Totally. It's pretty laughable that people are making this sound like a reasonable trade. They're asking for Vassell and the Atlanta 2025 pick. 🤣🤣🤣 I like Lauri, but he's not worth that much. Lmao the Jazz can keep him if he's that valuable to them.
No they don't...they drafted devins replacement castle 😅same player just cheaper and healthier now...plus devin saying he not robin to wemby said alot 😅put him on trading block and mark is Cooper Flagg but ready to help wemby now 😅
??? How come? Do you think the Jazz would trade Markkanen JUST for the picks? They wouldn't. No matter how many picks we are talking about. Reason is that the Jazz are already loaded with picks. They are in a rebuild phase and only really valuable picks for them are '25 and '26 picks. They definitely want young promising player(s) to be included in the trade package.
@@-KFAD- Lol no... Jazz has 2025 Minnesota and Clev 1r picks, those teams are not lottery picks, same in 26, their best chance is 2027/28/29 Also from MIN and CLEV,, so no JAZZ is NOT loaded with picks LOL..
Being completely honest guys like Vassel (shot creating wings), are way easier to find than a guy like Lauri, trading for Lauri and finding another guy to be the wing is a better option in general
@@cadfael3257while i agree with ur take, its better for the spurs to give up keldon than vassell cuz between those two, vassell produces better numbers
@@iamcool1258 Yeah, Vassel is a way better option, it is better give up Keldon or Sochan, the thing is that Ainge also know this and he is a freaking horrible negotiator in the sense of reducing his asking price i doubt that he is going to give up easily, i am praying that Lauri ends up either in the warriors, spurs even the grizzlies instead of the OKC, that super team would be nasty
As a Spurs fan i dont want to trade Vassell and the Hawks picks. I would trade Minnesota's picks, Dallas pick, 2027 and 2029 Spurs picks, Keldon and Tre Jones for Lauri and Kessler
@@matiaselidd1359 don’t waste the assets, all that for someone for one year? Not worth it. I think no gm wants to do that and basically hand Utah their future. Teams should be smart and wait for Lauri to extend or become a free agent before trying to get him for a boat load of capital/players. Patience especially from the spurs, they don’t need Lauri rn but the season after next maybe they sign him who knows
@@2ClutchCee I would love for that to happen but San Antonio is not Boston, Los Angeles or Miami the big free agents don't usually come to play with us. Lamarcus Aldridge was the only
I didn't understand. Don't you want the Jazz to build a competitive team? The Jazz as is constructive today, don't compete for anything. Markkanen is not a franchise player, he is the 2nd or 3rd option on a contender team.
@@IgorBarduco i dont think jazz want to rebuild there team.what kind of rebuild? Why they trade there star players? Mitchel and gobert,now they are trading again makenen and kesler..so whats next for them? After having star player they trade again! I think jazz dont want star players!
@@IgorBarduco we can keep Markennan and still be competitive. He has shown flashes of being a number one option and continues to improve. Whether or not he becomes that, time will tell, but regardless, we want him in Utah and he wants to stay here.
I don't think Vassell will be involved in any trade, primarily because he just signed a long-term contract last summer, meaning the Spurs have him under control at a very affordable price for another three years or so. Markkanen, on the other hand, is in the last year of his contract and is due for a massive payday (prob at least 50M).
Lauri's contract isn't going to be that big. Even if he signs a max he is not eligible for that kind of salary. Any team planning to trade for Lauri is already factoring in the price of his contract extension.
The chemistry built between wemby and vassell is already too high to just get rid of like that, a keldon, with blake wesley and/or malachi branham, and picks from 2027-2029 and the hawks 2027 is about as much as im willing to give up. If not, just wait until the offseason or trade deadline.
My buddy works in the Jazz front office in an administrative role and said there’s been buzz about a Lauri trade, but he and a few others don’t see Utah trading him unless the package was too good to pass up. AKA, young players and a load of draft picks. I think Lauri is extremely talented, but I view him as a Mikal Bridges where yes he’s a great player, but his stock rises significantly where he is the main option, but isn’t a guy you can build a team around. He’d be a great maybe second option, but probably as your 3rd or even 4th. Considering he’s on a bad team with the main role, he looks significantly better, but it’s not like he’s new in the league. The cavs and bulls decided to move on from him for what looks like Pennies on the dollar whereas if anybody trades for Lauri, they will give Utah dollars
@@jpheininen6465 lol yeah 3rd or 4th. Do you view him as a 2nd option on an actual contender?? I definitely don’t. And you forget he was quite literally a 3rd-4th option on the bulls and cavs and they still moved on from him. Hes just enjoying being the main option on a bad team
@@benwelch6554 in my opinion he is a good second option. It just tells me that you haven't followed Lauri much if you think he is a fourth option..he will be borderline all-star and that's never a fourth option in any team.
@@jpheininen6465 lol I’m a massive UofA fan and watched every single one of his college games and have followed him closely since. Also if you read my original comment, my friend is in Utah’s front office so I would say I follow Utah very closely as well. That’s your opinion, doesn’t mean my opinion of him not being a second option is because “I don’t follow him.” I love Lauri as a player, just my opinion that his stock has profited a lot off being the main guy on a bad team but obviously can still contribute to a contender in a big way. He’s not making a team a contender simply by adding him though imo. Only time will tell because it does seem he will be traded and you could 100% be correct🤷♂️
@@jpheininen6465 also borderline all star level I’d say Jrue Holiday, Porzingus, and Derrick White are there which is Celtics 3rd, 4th, and 5th option. Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Jr are borderline all stars and they are Denver’s 3rd and 4th option. Those are the last 2 championship teams🤷♂️
I would kick myself as the Spurs if the only thing that stopped me from getting a frontcourt of Wemby and Lauri was Devin Vassel. He's a good player, but having 2 mobile 7 footers at the 4 and 5, after you just drafted your PG of the future and signed CP3, is an opportunity you simply can't miss out on!
Vassell isn't going anywhere, he's only 23 yrs old, and had the best chemistry with wemby as the season progressed, not worth it for a potential one yr rental. Keldon, Tre plus 2-3 picks should be enough unless Ainge is greedy, then I wouldn't do it if I'm the spurs
I don't think you can say they drafted their PG of the future? ideally you want a top 15 pg with Wemby. We have no idea if that's what Stephon Castle becomes.
@Shortballa11 Well, they had 2 picks, drafted 2 guards, and moved the one that was projected to go higher. They clearly have a lot of faith in Castle, and even if they don't, they still acquired CP3 for this season, and can look to acquire another PG in the future if Castle doesn't work out. Moving Vassel allows you to give up less around the margins. Utah don't really need another PG anyway, so Spurs could likely keep Jones if they move like Vassel, Keldon, and a pick or 2.
I feel like it would be so fun to see lauri play either on the heat spurs warriors or cavs. Hes such an underrated player. 7 footer who can shoot lights out, handles the ball well, defends well, and is a vibe.
