How the China-Taiwan conflict could be devastating for the global economy | Business Beyond
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- For almost 75 years, the People's Republic of China and the island of Taiwan have co-existed in a state of tense limbo. China claims the island as part of its territory. But Taiwan is a functioning democracy and most people there want it to stay that way.
Cross-strait tensions have increased dramatically in recent years. The US, Taiwan's key strategic partner, says China wants to be ready to invade by 2027. Chinese President Xi Jinping has not ruled out the use of force.
Taiwan matters hugely to the global economy because of its complete dominance in the production of semiconductors. A Chinese blockade or invasion of Taiwan would shatter that all-important sector and as a result would wreak havoc on the economies of China, Taiwan and the wider world.
In this video, we look in detail at what is the most urgent threat to the global economy - and ask if anything can be done to avert catastrophe.
#china #taiwan #globaleconomy
00:00 Introduction
02:01 Taiwan-China, a brief history
05:25 Connected Economies
06:45 The Silicon Shield
10:08 Blockade, Invasion or Status Quo?
14:47 Shuttering The World’s Factory
17:17 The view from Beijing
19:24 Conclusion
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Love Tiwan from china no war no hate❤
Big difference is autocracy vs democracy...
@@Nationfirstalwaysfirst_IND In the end it's all the same for the everyday person.
@@Izquierda This is absolutely not true, I can attest to this.
@@georgeholloway3981 What was your experience like? In which places have you lived and for how long?
@@georgeholloway3981 ngl I’m Chinese and been to Taiwan and Hong Kong I’ve seen a lot, mainland China although crowded has honestly pretty good living conditions also you CAN speak out against the government from what I’ve seen so far. Btw I don’t think it’s even that bad in china from what I’ve experienced I’ve also been really free other from seeing cameras everywhere. Taiwan is also very good its very chill there and when I went there even as a Chinese I was treated very well so yeah. The experience I had in both countries is very good honestly. (I now live in Australia 🇦🇺)
Universal human rights.
Power to the people.
What are those? They seem to be different all over and applied arbitrarily to different people depending on bias'
@@WiseOwl_1408 all of your other comments support Russia, so I'm sure you understand what we're talking about and are just playing dumb.
@@WiseOwl_1408 Right to self determination? pretty obvious really pal.
Power to the people must include wisdom.
@John Grey lol. Delusions of people who believe the world is going to come to them. Nothing of what you dream about will ever materialize. People like you make this planet just dumber and lazier
Gentle correction to one of the speakers (12:00).
Although Taiwan is Small, with agriculture technology, Taiwan produces large amount of rice and farm produces.
If you go to Taiwan, you’re in the market place, you will find majority of fruits, vegetables, and rice are Taiwanese grown.
They heavily rely on fuel, but not necessarily ‘a good chunk of their food’.
Why are americans always scared lol
hope no war between China and taiwan. one ukranian war had made global economy bad...2 wars will make global recession. anyway, if war is needed, hope US can directly involve so can counter china faster no prolonged proxy war
Exactly my thoughts too. No war but be prepared, quick reaction to counter aggression, don't prolong ...
@@georgekung2003utubemost likely US will be involved because they are itching to destroy china and writeoff their huge debt as war compensation 😅
@@hzlh2254 Are u deluded? Why are the Chinese so scare??? Didn't they challenged the Philippines everyday but stopped the moment American declared they will defend Philippines? Why can't China get along with any neighbour?
For those who lack historical knowledge the essence is (hypothetical)
1. After American civil war the Confederates won and Union government went to Hawaii (hypothetical)
2. Britain (superpower at that time) recognizes the authority of Confederate America but through "strategic ambiguity" protects Hawaii in case of an attack.
这就是真相😂
and?
Actually, "strategic ambiguity" _was_ the way for many years, until the super power now started to become not so ambiguous. That's when the real tension started.
Then Hawaii claims independence by the Hawaii people, and the US accepts it.
Best analogy I have seen about this conflict.
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Taiwan is a great example of what the PRC could have been under a democratic government.
And that's why Taiwan is a threat to the Chinese communist government!
Democratic like ill-crane? 😅
lol, you know taiwan's salary was on a decline for 30 years? TSMC was fully funded by KMT under authoritarian, but sold 90% of the shares to wallsreet after becaming a democratic government? They are on a shape decline, 10% of their population moved to the mainland, the rest became more and more cracy about politics.
@@soreeyezill-crane?
If China was democratic it wouldn’t be able to achieve superpower status under 40 years and develop infrastructure so quickly. In a democratic country everyone has their own opinion and demands, you’ll never get things done. Just look at India, largest democratic in the world yet it’s far behind that of China for many decades.
But sanctioning China wouldnt be as easy as sanctioning Russia because China is the worlds biggest manufacturer and exporter of goods. So it would be pretty much impossible for most countries ti sanction China without severly damaging themselves.
Too big to fail. It's a good move.
The US build China and sold us out to China centuries ago. Now that China has become a global power the US is jealous and want to dominate China . However it’s to late China is a beast now !
