The Best Game You Should NOT Play

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    Chapters
    0:00 - Intro
    1:40 - The Game Is Bad
    5:29 - The First Game
    9:57 - The Game Is le Good?
    19:10 - Chapter 1: Welcome to Shanghai
    20:59 - Chapter 2: The Details
    28:13 - Chapter 3: Blood, Sweat and Tears
    37:21 - Chapter 4: Laying Low
    43:57 - Chapter 5: Coming Home
    46:28 - Chapter 6: A Thousand Cuts
    50:57 - Chapter 7: The Deal
    55:57 - Chapter 8: Out of Shanghai
    57:32 - Chapter 9: Airstrike
    1:00:21 - Chapter 10: Resurrection
    1:06:38 - Chapter 11: Out of Shanghai
    1:11:48 - Extreme Difficulty
    1:15:34 - Co-op
    1:19:22 - Multiplayer
    1:29:22 - Outro
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  • @DolanDarker
    @DolanDarker ปีที่แล้ว +38413

    Finally a game that isn't ALL IN LE HEAD

  • @andreasbaras
    @andreasbaras ปีที่แล้ว +12944

    Hi! I was actually the guy who did motion capture for Kane in this game. We did cutscenes and some in game-movements. One of the most fun shoots of my career. I had to lipsync to Brian Bloom, which also is a high point as a gamer as well. Love your work man.

    • @loudris442
      @loudris442 ปีที่แล้ว +615

      That's cool as hell. Great job on your work

    • @acousticwolf5985
      @acousticwolf5985 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      Wow that is amazing!

    • @cityofnewjack
      @cityofnewjack ปีที่แล้ว

      i just searched you up on igdb and is kane and lynch 2 the only game youve ever done work in? its all that shows up so i was curious

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      That's actually pretty cool. Good work!

    • @andreasbaras
      @andreasbaras ปีที่แล้ว +264

      @@cityofnewjack I did some work for the remake of "Syndicate" as well, but I think it was cut. I got paid anyway tho :D

  • @phoenixh5696
    @phoenixh5696 ปีที่แล้ว +14115

    Pyro’s ability to make a widely seen 5/10 game seem like a 10/10 well written masterpiece is always going to be worth spending 2 hours watching

    • @StrikeWarlock
      @StrikeWarlock ปีที่แล้ว +650

      it wasn't just 5/10, K&L2 was straight up 2/10 bad

    • @LazyBuddyBan
      @LazyBuddyBan ปีที่แล้ว +159

      a certified +2 moment

    • @Shenjow6
      @Shenjow6 ปีที่แล้ว +517

      Pyro is a master at storytelling I could listen to his interpretation on games, shows and movies all fking day.

    • @dopyluke9977
      @dopyluke9977 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      I think we could watch pyro talk about anything for hours without getting bored

    • @whisperoftheworm6479
      @whisperoftheworm6479 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      He could make slippin Jimmy seem like a masterpiece

  • @gonzalogutierrez510
    @gonzalogutierrez510 ปีที่แล้ว +3706

    This shows the camera man is truly the most op character

    • @Sergmanny46
      @Sergmanny46 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      No he is not. He died at the end of the game. op characters never die.

    • @randomusserlol
      @randomusserlol ปีที่แล้ว +195

      @@Sergmanny46 hey may have died in this game but his spirt still lives on

    • @Sergmanny46
      @Sergmanny46 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@randomusserlol Ridiculous.

    • @tiolloyd9555
      @tiolloyd9555 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      And show other thing too, even the Camera Man isn't immune to getting 1 shoted during a Cutscene

    • @PrestOGveeh
      @PrestOGveeh ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He never died that is not a gunshot

  • @cassalamon
    @cassalamon ปีที่แล้ว +3402

    All the ideas in this game are genuinely so cool and interesting it just seems like glitches and bugs messed everything up

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      It would be interesting to see a new game do this somehow.

    • @deathgripskaraoke9351
      @deathgripskaraoke9351 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      you got filtered

    • @cassalamon
      @cassalamon ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@deathgripskaraoke9351 i dont know what you mean but cool username

    • @TheReck12
      @TheReck12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And also it's a super short game

    • @metalgearsolid2substance507
      @metalgearsolid2substance507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cassalamon
      Y O U
      G O T
      F I L T E R E D

  • @CoachRoach555
    @CoachRoach555 ปีที่แล้ว +6867

    Then Kane woke up and realized that the entire thing had been in his head and was an allegory for him fighting his demons

    • @joshuadejesus9861
      @joshuadejesus9861 ปีที่แล้ว +353

      And Kane was in his head

    • @DefinitelyNotATrolldier
      @DefinitelyNotATrolldier ปีที่แล้ว +304

      And that He actually killed Lynch at the end of the first game

    • @LNCsunny
      @LNCsunny ปีที่แล้ว +104

      And that this was another dream from Jenny

    • @a.b.3455
      @a.b.3455 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I was actually thinking that Kane was schizophrenic and was only imagine Lynch (or the other way around)

    • @joshuadejesus9861
      @joshuadejesus9861 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@a.b.3455 I think we have the names mixed up but who cares it’s a shit game anyways

  • @donavenhollow5709
    @donavenhollow5709 ปีที่แล้ว +5438

    The developers really tried. You can tell. I admire them for not making it a total cash grab and something interesting even if its still not overall good.

    • @rooster3752
      @rooster3752 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Oh my science its a pyro giveaway

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      I always gotta wonder about them putting Kane and Lynch in Hitman 3 as them hoping to one day return to these shitters.

    • @caol1198
      @caol1198 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tonypeppermint5329 do they actually make an appearance or is it just the skins for Agent 47?

    • @BcGhosted
      @BcGhosted ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@caol1198 they make a appearance

    • @theoneandonlyjim902
      @theoneandonlyjim902 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rooster3752 Pure and utter _allegiance_ to atheism, I agree.

  • @archiebf4524
    @archiebf4524 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    Let's be honest Kane & Lynch were probably the inspiration for Michael & Trevor

    • @3rdStreetAVolitionite
      @3rdStreetAVolitionite ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I even make Michael and Trevor look like Kane and Lynch.

    • @aceambling7685
      @aceambling7685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      I wouldnt be surprised, though obviously GTA5 also takes a lot of inspiration from the movie Heat.

    • @SuckItDown
      @SuckItDown 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@aceambling7685 So Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, the game totally feels like a Michael Mann movie.

    • @ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012
      @ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, both are bank robbers and their tropes are similar

    • @pelago_
      @pelago_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ooh great point

  • @severalcakes3267
    @severalcakes3267 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +384

    The guys who played Hsing (both voice and mocap) frickin’ killed it, I can’t get enough of his performance. Such a smug little monster, who turns the whole story on its head with just two words: “Shangsi’s daughter.”

    • @MyLifeIsAFrickingMess_MRPOLSKA
      @MyLifeIsAFrickingMess_MRPOLSKA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      "Shong Siiis daahtur"

    • @severalcakes3267
      @severalcakes3267 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@MyLifeIsAFrickingMess_MRPOLSKA Well, that’s how it’s pronounced in Mandarin 😏

    • @MyLifeIsAFrickingMess_MRPOLSKA
      @MyLifeIsAFrickingMess_MRPOLSKA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@severalcakes3267 i still find it funny

    • @tommyblade8093
      @tommyblade8093 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      that guy who slit his throat and how glazer freaked out about hsing really terrified me. 😂

  • @ZeAshTonz
    @ZeAshTonz ปีที่แล้ว +2070

    The unceremonious death of Shangsi really underscored the game’s nihilism. Even a man as powerful as him isn’t immune to a chaotic and indifferent world.

