A NOTE FROM THE AUTHOR: So... I am getting a little bit of "pushback" on my "ditch the cover" hot take. That is really my personal preference. I probably should have included in the video that I cover all my turntables, when not in use, with a very lightweight cloth. I hit my records with a brushing before and after playing each side. I NEVER leave a record on my table longer than it takes to play it. My records go straight back in the anti-static sleeve (that I buy for every record) and then the record and cover go into a clear poly sleeve. I'm NOT a dirty audiophile. I have a SpinClean and a Record Doctor VI. I don't know.. on a day when our leaders are claiming the government has "weather machines," how is this the worst thing someone can say! PS I'm not "stupid." But please continue to comment if you believe I misspoke... maybe you can change my mind. But, I don't think my house has that much dust... and besides, most people don't even clean their records after they buy them! I do. How dirty are they coming out of the factory. Thanks! - the Author
I only take the dustcover completely off when listening, though even that can be contentious as Roy Gandy (Mr Rega) recommends leaving the cover on in the down position when in use! Happy listening from Scotland to all. Jim🏴🙂
I too cover the platter(s) with a thick cloth and blow it off with a rubber rocket blaster. One cover is in the box and the other turntable didn't come with one - it is so tall an aquarium size cover would be needed. Kuzma has a slick cover that is like plexiglass bent to shape with no sides. Don't know if it can be used on other turntables.
VWestlife did a great video about the dust cover. He did all sorts of measurements. Either off or down was the final result. I definitely use mine. It provides some physical protection from anything stupid and general house dust does accumulate over time. I just put mine down when playing. Put a couple of those tiny felt pads on your turn table where it contacts the cover if you want more isolation than the little rubber bumper on the lid.
Thanks for the info! I do protect my turntable and records in other ways. I'm already thinking about doing another video about the "cover controversy!"
Good recommendations. I have one to add. Make sure your table is on a stable base. A heavy table or cabinet. On that heavy base, get yourself a heavy concrete patio stone. They are cheap, and can actually be quite aesthetic. We're talking $10. Put the stone on the cabinet, and then put your turntable (with it's new upgraded feet) on that stone. Dampling is critical, imo, and this is a great way to protect the stylus from vibrations. You also want to make sure that your turntable is behind your speakers. You do not want a speaker playing at your stylus. Likewise, speakers should not be on the same surface as the turntable. I know people have desktop rigs, and this sometimes cant be avoided - all the more reason to use that patio stone. Your speakers are otherwise loading bass into the surface that will then transfer to your stylus. So use as much mass as possible. You don't need to pay money for a branded "isolation platform" or whatever. Concrete is arguably the best substance for this purpose. Otherwise, keep tweaking and upgrading. Its a journey, not a destination!
Hey I totally get why you would remove the dust cover when playing a record, I'm sure there are some Sonic vibrations that could vibrate that cover and possibly get to the stylus. I personally don't want to remove my dust cover so what I do when I close the top is put my extra record weight on top of my dust cover pretty much nulls any vibrations. It's not trash advice to remove your dust cover it's just personal preference.
The one upgrade I did to my 42 year old Dual CS-506 that you did not mention is #7 get better interconnects. This mod took the sound to the next level. My other mods for this turntable included a better sounding cartridge and Vibrapod isolators.
You should get a half inch adapter and change that Ortofon DN-155E ! I did that with my 506 and what a difference,! Only thing you have to be aware of is the VTA That will most likely be off but because of the additional space at the headshell end it's usually just a tiny bit low and trust me it won't make any difference. The one cartridge I put on my table was the Stanton ,681EEE Mk3 that suited the sound of it best.
@@dark-eternalknight3379 I did get that adapter back in 1989 with the counterweight. I've had a Shure Me97he cartridge attached to it ever since and to me it sounds perfect on my 506.
All excellent recommendations. My Music Hall turntable came with most of them. Built-in level,record clamp,Ortofon Bronze cartridge. My McIntosh MX130 preamp has a great photo stage.
The 2M Bronze was my starter cartridge...on a Fluance RT85 w/ a Pro-Ject Tube Box S2 phono pre. The 2M Bronze is a great little piece of kit...and I honestly only moved on from this setup because the turntable stuck out like a sore thumb in my system. It sounded/performed great. I'm currently running the Concorde Music Black LVB 250 on a Music Hall Stealth w/ a Black Ice Audio Fusion9 MkIII phono pre. Real solid stuff imho...and this is my endgame. EDIT: I initially asked if you're using the 2M Bronze or the concorde music bronze...but then realized you said your 'table came w/ the Bronze & that it's a Music Hall. That's a 2M Bronze all day, every day.
@dizzle1119 Unless there's a failure, this is the turntable I will stick with till the end. I'm 72, and it should outlast me with proper care. FYI, associated equipment is Parasound A23 powering Sonus Faber Sonetto IIIs and Miller & Kreisel V-2B subwoofer. I'm very satisfied.
Glad you mention a clamp, however its main advantage is to damp record vibration or echo. Its a fine tune to use a good mat in conjunction, but the clamp helps any mat. If anyone wants to use a test to know the difference a clamp makes, I can tell.
All good tips. I ditched the cover on my Rega RP8. It affected the mid vocal region blurring the sound stage some. But, if you like the cover, remove it when playing. The level can be affected if playing with the cover up. Was the level checked with the cover on and down? My RP8 has a frame that the turntable sat in and the lid's mounting slid into the base or frame. Even though the feet touched the table through the base, the base affected the sound, with the lid removed. Fortunately, the RP8 is a skeletal design which minimizes surface area that can pickup vibration and allowed the base and cover to be removed. A STURDY table to place the turntable on could be No. 7. Some people mount a shelf to a wall but I have a concrete floor which vibrates less than the walls. If possible, avoid passageways to minimize footsteps.
I have a Thorens TD-160 with a hinged dust cover. I've never taken it off (I have a cat) and don't want to leave it off plus my house can get a bit dusty. The TD-160 has really good acoustic isolation and wondering if removing the dust cover would make a difference? By the way, I really enjoy your channel. I'm an audiophile but enjoy your sense of humor about this hobby. Some people take is far too seriously.