China knows America does not like making anything anymore. We depend on Cheap labor and have become inefficient. China knows this
We have not won a war since World War 2 I truly believe if we take China lightly or if Japan or Australia or England don’t come through with us . We done !
Yet, China is a country that’s very reliant on imports, much more than Russia. So if a sanction does happen, it will be very effective.
This is terrifying! It means we're finally going to have to learn to get along with each other!!
Tell that to chaina
Sure, after the reunification
@@_Twink tell that to America, they’re the ones preventing the Chinese reunification.
@@annan7728 nonsense. Tell chinese to move out of west taiwan if thats the case!
@@annan7728 china has been a walking zombie since 1940 with the real spirit and culture moving to Taiwan...
Technically PRC is breakaway and not ROC cause PRC never controlled Taiwan but ROC was the sole government of china
Wrong. ROC fled the civil war while they lost the support of the majority of China and thus PRC became the legal government of China eventually. It was an unfinished civil war, both mainland and Taiwan could negotiate for a mutual settlement yet the west and the selfish DPP party didn't give it a chance.
This. Mao overthrew Democracy during a vulnerable phase of China’s past, claiming that the ROC was responsible for all their problems. Then he immediately let millions starve saying “it’s better to let half the country die so the rest can eat their fill.” Democracy is evil? Riiiigghhtt….
Very true but never mentioned. There are no internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is Part of China.
Taiwan was not even included into the PRC constitution until 1978.
So technically, the Chinese civil war hasn’t ended yet.
then why your own country recognize prc but not ROC as sole goverment of china ?
It’s not about democracy it’s about Sovereignty
Thank you for spending the time to create and share this content awareness
Great video!
Very nice report Arthur, good job!
Can you see china is following the footstep of imperial japan I think they have forgot how imperial Japan ended
@@user-ul3hk6hf2e well if you forgot when Japan invaded china. China had greater population than japan. Didn't they surrendered in front of japan. 2nd nuke war is highly hypothetical
@@amanverma7033 They never surrendered. Its not like India which was colonized for 150 years.
@@user-ul3hk6hf2e May be you mo-ron forget that Taiwan is an island. Is 1.4 billion Chinese going to swim to Taiwan? Is China going to NUKE Taiwan so no one can live there for a 1000 years? You're not too bright, are you?
@@user-ul3hk6hf2e russia has like 100 million more people then Ukraine and yet here we are. Population size isn't everything and China has little real world experience. As for nukes, they are only defensive. Any first use has massive repercussions
@@user-ul3hk6hf2e How many Russians did it took to conquer Outer Manchuria in 1858?
I am a proud and lonely Taiwan Independenceist
Fight for the last great nation(Taiwan) in the world that has never been born whose birth will surpass the difficulties of all countries pursuing independence
That would be Great beyond the world has never seen (Because Taiwan's independence will cause WW III)
But we keep going no matter how strong the storm ahead
SEND THE WORLD FAR AND WIDE~~~
Long live for Taiwan Independent~!!!!!!!
Our flag is a blue and white cross on a green background
The green background is our land
The white cross represents peace and equality
The blue cross represents freedom and democracy
The shape of the cross represents junction land
Not yet. Wait till Taiwan can really fend for itself from China (or better if China CCP regime collapsed and replaced with a friendly one) without any outside help. Good cause I agree but time is not right yet
@@MH-pz8wf Maybe Taiwan should get a hand full of nukes... you know, like how China and Russia helped North Korea to obtain theirs! Then Taiwan can really fend for itself.
@@covertpuppytwo3857 Unfortunately, the US had prevented this from happening in Taiwan. Unlike Japan and N. Korea, Taiwan, giving up Nukes, does not gain the promise from the US to defend their countries if attacked
@@MH-pz8wf True, the US did stop Taiwan from creating their own nukes... but nothing is stopping the West from supplying Taiwan a few nukes on HYPSONIC CRUISE MISSILES capable of leveling Beijing. They just need to do it before announcing it! And you're right, the US didn't promise Taiwan it would come to its defense if China invades.... though Biden made it crystal clear he would!!!!
bring your keyboard to frontline, kid
i dont think china really want to go on a fight, they will be most affected
On May 9, on one side a building was damaged, while on the other side, 47 Pakistanis were martyred, hundreds were arrested, and injured!
People were beaten and carried away, and now actions are being taken under the unconstitutional army act!
But what was done for the 47 lives? No ceremony, no inheritance, their lives have no value??
Here, buildings are important, but not the lives of the people!!
This is Pakistan....!!!
US want war ,,the can sell weapons
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships.
We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Your culture will adapt to service us.
Resistance is futile."
Very good show, love the presenter!!!
The only thing that can trigger the war is the leader of the Taiwan area announcing Taiwan is independent as a country, but no war otherwise .since the one-China policy is broken.
For semiconductors, we are developing and confident in our semiconductor industry-no need to kill people from the same race.
i know right, if you have to kill people, it'd have to be of different race.
