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  • @WillOnSomething
    @WillOnSomething ปีที่แล้ว +2617

    I'm old enough to remember when motherboards and their chipsets could take any socket-compatible x86 CPU from any vendor. Not just Intel and AMD either, but Cyrix and VIA too.

    • @0Impeesa
      @0Impeesa ปีที่แล้ว +200

      My first CPU upgrade was from a Pentium 100 to an AMD K6-2, wild to think about that today.

    • @IanSinclair77
      @IanSinclair77 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Cyrix.....daaamnnn

    • @jameshare1848
      @jameshare1848 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@IanSinclair77 Daamnnn 🥲Those were the days

    • @jameshare1848
      @jameshare1848 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Me too, miss those days. Everything was so exciting back then! I love my modern hardware, but I miss the noise of a Quantum Fireball spinning up

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh my, I miss those days!
      So many cool stuff was available back then! Of course we have much more powerful systems now, but I loved the creativity of the inventions back then and I loved the old „gaming“ cases and early watercooling system.
      I’d love to have a modern build in an Oldschool case.
      My favorite would be one of the classic Silverstone HTPC (home theater personal computer) cases that looked like parts of an expensive stereo system.
      The most amazing one is the version with the external water cooler that also looked like a High End Audio component.
      Unfortunately these cases became unobtainable over the years because they were rare even back then, especially with the extra watercooling case.

  • @LinusTechTips
    @LinusTechTips  ปีที่แล้ว +1348

    Correction: the PLX chip on this motherboard is in fact a switch, not a multiplexer! A switch grants the possibility of using more than one device simultaneously, versus one at a time on a multiplexer. Also: all of the motherboards in the intro were taken from our pile of broken hardware - no PC components were damaged in the filming of this video!

    • @Crazy_Chriz
      @Crazy_Chriz ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Whew that was a relief

    • @FrankenProjects
      @FrankenProjects ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Correct! Funny enough I’m researching use-cases for this exact chip at this very moment :P

    • @KGBatemyBread
      @KGBatemyBread ปีที่แล้ว +3

      absolutely bought 2x m.2s when I refreshed my setup in 2018 with a 2600x/X470: 256gb 960 pro for boot, 1tb 970 evo for games. I've been looking into bifurcation cards simply because I don't want to keep expanding with 3.5" SSDs, those require 3.5->5.25 adapters to look good and cable managed in my old Cooler Master HAF932 🤣

    • @waldojim42
      @waldojim42 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That sounds backwards. I work in networking (which I think affects my definition). A DWDM (Dense Wave Division Multiplexer), for example, allows for multiple fiber shots of different wavelengths to be muxed onto the same fiber simultaneously. (For example, allowing 64x 100G waves). Whereas a switch allows multiple connected devices to take turns when using a single connection (think single 10Gig uplink with say 24x 1G connected devices). Note: I think you are correct in that it is a switch, I just think the definition sounds wrong.

    • @EricAnderson10
      @EricAnderson10 ปีที่แล้ว

      PLX or PEX?

  • @ChrisTheEngineer469
    @ChrisTheEngineer469 ปีที่แล้ว +1511

    Engineering samples tell a massive story on the dev process of all the wacky ideas that could one day be in our pcs. LOVE IT !!

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @Sakshi gaming delete your youtube account

    • @petermichaelgreen
      @petermichaelgreen ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed, AMD is doing something quite similar with their current gen chipsets. Afaict it's the same basic chip for all of them, but the high end SKUs have two of that chip, giving you twice as much SATA and 8 more PCIe lanes.

    • @floridaman6643
      @floridaman6643 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Sakshi_gamer Indian npc

    • @hman6159
      @hman6159 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Sakshi gaming Indian pc lol

    • @fabiodragon13
      @fabiodragon13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or could've been in them but won't ever 🤷😂

  • @Just_a_commenter
    @Just_a_commenter ปีที่แล้ว +719

    Seeing those boards tumble out of that bin was just... pain. But a good hook, so credit where it's due!

    • @rossharper1983
      @rossharper1983 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      You could see instantly they were all old crap, from the white PCI slots

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Sheela Gaming want some gift cards?

    • @gabopenav
      @gabopenav ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m a bot.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If they were socket 7 boards I'd be mad! That was my era getting into pc's.

