending no longer applies anyway - it was supposed to depict something that, at the time, would have been completely unthinkable, and out of touch with reality. Tragically the sad truth is that, in today's world, it is no longer an unthinkable nightmare but a very depressing reality. “
Wasn't all of Postal 1 just a depressing reality? Hm.
@@NikolasoGames School shootings weren't something that happened like every month back then
@@wingsoficarus1139 there isn’t a school shooting every week. Schools are actually safer than they’ve ever been in the past. If you look at school shooting charts from the 90s up to present day you’ll see that we’ve had a huge down trend in school shootings over the years. The only reason why it feels like they happen more often is because specific parts of politics want to lead you to believe that to be the case, but the numbers are out there and they don’t lie.
@@Kryptonicx7x This year so far, there have been 27 school shootings in the past 7 months. Thats almost 1 per week as there are about 30 weeks in 7 months. Also, sure the schools themselves are implementing more countermeasures and overall are more safe however, that doesn't disclose the fact that the amount of mass shootings at schools have increased in the past couple of years. Of course, its not as bad as the 35 incidents that took place between 1993 and 1994(and about 30 the year before that) however, looking at the fact that we already have 27 shootings 7 months in the year, we aren't looking so great.
Edit: I checked back to see how many shootings as of November 2nd and... there are 40 involving injuries/deaths.
@@Kryptonicx7x I just looked it up and it showed shootings have skyrocketed between 2018 and now. Where are your sources?
In postal 4, there was a bug that you couldn't get the pacifist ending in any way, besides cheating.
Scissors fixed this last week or so and my friend, who tried to get every pacifist ending that is possible in the postal games, immediately got on postal 4 and was the FIRST to get the achievement without cheating
She even filmed it
Good job
@@mts9266 Saul
wheres the film
"she"
@@rapecel gfy
That new ending with the funeral to me seems to represent the results of the player's actions. Having taken everyone out, there is none left to attend the funeral. Having noted and realized his actions, the character then realizes what he has done after coming back to his sense and then proceeding to have a severe mental breakdown.
The school ending is actually really powerful I didn't know that was a thing, it's creepy and weird especially given the graphic style and the way the kids are all faceless and look the same. I get why they removed it but the funeral ending doesn't quite have the same level of "wtf" as the original.
I heard the reason why they changed the ending of Postal 1 was because Postal 1 was made before Columbine, before there were school shootings in the United States, originally the ending was supposed to be something so outrageously shocking and horrific that would be unthinkable.
Since reality ended up devolving down to Postal 1's level, by the remake they wanted to change as the message was gone. There are real world monsters who are far more threatening than the Postal Dude.
@@jameskowanko7574 Yeah I watched a video on that recently, I totally get the change but I still don't find the new ending nearly as unsettling.
If I remember right, the only reason why they removed the school shooting ending was because it'd not be shocking anymore... which makes not the new ending but the change itself really disturbing
@@boringveil4783 i saw someone say that it wasnt cause it wouldnt be shocking that original ending was made that way because it was meant to be an unimaginable act of violence, that even our protagonist couldnt bring themselves to do and nobody else could do either (probably to solidify that alot of the game is probably not actually happening but all in his mind and a result of the breakdown he had) but was then unfortunately changed because that awful event(s) became reality :( school shootings weren’t something that really happened back then so it was meant to be an unimaginable act that nobody would ever do cause its wrong but it unfortunately became reality
@@Baja_blaast Funnily enough I watched a video of a guy analizing Postal 1 yesterday, saying exactly what you just said.
It is simply depressing how common these things are nowadays
Well, the twist at the end of portal 1 seem that his fear of being experimented on, which was one the main reason that fueled his rampage, ironically happened because he went postal. So he effectively caused his own doom and made his own fear reality.
