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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- In today's video we go over the highest DPS and total damage in the game, and to no one's surprise it's an optimal Still Hunt Celestial Nighthawk rotation!
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It's quite easy to tell someone that Still Hunt plus Celestial Nighthawk is the highest DPS in the game and have them put it on, but it takes a little more knowledge to know why this is and what you can do to make things as optimal as possible. For starters, you ought to be on Prismatic since for one, it opens far better ad clear loops than Solar Hunter, and second, you gain access to Facet of Courage, a fragment which grants 10% increased ability damage (including Goldie) to any target affected by a Darkness debuff. Which Darkness debuff you say? Slow and Freeze. Being on Prismatic Hunter allows us to utilize the Hailfire Spike grenade when we become Transcendent, which initially applies gradual Slow stacks then Freezes. Furthermore, being Transcendent also applies a stacking 5% weapon damage buff, so with that plus other things like self-proccing Radiant constantly, self-proccing Weaken constantly and Solar Holster techs, this setup is truly a force to be reckoned with and I'll truly be surprised if it isn't nerfed at some stage in the future. Anyway, please enjoy the build!
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0:00 - 0:56 What Does The Build Do For You?
0:56 - 3:50 Subclass Setup
3:50 - 4:48 Weapons
4:48 - 5:14 Armor Mods
5:14 - 6:04 Importance Of Solar Holster
6:04 - 6:50 Cayde's Retribution Reload Feature
6:50 - 7:08 Importance Of Building Transcendence
7:08 - 8:09 Full Damage Rotation (4.1m, No Surge)
8:09 - 8:35 Note About Consistency
8:35 - 9:14 Damage Rotation Witness Example
9:14 - 9:52 Outro - เกม
Idc what anyone says about using the same loadout getting boring, having the biggest numbers at the end will never get old
Says the average men
As someone who is usually top 2 if not top outright: I don’t care, I just want to get the raid done with. I rather flex mechanics knowledge than being able to click a button.
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The fact we want another pve meta shakeup and it’s only been 2 weeks is type crazy 😂
My favorite people are the ones that have the absolute most random things of all time, they get doubted, then they do best dmg or clear whatever activity far better than anyone. Shoutout to those guys
In the newest episode of Fireteam Chat the Bungie dev (Ben) mentioned that internally they are heavily looking at titans. That’s good news. Maybe cope. But I’m hopeful
Pris Titan in particular needs a good looking over. While the collection of abilities they have is…nice none of them really synergize with each other. Plus the only real healing option it has is knockout which won’t exactly the best even after the change
Knowing bungie, they will either do nothing or so much that people will complain about titans.
"We're nerfing consecration."
@@JPOG7TVthe ideal solution is for them to buff Titans so that they exceed in certain scenarios rather than every scenario
@@dead3716the ultimate Bungie troll
Great detail, thanks so much for putting this together.
Thank you for explaining the explosive light over bait and switch setup!! Was struggling to proc bait and switch during my damage phases
Hey!
I see you're editing more clips of you using the build/explaining the mechanic you're describing. The editing is really well done, and it's probably going to be very helpful for newcomers. Keep up the amazing content!
Bro showed the rotation in a practical setting already love him more than most other people who cover this stuff
Really like showing the DPS rotation against the witness to see what it looks like. Showing the damage total at the end of the witness fight would be great, too
I gotta say, I'm jealous of your room; having that A-frame-esque roof always gives a nice cozy vibe.
Perfect vid for me. Hunter main. Been looking for a good hot swap for DPS and survivability. And thanks for explaining for rotation and subclass detail. Nice video
Thank you so much man !! Easy sub
I got a shiny Midnight Coup with shoot to loot/explosive payload & one for all/desperate measures during onslaught last season. So glad I'm not stuck with Vulpecula. Stellar guide, looking forward to using it!
Possibly in the minority, but I LOVE the current "Still Hunt meta". Snipers have been irrelevant for far too long. Hand Cannon, Sniper, Machine Gun loadout is so satisfying
The point is that it makes hunters a only pick. That's a problem and a big one at that
It’s not snipers being good that people have issue with. When we’re in a sniper meta, that’s when the meta is at its best. It’s the fact that only one class can really take advantage of it.
