I think Khvostov is noticeably better than everything else in the game and I have a feeling thats gonna become really apparent this weekend now that more people have it
@MegaGaige it's definitely the stupid high AA that helps it. But also, the exotic perk does help it with its ttk pretty much give it target lock. Those are the two main reasons it is so strong.
I was using it yesterday, it does feel better but 37 range js not great and it’s only better if you have the Catalyst. Travelers Chosen is still the GOAT and also feels better
@@itshadouken i havent used rat king, but i can confirm that travelers chosen is one of the greats and is honestly one of if not my favorite weapon in the game.
If you use an arc subclass or arc super on prismatic , you can run elemental capacitor on the someday instead of threat detector and always have 100 handling with 90+ range
Personally I think TD is better because almost the only time when your handling matters on a shotgun is when an enemy is within 15 meters. Also, the animation scalar is more powerful than raw handling stat. With TDx1 you have effectively the same draw / ADS time as 100 handling. 55 handling + TDx1 gives 25 handling and 0.9 animation scalar equals within .02s of each other. Not to mention the insanity that is TDx2
@@josephuva i get your point, but i prefer my someday over my matador almost always, it just feels better to me. Ive seen a lot of people prefer TD tho, to each their own ig
Def better if your running arc but arc is so bad these days at least on prismatic it’s usable I suppose but I feel like your def throwing if your using arc in crucible right now
@@benyoung1224 prismatic hunter with storms edge is what i use, as for my exotic i use a class item with ophidian+coyote, which makes every gun much better anyway, and lets me dodge more and make more clones 🫡
As someone who basically mains Dead Man's Tale in PvP with a controller it is great, it did take me a bit of practice to get a grip on the hipfire. Also I believe they adjusted Rat King's recoil type to make it more like Rapid Frame Sidearms 🤔 I could be wrong
Been looking for a video that is in depth yet still straight to the point and you nailed it dude, thank you. I had 1200 hours in D1 but I’m just now getting into Destiny 2. Could you do one for PvE please?
@@DaltnixI’m actually in the same boat as the gentleman you responded to. Was a hardcore trials player in D1 finally coming back to D2. Would love any advice on pve setups, weapons armor etc
That healing turret is OP af, your ace of spades clip you got bodied a few times and could keep getting restoration x2. That is wild lol. Good video my dude.
This list is great for newer players, but I’d like to add a couple of weapons: - Luna’s Howl from either onslaught or the keyosk slaps hard, maghowl absolutely chunks and there is zero recoil - Abyss Defiant has been a great weapon, it maps people and zen gives it no recoil, swashbuckler is a great perk on stasis warlock or knockout titan - Revision Zero (hear me out) is a stat monster, the two burst goes crazy, and the sniper win condition has crazy aim assist. It’s been my sleeper pick recently.
Hey Daltnix, great video! As someone who's pretty new to PVP I'd love a video from someone with your experience about the "beginners guide to PVP" Basically, what heuristics in buildcrafting should I be hitting? Do I need 100 resilience? How do I develop game sense? What modes should I be playing for the best XP, etc
Biggest thing about pvp is that it is toxic as hell, so learning to laugh at it is big, keeps you in a better mental state to play better. Practice is huge and playing with a friend who knows the game is also super helpful. As your playing you can ask your homie what guns people are using and get a wealth of info like perks, how to get said gun etc.
Really good takes on all of these, just missing a few weapons imo: Thorn, Mercurial overreach and defiance of yasmin (though I see why you wouldnt include snipers given the current meta), Forerunner (it now 3taps any resil again), Midhas reckoning with backup plan (i think the stasis high impact from trials is just as good), BXR with snapshot+BER, kept confidence and nation of beasts (best energy 140 as far as I know) Edit: And the crota autorifle was really good last time i checked
I’m in love with the crimson hand cannon rn it’s just so good and the fact that precision kills reload magazine and kills heal you makes it possible to get some really nice multi kills. I pair it with my crafted disruption break lethophobia bow for quick swaps. Usually takes one burst to the head to kill.
Not mentioning blast furnace is wild. I have the god roll (headseeker, rapid hit) And it just feels so so good. There's no recoil it has like 90 range so it's really good at long ranges. You can two tap with enough stacks of rapid hit and it's very easy to get high stacks because each bullet counts so one burst to someone's head and you instantly have times four stacks. It's very very slept on it just feels incredible in PvP. Obviously depends on the maps but I would say on more open maps it's one of the best in the game right now I would seriously recommend trying it.