    • @Just_a_commenter
      @Just_a_commenter ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@rossharper1983 they may have all been old, and perhaps even dead, it's just the sight of motherboards tumbling around sets off an immediate pain response for me. lol

  • @thelynxdr1355
    @thelynxdr1355 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    What a perfect time to refresh so i can have something to watch.

    • @NatK2010
      @NatK2010 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same for me. Great video anyway! I literally just clicked the Notification button and saw the new video posted.

    • @allanau
      @allanau ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. A trillion on YT and nothing to watch lol.

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge ปีที่แล้ว +231

    I think it's about time we took the lid off the black bios box. I hope you guys and gals can do a video on how they make a bios, and what actually goes into engineering and designing them.

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley ปีที่แล้ว +55

      It just isn't that interesting to the average viewer. 60% of making a BIOS is done for you via the UEFI spec. (A massive, very technical document, that even I, as a person who's been doing this for a while, sometimes have difficulty comprehending) The rest is other low-level interface stuff that most people who watch this channel don't have the skill set to understand.
      It wouldn't be a very good video except for a very specific niche of people (hobby OS developers), who already know all the information in the video.

    • @xeon39688
      @xeon39688 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nikkiofthevalley might include a lot of C/C++ and assembly

    • @Gurj101
      @Gurj101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      there was efi developed by intel then improved and created uefi standard which is now being misused by Microsoft specifically secure boot feature which is actually usefull, is being used by MS to bar Dual booting Linux and in general just to make life harder so that everyone only runs windows if they want to have secure firmware .

    • @tarkitarker0815
      @tarkitarker0815 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you are a funny one. making a bios would exceed the knowledge of 99% of this channels views by so much that they wouldnt understand too much about it. and its more or less the same as to making a xmp profile or jedec spec in terms of process and handling. its a bios or reg file with entries like cas to ras latency 0x1h for cas latency of 18 in terms of ram or pure machine language when it comes to things like cpu count and if channel interleaving is allowed are declared by simple 01 or 00 in the block of said command, and the command is defined by the file format language, how that is made is definetly waaaaaay too advanced for ltt.

    • @tarkitarker0815
      @tarkitarker0815 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xeon39688 no, it infact doesnt include any programming language apart from bios language.

  • @ctrlectrld
    @ctrlectrld ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wonder how many people are spotting the audio edit on Linus' voice at 10:41, where the editor slapped "AMD" on top of Intel. Actually you can still hear a little piece of Intel's "i" right before "AMD".

    • @Alvin_6048
      @Alvin_6048 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thats a pretty obvious edit lmfao

  • @olioxx
    @olioxx ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The PEX8714 that's in that board is in fact a PCIe switch not a multiplexer. It has 12 lanes across 5 ports, which means you can put 3 4x ports downstream on a single x4 upstream port, for instance effectively adding in 2 extra x4 slots. A multiplexer would only let you use one device at a time, while they can work simultaneously on a switch. In my knowledge there are only 2 current gen manufacturers of PCIe switches Broadcom (owner of PLX) and Microchip (bought microsemi) Diodes incorporated also makes some Gen 2 and 3 switches but with lower lane counts compared to the big 2.

  • @ethans4783
    @ethans4783 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Man its been a while since we've had a motherboard video! Throwback to the old days of countless identical motherboard reviews, still loved it.

    • @Cinkodacs
      @Cinkodacs ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably driver support. At the speeds these cards operate... most likely they just couldn't make it work reliably anymore.

  • @davidgoncalvesalvarez
    @davidgoncalvesalvarez ปีที่แล้ว +435

    2:06 Who recorded that footage, I almost got a heart attack.
    I’m amazed at how TH-camrs can make such long videos based on very basic premises, like this random board that’s the same but with just an extra chip. It’s a cool piece of tech history tho.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s just a random old CPU, a lot of people buy them by the pound and shoot them.
      No need to flinch when they get thrown around..

    • @Eidolon2003
      @Eidolon2003 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@rolux4853 They dropped it in the socket...

    • @RYU47376
      @RYU47376 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@rolux4853 that's am5 the pin is on the motherboard. Nobody cares about the cpu

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Eidolon2003 yeah but did you forget that it’s an AMD AM socket? No problem dropping something on it, it’s just a piece of plastic with holes in it.
      If it would be an LGA socket like Intel (or the new AM5) uses them, it would be something totally different of course..
      The pins would likely get hurt then.
      But since it was the old AMD socket, no sockets where harmed in the making of this film.

