How could a war between China and Taiwan play out? | Four Corners
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- Tensions over Taiwan are the highest they’ve been in nearly three decades.
China has warned it will take Taiwan by force if necessary, while US military strategists are now mapping out war games to predict the impacts of a conflict.
They forecast it could become a brutal regional war, with casualties and carnage on a scale not seen since WWII.
It’s increasingly becoming a question of when - not if - China will launch an assault. Experts say it could be as early as 2025.
And Australia would play a key role in the conflict as it spills across the Pacific.
The investigation reveals how the US has been quietly building up its military assets in northern Australia, including plans to deploy nuclear capable B-52 bombers south of Darwin.
There are now fears that relationship could pull Australia deeper into any future conflict.
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I love the response of my commander " I don't spend my time worrying, I spend my time planning"
your commander said preparing ,not planning
Hooch
@@jrpatatas9928 Both word are at least part of the 7 P’s.
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Have a look at his eye pupils -they are so dilated
His duty isn't the plan, it's to follow orders.
As an American who has served, I believe we are extremely fortunate to have allies like Australia, Great Britain, Japan and many more. Yes the U.S. is very powerful but I believe the greatest strength comes from fostering powerful alliances between free nations.
Well said.
Rite on!
As usual it will be a gang fight, a dozen of countries led by the US vs China.
The world watched the trapeze man fall from the plane as the mighty Americans fled Afghanistan😂
perfect cannon fodder recruitment sentiments, Im tearing up here bruiser
Australia and the US not only allies but a friends. The US and Australia have stood shoulder to shoulder in every major conflict in modern times. More important is that Australia is a country the US can count on, and vice-versa. The US, Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand stick together no matter what.
There is deep affection in the US for Aussies, in fact I'm going to crack a Fosters right now. Cheers Mate!
They dont drink that in Australia. lol. That advertising got you.
@@DR10002 Their other option is to side with China and watch the Aussie boat sink. Nobody wants to go down with the ship.
@@hotchicsf Whats this have to do with my comment?
I love me some Aussies
@@DR10002 didn't you say you don't drink that?
Much love to you Americans;we here in Aussie do greatly appreciate your efforts and sacrifices for your friends like us here in Australia and the Pacific.
Keep a beer cold for us!
Did you hear 20:23 part??? They will make you a target like they did to Guam and when they dont need you, you will be discarded!!
Same to you friend!
Our countrymen fought and died beside each other and we will do it again
@FedupAmerican correct. You will go 1000s of miles away from your little country hometown to fight China over Taiwan and yes you will die there. Coz US never fought equal fight against strong army. You fought with 19 most powerful countries little Serbia in 1999 then also with others poor Iraq, then Lybia then Sirya and so on and on.
This time you will face China a formidable opponent if not on your level then very close to it. This won't be fkn Mujahideen with kalashnikov. Get ready for slaughter fest
One thing we can be sure of, whatever Gao says not to do is what we should do.
exactly when have the chinese ever folowed through on their promises
@@bigmojito1765 like usa promise in afghanistan
well said
Absolutely. I thank Gao for being a contrarian indicator on what we must do.
In fact Gao kindly suggested Australian not to commit suicide, and your response just proved an old Chinese adage: 好言难劝该死的鬼
Much love to the Aussies from America, we love and respect you. You are some of the best people on the planet.
The space-marine need you to test experience exo-unform,customize by collecting world component and gear.
Some of the best lapdogs in the world.
@抽血唔食得早餐嘅 Just another nasty comment we have learned to expect from people like you. Jump back over.
@@yank-blood-no-eat-get Taiwan independence is near.
You would think that, your country is planning a war waged on our soil not yours, yet your govt is causing this!
China’s biggest problem is managing a large scale amphibious assault without being detected .It took the US and Britain three full scale amphibious assaults (North Africa , Sicily and Italy) before attempting Normandy and even then it was helped enormously because of a strategic surprise.
It's not like chinas entire industrial sector is based off of stealing western IP
They didn't have hypersonic missiles at Normandy. They are too fast to be shot down. China and Russia have them, but USA doesn't.
That was the way war was fought in the 1940s and we are now in 2022, the war will play out quite differently today than 80 years ago..
@@jliang70 If you ignore history, you surely won't get anywhere.
@@billkage4279 Do you know history? The last time Taiwan experience a full scale naval attack was in 1683? Do you know what was the result of that war? Try to get somewhere tell me about Qing Dynasty's war against Ming loyalist in 1683. I know both current affair in Taiwan and mainland better than you do, I also know the history well.
As an American, we should be totally committed to helping any and all allies. Australian people are amazing and kind and deserve everything we could give to them.
I hope the People of USA don't run to Canada calling "hell no we won't go"
@@goodboyringo9716 that doesn’t make sense with what I said but okay!!
@@TrentBattyDrums ... It makes sense to me .
It doesn't make sense to you maybe because you are too young to know what that means or you ran to Canada during the Vietnam war as one of them.
Many many service men that fought for the USA were treated like crap by the American people during the war and after. They even spit in some service men's faces. I hope you understand now. I' a Marine so I know first hand.
@@goodboyringo9716 👍
but is it worth it, is having a war with a huge nuclear power capable of taking out all of our cities here in Australia just for keeping Taiwan safe, it doesn't make sense Taiwan has a population of 24 million, America 330 million, Australia 23 million Japan over 100 million, it just doesn't make sense to sacrifice hundreds of millions of lives just for Taiwan 24 million. I don't have the answer for this but war can't be the answer there's got to be something else that we can come up with rather then sabre rattling.
Why do bullies always accuse others of bullying and aggression when they're the only ones at it? For whom the bell tolls, no one can afford to stand by if they value their own freedoms & family lest there's no one left to stand with them by the time the bullies come ...
