Something that should have been mentioned is that some units can apparently have slightly more or less Mura than others but every headset will have some of course. I think the biggest difference is how much people actually notice it. IMO and experience from friends: the more time you have spent in VR (specifically PCVR like Index) the more likely you are to notice it. Much love! Join up in the discord! Discord.gg/thrill
With today's technology on lenses and panels, mura will be present for all VR headsets at some degree. Some people are more sensitive to it than others. Some aren't bothered by it as much. Hopefully the technology gets better in the future. Most people who are used to VR already know about this and are accustomed to it already. Most VR newbies will probably notice it and it just depends on how sensitive they are to it.
I agree with you. I think because you are so immersed in PCVR, going from that to PSVR may almost be a downgrade in your eyes. For me, I love the PSVR2! But then again, I’ve never played PCVR before :(
my psvr 1 had mura on only half of one eye, and the whole other eye. always wondered if it was a defect, worse on mine than others. 3/4 of my FOV had mura
@@battlefieldclips7013 little IRL specks floating around when you move your eyes. It affects a bunch of people - if you don’t have them, count yourself lucky 😁
I feel like most reviews, including this one, overlook how simple and great the IPD adjustment and eye tracking process is. As someone who occasionally has friends/fam/gf over for shared VR gaming experiences, it is great to know that we can all visibly check the placement of their eyes and tracking accuracy with just a couple of button presses. No more guesstimating and taking the headset off to adjust (Quest 2) a measly 3 settings. Now we can visually confirm the optimal IPD and tracking without the user taking off the headset and easily make minor adjustments without much interruption. Also, not needing to buy / set up bay stations is great. Great review though, as always. I'm pretty happy with my PS VR2, and was also bothered by the mura - though thankfully got over it quickly; and friends don't even really notice. The only major thing holding this headset back IMO is lack of PC compatibility. I'd gladly put away my Quest 2 for good, or sell it - if it had Steam VR support. One can only hope there will be a day.
@DrAnimePhD Crazy right! Thought modders might figure it out at some point but the fact that Playstation themselves announced some sort of PC solution for this year is HUGE! Can't wait! 🍻
This is one of your best and (bizarrely) introspective videos. Your passion and obviously joy in what you do & in VR in general is admirable. I run a PC and a Quest 2 currently & honestly, your unadulterated joy in aspects of this console setup in terms of the experience, makes me want to go out and spend the 1000 units of currency. For me as a 52 year old fella and my 10 year son it seems like something incredibly accessible and fun.
@@dcptiv I had a mate do the same thing with quest 2 though, VR often impresses people on first try as they have only heard the bad things.. he got a link cable and all these games on day 1, don't even thinnk he played half of them before it wound up in the drawer after a week.. although he did a similar thing after using my drone for 5 mins.. thinking i should just rent my toys to him for a week and save us both some money :P ... am getting keen for this though as love oled since getting them for tv and pc so would be hard to go back to Q2 now...
To be honest, I have a 3080 with a quest 2 and I am really happy with it. However, today my psvr2 arrived and I must say that I prefer the psvr because of my own preferences: Oled, Fov, Vibration/adaptive trigger and eye tracking… I also love the fact that it’s just plug and play and works 100% (so far… haha) without the infinite adjustments I have to make with the pcvr
I am on RTX3060 and I don't have to make "infinite adjustments", except playing with a few graphics options. Yours sounds like one giant BS statement. PCVR is somehow worse because of "infinite adjustments"? Get the f out of here!
@Random_4U bro, I'm yet to be bothered or notice the "mura" ..people say things and the sheep herd follows suit and brings things up to no end..its seriously a non-issue and isn't even present if you ask me.
no man's sky on PC? launch oculus, link headset, launch steamvr (and whatever other apps you normally use with it like OVRAS and overlays), close all the trash apps bogging down performance, then launch no man's sky no man's sky on psvr? connect headset, launch no man's sky psvr2 is probably a better starter headset than quest in my opinion (especially for those not as technically inclined) for the simplicity alone ngl
This has gotta be another massive step into mainstream VR, along the lines of Quest 2 and the Index. I don't own one, nor a PS5 but I can't deny how awesome this is.
@@ekspatriat Are you certain about that? VR is niche for certain, and coming from daily driving a Varjo Aero, I can understand how technology wise we haven't made much progress recently. But take this, the Quest 2 put VR onto the map for most people and made the market a LOT bigger. Now we have Sony making a viable option for regular consoles. More eyes on VR, more people seeing what's happening, more companies who might want to get in on this. I say "Mainstream VR" for a very specific and literal reason It's a big step in making VR more _mainstream_ . Also with games like Rec Room, VRChat, BeatSaber, and other titles raking in well in excess of a billion dollars a year I wouldn't call VR unimportant, just unadopted.
@@VaalkinTheOnly When PS5 buyers mostly have done this as the biggest leisure purchase they will make, they will NOT pay much more than that purchase just for VR...It's too far! I bought Quest 2 JUST for HL Alyx and PSVR 2 JUST for HZD. That is because in gaming there aint much else! VR has promised for many years it just has not delivered to the masses.
@@ekspatriat Maybe give the headset a year or two...the thing is only been out for 1 week for crying out loud haha....And in that 1 week it has already brought 2 more exclusive AAA games than valve has done in 4 years! I am certain Sony got us covered, they are doing their part time for us gamers to do our part. And not only focus on minor issues.