Maybe I'm weird, but I love a bit of graviton lance in pvp. I mean, i love it in pve too, but it just seems so good in pvp. Plus those bonus void seekers on a kill *chefs kiss*
You should try Trespasser. I used it because I needed sidearm kills for the Pathfinder and it was the first one I saw in my vault. It was actually surprising how good it felt in pvp. Most sidearms on mouse and keyboard are just terrible but the recoil animation on Trespasser lets you actually see your target for the burst and the aim assist works properly. And getting a kill and reloading grants a super burst for nine seconds. The super burst can one burst to surprising ranges and getting a kill with it reloads the weapon and activates another super burst.
For me with Hawkmoon stands toward Better Devils, he has less stats than other HC but it feels incredible good almost as Hawkmoon, and if you get Better with Perpetual and Zen you will chain headshots easily.
I think malfeasance is one that you missed. Doesn't have the same impact as other hand cannons, but the RPM and magazine size are insane. I do really well with it in the crucible.
I was checking my vault the other day and found a shiny elsie’s rifle with hammer forged richochet keep away headseaker and stability master work and ever since then it was my secret card to get flawless in trials
@@emilebilodeau1954 it's really not in the meta and I actually have 0 clue why, it's very strong ATM, I guess people didn't realize it got a rpm buff to hip fire
@@hhaste I mean it's honestly barely a scout, for me personally I hipfire reliably up to 40m so it's like the best possible 140 hand canon to me with the option to be a pre nerf 120 when you need to ads
I think a weapon everyone is sleeping on are the new Heavy Burst Pulses which is the Aisha's Care and to a lesser the upcoming Corrasion. It's essentially a handcannon with pulse rifle range. It has a .87 ttk which is a three burst and one of those shots can be a body shot. The burst happens incredibly fast so you can treat it like a handcannon in terms of peek shooting unlike other pulse alternatives that make you commit too hard like rapid-fires and lightweights. Since it has a fast fire rate too, it's not as punished as a high-impact if you miss a burst. I know everyone loves high-impacts but it has a twilight zone between mid and close where you can't quite reach with a shotgun and have to use the rifle where missing a burst or not hitting the 2 burst will almost certainly lose you the fight. The only downsides is that its team shooting capabilities are bad compared to 120 HC's or High Impact pulses; but the ease of use on it is unmatched. My recommended rolls on Aisha's is either Keep Away/Zen Moment in Column 3 and then Moving Target/Headseeker in Column 4.
Rose i have surpringly dropped my rap/explosive rose and im using rap hit/eye of storm it just makes it easier to stay on target with my controller sticks losing their stiffness
Great tier list. Do you think we can get a video that shows the best special ammo / secondary weapons current? Obviously shotguns but I like seeing off meta things that are great alternatives to shotties. Thanks
According to chatgpt she doesn't actually cheat. She just flirted with the doctor a bit and texted him. But she never had a physical relationship with him.
been wanting to get into pvp more and as a pve player, and gun choices matter so much more i think in pvp so i appreciate how straight to the point this video was
The fact that you gassed up the Austringer sooo much and didn’t even put Not Forgotten on the list is crazy. Especially since everyone gets it with zen moment and magnificent howl.. just crazy
Love what they've done to Rat king ❤🔫, I run it with Elsie's GR shiny zen Frenzy KC headseeker fully enhanced for log ranges or my positive outlook, enhanced zen KC, oversoul edict . For my under average ass they do me good 👍🏻
Thanks for the inspiration im in my vault trying to decide what to pair with a filo i had in my vault for i have no idea how long with slideshot an opening with 85 handling i have to try this thing but i also crafted the snap an zen austringer roll an i also kinda forgot about it so thank you
Everytime I watch a meta video the gun kills people in like 2 shots when I use it I'm needing to hit people 4 times or more to kill them, what am I doing wrong?