To make my turntable sound truly amazing, I've created a setup where I stream my FLAC files in parallel with the spinning record. Here’s how it works: my amplifier is connected to a DAC that plays the music from my streamer, while the turntable is simply spinning the record for that authentic vinyl experience. I've organized my FLAC collection into A and B sides, mirroring the record's format, so I still get to enjoy the tactile ritual of flipping the record over. To make it seamless, I've placed a Bluetooth button next to the turntable, allowing me to "flip" sides with a single press. The streamer runs a plugin that handles the side-switching for me. This setup means I can enjoy the full, beautiful routine of using my turntable while always hearing the music with pristine quality, as if it’s the very first play of the record. I’m currently working on phase two of my setup, which involves using RFID technology to automatically identify each record. This way, I won’t even need to connect to the streamer manually; the system will recognize the record as soon as I place it on the turntable. I’m very close to getting this to work, and once it's set up, it will truly complete the authentic vinyl experience. I should also mention that I have a filter running on my streamer, which I can activate to simulate the sound of a worn-out, dusty record. It’s perfect for when I want to embrace the nostalgia of a vintage vinyl sound while keeping the convenience and quality of my modern setup. The USB button I have is also a rotatable dial! If I manage to get the intensity of the filter working with the dial I'm set!
@zizendorf Indeed, all sound is ultimately analog; a DAC's primary role is to convert digital data back into analog waves that reach our ears. While my approach might not conform to traditional vinyl purism, it's designed to enhance the experience-which is, after all, a deeply personal and relative concept. The tactile ritual, the act of flipping sides, and even the simulated imperfections serve to create an immersive environment that resonates with my interpretation of the 'vinyl experience.' The notion that one can judge the authenticity of another’s experience is, perhaps, missing the point. In the end, isn't it the joy of the ritual that matters most?
Excellent information, Sir ! Thanks for sharing. Been an audio enthusiast since 1969, and feel that I am probably somewhere in the middle of the learning curve. Totally agree with you about the dust cover issue. IMHO, leaving the dust cover on while playing is similar to the sail on a sailboat, the cover serves to catch any and all vibrations and transmit them directly to your stylus....BAD JUJU ! Started using protective PVC outer sleeves for LPs in the mid-`70s, and also have upgraded inner sleeves to archival-quality ones from MoFi, TT Lab, etc. Albums have become expensive, sleeves are cheap protection. Currently spinning on the TT: King Crimson "Live in Frejus, France 1982"
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Though I'm not a vinyl devotee, your informative vids are always appreciated. No stylus shaming here, just don't have enough time left to start collecting albums, even if you gave me RCA, Capitol and Columbia House Record Club memberships. (Remember those?)
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Bought a new turntable and speakers a month ago. I'm 70 and wanted a good turntable and I found one! The U-Turn theroy is a beautiful thing 😍. The sound is out of this world and is the best $999.00 I've ever spent. It has all the bells and whistle s you suggested. If anyone needs a new turntable I highly recommend the Theroy.
So many Vinyl people recommend removing the dust cover -- even the manual on my turntable says to do that. Problem: I get a LOT of dust buildup on the record in a matter of seconds. Just the atmosphere of my apartment, I guess. I keep the dust cover on, except if I'm doing a digital recording of a record I have that was never reissued digitally (and I have a LOT) -- I have to flip the internal preamp to the on position to do that, and the internal preamp is VERY sensitive. Lots of rumbling comes over on the recordings if I keep the dust cover on. No rumbling picked up at all though when I turn off the preamp and listen via my Sony receiver.
After my Technics SL-5 finally died, i went to a dealer (after doing research) and, with the budget I had to work with at the time, bought a Rega P2 and had the original (carbon) upgraded to an AT-VM540ML before I picked it up. Then after finding that I had to crank up the volume on my AVR to get any decent sound using the phono input, I bought a Rega Fono MM Mk5, changed the input to CD and Presto!. I found out that the S/N on the AVR was about 20 dB less than on a stand-alone phono preamp. I then bought a pair of cutting boards from Walmart and a couple sets of rubber bumpers from Home Depot and made myself an isolation table (leveled with a handful of scratch pads). I DO use my dust cover, but I don't use a record weight because it was recommended not to, either by Rega or the dealer I used. Overall I'm very happy with my modest setup, although now I wonder what a premium preamp would do (i.e. one that costs as much as the table and stylus), but that's the least of my concerns at the moment!
Some sound advice in this video. Everyone has different ears and preferences that may require different “tweaks”. If you can adjust the height of your tonearm then try using more than one mat, maybe even experiment with mixing different materials, the more isolated from the motor the better. Also clean your mat regularly, I use felt, so a quick vacuum (off the turntable) does the trick and helps prevent dust from making my records sound old.
MEXICAUDIO recommended SOUNDECK MATT which is the most efficient at stopping vibrations. Why? He took the plate of a high end turntable and with a little hammer made it sound like a bell. Then put different types of Matts to see if they can stop vibrations. Only SOUNDECK MATT could
You can't have just any cartridge as long as you can raise the position of the tonearm. or otherwise do so that there is the right number of degrees on the carriage/Needle. and the phono preamp built into the record player or other phono preamp. may not have support for an MM cartridge but perhaps only an MC cartridge
To start, research on #1. An open dust cover is certainly bad, but a closed probably has way more pros than cons. More than a slight resonance which only the best system will pick up, dust will be heard by even the most basic turntables. Keep your dust cover, down except when changing the record or flipping it over. Two, clean your records. Use an antistatic brush and a stylus cleaner. Static doesn't sound great and your records don't have to crackle and pop. Get a cleaner like the Spin Clean Record Washer and you'll be amazed! You don't need to spend 1000's on an ultrasonic cleaner.
I have a SpinClean and a Record Doctor 6. Thanks for the notes! I get your point. But I'm up in the air about it. I don't like dust... but I don't like over handling the cover. Thanks
Please explain how a weight in the center of a record can affect the vast warpage when it is an issue primarily on the outer tracks of the record. I don't see it. Been in the game nearly 50 years and own 2 weights. That being said, I can not hear any discernable difference in the sound.
You need a periphery weight to address warps. Not all tables can accommodate them. Center weights can help with some warps, but are mostly good for damping/stability.
Keep the cover on. Do you have a cat? Also my place gets dusty. Also put the cover down when you spin the record. It can add to the mass and reduce vibrations slightly.
newbie here - i was skeptical that taking off the dust cover would make ANY difference. Well color me corrected. There was this hard-to-describe flatness or foggyness to the record compared with the digital version. Took the dust cover off and boom. It sounded just as good. I kinda wish it hadn't been so evident, cuz now I'm in the rabbit hole.
Record clamp vs weight -- In Los Angeles at a high end audio shop, I asked about this. The owner said, "I'll show you". First, Count Basie and the Kansas City 7 was put on. I think it was Count's Place that has a piano passage - overall, a great sound stage. Listened to a weight, clamp and no weight. Clamping excessively greatly reduced the sound stage. The mat should have a reduced label area so the record isn't bent by a clamp or weight. The clamp demonstrated was made for the turntable and he could really fit some force on it. Perhaps the one suggested won't apply such force (?).