The PS VR2 made the PS5 worth it for me. I absolutely love my vr kit! Pavlov, GT7 and RE:8 make it worth the price of admission imo. Everything else is just the cherry on top :D Set up is super easy, plug and play, basically no loading times so my adhd brain can just switch between experiences like its nothing, its comfortable AF, the tracking is flawless for me, the controllers are GREAT with the adaptive triggers and the haptics in the headset and senses, the graphics and performance are miles above my quest 2 on my 2080 super. The thing has rekindled my love for gaming.
Fighting words adding Pavlov into that list there, given how the PSVR release completely killed the game on PC. All those years of modding, down the drain.
Eye tracking seems really fun. I’ve been thinking about modding the Index since there’s that one community project with both software and hardware (it even has 3D printed stuff too) that gives the Index eye tracking support. If I end up making my Index look like a bomb, eh, whatever.
Unfortunately i doubt you'll find many PC games with the eye tracking game design features since devs won't implement stuff like that for such a tiny fraction of the market compared to a standardized platform, unless they port the PS versions. Foveated rendering should be pretty awesome though (does that require game support or is it driver level?)
@@joos3D eye tracking is implemented at a hardware/software level, but it’s up to the games to include it or how to use it. Horizon uses it for rendering while firewall ultra uses it to chose weapons in menu
Unfortunately Valve is literally responsible for holding back eye tracking, their OpenXR beta doesn't support it, it's like having OpenXR without openXR, it's only meant to allow games developed to run on OpenXR to use steamVR, and all the idiot developers use it.
Excellent review! It's a realistic headset for the price compared to more expensive headsets - Cas and Chary called it a "perfect compromise" - but Sony has to keep the AAA bangers coming
I loved all the Sony titles for OGPSVR, Farpoint with the AIM controller and 3D-printed buttstock in co-op story mode online was just the most amazing VR experience I've had to this date still. I'm always hoping a new game will get me to that place again, like a junkie getting his next VR fix lol
At least don’t tell me your another index worshipper treating it as the holy grail. I have both the index and psvr2 and overall I far prefer the latter. I don’t know why people still sing the indexes praises constantly.
@@jakkudemoff3043 Yeah well I’ve had comfort issues with my index for some reason even though everyone else says it’s one of the most comfortable headsets so I barely ever use it. After 4 years the index definitely needs to be reduced in price but unfortunately it still hasn’t simply because no real reputable companies have produced high end pc-vr headsets over the past few years. I just get annoyed to see people still praising the index so much just because it’s valve when in reality it’s now overpriced outdated hardware.
@@tomstacey1103 that's a shame to hear because all I hear is praise too but I'm loving psvr 2 - the amazing lighting and blacks with the incredible headset and controller haptics and I'm sold on dealing with mura and persistence issues
I've found that the PSVR2 is for sure a good headset. The biggest drawback honestly is the mura but like Thrill mentioned you can get over it and its not always game breaking. I feel the best reasons to invest in the PSVR2 is for the haptics, adaptive triggers, oled screen, and potential VR game support. I personally was already sold after seeing how gorgeous resident evil 8 feels in it. I've also started playing Pavlov again and haven't had that much fun in that game in a very long time. From what I've noticed with VR veterans is that it does reignite that VR excitement and has done so for me. If you have the cash I think its a good investment while waiting for the VR market to get itself together and pull all the good pieces from all current headsets together into one.
I'm sure I'd get used to the mura quickly. So that's not even its biggest flaw. Its biggest flaw is the lack of PC support! Sony would make their ROI and even profit in NO TIME if it were PC compatible.
Yeah it would be nice to have PC support, Sony definitely wants you to buy their software to recoup the cost. I personally don't mind if it shows other businesses that VR is profitable and encourages them to release other headsets.
The biggest drawback of psvr2 isn't the headset imo, it's the console itself. Luckily an adapter for PC is coming soon. I expect when people super sample the resolution of their games on PC like we do with every other headset, it will show what the headset can do. I mean, don't buy it for pc obviously, even with the adapter, there's no support so chances are it can stop working with pc anytime, plus there's better things around that price, and even if they don't come with foveated rendering, you can put an addon later (yes even in the bigscreen beyond you can fit it in). But if you already have one and a PC I'd try it just to see the difference. It would be cool if the PS5 Pro could push gt7 and other games to at least 90 fixed fps to avoid the reprojection and have a smoother feeling but didn't happen with psvr1 won't happen here either
That "Grainy filter" Effect is exactly why I got rid of my Vive Pro. I didn't mind the Screen Door Effect, but the Mura thing really pulled me out of the immersion... and I went back to my index.
I'm hoping this'll nudge game development further in VR. Because the PS5 is a PC with the same specs as a PC (AMD CPU and GPU, X86 architecture unlike older generations), so if games are coded to work with the PS5VR, it could be possible to also have VR support for the same games on PC.
i hope they let the indie dev to work on psvr2, if they didn't have enough money to make VR game. just let the community explore all of the amazing psvr2 Functionality and create a Great game.
PSVR1 had an extremely similar screen issue. So glad they made it a lot easier to connect. The first one was kinda complicated with co-processor connections and stuff.
