Butch Vig on Why You Should Tour with an Electronic Drum Kit

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  • @sweetwater
    @sweetwater  ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Are you rocking with an electronic drum kit? Tell us in the comments why you do or don’t prefer to use one, and head over to Sweetwater for all your e-kit needs! 👉 sweetwater.sjv.io/Drums-Percussion

    • @bigotonbrand
      @bigotonbrand ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm working on a pearl rhythm traveler a2e conversion. Will be trying the td8 w lemon cymbals.

    • @kentadamson6992
      @kentadamson6992 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recently purchased a TD-27kv. I absolutely love it. I am converted to electronic drums.

    • @robwomer5358
      @robwomer5358 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm running drum -tec Diabolos with a mimic pro , works for me ...

  • @Uninterested69420
    @Uninterested69420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a sound engineer, this approach genuinely spares us so much pain😭😭

  • @joe08867
    @joe08867 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This works so well for my band. We do use stage monitors, but they aren't turned up past the 1/2 mark. Not having the brass killing our ears is a huge win. And nothing beats the consistency from venue to venue. Love it.

    • @LocaliLLocano
      @LocaliLLocano ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you using the stock TD50X kits ?

    • @superblondeDotOrg
      @superblondeDotOrg ปีที่แล้ว

      my only concern would be the latency (sampler/midi, D/A, etc). even if the delay is in the single-digit milliseconds, it is still able to feel that amount of latency while playing.

    • @ravellidrums6516
      @ravellidrums6516 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superblondeDotOrg nope, not at all, u wont feel any latency, the drums are so evolved in terms of real feel playing ;)

    • @fixxxer602
      @fixxxer602 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superblondeDotOrgtodays computer chips have almost no latency. My Mac M1 is a beast

    • @steffenpanning2776
      @steffenpanning2776 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the chips are not the problem. It's the operating system. The brain of an e-kit has only one job. The ooerating sysrem of a pc has many jobs. Check if some thing has to be written to the disk, check for user input
      , check for updates. Install updates. Check if other users want to log in. And so forth. All that takes time and can cause latency. A modern desktop os is not a realtime os.

  • @justryan7109
    @justryan7109 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After finally seeing the light in having infinite choices with my e-kit, I will never go back. Steven Slate Drums 5.5 is absolutely AMAZING!

  • @jakejenkins2245
    @jakejenkins2245 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Saw Butch with Garbage opening for Tears for Fears last year. Shirley was on fire and Butch's drum sounds were killer!

  • @HarrisCodini
    @HarrisCodini ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Butch is a real legend

    • @michaelpreston7472
      @michaelpreston7472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So is Nick!

    • @ricechild
      @ricechild ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I saw him in concert with Garbage. Omg! Mind blowing!

  • @NotMyWar
    @NotMyWar ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Electronic drums have come a LONG WAY and are very impressive nowadays, however I prefer the feel of acoustic still. By the way: You can tell Nick isn’t from Indy, he called Deer Creek, Ruoff.

  • @Skypusher
    @Skypusher ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Saw Garbage opening for TFF in Dallas last year, amazing show all around, and I was super impressed with just how good Garbage sounded and the house mix.

  • @StereoAnthony
    @StereoAnthony ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been playing electronic drums live since I got them in 2012. I still have a hard time with bands or friends to convince them of all of their virtues. Once I get everyone on in ears and throw on some Superior Drummer libraries, it will make a big difference to the sound quality both onstage and off.

  • @stickdrumsnrocknroll
    @stickdrumsnrocknroll ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought a TD27 2 years ago and only use it to practice and for rehearsals with my band, which is great and so comfortable for us !

  • @guitardude1981
    @guitardude1981 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree! Consistent drum sound from venue to venue along with guitar modelers all direct! No loud cymbals, drums, and drum shields, along with no loud guitar amps! Makes the stage quieter along with the FOH sound engineers job mixing easier!

