I was an intern at Calyos back when the Kickstarter was still live. On one hand there was a management that didn't know where they wanted to go or what market to aim to. Starting more projects than the engineers and the budget could handle. On the other hand there was the team of passionated engineers who really wanted to create something truly innovative and perfected until the last screw. Sadly, the latter couldn't cope with the first and it ended up with the mess Linus told. I'm really glad the team got able to start a spin off that is working and actually delivering the products. I'm sure they will achieve great stuff!
Hi Linus, you can actually make hot airflow visible by schlieren optics. It's an inexpensive camera technique and you can find a lot of diy instruction on the internet. I don't really know at what temperature differences it becomes really useful but it's worth a try. In my opinion this would have been awesome for this case but there will probably be more opportunities for that.
Honestly, if you are willing to make small modifications to your house, and your computer is on an external wall, its not THAT hard to learn to make a temperature dependant controller, and create a computer with quick connect and disconnect valves that can be cooled by a massive radiator in your house or outside depending on which one is cooler at the time. Ultimately, unless you're going sub-ambient, massive radiators outside the case is where its at anyway... It's just not very practical if you want to be able to mess with the case unless you make a quick disconnect design (And are willing to punch a hole or two in any case for the lines to be run, since I don't know any cases that account for this design by default, though I'm sure there's some exotic cooling cases out there I haven't heard of). The expense is pretty minimal. So is the technical know-how, it would take 3 hours of watching TH-cam videos for an amateur to get the basics and be able to do this. The real issue is mostly aesthetic, property ownership (Can't likely do this with a rental), and not having the energy to make time to do this sort of enthusiast crap. I sympathize... I need to replace the coolant in my waterloop, and have needed to for about a year now, but I constantly put it off... So its easy to imagine how even if you know how to do a thing and its not "that hard" its easier to just watch others do it and forget about doing it yourself XD.
Linus getting real close with his mic to present how there is absolutely no noise coming from the PC. Me approving his claim watching on a laptop running with fans at 5000 rpm.
As a materials engineer, this was a very honest review. I kept thinking "ok, show us the thermal camera then I'll believe it" and within a minute, out comes the FLIR. After he tried Cyberpunk the first time and changed some stuff and said "it's a lot better now" I thought "ok, let's see it again then" and then he showed it again. Amazing. Great work!
@@josselinplanet8240 - Ummm... that's just how radiative cooling works. The fans just supply more airflow than naturally occurs given the temperature and pressure differences (warm air expands and rises, cold air condenses and sinks). Watercoolers are just radiative coolers with an actual liquid as the heat transfer medium. Heat pipes use vacuum assisted gas as a transfer medium. You can have a water cooling system function even without fans running.
@@josselinplanet8240 What the actual hell? He's clearly describing a button that turns on and off the fans... I hate when idiots say condescending shit but don't even know what the heck they're talking about. Button on. Fan on. Button off. Fan off. Water cooling is, as he described, a radiator with liquid flowing through it to allow heat transfer.
@@josselinplanet8240 no one understood your humor, you really think everyone else is an idiot, or do you think your joke just sucked? p.s. watercooling is just aircooling with an extra step
He's been dropping stuff on video for years and sometimes breaks really expensive stuff. It's a long running gag. Might as well call him Loose Hands Linus.
In fairness, heavy is only approximate as it's relative somewhere along a scale of maybe 'very heavy' to a 90lb skinny teenager to relatively light to a 300lb+ bodybuilder
I think he did to show the full potential of the case, they sure know the reasonable thing to to is to put up to a 5800X and 3070 in there. Both with some kind of power tweaks for efficiency
Fans mounted in it should be placed at the bottom of the heat-sinks mid cast to quiet it up a little more. Pure positive and negative pressure make more sound. Stick them in the middle. Plus you can see that sweet sweet RGB lol.
@@devilmikey00 To be fair, the case costs almost $900. Lower tier hardware would certainly perform better, but then you'd be in the position of your case making up a huge portion of the cost of the entire computer. It's just not practical to spend that much on a case only to put mid-tier components in it. So really, it's in the awkward space of being too expensive to the components it's effective for.
I think the best solution to installation troubles is modularity. The heatsinks and front I/O PCB should be removable. Then you mount them outside the case to the boards, then attach the heatsinks to the case. This would greatly simplify installation, lessen the minimum carrying weight of the case, and localize defects for more efficient part replacement. I would also really like to see options for an ATX backplate for rigidity so we're not putting on a lot of PCB stress.
I am just so impressed how linus at 21:15 managed to hit all openings in the highway inadvertently. For me it's a bit sad they didn't spend the time to just undervolt the system. It is such an underused method to improve your gaming experience. And in this case a good undervolt could have potentially made the fan unnecessary.
@@crowntotheundergroud a lot of manufacturers will send cards or cpus out with too much voltage from the factory. Each card is different so finding the minimal stable voltage for a given clock speed will give you the lowest temperatures and best performance
@@int3rned497 Submarines generally run in stealth/quiet mode once it leaves its countries waters. When a submarine is in this mode any sort of noise can alert enemy destroyers or submarines nearby to its presence, which can result in the submarine being found out and even fired upon. Thus silence is paramount on a submarine especially so when it’s operating in hostile waters
Makes me wonder how much cooler it would be if you added two super quiet 140mm noctua fans on bottom blowing up and a small rpm. It would still be damn near completely silent still and with that much static cooling working that well, I wonder if it would cool even better than a traditional fan setup.
youre on point man, it would be so much better than traditional, because traditional are 120mm, your have 140, and traditional has just tiny coolers so hugely less cooling ability ♥️ i absolutely love your future setup with 140mm fans ♥️
The other thing about these videos I've come to appreciate is they aren't puffing up the item he's talking about... he's discussing the pros AND cons - what some people may not like! Personally, I'm not sure I'd want to take a chance at my CPU burning out for a quieter rig... I play music and videos all the time anyway, usually have enough noise that the fans aren't that noticeable... but at the same time, I can hear if something's off, or if the CPU fan kicks high (usually a warning I have too many tabs open in Chrome more than anything else.) I had a machine fry on me once because the PS fan "stopped" How did I find out? Had cause to put my hand at the back of the machine at that part and it was very hot.... In fact I shut the machine down, and the power supply never supplied power again after that... the capacitors cracked. (Four of them...Not one, not two, ... FOUR.) And that was the quietest PS I've had. SO... it's my perspective... but that much space for cooling just to not have noise? I can see something like that being used in a studio where you're recording... but not in a normal home of office. Now the _tech_ would be great for an office... All passive cooling would reduce need for fans, reduce overall noise, and provide a hand warmer in the winter months. It won't be without its uses. But for home? ....I can leave it.
Should I be concerned about coil noise? My EVGA 980 SC makes a kind of rapid ticking noise, like 15 hertz or so, and it changes sound depending on the GPU load and scene content and stuff. It's probably got several thousand hours on it and it hasn't changed in that time, so I'm not concerned, but I'm wondering if I actually ought to be worried about it.
You could always set the fan curves, so that on light load the fans would be off, and would ramp up to 500-800 rpm on heavier loads. That way i think you could get the best of both worlds
I wonder how this kind of case would perform with a giant fan that's like 200 mm, they exist for some custom cases and they're significantly quieter than 120 mm.