@@austin5801 I get that. B I'm afraid Bungie's answer would be to nerf Still Hunt over reducing the effectiveness of Nighthawk.
@@austin5801 Only one class had the OP add-clear + suspend build with Striga. Warlocks are also the only class that can really push Euphony to its limit, which has very similar damage output to Celestial Still Hunt loops but with far less player execution/rotation requirements. Titans are really the only class being left behind, but it seems like no one is happy if the Hunter does anything except play Invis Anchor/Invis Annoying Section, huh.
It wasn't op and fell off hard in endgame
Only other thing I'll bring up would be fitting Ruin into the build somewhere, as that will increase your damage with the transcendent grenades ever so slightly with the 12.5% increase to shatter damage. (I'd personally drop dominance as about the only time that's doing anything is after transcendence ends AND after you've thrown and used up the last smoke bomb transcendence gives you, making it more than likely not entirely worth while verses the shatter damage increase. but, also has to be a target that gets frozen and shatters, so there is that). Isolation isn't bad either for None witness boss fights, but yeah! Still insanely potent and your ability to pull off that combo on greg was awesome to see.
Worth mentioning that even though the numbers in game may not reflect it, it does appear from the health bar on bosses that BnS does apply to the first rocket fired to proc it. Source for this was an older Aegis video.
if u feel like getting dark transcendance is still awful i personally use lost signal/grapple in adclear build. U can get full dark transcendence in like 2 shots if ads dont move out of it but 5 shots is like a max
Just to add a little correction, bait an switch does apply on the first rocket, the numbers that appear on contact are not representative, it has being tested and the damage increase does apply to the first rocket but the numbers in the end screen showed that the buff was applied on the first rocket
Is this legit ? Someone confirm this haha
The impact damage of the first rocket procs it, so the explosion has bait.
@@Ace1da_Gaming this is legit and Aegis confirmed this long ago.
@@Ace1da_GamingI don’t recall exactly who showed it, but i saw a video going over dps rotations recently (post TFS) and they mentioned that this is, in fact, true
@@RaisinsDoesDestiny Doesn't apply it because when you shoot the rocket, it retains what buffs it had
Love how he shows a clip of it not being perfect it just makes the build look really nice to use
CATS ARE BACK IN LLAMA VIDEOS?!?!
Where? When?
Ur builds swaps are so cool
Really surprised everyone with this one
I know right!
I remember when everyone was begging for Still Hunt to be a heavy, and everyone assumed it would be meh when they learned it was a special
Love your videos Llama! Thanks for the great content.
You’ve done the warlock comparison to Euphony, what are the best setups and rotations for Titan? (Bungo didn’t show them much love this season, so any advice would be appreciated)
Am working on a video that answers that exact question, expect it soon!
goldie hunters 🗣️🗣️
Can you test bastion (the gun) and peregrine greaves? I've tested it and I'm pretty sure it stacks, but I'm not entirely certain whether or not it's getting the full 100% damage buff due to hitting the damage cap. The timing is also extremely tight, since it takes 2.5 seconds to get the greaves buff and the buff from bastion only lasts 2.7 seconds.
Idea for a video , what can work in the damage phase of the witness , like do the super banner shield ... ect.
Do you have a video comparing still hunt on warlock/titan compared to other simpler options like just using a good linear and sniper?
Please Please PLEASE figure out and tell us what the best damage on warlock and titan would be specific to witness, i have absolutely no clue. much thanks if you do.
keep up the great content :)
I will, working on a future vid on exactly this topic!
Warlock I would say cloudstrike nova with a reconstruction and explosive light crux termination if you don’t have crux use wendigo gl or apex predator as for titan that I’m not sure about yet
Warlock will be euphony when you get it on strand. Titan best seems to be the rocket exotic chest with twilight arsenal
@@LlamaD2THANK YOU!!! BLESS UR CELLS ❤
@@UiBigDanielapex cold comfort > crux if ur not using surrounded slideshot ur better using apex
great video! definitely going to try out the rotation but just a quick question: do you prefer liar's handshake over the exotic class item with caliban's + liar/synthoceps because of the health regen? or would running the exotic cloak be more optimal?