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RYU47376 did you even watch the video dude? It’s not AM5 it’s a super old board that not even worked with Ryzen Gen 3..
      Edit: spelling error from my German autocorrect

  • @Archmage1809
    @Archmage1809 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Fun thing: Aorus Master is the replacement name for the Aorus Gaming 7. Gaming 7 actually has the old Z370 era design, meanwhile Z390 already dropped the number naming scheme and switched to Elite < (maybe a Pro) < (maybe an Ultra) < Master < Xtreme

  • @KawaiiM4A1S
    @KawaiiM4A1S ปีที่แล้ว +19

    2:05 that made me die inside a little... I hope those poor pins are okay :(

    • @Mugen-405
      @Mugen-405 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope, you can see them bended after the hit, i hope that the motherboard was already broken

    • @jamiepilkey
      @jamiepilkey ปีที่แล้ว +8

      We have a number of busted motherboards handy for shots like this. I keep them in a pile called "IT'S DEAD JIM!"

  • @coalfactorys6277
    @coalfactorys6277 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    man hearing 300-350 for a motherboard sounds so good today compared to the $500+ boards we see for current gen stuff

    • @alistairblaire6001
      @alistairblaire6001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah back then a good X470 board was $200-250 and that was considered overkill. My X470 Taichi is still doing work too. If the PCIe switch chip could add another $100+ to the board price that must be some really expensive silicon.

    • @RezaQin
      @RezaQin ปีที่แล้ว

      I got my Asus mobo for 200$ so...bummer for you.

  • @n.stephan9848
    @n.stephan9848 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I've got an AM4 Gigabyte motherboard (Vision D or something like that) and the reason your last PCIe slot doesn't work may simply be, because it's shared with one of the NVME slots.

    • @hojnikb
      @hojnikb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That makes no sense. Why would they use PLX chip then to multiplex pcie lanes?

    • @n.stephan9848
      @n.stephan9848 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hojnikb I know it makes no sense, but I thought I'd mention it, just in case.

    • @tarkitarker0815
      @tarkitarker0815 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hojnikb you would multiplex via slower protocolls, also this isnt a multi.

  • @vitor900000
    @vitor900000 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    You could try to add the missing CPU microcodes to the BIOS and it may be able to boot with 3Gen+
    While there are a bunch of software tools that can mod AM4 BIOSes they require a decent amount of knowledge about BIOS modding to be used.

    • @MiGujack3
      @MiGujack3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      it's very easy to do, especially on modern boards. z170 boards get modded for 9900ks all the time.

    • @vitor900000
      @vitor900000 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MiGujack3 Its also very easy to brick a board and require a EEPRON programmer and soldering to rescue it...
      So yeah its not hard but you have to know what you are doing...

    • @tarkitarker0815
      @tarkitarker0815 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vitor900000 its easy and no, you dont need a eeprom reader or programmer, you most likely can order the complete bios chip via mail. there is MUCH filler stuff inside the uefi bios file, you either delete the senseless filler or the entry of a low end cpu or apu you wont ever use, then instead of 0x000002h AMD RYZEN 3500G 0x0000002h AMD RYZEN 5600x3D and instead of the 3500g register entry you copy and past the uefi code of a bios that natively supports the 5800x3d into yours, now you license that bitch via tool and flash it via the onboard tool of your manufacturer, and you are not a smartass that uses the powershell to get some sus reprogrammer that works via cmd but needs certain inputs or you brick it. easy done.

  • @THE-MYSTIC
    @THE-MYSTIC ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love the part where Linus says "It's SSD time" and SSDed all over the place

  • @davidb5255
    @davidb5255 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Would have been nice to see what the performance was for the various M.2 about individually and concurrently to see how the PLX multiplexing affected them.

  • @AlexForencich
    @AlexForencich ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That PLX chip is a PCIe switch, not a mux. Mux chips are quite common; they are what enables the dynamic switching between a single x16 slot and two x8 slots on most motherboards.

  • @qwe304
    @qwe304 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @2:06 I can literally see the pin get bent by the dropped cpu 😭

  • @thedscast
    @thedscast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So nice to see Mexico sponsoring LTT.