I remember when Bulls fans wanted to trade this dude. I was such a huge trade Lavine and keep Lauri guy at the time. I knew he was gonna be awesome. His confidence took a dive but he always had the potential to be an All Star and better. Glad he’s thriving outside of Chicago. Wish we had him with Coby White and Wendell still. Oh what could have been.
Thing is is that Utah doesn’t really wanna lose him and he like it in Utah, so if teams want him, they got a mortgage the farm to get him. Utah can take their time cause they don’t have to rush
Lauri is not getting traded, he is signing an extension next month when Utah can offer it for him then for 6 months he can't be traded. None of these teams are paying the 5 picks Utah want. Its easy to say give all your picks for a role player like Lauri, but there is no way anyone goes over 3 picks, which is what Utah just rejected for Lauri. Kings were trying real hard to get Lauri and made good offers but the Jazz want to get a Mikel Bridges type package and that isn't real value for Lauri (or for Mikel)
@@JoshHartFitnessOfficialconsidering the cavs received Donovan Mitchell in return and just signed him to an extension I can’t understand how you could possibly call them clowns for that trade
If im the GM of Golden State there’s no WAY I’m trading Jonathan Kuminga if it doesn’t net me back a top 10 player. Maybe I’m just a lot higher on Kuminga than most, but the second half of his 2024 season was fucking electric.
Johnson, 2025 SPURS pick (not Hawks), 2025 BULLS pick, 2027 SPURS pick, and if need be the 2028 BOSTON swap. That right there is what I'm willing to trade for Markannen. Those HAWKS picks are way too valuable to trade away.
@offswitchtv109 When it comes to fit, assets, and mostly spacing, why would Buddy Hield not be mentioned? He said Warriors have a lack of spacing with Wiggins, Green, and Kuminga, and Curry being the exception. Great place to mention Buddy Hield.
Jazz are gonna want more than 2 picks, too. I don't think Warriors are gonna have enough even with JK. If Jazz trade LM, they're gonna go for Spurs or OKC because they can get 5 firsts, which I think is what the price for LM started at.
On top of that, Danny has said that he's not taking steps back in the rebuild process, so if he's trading him, it's to move forward the rebuild process.
@@brickflair8926 Mykal Bridges just happened too. But I think that's what makes Ainge great. He knows the desperation around the league. He just needs to tease them, flirt with them, and someone will give it up. For real, picks are like currency now, that's how you get deals done. And late firsts aren't as good as early firsts, so more have to be traded.
I think teams specifically want to extend him. They would be trading for the right to have him for the next 5 years. He is really good. Great 3-point shooting, strong shot creators, with so much size are rare.
Neither the Spurs nor the Warriors should trade for Lauri right now, especially since he is one year away from unrestricted free agency. He is 27; he should be sent to a contending team or a team on the rise, not a rebuilding team or a team who's stuck in purgatory.
The warriors better have kuminga on the no trade block! Lauri is not that good of an upgrade to trade kuminga/moody/2 picks. He’s not that much better then kuminga
@@NZbo-.-.-614 you’re trying to tell me a 21 year old who’s gotten better and more familiar with the system every year. Won’t continue to grow? His peak athleticism isn’t for another 4-8 years 😂 Lauri has peaked already. Kuminga will surpass Lauri’s skill. Look at what Lauri did in his early 20s. He was passed around like a pinball
@@jlzawitkowski even if you were correct. You wanna sit around and see IF Kuminga becomes a legitimate second option or you wanna trade for Lauri, who is a legitimate first option, that way 36 year old Curry has a chance to make one more run?
@@NZbo-.-.-614 yes because he already showed last year he can be a second option. So why trade a 2 for a 2 when ones only getting better every year and knows the system. Plus you’re giving up another young guy in moody who’s a good bench guy. Then also 2 future firsts (which if we traded for Lauri we’d suck then so they’d be lottery picks)
I really hope as a Milwaukee fan the bucks fly out of left field and trade for Lauri like they did for Dame. Potentially Pat C, Brooke Lopez, and Marjon Beauchamp
Trade Kuminga for Lauri would be a huge mistake... Kuminga is just 21 and his offensive production right now is almost the same as Lauri's production, with better defensive. (And Kuminga was sharing minutes and shots with veterans like Wiggins and Klay...). If the GSW want to space the floor, why not to trust in Moody or Quinones? Both can easily shoot 40% from 3...
Kuminga averaged 16-15 points lauri is closer to 25 points a game on better efficiency Kuminga is also a poor 3pt shooter, if y'all love your youth so much just trade steph and draymond for a good haul and move in that direction. Last season proved that none of those guys are ready to be no.2 option on a playoff team much less a championship one. I don't know what it is about large market fans and being so delusional about their young talent jeez.
As a person from the Bay, we’ve been saying this. Trade everyone not named Steph & Kuminga. Get the most we can for Wiggins, Draymond and Podz. Dunleavy has been making horrible decisions ever since he’s taken over.
@@samurai-jach Y'all can't give teams trash and expect gold in return. Wiggins is a negative asset under the new CBA so your going to be attaching something to him to get rid of him. Podz is good but he isn't the centre piece of any trade that moves the needle the same thing with the rest of your young talent. Y'all have 3 assets that teams really really want Steph, Kuminga and Picks. You can't hold on to your best assets and expect to get anywhere, at that point your just hoping that someone really wants to come to Golden State.
@@r.lr.l When Kuminga plays more than 30 minutes, his points and averages increase significantly and he almost matches the Lauri's production... You are not taking into account a simple fact: Kuminga and other youngs are playing under restrict minutes by coach's decision... Last regular season against Denver Nuggets, Kuminga made almost 20 points in 3 quarters and Kerr benched him... Lauri will be free agent next season. He is a very good player, but he is not Dirk or Oscar Schmidt or Kevin Durant. GSW need more defense and rim protection.
I feel like the extension "deadline" is a much bigger deal than just a throwaway mention at the end of the video and handicaps Utah more. It's also why either the Dubs and Spurs can sit and not have to offer their best deal since every day that ticks closer to that extension deadline, the less leverage Ainge has. It behooves Ainge to trade Lauri before it gets to that extension deadline because all Lauri has to do is wait until Aug 7 to sign his extension and then he can't be traded this season. Suddenly Utah has a floor raiser on their team signed long term that is untradeable and could put them outside the top 10. Then the Lauri chip is wasted. Lauri could also just not sign the extension at all and then he's playing on an expiring deal which won't get the same value either since Ainge would be desperate to move him to get something back. Of course this is Ainge so he thinks he's slick enough to think he can fleece someone but I do feel like he's overplayed his hand.
As a Spurs fan, there is zero chance Vassell is traded in a move for Lauri. Keldon is more likely to be traded, but even then I think it’s unlikely at this point. Feels like the Spurs don’t want to rush too soon - one more year of development feels like the right call, especially with Lauri likely commanding a significant pay raise after this year
That's the one I feel like is a perfect fit, and they have more picks than they need. But they signed I Hart, so I don't think they want to go for that anymore, unless they want to play Lauri at the 3 and 4.