1) my turntable has 4 half in springs suspending it in the air. 2) the platter is entirely plastic. 3) I have tried different platter mats and the only one that will operate on the platter is a foam mat, the cork gets hung up on the lift. 4) they only make replacement cartridges of the same caliber for the turntable. 5) I cannot put a record weight onto the platter due to the pole is about 5 in tall and is used as a record changer. 6) the record will not play with a cover on it due to the back of the tonearm will hit the back of the cover.
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog i use puck on beltdrive. Maybe because the wight make the record make better contact with the platter? There's a lot of interference in record playing. Do not let it be your attention.
To add to the dustcover debate there's a school of thought that a cover helps protect the stylus from airborne vibrations (from the speakers and cat etc), which seems obvious. Counter-argument is it creates a trapped volume of air which could, theoretically, resonate, but this is almost hypothetical. A dustcover is also subject to airbourne vibration but in a competent design these should be grounded by / drained to the plinth and isolated via the suspension. Free experiment; try it on, then off and see if you have a preference (or can even tell the difference at all!) Incidentally, if you're looking at replacing feet, three will always be inherently more stable than four; as any engineer will tell you, a tripod can't be rocked. As any Australian schoolboy guitarist will tell you; "'for those about to not rock, we salute you........" ;0)
Why would I upgrade a Koetsu Gold Blackline that is actually brand new… don’t ask me how I was able to buy it. Sounds magical. I also have a Goldman methacrylate platter cover with it’s matching record weight. I guess I am a little bit advance for this particular video. Sorry about that.
Well, I do have two cats who like to sleep on my desk about an inch or two from it so I will keep it, if only to keep them from hitting the stylus while it plays and they stretch out.
BTW I do cover my TT with a very light silk cloth when not in use and I brush my vinyl before and after and then it goes straight back into the anti-static and into the sleeve then everything goes into a clear cover. Thanks!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog bud, removing the lid is like 3 seconds at the start of the listening session, and 5 at the end. Leaving a cloth on it when not in use? That's going to look much worse. No thanks.
Don’t agree with ditching a dust cover. I’ve got mine on a SOTA Sapphire TT for over 30 years now and it hasn’t interfered with the SQ one little bit but it has kept dust off of my turntable. Bad idea.
It is probably not so good to get dust on the record player or on the belt to the record player or on the carpet that is on the record plate. And it can quite quickly become dust, which you discover if you, for example, have black furniture. You can also see it on the TV screen when it is sunny on the TV screen. And dust particles can get into small places
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 I really appreciate your humor! Need more people addressing the silly stuff the trendy’s try to market. I really want to be an audiophile! LOL
Bob I have to say one the things I like best about your channel is the focus on fun. You, Randy, Guttenberg, and couple others are the only ones that aren't perputuating a wall of audiophile elitism. I belong to some FB groups tied some equipment I own and there are so many dudes with their egos tied to a pair of speaker or their opinions on cartridges. There is this huge disconnect between the younger folks driving the vinyl resurgence and the old guard that looks down their noses at anyone who dares challenge their belief that things can only be done a certain way and the other ways are apostasy. I love my vintage Cornwalls but it doesn't take a scientist to see the cabinets ring like crazy. I'd love to buy a new pair of Cornwalls but it also doesn't take scientist to see the components in the crossovers are barely better than the stuff on the floor at Best Buy. I like that you always stress the word "hobby" because for far too many old dudes this is a religion. I have an AARP card so I'm not saying old as a pejorative term except in the sense of having an open mind.
With all these upgrades, isn't it better to buy a better quality turntable right from the start? After all, all these upgrades cost something😉. Congratulations on your efforts, you are a refreshing addition to this hi fi community.
Within reason, any upgrade to a modest device is trumped by saving up a bit and buying a better device. The problem most run into is overspending... the "Ohhhh Shinnnneeeee" reaction to over the top silliness... that quickly becomes a rabbit hole of perennial dissatisfaction and expense.
Most of these upgrades, such as isolation feet, can be carried forward to your new turntable if you decide to do so. They will improve the results of any turntable.
Half these tips are highly debatable whether they actually help sound quality. plus you forgot the most important tip. Clean your records, stylus and turntable regularly (that's what the dust cover helps with).
3 comments: 1 - Cartridge and stylus: Hands off vintage and over-hyped, thus over-priced carts like Nagaoka (they nearly doubled prices after good reviews), which actually hurt my ears with their exaggerated punch! Best bang for buck, if you are not a bass freak, but prefer fine detail, is the Grado Black for 99 bucks. Otherwise, a basic VM95 Audio Technica gets sound done, and with a MicroLine stylus upgrade (MSRP USD 169 for complete new cart) they are devine! The all-present USD30 AT3600 is a conical, but some dealers have elliptical and even linear contact styli, and the 3600 with a elliptical is better than any el-cheapo has any right to be! An Ortofon 2M Red for USD99 sounds flat and boring, but some like it flat. There is also Sumiko, but I find them to be a bit to muffled in the treble for my taste, except their cheapest, the Oyster, which is fun and lively. Those are the only options still made for around and under 100 bucks! I am an old guy now, so I still have old Shure carts, with new stylus replacements still available, but do NOT try to buy an old cart, they are over-priced now, and sellers think they have a gold mine, when the above mentioned new options come with warranties and are guaranteed to work! Old carts can go bad, I had bad ones myself on old tables I bought as fixers, so be warned! 2 - Preamp: The Technolink, aka TEC, TC 760LC sells for under 100 bucks, can do moving coil (it does work!) and is surprisingly smooth and totally fatigue free! I have 2 of them, plus a 200 buckeroo Pro-Ject Phono Box S2. The Technolink is my daily driver at half the price of the Pro-Ject, go figure... All day listening, hearing good sound, and not getting ear and headaches, makes it a budget winner! 3 - The hood thing: Absolutely YES, remove it on great turntables, but the effects are not so noticeable on mid-fi gear. My vintage 70's Dual belt-tables don't care about wearing a hood or frolicking about naked, but they also do not reveal the sounds of growing grass! On my slightly tweaked best turntable (carefully adjusted VTA, Shibata stylus on Shure M95 series, glued on poly-foam mat, modified motor suspension, cable upgrade, Pro-ject PhonoBox S2 preamp), which is veeeeery sensitive and produces great sound, a MusicHall MMF 2.2 LE, not a China model, but a rebranded Pro-Ject Debut, the hood is on for dust protection, but it comes off for critical listening with good records. I can indeed hear nasty tone effects with the hood on, and hum increases!