  • @25Dzone
    @25Dzone ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Man Linus doesn't always get it right but the dude knows how to express his passion for topics that he truly loves and is a genius at simplifying technologies just enough so it becomes accessible information to the majority of viewers. It's really quite impressive, even if he's a clumsy idiot 90% of the time.

    • @SlickSpeedy
      @SlickSpeedy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      99% of the time

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dzone - I know just how you feel bro! Linus is like one of those friends who either thrills you or depresses you there ain't no middle ground.
      But you know what I love what Luke and Linus have created, there is so much good in there for anybody who watches or works there. Never change Luke and Linus!
      The last 3 Wan Shows have also been top top quality, the best ones in the entire life of LTT :)

    • @user-wq9mw2xz3j
      @user-wq9mw2xz3j ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bruh

    • @overflowyouknow
      @overflowyouknow ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This was like the definition of a back handed compliment lol

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Steve Sherman LOL!!!
      I like Luke he is the perfect foil to Linus.

  • @PostBench
    @PostBench ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its very cool to see what different ideas these engineerings samples were stewing up. Maybe these won't just be thrown away next time and be something to learn from to bring more innovation on the market!

  • @enerjustics
    @enerjustics ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gigabyte did release the B550 Aorus Master though, which is one of the only AMD boards with 3 m.2 slots directly connected to the CPU PCIe 4.0 lanes. To achieve this, the primary PCIe slot is limited to 8 lanes if 3 m.2 drives are connected. The board supports RAID for the m.2 drives, allowing read and write speeds of up to 21GB/s

  • @tylerebowers
    @tylerebowers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:05 had me really nervous!!!

  • @rexxyonpc
    @rexxyonpc ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your vids man get so excited when you upload grew up with you, Austin and a fair amount of you guys but you are easily my favourite and most detail oriented one out, mind you I love the podcast you do more then your main content the real you without the structure had been so great and refreshing as im catching up

  • @Bboyman1150
    @Bboyman1150 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would be awesome to make a build with only engineering sample / unreleased parts

  • @DS-pk4eh
    @DS-pk4eh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:07 SLI is no more?!!So, I bought three 4090 graphic cards for nothing? Ohh man

  • @Nevakonaza.
    @Nevakonaza. ปีที่แล้ว

    I really do love to see these weird Engineering Samples & Prototypes uploads from LTT, Also the dead Graphics card repair attempt from a while ago was lit!

  • @fatbubba2097
    @fatbubba2097 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Linus: installs RTX 2080, also Linus: "This is the only way for us to get a video output."

  • @cameramaker
    @cameramaker ปีที่แล้ว +5

    PLX is not a multiplexer !! it is a (packet) switch. The multiplexers are the "passive" parts that allow you to split the x16 PEG lanes into two PCIe connectors by diverting/stealing the top 8 lanes from the x16 primary header into the x8 secondary header.
    Multiplexers are used later in your video, when the GPU and the 10G NIC shares the PEG slot lanes. That choice cut the PCIe BW for GPU in half.. so testing gaming was not the wisest step in that config.
    I wonder if you tested the bottom x4 slot alone, since the X470 mobo has it shared with a M.2, which likely stole the priority.

    • @tarkitarker0815
      @tarkitarker0815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you cant use a pcie gen 4 x16 with a 4090 and max it out, i doubt this has had any impact at all. gpus NEVER apart from pcie 1 did saturate even 60% of the interfaces bandwith, you forget that pcie WAS NOT MADE FOR GPUS. why should a gpu max out pcie x16?

  • @limitetpancake9459
    @limitetpancake9459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:03 "No pins were harmed while shooting this video"

  • @ThatGuy1.0
    @ThatGuy1.0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo just wanna say I love all of your videos and I have learned so much from you! Hope 2023 is going good for you!❤

  • @ufukpolat3480
    @ufukpolat3480 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    RGB on a engineering sample board could be useful to debug errors. Individual LEDs could be color and blink coded to signal all sorts of information about the boot stage etc.

    • @CroneLife1
      @CroneLife1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's what the beeps used to be for.

    • @Level-up-your-life
      @Level-up-your-life ปีที่แล้ว

      My gigabyte z790 has a dram cpu vga and boot light . So helpful when troubleshooting

    • @tarkitarker0815
      @tarkitarker0815 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Level-up-your-life nearly every not garbage board has drbios.