    • @diegodunn-humphrey512
      @diegodunn-humphrey512 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      agreed

    • @genoob5843
      @genoob5843 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      I mean what do you expect, his whole army isn’t there by his side anymore and it’s just Kane, lynch and him. He ain’t gonna be pulling a metal gear revengeance and transforming into some robot and initiating a boss fight.

    • @sinko3811
      @sinko3811 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      I also love how (with the game building him up) in your head, you probably make him out to be this big, evil politician, who you can tell is evil from a mile away. And then it turns out he's really just some guy...

    • @capperbuns
      @capperbuns ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@genoob5843 when did someone turned into a robot in revengeance?

    • @bazingar3444
      @bazingar3444 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@capperbuns when “nano machines son” happened

  • @Psikiks
    @Psikiks ปีที่แล้ว +451

    37:45 This is one of the many cases where Pyro's script-writing comes out to shine. He sets up the context and then the surprise that Kane and Lynch get is equally as surprising for us because it cuts into the middle of his sentence.

    • @AgentWolnyTyl3k
      @AgentWolnyTyl3k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Also the subtitles have full sentence, when Pyro gets actually kind off cut off at the end

    • @LowIntSpecimen
      @LowIntSpecimen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@AgentWolnyTyl3k I wish more media would do that, to actually keep the surprise

  • @Iheartlolapenniburg
    @Iheartlolapenniburg ปีที่แล้ว +1244

    A remake of this game would be sick, especially if it was giving some true TLC

  • @hotsaucehysteria
    @hotsaucehysteria ปีที่แล้ว +1971

    I absolutely love how this game feels like a snuff film. The blurring of the heads is just so god damn unnerving. I would love to see a horror game take advantage of it, making it feel like you're watching a leaked video on the internet.

    • @somerandomkid9976
      @somerandomkid9976 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      ever played manhunt?

    • @cavemancult1999
      @cavemancult1999 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      @@somerandomkid9976 Ayeee, I'd say Manhunt is definitely a lot more comical than this, this actually feels like a genuine snuff film about survival.

    • @kimkillillasfuq8212
      @kimkillillasfuq8212 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@cavemancult1999 maybe a version of manhunt on the latest Rockstar engine? Remove the hud, add camera effects, spring for extra quality on the sound mixing like the first manhunt. It'd probably be pretty good. Red Dead can already get kinda spooky with serial killers and cultists.

    • @Terminated_Account
      @Terminated_Account ปีที่แล้ว +117

      @@kimkillillasfuq8212 sadly rockstar is kinda shit now and take two probably doesn't have the balls to do another manhunt

    • @danin900
      @danin900 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@cavemancult1999 Manhunt is not more comical than this. It just comes from a different era. This is inspired by LiveLeak, Manhunt comes from stuff like Faces of Death.
      Both sensationalist, but different because they're in different, but similar, mediums.

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan ปีที่แล้ว +3090

    Gotta say, the voice acting in this game is pretty damn good. For how shoddy everything else is, the VAs really gave it their all.

    • @X3RNEA5
      @X3RNEA5 ปีที่แล้ว +287

      For me I just LOVE the camera details
      It FEELS like a disgusting snuff film!

    • @SivvieSivv4173
      @SivvieSivv4173 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      @@X3RNEA5 Yo, don't mean to sound like I'm advertising or anything but did you know there's a community server to this game? It's pretty active too. If you ever just wanna hang around and find people who are into the game just like you are or just finding people to play fragile alliance with than the server is probably for you.

    • @memeityy
      @memeityy ปีที่แล้ว +76

      VAs
      Vas
      The definition of insanity

    • @penguindomino9461
      @penguindomino9461 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@X3RNEA5 The game IS disgusting. And that's why I love it.

    • @X3RNEA5
      @X3RNEA5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@penguindomino9461 Yup!

  • @warbossgegguz679
    @warbossgegguz679 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    8:43 For the record, just in case you're morbidly curious and still want to play Dead Men, it also has a GOG release with 0 DRM.

    • @Adagm
      @Adagm ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Played it before watching this, I'd say that the only time I thought it was cool, was at the club, the prison and the skyscraper
      Then I stopped playing at the start of the jungle mission.
      3/10, It's passable.

    • @blakefieldmalcolm5638
      @blakefieldmalcolm5638 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The GOG release rocks. I also have the discontinued steam version. I can say both versions are completely equal to the best of my knowledge

  • @blackburn1489
    @blackburn1489 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    - So, how do you like Kane and Lynch 2, Pyrocynical?
    - It's fucked, I hate it
    - Yeah, I love it too

  • @DahcipheR
    @DahcipheR ปีที่แล้ว +1345

    Absolutely loved the balls IO had at the time to make their characters just utterly repulsive humans rather than cool/appealing chads. This game was rough around the edges in every aspect and has a memorable uniqueness to it, despite the repetitive shoot/cover gameplay.

    • @John-996
      @John-996 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      I think Rockstar making Manhunt opened up allot of doors For other devs to see how far they could push things.

    • @DahcipheR
      @DahcipheR ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@John-996 An absolute banger of a game!

    • @CadgerChristmasLightShow
      @CadgerChristmasLightShow ปีที่แล้ว +41

      As a person who actually played kane and lynch back when these games were new, I fully agree. Something about these two titles stood out to me more than most other games of the time, especially the second one. The super gritty analog video camera style just drew me in and made me want to play to the end. Granted I never really played either game more than maybe 10-20 hours each. It's a one time good experience just for the visual style and the story.

    • @jockeyfield1954
      @jockeyfield1954 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      legit, while watching this video, i expected myself to see kane and lynch as if they're cool anti-hero criminals like walter white or the gta 5 crew, but these people were just horrible. they had little redeeming qualities, were barely friends, and weren't even super skilled or smart to make them seem cool. they were downright disgusting human beings that you follow throughout your whole playthrough. it's a very unexpected, yet welcomed change of pace. i'm tired of people idolizing heisenberg and michael townley. give us more POS protagonists, please

    • @DahcipheR
      @DahcipheR ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@jockeyfield1954 Beautifully put. The scenarios in-game are terrible and only work because the players do.

  • @etan7852
    @etan7852 ปีที่แล้ว +2496

    The surreal and quick ending also adds to the style of this game rather than a big climactic finish it just ends because this isnt a grand story its just an excerpt from these horrible mens lives

    • @DefiniteRicardo
      @DefiniteRicardo ปีที่แล้ว +166

      I just felt like the camera man raged quit because he was left behind :(

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DefiniteRicardo fucking guy recorded the guys bare assholes the whole game, survived multiple ambushes and gunfights only to be told to fuck off by the both of his clients. The dude needs to find better career choices

    • @HandjobHandsome
      @HandjobHandsome ปีที่แล้ว

      its literally a fucking rip off of heat except heat is actually good, like nothing they did was original this game is dogshit

    • @2013HORSEMEATSCANDAL
      @2013HORSEMEATSCANDAL ปีที่แล้ว +60

      As I see it it's kind of the same way gore videos this game takes inspiration of end too. You don't get an epilogue with all those people you just watch em suffer and it's over

    • @bigbeau1758
      @bigbeau1758 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@2013HORSEMEATSCANDAL No? One ends because it's a depraved lunatic literally killing someone so there can be no lunatic
      The other whilst about depraved lunatics was ended stylistically as opposed to there being no way to continue

  • @user-yy5dm5qr3g
    @user-yy5dm5qr3g 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +193

    seeing him use the cruelty squad enhancements as an example in 18:30 has a weird feeling rewatching this now

    • @fygygufyufyyfhchcxgxy4290
      @fygygufyufyyfhchcxgxy4290 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      So it wasn't just me.

    • @Chewberto
      @Chewberto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Especially telling was the part at the end that flashed "DIVINE LIGHT SOON" over his webcam

    • @Eric0225
      @Eric0225 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      he also used the Cruelty Squad OST early on in the video

    • @engineeringsentry6625
      @engineeringsentry6625 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Reminds me of a similar thing. Where in an old review (specifically tall girl one) he criticizes it’s use of corner shots without any reason, using footage of Utopia as an example of why such shots are used.