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I can see an instant use of this for a silent dialog editing / sound editing computer. We can throw a Ryzen 5950X and a mid-low graphic card like GTX1660 Super and here you have a very powerful sound editing PC with perfect silence where you don't have to fight to hear your ambiances at -50dBFS :)
That's exactly why it caught my attention, not for gaming but for a studio computer. At over €700, it is too much since GPU isn't a factor but I just checked on their website and they make a smaller version called 'the first' which would be ideal and is just over half the price!
@@c4_yrslf726 Sure, you're right, that's an option. I've done this myself on many occasions, but that involves compromise too, latency for example; I had to use 15m DVI and USB extenders to do that in my space. My studio is worth considerably more than 350, I have power conditioners that I have spent more on. When I upgrade my studio pc next, I think I could justify it to myself based on the gains. I'm not saying it isn't a lot of money, it is, but if you've already invested in expensive studio gear, compromising the music to save on a pc case doesn't make sense. Running long cables or worse, wireless, is not a like-for-like alternative. Of course, that all depends on how you make music.
@@martinskoog1777 Thanks, but remote desktop wouldn't work. I started explaining why but I doubt you care about my music gear so I wont go into details. Just trust me, cables are not optional in my studio, thankfully, noisy computer cases are.
This would be super useful for recording setups. There's nothing worse than having fan noise in the background of your recording. And yes, I know you can put the tower in a separate room, or isolate it somehow, but that isn't always an option for some people; Especially for those of us who use a home studio.
this was a mad problem id have whilst trying to record youtube videos with my ps4 next to me, it was like i was on a airforce base speaking next to a harrier jet taking off
That is actually an impressive piece of kit. The price, even for the Insane pre-build, is actually pretty reasonable, particularly when you see what RTX 3080's alone retail for. Were I to be considering another buiid I'd be hard pushed to rule this out. Thanks for sharing.
Well when it is coming from China they can source a 3080 easy since they can grab one from the many sub-OEM vendors from nearby from where they are built, but I'd be careful as it could be a small-china only oem so you take the risk. If they are providing a normal oem card that would be better (haven't check what they provided. Kinda bad to have china build everything from 95% of med stuff to tech stuff as they get dibs first - have to be lucky it ships and is available and at a good price (similar to china blocking shipment of masks with covid).
Even if not a lot of people end up buying this, the concept and proven delivery is so important for the evolution of Personal Computing. This is remarkable, and hats off to the engineers.
I love that you walked me through the hype towards seriously considering whether this case would be the right case for me. Maybe in future, but for now it's a dream!
Okay, wow. Honestly, I didn't expect it to really work at all and this is pretty impressive! Because silent PCs = love. Silent gaming PCs is... extreme amounts of love.
Honestly a big case, and heatsinks with a few notuca fans with the low volt adapters at like 15db - you can certainly have a slient gaming PC (like the Fratucal cases with sound foam inside - it'll make it sound like nothing. You just need a decent case slient case for cheaper: big cpu heatsink with proper low volt fans, either fanless powersupply or overbuilt high watt powersuppoy that enables no fan below like X watt usaged (IE 1500 watt powersupplies often don't turn their fans on until 750watt) few low volt case fans, 3x wide PCI slot GPU with good fans (they are a few) that will run nearly silent and you can adjust the fan curve on like msi afterburner if needed. Just those items will basically limit the fans to around 15db and with a 'slient case' you couldn't hear anything unless your background db level is VERY silent (which most are not) unless you put your ear next to a vent and would only be able to hear a little fan noise then. This review case is stupid -you can do the same thing with just picking the right parts with fans.
Being someone that gets incredibly annoyed by high frequency noise, I think a 100% passive cooling case would drive me nuts. At least fans drown out all but the worst coil whine etc.
In most scenarios, like in this one, you need to dial down the power a bit and that makes the coil whine largely go away. Also, like Linus said, some parts have very little coil whine to begin with and it seems there are increasingly more of these. I have a DB4 passive case and used to have a GTX 1080 in there that could seriously crackle and fizz. Now I have a RTX 3060 Ti and that is completely silent, only when you put your ear to it can you hear a slight buzz/crackle.
@@mythicalsnake8656 perhaps try a 30 series card next? ;-) Yes, it's still a bit of a lottery. I also have 3090 and that has a pretty apparent whine too.
To be fair, Linus' solution is actually more down-to-Earth IMO. With optical Thunderbolt cables being a thing, you can have your PC in the basement next to the already noisy HVAC machinery (you could even hook the cooling up to the AC directly if you're feeling fancy), and have a single fiber optic cable running to your desk where all your peripherals are plugged into a Thunderbolt docking station. And you'd still end up paying less for this setup than a fanless case.
@@sUmEgIaMbRuS and there'd be no limit in the configurations you could run. A workstation with a bunch of 3090-s, 32/64 cores, beast PSU, a few 140 mm intake/exhaust fans - whatever, still totally silent for the end user (and the room the user is in needs less cooling too). There's just no practical (without going crazy with the size maybe) way to do anything approaching that with fanless cases.
@@sUmEgIaMbRuS Not everybody lives in north american toy houses tho. Running cables in regular old brick-built houses is a PITA. If you're already renovating this might be a great idea, but other than that I'd prefer such a case by a long shot.
100% i will buy one of this. But i nice addition would be for the heatsinks to come in parts. So i can upgrade for more "cooling" and also to make it weight less for transport.
My friend came pretty close to these levels of silence in the mid-2000s with his Zalman Reserator setup. He had no CPU, GPU or case fans at all. The Reserator itself was a giant, passively cooled water cooling setup (calling a "Reserator" because it was a reservoir and a radiator all rolled into one.) You could keep it a good distance away from you and the PC as well, so the very quiet pump inside the unit could not be heard at all (even up close, you couldn't really hear it to begin with.) His PSU technically had a fan, but it would practically never spin up (only spun up if it got hot enough, which it never seemed to do even playing stuff like Doom 3 which was relatively newer and demanding at the time.) It was a pretty sweet setup and still one of the most silent gaming experiences I've ever heard/seen. I wonder if Linus ever heard of or reviewed the Reserator.
If you're going to handicap a 3080 by having it run at 1000-1200mhz, when it would normally be boosting between 1800-2000mhz, just use a 3070. It's only a 220w TDP card and it'd probably end up running faster than a severely gimped 3080 without the need for a fan.
I feel like they could bring the numbers down a bit if the sinks had center hole open chimney columns to allow unrestricted convection airflow. The higher rate of air flow will move heat faster, bringing in more fresh air by proximity to engage with the sink fins. This design might even be improved upon by introducing helical fins along the chimneys to encourage cyclonic vortex airflow for an even higher flow rate.
16:30 The accepted standard for demonstrating passive air movement should universally be a pinwheel happily tumbling along. Like in the video Alex did with the Compulab Airtop 3.