Very sensible and (as usual) in depth review, Thrill. Hope you'll have reason to do an update in 6 months to a year because the quality and quantity of the library has caught up with the headset. I will say, though my usual motto is, "Never try anything new; let someone else try it first, and see if it kills them," this is the first VR headset I've actually gone full "early adopter" on by pre-ordering.
the psvr2 is a great step forward with the eye adjustment but not everyone's eyes are symmetrical I wish both lens were adjustable separately (up and down also ) so you can get the perfect sweet spot.. heck it would be awesome if they could auto adjust for you every time you put it on. it already tracks the center of you eye
I’ve played over 10 different games on my PSVR 2 headset and haven’t had any issues with mura affecting my experience. When consciously looking for it, it was extremely faint and not near as bad as the example video you gave. After I noticed it and began focusing on the game world instead of nearly crossing my eyes to find the mura, I have never seen it again. I’d imagine it would vary from headset to headset, but mine is not an issue at all.
I don't mind the grainy image, given all of the features that the PSVR2 has. VR for me over the last 6 years has been accepting compromise. First with the screen door affect on the Vive and Vive Pro. Then the HP Reverb G2 it was a limited max IPD, which was just too small for me, and Windows Mixed Reality (horrible). The Vive Pro 2 was dissapointing, compaired to the older Vive's, they reduced the max IPD from 74mm to 70mm, the lens sweet spot was too small, all of this made it useless for me. Now I use a Pimax 8KX, which is just big and still has some very small screen door affect, is fiddily to set up, but otherwise is fantastic.
Mura is annoying but ghosting really hurts my experience with Resident Evil. GT7 plays and looks great. Don't lower brightness as some youtubers are recommending. When the headlights of the car behind you lights up b your cabin it is one of the coolest things I have seen in VR
My Thrustmaster T300 + Wheel Stand Pro V2 + IKEA Poäng are very happy with this 💟 Already ordered slap-on subscribtion lenses at an VR Optician so I don't have to wear glasses or contacts. Amazing times we live in!
I agree with your review. It annoyed me to notice how much mura was noticeable.... and then I got over it. The crazy small sweet spot an god rays are also annoying but I am having such a blast with a lot of games that I got over those too. Games like GT7, Horizon, Pistol whip, Les Mills, Drums Rock and Zombieland, to name a few, are simply fantastic on this headset. I even enjoy After the Fall now that we have joysticks. It was simply unplayable with the move controllers.
My biggest gripe with the PSVR2 are the blurry edges. The mura-effect can be lessened by turning down the brightness a bit, but my god those blurry edges makes cinematic mode unusable for me. Luckily I don't notice it that much in VR-mode
My first VR experience and aside from the eye strain I get after an hour or two it's pretty good, for the mura I suggest turning the way down brightness, in Horizon it's almost completely got rid of it (not sure how it isn't in other games because I've just got Horizon rn) so just go in and out of setting adjusting the brightness till you get that sweet spot and you're set
I just watched a video earlier of a VR reviewer that really kinda fixed the Mura issue. They had green filter sunglasses and putting those on eliminates the Mura effect almost completely. It darkens the image too and changes the color balance somewhat but I don't know how much but they said any game like resi evil where the Mura is terrible becomes completely playable again without any mura effect. The oled panels have more green elements than the other colours and adding a green filter reduces the green intensity which seems to fix the issue. I think we need people investigating this with different filters at different strengths to find a sweet spot that minimises loss of light while maximising reducing mura then make some kind of snap on lens product for the headset. Or maybe Sony themselves could add a fix for this and reduce that in software. Also game developers who are aware of this issue could balance the colors themselves to help with this. Its something I think should be investigated for those who are doing things like considering or returning their headset because of Mura bothering them so much. It may help them enormously. I haven't tried any of this, I'm just passing on info from another youtuber. Their channel is ALTVR for anyone wanting to go watch their video about it.
I've been playing for a week and I can honestly say I haven't noticed what you describe as mura. I hope I don't start noticing it now! My only slight complaint about the display is that you often have to fiddle with it to get the picture sharp,. The Oled screen is so good though that it hasn't bothered me. I'm used to the Quest 2 and this is so much better I'm just going to sell it.
lack of a pancake lens is the biggest mistake of this headset. After using the Q3 for PCVR you can see how amazingly clear pancake lens makes the image.
thank you so much for this review, theres so many hollow reviews of the PSVR2 out there, it feels like this is the most complete and true one. for instance, this is the first time i ever see a review talk about this mura effect.
Didn't expect to see my Reddit post on here. Haha. I'm happy to report that while the controllers are sometimes awkward and do cause some hand fatigue in certain games (especially if you have to continuously hold in the grip buttons while walking around with the thumbsticks), at least it's still playable. I played Pavlov for 45 minutes yesterday, and my hands ached by the end, but that's my fault because I refuse to use toggle grip for the guns. It throws off my reloading if I do. Edit 2: I played Pavlov for 3 hours today and by 2 hours in my hands were killing me. I kept dropping guns etc… I’m going to tweet at them to see if they can add hybrid grip like RE8 has.
The PSVR original had that Mura effect as well - and when I switched up to PCVR, the Reverb G2, I really - really did not miss the color richness and deep black levels nearly as much as I was glad to be rid of the Mura. Until the PSVR2, I wasn't even aware this was a wider problem in OLED screens. My only experience with OLED before was the PSVita - which had an absolutely gorgeous display. I had just figured the PSVR used sub-standard low-quality screens. Now I'm reconsidering my purchase of a PSVR2 pending release of PC official/community drivers. I still really like the single-wire interface and eye-tracking in a mass-market headset, but it's really not much of an upgrade compared to my current headset... and a downgrade in many areas. I guess it's really just a waiting game to see what Valve announces with the Deckard, but all indications so far seem to point to it being more of a Meta competitor, rather than an Index upgrade.
