HOW THE THAI DOWRY REALLY WORKS TODAY; I ask Thais to find out. [THAI WEDDING]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2021
- If you would like to marry a Thai lady, you have to deal with the Thai dowry, called sin sod สินสอด in Thai. In this video I will tell you how the Thai dowry really it works today and how Thais deal with it.
I have asked 10 Thais the following crucial questions about the Thai dowry to help you understand how it works today in order to get ready for a Thai marriage.
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Very informative. Thanks for sharing. I’m considering marrying a Thai woman and living in Thailand so this is very relevant for me.
Thanks for your good feedback. You are very welcome. Wish you good luck with your plans to marry a Thai lady and to live in Thailand. Btw, I have a company in Thailand assisting people who want to relocate to here. This is the website of my company: mythai24.com Greetings from Bangkok
I am truly surprised you have no comments, this is GEMS for the foreigner thats looking to marry thai woman, as myself this is valuable information.... i truly agree with the last thai young man whom i believe is correct.
because most thai people believes that westerners are rich 🤣😂
Thanks for your good comment. Happy that this video is helpful for you.
Very good information I Just know about this culture I am married to a Thai boy..they have never told me before about this. .
Thank you for your good feedback.
great video..well done!
I've been with a Thai for 8 years and we are getting married. She has 2 kids from other Thai's. There is no sin sod involved and that was agreed to by the both of us. I take care of her kids and they are my kids and by take care I mean pay for school and any other things that they need. The one thing other foreigners need to address is when a thai says "Take Care of Me" which has a different meaning in western culture versus thai culture. Take care in western culture means treat you with respect and treat her well. Take care in Thai is more of a monetary Take care of family..etc..etc. The questions here were spot on and good that they are addressed. Thai culture is morphing and less and less women are requiring the traditional ways and more concerned about being with a good man. Finally, it is good that you are in well with the family. The mother and the father sacrifice a lot to bring up their children and definitely deserve respect and the sacrifices that they made for a better life for their children. I can say that if you don't get along with the family or there is a lot of drama that you might want to steer clear as they will come first in your wife's eyes.
I recently married a Thai woman from a rice farming family. She was previously married but had no children. She was highly educated and had a good job teaching. I wanted to honor her family but only paid 400k baht as well as all wedding expenses. We are also buying a house together in a nearby city currently.
If your wife and you are happy with it, this is great, but quite a lot of Thai men would not pay any dowry in this case anymore, and as said in the video very often after the wedding is returned to the couple.
thanks, interesting to hear the views of kon thai, agrees im most part with what i expected. Thailand is in transition now with respect to sin-sod as the economics change, and i believe in the next 5-10 years it will be obsolete, except as a ceremonial gesture. i paid 1 million BHT in 2018, was told the parent would probably return it, but they did not. my (ex) wife quit the marriage after a short time, and the sin-sod was not returned to me. i always recommend to farang to not pay sin-sod, unless it is agreed that it will be returned. It is too difficult for farang to recover the money if the wife decides to quit, and quite frankly, the custom has outlived its utility. if the family refuses to return the money, find another girl, there are plenty of beautiful decent thai women who are more than happy to marry for love.
Welcome, and thank you for your feedback and sharing your experience. Sorry to read about your bad experience with your ex-wife. It seems a bit that she was in the dowry business as indeed there are ladies who just marry to get the dowry and then quickly quit the marriage, and then go for another guy to marry to get sin sod again. As said in my video, these days lots of Thais do not pay any sin sod anymore, and among those who still pay very often it is returned after the marriage. If even Thais often or even mostly do not pay, why should a foreigner pay, particularly also as this sin sod custom is so contrary to their own believes about how love and marriage should be. The Thai lady must understand that you come from a different country and culture, and thus compromises need to be found. She can not do everything just on own her terms. A compromise could be that the foreigner just shows the money at the marriage and then gets it back afterwards as many Thais also do it (as said above). This is the maximum what I would recommend to a foreigner. Of course, if a foreigner wants to pay and is happy with it, this is also fine, but as far as I know most foreigners do not really want to pay the sin sod as it is too contrary to their believes with regard of love and marriage.
Great job ....
Thank you. :)
Still lots of divorced women with children demanding sin sot. They won't get it from me.
Thank you for your informative video. There are more differences between Thai and Western culture. I know a number of Thai women in the Netherlands and I understand that the way in which older people and people with authority are treated is also different. I also understand that at parties, such as weddings, the guests give money. This is also regulated by traditions. Is there more information about this?