Wormhusk and the aspect that gives you radiant on melee hits with the dodge that gives you melee back is the only build any hunter ever will need. Throw melee get radiant push if your somehow loosing dodge get health get clone probably slow them get melee back kill go invis rinse and repeat
on someday if you run prismatic run what you normally do but run ecap and an arc super and you can get almost 100 range and have 100 handling all the time! Good video though I enjoyed this🎉
Ngl the gravitational lance is still one of the craziest scout rifle or maybe it’s just me cuz not only you can 3 tap to easy you can causes other around your enemy to die to one kill off the void explosions
I have an old adept shayura's with kill clip + tunnel vision that just deletes people in 6s. Not as great in 3s but i normally dont run smgs there anyway.
I would add a couple of weapons to this list and those weapons would be pulse riffles. After they buffed them they feels to good to use. As a no brainier example I would give u Graviton Lance this thing slaps so hard, last weeks banner fall trials proved that. I went like 4 times flawless and am not full time player or streamer. 2 I would like to give shout out to rapid fire frame pulses. If u have crafted Different Times u are winner, I melted a lot of players whit it. Same goes for Autumn Wind but it’s weeker then Different Times but also good, depends on ur build. The one that’s on a look out would be Iron Banners void pulse
What weapon combos do you prefer? I'm fairly new to the game and cant quite find a balanced load out. Like auto rifle with a hand cannon? Pulse with HC?
i think missing mercurial/beloved or whatever you consider to be the best sniper along with heliocentric qsc is a problem but then again not everyone snipes and helio is hard to farm a good roll and hard to use without a sniper
I may just be a noob, but Austringer Aim assist in one of the lowest for 140s at 75. So I always lean towards Rose, Eyas, Fate, Rations, or Coup. VERY average gamer speaking here.
I hate that the term free to play player is used anytime someone doesn’t own the current content 🤦🏻♂️ own everything but final shape and now I’m a free to play 🤣
This might be a dumb question I have the pvp god roll of the messenger from my first ever trials run that I got when I went to the lighthouse. it has corkscrew rifling, high caliber rounds, rapid hit, and desperado. would you consider this a good weapon still? its a 340 with 40 in the mag and a stability masterwork.
why is the not forgotten getting slept on? Is it not a better ace of spades? And also its definitely better than the hawk moon like why aren't we talking about the NF?
Why isn’t rangefinder considered a godroll perk anymore? I have rose with slideshot and rangefinder and igneous hammer adept with quickdraw and rangefinder. Did rangefinder get a nerf sometime in the recent past? Because I just got back into destiny and the last time I played was for witch queen and I skipped playing lightfall, so it’s been well over a year since I played.
Yes it got indirectly nerfed when they changed how zoom works. It basically doesn't give you extra range anymore but increases aim assist fall-off distance instead which is nice to have but not that good compared to other perks
Def not a waste. it will lower the amount of headshots on higher resil's by one to help forgiveness and lower the ttk for anyone 4 resil or lower . Most people tend to run high these days, so you will be using it for that bit of forgiveness for the most part. Really depressed on what you want. I personally would go with dmg perks. But target lock is still pretty good.
I think Khvostov is noticeably better than everything else in the game and I have a feeling thats gonna become really apparent this weekend now that more people have it
Agreed
Maybe the aim assist being so high is why it's feeling so good? Idk cause isn't summoner technically better? Idk but khvostov shoots Beach balls
@MegaGaige it's definitely the stupid high AA that helps it. But also, the exotic perk does help it with its ttk pretty much give it target lock. Those are the two main reasons it is so strong.
@@Daltnix combined with speakers sight and radiant orbs its a complete abomination
I think red death is right there with it tbh
Rat king was changed to shoot like a rapid fire frame sidearm. It’s a lot easier to use now
I was using it yesterday, it does feel better but 37 range js not great and it’s only better if you have the Catalyst. Travelers Chosen is still the GOAT and also feels better
@@itshadouken i havent used rat king, but i can confirm that travelers chosen is one of the greats and is honestly one of if not my favorite weapon in the game.
Honestly I wish most sidearms had the rapid-fire style of recoil, it’s so much better being able to actually see your reticle
I wondered if I was tripping. It's actually possible to hit head shots with it now.
@@jeremyjohnson9585 yeah it’s really good now. Especially with the catalyst
If you use an arc subclass or arc super on prismatic , you can run elemental capacitor on the someday instead of threat detector and always have 100 handling with 90+ range
Personally I think TD is better because almost the only time when your handling matters on a shotgun is when an enemy is within 15 meters. Also, the animation scalar is more powerful than raw handling stat. With TDx1 you have effectively the same draw / ADS time as 100 handling. 55 handling + TDx1 gives 25 handling and 0.9 animation scalar equals within .02s of each other.