I like the colors and the blacks, but despite its screen resolution, the angle coverage is too large in the lenses, so it's even more pixelated than a Quest 2.
I love pretty much everything about this headset, besides the reprojection in the games I've tried so far. It's almost a deal breaker for me. Anyone know if this can be corrected in software or firmware updates? Also my right controller has to be reset upon every startup of a game, so that's an annoyance.
They're using a system similar to SteamVR or ASW on PC which is terrible. They should have built a system like AppSW on Quest that actually works. Without getting into the technical details, this would require more work from game devs but would have eliminated all the issues people are having. Making the change now would require the games to all be patched.
I would love to see an in depth video about PSVR2 on PC, now that the official PC adaptor is available. It ads a lot of value, but loses some awesome features.
Next PC headset should take all good things from PSVR2... It is my 1st ever VR platform... and honestly I play GT7 every day now... Eye tracking and fov rendering is a game changer, fact that game like GT7 with full grid of cars, all rain and stuff effects runs flawlessly on PS5 in VR is mind blowing.
I think you missed one thing that personally has me still considering a PS5 + PSVR2... The thing that blew me away with the Quest/ Quest 2 was the "power on and play" factor. Not sure if that makes sense. I'm a PC VR user since the original vive and love PC VR. However, being able to just turn the thing on and get right into VR without any messing around with all the typical PC VR quirks (you know what I mean) was a breath of fresh air. My wife, who is not tech savvy, actually started venturing into VR games by herself on the Quest 2 because it was so easy. To me PSVR 2 might be the best of both worlds. Quick, easy start up but also beautiful visuals. What do you think? Edit: Spelling lol
I'm honestly waiting for a version 2 like the OG headset, and a price drop to 450-500, & a better library. 5 games doesn't cut it for me when there's no Steam access or PSVR backwards compatibility
If either through community action or sony action this gets support for pcvr i can see this headset becoming a dominant contender but i dont see anyone choosing this over a pcvr setup if they dont already own the playstation
Weird, the Mura effect doesn't bother me at all, it's super subtle except for some scenarios, and even then if you don't look for it, it's a non-issue. My only "disappointment" so far has been the graphical fidelity of the games. Not the display, mind you - some less demanding or well-tuned games like Song in the Smoke look SUPER crisp. But then you have RE8 which yes, looks really good in terms of textures, models and effects. But... the resolution can get really low. I think they use some kind of dynamic resolution so there are times when I'm like this is great! But more often than not you see something that looks straight from PSVR1, low-res and lots of jaggies and shimmering which detracts from the otherwise great graphics. Hopefully as time goes on developers will learn to better utilise the foveated rendering and we get AAA games running at native resolution
Did you put the midroll ad at the very top of the grainy rant explosion cause that's funny as hell. Its the worst i can't not see it IS SO BAD AND RUINS IMMERSION I CAN'T HANDLE IT AHHHHHHHH!!.... backroom are the most renovated rooms for new home buyers, sometimes it's hard to know where to start! So funny lol
So was this the first time you’ve played Rez then? Unrelated, but I’d love to hear any kind of extended thoughts on the game lol. Also if you haven’t seen it already, Humanity looks real cool. It’s being published by the same studio. I find I really enjoy vr games where you’re not in first person
If being binaural (blurry or perfect) it is blurry due to the Fn film they put on the lens modules to mask the SDE due to the pentile diodes. Read up on it! Same res OLED has a lot more screen door than the same res LCD. This stands out in VR due to the distance.
GT7 in Vr is so realistic. All your real life driving instincts kick in. You have to use your head to look in the mirrors and use real spatial awareness when overtaking as everything is in full 3d at life size scale. It's a stunning experience and far more like real life driving than sitting on a sofa playing a game. If you love racing you need to try this.
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So to my understanding every VR headset has mura, but PSVR 1 and 2 suffer more because of the OLED lenses on both, but the OLED gives a clearer display
Exactly my issue with the PSVR2. You probably already spoke with Panda about it. But yeah, the grain is obnoxious. Any PCVR enthusiast will notice this right away.
Anyone that suffer Mura do this .... I have experience it on resident evil village and after the fall.... just turn down the brightness by 30 to 40 % and the Mura disappears and those games look so dame good ... I get no more Mura so please try and be blown away…. Thrill seeker is the man
I'm using a Rift CV1 and I notice the mura every time I log in, but then I start doing something and it seems to go away. It shows up next time so I know it doesn't actually go away.
I already have a Quest 2. But I did pick up this headset. I did instantly notice the mura, but I can get over it. It's not noticeable to me when actively playing a game. So that's good. I really like it. I haven't touched my Quest in a week. I am actually considering selling it off. As I'm not super interested in Meta's plans. However, I am holding off for now to see where this PSVR2 is going. I am very happy with it, but it's future is a question mark. As long as the game library grows sufficiently, I'll be happy. There's enough to keep busy for now, but they need to get new games out fast. Be that ports, hybrids, or new. Beat Saber is coming thankfully. That's my favorite VR game, and it's kind of weird that it's not there already given how popular it is.
Hey thrill, what IR light do you use for your room?? Ive been looking on Amazon but afraid to buy an IR light I’ll find worthless (which sadly I have to admit…I already have). Id love to play in the dark once again!