Hahaha, say that to millions killed( starved to death) during Great Leap Forward, or during cultural revolution; and many many times in Chinese history. Did you take any history lesson in school?
All people are same! So we should be under China as per your logic.
Well that’s not what the government of China is saying. They’re saying that eventually they’ll have to invade, regardless of whether or not the status quo is maintained.
A super important report. Thank you for clearly outlining the issues.
they are symptoms of a failing dollar, the petrodollar and liberal world order is what is going to destroy the economies
@jacksmith6015 unless your Taiwanese lol they may be Chinese but they live a little better
@jacksmith6015 Taiwanese live better lives on average
I appreciate this honest media.
"each of the 15 billions or so transistors will have the size of a .... "
can someone fill up the last word, please? i can't udnerstand/identify it at 09:06
In 2014 nobody think that the lost of Crimea to Russia will cause a catastrophe, and here we have an Ukraine war. Lets not make the same mistake on Taiwan.
Over simplification. Wasn't Ukraine building up militarily to take Crimea back since 2014?
@@aberba NO, Ukraine was more concerned about Russia invading their ENTIRE NATION after Russia illegally invaded and annexed Crimea... AND RIGHTFULLY SO!
@@covertpuppytwo3857 Crimeans do not want to stay in Ukraine. In addition, Russia did not invade Crimea. If Russia invaded Crimea, why did Ukraine give up Crimea without firing a single shot?
@@kevinrich5222 Do you really believe the lies you told?
I'm not entirely sure Xi Jinping cares about of this. He comes across as someone who is willing to take Taiwan by force if he feels it's necessary, regardless of the consequences.
Yeah, if you know Xi's childhood, he's definitely the type to just do whatever he wants.
You should worry that Biden is willing to support Taiwan independence without thinking about the consequences😂
He kicked and broke his father’s ribs just to show he is following Mao’s commend. What a son.
Xi is exactly like Putin….too dumb to recognize the peril of bullying 🇺🇸 😂😂😂
@@boBo-gn9rt Not really worried, China does not have the muscle to go toe to toe with the US, let alone most of the nations in the pacific combined, hence all the saber rattling and not much else by china.
narration job very well done, mr sullivan :)
Nice video! Good journalism
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we have to support Taiwan
support what？ a mouth？
Main land china belong to tiwan n Tiwan is sovereign country... free Tibbat.
@@Nationfirstalwaysfirst_IND 哪个贫民窟英语？😅
Why? for humanity? if so, please stop guns and drugs abuse in US first...guess those issues are more relevant to you and your life.
欢迎啊，大家压上所有的家当来一场❤
3:11 actually its 13 countries recognize Taipei government ，which official name is republic of China and declared mainland China ，taiwan，south china sea ，republic of Mongol as its sovereign territories ，is the only legal represent of China ，DW is professional as usual
BTW nobody recognize taiwan as a independence nation because :1. it's violated international law 2. PRC ，the second powerful nation in the world will declare war with you ，perhaps German should give it a try for prove its democracy value
@@vidiomoonn578 oh ，if you ever studied little bit Taiwan‘s history you‘d know that the best thing Taiwanese good at is knee to another ruler ，btw ，we‘ll make you guys watch we take it back by force ， erase any western influence in there，then make it become a whole new place in 20 years ， and there is nothing you can do about it
@@vidiomoonn578 想独立主要的原因根本不是民主。即使中国是多党制民主体制，台湾也不会想回归的。台湾人承认吗？民主只是个反抗的牌面。
oh no we cant buy our spoiled kids no cheap plastic toys for christmas and i cant switch out my smartphone every year. what a tragedy😢
This is an excellent episode!!!
Taiwan will never fall.
you mean Republic of CHINA?
@@pik6921 Lol, too many lies to even respond to. Shoo, fly. Go spread your crazy political lies on the Chinese internet, like everyone else does since they have no choice. It sounds fun. You can all say the same thing over and over, but do it over there.
You’re not going to tell the west what to do
Haven’t you worked that out yet
We will do whatever we want
@@pik6921 Your reply is indicative of the problem. The initial commenter didn't mention the West: only Taiwan.
Taiwan wants sovereignty-freedom from fear of oppression and freedom from fear of obliteration. Get real.
Taiwan will prevail at the end, evil CCP will fall, Taiwan already independence.
Affected by the US ban, China's semiconductor imports in the first four months decreased by 25% annually.
It's time to de-risk made in US.
The major reason is not US ban, but China produced much more substitute chips, which is why Taiwan and South Korea exported much less chips to China.
Thanks to the ban, now Chinese semiconductor manufacturers could thrive without competitors in the world's largetst market. They would be growing into the best and largest soon.
China's bottom chip factory was on the verge of closing down, gained a new lease of life under Trump's trade war sanctions, and then the factory got the money to start making high-end chips. So the Chinese love Trump😂
@@Wing-ix6wj😂😂😂Those chip factories can not sell chips are nearly closed down, as a result of Trump's trade war made chip prices rise, and now they have begun to produce high-end chips to become large enterprises.