I actually just got a cloak with Caliban + Liar's so that's what I'm gonna be running from now on.
going with prismatic is interesting i didnt think it would be better than solar but it cooks
wait,if u have different grenades,melees for the "up to damage /survive "build,wont you lose all super,abilty energy when hotswapping?
For getting your transcendence quickly a strong kinetic weapon with facet of grace is probably the fastest way I’ve found. I run a midnight coup with explosive + one for all; it hits like a truck I don’t even feel a need to load out swap between phases.
the vulpecula is mostly for shoot to loot AND the ability to generate energy. Midnight coup unfortunately doesnt get shoot to loot + explosive payload. I wish it did
nice one sir
thank you sir
Can’t wait for the bright dust ornament
Would you say that the abyss artifact mod slot with void rocket would net more damage or are the other slots just higher damage over all?
can't think of anything witty. Here is a comment for the algorithm
Pnis
does using multiple of the heavy handed and/or firepower mods make the cooldown between proc's of it shorter? i thought it just made the orb generated by it give more super energy
doesnt having the strand melee that severs enemies also gets u more damage than the snare bomb since we are already running the weaken fragment ?
doing some napkin math based on the GoA Ogre rotation (4.04m) and factoring in getting off 3 cayde's retribution and the 25% celestial nerf (take off around 410.5k), that should end up around 3.64m damage. That puts it slightly ahead of the Warlock SES/Apotheosis rotation (3.4), and actually behind the Titan's Cloudstrike/Crux rotation (3.73)
Updated with the 33% nerf numbers: Take off roughly 530k damage instead of 410k (accounting for the 3rd CR shot being lower damage than the first two) gives us appx 3.54mln damage, giving even more of an edge to Titan
Do you have to throw the hailfire grenade at a certain spot on the witness for it to stick to him?
Also, very off topic but what launch perk, mag and reload do you like on the call?
I just throw it at his general chest area, I think it's quite forgiving though.
For the call I spec entirely into reload speed, so my Masterwork is Reload, launch is Quick Launch and my mag is Flared Magwell.
Could you at some point make a video on a good Prismatic Warlock build? For either general play or DPS, because it feels like outside of the Getaway Artist turret/hellion spam, I haven’t been able to come up with something different.
Go hoil and spam all 3 instead of just grenade. And star eaters for your super
Devower is kinda glued to you but after that you have the electro slide with arcane needle
Treading spam
Once you bring in the class items you can just do more random bs but yes currently without class items the infa turret build is the best neutral game
Yes I will!
amazing build, you think we should invest on the intellect stat given the changes made to super regeneration?
For my pre-DPS build I recently changed to spec into Resilience, then Discipline, then Intellect, since in the context of the Liar's build Strength, Mobility and Recovery don't matter at all.
@@LlamaD2 true 👏🏼👏🏼💪🏻🤘🏻
A nerf I could see happening is slightly buffing damage on regular still hunt and bringing down how much it does paired with celestial.
Also llama, any chance you can do this video for the other 2 classes?
Yes I will be!
As a Titan Main, I just look on in envy and despair
I've been using a variation of this with a Supremacy as the swap weapon for a while now, simply so I can use a Fixed Odds for ad-clear usually it is good enough obviously this setup is leaning harder towards boss dps
Can you do the same for other two classes?
With surges leaving I made sure I got to use my fave rotation of all time last night. Cloudstrike/wendigo. And nuked. All the hunters with still hunt were very confused why titan was top. I like the surges it was fun while it lasted and I bet would be very refreshing once the game begins to get stale late season. what’s the titan meta rotation now llama? Is euphony warlock better than edge transit warlock?