Not to mention the insanity that is TDx2
@@josephuva i get your point, but i prefer my someday over my matador almost always, it just feels better to me. Ive seen a lot of people prefer TD tho, to each their own ig
@@fatboyjrn1810It is better than matador 64 because of the enhanced perks.
Def better if your running arc but arc is so bad these days at least on prismatic it’s usable I suppose but I feel like your def throwing if your using arc in crucible right now
@@benyoung1224 prismatic hunter with storms edge is what i use, as for my exotic i use a class item with ophidian+coyote, which makes every gun much better anyway, and lets me dodge more and make more clones 🫡
As someone who basically mains Dead Man's Tale in PvP with a controller it is great, it did take me a bit of practice to get a grip on the hipfire.
Also I believe they adjusted Rat King's recoil type to make it more like Rapid Frame Sidearms 🤔 I could be wrong
Been looking for a video that is in depth yet still straight to the point and you nailed it dude, thank you. I had 1200 hours in D1 but I’m just now getting into Destiny 2. Could you do one for PvE please?
Thank you! I normally focus more on pvp. But I will see what I can do.
May try zen on austringer ive always used opening
@@DaltnixI’m actually in the same boat as the gentleman you responded to. Was a hardcore trials player in D1 finally coming back to D2. Would love any advice on pve setups, weapons armor etc
That healing turret is OP af, your ace of spades clip you got bodied a few times and could keep getting restoration x2. That is wild lol. Good video my dude.
This list is great for newer players, but I’d like to add a couple of weapons:
- Luna’s Howl from either onslaught or the keyosk slaps hard, maghowl absolutely chunks and there is zero recoil
- Abyss Defiant has been a great weapon, it maps people and zen gives it no recoil, swashbuckler is a great perk on stasis warlock or knockout titan
- Revision Zero (hear me out) is a stat monster, the two burst goes crazy, and the sniper win condition has crazy aim assist. It’s been my sleeper pick recently.
Hey Daltnix, great video! As someone who's pretty new to PVP I'd love a video from someone with your experience about the "beginners guide to PVP" Basically, what heuristics in buildcrafting should I be hitting? Do I need 100 resilience? How do I develop game sense? What modes should I be playing for the best XP, etc
Biggest thing about pvp is that it is toxic as hell, so learning to laugh at it is big, keeps you in a better mental state to play better. Practice is huge and playing with a friend who knows the game is also super helpful. As your playing you can ask your homie what guns people are using and get a wealth of info like perks, how to get said gun etc.
Excellent video! Concise and filled with juicy clips alongside damage/scenario information!
Really good takes on all of these, just missing a few weapons imo:
Thorn, Mercurial overreach and defiance of yasmin (though I see why you wouldnt include snipers given the current meta), Forerunner (it now 3taps any resil again), Midhas reckoning with backup plan (i think the stasis high impact from trials is just as good), BXR with snapshot+BER, kept confidence and nation of beasts (best energy 140 as far as I know)
Edit: And the crota autorifle was really good last time i checked
I’m in love with the crimson hand cannon rn it’s just so good and the fact that precision kills reload magazine and kills heal you makes it possible to get some really nice multi kills.
I pair it with my crafted disruption break lethophobia bow for quick swaps. Usually takes one burst to the head to kill.
Not mentioning blast furnace is wild. I have the god roll (headseeker, rapid hit) And it just feels so so good. There's no recoil it has like 90 range so it's really good at long ranges. You can two tap with enough stacks of rapid hit and it's very easy to get high stacks because each bullet counts so one burst to someone's head and you instantly have times four stacks. It's very very slept on it just feels incredible in PvP. Obviously depends on the maps but I would say on more open maps it's one of the best in the game right now I would seriously recommend trying it.
Maybe I'm weird, but I love a bit of graviton lance in pvp. I mean, i love it in pve too, but it just seems so good in pvp. Plus those bonus void seekers on a kill *chefs kiss*
I really like the new comp auto rifle Riposte.