  • @makemusicordie
    @makemusicordie ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was at the show with Garbage/High Flying Birds in Washington on June 3. Thought the drums sounded AMAZING, and I did in fact see them about a decade ago when the plexiglass was still a thing. I thought the drum sound was cleaner this time, and had noticed he had gone electric! Love it!

  • @NonnyStrikes
    @NonnyStrikes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been telling this to everyone I come across for years now. The kits are becoming so customizable and precise.
    Looks can be modded. Sounds can be modded. Feel of the kit down to the rims and pedals can be modded.
    Recording is the fastest it has ever been since you can in-ear everyone to perfection for practices. If you really know what you're doing, you can do one go at it, and readjust the drum parts to perfection, then have the guitars, vox, anything else do recording to it. Just unreal times brother.
    Not to mention..... the setup time is less than 5 minutes for an experienced drummer that knows his way around the kit/brain.
    Practices are the best feature. You will no longer bother anyone, and you will not go deaf.

  • @TheSimonPro
    @TheSimonPro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all technology and use it extensively everyday. As a FOH mix engineer and drummer seeing the way Neil Peart used electronic technology and acoustics was the perfect balance. I think in smaller venues electronics work great and should be embraced. However I’m personally not ready to just abandon the entire acoustic kit yet. In this industry we have a history of just jumping on the next cool thing and abandoning everything else for it, only to find ourselves a few years later coming back to what we left behind. IMHO

  • @anttherubbishdrummer.8513
    @anttherubbishdrummer.8513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I gig with a Roland VAD506 triggering Superior Drummer 3. Brilliant combination. Have different kits I've edited for different songs.

  • @Braymond212
    @Braymond212 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a great interview! Shoutout to Nick for his great interview chops and clear/concise questioning. Keep it up guys!

  • @GeorgeFalconer
    @GeorgeFalconer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An interesting and useful perspective of edrums in a live context from a respected music figure. I found this very helpful.

  • @DRSMOOTH2U
    @DRSMOOTH2U ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great interview

  • @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922
    @rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use a Roland VAD 706 Gloss Cherry Finish kit and a Roland SPD-SX PRO sample pad with 2 BT-1 trigger bars. My band runs a “quiet stage”…no amps, side fills, monitors or acoustic drums.

    • @karthikiyer6745
      @karthikiyer6745 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are the hi-hats and cymbals? Do they feel just as articulate and dynamic as the acoustic ones?

  • @rallenrallen
    @rallenrallen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the production company of Starlight Express (Bochum, Germany) made me play a full Roland TD 50 kit, I had a bit if a struggle changing from playing the show on acoustic drums and cymbals for 10 years. The rebound feels just the opposite way to me. It took some time to get used to it. This show goes on for 35 years now, 7 to 8 shows a week, two hours straight playing per show. I had to re adjust my way of playing to not be in pain all the time. Btw. The first kit in this show was a Dynacord ADD ONE with acoustic cymbals. Then TD10, ddrum/Akai S1000, TD20, Sonor Delite Kit and finally the TD50. Let‘s what comes next. 🤪

  • @TimFloodmusic
    @TimFloodmusic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I use Roland TD-25KV drums which are very nice, but I just can’t count on the cymbal pads. They are great when they work but they have all failed in less than 3 years. The ride was replaced under warranty but one year later the new ride started having issues. The warranty is only two years from original purchase and the fact that the pads are quite costly to replace is a real bummer. I don’t feel that I could ever count on these in a live setting.

  • @artsal
    @artsal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome interview thanks nick

  • @ElBoyoElectronico
    @ElBoyoElectronico 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I play electric drums out of necessity (small flat) and I do enjoy their advantages. But since I do a lot of dynamic playing with my band (brushes, hot rods, mallets, percussion), their use case is severely limited for actual band drumming. If you are a rock/metal drummer, I could see eDrums as useful, but for real dynamic music (songwriter, jazz, etc) acoustic drums are a must imo.