My first VR experience was with the original PSVR. For any potential first time VR users the MERA effect shouldn't be a problem like he stated in the video. The first PSVR had a major screen door effect & I initially noticed it. Then my mind just deleted it & I was shocked at how much I was immersed into games. I didn't realize how prominent the screen door effect was until I purchased a VR headset for my PC. I think that if this is your first VR experience it will be a really good one. The system just needs a bigger library which should come. Just know that high quality graphics are nice but in a VR environment your mind will fill in the "blanks" even in very simple blocky games. Reminds me of the Matrix quote the mind makes it real.
Thrill, which steering wheel are you using for Gran Turismo 7? I really want to get into it, but I want a great steering wheel for it before I dive in.
To be fair on build quality, i think a bit of flex and squish is better than not. Ive seen way too many Oculus controllers broken because they're solid so one point of contact can shatter the ring, whereas if there was some give and squish to it, it'd absorb impact better.
But I agree. PSVR2 is cool tech, but its too expensive for an entry into VR for console owners, as they already have the stuff to drive it. But Quest exists, and is cheaper, and works with a PC, or by itself, and isn't nearly as restricted in game ecosystem.
I didn't know that in a horror game, when you blink, they can use that to make the scene changed. Then I totally realized that someone could make a Weeping Angel Doctor Who experience. Every time you blink, the angels get closer to you. If done right, it could be a terrifying experience! I really hope the Valve Index 2 has eye tracking. It adds so much more possibilities with VR. From Foveated rendering, which will help increase frame-rates, To using the eyes as an input device, to creating crazy scary games that use your blinks to make a scary game totally terrifying!
The original Oculus Rift CV1 used OLED panels, right? Did it have the same issue? Maybe it was masked by the screen door effect from the low pixel density, but I don't remember the Mura there. I'm not sure why this is an issue with all OLEDs. I suspect over time that this can be fixed in future OLED display panels.
About the earbuds! You say these are terrible? I found them to be pretty good. Especially the bass response is surprisingly good, I had a very immersive experience with them. Very lightweight, not intrusive, I don't even feel them. Maybe my version is a newer one!?
Hey Thrill good video, I'm commenting to ask if you'd please make a video on if the valve index is still worth it in 2023? I'm getting one myself as I've recently gained a lot of wealth to spend, and figured i'd splurge on VR as I love it very much, I currently have used a rift s (when it released) and then upgraded to a quest 2 and thats what i've been using, seeing as you've used the index more than anyone else on the planet i'd love to know your thoughts, espessically with the deckard already getting leaks.
I have a skinny face and my biggest problem is that the lenses don't get close enough to each other. Even on the lowest setting, it still leaves my eyes just outside the sweet spot.
Wish Thrill had done a bit more research , the Mura seems to greatly vary between different units , some people saying it is almost impossible to notice , to others (like thrill) saying it it incredibly noticeable
Something that should have been mentioned is that some units can apparently have slightly more or less Mura than others but every headset will have some of course. I think the biggest difference is how much people actually notice it. IMO and experience from friends: the more time you have spent in VR (specifically PCVR like Index) the more likely you are to notice it.
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With today's technology on lenses and panels, mura will be present for all VR headsets at some degree. Some people are more sensitive to it than others. Some aren't bothered by it as much.
Hopefully the technology gets better in the future. Most people who are used to VR already know about this and are accustomed to it already. Most VR newbies will probably notice it and it just depends on how sensitive they are to it.
I hated my PS VR2 because of this granularity in the image and it also feels blurry. I also thought mine had come out defective, unbelievable...
Also once I noticed this granularity, now my motion sickness got worse. Any PC VR you recommend for someone with motion sickness?
I agree with you. I think because you are so immersed in PCVR, going from that to PSVR may almost be a downgrade in your eyes. For me, I love the PSVR2! But then again, I’ve never played PCVR before :(
my psvr 1 had mura on only half of one eye, and the whole other eye.
always wondered if it was a defect, worse on mine than others. 3/4 of my FOV had mura
They even added floaters to virtual reality. Truly the most immersive experience.
What’s floaters?
@@battlefieldclips7013 little IRL specks floating around when you move your eyes. It affects a bunch of people - if you don’t have them, count yourself lucky 😁
@@Tony_Baloney_ if you have them you are not drinking enough water, simple fix.
Nah having the psvr2 wtf they added is vaseline in my eye balls and blur,maybe its immersive if you have cataracts.
@@PandaGamingPodcast yeah he told on his dehydrated ass lol
I feel like most reviews, including this one, overlook how simple and great the IPD adjustment and eye tracking process is. As someone who occasionally has friends/fam/gf over for shared VR gaming experiences, it is great to know that we can all visibly check the placement of their eyes and tracking accuracy with just a couple of button presses. No more guesstimating and taking the headset off to adjust (Quest 2) a measly 3 settings.
Now we can visually confirm the optimal IPD and tracking without the user taking off the headset and easily make minor adjustments without much interruption. Also, not needing to buy / set up bay stations is great. Great review though, as always. I'm pretty happy with my PS VR2, and was also bothered by the mura - though thankfully got over it quickly; and friends don't even really notice.
The only major thing holding this headset back IMO is lack of PC compatibility. I'd gladly put away my Quest 2 for good, or sell it - if it had Steam VR support. One can only hope there will be a day.