    • @elsyvien
      @elsyvien ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tarkitarker0815 msi has it as well on every board, it's called ezdebug on them

  • @TechnoBabble
    @TechnoBabble ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm sad that more companies don't still use multiplexers. I remember my old P8Z77 WS allowing for four 8x PCIe slots on an Ivy Bridge chip. Like Linus mentioned, no extra bandwidth, but it allows for more devices that require a minimum number of lanes to be connected.

    • @fleurdewin7958
      @fleurdewin7958 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They can hardly use those multiplexers anymore because of cost. In the past, the PLX8747 chips used to cost roughly ~$40 per chip exclude implementation cost for motherboard manufacturers to buy in huge quantities. In 2014, Broadcom bought PLX company, then they jacked up the price of the PLX chip by 3X to ~$120 (again, exclude implentation cost) . So nobody wants to pay that amount because it is just too expensive for what it provides to the end-user. In comparison, the Z490 and X570 just the chipset alone were roughly the same price, close to $50 per chip. So you see here, the absurd price of the PLX chip.

    • @TechnoBabble
      @TechnoBabble ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@fleurdewin7958 Yeah, it's a real shame. But honestly with the prices of some boards today they should absolutely have one.
      I've seen some very pricey "designed for workstations" motherboards that don't have multiplexers and when you look at the features it offers you just think "what makes this for workstations".

  • @makerofwarmbread
    @makerofwarmbread ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LTT just want to thank you for making the screwdriver. I finally got it and am now the envy of my pc repair class. My next project is a pc toaster and it will come in handy. Thanks for the great videos for my second monitor while I do my stupid pc projects.

  • @prodbyfaith
    @prodbyfaith ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:22 the PCI ID repository doesn't have a 1532 device, but the range between 1531 and 1538 are all I210 gigabit cards with different configurations. My bet is that it's a fairly standard Intel I210 but programmed in some weird way

  • @kernelpickle
    @kernelpickle ปีที่แล้ว +6

    CPU-Z read something on that board that said Bixby, so it’s possible that was tested with very very early Zen 2 CPUs, since those were released at the same time as the x570 board. This thing might be straddling the gap between naming conventions and the new CPUs with PCIe 4.0 might’ve been killed it.
    Honestly, as someone who owns systems with X570 and B550 boards, both from Gigabyte at the same tier in their product stack, it seems like the older X570 boards were weirdly populated with features, and the B550 was a better feature set with minimal trade offs. I think if I use both of my m.2 slots for I lose some of the SATA ports because it uses up the lanes or I give up some of the shorter PCIe slots in between the x16 that does 4.0 and the x8 that’s 3.0.
    It was so minimal, I feel like the B550 was the far better option because it had more USB A ports on the back.
    Anyway, that board wasn’t as much of a dead end as much as it was likely the precursor to the 500 series chipsets, because that has a mixture of things that found their way into both the X and B models. Even if they ended up going with PCIe switches instead of multiplexers. My guess is that the multiplexer‘s on that board likely caused more issues and didn’t offer enough utility for the price, compared to using switches.
    You should take some really detailed photographs of that thing and send the images over to Buildzoid-I’m sure he’ll love squeezing a solid hour of content out of it.

  • @ffwast
    @ffwast ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the 5000 series created a market for higher end boards in the "prosumer" market segment with regular Ryzen chips that outperformed prior Threadrippers,but if all you need is more M.2 slots you could just get a PCIE expander card for like $60 for a name brand Asus one.

  • @nathanpeterson5609
    @nathanpeterson5609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:00 I always wondered how they pulled that off, since im relatively new to the hardware scene.

  • @williamnessanbaum7464
    @williamnessanbaum7464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:03 I recognize those massive concrete columns. That Microcenter is at Liberty Square Industrial Park, in Brooklyn, NY.

  • @michaellegg9381
    @michaellegg9381 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember my 486 dx4 100mhz could take intel 486 chips it was top of the line for what it was back then.. it had ISA and PCI witch was fairly uncommon for 486 to have PCI slots here in Australia.

  • @delltheengineer6935
    @delltheengineer6935 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love you Linus. The amount of work in your videos is amazing! Thanks to you and to all your team!