  • @isaacsitiakalaabwenje
    @isaacsitiakalaabwenje ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've enjoyed the discussion On the electric Drum-kit by Mr. Butch vig Thanks Nick

  • @simonr9870
    @simonr9870 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick seems to really like Ghostbusters by seeing that painting. Great Interview Nick !!

  • @JoshFryer
    @JoshFryer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I could listen to Butch talk about music for hours. Great interview!

  • @simonsmith2642
    @simonsmith2642 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need a small footprint and almost zero noise pedals? Im using the SPD Pro with KT9 and FD9 kick and hat and that thing is a beast, and takes up no room at all, and the pedals are virtually noise free. Great for like an upstairs 1bd rm apartment or real small gigs or any gig at all really. Electronic kits dont turn the audience off anymore like they used to.

  • @jjn232
    @jjn232 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Used different Roland kits in my wedding band for the last decade. No stage volume issues using IEM and Line6 and sound was dead on gig after gig. Very important to have a good PA with subs mixed well to get the best results.

  • @progression_decibel
    @progression_decibel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superb conversation with Butch! With his extensive live experience I would love if he published a few of his TD-50X kits (sans the samples) to something like Roland Cloud.

  • @DrWasabiBeats
    @DrWasabiBeats ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such nice guys ❤🎉

  • @EdwoodCA
    @EdwoodCA ปีที่แล้ว

    Double scratch plates on the acoustic in the background. Looks funky!

  • @steveinflorida773
    @steveinflorida773 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the ddrum3 was the unit you would have really wanted, could take samples, 18bit better playability since the 80's than today, especially with the toms. No cymbals however. Roland td27/50 cyms and ddrum3 is the ultimate.

  • @nomanshigh3058
    @nomanshigh3058 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tried using Roland TD50s to gig for a while. Just didn't tickle my pickle but boy howdy did the sound boys love it. But if I'm not enjoying playing people can tell and I just don't like the feel of rubber and mesh or the limits of MIDI (127).

  • @martinjgriffiths
    @martinjgriffiths ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Our singer convinced me to use my TD30 in live situations. I agreed but stuck with my acoustic cymbals. When used in combination with our X32 desk and wireless mics and IEMs, we genuinely get a studio like sound that other local bands cannot get close to. We love the freedom this generation of equipment gives us, that crucially is very affordable for us.

    • @sethcenterbar
      @sethcenterbar ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny. We have a similar setup and I’ve been begging my drummer to try vdrums for smaller venues. I’ve always thought the opposite would work, acoustic kit and v cymbals (which seem to be the loudest part).

    • @martinjgriffiths
      @martinjgriffiths ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sethcenterbar that depends on how hard a hitter you are ;-)

  • @a.proctopus
    @a.proctopus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i have an alesis strike pro se, and the sounds and feel are pretty good for at home rehearsals with drumless tracks, but i HATE the rubber cymbals inhibiting the glancing swipe i’ve gotten used to on acoustic cymbals. other than that, i’m actually pretty impressed with the acoustic-like sound capabilities. i have yet to try in any live setting at all, but i have another new project brewing, sooo..maayybe

  • @BrianRussTVC
    @BrianRussTVC ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nick, Zach Starkey plays a fully electric kit with The Who

  • @LiveFromPFD
    @LiveFromPFD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Butch! I finally feel vindicated 😅

  • @RulesRedefined
    @RulesRedefined ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is an absolute imperative for bands playing in smaller venues like clubs and pubs. Having an acoustic drum kit inside that small a space is just a noise fest to make the other instruments sound at par with the drums. A v kit inside smaller venues is a must. Ultimately the show is for the audience and if they don’t understand what is happening because the drums are eating away into everything then there is no point of the show

  • @TheLostTones
    @TheLostTones ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys, if someone can clarify: I know Butch used to play with Pro-mark sticks but recently I got his drumsticks at a concert and after peeling I had a surprise: it is a pair of Tommy Igoe's Groove Essentials! I am not a drummer and I know he has (or had) a signature model. Any thoughts on the why? Is it usual for drummers not to play with their own? Sorry about the question! Thank you!