Well that day is here. Sony just announced they’re working on PC support for PSVR2
@DrAnimePhD Crazy right! Thought modders might figure it out at some point but the fact that Playstation themselves announced some sort of PC solution for this year is HUGE! Can't wait! 🍻
@etic I just hope the PSVR2 will work on Linux since I'm a Linux user
This is one of your best and (bizarrely) introspective videos. Your passion and obviously joy in what you do & in VR in general is admirable. I run a PC and a Quest 2 currently & honestly, your unadulterated joy in aspects of this console setup in terms of the experience, makes me want to go out and spend the 1000 units of currency. For me as a 52 year old fella and my 10 year son it seems like something incredibly accessible and fun.
Hey thank you so much! Put a lot of extra work into this one. Was kind of stressful fitting it all into one video!
@@ThrillSeekerVR it shows brother. Thanks
I took mine over to show a mate & after using it for under 5min he left to go buy a PS5 & VR2.
@@dcptiv I had a mate do the same thing with quest 2 though, VR often impresses people on first try as they have only heard the bad things.. he got a link cable and all these games on day 1, don't even thinnk he played half of them before it wound up in the drawer after a week.. although he did a similar thing after using my drone for 5 mins.. thinking i should just rent my toys to him for a week and save us both some money :P ... am getting keen for this though as love oled since getting them for tv and pc so would be hard to go back to Q2 now...
The other factor is how expensive the games are compared to PC
To be honest, I have a 3080 with a quest 2 and I am really happy with it. However, today my psvr2 arrived and I must say that I prefer the psvr because of my own preferences: Oled, Fov, Vibration/adaptive trigger and eye tracking… I also love the fact that it’s just plug and play and works 100% (so far… haha) without the infinite adjustments I have to make with the pcvr
The pc is doing my head in, something always goes wrong. I am thinking of getting it, just for the simplicity.
Does the Mura bother you?
I am on RTX3060 and I don't have to make "infinite adjustments", except playing with a few graphics options. Yours sounds like one giant BS statement. PCVR is somehow worse because of "infinite adjustments"? Get the f out of here!
@Random_4U bro, I'm yet to be bothered or notice the "mura" ..people say things and the sheep herd follows suit and brings things up to no end..its seriously a non-issue and isn't even present if you ask me.
no man's sky on PC? launch oculus, link headset, launch steamvr (and whatever other apps you normally use with it like OVRAS and overlays), close all the trash apps bogging down performance, then launch no man's sky
no man's sky on psvr? connect headset, launch no man's sky
psvr2 is probably a better starter headset than quest in my opinion (especially for those not as technically inclined) for the simplicity alone ngl
This has gotta be another massive step into mainstream VR, along the lines of Quest 2 and the Index. I don't own one, nor a PS5 but I can't deny how awesome this is.
I've got a Quest 2 and a PSVR 2. VR has not taken any massive steps. It is still so fringe as to be still unimportant in gaming.
@@ekspatriat Are you certain about that?
VR is niche for certain, and coming from daily driving a Varjo Aero, I can understand how technology wise we haven't made much progress recently. But take this, the Quest 2 put VR onto the map for most people and made the market a LOT bigger. Now we have Sony making a viable option for regular consoles. More eyes on VR, more people seeing what's happening, more companies who might want to get in on this.
I say "Mainstream VR" for a very specific and literal reason
It's a big step in making VR more _mainstream_ .
Also with games like Rec Room, VRChat, BeatSaber, and other titles raking in well in excess of a billion dollars a year I wouldn't call VR unimportant, just unadopted.
@@VaalkinTheOnly When PS5 buyers mostly have done this as the biggest leisure purchase they will make, they will NOT pay much more than that purchase just for VR...It's too far! I bought Quest 2 JUST for HL Alyx and PSVR 2 JUST for HZD. That is because in gaming there aint much else! VR has promised for many years it just has not delivered to the masses.
@@ekspatriat Maybe give the headset a year or two...the thing is only been out for 1 week for crying out loud haha....And in that 1 week it has already brought 2 more exclusive AAA games than valve has done in 4 years!
I am certain Sony got us covered, they are doing their part time for us gamers to do our part. And not only focus on minor issues.
@@ekspatriat it's central to the gaming life of most viewers of this channel, so this has to be bait.
The PS VR2 made the PS5 worth it for me. I absolutely love my vr kit! Pavlov, GT7 and RE:8 make it worth the price of admission imo. Everything else is just the cherry on top :D Set up is super easy, plug and play, basically no loading times so my adhd brain can just switch between experiences like its nothing, its comfortable AF, the tracking is flawless for me, the controllers are GREAT with the adaptive triggers and the haptics in the headset and senses, the graphics and performance are miles above my quest 2 on my 2080 super. The thing has rekindled my love for gaming.
I loved this 3 games too ! I would add pisthol whip to the list, it is amazing too
Fighting words adding Pavlov into that list there, given how the PSVR release completely killed the game on PC. All those years of modding, down the drain.
Eye tracking seems really fun. I’ve been thinking about modding the Index since there’s that one community project with both software and hardware (it even has 3D printed stuff too) that gives the Index eye tracking support. If I end up making my Index look like a bomb, eh, whatever.
Unfortunately i doubt you'll find many PC games with the eye tracking game design features since devs won't implement stuff like that for such a tiny fraction of the market compared to a standardized platform, unless they port the PS versions. Foveated rendering should be pretty awesome though (does that require game support or is it driver level?)
@@joos3D eye tracking is implemented at a hardware/software level, but it’s up to the games to include it or how to use it. Horizon uses it for rendering while firewall ultra uses it to chose weapons in menu
@@joos3D
Depends. You can implement foveated rendering globally, I believe.