Because that is what bullies do
cause nukes, and cheap labour. luckily their economy is collapsing, and i believe that letting china strike first will be a strategical advantage. We may see that their army is under poor conditions as russia's was, making them less of a threat even with nukes. it just takes one massive stealth bombing operation to hinder china's nuclear capablitys. Or something like desert storm.
Well 🇺🇸 is good at it.
Because they feel threatened.
More specifically Xi feels his ideologies are threatened.
Because the only moral justification for physical violence is self-defense. The bully wants others to ignore the fact that unprovoked force is *_never_* self-defense.
When I went to Sydney, out of VN, in 1968, I was approached by an elderly lady who asked if " I was a Yank"? I told her yes that I was on R&R from VietNam. She was the only person in my military career who then said to me, "Thank you, we appreciate what you are doing, just as your fathers did for us in WW II!
well, the US lost that proxy war and caused a refugee crisis. thanks for your service?
@@harryk8696 you need to learn more
@@harryk8696 What happens when politicians try to direct the war instead of letting the Generals run it
@@harryk8696 America didn't cause the refugee crisis the north Vietnamese did 🙄
@@louisd6410 We won't have to. Taiwan can defeat a Chinese invasion all by itself. 500 anti-ship missiles will make quick work of any invasion fleet, and Taiwan has a lot more than that.
This is one of the main reasons that we want Ukraine to succeed if anything to serve as a cautionary tale to China regarding Taiwan.
Best believe that china is watching closely how the US reacts to Russia to determine how we may react to aggression to Tawain
it won't happen, it was never about that is just about making suffer economic loses to the RF can't you see? why do you care about an island miles and miles away from home?
What would be your reaction is suddenly China and the RF decided to support California's independency or decided the whole south legally belongs to Mexico and will military "support" the re-anexation? I bet most countries will be sending prayers and and wanted that to succed...
ONLY ONE! ALSO DON'T INVADE A FREE COUNTRY . BOTH DICTATORS WILL BE DEFEATED BY THE FREE WORLD , I GUARANTEE YOU !!FROM AUSTRALIA.
not a chance.
Very good show. Excellent in depth reporting.
Never underestimate your enemy.
Remember, as much as both sides might hurl propaganda at each other, we are both at great stake.
I also try not to underestimate the willingness of some to jump into the meat grinder for other people's geopolitical interests. Fear mongering is something the politicians often use to push their agenda to all of our detriment.
Yeah I’ve never underestimated the warmongering USA
@@MrFastFarmer warmongering usa? every world power war mongers, gets people to approve of higher military spending, which is in the end the greater good considering that if you didnt have a strong/er military you would end up like the polish in 1939. People obviously wouldn't vote for more military spending out of the blue, it sounds useless, hence why countries war monger.
@@Birdylockso What’s that supposed to mean? They are just fighting for land.
@@Bk6346 They didn't need to fight, if Zelensky could work out a diplomatic solution. The US wants to use Ukraine to degrade Russia, so in essence, the Ukrainians were fighting a proxy war for the US/NATO.
In the same way, the US wants to use Taiwan to degrade China politically and militaristically. All the while, the weapons the US will sell to both Ukraine and Taiwan will make the US weapon manufacturers billions of dollars! We are all under the manipulation of our politicians.
China is the largest global importer of food and oil. The majority of oil comes from the ME. The majority of food comes from the Americas and Australia/NZ.
China cannot secure the supply of either.
Until that changes, China’s threats against Australia and the U.S. are empty words.
My teacher once talked to us about that problem: he said you can't eat a cell phone and in six weeks their population would be decimated
And yet from Prussia to Imperial Germany to the Axis to the Korean War, the Gulf War, etc, it tends to be the weaker powers with the weaker economies that gamble and launch aggressive wars in part to try to break out of that box and seize a commanding position with regard to those resources.
US was the biggest supplier of oil to Japan
Your absolutely right. China's economic growth could not have happened without the big corporations in USA and Europe. Their ecomomy is an extension of the west's. Also militarily USA are the most advanced and powerful. China have no battle experience,a vastly inferior naval capability and airforce. He who controls the oceans controls the world.... And that would be uncle Sam by a mile 🌍. This documentary is laughable. Preemptive strikes on the US.... Yer China good luck with that one
Have you for got about COVID 19 already ? They pin point these dieases for any countries , at any
time, and lose no sleep just their peoples and not care .
Seems so much better to avoid a conflict
The rugby game segment is fun. Good stuff. Thanks for posting.
To those following current world news and followed the news before WWI and WWII, It's very difficult to now say that WWIII is not inevitable. The tensions world wide now because nobody can get along, and all seem to have forgotten the horrors of war are building up to a powerkeg and inevitable world conflict, if not already there.
I studied the wars myself I just wrote pretty much the same thing dude. This is really alarming, people don’t understand this is early days of a world war. The signs are all there I’ll be shocked if it does happen now.
Yea i think the people right before ww1 felt like us. They knew shit was going down, but no one really said anything because they all knew the war was coming, it was just a matter of when.
Every day could be the day i feel, and i'm pretty sure many others feel the same.
China says that Taiwan is China, but thats just simply not thr case. Taiwan used to be the republic of China, but now they dont even want the title of Taiwan anymore, they want to be called Taiwan. They are not China, they were never under the control of the CCP
This is mirroring the Weimar Republic apparently.
Communism and political divides became really prominant prior to WW1.
Society was in their Romantic period, nostalgic for times recently passed, similar to how music and movies are replicating comics, and the style of the 70's, 80's and 90's.