  • @deadbread8446
    @deadbread8446 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    It is clear that there was not enough money, experience and time, but this is one of the most stylish gangster shooters - complete destructibility of the interior, the coolest plot, the atmosphere of a rainy dirty city in which they are trying to corner you.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I know right ? Ever since I played the Kowloon mission in COD Black Ops 1 (and explored the multiplayer version of said map). I found this weird love for such aesthetics (dark grey sky with fog/smog everywhere and raining, neon signs written in Chinese or Japanese, buildings that are in need of maintenance, etc.)

  • @IICubeII
    @IICubeII ปีที่แล้ว +3753

    I unironically love the concept of the multiplayer. Rob a bank, store, etc. Everyone could work together and split the money. Or you can betray your team members to get all the cash. Either way, if anyone dies, they become a cop that tries to end the criminals run.
    It was kinda poorly executed, but I'd love to see someone give it another try.

    • @torenchao
      @torenchao ปีที่แล้ว +105

      mhm! it's a lot like the scp game loop, which is proven to be very fun!

    • @sakaturaus7373
      @sakaturaus7373 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      sub rosa is kinda like that but its dead

    • @virkallon1884
      @virkallon1884 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​Hood: Outlaw and Legends fits the bill in setup and gameplay but also dead

    • @UshankaMaster
      @UshankaMaster ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is there anything like this in gmod

    • @Jojje94
      @Jojje94 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Me and my friends plan to try making Fragile Alliance for S&box. No promises but hey, keep an eye out

  • @zetrosky2951
    @zetrosky2951 ปีที่แล้ว +1026

    Here's what I think happened. The development team was told that they had a very short amount of time to create a sequel to a mid-received game, just as a cash grab. They knew that their game would be full of bugs with not a lot of time to test it or fix bugs, so they decided to focus on the story. They create a well written story with a clever aesthetic.

    • @Bale4Bond
      @Bale4Bond ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What is especially clever about this game's story?

    • @turithian960
      @turithian960 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      @@Bale4Bond "clever aesthetic"
      learn to read lol

    • @Bale4Bond
      @Bale4Bond ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@turithian960 well it isn't well written either, if you want to be technical about it.

    • @TheDoc_K
      @TheDoc_K ปีที่แล้ว +141

      @@Bale4Bond My brother in Christ did you even WATCH the 2hour video we're commenting on?

    • @LEOTomegane
      @LEOTomegane ปีที่แล้ว +78

      the story isn't _that_ good, it's very much a mid-tier action movie type thing
      however, it embraces itself wholeheartedly which makes it _entertaining,_ even if it's not objectively good.

  • @richardsavings6690
    @richardsavings6690 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Credit where it's due. I don't really KNOW the two characters and I don't really want to know them personally. But I do feel sympathy for them just trying to make ANY possible scenario work in their favour and constantly getting shit all over. And my heart breaks when I hear Lynch barely managing to keep it together. The storytelling is definitely the best part. Simple, but effective.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I like how Eidos made the characters
      They're completely terrible, yet they're aware of what they're doing and hoping it will go in their way

  • @electrolyteblend
    @electrolyteblend ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I love that at 10:14 you use some music from cruelty Squad to accompany your statement "it looks filthy. it has this amazing visual style I've never seen in a video game."

  • @bruhman5829
    @bruhman5829 ปีที่แล้ว +1596

    the “lynch i’m here” line during the psychotic episode was oddly touching

    • @queue.2312
      @queue.2312 ปีที่แล้ว +214

      yeah i was thinking the same thing it made me smile while they’re literally fighting for their life in the middle of a warzone

    • @disc0carp3t
      @disc0carp3t ปีที่แล้ว +58

      it's at 32:19 for those who haven't gotten to it :D

  • @naoxi9673
    @naoxi9673 ปีที่แล้ว +994

    The secret ending: the characters figure out they are just figments of a dog's imagination, and the whole game takes place in le dog head

    • @theterribleanimator1793
      @theterribleanimator1793 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      plot twist: Its the dog from rhorshack's backstory.

    • @_Tozzie_
      @_Tozzie_ ปีที่แล้ว +22

      what da dog doin

    • @Marksman_12
      @Marksman_12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the dog is taking the toll of hot summer days, you know because the idiom dog days meaning a period of hot weather.

    • @anotherguy687
      @anotherguy687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no, it’s a dog’s dream because it’s a sleeping dog

    • @Marksman_12
      @Marksman_12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan ปีที่แล้ว +86

    This game really did the "the cameraman's the real hero for surviving all this" joke but played it completely straight, huh?

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Also subverting expectations for "the cameraman never dies" joke

  • @HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar
    @HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar ปีที่แล้ว +199

    "I want this game to be more realistic"
    -Lynch being able to one-hand a LMG and fire it with barely any recoil
    -Kane surviving infinite gunshots, but being knocked out by a light elbow from Lynch
    -Surviving getting cut open in like 2000000 places
    -Surviving a helicopter crash
    -Probably more stuff but I haven't finished the video yet

    • @trianglemoebius
      @trianglemoebius 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      I'm a bit late, but most of that stuff can be written off as gameplay/story dissonance. It's like how Mario can die from a single touch by a Goomba because otherwise the gameplay wouldn't be challenging, but this is never acknowledged because it's not *technically* part of the universe.
      As for the surviving the knives, that's actually realistic. Chinese crimelords use a torture technique called Lingchi. Basically, it's a method of knowing where to cut to maximise pain but cause as little blood loss as possible - basically, avoiding all major blood vessels - so the victim will bleed out over a handful of extremely painful days (or even longer, since the lack of severe blood loss prevents clotting). An absolutely horrible way to go, but that's kind of the point. It's what they're referencing when they say the one guy is "good with a knife".
      The Helicopter? I've got nothing. I guess it's just luck.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@trianglemoebius yeah, atleast the torture scene can be written off with that, and as for the helicopter the luck part depends on how close they were on the rooftop of Shangsi's tower

    • @pabloveloso7736
      @pabloveloso7736 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@trianglemoebius Ok. I shouldn't have googled it before going to sleep.

    • @ineedzemedic5810
      @ineedzemedic5810 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pabloveloso7736i was curious to look it up. Now that you tell me. I dont think i should.

    • @thesquirtof8759
      @thesquirtof8759 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OperatorMax1993 i think at that tail point of the story it's trying to make some meta point that the universe just allows Kane and Lynch to survive any bullshit scenario and the twist is that they'll never take advantage of it and constantly make it worse which is honestly a cool way to think about it

  • @d00gz_
    @d00gz_ ปีที่แล้ว +1463

    I like games that are extreme violence like this. Not “extreme violence” like Doom or Mortal Kombat where there’s tons of gore and killing, but games that are gritty and oppressive to the point of putting a disturbed pit in the player’s stomach as they play. Something that shows such a sad grey underbelly of society that is rarely spotlighted in entertainment media. Such a brutal level of realism that the viewer doesn’t even really want to acknowledge that it exists in reality.
    It’s rare to see media take on these themes because of how it puts much of the audience off, but when done right it provides one of the most immersive and emotional environments one can see in films or games. Kane and Lynch might not be a good game all together, but it absolutely nailed the oppressive atmosphere and theme of the criminal underworld and how it affects people.

    • @ZeyTheDaemon
      @ZeyTheDaemon ปีที่แล้ว +72

      This is how I feel about it too. This game isn't good from a lot of standpoints but it nails down the gritty, seedy world. All the grey, monotone colors that remind you that you will NEVER get out to some beautiful landscapes in China, but will be stuck in the same hellhole for the entire game. I could kind of see it being turned into a B-movie, but I dunno who would play Kane and Lynch. It's little things in this game that I absolutely love, and it's a shame it basically wasn't finished and is a janky mess. I suppose that gives it more charm oddly enough, but would be nice to see if it was fully fleshed out.