@@SamReynols that’s tru, but i feel like in order to maximize their window they have to strike fast and trade for him while he’s still on his super low deal.
Is a trade with the Houston Rockets possible ? With the extension of Green and Sengun comming soon, maybe Switch Green with lauri markanen is not a Bad Idea.
Hawks could be a destination too. They got assets. Will probably send Capela away and replace him with Okungwu. Markkanen next to him is an intriguing front court.
Man that’s tuff. As a Spurs fan I definitely do not want to get rid of Vassel. However, something that my fellow Spurs fans need to think about is that Vassel in recent history has been a tad injury prone. This would be the ONLY reason I would second guess my choice for trading him. 🤔
If I’m the Spurs this is my best offer: Keldon Johnson, SA 2025 1st, CHI 2025 1st, SA 2027 1st, BOS 2028 pick swap, SA 2028 1st, and MIN 2031 1st. I’d prioritize keeping the ATL picks and the 2030 pick swaps they’ve accumulated bc chances are one of those teams is going to stink by then.
One more thing. Lauri can’t be traded for 6 months after he signs his extension. So if he doesn’t want to get traded he’ll wait until the end of the summer to sign. That way the 6 month period includes next seasons trade deadline.
I wish people would stop dragging San Antonio into all these trade rumors. The dumbest thing they can do right now is trade all these valuable pics, especially in the 2025 and 2026 drafts for a player who doesn't move the needle, like Laurie, and then have to turn around and give him a max contract. That is the stupidest way you can try to build a team right now, especially in the absolutely loaded Western Conference. They need to focus on getting Victor a second star in the draft over the next couple of years. Jordan and LeBron didn't even win their first championships till their late 20s. Everybody needs to chill out on thinking that Wemby has to be competing in year two.
GSW would be foolish to make that trade, Markkanen is good but he aint THAT good and his numbers can be attributed to being on a terrible team, he's literally NEVER played winning basketball his entire NBA career, and if traded it would be his 4th team as a young player with a good contract, that GSW package is a package for a superstar type player and Lauri Markkanen isn't a superstar, he's low-key barely a star, he was just a part of the Donovan Mitchell trade package a couple seasons ago that included 2 other lottery picks and multiple 1st as well, he's a good player but on a winning team at BEST he should be your 3rd option, a lot of guys look like stars on bad teams
What's all this gibberish about the Jazz "losing the pick to OKC"?? A) They already got value when they traded the pick. B) It's top 10 protected anyway. Don't act like they're losing a chance at Cooper Flagg. C) IF the Jazz stay out of the bottom 10, it'll be because some or all of the 7 (SEVEN!) first round picks they've scooped up in the last two years have worked out really well for them, with more 1st rounders than they need coming up. I don't think Ainge is as pressured in the Markonnen situation as some of y'all seem to think.
Let me start by saying I’m 56 and a huge spurs fan for my whole life . But the other spurs fans comments on here are ridiculous . Saying how trading Vassell is a mistake . That shows two things. 1) you are simply thinking with your hearts and not your brain 2) you know nothing about basketball Lauri is an all nba caliber player who fits a position and several needs that the spurs want . Vassell will NEVER be half the player Lauri is . Never. If you think so , you haven’t watched either player or you just don’t understand basketball . Plus Pop just said tonight that Castle will play serious minutes , because of how advanced he is already . What position do you think he’s gonna play? Not gonna take CP3, Wemby or Barnes spots . He isn’t going to play the 4 or 5. So that leaves Vassell as the 6th man. A place he will flourish ! Starting five of CP3 , Castle , Barnes, Lauri and Wemby would put them as a contender . You keep Vassell , they win35/40 games . It’s insane to want to keep him lol Whatever the spurs do , please trade keldon . Give him away for free for all I care .
Nah, Vassell is untouchable. They said it weeks ago. That's a wrong take. I don't think the Spurs trade for Markkanen. To bring in Paul and Barnes is for Mentorship. They want to develop and become a better team now.
Where is the best fit for Lauri? Is it on the spurs beside wemby? Or the thunder maybe starting beside Chet and bringing ihart off the bench all 3 getting 25 to 30 mins a game sometimes going big and moving Lauri to 3. Or is it a completely different team. I personally would love the thunder. Just that big man rotation would be great defensively either way ihart and Chet great offensively with Chet and Lauri. Can go small with shai jdubb dort Caruso chet can go huge with shai jdubb lauri chet ihart can really play anyway they want.
I have been saying all along that OKC is the best fit for Lauri, with the most picks to offer Utah. But I think Ainge and Presti are the kinda GMs that want to swindle other teams, so I don't know if they can make a deal. :D
@shorewall lol I tend to agree with that. With that said the 25 draft is loaded and okc does own the jazz pick. Trading them that pick back plus maybe 3 additional picks one would think is worth 5 firsts from someone else. I'm not sure if they have the salaries to trade. But man a team of Shai jdubb dort chet ihart Lauri Caruso is pretty insane. You most likely Cason Wallace and both williams off the bench and are you able to trade Wiggins or Joe who they just resigned or u gotta wait a yr or something?
@@MrPek-fe9fp maybe tho wemby imo would have to be better then shai and chet combined for that. Thunder just a much better team and they are as young or younger with more draft picks.
I don’t get why everyone wants the spurs to compete right now. Like let them build a roster with good talent first cause Lauri is 28 by the time Wemby is 25 he’ll be 32 and you want to trade Devin Vassel for that?
If Utah can get Kuminga & all available GSW firsts, Danny better take that... Keeping their top 10 pick in this year's deep draft us crucial. You get to tank, keep that pick, get 2 future picks, ANND you get to a potential All-Star forward. Even if the Spurs offer more picks, Vassell is a 6'5" SG. There are a lot more of those out there than a 6'8" combo forward.
Give up vassell with a really good contract seeing how good he is + picks for a player that is gonna be free agent... I rather be bad another year and have a chance for flagg than have Lauri for that price
Thank you. It doesn’t make sense with the last trades they made CP3 and Barnes. That tells me they want to be in the drafts for 2025-2026. Lauri wants to compete. I wouldn’t do it if I were the spurs.
It makes sense to trade Markannen. You didn't get him to make this team better - you got him because he wasn't getting enough playing time in Cleveland so if you just gave him a starting role with enough minutes he's an obvious buy-low / sell-high.
I'm sorry, but trading a young star player so that you can suck and get a top 10 pick that MIGHT be a top 5 pick that MIGHT get you a young star is the DUMBEST motive to make a trade I've ever heard.
Lets put Devin Vassell value in context here. He signed a 5 year/140m deal, basically making slightly under 30m each year. Franz just signed a 220m deal for 5 years. Vassell is just as good if not better than Franz Wagner, they had the same stats last year and Vassell can actually shoot threes. When you build Spurs trades, put Harrison Barnes and Zach Collins in there, because the Spurs are not trading these amazing contracts they sealed with super valuable players. Keldon Johnson makes half of what Vassell does, and averaged 22 ppg a couple of years ago. These are deals you get to keep, not to trade, because in the current free agency market players get paid far too much. Devin is not leaving the Spurs, he is untouchable and wont be moved no matter who is on the other side of the trade. His deal is too good to enable you to build a deep team around wemby
Why is it so important that Utah keep their 2025 pick? if it lands in the top 10, wont the warriors just get a 2026 unprotected pick? surely thats even worse to give up?