@@2010ngojohow? Varjo aero doesn't implement globally
Unfortunately Valve is literally responsible for holding back eye tracking, their OpenXR beta doesn't support it, it's like having OpenXR without openXR, it's only meant to allow games developed to run on OpenXR to use steamVR, and all the idiot developers use it.
Got it on launch day. Enjoying it so far. I love how easy the setup is.
Excellent review! It's a realistic headset for the price compared to more expensive headsets - Cas and Chary called it a "perfect compromise" - but Sony has to keep the AAA bangers coming
I loved all the Sony titles for OGPSVR, Farpoint with the AIM controller and 3D-printed buttstock in co-op story mode online was just the most amazing VR experience I've had to this date still. I'm always hoping a new game will get me to that place again, like a junkie getting his next VR fix lol
At least don’t tell me your another index worshipper treating it as the holy grail. I have both the index and psvr2 and overall I far prefer the latter. I don’t know why people still sing the indexes praises constantly.
@@tomstacey1103 nope I had a rift s and quest 2 for pcvr only but for the price I can imagine
@@jakkudemoff3043 Yeah well I’ve had comfort issues with my index for some reason even though everyone else says it’s one of the most comfortable headsets so I barely ever use it. After 4 years the index definitely needs to be reduced in price but unfortunately it still hasn’t simply because no real reputable companies have produced high end pc-vr headsets over the past few years. I just get annoyed to see people still praising the index so much just because it’s valve when in reality it’s now overpriced outdated hardware.
@@tomstacey1103 that's a shame to hear because all I hear is praise too but I'm loving psvr 2 - the amazing lighting and blacks with the incredible headset and controller haptics and I'm sold on dealing with mura and persistence issues
Great Review , absolutely loving the VR2 . If you already have the Ps5 then it’s well worth the investment 👌👌
I've found that the PSVR2 is for sure a good headset. The biggest drawback honestly is the mura but like Thrill mentioned you can get over it and its not always game breaking. I feel the best reasons to invest in the PSVR2 is for the haptics, adaptive triggers, oled screen, and potential VR game support. I personally was already sold after seeing how gorgeous resident evil 8 feels in it. I've also started playing Pavlov again and haven't had that much fun in that game in a very long time. From what I've noticed with VR veterans is that it does reignite that VR excitement and has done so for me.
If you have the cash I think its a good investment while waiting for the VR market to get itself together and pull all the good pieces from all current headsets together into one.
I'm sure I'd get used to the mura quickly. So that's not even its biggest flaw. Its biggest flaw is the lack of PC support! Sony would make their ROI and even profit in NO TIME if it were PC compatible.
@@notlNSIGHT no they want that sweet 30% on every software purchase. Until there is a PlayStation PC store that they can lock you into
Yeah it would be nice to have PC support, Sony definitely wants you to buy their software to recoup the cost. I personally don't mind if it shows other businesses that VR is profitable and encourages them to release other headsets.
The biggest drawback of psvr2 isn't the headset imo, it's the console itself. Luckily an adapter for PC is coming soon. I expect when people super sample the resolution of their games on PC like we do with every other headset, it will show what the headset can do. I mean, don't buy it for pc obviously, even with the adapter, there's no support so chances are it can stop working with pc anytime, plus there's better things around that price, and even if they don't come with foveated rendering, you can put an addon later (yes even in the bigscreen beyond you can fit it in). But if you already have one and a PC I'd try it just to see the difference.
It would be cool if the PS5 Pro could push gt7 and other games to at least 90 fixed fps to avoid the reprojection and have a smoother feeling but didn't happen with psvr1 won't happen here either
That "Grainy filter" Effect is exactly why I got rid of my Vive Pro. I didn't mind the Screen Door Effect, but the Mura thing really pulled me out of the immersion... and I went back to my index.
I'm hoping this'll nudge game development further in VR. Because the PS5 is a PC with the same specs as a PC (AMD CPU and GPU, X86 architecture unlike older generations), so if games are coded to work with the PS5VR, it could be possible to also have VR support for the same games on PC.
i hope they let the indie dev to work on psvr2, if they didn't have enough money to make VR game.
just let the community explore all of the amazing psvr2 Functionality and create a Great game.
PSVR1 had an extremely similar screen issue. So glad they made it a lot easier to connect. The first one was kinda complicated with co-processor connections and stuff.
that was just screendoor effect that was caused by low resolution
Very sensible and (as usual) in depth review, Thrill.
Hope you'll have reason to do an update in 6 months to a year because the quality and quantity of the library has caught up with the headset.
I will say, though my usual motto is, "Never try anything new; let someone else try it first, and see if it kills them," this is the first VR headset I've actually gone full "early adopter" on by pre-ordering.
the psvr2 is a great step forward with the eye adjustment but not everyone's eyes are symmetrical I wish both lens were adjustable separately (up and down also ) so you can get the perfect sweet spot.. heck it would be awesome if they could auto adjust for you every time you put it on. it already tracks the center of you eye
Probably why the internal rectangular screen looks a little lopsided to me, no matter how I tilt my head while resetting the image.
I was in the fence before this video, now I’m locking in my order!🔥
QOTW
What's your hopes for quest 3?
Any worries about it too?
I’ve played over 10 different games on my PSVR 2 headset and haven’t had any issues with mura affecting my experience. When consciously looking for it, it was extremely faint and not near as bad as the example video you gave. After I noticed it and began focusing on the game world instead of nearly crossing my eyes to find the mura, I have never seen it again. I’d imagine it would vary from headset to headset, but mine is not an issue at all.