What i learned today is, dont ever ride with Linus and talk to him at the same time. Cause he hit everything that could be hit in that game whenever he turned to camera
I’d be curious what this thing could do with an insulated 4-6” duct, that rose basically as high as possible. Ideally you’d have this computer in your basement, and 6” insulated duct popping out of your roof. With all that stack effect, you might actually be able to get some pretty decent airflow, from the temperature and thus boyancy difference alone Especially if it was cold out, you could have a second duct as well pulling air from the same height, cold air would sink, hot air would rise.
Bro don't bully this kid this hurts has happened to a pretty famous youtuber I know he focused on the bad comments and killed himself plz for you it's 5 letters for the reciever it's a possible reason to commit s***ide
Yeah, I’ve had a small studio for years, with various PCs, and have always been searching for the most silent setup, but what I’ve found is that below a certain amount, fan noise isn’t an issue. I’ve got a mid tower (i7 7700k/1080/WD Black HD suspended in a bungie cradle) with several large, good quality fans and a massive Noctua heatsink on the CPU, and it’s basically inaudible under normal load. I don’t think you need to spend this much cash and put up with weird installation to get a nearly silent PC. My two cents anyway. By the way, I totally like this case 🙂.
@@vooveks Yeah, usually a spinning hard drive is the noisiest component, followed by the power supply. I'd think that using just SSDs and the fanless PSU would be mostly quiet.
I use a AIO water cooler on the CPU and a water block on the GPU, both 360mm with Noctua fans. It is completely silent at 800rpm and they only spin up when I overclock the 6900xt GPU. I'm also benchmarking 10 percent higher than a stock system while silent. I game on it and no noise. Some games I overclock and the Noctua spin to 1100 and you can barely hear them. I set the fans curves to keep the coolant below 45 degrees, starting to spin up at 40.
@@teranokitty I've noticed my gpu fans being the only loud ones under load and I have a good airflow case. I'm waiting for the day that a stock gpu cooler being quiet under load
As someone who backed the nsg s0 after seeing your video and lost the full €600 I want to say I never and would never blame LTT. You showed a cool product and talked about it in good faith. The company being a bunch of con artists is nothing to do with you. You were sent a working prototype after all!
Everyone: "Wow, an entirely passively cooled computer! Now I don't have to listen to all that noise that I'd have with fans!" Me, who literally sleeps with three box fans on high in my room: "Ok, cool, but what happens if we attach a bunch of fans to it?"
linus i love you guys, the whole team is awesome and I really appreciate what you all do for this community. ive learned quite a lot from watching your videos and also get some good laughs during these rough times. thank you for that
@@programmingfromnull9784 I was making a bad pun, what's why I particularly phrased it "hating on". cooling fans VS viewer / fans of his work Explaining it probably doesn't make this pun any better tho... but neither did your nitpicky explanation of something all too obvious, which, btw, is flawed. I'd argue the noise of fans leads to a hating of the fans themselves. It's an essential characteristic. People hate that Ted Bundy killed people. But they also hate Ted Bundy for killing people. The noise of a fan is not a seperate entity to hate. You can also appreciate fans for their cooling capabilities while disliking/hating them for their noise levels.
@qtsssim Quality fans from a reputable company have incredible durability. We're talking like, tested and rated for 10 YEARS nonstop operation without failure. Granted, they will still inevitably fail, but most gamers are going to replace their GPU/CPU and move to a new CPU before any fan fails. But again, that's only for quality fans made with quality components. If you cheap out on using $4 fans from Amazon you are asking for failure.
If I had to design this case I would probably have put a 140 fan mount on the bottom portion of the front panel and perforation along the rest that way air could make its way through the heat sink and not have to make its way through the bottom.
@@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 You still have molecules of air moving around naturally due to convection/thermodynamics, so the electron argument is irrelevant (which Aperson already destroyed you on in the comment above me, IF you still want to go there.)
Yoo bro I game on a ps4 and have never experienced an actual rig like this but I watch all of your videos dreaming of the day I will get a built PC for myself. This particular build I've watched several times loving the unconventional but still clean and silent build. Love and support guys 🙏🙏
I suspect it will be the same as trying to cool a PC with a fridge. It cannot exchange heat fast enough. It's one thing to bring down the temperature of room, it's another thing entirely to bring down the temperature of a chip that will shoot above 100°C in seconds if not checked. In other words, would not get much benefit (if any at all) over just having a fan in the case.
@@CanIHasThisName What I'm thinking of is different from just slapping a PC into a fridge. First, I'm talking hooking it to a household unit, something that can cool much more than 1000W of heat load. Second, I'm talking directly hooking it to the refrigerant line so that the refrigerant actually runs into the computer and directly runs through cooling blocks on the components. That's going to be way way more effective then trying to cool the air to then cool the PC.
@@LanceThumping I'm sure someone has tried this. GN Steve was pouring liquid nitrogen right onto a CPU just a couple years ago, so there are certainly people willing to go to extremes.
@@CanIHasThisName that's true, but it's also where a Peltier cooler might work quite well, since the cooling performance can be electronically PID controlled in an instant in response to sensor inputs.
@@Layarion Linus did this test specifically with a 3080 which has a very high power draw. Smack a 3070TI in there and you might be alright without any fans.
Revisit - In a way calios mis-actions may result in a better product in the end for Monsterlabo who really seem to care about getting it right and handling issues that may come along in a fast efficient manner. I love a quiet pc, mine has two low rpm quiet case fans, the video card fan and the power supply fan and from 3 to 5 feet away it is virtually silent - but in all fairness im not a gamer anymore so its pretty easy to get a near silent PC with my minimal demands these days.
I personally don't think this will be interesting to those who aren't already interested in a true silent rig. The weight, the size, the need to carefully pick a motherboard that will be fine without air blowing over it.
@@MattWithTheCat4541 The thing to consider then would be the price of dusting against the price of the case plus the extra time needed to assemble it and do any kind of component changes.
I'd love to see a gamers Nexus style thermal breakdown of all the board components. See if you'd be shortening the life span of those parts running it in a passive system like this.
@Real Numbers - I've seen them do some pretty intensive testing when it matters, but some of the comments I've seen from the TH-cam audience would suggest the secondary point is spot on. There were commenters defending Dellienware recently... AND they made it some big political thing to boot. Brainlets.
@@SeamusCameron Half are bots, the other half are paid commenters. LTT is a cesspool of the most toxic social validators of the tech industry influencing public opinion.
I wasn't paying attention so I was wondering about that when they were mounting it 🤣 Thank you for pointing that out! And sorry Linus for doubting you there.
You guys need to watch Steve's vid on liquid metal application - you need to insulate the SMDs around the die with tape/nail polish, spread the metal across the entire die and apply some to the heatsink. It'll generally require more clamping force too. But someone at LMG probably knows all this!
It reminds me of my first PC build as a kid. I went around look for parts in recycling bins and cobbled together a PC. It had no fans but it had a massive heat sink and some sort of metal tubing throughout. Never understood what all of that was about
He can if he's actually paying attention. I think constantly having to talk, think on responses, and look at the camera with people around may hinder anyone's gaming lol
I would be interested in any updates on this case. Also would love to see an update video and a test with a high end Ryzen Processor. Thanks for great content!