It feels like we are slowly sleepwalking into nuclear war and the end of the world;
1. There is a huge rise in nationalism on both sides.
2. Both sides feel weak but can't afford to look weak. They are arming themselves because they think the other side is stronger, but the other side feels weak and reacts by arming themselves some more.
3. Anyone who suggests a compromise is cancelled and shunned. The middle ground is slowly being eroded. There is a huge rise in intolerance.
I am really worried by the lack of logic and reasoning. But i am more disappointed by the West.
4. Weeks ago US/Australia/New Zealand were warning Solomon Islands that there would be consequences if they allow China station police (not military) in their own territory. They totally ignore the fact that in November 2021 thousands of Chinese were attacked in a riot most business burnt and looted were in China Town. They said that they were never consulted - as if they would consult Solomon Islands when they invited more American troops.
5. The former US ambassador to Russia stated that if Russia were to attack Ukraine with nuclear weapons, no one would ask Zelensky to cede part of his country to Russia. I kept wondering if that is really how nuclear weapons work, because if Russia nukes Ukraine there will be nothing left to surrender. Again in this video they keep saying that.
6. Then Zelensky himself telling us that Russia has captured and occupied a nuclear power facility and Russia not Ukrainian soldiers were responsible for the shelling of a facility they already occupy.
God help us all.
@@Snoop_Dugg The only flaw in this is the Weimar Republic formed after WW1. 1918-1933 into the Third Reich. Germany was an Empire during WW1 (1871-1918)
“War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.” - Niko Bellic
Nice in theory. During wartime, military service is obligatory. You are trained for 3 months and then if you are lucky and learn quickly you may survive!
you absolutely correct
@@PaquiCamus Obligatory? Not in Australia it;s not or in the UK or in any other modern Western country
No. I sounds like will try something
If u want peace prepare for war
Wow. Didn't know the US was this closely involved militarily with Australia. Thanks for the update
The US basically provides the Aussies with all of their military kit - besides the Nuclear subs that the Aussies will build (UK will provide the reactors) and their new frigate class (which is an Royal Navy class ship that been exported to Aussie and Canada.
ALWAYS WILL BE BROTHER!!
@@dynamo1796even Australia’s type 26 frigate (Hunter Class) despite being of UK built is going with the US Aegis system and MK41 VLS
@@tylergibson7593 Yeah that makes sense, only the Royal Navy has SAMPSON and S2500 EOGCS
The Australians are the only ones (NOT the French) that have went to War/Conflict on the right hand of the U.S. every single time in U.S. military history.
RLTW
I was getting ready to turn it off then you throw a b2 on the screen... touche 4 corners!
All looks pretty impressive, however there is a bit of a ditch between China's army and Taiwan, and seaborne invasions are very difficult, very technical I just do not see them getting it right
go look at where the nearest taiwan island is relative to china
Not that World War 2 D-Day invasion scenario again. How about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That got the enemy to surrender.
China is well prepare to fight US in the sea, not Taiwan, this is the anwer to your statement, check the number before you say something, we are afraid of China at the present.
@@Bk6346Then better be ready to get sanctioned for decades.
Uniting Germany and Austria was supposedly inevitable. It was portrayed as the culmination of the unfinished process of uniting all the various German states (Prussia, Bavaria etc) that had been apart for various historical reasons. Supposedly Berlin would supposedly never give up on it. And yet now basically nobody in Germany cares and there is no effort to merge the two countries. Beijing tries hard to portray taking Taiwan as inevitable, but it's not.
Well last time the germans wanted austria, Hitler was in charge. Also there is a difference between the concept of a unified german realm (what hitler and bismark wanted) and a unified German state (what happened after the berlin wall was toppled, or as a result of the franco-prussian war).
Yeah a little bit different
Taiwan has semiconductors
Be the first to fight for taiwan.
But Germany did annex Austria in the 1930’s. It took a world war and millions of dead Germans to finally get Austria back as a separate nation
Me as a Aussie wondering what would happen to australias borders
The First Question that should be asked before any of this is "Are the Taiwanese willing to fight for their so called Taiwan Independence?"
it is fairly obvious they are.
@@TheNomad2727 Standing from a shared cultural perspective I don't really think they are. No matter, what perspective you look at the potential war, the Taiwanese won't treat the war as an invasion of alien nation. Chinese civil wars are always cruel and the Taiwanese know that. China might not be willing to use weapon of mass destruction on foreign nation but their are on themself. This is how China has always behaved which includes PRC and ROC.
@@Lin-eo5xu I think Ukraine showed us that nations will defend themself no matter what even if some may consider them close to their attacker.
@@Ghostread First they have to be a nation
@@Lin-eo5xu well that's a given isn't it. Just because some people don't recognize it doesn't change the fact that they are a group of people controlling land and 100% govourn themself please explain what the difference between themself and other nations is. and they have been doing that for 50+ years. According to Russia Ukraine isn't a nation either it's the same. And if you look at the history of the conflict and really want to say that there is only one Nation doesn't the predecessor of the ROC predate the PRC? As far as i know in this case the PRCs origin is as an uprising and as far as i know they never had control over the current territories of the ROC. Therefore they have no claim to those People or lands or whatever they want. They need to calm down and accept that there is no reasen these 2 countries can't both exist. So thats my perspective plese explain to me why you think the PRC can't accapt that and want to cause war.
I love the Camaraderie between the Aussie s and the USMC
@@satanwillnotjudgeyou that's your right Satan
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There is no Satan. A man made nothing meant to inspire fear. Yet it amazes me how anyone can fear an imaginary boogie man created by man itself, which is no different than vampires, witches, ghosts, Frankenstein's, and the wolf man. The brains of some people......not in good shape......
Why they need you though?? Your literally over the othere side of the globe, so why and how can you help quick??