I can’t believe I went from being a og titan main to seeing how bad they did the class and let the other 2 classes do everything better, I recently been playing warlock with Thorn, lightning surge, necrotic grips, and omg the poison build is amazing, I also run a song of flame, dragons breath, sniper build and get about 3million damage plus, devour on warlock is amazing, I been debating trying out hunter cause I really wanna enjoy being that guy to take off a bar on a boss… but idk how would I handle sustain ability and health
how would you gauge this because doing this on bosses like atheons small crit spot or nezarec jumping around most of dps without div unless youre the greatest aimer in the world youd have to take more time to line up a shot i know you said it doesnt have to be a perfect rotation but to actually nitpick the most dps possible it probably has to be boss specific no?
pretty sure could be wrong but the rotation is better if right off the bat you shoot all 6 shots including the caydes shot then swap rocket then swap back shoot 1 then pop cayde
like this cayde goldy shoot both then shoot the rest of your cayde mag swap rocket shoot twice swap back shoot 1 time and pop cayde
Omg Vulpecula my beloved
I love that hand cannon so much, it's my highest kill gun!
greatest HC in the game
microcosm warlocks and levi breath titans with eternal warrior star eaters boutta be the only thing getting close to hunters
Hey man what keeps healing you while the ogre is just unloading his attack you? Is it restoration? If so how does it stay active when you switch to dps class? Super cool vid. You got a like and a subscribe from me!
Nvm youre inside of a well lol
Hey, can you make a video about the best damage rotation for each class?
Yes I will
Couldnt you switch to reload dodge aswell to squeeze In extra rocket? Or if you mess up the stillhunt reload
Yeah for sure
Is it confirmed that the first shot of a BnS rocket doesn’t have the buff? I heard a while ago that even if the damage number doesn’t indicate it, measure the health bar of enemies showed that it did have the buff. I could be wrong about that though
if you shoot a prismatic enemy without being actively prismatic yourself it boosts both light and dark metres significantly faster to enable you to activate your own prismatic. ;)
If I remember correctly someomen(probably aegis) showed bait n switch does still apply on the first shot as it’s being fired. I could be wrong or misremember if anyone could correct me
The impact damage of the rocket triggers B&S so the explosion of that same rocket gets the damage boost. It's probably still slower because you have to also hit with your Primary before swapping. Probably ends up being a wash since you're not keeping your rocket out to dump its mag and Explosive Light is a lot friendlier to your build and rotation.
Gotta love the Still Hunt Exotic Sniper Rifle
What shader is that my Boi 👀
why solar holster over harmonic holster? wouldnt it be the same except a decreased energy cost?
Yeah you can do that!
How come sometimes 6 precision shots is enough to charge still hunt and sometimes it’s more?
what about artifact mods? aweosme video!
Can you make a video of the 6 hunters with the same loadouts? Perhaps you can one phase the witness. Lol
thought it was understood that you shoot celestial gg then still hunt goldie...then dump the 5 still hunt shots/swap to rockets then back to still hunt which will have 1 in the mag from the loader...shoot that shot and pop still hunt gg again which reloads the mag again leaving 5 after the gg shot/and repeat?
Order doesn't matter you just want holster to load the 6th round
Can you do one for warlocks and titans as well?
Yes
should i make another apex pred with explosive light?
what abt for other classes?
Not sure what to do for rockets since I missed Apex
Any rocket with Reconstruction/Auto-Loading Holster is good!
what would be a fair nerf for still hunt? I feel like gimping its damage isnt the way to go. Maybe making it a heavy weapon?
Nah probably increasing the shot count required to charge the Goldie, it'll probably go up to 9 shots instead of 6
i feel like lowering the dmg on nighthawk would be fine, even if its the same total as not using it at all i feel like the value of a better rotation when combined with a rocket would still give some reason to use nighthawk still hunt without having it be so comparatively bad on the other classes
Surges being removed gave me creamy feelings 🤤 (fudge surges)
anybody have numbers on how effective Song of Flame with a demolitionist rocket is? i was wondering about this combination but haven't heard anything about it
Demo as a perk has a 3 second ICD. Not a good combo go for reconstruction.
About 1 million for every rocket launcher guaranteed, the meta ones like 1.1-2million
Though use it with dragons breath then demolition
This is on the list of vids that I'm making!
@@Alckee6904 gotcha, yeah, that might make is less effective. could you shoot a rocket, throw nade, then do the incin snap? i feel like that is moving closer to 2.5 seconds. i'll have to time it later
I don’t own an apex sadly, any suggested alternative?
Any decent rocket with Recon/ALH will work, or even an Edge Transit if you have one.
@@LlamaD2 auto loading would be pointless since you said to use solar holster in video. One cheaper slot if you use harmonic holster if it matches your subclass. I have a good ET but it’s void. Does have envious bait n switch.