My favorite twist of portal 1 was the cake
yea i dont think he really grasped the first one
my favorite twist in portal 1 was the fire room bit
My favorite portal twist was when you find out that her dad was a scientist at the same laboratory where GLaDOS was made
@@ProGamer-lk9qw oh yeah that’s a good one
One thing I may add to this topic: despite it quite "cartoonish" looks and apparent "clunkyness", Postal 2 had some nicely done technical features: NPCs had ability to react both to Dude's or other NPCs action in various ways (like when walking with unzipped pants), they also had functional facial expressions. You may use kick to open doors or deflect incoming rockets. You can precisly cut of limps or part of it, or decapitate someone and move the head by kick or showel (and NPCs would still react to this). You may even choke of your own piss, eat a shit, lure cops with donuts and we still didnt mention all actions that are possible.
Even if we found some features "immature" or "disturbing", the amount of care and passion RWS put into Postal 2 is incredible and adding gameplay as violent as player, truly put the game much above type of gore slasher, as many would like to see it.
Also, any video about Postal 2 without Tora Bora map is incomplete.
Fun fact: before luring a cop with a donut, try pissing on it and they will throw up after eating it.
@@The_Soda_Man you even get a achievement for doing it
@@oatmilksupremacy When I first heard that You could do that I was like "What? Pffft- There's no way"
And then, out of curiosity I tried it and I laughed My ass off when I saw that it worked
This Game may not be the Best, but it's very well made and has a lot of passion and care behind it's development
When my friend first told me about postal 2 and all the weird shit you could do in it I accused him of making it up and wasn't convinced until he literally showed me.
Those kinds of little details and interactions just weren't a thing you saw in games at the time
Wwwwhhhhoooooaaaaaaaaa, the NPC's react to the player in this game??!!??
Postal 1 walked so hatred could trip down the stairs and break it's neck
Fun bit of trivia: I spoke with the founder of Destructive Creations (dev behind Hatred), Jarosław Zieliński a couple of times. He says that Hatred was the kind of game that he really wanted to play and make when he was an edgy teenager, before he started gamedev work, and so he said that its development was, for him personally, kind of a way of making his teenage dream come true lol. Think abt that what you will, just putting it out there.
Very interesting thank you for your comment!
That's a questionably wholesome moment
A game dev making the game he wanted to play, that's respectable.
I mean...in a weird way, the game is kind of a love letter to edgelord teen angst 💀
@Shane Doe 🤨📸
I feel like the elementary school being added in was a creative way of showing how you've become a monster without actually having to harm the children. You took yourself here to act upon your urges, even if you didn't hurt them, the thought of actually doing it shows how far the main character (and also the player) have fallen from humanity. The ending shouldn't of been changed because it reflects on the player's actions. It's in your face but it shows that this isn't some self expression brought on by society, you're just a guy who wants to hurt people.
i dont think it was meant to be that deep i think they were just trying to push for a reaction
It was changed bc at the time it was supposed to represent something so horrible that even postal do couldn't do it but it is a reality now soooo
@@charly6066 that was the first thought but then it turned into a type of lore
Tell me how the playe has fallen from humanity by engaging on a game that hurts no one 😂😂
RWS originally had that ending because they believed a school shooting was an unimaginable atrocity that no one could ever bring themselves to commit, not even someone like Postal Guy. However, after the Columbine Shooting and the rise in school shootings, they changed the ending because that unimaginable atrocity is now a grim reality.
As someone who considers myself to be pretty sensitive, I’ve never really considered the Postal series to be anything that shouldn’t exist or reprehensible to own/play. The thing about Postal is that it makes fun of and satirizes so many groups and types that you can tell that none of it has any actual malice behind the depictions. It’s just a video game where you can comically murder anyone you want and pee on their corpses if you feel so compelled to. Frankly I just think that news and media want something to cry about and blame for issues that are more deep than just video games inciting violence. It’s easier to blame something that doesn’t have a voice to argue back than to actually analyze what’s really wrong
It's all it is tbh, take something people at large wont understand and spread fear around it, blame it for everything evil when the truth is the only one to blame is yourself.
Edit- they also never mention that its completely optional in 2 to kill. It's a legit achievement not to
Not that it would matter what you considered it to be anyways. Even if your pussified nature won and made you feel like it shouldn't exist, your opinion would still be worthless
@Gabriel Kobari Why would you ever think that I'd care for your anecdotal stories of some irrelevant subject? And why would you assume I live in the US?