Remember the brits and anzacs was rolling como ism way back and stopped it before yanks had to deal with it??! ... MALAYA!!!!who said this was the way forward??..
I remember going to Vietnam, thinking I was with the most powerful military in the world, and that we would win
So did the Chinese and boy would you look at those casualty figures
So did the Russians in Ukraine and boy, will you look at those casualty figures.
@@paulohagan3309 no one has seen Russian casualty figures. are you talking about the western propaganda/lies?
On the one hand you think private property is inviolable, on the other hand you go to other countries to drop bombs. You are righteous because they think differently from you! right! That's it for Avatar!
USA played by the rules, almost fought with one hand tied, They really didnt touch the enemy (HANOI). This time they have to play by Chinas rules ( BY ANY MEANS ) dont concentrate on a naval battle hit every vital Chinese target hard and fast.
War, war never changes.
Ppl only forget.
It’s funny that someone that talks about how they won’t be bullied is trying to tell another county what to not think about. Kind of sounds like bullying 😂
Thanks to those Australians who support the US. My grandfather was among the first American troops to arrive in Australia during WW II. Fought along side Australians. I don't know any American that doesn't love the ANZACS and the UK. Thanks also for your help to Ukraine. These authoritarian barbaric dictatorships need to be dealt with.
Second this!
Your "Authoritarian barbaric dictatorships" applied to countries which simply attack, bomb & invade other sovereignty nations at their whims & fancies. Guess I don't have to name them out for you here.
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Fought...? They've been slaughtering indigenous people of Australia. They were settlers.. Russians are doing against Ukrine what all European, American and Australian did to every corner of the earth. Army of Satan.
Third this. Bullies need to be put in their place. They're paper empires with nothing to back them up than threats
Why is this Victor Gao still bein given so much air time - this guy should just be ignored.
He's a party mouthpiece; you want to know what the government is thinking you listen to him.
He is masterclass "Wolf-warrior" diplomat. The only type of "expert" PRC will allow to speak in international forums.
esse documentario ficou excelente!!!!!
My veteran WW2 family that's left in there 90s continues to say we're repeating 1937 all over again with all the warning ⚠️ there just different players events and circumstances but the outcome remained the same it led to another catastrophic world war that wiped out almost 100 million people in only 7 years but the events that led up to it started in the end of the 20s into early 30s and the disturbing negative buildup way way before the Biggest Kaboom In Modern History that changed are earth and way life forever and paved the way to the next catastrophic mistake and mess the Korean War and Vietnam War that both cost us catastrophically on levels that has has stayed with us since that period time
If I were Taiwan I would move most of the electronic semiconductors to either America Canada or Australia
saw US Marines , Australian Marines and Philippine Marines in Cavite doing war games last year, guess this is our side
i love how the marines are just cursing 24/7 lol
the last time they met the chinese in battle it did not go well for them
I find it hard to believe the U.S. would be caught sleeping on an initial “surprise” attack.
Cracks me up that their promotional songs sound like pop from thier enemies.
Armed combat always comes down to doctrine, logistics, intelligence, unit cohesion and leadership redundancy. It's very easy to look capable when a mountainside isn't shooting back, and the guy next to you isn't disappearing in a pink mist.
"a pink mist"??
My, you are gruesome.
@@craigkdillon No...Sounds like he's been there.
Chinas military is completely untested as well and if corruption in China is any indicator they will be almost as bad as Russia once reality kicks in and we see what they’re really capable of. In most of asia people bribe to get into military etc to have a lifetime government job then do not much all day.
@@Tamburello_1994 not necessarily. Plays a lot of FPS games. Don’t read too much into a basic comment.
@@samg8572 Your guess is as good as mine, and I'll read whatever I like -- I didn't ask for your help.
Nothing life has to offer is worth the price of worry. Worry is an unsettled mind and an unsettled mind is helpless. Concern means taking problems seriously with poise and clarity.
Brilliant wisdom, can I ask which school of thought?
@@jaybeebee9288 Part of Australia's DNA: "No worries." Those words are used quite often. Also psychology 101 // +++ Plus, you cannot always control the circumstances in your life however, you can control your RESPONSE to those circumstances (CBT). "A quiet mind cannot be perplexed or frightened."
Another successful attribute is to learn how to take emotion out of the decision making process… Your initial reaction is often the wrong reaction and it is important to take a second, even if a second is all you have, to make an informed decision.
Try to apply it every day. Ask yourself: “What is the problem? What is the emotion I’am associating to the problem”? … That is enough time to make an informed decision.
Do not react, do respond… even in combat.
On our imaginary gauge, be on the neutral zone, neither in a negative manner nor in a positive manner.
Do not react at all.
Instead take an action, one that you are in control of, rather than a reaction... an action you are not in control of.
Think back to anytime when you were angry and you will find that you reacted to some stimulus outside of yourself. Know this for a fact, you do not have to react to anything unless you want to react to it.
For most part we are programmed to react, we are hypnotised into thinking that a response in kind is called for or we are not mature adults.
Actually the mature adult is the one who thinks before reacting to anything.
@@jaybeebee9288 It's Chinese. I think we could get along. I don't know why we have to put so much effort into convincing them that this war isn't worth it.
that line of thinking needs to be applied to the chinese...who appear to be chomping at the bit and offer no end of bellicose statements....we, on the other hand... appear to be calm and cool while quietly getting ready....@@kevinmaccallum336
it would certainly have a major impact on the world's economy@@artispeedy
Thing is I don’t really think anyone is threatening China. It’s the other way around.
War is NOT the answer for gaining a piece of land. They should talk it over and be beneficial to everyone
17:18 this is the problem, NEVER underestimate your enemy. There's your weakness right there.