Don't, under any circumstances. get a record weight. The late, great Ivor Tiefenbrun, inventor and manufacturer of the Linn LP12 demonstrably proved that additional pressure from such a weight would literally cause a point source bearing to drill through the thrust plate. Incidentally, a dust cover has a very important job; as the name impies it keeps dust off your platter which would then transfer to the underside of the record you're playing. It also keeps your precious and fragile stylus safe from the cat that's sleeping on it! o.k., that's two jobs.
Don't use a weight that's not the right approach a clamp is the better approach the light of the clamp the better. The weights will add more wear to the bearing on most turntables, and it is not good physics, the best thing is to get a ring to go on the outside.
High heat barbecue spray paint can take the ring out of an inexpensive aluminum platter easily with a layer or two. Just be sure to mask off the belt contact area beforehand.
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Just clean with alcohol and spray. We would sometimes do this to various lighting parts at High End Systems to eliminate light artefacts primarily but would also use it to mitigate noise issues as well. I've done it on several light aluminum platters over the years. It can deaden platter ring pretty well.
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Just clean the underside with alcohol, mask and spray. You can apply as many coatings as you care to take time with. I picked this up from High End Systems years ago. We would sometimes use this trick to stiffen and reduce noise in some of the thin metal parts used in some of the lights. I've used it on 80's model JVC and Technics belt drives as well as other cheapies I've picked up over the years.
Don’t always trust what people like Bob say. Don’t remove the dust cover. It is really stupid to do that. Turntables have come with dust covers for years and they still do. And that is not for nothing. Dust gets on your mat / slipmat. And it might not be a problem for side A. But when you start playing side B of the record that you have just flipped over it will have all the dust that was on your mat because you did not use a dustcover. And that dust also gets on your stylus. Think before you follow stupid advice like this.
Tip #1 is trash. No thanks. Dust cover keeps the dust out when not in use. Next, there's no effect on sound with the dustcover down. So, there's no gain in your suggestion. Hah-hah, tip #3 get a better stylus? You're right, spending more money is an "easy" upgrade. #5 the record clamp? Has no value or improvement to sound. My records are flat. LOL
@@zizendorfyou are totally wrong on covers, you need to clean your ears gahahaha, hahahaha, you can literally measure the distortion / rumble of a technics 1210 cover on vs off. The difference is significant. All tables are different mind you. I always take mine off to listen and put it back on when I’ve finished listening. Common sense matey. Simple common sense.
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A NOTE FROM THE AUTHOR: So... I am getting a little bit of "pushback" on my "ditch the cover" hot take. That is really my personal preference. I probably should have included in the video that I cover all my turntables, when not in use, with a very lightweight cloth. I hit my records with a brushing before and after playing each side. I NEVER leave a record on my table longer than it takes to play it. My records go straight back in the anti-static sleeve (that I buy for every record) and then the record and cover go into a clear poly sleeve. I'm NOT a dirty audiophile. I have a SpinClean and a Record Doctor VI. I don't know.. on a day when our leaders are claiming the government has "weather machines," how is this the worst thing someone can say! PS I'm not "stupid." But please continue to comment if you believe I misspoke... maybe you can change my mind. But, I don't think my house has that much dust... and besides, most people don't even clean their records after they buy them! I do. How dirty are they coming out of the factory. Thanks! - the Author
@UnitedStatesofAnalog The most important cleaning is the first one. That's a must to remove residue from the pressing process.
I only take the dustcover completely off when listening, though even that can be contentious as Roy Gandy (Mr Rega) recommends leaving the cover on in the down position when in use!
Happy listening from Scotland to all.
Jim🏴🙂
Anyone who leaves a record on their turntable platter is not really interested in being an audio enthusiast let alone an audiophile.
Covers up DO inject feedback and air vibration.
I too cover the platter(s) with a thick cloth and blow it off with a rubber rocket blaster. One cover is in the box and the other turntable didn't come with one - it is so tall an aquarium size cover would be needed.
Kuzma has a slick cover that is like plexiglass bent to shape with no sides. Don't know if it can be used on other turntables.
A couple of good shots of good whiskey takes the sound quality to incredible levels! 🤪
@@KOPOCT I've always thought that too!
A gummy takes up a few more 😂
VWestlife did a great video about the dust cover. He did all sorts of measurements. Either off or down was the final result. I definitely use mine. It provides some physical protection from anything stupid and general house dust does accumulate over time. I just put mine down when playing. Put a couple of those tiny felt pads on your turn table where it contacts the cover if you want more isolation than the little rubber bumper on the lid.
Same here I don't want anything floating down while I'm spinning that licorice pizzas so I keep mine down
Thanks for the info! I do protect my turntable and records in other ways. I'm already thinking about doing another video about the "cover controversy!"
Exactly doesn't change the sound. Some peoples isn't rich like you guys. We don't waste money over and over.
Btw my cat doesn't sleep on my dust cover, act like he know everything. Why do youtuber do that like stop really.
Good recommendations. I have one to add. Make sure your table is on a stable base. A heavy table or cabinet. On that heavy base, get yourself a heavy concrete patio stone. They are cheap, and can actually be quite aesthetic. We're talking $10. Put the stone on the cabinet, and then put your turntable (with it's new upgraded feet) on that stone. Dampling is critical, imo, and this is a great way to protect the stylus from vibrations. You also want to make sure that your turntable is behind your speakers. You do not want a speaker playing at your stylus. Likewise, speakers should not be on the same surface as the turntable. I know people have desktop rigs, and this sometimes cant be avoided - all the more reason to use that patio stone. Your speakers are otherwise loading bass into the surface that will then transfer to your stylus. So use as much mass as possible. You don't need to pay money for a branded "isolation platform" or whatever. Concrete is arguably the best substance for this purpose.
Otherwise, keep tweaking and upgrading. Its a journey, not a destination!
Hey I totally get why you would remove the dust cover when playing a record, I'm sure there are some Sonic vibrations that could vibrate that cover and possibly get to the stylus. I personally don't want to remove my dust cover so what I do when I close the top is put my extra record weight on top of my dust cover pretty much nulls any vibrations. It's not trash advice to remove your dust cover it's just personal preference.
The one upgrade I did to my 42 year old Dual CS-506 that you did not mention is #7 get better interconnects. This mod took the sound to the next level. My other mods for this turntable included a better sounding cartridge and Vibrapod isolators.