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1:29 "I think it looks fantastic"
Actually, It's only tastic.
good one
Nice that was good
I like great puns - but in this case, I’m not a fan
poor PC, it's absolutely fanless.
@@Paulkjoss LMFAO
I was an intern at Calyos back when the Kickstarter was still live. On one hand there was a management that didn't know where they wanted to go or what market to aim to. Starting more projects than the engineers and the budget could handle.
On the other hand there was the team of passionated engineers who really wanted to create something truly innovative and perfected until the last screw. Sadly, the latter couldn't cope with the first and it ended up with the mess Linus told.
I'm really glad the team got able to start a spin off that is working and actually delivering the products. I'm sure they will achieve great stuff!
Thanks for the insight! -CW
Lol
Let me guess.... were they MBA majors?
those guys are cancers in such companies
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Almost all tech companies that prioritise management and marketing over the engineering, fail.
jokes on you, linus.
electrons still move through the parts
Lol good one
Not to mention convection which causes air to move through it.
Damnit you beat me to the funny comment
Don't worry, he will drop the electrons
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Hi Linus,
you can actually make hot airflow visible by schlieren optics.
It's an inexpensive camera technique and you can find a lot of diy instruction on the internet.
I don't really know at what temperature differences it becomes really useful but it's worth a try.
In my opinion this would have been awesome for this case but there will probably be more opportunities for that.
What a grand idea! Schlieren imagery is amazing, I'd LOVE to see it integrated into the channel - especially for these passive cooling systems.
Linus must do this now, so we can see passive airflow
Gamers Nexus has used this
or use Smoke !!
@@raul0ca I was about to say this ! He showed how the big Noctua passive cooler was efficient with this method =)
"There's just no other way to get this kind of silent gaming experience." says the man with a gaming server located in a separate room of his house
There are also other passivly cooled cases on the market.
@@johngangemi1361 But that's the same way, just from another manufacturer.
His car must surely have one too... you never know when you're gonna need that high-bandwidth "mobile storage"
Sure there isnt. *grabs gameboy*
That's a different kind of silent gaming experience then.
Remember whole house water cooling...
How about whole house passive cooling.
Live in northern India we have passive cooled houses
Joke's on you. Whole house passive cooling is a thing, and it's built into the Earthship House standard.
That would be every house if they aren't running AC or have a fan inducing airflow from outside.
Honestly, if you are willing to make small modifications to your house, and your computer is on an external wall, its not THAT hard to learn to make a temperature dependant controller, and create a computer with quick connect and disconnect valves that can be cooled by a massive radiator in your house or outside depending on which one is cooler at the time.
Ultimately, unless you're going sub-ambient, massive radiators outside the case is where its at anyway... It's just not very practical if you want to be able to mess with the case unless you make a quick disconnect design (And are willing to punch a hole or two in any case for the lines to be run, since I don't know any cases that account for this design by default, though I'm sure there's some exotic cooling cases out there I haven't heard of).
The expense is pretty minimal. So is the technical know-how, it would take 3 hours of watching TH-cam videos for an amateur to get the basics and be able to do this. The real issue is mostly aesthetic, property ownership (Can't likely do this with a rental), and not having the energy to make time to do this sort of enthusiast crap.
I sympathize... I need to replace the coolant in my waterloop, and have needed to for about a year now, but I constantly put it off... So its easy to imagine how even if you know how to do a thing and its not "that hard" its easier to just watch others do it and forget about doing it yourself XD.
@@dragoonsunite There's a lot of cases that used to have holes for that
Linus getting real close with his mic to present how there is absolutely no noise coming from the PC.
Me approving his claim watching on a laptop running with fans at 5000 rpm.
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Are you sure you're not accidentally using a hoverboard?
As a materials engineer, this was a very honest review. I kept thinking "ok, show us the thermal camera then I'll believe it" and within a minute, out comes the FLIR. After he tried Cyberpunk the first time and changed some stuff and said "it's a lot better now" I thought "ok, let's see it again then" and then he showed it again. Amazing. Great work!
As a Mars explorer, I find your comment weird. What does you being a 'materials engineer' have anything to do with the review and what you said?
@@ivanbenja4 as an engineer he likes to see the data
@@ivanbenja4 materials engineers make and test the stuff that enables builds like this. Thermal conductivity is their bread and butter.
They should have a fan controller and an old school “turbo” button built in. Normal mode is passive, turbo mode will turn on fans
You discover how watercooling works xD
@@josselinplanet8240 - Ummm... that's just how radiative cooling works. The fans just supply more airflow than naturally occurs given the temperature and pressure differences (warm air expands and rises, cold air condenses and sinks). Watercoolers are just radiative coolers with an actual liquid as the heat transfer medium. Heat pipes use vacuum assisted gas as a transfer medium.
You can have a water cooling system function even without fans running.
@@josselinplanet8240 What the actual hell? He's clearly describing a button that turns on and off the fans...
I hate when idiots say condescending shit but don't even know what the heck they're talking about.
Button on. Fan on. Button off. Fan off.
Water cooling is, as he described, a radiator with liquid flowing through it to allow heat transfer.
@@DavidFrycSaber i hate idiot than don’t understood humor.
Et puis de toutes façon je ne comprends rien à ce que vous dites.
@@josselinplanet8240 no one understood your humor, you really think everyone else is an idiot, or do you think your joke just sucked?
p.s. watercooling is just aircooling with an extra step
The glass almost drops and Linus' first instinct is to say "It wasn't me!". This man has been through it 😂
he said it so seriously lmao
He's been dropping stuff on video for years and sometimes breaks really expensive stuff. It's a long running gag. Might as well call him Loose Hands Linus.
@@infn LTT Loose Tossing Tech
@@kampcom7743 Let's Toss Tech
@@infn Did he actually kill something by dropping it?
I remember something about killing a 10k$ CPU, but iirc that had some other reason.
I love how Linus starts questioning life just because he’s putting a pc together on a different order
@Just Dope no it isn't stfu
xd
Such as, *wHO iS tHe SpONsoR??*
I would too
Yeah he's not a *fan*
My favorite part about this case is that when you look at the specs, the weight says "Heavy (approx)".
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Heheehehehhehehehehebnenenskks
In fairness, heavy is only approximate as it's relative somewhere along a scale of maybe 'very heavy' to a 90lb skinny teenager to relatively light to a 300lb+ bodybuilder
Y'all should revisit this like a year later and see how the quality has improved
Or if it even exists at all.
Bankruptcy
I hope not.
@@Nismopower93 Challenge accepted!
they are still alive
“What I wanted was for it to be fanless”
Well Linus it would’ve been if you didn’t put in parts that were 2x what it was rated for
Well they did mention it should handle a 3080 didn't they?
Yeah, I'm curious how well it would handle more reasonable specs like a 5600x and a 3070 which are both well below the fanless threshold.
I think he did to show the full potential of the case, they sure know the reasonable thing to to is to put up to a 5800X and 3070 in there. Both with some kind of power tweaks for efficiency
Fans mounted in it should be placed at the bottom of the heat-sinks mid cast to quiet it up a little more. Pure positive and negative pressure make more sound. Stick them in the middle. Plus you can see that sweet sweet RGB lol.