If you make the assumption that the majority of china's air fleet is soviet era, and poorly maintained, then yes, it is clearly a fair underestimation of their capabilities. This is a bad assumption to make. Assuming they are at least peer level to US capabilities, for most of their airframes, is a good start.
The j-20s, apparently stealth capable? Assume they are, prepare accordingly with better radar sets, and even if they aren't capable of as good stealth capabilities as US aircraft, you have longer range radar now. Hopefully... the Australian military is not as prone to underestimation as the ABC would suggest our government is.
@@Destroyer_V0 couldn't agree more
@@Destroyer_V0 I would not expect the Chinese to skimp on maintenance. But considering the current situation I expect spare parts to be hard to acquire. Same end result I guess.
@@Destroyer_V0 why do you think america is always making better stuff? We create gear capable of countering what the enemy pretends they have, and whether they have it or not, they’ll get smashed.
@@guybonfiglio5899 corruption in china o highly doubt they’re anyway really prepared. Also they’ve never fought a successful war.
China lacks combat experience, Russia been fighting in the Middle East helping Assad the Syrian dictator and look at how terrible their military fights. I believe China will make the same mistake
Yes i wonder that too.
Very revealing how bad the Russians are, so nothing to say the Chinese won't be as bad either.
Yeah like how 4 regions of Ukraine have been annexed now you would be stupid to underestimate a country if you have not seen there military fight because Taiwan military could be a lot worse.
Who needs experience when you are dogfighting from 100km+
It's all nice & dandy to shoot at targets that don't shoot back. It's also a different kettle of fish when u see your buddies being blown up to bits by your side...Russia's military performance in Ukraine at it currently stands is a big disappointment
Chinas threats of missile and naval power mean nothing if they can’t prove they work. shooting a missile into the ocean is different then shooting one at a us ship
Love the down under 👍
One thing is for sure the PLA has better soundtrack
China: Singing about "defending" the motherland from the defending defenders who didn't attack first.
Also China: Threatening the threatened because they feel threatened by their defensive posture.
I couldn’t have said it better! My name is Eric as well. Aloha 🤙🏽
@@EeZ3-808 I could have, it makes little sense at all.
It's called the security paradox and the US is just as guilty
@@federicobilli8606 I agree, the only difference is that the US isn't surrounded by Chinese and allied military.
The civil war isnt over. Both sides fought over the same claims.
In war no one wins in the end. The costs are too high. Training and preparation is crucial but the goal is to keep working for peace.
Wrong, the military industrial complex always win every single time.
Tough times creates tough men tough men tough men create soft times soft times create soft men.
@@augustinevelajr3915 😂 ok Joe rogan
This all reminds me to a speech by John F. Kennedy during the Cuba crisis: "Together we shall save our planet, or together we shall perish in its flames."
Agree
Meanwhile here in America we enjoy walking around freely. Going to Starbucks and shopping for the newest smartphone. 90% have no clue what’s happening!
The price of freedom is unknown to those who enjoy this freedom
What, you think in China people don't go to Starbucks and shop for the newest smartphones freely? You are on TH-cam. You claim you live in a free democracy. So use the internet. Use TH-cam. Check for vlogs made by Westerners who travel to China. Go figure.
Thank you, Australia,
Taiwan people have firmly rejected the idea of becoming part of China. That's been shown on multiple polls over decades. Taiwan people also firmly rejected China's so-called "One Country Two Systems", which has proven a disaster as examplified by Hong Kong. Taiwan President Tsai stands firmly on that position, which is one main reason people voted for her in 2016 and 2020. Every Taiwanese above 20 has a direct vote in presidential election.
I wish I had a direct vote in presidential elections.. EC makes no sense to me
Not true ,they are actually surprised China is growing faster than them ,even.
Are you a native Taiwanese? I read or saw a video that stated that the majority of Taiwanese.... or was it just the young, as in teens to young adults, were indifferent about joining the military and were not interested in the politics regarding the relationship of Taiwan and Mainland China. The feature that asserted this seemed to imply that they were more interested in their business affairs and that politics were a nuisance to be ignored.
@@dconov Politics affects business affairs. TSMC relies on other countries to survive, especially the west. They want the status quo, anything else risks their economy.
Poll is most unreliable thing ever look at US and Australian polls. It is whatever they want you think
Remember what army we kept hearing about as 'perhaps the 2nd most powerful in the world'? Now look what it's doing in Ukraine... don't panic from the Chinese propaganda
4 regions annexed from Ukraine yeah their propaganda is something.
Aussies mind this: fractional orbit bombardment, tailor made for long range targets like this.
If there war machine is anything like the cars they make it won’t be a problem lmao!!
It will be akin to a very very prolonged version of Battle of Okinawa all over again. Taiwan’s terrain is rather similar to it, except that its defender has more than 7 decades to prepare for it rather than mere weeks or months like Imperial Japan in mid 1945.
The mainland has been preparing for an invasion for decades; it's been thoroughly thought out.
@@jiokl7g9t6 Well, Imperial Japanese Navy were severely crippled then. Its Army counterpart didn’t fare much better either. US Navy sent a gigantic fleet of carrier and battleship to invade it. Yet, fully conquering it proved arduous task even for them. Moral of the story : don’t underestimate defender with enough determination who know their terrain inside out.
Just so you know. The Chinese that make up the Taiwanese used to outnumber the communists 3 to 1 in the Mainland.
They received what is equivalent to hundreds of Billions of dollars in equipment from the US in today's money during the Chinese Civil War.
They had thousands upon thousands of American WWII battle hardened veterans embedded in their military as military advisors with them..
Guess what? t
They still lost the war.
If they couldn't win in the Mainland why would anyone think they would win in Taiwan.
They have never won a single war.