Me too! I got a dynamic sway and tap the trigger roll and it's an absolute laser
Sucks that it can't be focused yet
@@nightking2112same
You should try Trespasser. I used it because I needed sidearm kills for the Pathfinder and it was the first one I saw in my vault. It was actually surprising how good it felt in pvp. Most sidearms on mouse and keyboard are just terrible but the recoil animation on Trespasser lets you actually see your target for the burst and the aim assist works properly. And getting a kill and reloading grants a super burst for nine seconds. The super burst can one burst to surprising ranges and getting a kill with it reloads the weapon and activates another super burst.
Trespasser is def one of the best sidearm for mnk. It's one of the few really good sidearm for it
Round robin with elem cap and keepaway is a good contender with almost max range, 80+ handling on arc
Keep away is a good 1 if you don't want to use arc
120s suck without PI after the changes.
For me with Hawkmoon stands toward Better Devils, he has less stats than other HC but it feels incredible good almost as Hawkmoon, and if you get Better with Perpetual and Zen you will chain headshots easily.
I like how you commented on both MnK and controller!
I think malfeasance is one that you missed. Doesn't have the same impact as other hand cannons, but the RPM and magazine size are insane. I do really well with it in the crucible.
I was checking my vault the other day and found a shiny elsie’s rifle with hammer forged richochet keep away headseaker and stability master work and ever since then it was my secret card to get flawless in trials
DMT has been glued to my hand, i think bungie finally found the perfect spot for it
Been glued to my hand since season 13 and im happy its finally somewhat meta
@@emilebilodeau1954 it's really not in the meta and I actually have 0 clue why, it's very strong ATM, I guess people didn't realize it got a rpm buff to hip fire
@@majora919 People don't use scouts, for whatever reason.. even though they're really good.
@@hhaste I mean it's honestly barely a scout, for me personally I hipfire reliably up to 40m so it's like the best possible 140 hand canon to me with the option to be a pre nerf 120 when you need to ads
Another one that I recommend is the pulse rifle Relentless from the prophecy dungeon, that thing destroys with any rolls and it's not hard to get
Rat King been a laser for a while. Its not a bug. Its just good. Glad to see it finally get some love on someones list.
Cant wait till xur sells the catalyst cos that shit is deffo not ever going to drop for me in strikes.
no outbreak perfected is criminal. that thing is just so juicy
Nah
No skill to use gun 😂
Because it's actually not that juicy at all when compared to all of these in the current meta.
Once you reshape it and use head seeker… it’s killer
standard version loses gun battle to most other guns. I like it for 6v6 but it doesn't hold up in trials
I think a weapon everyone is sleeping on are the new Heavy Burst Pulses which is the Aisha's Care and to a lesser the upcoming Corrasion. It's essentially a handcannon with pulse rifle range. It has a .87 ttk which is a three burst and one of those shots can be a body shot. The burst happens incredibly fast so you can treat it like a handcannon in terms of peek shooting unlike other pulse alternatives that make you commit too hard like rapid-fires and lightweights. Since it has a fast fire rate too, it's not as punished as a high-impact if you miss a burst. I know everyone loves high-impacts but it has a twilight zone between mid and close where you can't quite reach with a shotgun and have to use the rifle where missing a burst or not hitting the 2 burst will almost certainly lose you the fight. The only downsides is that its team shooting capabilities are bad compared to 120 HC's or High Impact pulses; but the ease of use on it is unmatched.
My recommended rolls on Aisha's is either Keep Away/Zen Moment in Column 3 and then Moving Target/Headseeker in Column 4.
Rose i have surpringly dropped my rap/explosive rose and im using rap hit/eye of storm it just makes it easier to stay on target with my controller sticks losing their stiffness
Great tier list. Do you think we can get a video that shows the best special ammo / secondary weapons current? Obviously shotguns but I like seeing off meta things that are great alternatives to shotties. Thanks
All you need is conditional finality. That’s it, no list or video needed.
All you need is conditional finality. That’s it, no list or video needed.
@223ndog yeah and you need to clean your phone out 😂
Bungie made the recoil pattern more up and down for rat king
for igneous i have a 97 range adept one i use with Precision instrument and rapid hit, it is without a doubt one of my favorite handcannons
Kvostov doesnt even have 'pvp perks' but damn that thing just magnets shots to the head.