The Jazz should trade Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson, Talen Horton-Tucker, Lauri Markkanen, John Collins, Walker Kessler, to the Blazers for Scoot Henderson, Dalano Banton, Anfernee Simmions, Matisse Thybulle, Jerami Grant, Robert Williams, DeAndre Ayton in that order........
If golden state does the deal that you're suggesting:then who ends up playing center? I understand that they can play small ball with Draymond as center but that's not going to work all the time. They need a true big to play center for a lot of minutes. Who would take that spot?😊
Trading vassell and 3 firsts for lauri would maybe be the biggest fleece ainge has pulled off yet. I think lauri is a great player but vassell has potential to be just as good if not better, and he’s a lot younger with less injury risk in my opinion. It’s crazy to think that the spurs would be willing to trade vassell for him straight up, let alone adding multiple firsts.
Jazz fan and big fan of Lauri. Wish he was 3 or 4 years younger so that he fit the Jazz timeline, but that isn’t the case. Personally I think we need to trade him and get future building pieces. Not interested in trading with GSW. I think OKC and SA have the most to offer and I would listen to them.
Here's what I don't get: yes, Kuminga, Wiggins and Green is an awkward fit offensively, but since when was offense the entire game? Lauri is a HORRIFYING fit defensively for the warriors. With Steph and Lauri in the starting lineup every night, the warriors have two defensive negatives in the starting lineup. That team isn't getting past the second round of the playoffs, absolute best case scenario. A trade for Lauri washes the rest of Steph's career. The only you get far in the playoffs with this version of Steph is to surround him with long, athletic, twitchy players who can defend at a high level and defend multiple positions at a high level, and hope they can develop enough offense to compete. That's players like Kuminga and Moody.
Trade? Ok. But I am not expecting San Antonio. He doesn't fit well at least timeline-wise. Maybe play him to trade him later with "more" value like OKC did in recent history. I don't see it happen. Spurs will want to develop for at least 1, probably 2 years. Look how they limited Wemby. "don't be too good"
#like last year Dame , but that was closer to August/September there's always that 2/3 trades or moves to prepare for the season teams trying to find there last pieces for best possible chance to make playoffs
Ainge be like, I want six 1st round picks and the rights to your next three childrens' souls.
and rights to a soul swap in the future
😂😂😂
“You must purify yourself in The Lake Minnetonka “ Danny Ainge
And a dumbass would bite
@@PrimordialBeing360😂😂😂 Game... blouses
The Spurs aren't trading Devin Vassell. They consider him part of the core.
Totally. It's pretty laughable that people are making this sound like a reasonable trade. They're asking for Vassell and the Atlanta 2025 pick. 🤣🤣🤣
I like Lauri, but he's not worth that much. Lmao the Jazz can keep him if he's that valuable to them.
No they don't...they drafted devins replacement castle 😅same player just cheaper and healthier now...plus devin saying he not robin to wemby said alot 😅put him on trading block and mark is Cooper Flagg but ready to help wemby now 😅
@@ericperales4505 you dont follow the spurs do you, they already stated that everyone is up for grabs except Vic and Vassell
@@ericperales4505shut up, your clueless.
@@ericperales4505not at all the same player they’re keeping vassell
I’m sorry but the idea that the Spurs would rather trade vassel than picks is laughable
obviously no one watch the Spurs only Wemby
@@kareemabdel-jabbar that's why you're a CF
??? How come? Do you think the Jazz would trade Markkanen JUST for the picks? They wouldn't. No matter how many picks we are talking about. Reason is that the Jazz are already loaded with picks. They are in a rebuild phase and only really valuable picks for them are '25 and '26 picks. They definitely want young promising player(s) to be included in the trade package.
@@-KFAD- Lol no... Jazz has 2025 Minnesota and Clev 1r picks, those teams are not lottery picks, same in 26, their best chance is 2027/28/29 Also from MIN and CLEV,, so no JAZZ is NOT loaded with picks LOL..
@@-KFAD- Also Danny Ainge is on crack if he thinks he can pimp the Spurs,,LOL no..
If Vassel is in the deal, not interested. Keldon and picks is wayyyyy more desirable if they were to trade at all.
Being completely honest guys like Vassel (shot creating wings), are way easier to find than a guy like Lauri, trading for Lauri and finding another guy to be the wing is a better option in general
@@cadfael3257while i agree with ur take, its better for the spurs to give up keldon than vassell cuz between those two, vassell produces better numbers
@@iamcool1258 Yeah, Vassel is a way better option, it is better give up Keldon or Sochan, the thing is that Ainge also know this and he is a freaking horrible negotiator in the sense of reducing his asking price i doubt that he is going to give up easily, i am praying that Lauri ends up either in the warriors, spurs even the grizzlies instead of the OKC, that super team would be nasty
No way the Spurs accept that trade. Vessel is too good to give away with picks for Markkenen.
@@iamcool1258I’d wanna offload keldon too. He’s nothing more than a streaky 6th man
As a Spurs fan i dont want to trade Vassell and the Hawks picks. I would trade Minnesota's picks, Dallas pick, 2027 and 2029 Spurs picks, Keldon and Tre Jones for Lauri and Kessler
That’s too much for a guy entering free agency next year
@@martianmurray I had to put in an extra pick because Utah wants a pick for Kessler and that's what we need besides Lauri.
@@matiaselidd1359 don’t waste the assets, all that for someone for one year? Not worth it. I think no gm wants to do that and basically hand Utah their future. Teams should be smart and wait for Lauri to extend or become a free agent before trying to get him for a boat load of capital/players. Patience especially from the spurs, they don’t need Lauri rn but the season after next maybe they sign him who knows
@@2ClutchCee I would love for that to happen but San Antonio is not Boston, Los Angeles or Miami the big free agents don't usually come to play with us. Lamarcus Aldridge was the only
Okc can offer more than that anyways
As a Jazz fan, I hated you when you said the Mitchell trade was a sure thing and then it happened. I really hope history doesn’t repeat itself 🙏
I didn't understand. Don't you want the Jazz to build a competitive team?
The Jazz as is constructive today, don't compete for anything. Markkanen is not a franchise player, he is the 2nd or 3rd option on a contender team.
@@IgorBarduco i dont think jazz want to rebuild there team.what kind of rebuild? Why they trade there star players? Mitchel and gobert,now they are trading again makenen and kesler..so whats next for them? After having star player they trade again! I think jazz dont want star players!
@@jeromeandres9395 Honestly, I think they want what every rebuilding team wants, to be the Oklahoma City Thunder.
@@jeromeandres9395you rebuild until you land on a true franchise player. Gobert, Mitchell, Marksnnen, none are true n1 guys for your franchise.