  • @sparrovski
    @sparrovski 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would like to go live with my triggered mesh head acoustic kit and maybe electronic cymbals. I thought I was a heavy hitter, but our guitarist seems to get louder and louder, and any discussion seems to be lost on him. I will be able to turn up each time he does and then not have to sacrifice technique with bashing. That would fix him.

  • @TheBubbarom
    @TheBubbarom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've just started using my TD 27's on stage. The 1st thing I noticed was, through my drum monitors I could get the sound I wanted to hear ,but the sound booth wasn't sure about putting the signal in the mains since they could only control the final signal, not the drum set mix. It's ok, but not great. All suggestions appreciated!

  • @ChrisBakerDrummer
    @ChrisBakerDrummer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All of the church sound guys/worship leaders need to watch this and realize that they're PROBABLY better off with a good Roland kit than their attempts at using acoustic drums. From my experience, at least. Great interview!

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean, yes. They have to put drummers behind the dreaded plexi prison because the trend in Gospel drumming is now to hit as hard as the strength God gave you despite the fact you're playing in a freaking church... don't get me wrong, the kids are *great* and definitely gifted - but there is an understanding of dynamics in spaces that definitely got lost :(

    • @ChrisBakerDrummer
      @ChrisBakerDrummer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jas_bataille I’m thinking just more from the perspective of a week to week consistent sound regardless of drummer that makes life infinitely easier on the FOH person. But yeah, the varying dynamics/playing style of different drummers is a challenge and getting everyone to play appropriately for the room. For sure

  • @boristomakic5995
    @boristomakic5995 ปีที่แล้ว

    When Butch mentioned great headphone mix Nick you should ask him what kind of headphones he uses and why...I think we would like to know

  • @thomasdevino3876
    @thomasdevino3876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to know what Butch uses for in ears and if he uses anything like a porter and davies gigster for Kik drum .

    • @progression_decibel
      @progression_decibel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard P&D thrones are a GAMECHANGER for both electronic and acoustic setups. It’s next on my wish list to purchase.

  • @sandyhanson6082
    @sandyhanson6082 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been thinking about touring with one. Thanks for the video.! Sandy Hanson/ Agent Orange.

    • @GregGallagher
      @GregGallagher ปีที่แล้ว

      Sandy! I’m a huge fan! Love Agent Orange, been trying to get Mike to do interview with me! Maybe you or Perry would be interested in doing an interview? Let me know!

    • @sandyhanson6082
      @sandyhanson6082 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GregGallagher Thanks man! You got it! I'll definitely talk to Mike! I think he would love to do it! I know Perry and myself would definitely be into it!

  • @atomicsun72
    @atomicsun72 ปีที่แล้ว

    Butch, can you talk about touring Australia in 2005 and using packing foam in your toms and snare in your acoustic kit?

  • @Negative.mrb1
    @Negative.mrb1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s awesome been thinking bout going to an electric kit -miking drums and blasting my ears are getting old for home recording

    • @Negative.mrb1
      @Negative.mrb1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Sweetwater you don’t wanna go halfsies on an electric kit would ya? You would make my wife happy 😃

  • @Icedout4real
    @Icedout4real ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so dope!! Butch a Legend

  • @jrm70210
    @jrm70210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Our drummer spent $7k on the new Roland kit, and the hi-hat stopped working in less than a year. He traded it for another acoustic kit, unfortunately 😕

  • @robertnobody
    @robertnobody ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw him use the Roland stuff last year on the Tears for Fears tour, the drums actually sounded a bit weak coming through the P.A. because you're not moving any air on stage like
    you do with acoustic drums. I noticed the same thing with Zac Starkey with The Who, he has an all-electronic kit he has been using since 2019.
    What the drummer hears in his monitor mix doesn't always sound the same in the venue, you could hear a big difference when Jamie Wollam came on with Tears for Fears,
    the drums sounded so much heavier and had way more presence in the P.A. System.