Thank you sir. I believe xur has a solar RL in his inventory that might be decent
Please…do something similar for the warlock
Use the euphony with apotheosis + star eaters and throw some rockets after every reload just like still hunt :)
Man this is cool but my aim is trash I’ll stick for more consistent rotations with small crit bosses but for large crit like the witness I’ll 100% use this
I saw someone using storm bringer and crux with recon explosive light do more damage too the witness, am I missing sum
Surges
This week it's Arc Surge that's probably why
Still, it would have been close without
Cloud strike was very good in arc surge and the ro ket just compliments it's another dump all special strat plus suppers
how was rounding 4,042,825 to 4.1m
when do i do loadout switch i lose my melee when i switch
Yes that's normal, when you pop Transcendence you get it back!
how do you delete loadouts?
Go to the loadouts section of DIM, click the 3 dots next to your loadout and then select "Clear Slot".
Uh why is no one talking about that weird wither skeleton in the enclave
It's part of one of the Micah quests lol
Idk if I’m being stupid right, but surely surging everything is the same as surging nothing? Like what’s the point?
Ppl were complaining about surges now they will complain about how every dps rotation will be the same
Knowing bungie that’s all about to get neutered. Or atleast the special sniper
Would any apex work?
ohhh i see as a warlock ill just guess i will take notes haha
Might seem weird but what the best without nighthawk and still hunt?
After that just golden gun lucky pants swaps meta really didn't change from last season we just got a new toy that out does everything on hunter
@@btr1011 yeah probably stick to lucky pants auto edge. did get a star eater/liars class item yesterday might try it with squall and swap lucky pants after super cast kinda combining chicken si2's statis hunter from last season with trancendant/prismatic buffs/survivabilty from this season
How can you switch from liars to nighthawks and keep super?
That’s just how it is, you don’t lose anything
@@LlamaD2 I’ll have to look deeper, using the two builds and loosing super every switch
@@scarfacerd7057 changing exotics / changing any armour or weapon shouldn't impact your super bar. I assume you're loadout swapping not manually changing piece to have this issue meaning the problem is you have different aspects or fragments somewhere. changing any aspect or fragment resets all your cooldowns to uncharged (melee, grenade, class ability, super). at least thats how im aware it works unless its changed.
@@CatWithThumb load out swapping Yh, using exactly what’s in the vid above
@@scarfacerd7057 check if your aspects are the same order on both setups, maybe do the same for fragments. i know different ordered aspects are considered a change, not sure about fragments
I’m so glad titans are getting nerfed for this
are dungeon surges going away too?
Yes
well goodbye wendigo it was while it lasted
Wait I’m confused wouldn’t swapping loadouts during dps get rid of super
Not if your dps loadout keeps the exact same subclass, super, aspects and fragments
@@ExoGNwait, so grenades, melee and class abilities can be changed? I had no idea 😮
They just go on cd when you change them for the most part
@@btr1011 I tried it out and when I switched it made my super disappear is that supposed to happen cause how are you supposed to get enough orbs to make your super come back right before
As long as your aspects, fragments and super are the same, it won't matter
Surges going
still hunt is diabolical
& soon to be nerfed
Nah its just doing exactly what it says. Golden gun lol.
it would be cool to have each class have a dps monster setup. Hunters being able to just 1shot anything that is in their way in GMs is a bit unfair, at least let the other classes have a equally busted "i win" button.
Yay to no more surges.
Now the full Vaults of people who want to be prepared for all situations are actually useless.
Not for every boss
what do you do if youre not on hunter D:
switch to hunter
Euphany if your a warlock if no have pick your flavor of liniar for the witnesses right now or the heavy trace rifle
Titans just make sad noises really
Good thing bungie disabled Lucky Pants, hunters would've been out of hand...
That was only for the raid race, right?
@@ryork12correct
pls drop a warlock build my llama
Tomorrow!
@@LlamaD2 THANK YOUY
All bungie has to do is put Nighthawk on the class items
I really want a nighthawk plus liars cloak
If still hunt gets nerfed it will be on hunter only. Do the titan and lock will be safe.