@@IgorBarduco we can keep Markennan and still be competitive. He has shown flashes of being a number one option and continues to improve. Whether or not he becomes that, time will tell, but regardless, we want him in Utah and he wants to stay here.
I don't think Vassell will be involved in any trade, primarily because he just signed a long-term contract last summer, meaning the Spurs have him under control at a very affordable price for another three years or so. Markkanen, on the other hand, is in the last year of his contract and is due for a massive payday (prob at least 50M).
Lauri's contract isn't going to be that big. Even if he signs a max he is not eligible for that kind of salary. Any team planning to trade for Lauri is already factoring in the price of his contract extension.
The chemistry built between wemby and vassell is already too high to just get rid of like that, a keldon, with blake wesley and/or malachi branham, and picks from 2027-2029 and the hawks 2027 is about as much as im willing to give up. If not, just wait until the offseason or trade deadline.
Markanen + Wemby pick and rolls would be absolutely brutal.
Who is the ball handler???
@@YodaSmokes Exactly.
Neither pass well.
@@YodaSmokeswemby. Watch games.
My buddy works in the Jazz front office in an administrative role and said there’s been buzz about a Lauri trade, but he and a few others don’t see Utah trading him unless the package was too good to pass up. AKA, young players and a load of draft picks. I think Lauri is extremely talented, but I view him as a Mikal Bridges where yes he’s a great player, but his stock rises significantly where he is the main option, but isn’t a guy you can build a team around. He’d be a great maybe second option, but probably as your 3rd or even 4th. Considering he’s on a bad team with the main role, he looks significantly better, but it’s not like he’s new in the league. The cavs and bulls decided to move on from him for what looks like Pennies on the dollar whereas if anybody trades for Lauri, they will give Utah dollars
4th option 🤔😂
@@jpheininen6465 lol yeah 3rd or 4th. Do you view him as a 2nd option on an actual contender?? I definitely don’t. And you forget he was quite literally a 3rd-4th option on the bulls and cavs and they still moved on from him. Hes just enjoying being the main option on a bad team
@@benwelch6554 in my opinion he is a good second option. It just tells me that you haven't followed Lauri much if you think he is a fourth option..he will be borderline all-star and that's never a fourth option in any team.
@@jpheininen6465 lol I’m a massive UofA fan and watched every single one of his college games and have followed him closely since. Also if you read my original comment, my friend is in Utah’s front office so I would say I follow Utah very closely as well. That’s your opinion, doesn’t mean my opinion of him not being a second option is because “I don’t follow him.” I love Lauri as a player, just my opinion that his stock has profited a lot off being the main guy on a bad team but obviously can still contribute to a contender in a big way. He’s not making a team a contender simply by adding him though imo. Only time will tell because it does seem he will be traded and you could 100% be correct🤷♂️
@@jpheininen6465 also borderline all star level I’d say Jrue Holiday, Porzingus, and Derrick White are there which is Celtics 3rd, 4th, and 5th option. Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Jr are borderline all stars and they are Denver’s 3rd and 4th option. Those are the last 2 championship teams🤷♂️
Spurs need to tank for 1 more year Flagg/wemby running this league
Yeah doubt they get flag or ace bailey but I like either Nolan traore or Hugo Gonzales
If Trae Young gets hurt again next year, the Spurs will have a great shot at Flagg
They arent getting flagg hes going to either Washington or Brooklyn
@@TimeMachine7773 no need for tanking then
@@classicslayer456 Once Kawhi can't play and an old Harden is by himself, Clippers gonna suck enough to give OKC the first overall pick
I just wouldnt do business with Ainge in general lol
Trade Danny. But I trust Coach Pop to make the right deal
No way Vassel is in the trade
I would kick myself as the Spurs if the only thing that stopped me from getting a frontcourt of Wemby and Lauri was Devin Vassel.
He's a good player, but having 2 mobile 7 footers at the 4 and 5, after you just drafted your PG of the future and signed CP3, is an opportunity you simply can't miss out on!
Vassell isn't going anywhere, he's only 23 yrs old, and had the best chemistry with wemby as the season progressed, not worth it for a potential one yr rental. Keldon, Tre plus 2-3 picks should be enough unless Ainge is greedy, then I wouldn't do it if I'm the spurs
I don't think you can say they drafted their PG of the future? ideally you want a top 15 pg with Wemby. We have no idea if that's what Stephon Castle becomes.
@Shortballa11 Well, they had 2 picks, drafted 2 guards, and moved the one that was projected to go higher. They clearly have a lot of faith in Castle, and even if they don't, they still acquired CP3 for this season, and can look to acquire another PG in the future if Castle doesn't work out. Moving Vassel allows you to give up less around the margins. Utah don't really need another PG anyway, so Spurs could likely keep Jones if they move like Vassel, Keldon, and a pick or 2.
Markkanen is 28 next year. HE IS AT HIS PEAK. He’s a win now guy. OKC can make the best offer and will get him if they want him.
Dawg if OKC get him it's over for the league. They gonna be too deep. Would be fun to watch tho
Presti should see this comment and basically get a free ticket to the finals against the celtics
That is the best fit, and they have more picks than god.
27
OKC doesn't need markenen.. they have good roster and good depth .. why they should give up on that?
It's funny how lauri is a perfect fit next to mobley in cle right now lol
I feel like it would be so fun to see lauri play either on the heat spurs warriors or cavs. Hes such an underrated player. 7 footer who can shoot lights out, handles the ball well, defends well, and is a vibe.
Please, no one give the jazz anything! Asking 16 firsts and sacrificing a dozen puppies isn't something that you should entertain.
😂😂
If anyone can handle trader Danny, its coach Pop
I remember when Bulls fans wanted to trade this dude. I was such a huge trade Lavine and keep Lauri guy at the time. I knew he was gonna be awesome. His confidence took a dive but he always had the potential to be an All Star and better. Glad he’s thriving outside of Chicago. Wish we had him with Coby White and Wendell still. Oh what could have been.
If you remember, most Bulls fans thought Jones are better player than Markannen after sign and trade!
I told my wife we should have traded Zach at that time. I literally told her yesterday that they will be getting more for him then we will for Zach
After playing for Finland at the World Cup, he returned completely different player, his confidence was through the roof
Thing is is that Utah doesn’t really wanna lose him and he like it in Utah, so if teams want him, they got a mortgage the farm to get him. Utah can take their time cause they don’t have to rush
as a jazz fan with our market being very small, i will not do the trade with the warriors because we only get 2 picks and 3 expiring contracts
I want Markkanen in San Antonio! Time for the Warriors to lay down.
There’s a 0% chance the Spurs are trading Vassell for an expiring Markkanen lmao
man wake up. just to make a fire video!