@Gabriel Kobari you still havent linked said articles, ive read that games can actually be therapeutic to those with a leaning towards violence as it can be a medium in which they can express such anger without endangering others, ive also read that people predisposed to violence irl are drawn to videogames anyway and that games do not cause actions taken irl.
Blaming art or any medium for violence irl is the laziest cop out, scapegoating ever, blaming gaming is the newest fad, before this was violent movies and tv, before that it was radio, before that it was newspapers, books, magazines etc, music being blamed has existed the longest.
@Gabriel Kobari its only link is that people who cant commit the acts of sadism they already want to commit do it in the virtual.
Videogames are not a teaching tool for acts of evil, yes sure, give me the title of the said book (is it public property like in a free access digi library or is it bought?).
Mediums cannot be blamed for the actions of willing individuals who had such evil machinations beforehand or had tell tale signs beforehand (if youre reading up on psychology so much you must realise how many who blamed videogames as a legal cop out (and not as an actual truthful defence) suffered from mental illnesses previously or other factors that are absolute priority over videogames such as bullying, drug addiction, mental health issues etc.
The scapegoating of different mediums needs to stop and its quite ironic calling others immature adults or children.
And I dont have what i presume is discord you are on about, as i dont have many social medias.
Postal 3 definitely deserves an update or a remake at the least, it had soo much potential, it was simply struck by an unfortunate circumstance that made it what it is
Trashmasters kept the source code even when they went bankrupt shortly after, RWS cant fix it even if they wanted to
there's a postal 3 improvement mod in the works
I can't tell you how disturbed I was while watching you explain postal 1. I only played Postal 2 since my childhood and thought that Postal 1 was the same but older. Oh man how wrong I was.
yeah it’s so weird. i think Postal 2 is a hilarious commentary on how violence in video games is perceived, and it leads to tons of great moments. Postal 1 on the other hand i feel genuinely disturbed by.
@@morgboat744 I got this game from a daily steam key giveaway, i wish i didnt holy sh*t
Gtfo, clearly only children commenting
@@truelies9187 clearly, even as someone who must be a full grown tough man, cant figure out that its irrelevant to reply 2 months late to a comment
@@truelies9187 gtfo, no boomers allowed on the internet. Go back to your 9-5
Being offensive is literally a game mechanic, without it there is no game
@Дамир Птицын im offended by the lack of offensiveness in bus simulator 2018. I should be able to put offensive slogans on the side of my bus and hit pedestrians.
@@keltongillanders5736 imagine having a fuckin confederate flag in a bus
@@elmatapacos7441 get in the General We. We are going pedestrian crushing.
Even my black ass would laugh at that bullshit
or a ku klux klan worship in a fuckin bus
I remember I heard someone said they thought the postal 1 end was the postal dude seeing a funeral and realizing that the burial of the dead was evidence that the people he was killing actually weren't monsters like he thought
That's postal redux i think , postal 1 ends on a elementary school shooting
@@doctext-jose.e-3484 .
@@ChargedRazor what? its true, although you cant actually kill any schoolers
I love how you can cash out the check, and then when the alarm is already on, you can still head to the vault and steal the money, plus no police chases you because you didnt trigger the alarm
I love the Paradise lost ending where the town gets nuked AGAIN. It's just a good way of having "all your actions didn't matter" because frankly the game is only as violent as you are
I think it's just a "Lmao Paradise can't get a break" thing, not something deep
Because in the ending where Postal Dude rules Paradise nothing happens to it
The first Postal game is such a product of its time, I love it. The gritty atmosphere, the edgy quotes between each stage, disturbing premise and visuals.... I all just screams late 90'.
Late 90's - early 00's was the peak for angsty cringe. Rap metal rained supreme.
"I'm mad 'cause I'm pissed!"
It was kinda beautiful, in it's own retarded way.
@@michaelbarbarich3965 Ahhh... so nostalgic. Good old times of Style IS Substance and Rule of Cool ^^
@@michaelbarbarich3965 At least we got classic albums like Hybrid Theory. Nu Metal is still one of my favourite music genres despite the hate it gets.