Great job
Very good job with this video.
It could also be devastating to Taiwan... 😕
And to China... ie,Taiwan does have a large number of missiles capable of destroying China's 3 gorge dams if invaded.
@@covertpuppytwo3857 china military budget is 23 times bigger thAN taiwan which means they have way more anti missiles than all tw missiles combined. 23 anti missiles versus 1 taiwan missile.good luck daydreaming
Also to the world, it would take 20 years to get back on track
If President Tsai and Joe continue to push die-wan-lung for wars.
Besides the chips, a lot of people would brutally die in an unnecessary war, it would be terrible like Ukraine.
I support taiwan democracy and independence 🇼🇸
bring your keyboard to frontline, boy
World must recognise Tiwan as sovereign country... and reject one china principal... China invaded Tibbat, xingjyang n inner Mongolia.
China will be so punished if they attack Taiwan.
When I asked the electronics store if they had a non-Chinese alternative. They replied that they had sold out of that product. He went on to say that it had become a common question from people.
So people are clearly trying to find alternatives to made in China.
And who's going to punish China exactly 😂. You think they haven't planned this. China has enough support from the rest of the world to split the world into East and West, cutoff western influence on the east (a multi-polar world)
Invading Taiwan will be bad for the world, but catastrophic for China.
It's about f-ing time. China wasn't ready for capitalism and took advantage of their newfound wealth.
I went looking around for Chinese tea, not from China. It was hard too!
it will be the end of CCP.
Thank you!
Jalur LCS/laut china selatan/champa dinasty adalah jalur purba atau old tyrenia
It only takes one ROGUE Taiwanese Submarine to wreak havoc on Chinese Shipping for years, if it has the support from its neighbors. China would go bankrupt before the Silk-road Initiative was ever completed.
It's already bankrupt, they can't afford medical and retirement welfare. People had no where to complain to because they are silenced.
1 Regional government are bankrupt, central only take and never give or help solve their prob.
2 Housing developers are goner, they are not allow to reduce prices to get rid of excess properties.
3 People are bankrupt, 3 generations' of savings gone into the deposits of houses that will never be completed while they lost their jobs and have to continue to pay their mortgages for their entire life.
4 Those who lost their jobs and unable to pay their mortgages will lead to bank collapses and that will in turn lead to the entire financial system collapse.
5 the aging population already looked scary even though it barely started.
Haha so funny 😁
Just reminding everyone that Taiwan is a free, democratic, and independent country! Don't forget to tune into China Uncensored! 😊❤🇹🇼
🤡
Until 2049. Set your alarm clock.
When free people lost the civil war in China, Shek took his followers to Taiwan as part of the end of war deal. Some of us know this, but more people have to be reminded. The US will fight for Taiwanese freedom. God Bless.🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@maineusaMax good luck to you
It's a province, not a independent country
Imagine the manufacturing aspect of the global economy shuting down
Attack Taiwan in the morning, and all Chinese can have a BBQ Party in Taiwan in the evening.
Relax, China is deeply dependent on western money. Don’t show any weakness when dealing with autocrats.
Relax, the west is deeply dependant on China manufacturing.
LMFAO, which Country had to Raise the Debt Ceiling, because their Economy cannot pay their Government Debts, which means they will Print more Money, Based on Nothing!!!
Four of the top five commercial banks in the world are Chinese, and they are not short of money😂
Long live Taiwan 🇹🇼❤️❤️
LOL
Long live Taiwan Province of China
9:30 retain edge
10:00 we are dependent on the business perspective on supply chain
Good topic
I'm glad that the west has woken up to this stupidly high dependence on chips produced by one company and country in the world. More could've been done still and earlier. I think both the US and the EU need to massively subsidize their own chip manufacturers, if needed, to get the advanced chip production lines and processes going.
We're talking about such a critical commodity that things just can not continue like this. I mean, the EU has wasted billions on much, much more useless endeavors like the Covid recovery fund and such. Money has been poured into totally trivial projects, but something like this has been overlooked? I really question the intelligence of our leadership here.
Our allies South Korea and Japan should also step up their chip manufacturing and expand. Yes, the US and EU needs to step it up as well.
@@kennychad2821 Most of the products produced by Japan and SK go through the South China Sea, it is not that easy.
EU and US are in a pretty bad economic slow down, sure they can give incentives to this new industry, but it is not that trivial to do so, it is not like the US global economic hegemony after WW2
The world would probably look to closer and frindlier countries like India, Mexico, Brazil and even Argentina
The US has already funded several corporate controlled new manufacturing plants that are being built within the US. It will be another 3-4+ years, after that Taiwan is history.
IIRC the world's largest manufacturer of the most sophisticated microchips is ASML (a Phillips offshoot, I gather) in the Netherlands.
Furthermore, the machinery tmc use are build in holland, i don't understand how no one in the EU political sphere has never proposed a cooperative program over chip production.