Danny isn't accepting anything less than 6 picks
Lauri is not getting traded, he is signing an extension next month when Utah can offer it for him then for 6 months he can't be traded. None of these teams are paying the 5 picks Utah want. Its easy to say give all your picks for a role player like Lauri, but there is no way anyone goes over 3 picks, which is what Utah just rejected for Lauri. Kings were trying real hard to get Lauri and made good offers but the Jazz want to get a Mikel Bridges type package and that isn't real value for Lauri (or for Mikel)
The bulls are clowns for trading him
He requested a trade from the bulls so the Cavs are the real clowns for trading him
Truly underutilized in Chicago!
@@JoshHartFitnessOfficialconsidering the cavs received Donovan Mitchell in return and just signed him to an extension I can’t understand how you could possibly call them clowns for that trade
@@rdubb6592 Cavs have literally no future and will never win anything Mitchell, especially after his huge extension
@@JoshHartFitnessOfficial btw if future is what your worried about Lauri ain’t the best option bluds already 27
Lauri and Wembi on the Spurs doing a high pick and roll would be hard to stop
Danny Ainge need FUTURE 1st round picks & tanking next season to try get Cooper Flagg
If im the GM of Golden State there’s no WAY I’m trading Jonathan Kuminga if it doesn’t net me back a top 10 player. Maybe I’m just a lot higher on Kuminga than most, but the second half of his 2024 season was fucking electric.
Johnson, 2025 SPURS pick (not Hawks), 2025 BULLS pick, 2027 SPURS pick, and if need be the 2028 BOSTON swap. That right there is what I'm willing to trade for Markannen.
Those HAWKS picks are way too valuable to trade away.
Keldon & 3/4 high draft picks for possibly 1 year of Lauri is not worth it
Lauri: 23/8/2 on 48% and 39% threes.
Devin: 20/4/4 on 47% and 37% threes.
Vassell is also 4 years younger and averages more blocks than 7 foot Lauri.
The jazz have so many draft picks already, I don't see them trade Lauri unless they get good players in return.
I don't see these teams giving up any player worth getting. Leaning towards keeping Lauri.
When was this video recorded? No mention of Buddy Hield at all.
It's kind of irrelevant to the discussion is it not? The discussion was over Lauri not the warriors
@offswitchtv109 When it comes to fit, assets, and mostly spacing, why would Buddy Hield not be mentioned? He said Warriors have a lack of spacing with Wiggins, Green, and Kuminga, and Curry being the exception. Great place to mention Buddy Hield.
Man if San Antonio don’t make that move they are crazy
Jazz are gonna want more than 2 picks, too. I don't think Warriors are gonna have enough even with JK. If Jazz trade LM, they're gonna go for Spurs or OKC because they can get 5 firsts, which I think is what the price for LM started at.
On top of that, Danny has said that he's not taking steps back in the rebuild process, so if he's trading him, it's to move forward the rebuild process.
Which is CRAZY! Thats more than teams give up for KD! That Rudy Gobert trade opened a flood gate I swear to god
@brickflair8926 Danny breaking the market and just trying to break it even more
@@brickflair8926 Mykal Bridges just happened too. But I think that's what makes Ainge great. He knows the desperation around the league. He just needs to tease them, flirt with them, and someone will give it up.
For real, picks are like currency now, that's how you get deals done. And late firsts aren't as good as early firsts, so more have to be traded.
@@shorewall yeah I get what your saying, just cup them a little bit ya know maybe tickle their balls and then make the deal
Lauri is a free agent next year, his value shouldn’t be that high
If you know he's gonna get traded and extended, then you don't have the luxury of waiting for FA.
@@shorewallIf anyone trades for him they’re gonna overpay and regret it.
I think teams specifically want to extend him. They would be trading for the right to have him for the next 5 years. He is really good. Great 3-point shooting, strong shot creators, with so much size are rare.
@@BBallRambling obviously teams would want to extend him, they wouldn’t trade for him otherwise.
Jazz are gonna extend him in August and the trade will be the exact same, but they wont be able to get him til February. So whats the difference?
Neither the Spurs nor the Warriors should trade for Lauri right now, especially since he is one year away from unrestricted free agency. He is 27; he should be sent to a contending team or a team on the rise, not a rebuilding team or a team who's stuck in purgatory.
The warriors better have kuminga on the no trade block! Lauri is not that good of an upgrade to trade kuminga/moody/2 picks. He’s not that much better then kuminga
LMAOOOOO
JK has peaked. Idk why people think he’s the next superstar. Hes an average athletic starter at best. Lauri is a legitimate all star.
@@NZbo-.-.-614 you’re trying to tell me a 21 year old who’s gotten better and more familiar with the system every year. Won’t continue to grow? His peak athleticism isn’t for another 4-8 years 😂 Lauri has peaked already. Kuminga will surpass Lauri’s skill. Look at what Lauri did in his early 20s. He was passed around like a pinball
@@jlzawitkowski even if you were correct. You wanna sit around and see IF Kuminga becomes a legitimate second option or you wanna trade for Lauri, who is a legitimate first option, that way 36 year old Curry has a chance to make one more run?
@@NZbo-.-.-614 yes because he already showed last year he can be a second option. So why trade a 2 for a 2 when ones only getting better every year and knows the system. Plus you’re giving up another young guy in moody who’s a good bench guy. Then also 2 future firsts (which if we traded for Lauri we’d suck then so they’d be lottery picks)
I really hope as a Milwaukee fan the bucks fly out of left field and trade for Lauri like they did for Dame. Potentially Pat C, Brooke Lopez, and Marjon Beauchamp
Trade Kuminga for Lauri would be a huge mistake... Kuminga is just 21 and his offensive production right now is almost the same as Lauri's production, with better defensive. (And Kuminga was sharing minutes and shots with veterans like Wiggins and Klay...). If the GSW want to space the floor, why not to trust in Moody or Quinones? Both can easily shoot 40% from 3...
Kuminga averaged 16-15 points lauri is closer to 25 points a game on better efficiency Kuminga is also a poor 3pt shooter, if y'all love your youth so much just trade steph and draymond for a good haul and move in that direction. Last season proved that none of those guys are ready to be no.2 option on a playoff team much less a championship one. I don't know what it is about large market fans and being so delusional about their young talent jeez.
As a person from the Bay, we’ve been saying this. Trade everyone not named Steph & Kuminga. Get the most we can for Wiggins, Draymond and Podz. Dunleavy has been making horrible decisions ever since he’s taken over.
@@samurai-jach Y'all can't give teams trash and expect gold in return. Wiggins is a negative asset under the new CBA so your going to be attaching something to him to get rid of him. Podz is good but he isn't the centre piece of any trade that moves the needle the same thing with the rest of your young talent. Y'all have 3 assets that teams really really want Steph, Kuminga and Picks. You can't hold on to your best assets and expect to get anywhere, at that point your just hoping that someone really wants to come to Golden State.
Facts
@@r.lr.l When Kuminga plays more than 30 minutes, his points and averages increase significantly and he almost matches the Lauri's production... You are not taking into account a simple fact: Kuminga and other youngs are playing under restrict minutes by coach's decision... Last regular season against Denver Nuggets, Kuminga made almost 20 points in 3 quarters and Kerr benched him... Lauri will be free agent next season. He is a very good player, but he is not Dirk or Oscar Schmidt or Kevin Durant. GSW need more defense and rim protection.