@@ThierryRocksTV I've heard that nu metal was actually more respected in other countries. So there's a plus.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 France had Pleymo, Philippines had Grey Houndz, UK had Number One Son etc
I love how the news and media would freak out about violent games but nowadays they don’t even cover games that are violent.
Doesn't ragebait like it use to
"(the creator of the movie) doesn't take himself serious" but challenged everyone who critiqued his work to a boxing match, doesn't really add up but anything besides this a great summary of the game genre and series. Much love and respect, keep it up and stay positive!
To be fair, I guess challenging critics to a boxing match isn't very serious to be fair, like if they were serious, they would be just be responding to critism
@@daiymohermitaurenjoyer9160 I think it's more than serious, it's taking it personal to the point you want to fight (legally) the ones criticizing you.
I think someone who doesn't take martial arts serious is naive.
Agree to disagree?
@@MartialGlobe Not really. He has fun in the boxing matches. It's him giving a goofy and lighthearted response. Afterwards he takes photos with his arms around the people who did it and they're laughing.
People aren't naive; you just have poor social cues.
@@silent_shout I haven't seen the actual matches, I should have done more research, my bad I apologize about this. My point still stands that martial arts, the call outs and the shit talk connected to it, is being generally taking serious, nice to see that in this case it was a lighthearted call out and match but you can't generalize it, which is my point - usually you wouldn't call someone out to fight if you're not serious about it. The only lighthearted matches I've seen were exhibition matches or matches were one fighter seriously outclassed another and realized this..
People are very naive; atleast I am trying to find common ground
One theory I've seen going around for postal 1 is that there wasn't any killing at all, that the entirety of the game's events took place in the postal dude's mind, which would be a kind of interesting parallel to the person playing the game. At the time postal came out, video game violence was a hotly debated topic, and what is playing a violent video game besides playing pretend with extra steps? Postal Dude could have been isolated as a result of having violent fantasies, and in solitary confinement his mental state could have deteriorated to such a degree that he's convinced he's living out those fantasies. I'm pretty sure that's not the intended message, but I enjoy thinking of messages you /could/ take away from a story, even if it's inaccurate
Islam sucks lol
Cope
Jesus Henry Christ! I remember playing postal as a kid without a single thought in my head about it being offensive. I just thought it was cool that you could pee anywhere
I love heavy metal
I had more fun trying to parkour around town and throwing piss donuts to see cops puking
no such thing as offending someone, or being offensive. Offence is taken, not given. It is always the fault of the offended party for getting offended. Always remember that. When someone claims you "offended" them, laugh in their face and do it again
@@AverageAlien edgy
@@AverageAlien based
"they somehow made the finished game look worse than the pre-alpha" it's incredibly sad that that's common with tons game nowadays battlefield, cyberpunk, back4blood, the list goes on
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Really thought you said Blackboard, instead of back4blood, which is a college class program/portal that fucking sucked back in the day, and was the only way to check your grade, get various documents, etc.
@@melwasnevergivenaname Blackboard was THE WORST, oh god I had forgotten about that
@@reckermatouvc Nah they were the ogs tbh
You know an issue is really bad when even Running With Scissors has to outright change the ending.
The original ending was removed because "School shootings have lost their shock value
The postal games were the definition of dumb fun, what other game lets you piss on everyone you see and light them on fire. It's basically an edgier GTA
and GTA used to be the pinnacle of edginess. Would be amazing if GTA 6 managed to be edgy asf. Edgy back then meant pissing off conservatives. Now days, being edgy is mocking leftist ideals
@@AverageAlien Nowadays its a mix of both lol
@@AverageAlien why not both?
@@AverageAlien being edgy nowadays is accidentally "misgendering" people on twitter
@@AverageAlien conservatives aren't as sensible to these stuff as they once were.
Leftists on the other hand... Absolute wusses
Personally, seeing Postal 1's ending being so dissatisfying is fitting, why reward you for going out and causing a mass genocide on your home town? It ain't meant to be a good ending, you're not meant to feel good about it.
So why make the damn game in the first place? What is the point? The people who created this game were creatively irresponsible.
@@mr.x6313 art
@@mr.x6313 Sounds more like you’re an 80 IQ pseudo-intellectual that refuses to see violence in a nuanced way and just go “very violent means glorifying it!!”