Instead we let China monopolize the export of raw material from African countries. China don't have the knowledge and the skill required to build the newest chips at the same time China was able to rise up their production of 30% in the last decade while in the west we managed to rise an 10% on global production.
Good insight into the problem. I have lived and worked (in the SemiCon industry in both Countries) and been based where AMD make their high-end μProcessors for 23 years now. It probably depends on what side of the bed that Xi Jin Ping gets out each day and I'm concerned. Equally, what happens as time goes by and what Xi Jin Ping decides thinks he wants his epitaph to be.
The large consensus of Chinese engineers with whom I worked for a year in the various Shanghai Fabs was to take Taiwan back into Mainland control, without (seemingly) what the consequences might be. That worried me then and still worries me now.
Cuz most Chinese people still view it as a unsolved problem stemming from the Chinese civil war back in 1940s.
The consensus of Chinese engineers comes from the education that has been brainwashed since childhood (Taiwan is an integral part of China)
Paper tigers are called paper tigers for a reason, they are afraid of fire. They have been harassing Philippines sea for a long time until a subtle warning from America recently. Hopefully, lessons are drawn from the recent disintegration from the West, North Asia and the war in Ukraine. Didn't they want to boycott Micron just a few days ago but after the other suppliers do not want to give them the chips they needed, they are eating their words, inviting Micron back to China? Those Chinese engineers you worked with are brainwashed, they do not have access to the truth. Personally, it breaks my heart to see the changes in HK, hopefully, TW doesn't have to suffer the same fate.
Hopefully our lawmakers don't neutur our troops right after they start a war and really go into it trying to win...
@@willyang4487 Which is ridiculous, because Taiwanese people don't want them there. Taiwanese people who have lived there for generations are the only ones who can make decision what to do with their land and lives. Not USA, not China, nobody else. Chinese people want to invade, kill millions and take their land. If China does that, it has to be destroyed.
Some of the critical technology should shift to other countries.
May as well get used to the idea that its going to happen and prepare for it. The date of 2027 is interesting.
The everyday taiwanese just go on with life, it's been in this situation since Taiwan was developed. Taiwanese entertainiers doesn't post any political views on social media. We the western media are the one monitoring the situation. If I am Taiwanese, I'll go on with life also, because it's too depressing to think about a giant bully nextdoor on daily basis 😢
事實上中國大陸人，也是每天平凡的生活。根本沒有想過會有戰爭發生。(台灣與大陸都是中華民族：我們是一家人)所以你不要擔心。你個撲街😊
@@Tian9165 Ok, good luck keeping the nationalists in check. Those people seem to live about a century ago.
Well let us respect and aware of history. Because without consider history equally live without ethics and respect
Taiwan is part of china. It always will be. There's no such a thing of Taiwanese. They are Chinese who born n grew up in Taiwan island
@@yogiahmad328 Austria and Germany are independent counties. There are plenty of English, French, Spanish speaking countries.
All guns point to China, when everyone misses out on the real trouble makers.
Let's hope the EU is wise enough to heavily invest in their militaries right now. Once China invades Taiwan, weapons will flow unbounded in the Russia direction.
The west is drumming up war for China. They even predict China will invade Taiwan in 2027.
@jackbolder5734.such an illogical argument. Russian arms are better than Chinese arms.
heavily invest= buy more weapons from US. or let biden install nuclear in front of your door? you are pretty smart and wise. as long as being the US puppies, you are safe....
@@besarlim781not if they exhaust their arms and are sending T-34s to the frontline. There’s a funny saying - russia has a large, modern army, but the modern part is not large and the large part is not modern.
Hopefully we're past the Anne has two dad's phase...
3:21 so don't change anything
None of these companies can do anything at all without ASML's machines
And ASML can't do a lot without the companies producing the semiconductors. It is a symbiotic relationship where TSMC is the most important one.
Remember the US ban advanced chips to China. Any semiconductor crisis will affect the western countries more since they are the ones who currently using the advanced chips. Think about Tesla, 3nm chips in iPhone and android phones, AI chips in Nvidia, Microsoft chat GPT chips, etc. China has SMIC and other smaller companies that make matured chips.
Taiwan is quite simply and quite obviously a de facto independent country. It must be defended for the sake of basic morality.
Not for one single moment, at any point in time, ever, has the CCP held even a single iota of authority over the island of Taiwan; this is an indisputable *fact.* This simple fact is the entire crux of the matter. Taiwan has exercised the *literal definition of sovereignty* over the island for the better part of a century. This is an inarguable, demonstrable fact, and it really is that simple.