    • @jacksonw453
      @jacksonw453 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Max Payne 3 has a similar vibe as well, though not quite this dark

    • @peepeepoopoovdbhxvbcc6683
      @peepeepoopoovdbhxvbcc6683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Le Fortnite 🫡

    • @RainCloudVideos
      @RainCloudVideos ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@jacksonw453 A decent amount of the music in parts of this video we’re from Max Payne 3.

    • @dragonace119
      @dragonace119 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There's a game thats pretty close to it. Look up the game "Ready or Not" some of the maps are just incredibly disturbing if you look around.

  • @kimballmadsen5057
    @kimballmadsen5057 ปีที่แล้ว +922

    I love that shangsi died by lynch because I think he finally really genuinely decided that he didn’t want anymore jobs. He wanted that to be his last job whereas Kane never truly could have given it up

    • @SlopHunter333
      @SlopHunter333 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      I agree with this so hard. Xui's death hit him hard man. The kinda death that changes a person

    • @Marksman_12
      @Marksman_12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Their attitudes toward continuing their evil trade is in contrast to the first game in Dog Days. Kane wanted to retire in the first one whereas Lynch was in high spirits and optimistic that he could do a whole lot. By the end of the second game, Lynch is ready to retire having lost everything, whereas Kane is still waiting for that "one more job".

    • @Marksman_12
      @Marksman_12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *contrast to the first game.

  • @shinydewott
    @shinydewott ปีที่แล้ว +53

    15:55 Kinda sneaky to have a game with 2 endings that both make you want to pick the other one. It's an interesting way to extend the playtime of your game lol

  • @XxResident_PipsxX
    @XxResident_PipsxX ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I haven't watched Pyro in years. He's dropping over an hour long full analysis videos of both popular and unpopular games. I gotta respect how much work goes into these especially with the editing.

  • @macmcdover1599
    @macmcdover1599 ปีที่แล้ว +1690

    This games story is actually fantastic and brutal, i felt like i was playing a movie from start to finish. no other game really has that consistent feeling though it's entire run time. If it was polished and given a bigger budget it would probably be one of my favorite campaigns in a game ever.

    • @libragod3077
      @libragod3077 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Mgs 3

    • @aliyan247
      @aliyan247 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@libragod3077 lel

    • @beemelonhead1
      @beemelonhead1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Play Sekiro.

    • @sauce9401
      @sauce9401 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yakuza?

    • @__lasevix_
      @__lasevix_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine if we got a remake of it

  • @uju509
    @uju509 ปีที่แล้ว +2142

    The concept of everything being filmed from a camera is a decent concept, especially for a videogame. You know what would be incredible, a game where you play as journalist wearing go-pro and investigating a warzone, collecting footage, navigating your way through the carnage and interviewing soldiers and civilians. Like a survival horror, you don't have any means to defend yourself and so you have to rely on stealth and running to progress. the grainy footage, the inconsistent audio quality and blood splattering on the camera, could add to gritty realism of the game.

    • @justaguyonyoutube4592
      @justaguyonyoutube4592 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      So basically Outlast then.

    • @uju509
      @uju509 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      @@justaguyonyoutube4592 Sort of but in Outlast your camcorder is nothing more then a tool, you can choose to use it but it is not required, you're still playing from the perspective of Miles Upshur/ Waylon Park/Blake Langermann. In my suggestion you will always be seeing what is being recorded and nothing else, there could even be cutscenes where the camera falls off and you watch the journalist looking for it or picking it up and strapping it back on, there may also be scene transitions where the camera freezes or cuts to black before continuing. Whereas outlast is a survival horror game my idea would be more like found footage movies such as Cloverfield or the Blair Witch Project.
      In fact as I was typing this I just learned that this found footage style of gameplay has actually been done before, most of these games seem to be based on the backrooms or just general creepiness, isolationism or fear of the unknown. I was recommending something that plays off the barbarity and cruelty of war.

    • @aimanar
      @aimanar ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Spiderman did it with MJ's mission and people don't really enjoy it

    • @therealpopculturepizza
      @therealpopculturepizza ปีที่แล้ว +35

      That sounds like Michigan: Report from hell

    • @cookieface80
      @cookieface80 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@therealpopculturepizza The Suda game that time forgot.

  • @cavemancult1999
    @cavemancult1999 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think the easter egg of Kane being in prison writing to his daughter is a reference to the first game as he looks way younger and he's on a prison bus (assumingly being transported to the big house before his execution) compared to the much older version of Kane you see in dog days. So Hitman probably takes place before the events of Dog Days

  • @ericfieldman
    @ericfieldman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Another neat detail is that the muzzle flashes on some guns are caught at different stages, either first coming out of the gun or residual with the light not touching the muzzle anymore. Although if they wanted full realism, the flashes would only appear within horizontal strips to mimic shutter speeds.

  • @lilith7955
    @lilith7955 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    honestly as someone who had a father who was a big drug dealer and went to prison a lot, he's been locked up again recently lol, the whole writing to ur kid multiple times and the multiple apologies for continuing to fall back into crime is very much real.

    • @Ana-fm4op
      @Ana-fm4op ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Not as tragic as yours, but it sort of reminds me of my alcoholic family members saying sorry, relapsing, going sober, relapsing, and the cycle goes on.

    • @kimkillillasfuq8212
      @kimkillillasfuq8212 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Lol, imagine shitty family members actually apologizing for victimizing their loved ones. I'm joking of course, but only slightly, I usually see denial and callousness. Denial on my own father's part, but I've seen people just not care. I used to constantly trash my exes mom for being one of the greasiest, sleaziest, nasty, irresponsible wastes of organic material I ever had the intense displeasure of meeting. Top 3 at least, but she's a Saint way she tells. Doesn't understand why her daughter wouldn't care for the woman who briefly considered selling her to pay off a drug debt. The world honestly would really be better without some people in it.

    • @MomJeans1738
      @MomJeans1738 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Dad in prison?!?!? That's a Pyro reference 😱😱😱

    • @promethium-145
      @promethium-145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man, I'm sorry to hear that. This doesn't have to do with alcohol or prison, but my siblings and I grew up under a nanny who (I'm 99 percent confident) was emotionally abusive. But unlike many abusers in their cycle, she never apologized for anything she did. I can't remember EVER hearing her say the words "I'm sorry". She also violated our privacy often, which probably made me subconsciously scared of trusting others. Abuse should be taken far more seriously; CPS and Social Services need to actually listen to people, and not just adults.

    • @promethium-145
      @promethium-145 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MomJeans1738 I know this is a serious thread, but your comment, username and PFP all made me laugh. Thanks. 😂

  • @thekilla1234
    @thekilla1234 ปีที่แล้ว +759

    The fact that this game isn't all in the character's head makes me believe this entire video is all in my head.

    • @notgray88
      @notgray88 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      What if Pyro is just in our heads?

    • @Dan280974
      @Dan280974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@notgray88 oh god not again!

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      wtf is this game i thought we were gonna get cruelty squad

    • @Mox1990
      @Mox1990 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@notgray88 wtf is a pyro. This is just a one hour vid with no commentary, occasionally cutting to an empty room

  • @maturememory
    @maturememory ปีที่แล้ว +99

    This was a super experimental game, especially for the time. If it was an indie studio it'd be praised.