    • @hugoburnham7588
      @hugoburnham7588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Moving the air" has zero effect on what anyone hears from drums that are all mic'ed up and processed through the system - and quite often, triggering sounds.

    • @steveinflorida773
      @steveinflorida773 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, there is a translation lost with e kits. Primarily it is the sound person, they just lower the volume because they can. You have to have a way above average sound man to make them work and still there is something lost vs acoustic. They are a great as a tool in a small location but overall something is really missing that is hard tto explain.

  • @isaac.anthony
    @isaac.anthony ปีที่แล้ว

    LEGEND!

  • @sicproductions7911
    @sicproductions7911 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the ludwig kit?From the electric kits I’ve played on it doesn’t have the recoil bounce like you do on a real kit especially on cymbals. But yeah they are fun to mess with and keep it on the Low but id rather play on that Ludwig kit you mentioned you can’t beat that sound take care sir 🤟🏽🎼🥁✌🏽

  • @malf84
    @malf84 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick, is that your desk?? I’m a huge Ghosthead and seeing the picture behind you and the little Ecto makes me feel like I’m covered in mood slime and listening to Jackie Wilson 😂

  • @jerryhill8281
    @jerryhill8281 ปีที่แล้ว

    When we played WishTV up in Indy, my drummer used my roland kit with SD3, and set the guitarist up with my Quad Cortex, just went direct in and it worked really well. That's how we practice now too and use IEM's.. So much better for rehearsal, and im sure the nieghbors love it.

  • @loveagainstgods5116
    @loveagainstgods5116 ปีที่แล้ว

    ICON 🤘🏻

  • @jerrygamez5723
    @jerrygamez5723 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video

  • @mikegeary8056
    @mikegeary8056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those KILLDOZER records sound great.

    • @bbdeffect
      @bbdeffect ปีที่แล้ว

      I see you are a man of culture.

  • @demonicsweaters
    @demonicsweaters ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very cool

  • @masterguitar8280
    @masterguitar8280 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only problem is - nobody makes an electronic kit large enough for me! I'd have to combine two kits, and possibly work in a third as toms & cymbals...

    • @arbogast4950
      @arbogast4950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could convert an acoustic kit.

    • @carson8417
      @carson8417 ปีที่แล้ว

      Either convert an acoustic kit or look at jobeky, drumtech or the new Roland full size kit

  • @joenaccomusic
    @joenaccomusic ปีที่แล้ว

    I practice on one but record on an acoustic. I can’t play in a live band yet because they still haven’t figured out how to quantize in real time.

    • @djjazzynic
      @djjazzynic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @anwaypradhan6591
    @anwaypradhan6591 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great. Electronic drums are much more dynamic, advanced, matured and pogressive. It's much more reluctant and easy to handle. You gotta make sure that every percussions can be played in that particular electronic drums. You gotta make sure that sound of every percussions can be adjusted, providing good sound effects. You gotta make sure, that, you can even add extra sound effects to that particular rhythm, to make it much more dynamic, fine and sweeter. You gotta develop it,✌️❤️

  • @gori_maheswari8994
    @gori_maheswari8994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice

  • @damnyankeefl
    @damnyankeefl ปีที่แล้ว

    gonna be a great tour this summer. noel's new record is fantastic

  • @Arbigale
    @Arbigale ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Vdrums. As a pro drummer and cruise ship drummer, its ture, however as the traditional music goes, you can apply the drum mindset on any drum, but the feel and fundamentals somehow counters the technique, its like, would buddym steve gadd, etc, the rawness, the grit, etc, thats the only think i see

  • @ChrisKellyDrums
    @ChrisKellyDrums ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn’t be surprised if metal bands starting using e-kits…but I wonder if it would tempt people to just put the drums in the backing track and just mime the songs live.

  • @MagicCyclops
    @MagicCyclops ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @sweetwater /nick - Nice Wesley Willis Dvd’s My friends made Joyrides and I did some incidental Music for it

  • @sbrave
    @sbrave ปีที่แล้ว

    Plz come to Vegas!