@@yayhandles 你说CPC从来没有治理过台湾岛，但中国治理过台湾岛呀，中国拥有台湾岛的主权。PRC和ROC这两个政权处于中国的内战，争夺整个中国的治权。
而在联合国层级上，PRC已经取得了中国的代表权，（之前是POC代表中国）象征着CPC取得了中国的主权。
@@yayhandles when we talk about the sovereignty, it’s not controlled by one single party.if it is,how do u explain the two parties in the US? When the democrats get into power,the republicans just don’t have the sovereignty? Things don’t work out like that. The sovereignty belongs to the people lived in the land,and people in taiwan are a part of the people from qing or ming dynasty hundreds years ago,so actually they are exactly the same from the people in the mainland,and share the same culture, many of the people in taiwan have a same ancestor with the people in the mainland. So how can u tell the world that China isn’t part of China since it has been a part of it in the history for hundreds years?
@@user-hm4ov3pt5t Taiwan is not part of China any more than Sri Lanka is part of India. Taiwan is completely separate from China in every way possible.
Taiwan is china
lets hope for the best only time will tell..
After unification,Tmsc could continue biz of semiconductor more stable
NEVER - put a bear (Winnie) in charge to do a man's job. Seriously. This is what happens.
ill-crane putting a former comedian to run the country, and what happened?
You mean demented braydon
Never put G7 leaders to do a man job. Seriously, opinion poll tells us they score below 50% popularity, many even below 30%. This is what happens when incompetent leaders can't handle a man job.
@@soreeyez Actually he has proven to be an amazing leader, and has Russia on the ropes, something nobody ever imagined, your point therefore is kind of self defeating.
Kudos to Taiwan who created a monopoly on chips. No country would have "truly" cared for it without its silicon shield 🛡️
More like usa made sure taiwan had this advantage.if not some country in Europe could also be making chips like taiwan
@@1pasupaty good point. I don't think they had foreseen this situation looking @ the history n the time this industry began to blossom.
Plus Taiwan has the brain power to develop these chips which r truly hard to make, which explains y china which leads manufacturing in most products, but couldn't compete @ the high end of chip manufacturing with Taiwan, thus far.
Many countries tried to compete with Taiwan, like neighboring countries ike Singapore but couldn't.
@@1pasupatyEurope doesn't have the manpower or cheap labour US need to manufacture stuff for them that's why US relied on Asia
American armed industry need cheap parts from Asia to profit from.
Kudos to Taiwan for having advanced chips? It is a problem actually. In a war with China, the US would obliterate all the chip plants first.
South Korea can supply chips! It's got enough production capacities. Micron in US can add more. TSMC produces most because big IT companies make contracts with it, not with other alternatives. In addition, Japan and US begin to build fabs.
Truth 👍 also, it is widely said that AI is posing more threat than these communism&nuke situations so we need to slow down tech development
that's not the focus here. it's all about technological competition. about 3-4 years ago, the secretary of commerce said the US needed to work with europe to thwart china's technological advancement because they were growing fast and fear that the west could fall behind. at the time they didn't specify semiconductors so this taiwan issue isn't solely just about upholding democracy. anyone country can take china's place in chip making. what the west fears is china's potential. you folks gotta look further than just semiconductors..
War between these nations would be absolutely devastating for Australia economically.
I worry about my economy.
Join the club pal
Taiwan is important, but this video tries to make it sound like microchips wouldn't exist without Taiwan. Taiwan doesn't do any of the R&D, the machines that manufacture the most advanced chips are made in the Netherlands. The machines that make the other chips are made by Intel in the United States and two different electronics firms in Japan. So if the machinery in Taiwan was unavailable, it would be extremely expensive, but the manufacturing could pop up elsewhere given enough time.
@@serriajohn If you are not a bot, then who ever taught you English owes you a refund.
No R&D😂
Are you sure ? Have you ever heard about TSMC?
@@A5a5a5aooo5oo Yeah, they do contract work. Other companies design chips, then TSMC prints them on machines they that came from ACL in the Netherlands. What TSMC does is extremely technical and valuable, but it is not irreplaceable.
@@Ffourteen That is why both Japan and China are exploring alternatives to ASMLs machines which are the real key technology.
夸大其说😀，只是先进制程而已，28奈米就对汽车手机电脑这些毫无影响，美国韩国中国都能生产
Now I understand the real reason what is behind BRICS in regards to sanctions
As long if I can buy a bag of Cheetos I’m good.
If china invaded Taiwan india must block malacca strait and if possible starts the liberation of tibet and Askai chin
Believe me, India dare not and does not have the strength to do so
Hi waronger!!!
😂 Try it. You know where the majority of India’s water sources are from ? Yea the Himalayas inside China’s territory. China can stop the water flow down to India. You guys would die of thirst before even blocking Malacca.
In Myanmar Too 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
long live independent khalistan, Kashmir, Nagaland, Manipur, and South India
Taiwan don't fight a war you will lose and totally destroy your country,be smart make money and you can migrate to any country in the world, thats the only move you can make beside accept your fate and be chinese
Winnie the Pooh doesn't care
Yup 😱
Across generations, the intellect and capabilities of the human mind surpass military might. Regrettably, military power often takes precedence in the short term, leading to devastating consequences. Despite our relatively brief history on this precious planet, it has been marked by extensive violence. It is astonishing to consider how little we have truly learned, especially when we find ourselves closer than ever to the brink of extinction.
