In small venues, a ekit is a must. It tightens everything up. If your able to convince the guitar/ bass players to use a (DI) helix, fractal, kemper, etc. then your really on to something. Then loose the wedges, or monitors and get everyone to use IEMs, your audience will compliment your sound, and you have 0-10 volume control. I’m a drummer and it’s the only way I would agree to be in the band.
Felt tipped drumsticks are a terrible suggestion. Most electronic drums that will be gigged are are going to have mesh drum heads. The felt tip on a mesh head will wear out that head so much faster.
my son has played electric drums only for the last 6 years he doesn't have access to an acoustic kit , i was able to organise through a friend for him try an acoustic kit and he said it doesn,t feel natural and they are loud and overbearing and tuning was awful , thats straight from someone who never played real drums
I use a ddrum hybrid kit that looks like a gorgeous acoustic kit, but it has built-in triggers and 3-ply mesh heads on it which feel very very close to acoustic heads. I use Steven Slate Drums 5 and it sounds incredible. I also use acoustic cymbals. Best of both worlds
Any felt tip or beater will eat through mesh heads. I have a Roland VAD kit and the triple mesh heads gives me a close to acoustic response. I feel no difference playing home than using an acoustic kit every week. I actually wish we would use the VAD Kit at church live because not every volunteer is a sound engineer these new kits are almost fool proof
One thing that needs to be said is electronic drum modules add room ambiance when playing samples, this sounds great on headphones, but they could sound really bad when played through a speaker BECAUSE that added artificial drum ambience will be fighting the real drum ambience. Luckily there is a simple fix, turn down or turn off room ambiance, adjust the pads individually to the room so that nothing is too high or too low. The PA not being able to reproduce acoustic cymbal nuances... What kind of shitty Pa do you use? I have never had that problem, Also I have played gigs for over 35 years with both acoustic and electronic kits, nobody ever said they wish I had an acoustic kit when I used the electronic or that it sounded bad, on the contrary, they asked me how I was able to achieve such a great sound, they asked a lot of questions and I'm sure I converted some of them into e-drum believers. Roland TD -27 and TD-50 have come a long way with the digital pads. Don't use wood tip sticks use light sticks, don't use a felt pedal beater on mesh pads...yes use a wedge monitor to have that natural stage sound.
Hi, just wondering if you have ever put together a set up guide or a tricks and tips guide for live playing? I would definitely be interested in paying for your knowledge. I should be having my first band practice next week and have never set up to a PA for live playing. I'm playing a TD17KVX and I have purchased a 30 watt monitor. We have access to a PA thanks
You mention volume control, but to get more specific - STAGE volume. With accoustic drums the bassist and guitarist turn up to hear themselves and the combination of all that goes into the vocal mics (singers being at the front, mics stoned back) and makes mud out of a mix. Keeping stage volume down (add IEM) means way better quality of sound out front.
Having played edums live for over 30 years this video seems a bit amiss. Modern edrums feel pretty much the same as acoustic drums. Actually take a while to set up. Minus the sound check. And using stereo outs is not going to cut it in a band. Get a set with multi outs if you play live.
I think the cymbals are almost the entire reason you'd want an Ekit. That and the snare drum. Have you ever thought or heard anyone say "The floor tom is too loud and ruining the mix," not once.
Playing for 60+ years. Use both acoustic and edrums. On point #1, you can “tune” (tighten/loosen) edrum heads for a natural feel, so that point is moot. On point #2, you can “dress up” any edrum set with shells ( they can be plastic with a veneer, as they do NOTHING for the sound quality, as shells on acoustic kits are what MAKES them produce notes). Appearance point is moot.
I disagree, tired of bartenders, managers, owners, people leaving bars because band is too loud. I play hard and my drums are not quiet. My edrums at the smaller bars may be an option.
Felt tip is a big NO NO for mesh heads, including felt beater for kick mesh
When I was playing in Vegas, I set up a bass drum in front of my edrum bass drum specifically so it would look cool..
Cool trick😂
In small venues, a ekit is a must. It tightens everything up. If your able to convince the guitar/ bass players to use a (DI) helix, fractal, kemper, etc. then your really on to something. Then loose the wedges, or monitors and get everyone to use IEMs, your audience will compliment your sound, and you have 0-10 volume control. I’m a drummer and it’s the only way I would agree to be in the band.