    • @danacoleman4007
      @danacoleman4007 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you agree to pay for it, I'll consider it.

  • @richardbelisle4807
    @richardbelisle4807 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank god….best band I’ve ever mixed was all direct….fighting loud drums loud gtrs ect are a sound man’s night mare

  • @Lorneplumber
    @Lorneplumber 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d happily say the garbage I saw were all mining apart
    From Shirley. They sounded good though

  • @bobby_devil
    @bobby_devil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbs up to Nick for repping Wesley Willis.

    • @scottmaaser2389
      @scottmaaser2389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't believe when I saw his face on Nick's desk!

  • @guitarnerd_luke
    @guitarnerd_luke ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am close to not going to live shows anymore...I hate these silent stages. Digital amps, drums...

  • @Bluem00n7
    @Bluem00n7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could go electric but prices are impossible

  • @damnyankeefl
    @damnyankeefl ปีที่แล้ว

    so much depends on the sound guy. last summer I wanted to hear some dynamics out of the cymbals in tampa and they just weren't loud enough. the drums were ok but the whole kit needed to be louder out front. i was bummed because it sounded great. where I was sitting 10th row, I just couldn't hear it the way I wanted to.

  • @davidmcaninch4714
    @davidmcaninch4714 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to Nick’s arm?

  • @StereoAnthony
    @StereoAnthony ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited as a drummer and a sound tech that this is starting to turn a corner! More bands using EDrums!

  • @sogent56
    @sogent56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yamaha ead10

  • @TwoandaHater
    @TwoandaHater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nick- hurt wrist?

  • @saulvera5469
    @saulvera5469 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used my TD17 live just once but sounded awful and super flat, never tried it again, why could that be?

  • @tewslol
    @tewslol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SWEEEEET WATEERRRRRR

  • @drumitar
    @drumitar ปีที่แล้ว

    imagine nirvana with electric drums lol

  • @NikoFrederiko.
    @NikoFrederiko. ปีที่แล้ว

    Coolest of the cool.

  • @ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz
    @ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I imagine he uses a click track all the way through.

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal ปีที่แล้ว

      and....

  • @infinitygasmask
    @infinitygasmask ปีที่แล้ว

    Learn how to set up drums right
    Learn how to mix them right and they will be amazing

  • @helmanfrow
    @helmanfrow ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Electronic drums are cool in principle and they have their place but the sounds they ship with are still unbearably cheesy.

    • @arbogast4950
      @arbogast4950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's funny, the pearl mimic sounds great straight out of the box.

  • @Castlehillmusic
    @Castlehillmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Butch is the man, but for some reason a dead quiet stage & solid state modeling & DI amp setups sounds like the least punk thing ever

  • @paulpedrodrums8164
    @paulpedrodrums8164 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Noooo nooo noooo. Saw them open for Tears for Fears and the electronic drums don’t translate. Butch is obviously brilliant BUT he’s not in the crowd watching. (Especially a musician in the crowd). I get it about stage volume etc but it 100% takes away from the energy of the show. Especially without cymbals. You couldn’t even hear his cymbals

    • @michaelanderson2881
      @michaelanderson2881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're wrong. Unless you are listening to vinyl records or cassettes (or reel to reel tapes), you are listening to SAMPLES, just like the samples in an electronic drum brain. It's all about how they are mixed and effected.

    • @m22110
      @m22110 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@michaelanderson2881 That may be true sometimes but not always. I’ve never heard an electronic kit translate well in a live setting to the point I’m fooled it’s an acoustic kit. I can always tell. And, I will add, I own a TD-30 kit and use it a ton.

    • @m22110
      @m22110 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree in general

    • @damnyankeefl
      @damnyankeefl ปีที่แล้ว

      my experience in tampa as well. I was seriously bummed they didn't bump his kit volume up out front. of course I was 10th row. perhaps the speakers over my head were the problem. with acoustic drums when you are that close you hear them acoustically. e-kits they needed some massive center fill speakers to give the front rows a good drum sound perhaps. I wonder what it sounded like behind me. when I play e-drums with my band I'm using in ears but I bring a speaker to aim at the crowd from my drums...