@@devilmikey00 To be fair, the case costs almost $900. Lower tier hardware would certainly perform better, but then you'd be in the position of your case making up a huge portion of the cost of the entire computer. It's just not practical to spend that much on a case only to put mid-tier components in it. So really, it's in the awkward space of being too expensive to the components it's effective for.
Gaming PC with no moving parts...
Combine that with a game with no moving players and you've found the perfect shooter for Linus.
Just hop on modern warfare and you got it 👍
Did you forget how he destroyed most people at Halo lol
Underrated comment
Gottem.
@@AlcorSalvador weren't those bots
I think the best solution to installation troubles is modularity. The heatsinks and front I/O PCB should be removable. Then you mount them outside the case to the boards, then attach the heatsinks to the case. This would greatly simplify installation, lessen the minimum carrying weight of the case, and localize defects for more efficient part replacement. I would also really like to see options for an ATX backplate for rigidity so we're not putting on a lot of PCB stress.
I am just so impressed how linus at 21:15 managed to hit all openings in the highway inadvertently. For me it's a bit sad they didn't spend the time to just undervolt the system. It is such an underused method to improve your gaming experience. And in this case a good undervolt could have potentially made the fan unnecessary.
tweaking the northbridge has become a lost art
I am so confused by undervolting. Why would you undervolt over just decreasing the power slider?
@@crowntotheundergroud Having high thermals lowers performance. So if you undervolt it it gives you lower thermals and consistent performance
@@ox3213 thx very weird cause initially u’d expect more volts to equal higher more stable frequencies, but it’s about finding that sweet spot
@@crowntotheundergroud a lot of manufacturers will send cards or cpus out with too much voltage from the factory. Each card is different so finding the minimal stable voltage for a given clock speed will give you the lowest temperatures and best performance
Finally, a gaming rig for submarine crews.
just put a thermal pad/paste between the heat sinks and the side of the submarine and now its "water cooled" sorta
@@Hank123West Heat exchanger would probably be a good option.
Can you explain why?
@@int3rned497 Submarines generally run in stealth/quiet mode once it leaves its countries waters.
When a submarine is in this mode any sort of noise can alert enemy destroyers or submarines nearby to its presence, which can result in the submarine being found out and even fired upon. Thus silence is paramount on a submarine especially so when it’s operating in hostile waters
@@TheNpcNoob But the engines generate much more noise than any gaming PC ever, as such it should be fine with the loudest PC fans to exist.
Sure, it can handle a Ryzen or a 11th Gen Core.
But, can it handle something like a Pentium IV or an FX processor?
Woah woah woah let's not get crazy. -CW
@@LinusTechTips true, those things are the true space heater cpus
you need at least one fan though 😭
actually those are really good processors.
to keep my cofee hot.
Yup
Makes me wonder how much cooler it would be if you added two super quiet 140mm noctua fans on bottom blowing up and a small rpm. It would still be damn near completely silent still and with that much static cooling working that well, I wonder if it would cool even better than a traditional fan setup.
youre on point man, it would be so much better than traditional, because traditional are 120mm, your have 140, and traditional has just tiny coolers so hugely less cooling ability ♥️ i absolutely love your future setup with 140mm fans ♥️
This thing is sick. I'm stoked to see how much this'll get fleshed out in a few years.
This type of cooling is used a lot for industrial computers. Almost all of them are passively cooled for reliability and contamination control.
@@johngangemi1361 true, but those are less demanding use cases. Gaming uses way more power.
The cool thing about linus, is that he shows how a common end user,not a professional, may istall components.
What a roast lol
Lmbo, dunking on linus.
PORSSEFIONAL
The other thing about these videos I've come to appreciate is they aren't puffing up the item he's talking about... he's discussing the pros AND cons - what some people may not like!
Personally, I'm not sure I'd want to take a chance at my CPU burning out for a quieter rig... I play music and videos all the time anyway, usually have enough noise that the fans aren't that noticeable... but at the same time, I can hear if something's off, or if the CPU fan kicks high (usually a warning I have too many tabs open in Chrome more than anything else.)
I had a machine fry on me once because the PS fan "stopped"
How did I find out? Had cause to put my hand at the back of the machine at that part and it was very hot.... In fact I shut the machine down, and the power supply never supplied power again after that... the capacitors cracked. (Four of them...Not one, not two, ... FOUR.) And that was the quietest PS I've had.
SO... it's my perspective... but that much space for cooling just to not have noise? I can see something like that being used in a studio where you're recording... but not in a normal home of office.
Now the _tech_ would be great for an office... All passive cooling would reduce need for fans, reduce overall noise, and provide a hand warmer in the winter months. It won't be without its uses. But for home? ....I can leave it.
you realize this guy has probably built nearly a thousand gaming pcs? And would definitely be considered professional at doing so
Just imagine spending all of this money and going through all of this effort for a silent PC... And then booting it up to screaming coil whine
Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue
My 980 Ti is VERY coil whiny from time to time
@@ShoorfLonelyLokly i read this is coil whine voice
put some dry ice on it
Should I be concerned about coil noise? My EVGA 980 SC makes a kind of rapid ticking noise, like 15 hertz or so, and it changes sound depending on the GPU load and scene content and stuff. It's probably got several thousand hours on it and it hasn't changed in that time, so I'm not concerned, but I'm wondering if I actually ought to be worried about it.
DIY Perks has an amazing "breathing" PC build and it's not just silent but beautiful too! Honestly, I always wished you would collab with them.
That case would be very very expensive and hard to make
You could always set the fan curves, so that on light load the fans would be off, and would ramp up to 500-800 rpm on heavier loads. That way i think you could get the best of both worlds
No motherboard that I know of actually has a fan stop/off function though...
@@everope Gigabyte Z-170SLI… goes down to 0% power on BIOS & in software… so now you know a grand total of 1 😅
the difference between no noise and 800rpm is still audible
My Gigabyte B550M PRO-P has it. And it works on my noctua ULN fans. Stupid gpu is now the loudest thing in the case.
I wonder how this kind of case would perform with a giant fan that's like 200 mm, they exist for some custom cases and they're significantly quieter than 120 mm.
I can see an instant use of this for a silent dialog editing / sound editing computer. We can throw a Ryzen 5950X and a mid-low graphic card like GTX1660 Super and here you have a very powerful sound editing PC with perfect silence where you don't have to fight to hear your ambiances at -50dBFS :)
That's exactly why it caught my attention, not for gaming but for a studio computer. At over €700, it is too much since GPU isn't a factor but I just checked on their website and they make a smaller version called 'the first' which would be ideal and is just over half the price!
I mean, for the price I'd have the PC in another room.
@@c4_yrslf726 Sure, you're right, that's an option. I've done this myself on many occasions, but that involves compromise too, latency for example; I had to use 15m DVI and USB extenders to do that in my space.
My studio is worth considerably more than 350, I have power conditioners that I have spent more on. When I upgrade my studio pc next, I think I could justify it to myself based on the gains.
I'm not saying it isn't a lot of money, it is, but if you've already invested in expensive studio gear, compromising the music to save on a pc case doesn't make sense. Running long cables or worse, wireless, is not a like-for-like alternative.
Of course, that all depends on how you make music.