War is not the same as it was 80 years ago. Comparing the modern battlefield to one in WWII, such as Okinawa, would be like comparing that same battle to the Crimean war or the American Civil War
@@hsheuw Correction: dont underestimate a defender with enough determination AND SKILL. The japanese were effective due to their combat experience and training which was superior that of the US (but not Australia, demonstrated when 300 of our men held off thousands in PNG). The US helped us win due to technological superiority, sheer numbers, and the ability to support a long and harsh war.
At the moment, the CCP only has one of those principles, which is sheer numbers. However, in the modern age, sheer numbers doesn't mean shit due to force multipliers. China has no chance against the west. I highly doubt they'll even be able to support the war effort outside of their own nation. They're not as much of a threat as people think.
1:52 I never heard someone say "Australier" before and I'm strangely livid
I love intellectual types that can't comprehend the military ensures their ability to voice contrary points I view and not have to die for them
You have to love Victor Gao, he is by far the best advocate for the Western alliance. He should be on TV every night in the West.
I like that Victor Gao guy, he is perfectly programmed the way we expect and want a Chinese Bot to be. 😂
Rest assured that if ever fighting breaks out, none of his family or extended family will be sent to the frontlines.
@@indiasuperclean6969 apni shakal dekhi h aayne me?
The hive mind never fails
😅😅😅😅😅😅
😂 exactly...he doesn't even seem real...and when any fighting breaks out...these types are nowhere near any of the smoke
I'm a veteran and I've seen the ramifications and ugliness of war up close and It's imprinted on my mind like a branding iron. I find the term "war-games" not only an oxymoron but repulsive.
_"The bombers could be based outside of missile range, but still fly in and strike the Chinese."_ Yes, but when they "fly in" they are no longer outside of missile range.
That's a kamikaze attack. B52s are big targets.
0:47 buddy eyes are closing and he has glasses 😂😂😂
I love Australia and Australians, always. Visited Sydney in '65 and fell in love with the place. locals rolled out the welcome mat, I will never forget that!
😚😚😚 😚😚😚 🤐🤐🤐 🤐🤐🤐>>>
I'm Australian, David, and I really appreciated your kind remarks. I am so glad we treated you kindly. Best wishes from Queensland, Australia.
You visited the worst city mate.
It's full of traffic problems and it's too cosmopolitan. It's like visiting New York.
Melbourne is way better. ;)
@@Snoop_Dugg Sydney in 1965 would be way better than Melbourne now.
@@joebloggs24 I wasn't alive then, but why would it be better?
Historically, Chinese Army's performance hasn't been too impressive, to say the least.
Corruption is always rampant, and morale could be very low. Very few, if any, have real battlefield experience.
The Russian Army was feared by many until their incompetence was exposed.
The same may very well happen when China attempts a large scale military action.
Nicely put, CHINA HAS NEVER BEEN IN A WAR, they only work on BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS (hence the Wuhan Institute)
In my opinion, the People's Republic of China is a paper tiger.
I think it is extremely ironic that the Chinese Armys official name is the "People's Liberation Army."
Who are they going to liberate?
Most of their current military buildup is openly in preparation for the invasion of Taiwan. They need to either change their name or direct their invasion efforts toward places where the population is in need of liberation. Might I suggest North Korea?
I wouldn’t bet against it, our nation has the worst levels of wealth and home ownership in the world for people of combat age. When the time comes a large segment of people will ask how much should I give. This isn’t the 1940s.
Russia aren't going hard at it yet, they're draining money and weapons from the west into a black hole called Ukraine
and australia wonders why china don't want to buy their stuff anymore... lol
I would make sure Victor Gao was one of the first casualties of war.
GAO talks he can’t even snap his finger to make a a lil sound if they attack we will know cause they can’t even swim underwater for 2 min with their bags
Amphibious landings are ridiculously hard to do … I believe most Island countries with modern weaponry are almost impossible to invade. It was hard in ww2, modern weapons would tear up anything trying to come ashore.
True, but no matter how much training one has in warfare, there is NO substitute for combat experience, something the PLA has NOT had...other than murdering over 40,000,000 unarmed Chinese Citizens whose only CRIME was that they didn't want to live under Communism!
Taiwan can easily be attacked without making landfall. Florida is almost 5 times the size of Taiwan and 100 miles from China. Let that sink in.
@@Scorpio-tn4vy attacking a country is one thing occupying it is another
@@troublej1035 Taiwan isn't a country. It is a province of China.
@@Scorpio-tn4vy Florida is 100 miles from China?
0:26 sounds like the ripped off To Hell and back by sabaton
A good chamorro friend in guam with two tours of vietnam called rugby combat us football,
Loved it
Taiwan is surrounded by seas and would like to see more preparations on seas including its allies
All wars, unless invading and occupying are driven by air power.
Australia knows the ocean just about better than anyone else
we've been building new bases in the pacific since obama, when he did the "shift to asia" none of this is catching our military by surprise. phase one of ww3 is secure the oil, attack your enemies on their periphery. afghanistan, iraq, arab spring, syria (russian ally, russian naval base), libya, coup in turkey. aegis ashore romania, poland, ukraine (russian naval base, home to black sea fleet). It's already started.
Finally someone else who knows that most wars are started years before the "official start". China too have been undermining the west where they can for years. The last phase before war becomes official will be mainstream media OFFICIALLY reporting Covid was manufactured and released by The CCP, and exposing their involvement in Fentanyl distribution to the west
Thank you for Sharing, IMO this would already be happening had the russians conquered Ukraine easily... Ukranians are literally dying for the free World. RESPECT. Slava Ukraini!