  • @decadentgamer8322
    @decadentgamer8322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Nexigo, who the hell are they" *looks at own webcam* "Ohh"

  • @DMonZ1988
    @DMonZ1988 ปีที่แล้ว

    can we appreciate that segues are always the perfect length to skip skip skip just before finding out who it even is, but without missing any of the video.

  • @E3N_Bierski
    @E3N_Bierski ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Found you guys a couple weeks ago and I’m learning everything I can from your videos and forums (it’s confusing tbh… I can build a car but this is another language to me😅)

    • @WyattOShea
      @WyattOShea ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck with your journey :). I've been watching LTT for over a decade now (been watching since 2012) so to me it's not confusing but I can definitely recall it being super confusing at first when I was trying to learn how to build my first pc haha.

    • @idontwalkslow
      @idontwalkslow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Welcome to the PC community!!
      It was a little confusing for too in the beginning. But I really enjoy learning about these things now. Hope you have fun too.

  • @nekrosoft13
    @nekrosoft13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Linus... As far as Intel lan driver. Custom load a different Intel driver from similar family and it should load. For example if you have i219v, you can load driver for i219lm and it works fine.

  • @BeerPiesChips
    @BeerPiesChips ปีที่แล้ว +1

    depending on the multiplexing you can increase the data bandwidth, eg QPSK or xxQAM which can be used if the carriage is the limiting factor

  • @EspyMelly
    @EspyMelly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my older computers had an AMD board with an Intel CPU in it. Around 10 years old I think.

  • @haywoodjay385
    @haywoodjay385 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Recently upgraded to NVME, I like the elimination of extra wires and consolidation onto the mobo. The blazing speed is just the bonus.

    • @johnnyboogalo4897
      @johnnyboogalo4897 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sata SSDs still fast especially just use for gaming but yeah no extra wires is good and M.2 coming down in price.I only got HDD installed now for extra storage for non related gaming stuff only

  • @Maxjoker98
    @Maxjoker98 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Regarding the network drivers: They probably won't install, because this is a unknown combination of PCI IDs. You can probably "hack" the driver to work by editing some .inf files.

  • @NerdyMeathead
    @NerdyMeathead ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be cool if you had a series called Past Tech Today where you go over some of your oldest videos with cutting edge products and retry the tech today.

  • @ShamblerDK
    @ShamblerDK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For that network card, try to force install the Intel I210/I211 Gigabit Ethernet driver. That should work.

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wonder if such a motherboard could’ve been attempted at a large scale today if cost was the primary issue back then.

    • @mypdf
      @mypdf ปีที่แล้ว

      wouldn't make any sense, because the "problem" has already been solved by additional PCI lanes

  • @authoritariangentleman7570
    @authoritariangentleman7570 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:05 seeing that CPU hit the socket with exposed pins was... Tuf.
    I know it's ROG, just leave me alone.

  • @kwlkid85
    @kwlkid85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not to mention if you actually want a 3rd M.2 you can throw an adapter in your 2nd 16x PCIe slot.

  • @joshhardin666
    @joshhardin666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have 3 4tb m.2 nvme drives in my machine and they're all full, 1 for steam, 1 for video editing content, and my system drive which contains a bevvy of very large video editing, 3d design, cad, and machine learning software. I've recently been contemplating storage upgrades recently and while I haven't settled on anything yet, a pair of samsung 16tb u.2 pcie4 nvme drives (paired with a couple of m.2 to u.2 adapters) is a very attractive proposition despite costing more than many people's full gaming computers...

    • @meowie64
      @meowie64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How many games does it take to fill up a 4tb drive jesus christ

    • @levygaming3133
      @levygaming3133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@meowie64 assuming 50gigs each, which is relatively standard for triple-A, that’s *80* games. Assuming you playing a few of those games that are more like 100-150 gig like warzone, ark of GTA V, that number gets even smaller. Still crazy though.