@@bizarrefruit just use remote desktop. no cables are needed. costs u nothing.
@@martinskoog1777 Thanks, but remote desktop wouldn't work.
I started explaining why but I doubt you care about my music gear so I wont go into details.
Just trust me, cables are not optional in my studio, thankfully, noisy computer cases are.
This is actually one of the coolest setups I've ever seen, even if I'd never build it.
Actually there is one other way to get complete silence. run your hdmi cables through a wall and game from another room
under the door
Look at mister rich with 2 rooms.
"PC Built By Movie Magic"
The LTT version of going into Creative Mode and saying "So, I did some crafting off stream"
LMFAO
"So I learned how to bhop..."
@@CHRISTPUNCHER18 "Have you seen this? Amazing."
This would be super useful for recording setups. There's nothing worse than having fan noise in the background of your recording. And yes, I know you can put the tower in a separate room, or isolate it somehow, but that isn't always an option for some people; Especially for those of us who use a home studio.
this was a mad problem id have whilst trying to record youtube videos with my ps4 next to me, it was like i was on a airforce base speaking next to a harrier jet taking off
Yes! also, dont use a HDD because the spinning disks make some noise and vibrate!
That is actually an impressive piece of kit. The price, even for the Insane pre-build, is actually pretty reasonable, particularly when you see what RTX 3080's alone retail for. Were I to be considering another buiid I'd be hard pushed to rule this out. Thanks for sharing.
Well when it is coming from China they can source a 3080 easy since they can grab one from the many sub-OEM vendors from nearby from where they are built, but I'd be careful as it could be a small-china only oem so you take the risk. If they are providing a normal oem card that would be better (haven't check what they provided. Kinda bad to have china build everything from 95% of med stuff to tech stuff as they get dibs first - have to be lucky it ships and is available and at a good price (similar to china blocking shipment of masks with covid).
@@JohnAdams-qc2ju Interesting thoughts. Maybe the case alone will come back into stock someday, then I can source the parts myself.
Why would the inflated price of the 3080 justify the price of this in any way?
whats the price of it
@@LKonstantina915 According to the website, 750.00 Euros
Even if not a lot of people end up buying this, the concept and proven delivery is so important for the evolution of Personal Computing. This is remarkable, and hats off to the engineers.
I love that you walked me through the hype towards seriously considering whether this case would be the right case for me. Maybe in future, but for now it's a dream!
21:14 Three times in a row. Pro gamer Linus. :D
In fairness, that 3rd time he walked away from the PC
How I drive irl
@@muzzers2776 sounds expensive
i knew this comment would exist he really was focused to
I feel kinda bad that this case has no fans.
It’s such a cool case.
It has fans on top that starts working under load if you desire
Your joke almost went over my head
@@Artaxo already went over mine apparently lol
@@aslancem Fans as in fanatics, because it is such a cool case...
😹
Okay, wow. Honestly, I didn't expect it to really work at all and this is pretty impressive! Because silent PCs = love. Silent gaming PCs is... extreme amounts of love.
Honestly a big case, and heatsinks with a few notuca fans with the low volt adapters at like 15db - you can certainly have a slient gaming PC (like the Fratucal cases with sound foam inside - it'll make it sound like nothing. You just need a decent case slient case for cheaper: big cpu heatsink with proper low volt fans, either fanless powersupply or overbuilt high watt powersuppoy that enables no fan below like X watt usaged (IE 1500 watt powersupplies often don't turn their fans on until 750watt) few low volt case fans, 3x wide PCI slot GPU with good fans (they are a few) that will run nearly silent and you can adjust the fan curve on like msi afterburner if needed. Just those items will basically limit the fans to around 15db and with a 'slient case' you couldn't hear anything unless your background db level is VERY silent (which most are not) unless you put your ear next to a vent and would only be able to hear a little fan noise then. This review case is stupid -you can do the same thing with just picking the right parts with fans.
Being someone that gets incredibly annoyed by high frequency noise, I think a 100% passive cooling case would drive me nuts. At least fans drown out all but the worst coil whine etc.
Just get some noise cancelling headphones. Those get rid of fan noise as well.
a small speaker playing white noise might help
In most scenarios, like in this one, you need to dial down the power a bit and that makes the coil whine largely go away. Also, like Linus said, some parts have very little coil whine to begin with and it seems there are increasingly more of these. I have a DB4 passive case and used to have a GTX 1080 in there that could seriously crackle and fizz. Now I have a RTX 3060 Ti and that is completely silent, only when you put your ear to it can you hear a slight buzz/crackle.
@@kasimirdenhertog3516 pretty sure that's just luck of the draw. My RX 6800 XT whines like no other, so did my RX 5700XT and my GTX 1060.
@@mythicalsnake8656 perhaps try a 30 series card next? ;-)
Yes, it's still a bit of a lottery. I also have 3090 and that has a pretty apparent whine too.
This is a lot easier than Linus’ solution of putting the pc in a different room and running super long cables.
Hard problems requires creative solutions
Heat would still be an issue though.
To be fair, Linus' solution is actually more down-to-Earth IMO. With optical Thunderbolt cables being a thing, you can have your PC in the basement next to the already noisy HVAC machinery (you could even hook the cooling up to the AC directly if you're feeling fancy), and have a single fiber optic cable running to your desk where all your peripherals are plugged into a Thunderbolt docking station. And you'd still end up paying less for this setup than a fanless case.
@@sUmEgIaMbRuS and there'd be no limit in the configurations you could run. A workstation with a bunch of 3090-s, 32/64 cores, beast PSU, a few 140 mm intake/exhaust fans - whatever, still totally silent for the end user (and the room the user is in needs less cooling too). There's just no practical (without going crazy with the size maybe) way to do anything approaching that with fanless cases.
@@sUmEgIaMbRuS Not everybody lives in north american toy houses tho. Running cables in regular old brick-built houses is a PITA.
If you're already renovating this might be a great idea, but other than that I'd prefer such a case by a long shot.
I love designs that are function over form, this looks awesome
This is not so much design over function, though. That is to say, it's still quite a looker
@@DizzyBusy agreed. i think it's a very pretty slick case.
Unless that function is other add-on PCIe cards.
100% i will buy one of this. But i nice addition would be for the heatsinks to come in parts. So i can upgrade for more "cooling" and also to make it weight less for transport.
"There's no other way to get this kind of silent gaming experience"
Just give DIYPerks all of your beer already.
Seriously, I want to see Linus review that build.
Yep. That air isolation is good.
DiYPerks' build isn't really silent though, due to the vents :(
@@Appri silent >>>>> fanless
My friend came pretty close to these levels of silence in the mid-2000s with his Zalman Reserator setup. He had no CPU, GPU or case fans at all. The Reserator itself was a giant, passively cooled water cooling setup (calling a "Reserator" because it was a reservoir and a radiator all rolled into one.) You could keep it a good distance away from you and the PC as well, so the very quiet pump inside the unit could not be heard at all (even up close, you couldn't really hear it to begin with.)
His PSU technically had a fan, but it would practically never spin up (only spun up if it got hot enough, which it never seemed to do even playing stuff like Doom 3 which was relatively newer and demanding at the time.) It was a pretty sweet setup and still one of the most silent gaming experiences I've ever heard/seen. I wonder if Linus ever heard of or reviewed the Reserator.