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One other weakness that Taiwan has is Taiwan's energy infrastructure, it's an island, it's not like Germany that you guys can buy them from France (i.e. your grid is not isolated). And they (Taiwan's power plants) are also near saturation. All China needed to do is to get rid of those first, then trying to control their airspace accompanying with blockade around the island. So US must react pretty fast if it wishes to act. Additionally China is also very good with hacking.
But any sort of provocation will probably spark a global blockade. I highly doubt China will do anything rash. Last time the US flew its aircraft 41 NM away from China's coast and China did nothing, which shows China can only give last warning.
that is why Ukraine war happened
French nuclear stations were offline due to maintenance for aging, they'll probably rebound this year. In the meantime, Macron announced a plan to build another 6-8 nuclear reactors.
Taiwan is a Province China's 🇨🇳 🦾
You have never stepped foot in Taiwan a day in your life, correct?
I'm willing to go further and say you don't even know a single person in your life, who has stepped foot in Taiwan.
My guess is you have never been far from where you were born, is that correct?
Blockade around the "world"? You mean the "West"?
Not having at least 1 factory producing less than 10nm chip in EU, as a backup, is suicidal.
Eaxctly. EU has wasted billions into trivial projects, but something as critical as this has been totally overlooked? EU chipmakers need to be subsidized if need be to get things set up.
@@mutkaluikkunen3926 agreed or subsidizing or against whatever offset such as weapons deal to have TSMC or its South Korean competitor setting up such factory in EU.
Or In other words, keep your old smartphones, you might need them again one day 😆
There are fabs with EUV tech popping up in the US, and China. Would love to see a vid on how the commercialization of those processes are going in each country, as success of commercialized advanced semi conductors on US or Chinese soil greatly shifts the dynamics covered in this report
There is a export ban for exporting EUV tech to China. China don't have access to those machines.
China for sure already have tons of spies and assets within TSMC. Why can't China catch-up with Taiwan on semiconductor fab?
There is a good series of videos made by Asianometry on TH-cam. Every aspect of supply chains, material sciences, politics and fabbing of microchips is covered in good detail. Between all his video, it's quite in depth and detailed without overwhelming the viewer.
Europe and the United states makes and designs the machine that makes TSMC manufacture the high tech semiconductors. It's not like China adds anything to that equations, just that they used to import most of the production for it to be used to make other machines or devices and export them. Many people are loosing their jobs in China do to this and China has lots of people.. All this problem because of one man that will not let go of power Xi Jinping. That's the problem with Communism or anarchist.
Please understand another thing, where the prime material comes from, I can tell you it's not from China.
China does not have EUV machines. Intel has had them for 5 years. But Intel's engineers and technicians dont' know how to use them. Intel hopes to mass produce 7nm chips later in 2023. Intel is 3 generations behind TSMC and Samsung. TSMC and Samsung were going to build 5nm fabs in the US with the help of billion dollar subsidies from the Chips act. However the conditions for receiving the subsidies were only made clear recently and both TSMC and Samsung will not be applying for the subsidies. (requires divulging Trade secrets and also requires the companies not to invest in China.)
🤔💭🌍 It's fascinating to hear about your personal experiences in the semiconductor industry and your concerns regarding the China-Taiwan conflict. The geopolitical situation between China and Taiwan is indeed complex and has significant implications for the global economy. It's crucial to carefully consider the potential consequences and outcomes as decisions are made. The stability and cooperation between nations are vital for ensuring a prosperous and interconnected world. Let's hope for peaceful resolutions and diplomatic efforts to address these concerns. 🙏🌏🤝
Yes lets pray together.
Stability and cooperation is important absolutely. but the Democratic countries of the word cant turn a blind eye to the Atrocities of Dicatorships in the name of Economic gains and interconnections.
@@Infernal_Elf OK 50 Cent Are you in the Shanghai Office?
@@kc10man no i dont work in media im just very intrested in Politics and history
@@Infernal_Elf Sir, I think if I lived in the same country as you, I would have the same opinion as you, but every country controls the media to give us the information they want us to get, so your perception may be partial, if you are interested, field study may change your opinion
You would think corporation would worry enough to act. They just hope.
CHINA 🇨🇳 IS SINGING THE SAME TUNE
AS RUSSIA 🇷🇺 !
IM SURE EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT !
Most countries don't recognise Taiwan because of fear. China doesn't invade Taiwan because of fear of losing. If World diverts semiconductor production to other countries and recognise Taiwan as an independent country things will change for better.
So true: it's always difficult to stand up to bullies/ criminals as you put yourself in danger of an escalated attack.
The only way is to just do it, courage/ adrenalin are powerful.
Together we can be Strom and prevail in the fight to maintain our sovereignty and freedom.
its actually greed. The CCP promises concessions and sweeter trade deals to those that recognize the CCP led China as the "true China". Basically the CCP has effectively weaponized their economy and is able to use it in any way they see fit: as a negotiation tool, as a means of coercion, as a means of bribery or temptation (many salivate at gaining access to the large increasingly wealthy middle class market in China).