  • @luizmsilvei
    @luizmsilvei ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Eu curto seus vídeos antecipadamente, sempre. É uma questão de confiança nos jovens da Tecnologia, como você. No canal eu me inscrevi por plena confiança, ainda que não saiba fluentemente, ou nada sei, sobre a respeitada língua inglesa. Navegar, assistir e confiar, são necessidades que tenho pessoalmente. Sou brasileiro. Obrigado. Até

  • @BlakeMurrell
    @BlakeMurrell ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Waffle House has found it’s new host

    • @liamg.4645
      @liamg.4645 ปีที่แล้ว

      The waffle house has indeed found its new host

    • @ewanduncan9391
      @ewanduncan9391 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Waffle House has found it’s new host

  • @fattomandeibu
    @fattomandeibu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of how there's a buncha working Commodore 65 prototypes floating around.
    It was a planned budget system by Commodore that used C64 architecture and would be the low end machine, issue is it would've cost about the same amount as an Amiga 600 which was already out and had pretty much the same RAM etc., but using a 16-bit CPU instead of 8-bit, as well as internal 2.5" IDE HD bay among many things that just made it at least twice as powerful.
    (it's no wonder they went bankrupt, I always loved their machines, but they created so much unsellable crap)

  • @Jet7Wave
    @Jet7Wave ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of when I visited my friend to help him upgrade his pre-built Lenovo PC only to find his AMD CPU was using a default Intel cooler. Apparently their motherboards were manufactured for Intel then modified only just enough to use AMD instead. Thankfully the new cooler had mounting for both AMD and Intel, so we just used the Intel instructions for mounting it instead.

  • @KingJojoB
    @KingJojoB ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen

  • @dnakatomiuk
    @dnakatomiuk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember the days of the Northridge and South ridge showing on the board and one either have a small fan or a tiny aluminium heatsink. Nforce, VIA chipsets especially the K400a one.
    I also remember the DFI LANparty days where they glow under blue light man the lan parties I'd go to was like a rave

  • @mittensfastpaw
    @mittensfastpaw ปีที่แล้ว

    Always fun to see the what if out there laying around!

  • @milanbalint6395
    @milanbalint6395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect time to refresh!

  • @rafhauw7422
    @rafhauw7422 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ltt need more camera tech reviews 🔥

  • @tomaskianicka3343
    @tomaskianicka3343 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:06 that hand slap over LGA!!!!

  • @MissionKriticalCreator
    @MissionKriticalCreator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for this video, currently 4 am

  • @jcgongavoe337
    @jcgongavoe337 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:06 One more addon in the Linus drop tips series

  • @mattnordsell9760
    @mattnordsell9760 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Nexigo webcam that I bought on Amazon almost a year ago and it works really well. The opening sponsor spot was the first time that I had ever seen Nexigo as a sponsor.

  • @anthonymorris8891
    @anthonymorris8891 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be nice if Micro Center put a store up in my area. The best option I have for physical locations is Best Buy. It's hard to call them a store for PC enthusiasts though. They've become an appliance store that happens to sell a few prebuilts at this point.

    • @benclimo461
      @benclimo461 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be wonderful if they opened in my country lol. I see them having so much stuff that I could only dream of seeing in person before buying.

  • @naeger
    @naeger ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do the engineering sample build

  • @DeepFriedOreoOffline
    @DeepFriedOreoOffline ปีที่แล้ว

    And here I always thought Mario was saying "Let's go!"... You learn something new every day.

  • @pirojfmifhghek566
    @pirojfmifhghek566 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oohhhhh damn, was that a dunk on your own sponsor in the segue? Savage.

  • @joshuahaewardii8540
    @joshuahaewardii8540 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last segue to sponsor was absolutely BRUTAL

  • @matz4k
    @matz4k ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a series like "Animator react" from Corridor where you let some developers, managers, CEOs talk about the developing times with the XBOX, PS or Nintendo consoles which you have a developing kit from?

  • @skunkwar7468
    @skunkwar7468 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You need to break some records to confuse the heck out of people

  • @cristian.andrei25
    @cristian.andrei25 ปีที่แล้ว

    the perfect video to watch in the bus going home from work

  • @shinaikouka
    @shinaikouka ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most of my computers have three M.2 drives. My main desktop has four. I always segment my OS to its own drive (something that’s an artifact of what I did back in the day when how I’d have to reinstall Windows too often), and that helps to create the glut of drives. It also doesn’t help that 4TB M.2 drives weren’t a good ratio of price to size compared to 2TB drives until recently. (My latest one is a 4TB.)

    • @t0m5k1
      @t0m5k1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have 3 m.2 drive as well. Due to an old H270 mobo and not much money to upgrade with.