@@lil2pacx Bullcrap. There is absolutely no redeeming artistic merit to such simulated brutality. I repeat: it is irresponsible, immoral, and reprehensible to portray such brutal violence, whatever the intention. Just becasue you can create doesn't mean you should create.
@@MadWatcher People can't be annihilated by words. Try again.
35:17 "ok, either my head wound is kicking in or some gamedesigner was smoking crack" best and most honest line I have ever heard ina videogame
The amount of optional BS in Postal 2 is amazing. You can find Al-Quaeda behind your house, on, I think Thursday, and go defeat them, ‘Murica style, and the game never even so much as hints at this being a thing.
Honestly I feel like an idiot, I'm 35 and always thought "Going Postal" had something to do with the Post Office worker going insane. This franchise eluded me through my lifetime, thanks YT. You're a real one
Actually, I think that might be where the franchise got its name from; post office workers going and shooting up their workplaces!
Edit: sigh, and I might as well ask what your icon is from...
It does have something to do with a post office worker going insane. That's where the phrase came from.
You're 100% right bud the talk about it in Seinfeld and that predates portal by a bit. Something about the mi never stops and it being the same thing everyday
@@killerwillies5460 exactly that Seinfeld version supports my definition of going "postal"
@@Ender_Zard Kevin, you damn well better answer this inquisitive lad.
Gary passed so he could make a more convincing appearance as undead-demon-Gary in the game. Truly a man willing to suffer for his art.
god fucking dammit not this santa again
The fact that you can choose whether or not you want to kill makes the game 1000x funnier
The song at 0:15 is called Stand With Fists - That's the break (absolute fkn banger)
Thank you so fucking mutch
You didn't mention how in Postal 2 waiting at the bank, people keep pushing in front of you and the sound of the clock ticking gets really loud. It pushes you to do something.
Dude, one hour video?? Totally deserve my thumbs up, pal!!
No, 1 hour POSTAL video
@@kukky22 *YES* 1 hour video, just like he said. Wow it take a true special one to tell someone (no) it's not a" (1) hour (video) " it's a "postal (1) hour (video)"
It's still a 1 hour video wtf you mean no then agree wow man I bet you're smart
@@ramrodbldm9876 emphasize on POSTAL to understand i.e.: it's hard to make long video on postal lol
Yeah these 1 hour type video essays are the best yt has to offer
I didnt know this was an hour, bravo!
Postal 2 is like if you gathered a dozen game devs, gave them a massive stockpile of methamphetamine, and then told them "ok you guys have 24 hours to figure out what this game is gonna be about"
i remember hearing from the devs somewhere that the quotations from the dude are his psychosis speaking and the actual damage sounds and grunts are the dude's actual voice, which makes sense since they were two different voice actors in postal 1
also, a real fun thing to do in 2 is crawl all over the place each day since there's some secrets that only show up on certain days
How nice. But, I never knew that there were two voice actors in Postal 1 or that the other actor voiced the damage sounds or grunts. Moreover, I always thought that the damage sounds and grunts were made by a computer or a software, it does save the extra of time of having time of actually manually making those sounds. Also, I never knew that there were certain secrets for specific days in Postal 2.
it's even more clear that it was intended ti be different voices since the quotes have the filename "devil"
Postal 1 and 2 were good fun for their time. About 10 years ago, I got the Postal X collector's edition that comes in an actual box of Crotchy-Os. It has both expansions for postal 2 as well.
Is it actually cereal?
@@HibachiLikeGil no, just the box
@@scaleworksRC Did it at least came up with a Krotchy? Would be lovely to have one.