Felt tipped drumsticks are a terrible suggestion. Most electronic drums that will be gigged are are going to have mesh drum heads. The felt tip on a mesh head will wear out that head so much faster.
my son has played electric drums only for the last 6 years he doesn't have access to an acoustic kit , i was able to organise through a friend for him try an acoustic kit and he said it doesn,t feel natural and they are loud and overbearing and tuning was awful , thats straight from someone who never played real drums
I use a ddrum hybrid kit that looks like a gorgeous acoustic kit, but it has built-in triggers and 3-ply mesh heads on it which feel very very close to acoustic heads. I use Steven Slate Drums 5 and it sounds incredible. I also use acoustic cymbals. Best of both worlds
Efnote 7 pulls off the look ...and they feel right too 🙂
Acoustic is KING
Any felt tip or beater will eat through mesh heads. I have a Roland VAD kit and the triple mesh heads gives me a close to acoustic response. I feel no difference playing home than using an acoustic kit every week. I actually wish we would use the VAD Kit at church live because not every volunteer is a sound engineer these new kits are almost fool proof
One thing that needs to be said is electronic drum modules add room ambiance when playing samples, this sounds great on headphones, but they could sound really bad when played through a speaker BECAUSE that added artificial drum ambience will be fighting the real drum ambience. Luckily there is a simple fix, turn down or turn off room ambiance, adjust the pads individually to the room so that nothing is too high or too low. The PA not being able to reproduce acoustic cymbal nuances... What kind of shitty Pa do you use? I have never had that problem, Also I have played gigs for over 35 years with both acoustic and electronic kits, nobody ever said they wish I had an acoustic kit when I used the electronic or that it sounded bad, on the contrary, they asked me how I was able to achieve such a great sound, they asked a lot of questions and I'm sure I converted some of them into e-drum believers.
Roland TD -27 and TD-50 have come a long way with the digital pads. Don't use wood tip sticks use light sticks, don't use a felt pedal beater on mesh pads...yes use a wedge monitor to have that natural stage sound.
Hi, just wondering if you have ever put together a set up guide or a tricks and tips guide for live playing?
I would definitely be interested in paying for your knowledge.
I should be having my first band practice next week and have never set up to a PA for live playing.
I'm playing a TD17KVX and I have purchased a 30 watt monitor. We have access to a PA
thanks
You mention volume control, but to get more specific - STAGE volume. With accoustic drums the bassist and guitarist turn up to hear themselves and the combination of all that goes into the vocal mics (singers being at the front, mics stoned back) and makes mud out of a mix. Keeping stage volume down (add IEM) means way better quality of sound out front.
Having played edums live for over 30 years this video seems a bit amiss. Modern edrums feel pretty much the same as acoustic drums. Actually take a while to set up. Minus the sound check. And using stereo outs is not going to cut it in a band. Get a set with multi outs if you play live.
the rolands arent sampled they are synthesized sounds
I’m gonna experiment with electric drums and my real cymbals what do you think
I think the cymbals are almost the entire reason you'd want an Ekit. That and the snare drum. Have you ever thought or heard anyone say "The floor tom is too loud and ruining the mix," not once.
edrums are also Nice when everyone Plays with inears in the band. You don’t need wedges
Felt drum sticks?? Never heard of them apart from Percussion beaters.. None On Amazon.. mmm. Not convinced
Playing for 60+ years. Use both acoustic and edrums. On point #1, you can “tune” (tighten/loosen) edrum heads for a natural feel, so that point is moot. On point #2, you can “dress up” any edrum set with shells ( they can be plastic with a veneer, as they do NOTHING for the sound quality, as shells on acoustic kits are what MAKES them produce notes). Appearance point is moot.
Buy a Roland VAD 507. Then make another video.
0:55 because electronic drums suck.
No self respecting drummer would use that crap in a serious situation.
I disagree, tired of bartenders, managers, owners, people leaving bars because band is too loud. I play hard and my drums are not quiet. My edrums at the smaller bars may be an option.
@@Dozereyes "i play hard"
Theres your problem right there.