  • @critlv972
    @critlv972 ปีที่แล้ว +781

    I remember downloading this game’s demo around its’ release date and staring at the menus for like 10 minutes straight thinking that graphics can’t get any more realistic

    • @Klim04
      @Klim04 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hahahahaha lmaooooooo

    • @dandelijon9173
      @dandelijon9173 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I had that feeling when I first booted up far cry 4 on xbox 360, good days

    • @fnutek3720
      @fnutek3720 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dandelijon9173 4 on 360? Isn't far cry 4 way after xbox one?

    • @kroaat
      @kroaat ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fnutek3720 nope only about a year later, and games were still made available for the 360 up until the end of 2015

    • @critlv972
      @critlv972 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fnutek3720 it was released like 5 months after PS4s and Xones came out so there was a 360 version and it was a rancid POS (just like far cry 3 tbh)

  • @Fuer64
    @Fuer64 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    Cameraman just following them and probably being hunted too while 100% silent is a complete gigachad moment

    • @Kadett-rr7ry
      @Kadett-rr7ry ปีที่แล้ว

      too bad he (probably) died
      but died like a god damn KING

    • @burgerfan1
      @burgerfan1 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Just be the cameraman

  • @user-by8gf3oq5w
    @user-by8gf3oq5w 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Im shocked I did not see a comment about this but in 29:10, Tommy gets killed kicking the door down instead of opening and checking it just like how Lynch would, so if Tommy was not there, Lynch would have been shot dead in that doorway as a result of his aggressiveness.

  • @libertyprime7911
    @libertyprime7911 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    1:19:44 "a critical shortage of ADHD medication" is the best phrase I've heard all week.

  • @darthvader7684
    @darthvader7684 ปีที่แล้ว +1508

    I really like what the death of the camera man adds. You've been seeing through him the whole time, and he has been with Kane and Lynch the entire time, but they hijack the plane still only thinknig about themselves, taking the airplane and leaving the camera man to die

    • @johnfrock7206
      @johnfrock7206 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +213

      It really shows how selfish and horrible Kane and Iynch are and always have been which is the perfect way to end the game

    • @aidanschooley7052
      @aidanschooley7052 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@johnfrock7206aye that’s their character and that’s what makes them cool and unique characters

    • @josephpercy8772
      @josephpercy8772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      ​@@aidanschooley7052Unique? Yes. Cool? No. Lol

    • @aidanschooley7052
      @aidanschooley7052 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josephpercy8772 bruh stfu they are fictional characters they are made for entertainment it ain’t that deep

    • @anotherguy687
      @anotherguy687 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cool in the sense that they're very bravely written, maybe. like, it takes BALLS to write people as shitty as these guys and just have it out there. no bullshit. they're just awful.@@josephpercy8772

  • @Hamun002
    @Hamun002 ปีที่แล้ว +473

    The Bullpup SMGs used in the restaurant firefight in chapter 4 are used essentially by the equivalent of SWAT teams in China. Considering how much death and destruction they've wrought, you don't need to be corrupt anything to sic these guys on Kane and Lynch. This is just what would realistically happen.

    • @indianaliam1
      @indianaliam1 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Shangsi had to have had some doing in it, although yes, the equivalent to SWAT would've been on them like flies to crap in real life. In real life, they probably would have died

    • @Hamun002
      @Hamun002 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@indianaliam1 we aren’t even told what part of the party Shangsi is from. He would be involved eventually but at this point it’s not out of the realm of reality that he doesn’t even know Kane & Lynch killed his daughter. They’re obviously involved and it would be very likely he knows that, but he would probably have them detained at that point instead of executed.
      It’s been a while so I might have forgotten a plot point. Forgive me if I’m wrong.

  • @Camothor10
    @Camothor10 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    If they did a remake of this game i truly believe it would be accepted very well the story seems pretty good and the gritty handheld aesthetic is awesome and unique

    • @wadejg_blaze0n213
      @wadejg_blaze0n213 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      well, these guys made Hitman III, so if anyone can do it, it’ll be them

  • @TheEngineerYTDS
    @TheEngineerYTDS ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This game was a fever dream on acid when I played it as a teenager. The Shakey camera and VHS tape filter hurt my eyes.

  • @justafurrywithinternet317
    @justafurrywithinternet317 ปีที่แล้ว +932

    I love how 2 minutes in you can see that pyro has 75% of all achievements in "Tribal hunter". For those unaware Tribal hunter is a furry inflation game.

    • @awesomedude2556
      @awesomedude2556 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Lmao well, people have their kinks, no point in making fun of them for it

    • @capncrispypoo9342
      @capncrispypoo9342 ปีที่แล้ว +323

      @@awesomedude2556 Making fun of kinks IS my kink

    • @vladtheeater
      @vladtheeater ปีที่แล้ว +143

      It is absolutely a furry inflation game but it is also a legitimately great Metroidvania.

    • @guffingtonreal
      @guffingtonreal ปีที่แล้ว +30

      It's actually a fun game too

    • @dunkleham
      @dunkleham ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Everyone knows it by now, I just think Pyro's got a good sense of humor about it

  • @moastew1140
    @moastew1140 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    Hearing Chinese adult contemporary music being played over a violent fever dream is probably one of the best things

    • @skebapplejefferiso308
      @skebapplejefferiso308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you know what the song is though?

    • @moastew1140
      @moastew1140 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@skebapplejefferiso308 unfortunately not

    • @skebapplejefferiso308
      @skebapplejefferiso308 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@moastew1140 get this
      It's in le head

    • @skebapplejefferiso308
      @skebapplejefferiso308 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It was funnier in my head I'm sorry

    • @meik1934
      @meik1934 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@skebapplejefferiso308 Samantha's Rest · Treyarch

  • @chancehay7635
    @chancehay7635 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i love how hes walking around physically in pain from the air hitting the cuts as he moves and the rain nice lil detail

  • @lordrj4203
    @lordrj4203 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    33:25
    Funny thing is Nolan North has voice acted for most if not every Halloween character/thing that can speak in tf2
    Lol
    Like there was a joke that anytime Halloween arrives
    Valves calls for Nolan to voice

  • @nd_kui1772
    @nd_kui1772 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    Just by how gritty the story and aesthetics are, I wish we could see a third game. This game actually made me feel uncomfortable at times. The story allowed for so many gnarly set pieces. I love it. No matter how terrible the gameplay is. The story and dialogue kept me invested. So many good games with good gameplay almost feel mindless because the story isn't triggering any real emotion outside of "sad" or "content." It just makes the game be highlighted in very specific sections, "That one sad moment" or "When you finally reached the goal." Kane and Lynch had more than just those moments even through gameplay. Im glad the developers of these games tried to make you feel uncomfortable and grossed out. We need more games like that.

    • @Joosher56
      @Joosher56 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      If the game was less buggy and had better gameplay it would probably be a lot better since that’s where most of its problems lie

    • @knorkstea606
      @knorkstea606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just by how griddy
      😍

  • @Willzyyy
    @Willzyyy ปีที่แล้ว +623

    The camera effects, especially the pixelating of head shots really added to the raw, nasty vibe of the game. Loved it's atmosphere as it was so unapologetically dark...which is refreshing! Glad you mentioned Lynch's mumbling he occasionally does during shootouts, especially later on as stress levels increase as it still highlights his fragile mind and that the whole "psycho outbursts" aspect in the previous game wasn't forgotten. Always nice to see videos praising aspects of this game. :)

    • @MrLyosea
      @MrLyosea ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Nice seeing you here Willzyyy, you got good taste! Pyro that is, not Kane and Lynch. Always liked your gta vids back in early TH-cam.

  • @user-zp3qy9ww9n
    @user-zp3qy9ww9n ปีที่แล้ว +23

    R.I.P cameraman you will never be forgotten

  • @multi.instrumentalist
    @multi.instrumentalist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    58:07 listen for the Wilhelm scream when they push him out of the ‘copter. Smh.