You are welcome. Thanks for your good feedback. A weddings and also at funerals people mostly give money in an envelope, but on other occasions or festivities like birthday, Thai New Years, Western New Year, they do mostly not give money, but give gifts if they give something.
Thank you for this very helpful and informative video. 👍🏾 In the case of a woman who is older and has already had children yet helps take care of her parents, what is done?
you are very welcome. Thank you for your good feedback. I would say in this case most Thai men would not pay any dowry anymore, and if someone pays most likely not a lot and it is likely that it is returned after the wedding. If she takes care of her parents and still keeps on doing so after the wedding, this is not a reason why dowry must be paid as the wedding does not effect it or change this fact.
Regarding taking care of her parents, would that still be the case were she to leave the country?
@@waymoncowley436 If she has to take care of her parents, she will try to do this from where ever she is, also from abroad.
Good video clearly shows the best thing you can do if you intend to stay in Thailand long term you need to learn the language then you see the culture and the truth As the say when in Rome do as the Romans do. Good Farang this guy
thank you for the good feedback. I totally agree. You need to learn the language in order to be able to understand how Thai people really are and in order to know what`s really going on in Thailand. Language is the key to the culture and the people of a country. Thus I just can recommend to anybody to learn Thai well if you plan to live in Thailand.
I’ve just met a decent Thai woman on line.. we have never met in person yet.. but the question of marriage and a sin sod has already been raised..I don’t own any property or have savings so it’s makes me feel uncomfortable
Thanks for sharing your experience. Totally understandable that you feel this way. I would say most Westerners would feel this way as this dowry custom is really contrary to what most Westerners think is right for a wedding. If I lady focuses too much on it, particularly right from the beginning it makes it even worse. There should be a compromise between the 2 cultures. A compromise could be showing the money at the wedding, but then getting it back right afterwards just like lots and lots of Thais do it this way these days anyway as said in the video, and thus it should be fine for your Thai lady, too.
This is a fantastic VLOG obtaining responses from various Thais men & women. But question 3) there seems to be a general opinion that the amount of the Sin Sod depends on the status of the Man, sometimes the status of the Women. AND it was interesting that nobody stated a THB amount (THB 50,000, 1 million, etc) - I wonder why - what do you think? Moreover, for many foreigners who marry a girl from a POOR family from Issan, I've seen that the poor family wants a very sizable amount - but your interviews did not reveal this. And thoughts on this?
Thanks for your really good feedback. As I say in my video, just do it the Thai way. There is no reason why a foreigner should pay more than a Thai, actually the opposite should be the case as it is a custom which is really contrary to the Western customs and believes. If a Thai lady or her family ask a foreigner for a higher dowry than they would ask from a Thai men for, they are not really fair and seem to be too much focused on the money aspect, which is not a good sign. If for example a lady who already has kids, and has been married before, and she and her family have a low social status in Thailand, wants a huge dowry from a foreigner, then you can be sure that there is something wrong, and not really about Thai customs anymore, but more about making as much money as possible with the marriage with the foreigner. Anyhow, these days, as said in the video, among Thais very often the dowry is returned after the wedding, and thus this also should be done like this with a foreigner. Best regards
So , in actual fact a barfine is a st or Lt sin sod to the owner of the bar , as is sin sod to the parents of the child being sold ?
Very interesting thanks 👍
Have been to quite a few weddings here in Thailand and not all the same. Went to 2 where one was a justice and the other attorney, a lot of sin sod and gold. The brides one a nurse and the other a government service officer. The bride’s parents kept the lot. As l drink with these guys they don’t have a problem and were happy to do. They love her and her family a lot! Thai culture needs to be respected at all times.
You are welcome :) Thank you for sharing your experience and observations with regard of Sin Sod in Thailand.
dont get married if parents just want money,, why do you want to marry into such a family, thet treat their children like a source of supply/income, where there are financial conditions to be with them, same for some of the thai women that follow these old traditions that are no nore than financial arrangememts, its not love..there will be constant intrusions in your life from these families
Great video - you’ve just saved me 5 million baht - thank you!. I have questioned this but am told it would be non returnable (can’t imagine I would see it again even if they said it was! ). Obviously a down payment on the parents ego for their “good girl” . The purchase of a wife cannot be reconciled with a farangs love and commitment. In 2023 this now is all about the parents face and greed. It will pain their daughter as she says if I pay she is 100% happy , if I don’t pay she sacrifices her family or me and is then only 50% unhappy. The family choose not to negotiate - I refuse to budge. Maybe I need a budget alternative.