@@LordofSadFac I'm calling my lawyer
this game is the perfect embodiment of "aw shit, here we go again"
regarding Postal 1 i must say the ending really made me feel uncomfortable not talking about the kids stuff since i played redux. Just the way the animation just weirdly wobles around, the art feeling incredibly closed in like the walls are seconds away from crushing postal dude, the weird tantacles seemingly nearing postal dude with the intend to just pull him into their grasp all while instead of helping the dude we just hear a news report or puplic speech that tries to sound like they are concerned and understanding but we see what is going on. Instead of getting the help he needs he is left to suffer and be tortured by his twisted mind prisson. I love this scene because it so perfectly makes me feel unwell.
i know this video came out a long time ago, but i think the scene with the elementary schoolers in the first postal is where the dude finally realized what he was doing was wrong because he saw his own dead son as the children. that's why they all look identical to each other, they're all his dead son and he can't kill him. this could be because the son is already dead, but i think it's more symbolic of his love for his son and how he, the monster of the entire game who kills all that crosses his path of rage, couldn't bring himself to harm him (or the children he replaced). the post-hardmode scene is almost certainly a flashback of the funeral of his son and the children laughing is likely a callback to the elementary school level.
this is more speculative, but maybe the son was killed by something other than disease, perhaps a person. this may explain why the dude couldn't kill the children at the school, because he would become the same type of person that killed his son (and ruined his entire life). it's this event that the flashback arises from. at the funeral, his current self falls to his knees because he realizes the gravity of the situation and thinks of all the other lives he's ruined on his rampage. he can't bring himself to hurt anyone else and the imagery of his son as all the children is what forces him to this conclusion.
He has a dead kid?
@@mrpenguin8731if we consider this theory, he probably had postal dude Jr and this kid
@@Ring_student_yin_sang Nifty
I remember buying Postal at a store in the US when I went on holidays there and brought it in no questions asked.
When Postal 2 came out I ordered it directly from the RWS website and received it with no issues.
Thankfully Australian customs couldn't care less about the censorship of the rOFLCopter.
@@arguechefs2998 i mean postal 2 IS banned in new zealand, so pretty fucking close
that must've been a very different Australia then. Now days they are essentially full on socialist mode levels of tyranny
@@AverageAlien said by Americans trying to convince themselves their country has any value.
I'm not yet vaxxed and able to do basically anything I want.
@@drumboarder1 Sure you are buddy, I didn't realise the concentration camps have internet access
@@AverageAlien said like a true redditor
This video is so beautifully done. I've watched this about 4 or 5 times since it first came out, and I just keep coming back and not getting bored. This is a gem.
Thanks Man, honoured to keep you coming back
Postal 2 was so progressive for its time. It even had a gay dance bar. With a balcony overlooking the dance floor. Where molotov cocktails spawned ....
Seriously man, I know I'm just another comment out of thousands, but thank you for this. Actually pumped to sink an hour in to this. Best way to start 2022 mate, hope everything's good that way.
Trust me, support for these kinds of videos are not just another comment 😂 really glad to hear it man, hope you enjoy it!
I've found postal 1 to be the most interesting when it comes to its story. It's two completely different interpretations of the events depending on the difficulty was such a good idea. Normal depicting a man relishing in the atrocities he commits and hard, depicting him scared out of his mind fighting for self preservation. There's just a whole lot that they did with 1 to make it more palatable and thought provoking than something like hatred.
Yeah I'm surprised he didn't talk about how the difficulty effectively changes the narrative of the story
Postal 2 does unintentionally pose a philosophical question as to whether you can truly keep your moral stands as tight as Batman if the ease of killing people who themselves are immoral to a seemingly unacceptable degree can you remain a pacifist? For me? It makes me think like serial killer....Not sure if that is more or less as bad as going postal.
I honestly love your theory for the ending of postal 1, it really does tie everything together in probably the most sensical way we could speculate. Might just be a theory, but thats definitely the idea I'm sticking with
Postal 2 is a chaotically hilarious masterpiece, anyone with a good sense of humour knows it’s great.
I fail to see the humor.
@@mr.x6313 then fail to survive
@@mr.x6313 thank God I dont know u
@@user-kw7jc9yv6k Just because we differ on the opinion of a lowbrow trash video game, you don't think it's possible that we could get along? That's rather extreme of you.
@@mr.x6313 dude like omg like can we talk about the political and economical state of the world right now??🤓
Just started the video. Wasn’t expecting an hour long breakdown of Postal, but holy shit am I here for it!
I wasn't expecting legendary Heavy metal!
@@hellion6737 what song was it??
@@phonkwizard7667 I really don't know, I'll let you know once I find it!