I'll admit that i'll never be able to afford most stuff on this channel, so I feel like I'm tuning in for the segues
If you're going to handicap a 3080 by having it run at 1000-1200mhz, when it would normally be boosting between 1800-2000mhz, just use a 3070. It's only a 220w TDP card and it'd probably end up running faster than a severely gimped 3080 without the need for a fan.
I feel like they could bring the numbers down a bit if the sinks had center hole open chimney columns to allow unrestricted convection airflow. The higher rate of air flow will move heat faster, bringing in more fresh air by proximity to engage with the sink fins. This design might even be improved upon by introducing helical fins along the chimneys to encourage cyclonic vortex airflow for an even higher flow rate.
16:30 The accepted standard for demonstrating passive air movement should universally be a pinwheel happily tumbling along. Like in the video Alex did with the Compulab Airtop 3.
or use smoke
@@Oxim-fz3so no way! that would leave behind resin, which would increase temperatures.
11:15 I'm actually not that surprised; I always pick a board up by the mounted CPU heatsink as it's basically the most solid thing on there.
He does that himself as well. So yea, dunno why it was surprising to anyone. Without the GPU, the Mobo is fairly light.
it's harnessing the 'stack effect' or the 'chimney effect' in passive cooling/ natural convection... nice!!!
For me it would be much more interesting to test the case with components that match the predicted dissipation.
What i learned today is, dont ever ride with Linus and talk to him at the same time. Cause he hit everything that could be hit in that game whenever he turned to camera
1:55 Smoothest catch ever? I had to replay it just to admire it once more
Linus : "often you can tell case was designed by engineers"
* After few Seconds *
"It Looks *Fan-tastic* "
Yeah that was the joke
not funny
didn't laugh
I’d be curious what this thing could do with an insulated 4-6” duct, that rose basically as high as possible. Ideally you’d have this computer in your basement, and 6” insulated duct popping out of your roof.
With all that stack effect, you might actually be able to get some pretty decent airflow, from the temperature and thus boyancy difference alone
Especially if it was cold out, you could have a second duct as well pulling air from the same height, cold air would sink, hot air would rise.
A computer chimney? I like it!
"Who is our sponsor?!"
Cracked me up. Sounded so confused. Ty Linus
There isn’t a day where a I don’t want to know what weird segue he comes up with
40 Pounds!!
"First, you'll need a table"
Stefan: Who's laughing now, beeotch!
cringe
@@louisemond9451 cringe
imagine using the word cringe unironically
@@avatard.chiken4811 Agreed, very cringe
Bro don't bully this kid this hurts has happened to a pretty famous youtuber I know he focused on the bad comments and killed himself plz for you it's 5 letters for the reciever it's a possible reason to commit s***ide
I've now been religiously watching LTT for 4 years. Love you guys!
I hate bots
Not to brag but I've been subbed since 2008 when he made the channel
@@BlindingWulf ikr?
@@XLostGamer How is your account made then on Apr 28, 2011
@@XLostGamer just got caught in your own lie
I'm in awe at the fact that they'd put solid side panels on this thing.
This would be nice for a music studio! I have been dreaming of a completely silent PC for a while.
Yeah, I’ve had a small studio for years, with various PCs, and have always been searching for the most silent setup, but what I’ve found is that below a certain amount, fan noise isn’t an issue. I’ve got a mid tower (i7 7700k/1080/WD Black HD suspended in a bungie cradle) with several large, good quality fans and a massive Noctua heatsink on the CPU, and it’s basically inaudible under normal load. I don’t think you need to spend this much cash and put up with weird installation to get a nearly silent PC. My two cents anyway. By the way, I totally like this case 🙂.
@@vooveks Yeah, usually a spinning hard drive is the noisiest component, followed by the power supply. I'd think that using just SSDs and the fanless PSU would be mostly quiet.
I use a AIO water cooler on the CPU and a water block on the GPU, both 360mm with Noctua fans. It is completely silent at 800rpm and they only spin up when I overclock the 6900xt GPU. I'm also benchmarking 10 percent higher than a stock system while silent. I game on it and no noise. Some games I overclock and the Noctua spin to 1100 and you can barely hear them. I set the fans curves to keep the coolant below 45 degrees, starting to spin up at 40.
@@teranokitty I've noticed my gpu fans being the only loud ones under load and I have a good airflow case. I'm waiting for the day that a stock gpu cooler being quiet under load
You guys are such *fans* of these cases
As someone who backed the nsg s0 after seeing your video and lost the full €600 I want to say I never and would never blame LTT. You showed a cool product and talked about it in good faith. The company being a bunch of con artists is nothing to do with you. You were sent a working prototype after all!
I like this more "handheld" style of video shooting you guys are doing. And it's nice to see a return to more relatable content.
19:20 Yeah, quite the "handheld" setup 😂
this was such a classic case review, I kept seeing beardless Linus over his current look
Everyone: "Wow, an entirely passively cooled computer! Now I don't have to listen to all that noise that I'd have with fans!"
Me, who literally sleeps with three box fans on high in my room: "Ok, cool, but what happens if we attach a bunch of fans to it?"
You're not thinking big enough. *LIQUID COOLING*
When I heard Labo I immediately thought it was going to be overpriced, self assembly and made of cardboard lol
"WHO IS OUR SPONSOR?"
Guys, who didn't tell Linus?
20:34 its when he started talking about how the rtx3080 in the case jus wasnt doing good and then the "we compromised" that got me 😂
linus i love you guys, the whole team is awesome and I really appreciate what you all do for this community. ive learned quite a lot from watching your videos and also get some good laughs during these rough times. thank you for that
Linus Sebastian: * *building a no moving part desktop* *
Linus Torvalds: * *squeals in delight* *
Is Torvalds hating on his fans? Not nice.
@@lunakoala5053 who said that
@@amoodaa lol Linus Torvalds doesn't like cooling fans...that's the joke
@@programmingfromnull9784 I was making a bad pun, what's why I particularly phrased it "hating on".
cooling fans VS viewer / fans of his work
Explaining it probably doesn't make this pun any better tho... but neither did your nitpicky explanation of something all too obvious, which, btw, is flawed.
I'd argue the noise of fans leads to a hating of the fans themselves. It's an essential characteristic.
People hate that Ted Bundy killed people. But they also hate Ted Bundy for killing people.
The noise of a fan is not a seperate entity to hate.
You can also appreciate fans for their cooling capabilities while disliking/hating them for their noise levels.
@qtsssim Quality fans from a reputable company have incredible durability. We're talking like, tested and rated for 10 YEARS nonstop operation without failure.
Granted, they will still inevitably fail, but most gamers are going to replace their GPU/CPU and move to a new CPU before any fan fails.
But again, that's only for quality fans made with quality components. If you cheap out on using $4 fans from Amazon you are asking for failure.
Not a fan...
Ugh
Quite the Comedian
You must be a heatsink then.
It’s heat🔥🔥, you just got to let it sink in!!