I feel like the extension "deadline" is a much bigger deal than just a throwaway mention at the end of the video and handicaps Utah more. It's also why either the Dubs and Spurs can sit and not have to offer their best deal since every day that ticks closer to that extension deadline, the less leverage Ainge has. It behooves Ainge to trade Lauri before it gets to that extension deadline because all Lauri has to do is wait until Aug 7 to sign his extension and then he can't be traded this season. Suddenly Utah has a floor raiser on their team signed long term that is untradeable and could put them outside the top 10. Then the Lauri chip is wasted. Lauri could also just not sign the extension at all and then he's playing on an expiring deal which won't get the same value either since Ainge would be desperate to move him to get something back.
Of course this is Ainge so he thinks he's slick enough to think he can fleece someone but I do feel like he's overplayed his hand.
As a Spurs fan, there is zero chance Vassell is traded in a move for Lauri. Keldon is more likely to be traded, but even then I think it’s unlikely at this point. Feels like the Spurs don’t want to rush too soon - one more year of development feels like the right call, especially with Lauri likely commanding a significant pay raise after this year
feel like the thunder definitely deserved mention in this video
That's the one I feel like is a perfect fit, and they have more picks than they need. But they signed I Hart, so I don't think they want to go for that anymore, unless they want to play Lauri at the 3 and 4.
No they don’t because okc not interested and never was interested
The Thunder won't have the money. Soon they'll have to extendn J will and Holgrem
@@shorewall i hope that presti doesn’t try to sell himself short on the opportunity to make that near perfect lineup bc of money reasons.
@@SamReynols that’s tru, but i feel like in order to maximize their window they have to strike fast and trade for him while he’s still on his super low deal.
Is a trade with the Houston Rockets possible ? With the extension of Green and Sengun comming soon, maybe Switch Green with lauri markanen is not a Bad Idea.
Hawks could be a destination too.
They got assets. Will probably send Capela away and replace him with Okungwu. Markkanen next to him is an intriguing front court.
Wemby and Markkanen on the same team would be nasty work.
Man that’s tuff. As a Spurs fan I definitely do not want to get rid of Vassel. However, something that my fellow Spurs fans need to think about is that Vassel in recent history has been a tad injury prone. This would be the ONLY reason I would second guess my choice for trading him. 🤔
If I’m the Spurs this is my best offer:
Keldon Johnson, SA 2025 1st, CHI 2025 1st, SA 2027 1st, BOS 2028 pick swap, SA 2028 1st, and MIN 2031 1st.
I’d prioritize keeping the ATL picks and the 2030 pick swaps they’ve accumulated bc chances are one of those teams is going to stink by then.
One more thing. Lauri can’t be traded for 6 months after he signs his extension. So if he doesn’t want to get traded he’ll wait until the end of the summer to sign. That way the 6 month period includes next seasons trade deadline.
I wish people would stop dragging San Antonio into all these trade rumors. The dumbest thing they can do right now is trade all these valuable pics, especially in the 2025 and 2026 drafts for a player who doesn't move the needle, like Laurie, and then have to turn around and give him a max contract. That is the stupidest way you can try to build a team right now, especially in the absolutely loaded Western Conference. They need to focus on getting Victor a second star in the draft over the next couple of years. Jordan and LeBron didn't even win their first championships till their late 20s. Everybody needs to chill out on thinking that Wemby has to be competing in year two.
Main teams that should trade for Markkanen:
1. GSW
2. Atlanta Hawks
3. Miami Heat
4. Orlando Magic
5. Detroit Pistons
GSW would be foolish to make that trade, Markkanen is good but he aint THAT good and his numbers can be attributed to being on a terrible team, he's literally NEVER played winning basketball his entire NBA career, and if traded it would be his 4th team as a young player with a good contract, that GSW package is a package for a superstar type player and Lauri Markkanen isn't a superstar, he's low-key barely a star, he was just a part of the Donovan Mitchell trade package a couple seasons ago that included 2 other lottery picks and multiple 1st as well, he's a good player but on a winning team at BEST he should be your 3rd option, a lot of guys look like stars on bad teams
What's all this gibberish about the Jazz "losing the pick to OKC"??
A) They already got value when they traded the pick.
B) It's top 10 protected anyway. Don't act like they're losing a chance at Cooper Flagg.
C) IF the Jazz stay out of the bottom 10, it'll be because some or all of the 7 (SEVEN!) first round picks they've scooped up in the last two years have worked out really well for them, with more 1st rounders than they need coming up. I don't think Ainge is as pressured in the Markonnen situation as some of y'all seem to think.
Denver needs to make this trade happen
Let me start by saying I’m 56 and a huge spurs fan for my whole life .
But the other spurs fans comments on here are ridiculous . Saying how trading Vassell is a mistake .
That shows two things.
1) you are simply thinking with your hearts and not your brain
2) you know nothing about basketball
Lauri is an all nba caliber player who fits a position and several needs that the spurs want .
Vassell will NEVER be half the player Lauri is . Never.
If you think so , you haven’t watched either player or you just don’t understand basketball .
Plus Pop just said tonight that Castle will play serious minutes , because of how advanced he is already .
What position do you think he’s gonna play?
Not gonna take CP3, Wemby or Barnes spots . He isn’t going to play the 4 or 5.
So that leaves Vassell as the 6th man.
A place he will flourish !
Starting five of CP3 , Castle , Barnes, Lauri and Wemby would put them as a contender .
You keep Vassell , they win35/40 games .
It’s insane to want to keep him lol
Whatever the spurs do , please trade keldon . Give him away for free for all I care .
They is now a report that Podziemski could be the key piece of a jazz trade.
POV: he still hasn’t been traded
Nah, Vassell is untouchable. They said it weeks ago. That's a wrong take. I don't think the Spurs trade for Markkanen. To bring in Paul and Barnes is for Mentorship. They want to develop and become a better team now.
The Jazz just cleared cap space.
Ainge said that he was going "big game hunting"
Markkanen stays with the Jazz.
Who joins him there?
So what you are saying is that the Bulls would be stupid to not trade Zach and Vuc right to try and keep their top 10 protected pick?
If Markannen teams up with Wemby that’s a scary sight.
Where is the best fit for Lauri? Is it on the spurs beside wemby? Or the thunder maybe starting beside Chet and bringing ihart off the bench all 3 getting 25 to 30 mins a game sometimes going big and moving Lauri to 3. Or is it a completely different team.
I personally would love the thunder. Just that big man rotation would be great defensively either way ihart and Chet great offensively with Chet and Lauri. Can go small with shai jdubb dort Caruso chet can go huge with shai jdubb lauri chet ihart can really play anyway they want.