Found it! Stands With Fists - That's The Break!
I honestly like the ending of the original first postal the most. It’s dark and like you said glorifies violence, but I find it better for the style of course and the fact that a horrible person of a character just simply ends with him suffering in a ward being studied on.
A sour and dark ending in my opinion just does so much more for leaving you disgusted in a such a great way. Don’t really see any bitter endings anymore
The school level has actually been confirmed to have been a complete hallucination, that's why Postal Dude can't harm them.
Also, Hatred is a funky game.
Postal is the greatest for blowing steam off, no matter what I do, I always return to this game at least once in every couple of years. Never gets me bored. My friend even wrote a short story inspired by Postal. Thanks man for this video, really appreciate it :)
What was the story about?
@@Turbs94945 If you are familiarized with the Postal lore it is clear that the events in the story are taking places far back in the past. Lead character is a unemployed man with two troubled kids(one of them later becoming the Postal dude himself) moving into small town in Midwest finding an under payed job. As things were about the hit the fan he finds a part time job testing new experimental military drug that improves combat capabilities(again if you know the lore it is clear that it is a catnip) Story is full of fowl language violence and all other sorts of politically incorrect stuff. It is called The green cat, life and times of Mike the dude senior. I don't think it is available anywhere now.
@@mongoose8421 That sucks, wish you has a copy to share still
@@MrMeow-dk2tx well there is actually a copy only not in English, maybe I can get my friend to translate it :)
@@mongoose8421 Cool
The whole theory that the Postal 1 player character is Dude’s dad kinda works. Considering the fact that Dude’s dad is the final boss in Postal 4: No Regerts, and it’s also revealed that Dude’s dead “father” in Postal 2 is actually he’s stepfather. The whole pacifist thing introduced in Postal 2 could make sense in the way of, Dude’s dad goes nuts commits the acts he did in Postal 1 and is locked up, (the coffin ending meaning the death of himself to his family), then Dude is sent to live with his mother who finds another man being Dude’s stepfather, Dude is then raised to be normal, however he still has he’s Father’s violent tendencies in him. (It’s a pretty wild theory I know but it kinda makes sense at least too me)
Over here in Germany Postal 2 was never commercially available because our censors really didn't like it. Which only made it so much more appealing to us back in the day. I was a teenager at the time, and Postal 2 was this legendary game everyone talked about at school, but most people didn't even have it and just shared rumors. I remember one dude telling me that one of the missions on the first day is to go to the bakery and buy bread, and you can go postal and kill the baker and then the bread will be splattered with blood and you get to take soggy blood-soaked bread home...
Looks like the "get milk from the store" mission turned into something much more brutal thanks to the rumor mill!
I finally got a pirated copy of the game in the mid-00s and it was hilarious. I expected something way more gruesome, kinda like what Hatred ended up being, but got something with way more humor and less serious violence instead.
But hey, edgy teens who wanna feel badass are gonna brag that they play the MOST VIOLENT GAME EVER that's banned in our country, and embellish the actual scenes from the game to make it seem more extreme than it is.
It's not because our censors didn't like it. They are just a bunch of wusses who have no sense of humour whatsoever.
Some people don't think like this and take it as an offense to the entire world. Such is the flaw of our emotions when we are driven less by common sense and more on brain washing, whether it's deliberate or not.
Ah yes back here to sleep again. The alarm in the Postal 2 opening cutscene means it's time to close my eyes lol
from around 14:07 when talking about the NPC dialogue, I genuinely thought you'd made an IRL voice-typo and said they "are oblivion to ya", however it was "Oblivion-tier"...
absolutely spot on the money there, these games are super underrated. Thank you as always for providing us with such dope content!
The first postal game makes me think of that old amiga game Damage: The sadistic butchering of mankind. On that game your goal is to get to the presidents bunker and use the nukes to kill as many people on earth, obviously on the way killing everyone on the way, From civilians to police and military. The game even have kill counter that just keeps going up as you play.
Jeez, that sounds intense, seem like it has the same vibes, I’ll have to check it out!
Isnt that hatred?
@@nothingtodohere0142 hatred came out 2015 and damage came out 1996.