  • @nokafe6667
    @nokafe6667 ปีที่แล้ว +738

    The style of the game and how frantic and grimy the entire experience is, unlike other cover shooters, hell even horror games, the entire premise and tone of the game makes the player feel like a victim, casualty, or a bag, a expendable stray that can be stabbed, shot, or be p*ssed on in a dog eat dog world.

    • @Thomas_Angelo
      @Thomas_Angelo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It makes me feel like I'm looking at max payne 3

    • @BetaBreaking
      @BetaBreaking ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Thomas_Angelo this game is what Max Payne 3 wanted to be

  • @Filthma
    @Filthma ปีที่แล้ว +635

    Having heard about what it's like, I played this whole game in one sitting really drunk on rum. It honestly made it even more of a confusing nightmarish experience, 10/10 gaming moment.

    • @patrickprofonde7062
      @patrickprofonde7062 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Try Max Payne 3 while on bourbon
      100 % pain but it's the way to go !

    • @toegobbler7449
      @toegobbler7449 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@patrickprofonde7062 I'll take you up on that offer and get back to you once i finish it

    • @sunriseparrabellum5505
      @sunriseparrabellum5505 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      honestly seems like a very appropriate way to play this game

    • @patrickprofonde7062
      @patrickprofonde7062 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cheers!

    • @yourname6614
      @yourname6614 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why specifically rum? Are there any unlisted status effects I am unaware of?

  • @nicck
    @nicck ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think it's fairly obvious that Michael and Trevor from GTAV were stolen from this

    • @ammagon4519
      @ammagon4519 ปีที่แล้ว

      This exactly, money hungry man with a family who's slightly unhinged, and a mentally ill man who's a bit emotional still here and there.

    • @owyemen9367
      @owyemen9367 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And franklin is the cameraman

    • @ejm1225
      @ejm1225 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *shamelessly stolen

    • @tikalthewhimsicott2736
      @tikalthewhimsicott2736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ejm1225three years later

  • @Dammitimmad
    @Dammitimmad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    18:36 This man put a teaser and we didn't even know it

    • @lmno567
      @lmno567 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That clever lesbian...

  • @haarold_
    @haarold_ ปีที่แล้ว +519

    For anyone asking, the thumbnail was changed due to Pyro initially running an event in his server for a new thumbnail as it wasn't grabbing enough attention. The competition was scrapped for the current one that one of his editors showed him.

    • @firechicken1745
      @firechicken1745 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks for the context. I saw the new thumbnail and was wondering "wait that event ended already?"

    • @haarold_
      @haarold_ ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@firechicken1745 It's a shame too, I was happy with my submission and it was nice to see so much creativity, albeit some thumbnails were obviously bad on purpose. I would rather the thumbnail be from the event and be something related to the video rather than the current one, but it's not my channel lol.

    • @Argi1000
      @Argi1000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it's normal nowadays that TH-camrs change the thumbnail few times depending on the viewing statistics. Normal marketing I guess.

    • @soupcangaming662
      @soupcangaming662 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dayum

  • @roboknobthesnob
    @roboknobthesnob ปีที่แล้ว +879

    The thing is that both games had cool ideas. The first one was an interesting twist to the classic buddy cop story and the second one had a cool art direction. With a better budget and (a lot) more polish, they could’ve been cult pulp games.
    Thankfully, Deadly Premonition scratches that itch

    • @fuki999
      @fuki999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it does ? lmao

  • @Skjoldulfr93
    @Skjoldulfr93 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This was a massive nostalgia trip. Damn.

  • @dropflop5625
    @dropflop5625 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    1:24:37 Bro got Lynch to join Cops & Robbers 💀

  • @VoermanIdiot
    @VoermanIdiot ปีที่แล้ว +414

    I still think that the execution scene from Kane and Lynch 1, when his wife gets killed and Kane just absolutely snaps is one of the best instances of GENUINE anger voice acted into a game to date. It's not a seething anger or resentment, it's just explosive and raw, to the point of Kane not even listening to what's being said around him as he caves a man's head in with a shovel, repeating the same words over and over until he snaps out of it.

    • @kimkillillasfuq8212
      @kimkillillasfuq8212 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Trevor Philips said it best when he said "FUCK YOU! FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU!"

    • @bullhuss
      @bullhuss ปีที่แล้ว

      do you have a clip of it?

    • @HellHoundVideos
      @HellHoundVideos ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bullhuss "Kane and Lynch - You should have let me talk to them "

  • @NUTDOM
    @NUTDOM ปีที่แล้ว +439

    its scary how in a lot of cover based shooters it is more effective to not use the cover system but instead just hug the wall i assume this is because all of them design the ai to fight you while youre in cover so playtesting doesnt catch those weird exploits

    • @221Prohunter
      @221Prohunter ปีที่แล้ว +11

      IOI still hasn’t learned this, funny enough. The new Hitman trilogy has the same exact exploit, whereas cover for fighting isn’t as important since you’re supposed to not play the game assault style, but it’s still massively exploitable.

    • @suspicioustumbleweed4760
      @suspicioustumbleweed4760 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      irl you're not supposed to hug cover like that because it limits your view and you can be hit by bullets that whiz down the wall

  • @bennetthobbitt9847
    @bennetthobbitt9847 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My favorite part of this game was when at the end, kane said to lynch, "you know lynch, this really has been our dog days."

  • @raptorshinryu
    @raptorshinryu ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I was absolutely obsessed with this game's presentation the minute I saw the reveal trailer. Downloaded all of the other trailers, bought the soundtrack on release, used that "noise complaint" hotel menu scene as a wallpaper for a few months. I already knew the game wasn't the best after playing the demo, but playing through it with the mindset of it being more of an "experience" and not an action game was one of the most memorable experiences I had in gaming.

  • @belloreos1368
    @belloreos1368 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    I doubt it's intentional, but Kane's comment of "don't do anything irrational" to Lynch right before the sniper section really reinforces the idea of how so much bloodshed could've been avoided if there was any level-headedness between the two

  • @walnzell9328
    @walnzell9328 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    Kane and Lynch 2 is actually one of the many documentaries on the career of the extradimensional being known as "The Cameraman."
    He has been everywhere, and filmed everything. And even while he never directly interacts with those he films, his ability to film has made those in his camera's views into legends.
    But one must consider his own power if he is able to film such amazing feats that no normal cameraman could ever hope to keep up with.

    • @letsreadtextbook1687
      @letsreadtextbook1687 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He died at the end tho so not that powerful i guess

    • @unoriginalperson72
      @unoriginalperson72 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@letsreadtextbook1687 nah the camera fell after the strange blood sounds so it's clear the cameraman attacked the police that shot him

    • @walnzell9328
      @walnzell9328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@letsreadtextbook1687 Or did he? Can one truly kill THE Cameraman? Or just postpone his filming adventures?

    • @letsreadtextbook1687
      @letsreadtextbook1687 ปีที่แล้ว

      @unoriginal person @WALN Zell HMMMMM🤔

  • @christonadams9046
    @christonadams9046 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I remember my cousins had this game on their Xbox 360 and that I could never get past the second level. Now, after watching this, it kinda makes me want to play the game again considering how cool the visual style, aesthetic, story and writing are

  • @keviren6443
    @keviren6443 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:04:55 "no more deals"

  • @whatbroicanhave50character35
    @whatbroicanhave50character35 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    Holy shit, a game where a shotgun actually functions like an actual shotgun. They don't just become completely ineffective 30ft from the muzzle, they'd be useless if they did. I mean you can even get rifled shotguns and use slugs, which are just a single 1oz hunk of lead for a projectile instead of a bunch of smaller ones. I don't know what the max effective range is but I wouldn't be afraid to take 50-100 yard shots with a long 12 gauge that has decent sights using slugs. More practiced shooters than I am would almost definitely be accurate more than twice that distance with the same gun.
    Edit: 2 seconds of research, Jerry Michulek put rounds on target at 325 yards with a 12 gauge slug. Your average person won't come close to that, because Jerry is a living legend, but it's possible.