I love how he called Dead Man's Tale a weapon that is much bigger than a hand cannon a "Mini Hand cannon" 😂
I run prismatic and mask of bakris with conditional finality and sightline survey. It does insanely well imo
I believe they changed the recoil animation for Rat King, so it looks and feels a lot smoother
Great list overall, but I think the Messenger outguns all high impact pulses on this list, including the exotics
Imo Elsie's > Messenger
According to chatgpt she doesn't actually cheat. She just flirted with the doctor a bit and texted him. But she never had a physical relationship with him.
been wanting to get into pvp more and as a pve player, and gun choices matter so much more i think in pvp so i appreciate how straight to the point this video was
The fact that you gassed up the Austringer sooo much and didn’t even put Not Forgotten on the list is crazy. Especially since everyone gets it with zen moment and magnificent howl.. just crazy
Love what they've done to Rat king ❤🔫, I run it with Elsie's GR shiny zen Frenzy KC headseeker fully enhanced for log ranges or my positive outlook, enhanced zen KC, oversoul edict .
For my under average ass they do me good 👍🏻
❤Love❤your videos please keep them coming especially the trials info helps a ton I'm a new player 🎉
Thanks for the inspiration im in my vault trying to decide what to pair with a filo i had in my vault for i have no idea how long with slideshot an opening with 85 handling i have to try this thing but i also crafted the snap an zen austringer roll an i also kinda forgot about it so thank you
Everytime I watch a meta video the gun kills people in like 2 shots when I use it I'm needing to hit people 4 times or more to kill them, what am I doing wrong?
BXR still slaps ngl. Also been using a ton if Rufus's Fury and that thing is a laser.
Ever since I got khvostov it hasn’t left my hands in PvP and pve
If you have one, Kindled Orchid feels amazing
The Riposte is a good AR too!
Khvostov is ridiculously strong right now. I’m getting beaten in outright gunfights using shayuras even at the perfect shayuras range
That AR is absolutely busted. I hope they drop the nerf hammer on it soon. Swear it's the only gun I see in pvp nowadays.
Great video, especially for players that are new to the game.
Can you come up with a good prismatic build to use with rat king? I've never used it before but saw it was on your list
Wormhusk and the aspect that gives you radiant on melee hits with the dodge that gives you melee back is the only build any hunter ever will need. Throw melee get radiant push if your somehow loosing dodge get health get clone probably slow them get melee back kill go invis rinse and repeat
on someday if you run prismatic run what you normally do but run ecap and an arc super and you can get almost 100 range and have 100 handling all the time! Good video though I enjoyed this🎉
Red death is nuts.
Khvostoc is good and so much fun but can’t match Red death 1v1.
Honourable mention to my headseeker rampage Blast Furnace
Ngl the gravitational lance is still one of the craziest scout rifle or maybe it’s just me cuz not only you can 3 tap to easy you can causes other around your enemy to die to one kill off the void explosions
I have an old adept shayura's with kill clip + tunnel vision that just deletes people in 6s. Not as great in 3s but i normally dont run smgs there anyway.
Tbh any roll will do fine as long as it has high range
@@juhaojanpaa key word: range. I notice that a lot of people who don't do good with sub machines just have terrible range which is their downfall
Elemental capacitor is a good pick also for the someday If you run arc sub class
Didn't you did TH-cam man. Good job on this video! Keep doing good work
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I would add a couple of weapons to this list and those weapons would be pulse riffles. After they buffed them they feels to good to use. As a no brainier example I would give u Graviton Lance this thing slaps so hard, last weeks banner fall trials proved that. I went like 4 times flawless and am not full time player or streamer. 2 I would like to give shout out to rapid fire frame pulses. If u have crafted Different Times u are winner, I melted a lot of players whit it. Same goes for Autumn Wind but it’s weeker then Different Times but also good, depends on ur build. The one that’s on a look out would be Iron Banners void pulse
Didnt they nerf graviton lance last season? It was epic the season before though.
8:02 my guy is shooting through walls.
What weapon combos do you prefer? I'm fairly new to the game and cant quite find a balanced load out. Like auto rifle with a hand cannon? Pulse with HC?
Pretty much always use a primary + special weapon, e.g. HC/pulse/auto + shotgun/sniper/fusion
@@juhaojanpaa Hmm, thanks. So many weapons to choose from, it's overwhelming.
Igneous Hammer (Adept) running rampant in all of my crucible games.
i think missing mercurial/beloved or whatever you consider to be the best sniper along with heliocentric qsc is a problem but then again not everyone snipes and helio is hard to farm a good roll and hard to use without a sniper
great video, i subscribed. i rarely deviate from Mida so i will experiment with some of these
Not even mentioning opening shot on igneous is crazy.