5 million is a lot of money.. my misses family asked for 500,000 and I still think it’s a lot of money..
Albino I dare u too get some black face paint
Passport bros will run so fast on this 😅
What happens with the sin sod if the women divorces the man soon after the wedding?
Normally after a divorce the sin sod does not need to be returned, but if it is very close to the wedding day and looks like fraud,, then it is worth hiring a lawyer. There are lawyers on the Thai internet offering such services.
@@mythai24 Thanks for the answer.
It would be a little bit risky otherwise.
You will never get a return on your money I guarantee you that
Good thing I started saving 😌
Its a egotiable. Sometimes negotiations work out others dont. How much are you willing to pay the parents? That depends on how Sod the girl is. It depends on her value. Men dont care about your phd your job or your rich relatives. We care about other things. Being Sod stands for being a Virgo. Because the parents taught their daughter moral values. Men pay for the exellent morals and ethics if turned out not to be a virgo. The sinsod must be returned.
Queston the son of my gf made pregnant at a teenager girl her mother ask marriage with a sin sod of 250000 thb but the son has 17 study same gf no money do you accept impossible
What is the sin sod normal in this case ?? He must be credit but any bank give can you help him
As said in the video, these days very often there is no dowry at all or if then often it is returned after the marriage, BUT finally it depends on each case and how the couple and the parents can agree. More over it also depends on the social status of the family of the lady/girl and on the education of her, etc. If they are wealthy, then 250 000 THB or even significantly more could be asked for, but if if they are not then this seems to be too high. I have heard of middle class marriage with a Sin sod of 100 000 THB and if it is somewhere country among people with lower income, it is a couple of ten thousand of THB. However, your case is kind of special, as the son of your gf has made her pregnant, and therefore they want him to marry her, which still can happen even these days, but is not the rule, and thus they perhaps ask for more than normally would be the case. Best regards from Bangkok
Who pays the mans family for raising and educating their son? I had an interesting conversation with a female Guide one time several years ago, she said there are many lonely women because their greedy parents want too much Sin Sod and are basically trying to sell their daughter for the best price to improve the family of the daughters lifestyle.
Welcher Thai Mann zahlt denn bitte 1 Mio THB an Sin sood?
There are quite a few. Don`t it wrong. There are also quite a few Thai people of a lot of money, particularly in Bangkok, but also in other cities. Anyhow, many Thais do not pay Sin Sod anymore these days, and lots of those who pay get it back after the wedding (see video).
@@mythai24 Also, Sin Sood, das "Mutter Geld", war mal dazu gedacht, das wenn der "Junge" zu dem jungfreulichen Mädchen zieht + die Eltern dem Bräutigam dann Land geben, damit er ua dort ein Haus bauen kann oder er zu den Eltern zieht....damit der Junge dann nicht nur knickknack macht und dann das Mädel sitzen lässt.
-> Wenn dann bitte die Story richtig erzählen.
Ich mag Thai Tradition, ABER:
1. Sind viele "Mädchen" heutzutage sicherlich keine Jungfrau mehr. Geschweige denn "jung".
2. Haben viele eh schon x Kinder oder waren verh.
3. Welcher Farang zieht bitte zu den Eltern oder will in der tiefsten Pampa ein Haus bauen? Ok, kann sein - dann aber bitte auf FETT Land mitgeben nicht vergessen.
4. Schreiben wir das Jahr 2023 und Frauen lassen sich gerne auch mal wieder schnell Scheiden, gell.
Früher hätte man ja noch das Grundstück gehabt...heute? Egal, hauptsache Cashcow zahlt.
5. Ich höre immer nur Thai Tradition.....Thai Tradition...Thai Tradition...
Also, "wenn" Thai Tradition, dann bitte nicht nur den Absatz mit dem "Die Farang Cashcow darf mal Kohle abdrücken", sondern auch ALLES an Tradition berücksichtigen.'
6. Wenn dann >30jährige Thailänderinnen mit 1 oder 2 Kindern und der x-ten Ehe nach Sin Sood schreien, hört das Verständnis dann bitte auf.
und 7. Was ist bitte mit Farang Tradition und Mitgift? Achja....nein...das ist ein Thema das mögen wir gar nicht.
@@mythai24 und JA, mein thail. Nachbar hat auch kein Sin Sood für seine thail. Frau bezahlt.
Ich finde es nur manchmal lächerlich, dass kaum die Eltern mitbekommen, dass die Tochter einen Farang als BF hat, diese gleich $$$ sehen.