    • @DrunkedOwly
      @DrunkedOwly ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Usually they aren't accurate not because of dev ignorance, but game balancing, they'd be peanuts if accurately added to a lot of games

    • @KPx-ke8bg
      @KPx-ke8bg ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus, you gun guys are worse than Bronies

    • @whatbroicanhave50character35
      @whatbroicanhave50character35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrunkedOwly Changing a guns effective range isn't the only way of balancing a shooter, it's just a lazy one.

    • @noodlxs
      @noodlxs ปีที่แล้ว +5

      American moment

    • @whatbroicanhave50character35
      @whatbroicanhave50character35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noodlxs What's your point?

  • @ShenDoodles
    @ShenDoodles ปีที่แล้ว +1513

    They really need to give this series another chance. I'm thinking a reboot would capitalise on the potential that's clearly there.

    • @dylansmith7477
      @dylansmith7477 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      a third game where one of them kills the other after many scenes of the two actually talking would be fucking amazing

    • @ShenDoodles
      @ShenDoodles ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@dylansmith7477 They wouldn't kill each other because they're stuck in a situation where they're each other's only allies.

    • @thomasrothbacher5849
      @thomasrothbacher5849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      no

    • @Bale4Bond
      @Bale4Bond ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm sure they'll get it right the third time..

    • @ShenDoodles
      @ShenDoodles ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@thefearofg0ds758 I don't think it should be open world. A linear approach is the best fit for a series like this.

  • @pwned0_o
    @pwned0_o ปีที่แล้ว +21

    dude i felt like this game has true potential if only the creators put time and blood, this would’ve been crazy, the entire aesthetic of it is just soooooo good

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know right ? Both games have potential, and they would be considered good instead

  • @friendformationbot
    @friendformationbot ปีที่แล้ว +5

    39:50 - the adjective form of contempt is "contemptuous", someone who has contempt for you. if someone is worthy of contempt, they are "contemptible".

  • @Isaac_646
    @Isaac_646 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    I just love how this game is like an endless chaotic insanity train that only ends when you die.

  • @ryanbradleyrankin
    @ryanbradleyrankin ปีที่แล้ว +476

    I want to point out that Gerstmann probably would have given the game a lower score but gamespot had a rigged scoring system that always favored bigger budget games. The reviewer would score parts of the game in a vacuum. Graphics, Sound, Music ETC. The different scores were weighted differently though. So naturally more "realistic" and gritty brown games would get a higher score and things like music and sound would get a bump on the score since bigger games had better access to professional voice acting and studio equipment inflating the score. If a game had extra features like multiplayer even if it sucked would inflate the scores. The reviewers didnt got a 100% say on what the score was, they had to arbitrarily plug numbers into the nonsense algebra equation and when the score got back they had the option to add a "reviewers tilt". Which is the closest to control over the score they had where they could wack the score up or down a single point depending on if in the final score it actually represented their feelings on the game.

    • @cirkleobserver3217
      @cirkleobserver3217 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Yeah, the way reviewers usually have score categories is idiotic, I stopped taking any review that does that seriously. A game can be either more, or less than the sum of it’s parts. Nobody is buying a game because it has an adequate production value, but that has an outsized bearing on the score.
      Scores in general are kind of silly, but aggregates are especially stupid. None of this is remotely scientific, and it shouldn’t pretend that it is.

    • @kurokasteele4830
      @kurokasteele4830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cirkleobserver3217
      In the way it manifested there, absolutely agreed, but for anything short of an active in-depth analysis like a review video now, separating score categories is pretty good for the buyer, I'd say. Even if it was just generalized.

  • @lambda-m1676
    @lambda-m1676 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I like to think that in this game, you don't take the POV of the cameraman. You follow a POV of a Shanghai Police or Interpol op, trying to find Kane and Lynch themselves through footage after becoming public enemies.

  • @pu-FP
    @pu-FP ปีที่แล้ว +10

    45:46 le funny voice crack aside, that's real and visceral. I am madly in love with someone...and at times am extremely guided by emotion at times, if i saw her die, not just hearing of her die but viewing it... i couldn't imagine the sounds I'd make

  • @PussInBoot414
    @PussInBoot414 ปีที่แล้ว +890

    Gotta say I actually really respect they went so gritty with this game, it was a risk and it definitely turned a lot of people off. For those who get it, it’s a ultra violent heist/underworld story that ties in beautifully with the early TH-cam age. Not every game has to be super slick where you play a hero, crime is dirty and people get hurt. No one wins and this game perfectly captures that.

    • @twinphalanx4465
      @twinphalanx4465 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      The camera man did nothing for the entirety of the adventure and he is the one who died

    • @AverageUsernames
      @AverageUsernames ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twinphalanx4465 Or maybe the floor, ya know ya know the thing.

    • @ThePatchedVest
      @ThePatchedVest ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Not enough games have this tone outside of K&L: Dog Days. I think Max Payne series and Manhunt, but even they aren't willing to take any really creative risks with the gameplay the same way K&L does. Every other "gritty" game series (from your GTAs, to your Saints Rows) just feels far too squeaky clean and polished by my personal standards.
      Like, I just want a game where you're bashing someone's face in with a whiskey bottle in a piss-stained graffiti alleyway in some rainy city. Make every texture a grunge texture and give the camera a 1990s VHS quality and I'll be bending over backwards. Is that too much to ask game devs?!

    • @ramentrifecta8619
      @ramentrifecta8619 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ive always wanted something like this , in the sense that the chaos, and worst of all things happening are just typical/gritty/realistic/with saints row like exaggerations because fun lol

    • @JustBreathe436
      @JustBreathe436 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThePatchedVest I thought gta 4 had a pretty gritty story

  • @MidnightMan04
    @MidnightMan04 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    The game had me pulling hairs out from half of the shoot-outs but the atmosphere and "2nd-person" view of the game was legendary. The intro still gives me chills to this day.

  • @PeuPater
    @PeuPater ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That outro montage is probably my favourite out of all the ones you've done. Amazing work.

  • @TheD736
    @TheD736 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Guess it goes to show you can have fun doing anything if you see it from the right lens. For someone at the time it was a worse version of other games it was being compared to at the time, but now we've got the hindsight of knowing what gaming would later become and appreciate aspects of the game that at the time we took for granted. Consistent writing and style direction, interesting multiplayer mode, and the odd magic of terrible mic compression

  • @SutonaSushi
    @SutonaSushi ปีที่แล้ว +608

    We need to get this game remade, with updated character appearances, even more high detailed landscapes and world building, better ragdoll and gore mechanics, better game mechanics and a better squad/buddy mechanics that if you're playing single player, your able to command Kane what to do, explore more of the stealth mechanics, make the game a little bit longer than 4 hours. Overall, I love this game, for how unique it looks.

    • @handwerkergermany8587
      @handwerkergermany8587 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yes please

    • @Pihsrosnec
      @Pihsrosnec ปีที่แล้ว +57

      honestly it looks really cool it's just a shame it plays so poorly. like, the gameplay doesn't even need to be super fun or anything, just passable

    • @handwerkergermany8587
      @handwerkergermany8587 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that's the perfect idea

    • @zcgamerandreacts2762
      @zcgamerandreacts2762 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Pihsrosnec well it needs to work properly. First off enemy NPCS shouldn't shoot you if you have a hostage.
      Have sneaking mechanics implemented. And uhhh AI needs more work.