Cover on or off? That seems to be the controversy!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Cover off for sure. It can bring about extra vibration that will negatively affect sound quality. Never a good idea.
You should get a half inch adapter and change that Ortofon DN-155E ! I did that with my 506 and what a difference,! Only thing you have to be aware of is the VTA That will most likely be off but because of the additional space at the headshell end it's usually just a tiny bit low and trust me it won't make any difference. The one cartridge I put on my table was the Stanton ,681EEE Mk3 that suited the sound of it best.
@@dark-eternalknight3379 I did get that adapter back in 1989 with the counterweight. I've had a Shure Me97he cartridge attached to it ever since and to me it sounds perfect on my 506.
Dust covers are always in the way,good tip.
@@lanceolsun5752 Glad you agree! Not one of my most popular audio takes! Thanks!
All excellent recommendations. My Music Hall turntable came with most of them. Built-in level,record clamp,Ortofon Bronze cartridge. My McIntosh MX130 preamp has a great photo stage.
The 2M Bronze was my starter cartridge...on a Fluance RT85 w/ a Pro-Ject Tube Box S2 phono pre. The 2M Bronze is a great little piece of kit...and I honestly only moved on from this setup because the turntable stuck out like a sore thumb in my system. It sounded/performed great.
I'm currently running the Concorde Music Black LVB 250 on a Music Hall Stealth w/ a Black Ice Audio Fusion9 MkIII phono pre. Real solid stuff imho...and this is my endgame.
EDIT: I initially asked if you're using the 2M Bronze or the concorde music bronze...but then realized you said your 'table came w/ the Bronze & that it's a Music Hall. That's a 2M Bronze all day, every day.
@dizzle1119 Unless there's a failure, this is the turntable I will stick with till the end. I'm 72, and it should outlast me with proper care. FYI, associated equipment is Parasound A23 powering Sonus Faber Sonetto IIIs and Miller & Kreisel V-2B subwoofer. I'm very satisfied.
@@johnlangdon4338 Looks like a solid list of gear to me, sir...
Thanks, John! I do it all for you!
Glad you mention a clamp, however its main advantage is to damp record vibration or echo. Its a fine tune to use a good mat in conjunction, but the clamp helps any mat. If anyone wants to use a test to know the difference a clamp makes, I can tell.
Good info ... thanks! We are always learning in this hobby!!! Thanks for watching!
All good tips. I ditched the cover on my Rega RP8. It affected the mid vocal region blurring the sound stage some. But, if you like the cover, remove it when playing. The level can be affected if playing with the cover up. Was the level checked with the cover on and down?
My RP8 has a frame that the turntable sat in and the lid's mounting slid into the base or frame. Even though the feet touched the table through the base, the base affected the sound, with the lid removed. Fortunately, the RP8 is a skeletal design which minimizes surface area that can pickup vibration and allowed the base and cover to be removed.
A STURDY table to place the turntable on could be No. 7. Some people mount a shelf to a wall but I have a concrete floor which vibrates less than the walls. If possible, avoid passageways to minimize footsteps.
Like your make analog great again hat ! 😊😊
@@paulomontero12 my son actually made one for me but I can't wear it.
I have a Thorens TD-160 with a hinged dust cover. I've never taken it off (I have a cat) and don't want to leave it off plus my house can get a bit dusty. The TD-160 has really good acoustic isolation and wondering if removing the dust cover would make a difference? By the way, I really enjoy your channel. I'm an audiophile but enjoy your sense of humor about this hobby. Some people take is far too seriously.
What's cool is that everyone has their methods and rituals! Thanks for the comments!
I definitely agree about an external phono preamp. Makes a huge difference in SQ
@@stimpy1226 Unless your amp has its own high quality phono stage. Mine does.
Thanks Bob for suggesting the Waxwing. I'm supposed to be getting it soon. Give you some thoughts on it after I get it 🎉
Hope you like it! I love it! I'm surprised it doesn't have a bunch of copycats!
It has completely revolutionised my vinyl listening. A gamechanger product.
To make my turntable sound truly amazing, I've created a setup where I stream my FLAC files in parallel with the spinning record. Here’s how it works: my amplifier is connected to a DAC that plays the music from my streamer, while the turntable is simply spinning the record for that authentic vinyl experience. I've organized my FLAC collection into A and B sides, mirroring the record's format, so I still get to enjoy the tactile ritual of flipping the record over.
To make it seamless, I've placed a Bluetooth button next to the turntable, allowing me to "flip" sides with a single press. The streamer runs a plugin that handles the side-switching for me. This setup means I can enjoy the full, beautiful routine of using my turntable while always hearing the music with pristine quality, as if it’s the very first play of the record.
I’m currently working on phase two of my setup, which involves using RFID technology to automatically identify each record. This way, I won’t even need to connect to the streamer manually; the system will recognize the record as soon as I place it on the turntable. I’m very close to getting this to work, and once it's set up, it will truly complete the authentic vinyl experience.
I should also mention that I have a filter running on my streamer, which I can activate to simulate the sound of a worn-out, dusty record. It’s perfect for when I want to embrace the nostalgia of a vintage vinyl sound while keeping the convenience and quality of my modern setup. The USB button I have is also a rotatable dial! If I manage to get the intensity of the filter working with the dial I'm set!
@@cunawarit LMAO So, your digital playback replaces analog? Well, that’s not the vinyl experience…
@zizendorf Indeed, all sound is ultimately analog; a DAC's primary role is to convert digital data back into analog waves that reach our ears. While my approach might not conform to traditional vinyl purism, it's designed to enhance the experience-which is, after all, a deeply personal and relative concept. The tactile ritual, the act of flipping sides, and even the simulated imperfections serve to create an immersive environment that resonates with my interpretation of the 'vinyl experience.' The notion that one can judge the authenticity of another’s experience is, perhaps, missing the point. In the end, isn't it the joy of the ritual that matters most?
I confused. Are you playing a record and a FLAC file at the same time? If so, how do you keep them in sync?
@@garytempleton5097 crucially you don't have to, it's a vinyl simulation.
I don't hate your methodology. Is it just one disc that you use?
Excellent information, Sir ! Thanks for sharing. Been an audio enthusiast since 1969, and feel that I am probably somewhere in the middle of the learning curve. Totally agree with you about the dust cover issue. IMHO, leaving the dust cover on while playing is similar to the sail on a sailboat, the cover serves to catch any and all vibrations and transmit them directly to your stylus....BAD JUJU !
Started using protective PVC outer sleeves for LPs in the mid-`70s, and also have upgraded inner sleeves to archival-quality ones from MoFi, TT Lab, etc. Albums have become expensive, sleeves are cheap protection.