现在战争中赢了中国再说😂
自大的傻瓜😂
A very simple question, is Taiwan part of China? If the answer is no, then China will openly support any separatist in your country. Sounds fair?
The machines used to make these chips are built here in the West. So yes, there will be a short term hit, however in the medium term we'd see a war-time production level of said systems. Don't underestimate the ability of the West to route around problems.
Well said and good job Why isn't this info in this report? Smh
Let's not forget that chips are only manufactured there, but the machines that make the chips are made in Europe! TMYK
when we import export everything.....you get this....
By "the world economy" they mean US and European economies.
East and Southeast Asia too. Trade ships to the east have to go near Taiwan to get to those countries. So if China and Taiwan getting through those routes would be a pain.
we need to support Taiwan
Of course
是的西方太强大了，不要忘了，欧盟现在GDP和中国大陆相当，还是节省一点经费解决国内的问题吧。
Tiwan is sovereign country... free Tibbat.
There didn't seem to be a perspective from the Mainland...
Doesn't make sense that they make all the chips🤔
Not much we average citizens can do. But was thinking about buying an EV next year, and MG was on the short list. Not anymore. I will not send my savings to China.
Buying made in China will allow you guys pay your rent or mortgage. Otherwise you may end up homeless
Poor Britain is still dreaming of cashing out HK huge cash reserve.
Why begging China to buy MG???
"vibrant and modern democracy" I can't count how many times I've heard that phrase... 🤢
Western self-praise.... while Germany is entering a recession and McCarthy is negotiating the US debt ceiling. They are really pathetic
Years ago, I couldn't count how many times I heard China say... "peaceful rise"... they stopped saying that now because NO ONE believes them anymore!
It’s not a matter if China will invade Taiwan, but when…
As devastating as Germany’s conflict with Bavaria.
It seems dw is hopping countries fighting each other. Remember this peace is always better than war. EU should find the way to solve Ukraine conflict rather than trying to advocate or provoke other going to war.
Tell it to China and russia, you know, the ones provoking wars...
warmongering has been normalized for decades. all this news will only spook the taiwanese who only want to be successful and improve standard of living like singapore. 2024 elections will likely confirm
So for peace, Ukraine and Taiwan have to be part of Russia and China! Is that what you want to say!?
But the machines that make that chips ( ASML ) are exually from The Netherlands
Pan Green is much cooler than Blue.
Japan will play the key role in the Taiwan Strait crisis. And China may not be very happy for the consequences if Japan get involved in the Taiwan Strait issue.
Many thinks Japan would deserve a long due revenge if they do involve in the unsettled civil war. Or any previous colonial power.
你错了。我做为中国人.希望日本卷入台海战争。这样我就中国就能名正言顺的报复日本。
Being a nice puppy of US, Japan will do anything to please its master.
It’ll be the end of Japan if they get involved. Their population is already declining how many more people are they willing to sacrifice for Taiwan? They want to see missiles raining down on all
The major Japanese cities?
Why are you so confident that Japan gets involved and the Chinese will be unhappy?
Losing all these... things... might actually take society back to a better time where everybody's not dependent on being trapped in their phones and disconnected from those standing next to them
Mainland Chinese wants Taiwan, because they believe after conquering it, everyone in mainland will get a new house, a new car, and a higher per capital 😂
Jiang lost to Mao. He took lot of China's mainland Assets to Taiwan that make Taiwan prosperous.
All the gold reserve of mainland China were stolen
NONSENSE! When Mao came to power, he ordered the destruction of ancient Chinese culture and heritage.... Taiwan saved them!
Irrespective of whether Taiwan is considered a country or not does not automatically cede the sovereignty to China.
The fact is that there are no internationally recognized treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of China.
In fact, Taiwan was not even included into the PRC constitution until 1978.
Taiwan has been under the partial control of 5 different regimes in the last 400 years in which it was only Japan who first governed the entire island. In fact the non-Han non-Mandarin speaking Qing (like the Mongols considered barbarians by the Han Chinese) only controlled about 1/5 of the island while the indigenous people controlled the majority.
The only legal way that Taiwan can amalgamate with China is if they agree to a treaty ceding their sovereignty.
China has been a walking zombie since 1940 with it's spirit and culture moving to Taiwan...
中国的内政需要你承认吗？你以为你是谁？
其实很简点，就是国共签署结束内战协议，不然说再多都是废话
A very simple question, is Taiwan part of China? If the answer is no, then China will openly support any separatist in your country. Sounds fair?
@@xinjianhx China should stop that illegal inclusion of Taiwan. There is absolute zero basis for that false claim. Fact is that RoC has the rightful claim of China's territory because that was criminally stolen by communist rebels against the government of China therefore the disputed territory is China and Taiwan is never part of the dispute.
yeah, i am gonna invest into some paper books