    • @Pihsrosnec
      @Pihsrosnec ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@zcgamerandreacts2762 that's what I mean. passable. as in functional

  • @JusticeSheperd
    @JusticeSheperd ปีที่แล้ว +950

    So glad to see this game still getting some light over 10 years later.
    Sure, mechanically, the game is average at best. But the way it does it's atmosphere and aesthetic is unlike any game I've seen, even to this day. That feeling of utter raw grittiness combined with an unsettling world really carries this game from something forgettable to something that deserves notice a decade on.

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it literally just looks like any other average 2010 FPS game

    • @Marquis-Sade
      @Marquis-Sade ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@AverageAlien But this isnt a FPS

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Marquis-Sade TPS

    • @Marquis-Sade
      @Marquis-Sade ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AverageAlien Better

    • @RealSelene
      @RealSelene ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Max payne 3 did this but with infinitely better gameplay

  • @pr9039
    @pr9039 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:16 oh jesus why did that feel like hearing a foreign language you took 4 years of in high school but never used again in your little town until someone showed up and word-dumped in front of you.

  • @Kano_Productions
    @Kano_Productions 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Watching this again I heared a cruelty squad song at 10:25. Could possibly mean he was working on that vid since then. Crazy.

  • @yagsidog
    @yagsidog ปีที่แล้ว +771

    After hearing that the game is 4hrs long, I paused the video, went and got the game and finished it.
    I'm surprised it's got such bad reviews- sure the shooting is shoddy but the game is very unique in the risks that it takes. 10/10 would want a sequel.

    • @ottovonweaboo6355
      @ottovonweaboo6355 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      true, if they only sold it as an single/coop and arcade throwing away the awful multiplayer. the game is quite fun for a couple of days.... they definetly need to give us a 3rd instalment

    • @thomasrothbacher5849
      @thomasrothbacher5849 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i played it 2 months ago and it was barely worth the 0.99 i paid for it...

    • @ChimFilms
      @ChimFilms ปีที่แล้ว

      where did you get it?

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thomasrothbacher5849 it's just a game with random noise essentially

    • @kingdomkey2262
      @kingdomkey2262 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean a game taking risk doesn't mean it deserves a 10/10 it still has to be polished and well designed, which this game is not

  • @Nega-Tim
    @Nega-Tim ปีที่แล้ว +36

    That fucking cut at the beginning of chapter 4 (37:32) is honestly one of the best transitions I've ever seen in a game. This game is equally as genius as it is braindead, and I love it

  • @nickiscoolbeans
    @nickiscoolbeans ปีที่แล้ว +121

    My favorite little detail of this game is his all the weapons photos for the buy screen show that they’re taken in a police evidence lockup. They also have backstories to how they got there, most of them where taken from places you had been in combat.

  • @bernard539
    @bernard539 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The kind of game you consume in one time like a movie. Not badly written, just poorly executed, so much so it's fun, but at the same time, kind of an disturbing experience that leave you disturbed and or deaply involved (admitedly I'm quite feeble so lot's of game's solo story mode and even some movies leave me that way) but this one with the story, effects, uglyness and realism It just push the boundary.

  • @flogchamp9530
    @flogchamp9530 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:13:24 this is actually an issue I ran into playing uncharted 1 for the first time a bit ago, where the cover system has nate basically screaming for people to shoot him everytime he leans out of cover so I've learned quick to abuse no cover. except for low cover. the fact you can't crouch is fucking insane.
    EDIT: I shoulda watched 3 more siconds

  • @otblano2x
    @otblano2x ปีที่แล้ว +349

    I love what this channel has turned into from a “leafy clone” to a deep analysis on great games Petscop 2

    • @Sleeolo
      @Sleeolo ปีที่แล้ว +18

      From Leafy Clone to Game Theory

    • @corndogonasticc
      @corndogonasticc ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ever since that huge change, this channel suddenly became my absolute favorite. This is probably singlehandedly the best decision he did yet. I don't know if his channel used to earn a bunch of million views everytime, but i noticed how he started getting millions of views everytime he makes videos like these. Best part about it is that, he just posted them probably 4-5 days and its already popping millions. Goddamn crazy. Kudos to pyro, love his sh**

    • @anotherguy687
      @anotherguy687 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not really Pyro anymore, I'd say it's just (a slightly modified for public of course) Niall nowadays, talking about what he likes.

  • @smugbowkid9919
    @smugbowkid9919 ปีที่แล้ว +437

    Seriously, Pyro’s reviewing skills have to be too notch. He could legitimately make Hunt Down the Freeman sound good with enough effort.

    • @Florescentia02
      @Florescentia02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now I wanna see him try

    • @_ANDRE.
      @_ANDRE. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It does kinda border on being pretentious nonsense at times.

    • @At0m1c_At0m
      @At0m1c_At0m ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_ANDRE. what do you mean by that?

    • @_ANDRE.
      @_ANDRE. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@At0m1c_At0m His comparisons and ways he sometimes interprets things remind me of some pretentious art people. Putting to much thought or meaning into something which maybe doesn't have much meaning at all. Sure it could be intentional and deep, but it could also just be something they put in just because it looked neat. A good TH-camr example for this is Jacob Geller, he makes exactly those kind of videos. He says much without saying anything and he interprets so much into nothing. Pyro isn't nearly as bad tho, I enjoy his videos a lot.

  • @kkay000
    @kkay000 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    33:10 Kazuhira Mille- Medic... yup, medic.

  • @neonexus9660
    @neonexus9660 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This game is one of the best examples of a game that should’ve just been a movie or a tv show and pyro molding this experience into a watchable format does this game a beautiful justice that it really didn’t deserve beyond the concept of the game itself.

  • @realmeth0dz668
    @realmeth0dz668 ปีที่แล้ว +486

    I absolutely adore the aesthetic of this game, it’s feels a snuffed live leak video with a mix of the feeling of the War Dogs movie. Absolutely needs to make a return, but I doubt it would ever in the state of games right now.

    • @mayonnaise3959
      @mayonnaise3959 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bro most games coming out right now and miles better then this pile of shit

    • @mannhouse8014
      @mannhouse8014 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@mayonnaise3959 Most games coming out now, at least Triple A shooters like this game, are generic pieces of mass produced garbage designed to siphon money from idiots. They're like the Marvel movies of video games. At least Kayne and Lynch 2 has some personality.

    • @crack4184
      @crack4184 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@mayonnaise3959 K&L Dog Days is a shoddy game but it has so much personality

    • @sad.3x3
      @sad.3x3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      saying the state of triple a games would be more accurate tbh, indie games are still slapping

    • @michaelgruppie5522
      @michaelgruppie5522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      War dogs is a terrible movie. At best it is very bad

  • @divagaciones1628
    @divagaciones1628 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    Kane and Lynch 2 is such an interesting game to me. It's one of those rare games where I cannot decide if it's genius or a piece of shit. The shooting is janky and nothing to write home about, but the aesthetic, coupled with the bonkers story and the frustratingly abrupt ending make it so memorable, almost like a 4 hours nightmare. It's the type of game where I always felt frustrated and a bit sick after playing, but I couldn't help but pick it back up until I finished it.

    • @dogeshark204
      @dogeshark204 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's not a great game but an amazing micheal mann movie

    • @vespenegas261
      @vespenegas261 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      My theory is they wanted a chaos of a firefight but just couldn't program AI to do reasonable moves, so they just lowered accuracy of all your guns to make fights more exhausting. The first game featured a bank heist gone wrong very similar to the movie Heat, and as fun as it was you knew it was a shooting gallery. The second one is so unpredictable, except some plot scenes you'd think Kane or Lynch ever held a gun in their life 😅

  • @s3n0ii91
    @s3n0ii91 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    55:30 where might I find this polite young mans contact information

  • @mrnelsonius5631
    @mrnelsonius5631 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I never played this, but I think it’s my favorite aesthetic I’ve seen in a game. I love this “dirty hallucinogenic urban hell” vibe taken to such extremes. Gotta give it a go. I’m a sucker for weird vibes.