If I had to design this case I would probably have put a 140 fan mount on the bottom portion of the front panel and perforation along the rest that way air could make its way through the heat sink and not have to make its way through the bottom.
"Why Intel? Because we lost the AMD bracket." XD
"this pc has no moving parts"
electrons: fine I'll do it myself
reminds me a bit of my comment
electrons are not matter ergo are not parts.
@@yuukina7624 I wish bots are gone..
@@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 well they do have mass and does interact with other particles so they DO matter
@@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 You still have molecules of air moving around naturally due to convection/thermodynamics, so the electron argument is irrelevant (which Aperson already destroyed you on in the comment above me, IF you still want to go there.)
DIY perks' "BREATHING" pc is also an amazingly silent and high performance
Yoo bro I game on a ps4 and have never experienced an actual rig like this but I watch all of your videos dreaming of the day I will get a built PC for myself. This particular build I've watched several times loving the unconventional but still clean and silent build. Love and support guys 🙏🙏
I'm just waiting for someone to make a system that connects up to a minisplit A/C system so all the cooling is external to the building.
I suspect it will be the same as trying to cool a PC with a fridge. It cannot exchange heat fast enough. It's one thing to bring down the temperature of room, it's another thing entirely to bring down the temperature of a chip that will shoot above 100°C in seconds if not checked. In other words, would not get much benefit (if any at all) over just having a fan in the case.
@@CanIHasThisName What I'm thinking of is different from just slapping a PC into a fridge.
First, I'm talking hooking it to a household unit, something that can cool much more than 1000W of heat load.
Second, I'm talking directly hooking it to the refrigerant line so that the refrigerant actually runs into the computer and directly runs through cooling blocks on the components. That's going to be way way more effective then trying to cool the air to then cool the PC.
@@LanceThumping
I'm sure someone has tried this. GN Steve was pouring liquid nitrogen right onto a CPU just a couple years ago, so there are certainly people willing to go to extremes.
Tech Ingredients did it
th-cam.com/video/DWVfaxqTyl4/w-d-xo.html
@@CanIHasThisName that's true, but it's also where a Peltier cooler might work quite well, since the cooling performance can be electronically PID controlled in an instant in response to sensor inputs.
3:08 - My old ass brain: "That's a lot of serial ports."
I thought the same thing.
I actually need one of those for my pc to connect to my dads old 486 laptop. And can't seem to find one 😂
I thought I was the only one! 🤦
@@m.wajihuddinkhan1857 an serial port expansion card is like 2 bucks. Also it's actually still included on many business oriented motherboards.
Linus just crashing every two seconds in Cyberpunk is something else
"like what even is this piece? Who is our sponsor?!" nominated for greatest segway
Honestly, with those IO plates at the back, i'd rather just run my cables direct and use a rubber grommet or brush for the "seal"
Monsterlabo revealed that solution earlier this week. Don't think it's in production yet but on the way
It's not like you'd need it to be airtight to inhibit dust from getting in. Since there's no fans. So definitely a viable option.
@@samuliauno8163 you need a fan. linus showed that in the video.
@@Layarion Depends on your setup, Linus build is very high end
@@Layarion Linus did this test specifically with a 3080 which has a very high power draw. Smack a 3070TI in there and you might be alright without any fans.
" why intel? cuz we lost the amd bracket"
this is how you know amd is at the top
Yeah I was disappointed. I was keen to see what the 16 core would do in there for video rendering and such.
FOr this test, since Intel is so much less efficient, draws more watts, and puts off more heat, Intel is better
Agreed. If it can handle an 11900K it'll handle R9😂
@@MrHamncheez Hahaha point made
“That’s over 40 freedom pounds” lmaoo
Revisit - In a way calios mis-actions may result in a better product in the end for Monsterlabo who really seem to care about getting it right and handling issues that may come along in a fast efficient manner. I love a quiet pc, mine has two low rpm quiet case fans, the video card fan and the power supply fan and from 3 to 5 feet away it is virtually silent - but in all fairness im not a gamer anymore so its pretty easy to
get a near silent PC with my minimal demands these days.
I think this is a stepping stone to something greater, something a lot of people may become interested in if finetuned some more. Great upload!
I personally don't think this will be interesting to those who aren't already interested in a true silent rig. The weight, the size, the need to carefully pick a motherboard that will be fine without air blowing over it.
@@MattWithTheCat4541 The thing to consider then would be the price of dusting against the price of the case plus the extra time needed to assemble it and do any kind of component changes.
I'd love to see a gamers Nexus style thermal breakdown of all the board components. See if you'd be shortening the life span of those parts running it in a passive system like this.
@Real Numbers - I've seen them do some pretty intensive testing when it matters, but some of the comments I've seen from the TH-cam audience would suggest the secondary point is spot on. There were commenters defending Dellienware recently... AND they made it some big political thing to boot. Brainlets.
@@SeamusCameron Half are bots, the other half are paid commenters. LTT is a cesspool of the most toxic social validators of the tech industry influencing public opinion.
"Because we lost the AMD bracket."
😂
I wasn't paying attention so I was wondering about that when they were mounting it 🤣 Thank you for pointing that out! And sorry Linus for doubting you there.
You guys need to watch Steve's vid on liquid metal application - you need to insulate the SMDs around the die with tape/nail polish, spread the metal across the entire die and apply some to the heatsink. It'll generally require more clamping force too. But someone at LMG probably knows all this!
Now we need a PC that has Only Fans
Haven't you seen that meme pc case?
We need a PC that has Only Fans on Onlyfans.
I saw the title card and came straight here.
We need a case without case fans. Long over due.
@@FrodeBergetonNilsen There are plenty of cases without case fans. They're everywhere and all over this channel.
It reminds me of my first PC build as a kid. I went around look for parts in recycling bins and cobbled together a PC. It had no fans but it had a massive heat sink and some sort of metal tubing throughout. Never understood what all of that was about
The real test would be if Linus can drive in any game without crashing every 5 seconds
He can if he's actually paying attention. I think constantly having to talk, think on responses, and look at the camera with people around may hinder anyone's gaming lol
I would be interested in any updates on this case. Also would love to see an update video and a test with a high end Ryzen Processor. Thanks for great content!
I love that you mentioned Tech Ingredients. Those guys need way more subs for the educative content that they produce!
I feel like this would be really good for music production as well since it's so silent.
you could just use a cardioid, the fans aren't usually loud enough to heard by mics unless directly mic'd
I love seeing Linus talk about something he's REALLY excited about/ interested in.
It is amazing to see so many different types of CPU you can create and Linus explaining everything so easily, Just love Tech.
I just love this case SO much. The modularity is crazy.
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"I think it's all the way in". Classic Linus.
I really hope PC building companies start doing these, cleaning out a PC will become so much more convenient and using it will be so much nicer!
Get ready for coil whine city
I love how linus crashed every opportunity he had when driving in cyberpunk
Oh that sound test with the mic on his chest was so satisfying. Just absolute silence
I would like to see this tested with a 20" box fan attatched to it.
The fact that it will never be dusty seems to be the very best part of it
hmm there might still be bits of dust attracted to it due to the static, but yea it would probably be way better
meanwhile the electrons moving inside the chips : "am i joke to u??"