What happened to Not Forgotten? One of the strongest hand cannons in the game.
So good man
Hey man, good video! But if you're going to talk that fast, you need a better mic lol sound quality is not the best. JS :)
I may just be a noob, but Austringer Aim assist in one of the lowest for 140s at 75. So I always lean towards Rose, Eyas, Fate, Rations, or Coup. VERY average gamer speaking here.
I hate that the term free to play player is used anytime someone doesn’t own the current content 🤦🏻♂️ own everything but final shape and now I’m a free to play 🤣
I mean not owning the final shape means all the relevant content can’t be done so it kinda does mean free to play
@@captainmadoli4498 far from free to play 🤣🤣
What warlock chest piece you using?
Honestly loving the riposte rn from comp.
I love shoot and loot never thought I will love it
I think Luna and Not Forgotten go hard
Jade Rabbit, always been rhe corridor goat.
This might be a dumb question I have the pvp god roll of the messenger from my first ever trials run that I got when I went to the lighthouse. it has corkscrew rifling, high caliber rounds, rapid hit, and desperado. would you consider this a good weapon still? its a 340 with 40 in the mag and a stability masterwork.
it is still a very good weapon. one of the best high impact pulse rifles. if this was a top 20 list, it probably would have been on it.
I perform better with Messenger than even exotic high impacts
I’m surprised blast furnace isn’t on here. That gun feels great in PvP
Thr trials smg what would you recomend for controler users? I have a few old ones but dont know wich one would be better🤣
I'm using dynamic sway with kill clip on xbox. For shayuras.
No love for nechrocasm is crazy it's so good !!!!
Isn't Rangefinder better on revolvers? Because you didn't quote it
Thorn and Ace are my favorite HC super good in pvp
Quicksilver storm is pretty decent imo
I think the new trials pulse is slept on
The riposte feels really good as well.
I just can't get used to ace .I know it's good but the sights fuck with me it feels like a 120 to me
Awesome video I totally agree!
Traveler's Chosen gives people fits when I use it.
I LOVE ACE OF SPADES 😎
What about Breakneck with enhanced keep away/onslaught?
why is the not forgotten getting slept on? Is it not a better ace of spades? And also its definitely better than the hawk moon like why aren't we talking about the NF?
This is the video returning crucible players needed
what did you mean by sad face about hunters and resilience?
Have they fix the deadman hip fire aim? It use to shoot low when it first came out
I rock rangefinder on my austringer its disgusting . I play on xbox with controller though.
What is the Chest and Leg piece at 5:03??
i think the chest is shadow broker (mass effect set), the legs are from the vampire set during festival of the lost
@@afri2n Thanks!
Daltnix sure loves austringer
What’s better than risk runner or crimson
Crimson is absolutely epic!!!
Honorable mentions: Last word, Mida, Thorn, Crimson, Ammit, Thunderlord and Monte Carlo!!!!
should i swap rangefinder for zen moment on my austringer?
Why isn’t rangefinder considered a godroll perk anymore? I have rose with slideshot and rangefinder and igneous hammer adept with quickdraw and rangefinder. Did rangefinder get a nerf sometime in the recent past? Because I just got back into destiny and the last time I played was for witch queen and I skipped playing lightfall, so it’s been well over a year since I played.
Yes it got indirectly nerfed when they changed how zoom works. It basically doesn't give you extra range anymore but increases aim assist fall-off distance instead which is nice to have but not that good compared to other perks
I thought, and other youtubers kinda underline that, that target lock on Summoner is basically a waste, as it rarely triggers?😮
Def not a waste. it will lower the amount of headshots on higher resil's by one to help forgiveness and lower the ttk for anyone 4 resil or lower . Most people tend to run high these days, so you will be using it for that bit of forgiveness for the most part. Really depressed on what you want. I personally would go with dmg perks. But target lock is still pretty good.
@Daltnix cheers mate, thx for a reply. I actually got a summo with smallbore, ricco, zen and TL and other YTs made me believe its a waste ;)
No matter what, I see Conditional every game
damn that's alot of comp and trials i have to play to get a number of these; that sucks. I like pvp but i just dont like 3v3
Prosecutor is very good as well
Noob question, how do you pick weapon perks? I thought they were random
They are unless that weapon is craftable