Currently spinning on the TT: King Crimson "Live in Frejus, France 1982"
Em um próximo vídeo, você poderia falar sobre regulagem de peso do braço, rotação do prato e ant skating. Ambos regulados melhoraram 100% a qualidade de capitação. Parabéns pelo vídeo
Though I'm not a vinyl devotee, your informative vids are always appreciated. No stylus shaming here, just don't have enough time left to start collecting albums, even if you gave me RCA, Capitol and Columbia House Record Club memberships. (Remember those?)
Thanks... and yes, I abused many record clubs back in the day! Thanks for watching!
@@eddents Yes, I remember those… Some of the worst pressings ever and a really annoying process for returns! The worst…
Great video, with lots of good links. However, there is one link I was hoping to find, but did not. Where's the link to buy one of the t-shirts you're wearing in the video? That is a great looking shirt, and I really want one. BTW, I most definitely subscribed and may join once I take in a couple more videos. Thanks.
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Bought a new turntable and speakers a month ago. I'm 70 and wanted a good turntable and I found one! The U-Turn theroy is a beautiful thing 😍. The sound is out of this world and is the best $999.00 I've ever spent. It has all the bells and whistle s you suggested. If anyone needs a new turntable I highly recommend the Theroy.
Thanks for sharing! Congrats on your purchase! Now take the dust cover off and display the turntable proudly!!!
curious as to what made you decide on the Uturn. I have about 1k and the uturn is on my list but i also have a handful of others im looking at as well
So many Vinyl people recommend removing the dust cover -- even the manual on my turntable says to do that. Problem: I get a LOT of dust buildup on the record in a matter of seconds. Just the atmosphere of my apartment, I guess. I keep the dust cover on, except if I'm doing a digital recording of a record I have that was never reissued digitally (and I have a LOT) -- I have to flip the internal preamp to the on position to do that, and the internal preamp is VERY sensitive. Lots of rumbling comes over on the recordings if I keep the dust cover on. No rumbling picked up at all though when I turn off the preamp and listen via my Sony receiver.
After my Technics SL-5 finally died, i went to a dealer (after doing research) and, with the budget I had to work with at the time, bought a Rega P2 and had the original (carbon) upgraded to an AT-VM540ML before I picked it up. Then after finding that I had to crank up the volume on my AVR to get any decent sound using the phono input, I bought a Rega Fono MM Mk5, changed the input to CD and Presto!. I found out that the S/N on the AVR was about 20 dB less than on a stand-alone phono preamp. I then bought a pair of cutting boards from Walmart and a couple sets of rubber bumpers from Home Depot and made myself an isolation table (leveled with a handful of scratch pads). I DO use my dust cover, but I don't use a record weight because it was recommended not to, either by Rega or the dealer I used. Overall I'm very happy with my modest setup, although now I wonder what a premium preamp would do (i.e. one that costs as much as the table and stylus), but that's the least of my concerns at the moment!
My 'vinyl journey' commenced in 1964 and I acquired my present turntable in 1999.
Thank you so much, you are awesome!
Some sound advice in this video. Everyone has different ears and preferences that may require different “tweaks”. If you can adjust the height of your tonearm then try using more than one mat, maybe even experiment with mixing different materials, the more isolated from the motor the better. Also clean your mat regularly, I use felt, so a quick vacuum (off the turntable) does the trick and helps prevent dust from making my records sound old.
Thanks Bob!
Thank you!!!
If I’m running my turntable (fluance rt 82) through a receiver (Denon AVR 1801), can I gain benefit from adding a preamp or no? Thx
I love the hats !! Where can I buy one?
You da greatest! Thank you Sir! Wish I had thought of phono pre Amp years ago! ABBA on pre Amp! Wow! Thank man!❤
I need those Heco speaker you have back there!!
@@lilman1234able I like 'em!
Solid Advice Bob!! ❤🎉😊
@@abxaudiophiles Thanks, ABX!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog-You are welcome! Your vibes and scene are addicting! I love your channel, man! You consistently produce top-notch content!
MEXICAUDIO recommended SOUNDECK MATT which is the most efficient at stopping vibrations. Why? He took the plate of a high end turntable and with a little hammer made it sound like a bell. Then put different types of Matts to see if they can stop vibrations. Only SOUNDECK MATT could
What I’ve done is get a stereo cabinet that has a top that can lift up keeps out dust and allows me to have no dust cover on
Great solution. I use a light silk cloth to cover when I'm not using
nice one, Bob!
Thanks, Bro!
I got a Crosley and put a Sumiko Black bird cartridge on it but didn't hear much difference 😞
You can't have just any cartridge as long as you can raise the position of the tonearm. or otherwise do so that there is the right number of degrees on the carriage/Needle. and the phono preamp built into the record player or other phono preamp. may not have support for an MM cartridge but perhaps only an MC cartridge
To start, research on #1. An open dust cover is certainly bad, but a closed probably has way more pros than cons. More than a slight resonance which only the best system will pick up, dust will be heard by even the most basic turntables. Keep your dust cover, down except when changing the record or flipping it over.
Two, clean your records. Use an antistatic brush and a stylus cleaner. Static doesn't sound great and your records don't have to crackle and pop. Get a cleaner like the Spin Clean Record Washer and you'll be amazed! You don't need to spend 1000's on an ultrasonic cleaner.
I have a SpinClean and a Record Doctor 6. Thanks for the notes! I get your point. But I'm up in the air about it. I don't like dust... but I don't like over handling the cover. Thanks
Please explain how a weight in the center of a record can affect the vast warpage when it is an issue primarily on the outer tracks of the record. I don't see it. Been in the game nearly 50 years and own 2 weights. That being said, I can not hear any discernable difference in the sound.
I can't. I'm talking about very minor warp situations. Hey, I ain't the first one to say it! Thanks for the watch! I ain't no genius!
clamps &weights are to stabilise the record not flatten it. A common misconception
You need a periphery weight to address warps. Not all tables can accommodate them. Center weights can help with some warps, but are mostly good for damping/stability.
Keep the cover on. Do you have a cat? Also my place gets dusty. Also put the cover down when you spin the record. It can add to the mass and reduce vibrations slightly.
I don't hate it!
newbie here - i was skeptical that taking off the dust cover would make ANY difference. Well color me corrected. There was this hard-to-describe flatness or foggyness to the record compared with the digital version. Took the dust cover off and boom. It sounded just as good. I kinda wish it hadn't been so evident, cuz now I'm in the rabbit hole.