@@triledink oh i didnt read that amiga part
This is why people hate gamers lol
29:37 That's the CEO of Running With Scissors, that's pretty funny.
One thing I also noticed about the ending of Postal Redux when I played was that at the final level with the church it's displayed that one hostile is present. When the coffin is lowered that number drops to 0, which makes you think where RWS was trying to go with that little detail.
The cut scenes in the first game are actually insanely cool! Kinda remind me of a mix between Darkwood and Cry of Fear.
I agree
Oh wow, a one hour documentary from Totally Pointless TV? Must be my lucky day.
You are not at all slick with that lake oblongata music at 23:00
Edit: this video is lousy with psychonauts music holy shit. This video introduced me to postal and it made me love it. Keep up the good work man
One thing ive never got, even though you technically dont HAVE to kill anyone in Postal 2, you almost have to to survive at least a few of the chores (the steak one and the krotchy one come to mind)
Even then it’s still possible to beat the game without killing anyone to get the pacifist achievement. It’s challenging like you said there’s some spots that you almost have to kill someone.
But you can also just pee on them and run away. And bribe krotchy.
I was starting High School when the first Postal came out. The dark tone didn't sit with me for very long, so I was thrilled with the 2nd game. It was crazy at the time, you could just do missions in whatever order, you could just NOT kill people, and then I got to help Gary Coleman fight the feds. I think they actually did mocap for him. I didn't know about Postal 3 until recently and wow, what a mess. That music from the opening bridge sequence is just so baffling, and it will haunt my dreams.
I know the bridge music makes me think of the music box from raw danger
30:38 Apparently it's because Running With Scissors split from Whiptail Interactive after they breached their contract, so to get back at them, they made this mission. Can't confirm that though, but multiple people have said it. You could probably ask Vince on Twitter.
I never heard of Postal before. I'm 30 and always lived under a rock pretty much though. This sounds right up my alley. Would like to do pacifist runs too just because.
It took me a month to get through the whole week without murdering anyone its easier said then done especially when the ai are such assholes sometimes
@@TheRealRusDaddy Some games like postal and gta make me realise how fucking tipsy I am in games. The slightest annoyance to me results in a bloodbath that I can't explain.
0:35 so postal predicted CYBERPUNK
Whenever I describe Postal 2 to my friends I say "Its a masterpiece and a massive pile of shit and I love it". Its broken, ugly and mean but man is it so much fun and hilarious.
24:47 it’s freaking Waco. Where’s David ‘crispy kids’ Chipman?
TPTV, I just wanted to let you know that this video is actually how I discovered the existence of this franchise (I'm 22 so too young to have known about 2 when it came out)! And you've made me totally fall in love with it. The humor and content is right up my alley plus I love any game that's famous for making parents mad lol. Thanks for the great video! I've watched it multiple times now and it's always fun :D
Same here!
I can tell you one thing, picked up Postal: Brain damaged today and my goodness, I enjoy it alot. The studio did an amazing job with it.
I took Postal serious for about 15 seconds.
Because my first experience of it was a Postal 2 frag montage very similar to that opening in which the player kills a crowd using a variety of weapons.
All the "edge" went away from the cat ass silencer came out along with the pissing.
I think it makes sense about the postal 1 theory considering that he couldn’t kill any of the kids in the primary school AND they were all wearing the same exact clothing and hairstyles and size. They were all just the same exact image of his kid and he couldn’t hurt them. Not to mention the burial for the second ending has postal’s main character and his wife, with his wife revealing she has blonde hair allowing genes to pass down and having her kid with blonde hair as well.
Also if i remember correctly: RWS dev that worked on the postal 1 redux said that he changed the ending because school shooting is more often nowadays and it wouldn't have this much impact on people anymore.
Honestly the only things I can say were good about postal 3 was Corey cruise as postal dude (he did a good job with what he was given but he has since done much better in postal 4 and brain damage so I’m glad they kept him around) the postal dudes design as the brown trench coat with the green alien on the T-shirt with the addition of the fingerless gloves makes for a good design for the dude(they also made it look even better in postal 4). And finally the main theme the country style theme kinda fits in a postal game