    • @sliverhandsonbasses
      @sliverhandsonbasses ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, and then you end up loving the massive tone of a giant acoustic drumset who unfortunately turns out to be mostly triggered.

  • @ratkorga2769
    @ratkorga2769 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks but no thanks. Would you ask a pro sax player to go on the road with a wind emulator, or a guitarist play with a synth axe, i think not. Acoustic drums have been utylized live for ages without issue. If you dig it great, most drummers will pass and if i have to explain why its a waste of my time.

  • @autofocus4556
    @autofocus4556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too expensive and out of most peoples’ budget.

  • @Mike_Webb78
    @Mike_Webb78 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No, just no....

  • @ClayDoogun
    @ClayDoogun 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    old head mentality

  • @declanwhite
    @declanwhite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lame

  • @PrinceAsmodeus
    @PrinceAsmodeus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because electronic drums are horrible

  • @PRATERVXEX
    @PRATERVXEX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No thanks, and that’s from a big fan of Roland.

  • @thezogs95
    @thezogs95 ปีที่แล้ว

    No no no you shouldn't do this unless you have your own samples!.. module sounds are total garbage live

  • @waytospergtherebro
    @waytospergtherebro ปีที่แล้ว

    Because Butch Vig is going to over-engineer your real drum kit to the point that it sounds exactly like a Dr. Rhythm anyway so might as well travel light when he's in charge.

    • @bbdeffect
      @bbdeffect ปีที่แล้ว

      Siamese Dream, Experimental Jet Set and Wasting Light have pretty natural sounding drums. Depends what band wants. Nevermind Devonshire mixes also sound much rawer.

  • @superblondeDotOrg
    @superblondeDotOrg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish there were more videos about full electronic drum kits with gritty rock-genre bands. I got a lot of bad advice "electronic drums, that's impossible in rock" many years ago and still today, the traditionalists insist that drums must be acoustic to create a 'real' emotion. Then they end up blowing out everyone's eardrums and causing permanent hearing loss while still saying "it's gotta be played really hard and loud!"

    • @jmasson3272
      @jmasson3272 ปีที่แล้ว

      To me if I can't still experiment that physical sensation where bass and drums are hitting me in the chest, i'm done playing music

    • @superblondeDotOrg
      @superblondeDotOrg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmasson3272 just get a good monitor at your feet and aim it at yourself. you will feel it 1,000%

    • @jmasson3272
      @jmasson3272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superblondeDotOrg So i don't use an amp and a cab to ,then, use a monitor at my feet. Ridiculous

    • @superblondeDotOrg
      @superblondeDotOrg ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmasson3272 you said YOU wanted to feel it in order to play and a monitor will give YOU that. the audience does not need to 'feel it in their chest' (and destroy their hearing). Or, a second option, you could grow up emotionally.

    • @jmasson3272
      @jmasson3272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@superblondeDotOrg 🤭🤦 dude, i think earplugs exist for a reason...Mine are made especially with a db filters but without filtering any frequencies. WE are numerous to appreciate the power of heavy and loud music. I may be an old "children" according to you, but to me, when I play music this physical approach and these sensations with volume are pure joy. If it's too loud for you, it's ok, but if some are not bothered and enjoy this, let 'em enjoy

  • @MrMotherfuck123
    @MrMotherfuck123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Noel is cool ?

  • @muffinman4353
    @muffinman4353 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    All electronic kits are garbage..... Only good for rehearsing.

    • @randrade89
      @randrade89 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No.

    • @FFN166
      @FFN166 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope

    • @greysuit17
      @greysuit17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not at all

  • @rharris0820rh
    @rharris0820rh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Advice from a musician who participates in in a garbage woke musical endeavor is null and void. He's dead to me.

  • @aaronliebelt4347
    @aaronliebelt4347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lame