Can someone point me to a several thousand dollar placebo? I know some can be had for free, but the really good ones cost more money.
1:26 1. Dust cover
2:41 2. Adjustable feet
3:37 3. Upgrade stylus
4:33 4. Mats
6:14 5. Weighted clamps for the LP
7:05 6. Phono Preamp
@@sirtainlee8725 Thanks so much! I wish I had the time to chapter-ize my videos... but I have a day job! Thanks
Is this Bob Fonseca from Dudley and Bob?
Same... but that's the previous brand
Liked and subbed 👍
Audio Club member has Italian air powered turntable VYGER Atlantis 😮
Thanks for the watch!
Record clamp vs weight -- In Los Angeles at a high end audio shop, I asked about this. The owner said, "I'll show you". First, Count Basie and the Kansas City 7 was put on. I think it was Count's Place that has a piano passage - overall, a great sound stage. Listened to a weight, clamp and no weight. Clamping excessively greatly reduced the sound stage.
The mat should have a reduced label area so the record isn't bent by a clamp or weight.
The clamp demonstrated was made for the turntable and he could really fit some force on it. Perhaps the one suggested won't apply such force (?).
Wow... that's pretty interesting. My acrylic mats have clearance for the labels. Good to know! Thanks!
1) my turntable has 4 half in springs suspending it in the air. 2) the platter is entirely plastic. 3) I have tried different platter mats and the only one that will operate on the platter is a foam mat, the cork gets hung up on the lift. 4) they only make replacement cartridges of the same caliber for the turntable. 5) I cannot put a record weight onto the platter due to the pole is about 5 in tall and is used as a record changer. 6) the record will not play with a cover on it due to the back of the tonearm will hit the back of the cover.
Wow! I'd like to see that rig!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog If I could attach pictures to the message boards here I would. I have several pictures of it.
What's your stand on a puck or clamp?
I have both. I use weights on my direct drives and pucks on my belt drives. Please don't ask me why?😅
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog i use puck on beltdrive. Maybe because the wight make the record make better contact with the platter? There's a lot of interference in record playing. Do not let it be your attention.
Sometimes bigger turntable doesn't mean better. For example Rega P8, P10, Naia, Naiad are smaller better than the lower Rega models.
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Nervous time in balancing that Arm 😊
To add to the dustcover debate there's a school of thought that a cover helps protect the stylus from airborne vibrations (from the speakers and cat etc), which seems obvious. Counter-argument is it creates a trapped volume of air which could, theoretically, resonate, but this is almost hypothetical. A dustcover is also subject to airbourne vibration but in a competent design these should be grounded by / drained to the plinth and isolated via the suspension. Free experiment; try it on, then off and see if you have a preference (or can even tell the difference at all!) Incidentally, if you're looking at replacing feet, three will always be inherently more stable than four; as any engineer will tell you, a tripod can't be rocked. As any Australian schoolboy guitarist will tell you; "'for those about to not rock, we salute you........" ;0)
Why would I upgrade a Koetsu Gold Blackline that is actually brand new… don’t ask me how I was able to buy it. Sounds magical. I also have a Goldman methacrylate platter cover with it’s matching record weight. I guess I am a little bit advance for this particular video. Sorry about that.
You're WAY advanced! But I'm glad you're here!
Well, I do have two cats who like to sleep on my desk about an inch or two from it so I will keep it, if only to keep them from hitting the stylus while it plays and they stretch out.
Lift the dust cover off when using and replace when finished.
Best response.
Ehhhh the Dust cover is easily lifted off, back on when not in use.
That's a lot of handling, though!
BTW I do cover my TT with a very light silk cloth when not in use and I brush my vinyl before and after and then it goes straight back into the anti-static and into the sleeve then everything goes into a clear cover. Thanks!
@UnitedStatesofAnalog my Cover is Super easy to move and I've got a spot for it, same care for the Vinyl here!
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog bud, removing the lid is like 3 seconds at the start of the listening session, and 5 at the end.
Leaving a cloth on it when not in use? That's going to look much worse. No thanks.
Don’t agree with ditching a dust cover. I’ve got mine on a SOTA Sapphire TT for over 30 years now and it hasn’t interfered with the SQ one little bit but it has kept dust off of my turntable. Bad idea.
@@stimpy1226 Respect.
It is probably not so good to get dust on the record player or on the belt to the record player or on the carpet that is on the record plate. And it can quite quickly become dust, which you discover if you, for example, have black furniture. You can also see it on the TV screen when it is sunny on the TV screen. And dust particles can get into small places
I put a $385 mat and spent $498.67 on isolation feet for my Crosley and it still sounds like 128mb mp3
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 I really appreciate your humor! Need more people addressing the silly stuff the trendy’s try to market. I really want to be an audiophile! LOL
You must have missed Amazon Days this week! You could have gotten all that for $27... and free shipping!
Bob I have to say one the things I like best about your channel is the focus on fun. You, Randy, Guttenberg, and couple others are the only ones that aren't perputuating a wall of audiophile elitism. I belong to some FB groups tied some equipment I own and there are so many dudes with their egos tied to a pair of speaker or their opinions on cartridges. There is this huge disconnect between the younger folks driving the vinyl resurgence and the old guard that looks down their noses at anyone who dares challenge their belief that things can only be done a certain way and the other ways are apostasy. I love my vintage Cornwalls but it doesn't take a scientist to see the cabinets ring like crazy. I'd love to buy a new pair of Cornwalls but it also doesn't take scientist to see the components in the crossovers are barely better than the stuff on the floor at Best Buy. I like that you always stress the word "hobby" because for far too many old dudes this is a religion. I have an AARP card so I'm not saying old as a pejorative term except in the sense of having an open mind.
0:28 A world of obsession lol
I couldn't remember how to spell it, so I didn't include it! Thanks!
With all these upgrades, isn't it better to buy a better quality turntable right from the start? After all, all these upgrades cost something😉. Congratulations on your efforts, you are a refreshing addition to this hi fi community.
@@gogo-fk1lu for sure. Just some ideas... but some upgrades could be done on mid-line tables.
Within reason, any upgrade to a modest device is trumped by saving up a bit and buying a better device. The problem most run into is overspending... the "Ohhhh Shinnnneeeee" reaction to over the top silliness... that quickly becomes a rabbit hole of perennial dissatisfaction and expense.
Most of these upgrades, such as isolation feet, can be carried forward to your new turntable if you decide to do so. They will improve the results of any turntable.
@@johnlangdon4338
True enough. Thanks.
@@johnlangdon4338
True enough. Thanks.