Lmao
Slaughtering civilians became legit😂
You are blind. The US set the stage for Ukraine. It is a proxy war. The Elite WEF and Left of the US and arrogance of the EU want a war at the cost of the innocent; even a Nuclear war. They wanted to spy on Russia as they are obsessed with Russia; filled with arrogance and pride. Go take a few red pills, dig deep then go down the rabbit hole.
Ever see the show Redacted? They dig deep.
This might be America's toughest opponent in it's history which is China with it's staggering population and army
You mean they're not winning?
Aussies are just Texans with a more weird Accent
UMMMMMM....you seem to forget the "Silent Service" US Submarines......
we’re all together no questions no hesitation 🇺🇸🇦🇺🇨🇦🇬🇧 🇳🇿Theres no breaking this bond ❤ from 🇨🇦
Hear!, Hear!
I love our commonwealth and NATO friend’s. Despite our differences our number one goal is to protect democracy. We stand with you.
YES. And of course Japan, Singapore, South Korea, India and much of South East Asia has had a gut-full of the CCP. And France has bases in the Pacific too.
Who is "we?" Don't see you serving courtesy of the 82nd Airborne 504th "devils".
Yes yes... even though there were no WMDs found in Iraq.. we shall follow the US to the end of the earth.. You whistle, we will come
It's so encouraging to have reliable trustworthy partnerships in the event of wasr.
Aha, do I detect cynicism to highlight the USA stealing your lunch and dinner when they stepped in and replaced the same products that China refused from Oz.
To publicly release the details from “blueprints” for the proposed B52 infrastructure at Tindal seems unusual to me. 🤔
I’m absolutely sure that if China plans to take Taiwan by force it’s militarily strategists have also factored in all possible scenarios including the possibility of other militarily powers coming to the aid of Taiwan…
Lulz. Even if china takes taiwan, It will gain a barren island. There is a 0% chance that anything will be left for them.
@Paul Kiely
'absolutely sure that if China plans to take Taiwan by force'?
Time is on China's side. Why hurry?
In 8 years' time, China's GDP will be bigger than that of the US. China's military might will also be more intimidating.
Have you notice that China hasn't fired a single shot to become the world number two in 30 years? Infra structure and economic growth is China's strength. Why use destructive military force if one can achieve the same objective by peaceful means?
This is one of the top strategies hailed by Sun Tzu in his 'Art of War': Win the War without fighting a battle.
'Take Taiwan by force' will only benefit the US.
The US is trying to repeat the Ukrainian success in Taiwan. But looks like China is more tactful than Russia, and the US.
true, as we all know, Korea, Japan, Philippines and even Vietnam have been growing their military due to China's aggression in the South China Sea.
@@audieacer What is the ASEAN? What is RCEP? We know it is you job to create hatred in the area. However, can you be more tactful?
@@liulaolao7269 I grew up in Thailand and Hong Kong, I know what the Chinese Government have tried to and may do to any competition in Asia. btw the ASEAN group is mainly for economic development not military.
The way they promote Pine Gap in this report led me to believe there are nothing but cardboard antennas at that place. The real missile silos and listening devices are probably somewhere in the Simpson desert.
Nah it's already far out of range anyways.
Hosting the US forces at Pine Gap is a privilege and an honour. When we all stand together, the nations of the anglosphere are unbeatable. Currently, the ChiComs have managed to split NZ away from the group. They are the weakest member. Australia must not follow.
Ideologically, NZ split from the group long before China was an issue. NZ PM David Lange is a good example.
“America is quietly building up their military assists in Australia” well not quiet enough to announce it plain and clear on national television so it can’t be THAT quiet
China is not being bullied or challenged by an outside country its the other way around.
Tibet is not part of China 🙂
Neither is East Turkmenistan, a sovereign country illegally invaded and occupied by China, now the site of ethnic concentration camps for a million non Han people.
At least there’s no ocean between China and Tibet.
And West Papau is not part of Indonesia BUT we need them in an alliance against China so we turn a blind eye. Also the ROC Chinese nationalists like the CCP do not recognise Tibet and East Turkestan.
But it is 😂 ask the world’s government. You’re delusional
Hawaii nor Guam never want to be part of the the US but they were forced with gun pointed to theirs head to jointed US.
Solid 4 corners piece as usual 👌
This is nuts, It's like Doctor Strangelove all over again. Will we ever learn!
so who thought displaying the blueprints for the nuclear bomber base was a good idea
I thought it strange so much time was spent on Darwin without mentioning the Japanese attack during World War 2. Surely that has a big effect on the local perspective. We could guess it makes them think and feel whatever, but seems like an obvious question to just ask the residents so no one is guessing.
Roosevelt had known a week prior to attack on pearl harbor that the attack was comming .
But he and the banker's wanted the attack to pursuede the American public to go to war so he Roosevelt hung over 2000 men and half the pacific fleet out to die.
Roosevelt wasn't a hero he was a crook that hung thousands of men and women out to die so he and his banker buddies could eat pheasant drink expensive wine and count profits while millions of people died
@@michaelbunner7387 I won't even try to teach you the whole history of Pearl Harbor in a comment. If you really believe what you just wrote, you're not even falling for a new groundless conspiracy theory, but an old one that was debunked many decades ago when some 20th century equivalent of a troll came up with it. The bit I'll give you is ask if such a disaster was needed to get the US into the war. Japan declared war, so the answer is no.
@@webcelt historical facts prove this.
And the admiral of the pacific fleet when interviewed confirmed my statement as fact.
If u choose to beleive propaganda as fact that is given to you by western board of media propaganda and disinformation that is your choice.
As for the roosevelt family they have as a family been directly involved
In far more felonously crimminal crimes against a country then just the pearl harbor attack but again you would have to get past the propaganda and study historical facts
@@michaelbunner7387 So you're the only one in the world who knows the history. Must be nice. Next, you're going to claim all the people at Pearl Harbor were crisis actors.