I have been saying all along that OKC is the best fit for Lauri, with the most picks to offer Utah. But I think Ainge and Presti are the kinda GMs that want to swindle other teams, so I don't know if they can make a deal. :D
@shorewall lol I tend to agree with that. With that said the 25 draft is loaded and okc does own the jazz pick. Trading them that pick back plus maybe 3 additional picks one would think is worth 5 firsts from someone else. I'm not sure if they have the salaries to trade. But man a team of
Shai jdubb dort chet ihart Lauri Caruso is pretty insane. You most likely Cason Wallace and both williams off the bench and are you able to trade Wiggins or Joe who they just resigned or u gotta wait a yr or something?
Spurs. Thats a 2027 champ team. Trust.
@@MrPek-fe9fp maybe tho wemby imo would have to be better then shai and chet combined for that. Thunder just a much better team and they are as young or younger with more draft picks.
@@dustinsirois4788 yeah thunder young core is nuts. Chet was already top top defender
I don’t get why everyone wants the spurs to compete right now. Like let them build a roster with good talent first cause Lauri is 28 by the time Wemby is 25 he’ll be 32 and you want to trade Devin Vassel for that?
Warriors might make the desperate move to get Steph a last chance at a ring, but spurs ain’t giving up their assets for Lauri, no way
If Utah can get Kuminga & all available GSW firsts, Danny better take that... Keeping their top 10 pick in this year's deep draft us crucial. You get to tank, keep that pick, get 2 future picks, ANND you get to a potential All-Star forward. Even if the Spurs offer more picks, Vassell is a 6'5" SG. There are a lot more of those out there than a 6'8" combo forward.
Give up vassell with a really good contract seeing how good he is + picks for a player that is gonna be free agent... I rather be bad another year and have a chance for flagg than have Lauri for that price
The only reasonable trade is Keldon + wolves picks. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense. Ainge is overpricing a player they don't wanna extend to tank
Thank you. It doesn’t make sense with the last trades they made CP3 and Barnes. That tells me they want to be in the drafts for 2025-2026. Lauri wants to compete. I wouldn’t do it if I were the spurs.
That’s crazy to think that Chicago gave up markannen for literally nothing
Spurs will NEVER trade Atlanta picks!!!
If your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best players on a team are Vassell, Johnson, Sochan, you aren’t having a winning season.
If I'm the Spurs the inclusion of Vassell is a deal breaker.
I don’t see Presti making any more big moves. They ain’t getting their pick back. 😂
The warriors are not putting kuminga in this deal and anyone suggesting they should is being extremely shortsighted
Markkanen on the warriors would be a perfect replacement for Klay.
It makes sense to trade Markannen. You didn't get him to make this team better - you got him because he wasn't getting enough playing time in Cleveland so if you just gave him a starting role with enough minutes he's an obvious buy-low / sell-high.
I'm sorry, but trading a young star player so that you can suck and get a top 10 pick that MIGHT be a top 5 pick that MIGHT get you a young star is the DUMBEST motive to make a trade I've ever heard.
Devin Vassell Lol... no way,, Keldon J. and some picks not ATL 2025* Is time to out hustle Ainge
Lets put Devin Vassell value in context here. He signed a 5 year/140m deal, basically making slightly under 30m each year. Franz just signed a 220m deal for 5 years. Vassell is just as good if not better than Franz Wagner, they had the same stats last year and Vassell can actually shoot threes.
When you build Spurs trades, put Harrison Barnes and Zach Collins in there, because the Spurs are not trading these amazing contracts they sealed with super valuable players. Keldon Johnson makes half of what Vassell does, and averaged 22 ppg a couple of years ago. These are deals you get to keep, not to trade, because in the current free agency market players get paid far too much. Devin is not leaving the Spurs, he is untouchable and wont be moved no matter who is on the other side of the trade. His deal is too good to enable you to build a deep team around wemby
Very well said.
Why is it so important that Utah keep their 2025 pick? if it lands in the top 10, wont the warriors just get a 2026 unprotected pick? surely thats even worse to give up?
Two words: Cooper Flagg
Lauri to the Spurs would be sick, dont know if its worth it
The Jazz should trade Colin Sexton, Jordan Clarkson, Talen Horton-Tucker, Lauri Markkanen, John Collins, Walker Kessler, to the Blazers for Scoot Henderson, Dalano Banton, Anfernee Simmions, Matisse Thybulle, Jerami Grant, Robert Williams, DeAndre Ayton in that order........
If golden state does the deal that you're suggesting:then who ends up playing center? I understand that they can play small ball with Draymond as center but that's not going to work all the time. They need a true big to play center for a lot of minutes. Who would take that spot?😊
The Jazz almost traded up to get Castle, so I think he's the guy they'd want over Vassel
San Antonio shouldn’t try to trade Devin Vassell in the deal
Trading vassell and 3 firsts for lauri would maybe be the biggest fleece ainge has pulled off yet. I think lauri is a great player but vassell has potential to be just as good if not better, and he’s a lot younger with less injury risk in my opinion. It’s crazy to think that the spurs would be willing to trade vassell for him straight up, let alone adding multiple firsts.
Yeah trading Vassell is a sideway move for the spurs
Jazz fan and big fan of Lauri. Wish he was 3 or 4 years younger so that he fit the Jazz timeline, but that isn’t the case. Personally I think we need to trade him and get future building pieces. Not interested in trading with GSW. I think OKC and SA have the most to offer and I would listen to them.
If I’m Lauri Id rather play with Vick for 10 great years than steph for two good ones
Markkanen has some sneaky hops
We are keeping Vassell, and we aren’t giving up atlantas picks or our own for Lauri
I think the pelicans would be an interesting trade for him also. With losing JV we could definitely use another big
I want to think that Lauri will be trade but when ever I keep on search up woj and then Lauri has not been traded yet.
Spurs wont trade vassel and atlanta's 2025 FRP. Why would they do that?
Future Pacer™️ Lauri Markkanen
Markennen isn’t worth his trade market. He honestly is just getting good
Yea Kuminga better defensively and has a similar bag.
POP would rather trade the whole bench besides Jones and the rook, with those picks for Lauri
Here's what I don't get: yes, Kuminga, Wiggins and Green is an awkward fit offensively, but since when was offense the entire game? Lauri is a HORRIFYING fit defensively for the warriors. With Steph and Lauri in the starting lineup every night, the warriors have two defensive negatives in the starting lineup. That team isn't getting past the second round of the playoffs, absolute best case scenario. A trade for Lauri washes the rest of Steph's career. The only you get far in the playoffs with this version of Steph is to surround him with long, athletic, twitchy players who can defend at a high level and defend multiple positions at a high level, and hope they can develop enough offense to compete. That's players like Kuminga and Moody.
Trade? Ok. But I am not expecting San Antonio. He doesn't fit well at least timeline-wise. Maybe play him to trade him later with "more" value like OKC did in recent history. I don't see it happen. Spurs will want to develop for at least 1, probably 2 years. Look how they limited Wemby. "don't be too good"
#like last year Dame , but that was closer to August/September there's always that 2/3 trades or moves to prepare for the season teams trying to find there last pieces for best possible chance to make playoffs