  • @EminemLovesGrapes
    @EminemLovesGrapes ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a video that has linus on the thumbnail and he's actually part of the whole video.

  • @TheBigbog96
    @TheBigbog96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos and never been so early for one of them

  • @ThePCman911
    @ThePCman911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really kind of feel you forgot the early 2000s when NVidia had the NForce chipset for both AMD and Intel (680i & 680a). ATI (before AMD bought them) also had both an AMD and Intel compatible chipsets. Yes these are much older and at the time you had both "North" and "South" Bridges to make everything work including the ports, lanes, cpu, and memory controllers. I did see mention of the 80s&90s x86 (386,486) that were also true that could take not only Intel and AMD CPUs, but Cyrix, Via, and I even had an IBM 486 DX100 CPU.

  • @ryant2568
    @ryant2568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have liked to see some benchmarking of the MVME drives given the entire point of this board was that PLX chip to make 3 drives possible.

  • @jaredlozano1692
    @jaredlozano1692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these odd tech videos

  • @MrHankHill
    @MrHankHill ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the sponsor was the country of Mexico for a moment. Lmao.
    “Let’s segway to our sponsor! The Sinaloa Cartel!”

  • @druchii89
    @druchii89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Currently maxing out my X570 Taichi with 3x nvme drives. Loving it :) Would've loved it years ago - but not for an extra $300... hah.

  • @mileswatchman6642
    @mileswatchman6642 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want to come out there and meet you folks 😃

  • @zoson
    @zoson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might be able to use mmtool to update the microcode in the existing bios to add support for 3rd gen.

  • @fabianwt
    @fabianwt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Linus, have you become aware of just how bad Da Bomb hot sauce is? From your video 2 months ago in the pc build that you sold for $1? Da Bomb is featured on the Channel First We Feast Hot Ones. It's the only souce that stays in its line up.

  • @DaLoveDonkey69420
    @DaLoveDonkey69420 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slapped like due to the title alone! This is currently my favorite afterwork channel to look forward to! Love the daily uploads! Thanks Linus and team!

  • @ReaperX7
    @ReaperX7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember hearing about the Z490 aka 490Z. They were probably banking on AMD releasing a 12 or 16 core Ryzen CPU that would have the expanded PCIE bus like Threadripper. Interesting to see it and more interesting to see Gigabyte actually drafted one for testing.

  • @ProductionsByRayne
    @ProductionsByRayne ปีที่แล้ว

    remember the old LGA 775 trick with cap taping the corner pads to OC it lolol

  • @nimbulan2020
    @nimbulan2020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually do have 3 NVMe drives in my system. I had to get an adapter card to run the third one off the second PCI-E x16 slot since my motherboard only has 2 m.2 slots. Between those 3 drives, all my PCI-E lanes are in use so I wouldn't be able to add any more without taking lanes away from the GPU.

  • @connor1424
    @connor1424 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the new intro style. Unsure why, but it seems more engaging!

  • @surferdude4487
    @surferdude4487 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what makes your channel great, quirky, rare hardware that us pleebs would never see otherwise.

  • @nadrojco
    @nadrojco ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Alex rocking an LTT golf hat?! Need!

  • @scottieb1
    @scottieb1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Them killing trx40/strx4 after just 1 processor (threadripper 3) still really pisses me off. That was a very big now dead end investment. It still works great but I do wonder why I bothered.

    • @DragonProtector
      @DragonProtector ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tr4 2950x owner. X399 board from 2017

  • @fixorbricks
    @fixorbricks ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else see the smirk at 6:04 when he says Three-way and Four-way? I swear they cut to the next shot because he and/or the camera people burst out laughing a second later.

  • @james2042
    @james2042 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly what I would love to see is a motherboard thats workstation-esk with gen 4 lanes and multiplexors tied to CPU lanes to allow the gpu to run at x8 gen 4 then run a whole bunch of expansion slots/m.2 drives with the other 12 lanes

  • @newolku
    @newolku ปีที่แล้ว

    2:06 nice bent pins you got there. Rip that mobo

  • @LIUXIN
    @LIUXIN ปีที่แล้ว

    I still remember my first PC with AMD K6-233 on a ASUS TX97E MB(INTEL chipset)