@Michael Bunner Maybe I'msuffered
Chinese ambassador "We conducted the biggest military war games ever showing total domination of Tiawan". He didn't seem to mention the US Navy totally surrounding the Chinese wargames....
He probably would have been executed if he stated the obvious
When did the US military surround the Chinese war-games. The US had an Aircraft carrier near Japan and that was it.
@@johnpaul252003 That US Aircraft carrier was enough. And you can be sure it was not the only war equipment in the area. Aircraft carriers ARE PART OF A BATTLE "GROUP!"
@@theodethomasa6358 so you think a carrier battle group can take on all of the PLA. What are you smoking 🚬?
@@johnpaul252003 My reply upset you?
Do you have any idea how large a carrier battle group is? Maybe you should go smoke something and calm down!
There’s no need to asked the outcome of War between any country.. The only question we need to ask ourselves is what do we fight for?
What about submarines? Preventing the crossing
Oh wow they putting in a nuclear capable B-52 bomber. I thought that was just a regular B-52 bomber.
I studied foreign policy in university.
Similar to how Britain gifted America technology in WW2, I firmly believe we should be gifting submarine and aviation technology to Australia.
There were several military academia reports that stated that if Australia and New Zealand had access to more sensitive US aviation and submarine technological capabilities. They would be able to rapidly use them to develop their own systems. By Australia having an extremely powerful submarine and fighter aircraft fleet , allows them not only to protect against China, but allows them to help protect some of the most important waterways in the Indian Ocean. Australia is a country that's going to have massive global significance over the next century, and we need to do more to help our allies.
When you look at an aggressive and expanding China. They're going to follow the same strategy of the Japanese had in WW2.
They need the Philippines, the Indonesian, and Australian areas. The metal, rubber, oil, just the vast natural resources of this area makes it critical for long-term war effort and economy.
As an American 100% in supportive of our Australian allies and I think we need to be doing more! We need to be building new joint military facilities, exchanging technology and have a highly integrated military systems, I would even propose as going as far as building joint infrastructure projects together.
Well you yourself then can provide billions of your own tax dollars :)
The first thing both 🇺🇸 🇦🇺 needs to do is uproot the infiltration of CCP agents in their military and govt. I mean, having ex military pilots train the Chinese is just the tip of the iceberg. Transfer of technologies is the easy part, but basically handing it to your enemy is a no go.
Hay hope you're not misaligned with who the Americans truly are and that America was once a none existence country
I know that to be a true American is to be an Irish nationality and the population in Australia is from Ireland
And not the indigenous of Australian people.... Same as so many other locations that you know of if you would only do your own researches....
While you were studying foreign policy, did you learn about how the US military worked with European nations to spy on Black Americans? Do you know they did this to keep fellow Americans from simply building trade routes and economic opportunities in Africa? African Americans had turned toward Africa when America refused to extend democracy and civil rights to them. Be skeptical of what you study or hear in the news about US policy goals. The US is not always an honest actor.
America needs to keep it's technology, laboratory, Labor,
Manufacturing
And productions in its own country ....
"Dwelt With, With Force"
if it's a secret base, it's a secret worth hiking to and putting on the internet!
It's coming soon no one is going to back down
“Everyone has a plan, until they get [hit].” ~ the GOAT (Mike Tyson)
It is like kung-fu vs mix martial arts.. who do you think will win? 😂😂😂
MMA would always win
Good video, but you dont really answer your own titled question
The spokesman for China states, if Australia wants to join the USA against China then it should be ready for armageddon. In my opinion, he should also place his motherland in the same situation to face armageddon and the end of China as it exists today.
I agree!
great you are threatening a nuclear power that can destroy the whole world
@@jesselu143 It will be mutual destruction. It is about time Chinese to overthrow CCP and bring some relief to oppressed citizens of China.
I think the invasion of Ukraine has set back the invasion of Taiwan for years if not decades. It is a treasure trove of information.
Strategies to inflict maximum attrition are surely being studied by Taiwan.
And if China has any good sense, they'll ask themselves "what if Taiwan actually fights back?" and re-write their strategy from scratch.
Taiwan ain't gonna fight back afterall they are Chinese and peaceful reunion is the ultimate objective of Chinese on both side of the strait. Americans don't want that because their objective is to destabilize the asia Pacific to keep their hegemony
Taiwan cannot fight against China on their own, they'll lose very quickly.
Sun Tzu - know your enemy and know yourself and your will never suffer defeat. The west has been completely deluded about the Russian operations. Ukraine will be completely crushed in the coming weeks. From Sun Tzu to any modern military strategist if you fail in logistics and controlling the high ground you will not win. Russia completely controls both in Ukraine as China controls in Taiwan. Russia is winning the greater strategic game without firing a shot as will China.
A total blockage of Taiwan would bring it to a grinding halt in weeks. Even in the absence of a blockade, simply stopping trade with Taiwan would break the economy.
@@tonym842 yah but could they operate a total blockade with the us navy floating around? Outcome would be the same eventually, total war.
Also the think tanks playing war games… guaranteed very few if any have ever been in a war.
China forgetting they are talking to back to back World War Champs here.
lmao. champs who couldn't beat some villagers in Afghanistan lol. America or west never had a competitor like china so stop with your past dude.
An amphibious landing on open, prepared beaches with today's technology is tantamount to suicide.
Yes but sadly they could use Putins attitude, just wipe out the civilian population and infastructure and like putin sit back safe at home and have a vodka or green tea.
@@georgeberman2871 That worked out this time because Ukraine didn't have nukes. What country would agree to not having a nuclear response card to play now? NATO is flaccid, you can only rely on yourself.