Half these tips are highly debatable whether they actually help sound quality. plus you forgot the most important tip. Clean your records, stylus and turntable regularly (that's what the dust cover helps with).
@@KidAJoe this video created a lot of great discussion, so that's a good thing
The main way is to replace it with a CD player 😆👍
I love CDs too. We can use multiple formats... not just at the same time!
3 comments:
1 - Cartridge and stylus: Hands off vintage and over-hyped, thus over-priced carts like Nagaoka (they nearly doubled prices after good reviews), which actually hurt my ears with their exaggerated punch!
Best bang for buck, if you are not a bass freak, but prefer fine detail, is the Grado Black for 99 bucks. Otherwise, a basic VM95 Audio Technica gets sound done, and with a MicroLine stylus upgrade (MSRP USD 169 for complete new cart) they are devine! The all-present USD30 AT3600 is a conical, but some dealers have elliptical and even linear contact styli, and the 3600 with a elliptical is better than any el-cheapo has any right to be! An Ortofon 2M Red for USD99 sounds flat and boring, but some like it flat. There is also Sumiko, but I find them to be a bit to muffled in the treble for my taste, except their cheapest, the Oyster, which is fun and lively. Those are the only options still made for around and under 100 bucks! I am an old guy now, so I still have old Shure carts, with new stylus replacements still available, but do NOT try to buy an old cart, they are over-priced now, and sellers think they have a gold mine, when the above mentioned new options come with warranties and are guaranteed to work! Old carts can go bad, I had bad ones myself on old tables I bought as fixers, so be warned!
2 - Preamp:
The Technolink, aka TEC, TC 760LC sells for under 100 bucks, can do moving coil (it does work!) and is surprisingly smooth and totally fatigue free! I have 2 of them, plus a 200 buckeroo Pro-Ject Phono Box S2. The Technolink is my daily driver at half the price of the Pro-Ject, go figure... All day listening, hearing good sound, and not getting ear and headaches, makes it a budget winner!
3 - The hood thing:
Absolutely YES, remove it on great turntables, but the effects are not so noticeable on mid-fi gear.
My vintage 70's Dual belt-tables don't care about wearing a hood or frolicking about naked, but they also do not reveal the sounds of growing grass!
On my slightly tweaked best turntable (carefully adjusted VTA, Shibata stylus on Shure M95 series, glued on poly-foam mat, modified motor suspension, cable upgrade, Pro-ject PhonoBox S2 preamp), which is veeeeery sensitive and produces great sound, a MusicHall MMF 2.2 LE, not a China model, but a rebranded Pro-Ject Debut, the hood is on for dust protection, but it comes off for critical listening with good records. I can indeed hear nasty tone effects with the hood on, and hum increases!
@@owenlaprath4135 Owen, thanks for all the great notes and recommendations! I appreciate you taking the time to educate us!
Another great episode! Thanks Bob, loved the witty humor.
Thanks... but Dave didn't! Different strokes... Thanks for watching and you are welcomed back!
Great stuff, Bob 🍺
Thank you kindly! Appreciate the watch!
When I got divorced, my audio gear sounded better. Food taste better too….
Congratulations! I hope you find love again!
Don't, under any circumstances. get a record weight. The late, great Ivor Tiefenbrun, inventor and manufacturer of the Linn LP12 demonstrably proved that additional pressure from such a weight would literally cause a point source bearing to drill through the thrust plate. Incidentally, a dust cover has a very important job; as the name impies it keeps dust off your platter which would then transfer to the underside of the record you're playing. It also keeps your precious and fragile stylus safe from the cat that's sleeping on it! o.k., that's two jobs.
Don't use a weight that's not the right approach a clamp is the better approach the light of the clamp the better.
The weights will add more wear to the bearing on most turntables, and it is not good physics, the best thing is to get a ring to go on the outside.
The best upgrade for a turntable is a CD player 😁
Damn... I wish I had thought of that line! You should do an open mic night!🎤 ! Thanks for watching!!!
Replace it with a cd player
Buy a cd player?!
@@grayjohn6332 Got a great one, too!
EASY WAY to Make Your TURNTABLE Sound MORE AWESOME - buy a better one
High heat barbecue spray paint can take the ring out of an inexpensive aluminum platter easily with a layer or two. Just be sure to mask off the belt contact area beforehand.
For real??? I have some in the garage. Would I need to sand the surface?
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Just clean with alcohol and spray. We would sometimes do this to various lighting parts at High End Systems to eliminate light artefacts primarily but would also use it to mitigate noise issues as well. I've done it on several light aluminum platters over the years. It can deaden platter ring pretty well.
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog Just clean the underside with alcohol, mask and spray. You can apply as many coatings as you care to take time with. I picked this up from High End Systems years ago. We would sometimes use this trick to stiffen and reduce noise in some of the thin metal parts used in some of the lights. I've used it on 80's model JVC and Technics belt drives as well as other cheapies I've picked up over the years.
Don’t always trust what people like Bob say. Don’t remove the dust cover. It is really stupid to do that. Turntables have come with dust covers for years and they still do. And that is not for nothing. Dust gets on your mat / slipmat. And it might not be a problem for side A. But when you start playing side B of the record that you have just flipped over it will have all the dust that was on your mat because you did not use a dustcover. And that dust also gets on your stylus. Think before you follow stupid advice like this.
@@theaudiosenseinl Thanks for the engagement!
Your advice is good but the corny stupid stuff gets tiring over a 10 minute video!!!
@@davepounds8924 You got that right! What the world needs now is another TH-camr…
Well I guess I didn't lose a viewer, you lost a channel.
Tip #1 is trash. No thanks. Dust cover keeps the dust out when not in use. Next, there's no effect on sound with the dustcover down. So, there's no gain in your suggestion. Hah-hah, tip #3 get a better stylus? You're right, spending more money is an "easy" upgrade. #5 the record clamp? Has no value or improvement to sound. My records are flat. LOL
@@zizendorf Sounds like you have it all covered! 🏆
@@zizendorf Every single one of your records is completely flat?
@@UnitedStatesofAnalog That’s correct. I’ve not had a warped or defective album in decades.
Great video, as always very useful and entertaining...
@@zizendorfyou are totally wrong on covers, you need to clean your ears gahahaha, hahahaha, you can literally measure the distortion / rumble of a technics 1210 cover on vs off. The difference is significant. All tables are different mind you. I always take mine off to listen and put it back on when I’ve finished listening. Common sense matey. Simple common sense.
Good afternoon, I hope you are well. I congratulate you on your channel, it is good and entertaining. I would like to ask you a question, can you give me your email? Best regards,