I had the og psvr and the screen door effect paired with how hard it was to set all the wires up was enough for me to stop playing really quickly
I don't mind the grainy image, given all of the features that the PSVR2 has. VR for me over the last 6 years has been accepting compromise. First with the screen door affect on the Vive and Vive Pro. Then the HP Reverb G2 it was a limited max IPD, which was just too small for me, and Windows Mixed Reality (horrible). The Vive Pro 2 was dissapointing, compaired to the older Vive's, they reduced the max IPD from 74mm to 70mm, the lens sweet spot was too small, all of this made it useless for me. Now I use a Pimax 8KX, which is just big and still has some very small screen door affect, is fiddily to set up, but otherwise is fantastic.
“Expensive” isn’t this the same guy who’s tested a $7,000 VR? And the popular Valve Index?
Mura is annoying but ghosting really hurts my experience with Resident Evil. GT7 plays and looks great. Don't lower brightness as some youtubers are recommending. When the headlights of the car behind you lights up b your cabin it is one of the coolest things I have seen in VR
I played GT7 for the first time ever in VR. Was my first gram turismo game ever. Played from 8:30pm-4:30am. It was legit amazing.
My Thrustmaster T300 + Wheel Stand Pro V2 + IKEA Poäng are very happy with this 💟
Already ordered slap-on subscribtion lenses at an VR Optician so I don't have to wear glasses or contacts. Amazing times we live in!
I agree with your review. It annoyed me to notice how much mura was noticeable.... and then I got over it. The crazy small sweet spot an god rays are also annoying but I am having such a blast with a lot of games that I got over those too. Games like GT7, Horizon, Pistol whip, Les Mills, Drums Rock and Zombieland, to name a few, are simply fantastic on this headset. I even enjoy After the Fall now that we have joysticks. It was simply unplayable with the move controllers.
My biggest gripe with the PSVR2 are the blurry edges. The mura-effect can be lessened by turning down the brightness a bit, but my god those blurry edges makes cinematic mode unusable for me. Luckily I don't notice it that much in VR-mode
Interesting but of A-B testing you got going on with the thumbnail and title. I am happy to see a much more balanced approach to this review.
My first VR experience and aside from the eye strain I get after an hour or two it's pretty good, for the mura I suggest turning the way down brightness, in Horizon it's almost completely got rid of it (not sure how it isn't in other games because I've just got Horizon rn) so just go in and out of setting adjusting the brightness till you get that sweet spot and you're set
Youl get more used to it as time goes on and eye strain will be less of an issue
SUPER good script!!! Love your videos!!
I got PSVR 2 the first day and I can confirm he made an awesome honest review.
I just watched a video earlier of a VR reviewer that really kinda fixed the Mura issue. They had green filter sunglasses and putting those on eliminates the Mura effect almost completely. It darkens the image too and changes the color balance somewhat but I don't know how much but they said any game like resi evil where the Mura is terrible becomes completely playable again without any mura effect. The oled panels have more green elements than the other colours and adding a green filter reduces the green intensity which seems to fix the issue. I think we need people investigating this with different filters at different strengths to find a sweet spot that minimises loss of light while maximising reducing mura then make some kind of snap on lens product for the headset. Or maybe Sony themselves could add a fix for this and reduce that in software. Also game developers who are aware of this issue could balance the colors themselves to help with this. Its something I think should be investigated for those who are doing things like considering or returning their headset because of Mura bothering them so much. It may help them enormously. I haven't tried any of this, I'm just passing on info from another youtuber. Their channel is ALTVR for anyone wanting to go watch their video about it.
The 'Mura' was something I noticed on my original Rift too.
I've been playing for a week and I can honestly say I haven't noticed what you describe as mura. I hope I don't start noticing it now! My only slight complaint about the display is that you often have to fiddle with it to get the picture sharp,. The Oled screen is so good though that it hasn't bothered me. I'm used to the Quest 2 and this is so much better I'm just going to sell it.
Hahah mura mura everywhere. Try other high end headsets and you will clearly see it.
I've never played VR before so this has been my only experience but I'm sold on it. VR2 is amazing
lack of a pancake lens is the biggest mistake of this headset. After using the Q3 for PCVR you can see how amazingly clear pancake lens makes the image.
thank you so much for this review, theres so many hollow reviews of the PSVR2 out there, it feels like this is the most complete and true one. for instance, this is the first time i ever see a review talk about this mura effect.
I have yet to notice the mura effect at all
Didn't expect to see my Reddit post on here. Haha. I'm happy to report that while the controllers are sometimes awkward and do cause some hand fatigue in certain games (especially if you have to continuously hold in the grip buttons while walking around with the thumbsticks), at least it's still playable.
I played Pavlov for 45 minutes yesterday, and my hands ached by the end, but that's my fault because I refuse to use toggle grip for the guns. It throws off my reloading if I do.
Edit 2: I played Pavlov for 3 hours today and by 2 hours in my hands were killing me. I kept dropping guns etc… I’m going to tweet at them to see if they can add hybrid grip like RE8 has.
I have visual snow so this nura thing just makes it more realistic for me
I really only notice mura with really dark areas, and I also noticed it somewhat on the psvr1 being a psvr1 user from very early on
The PSVR original had that Mura effect as well - and when I switched up to PCVR, the Reverb G2, I really - really did not miss the color richness and deep black levels nearly as much as I was glad to be rid of the Mura. Until the PSVR2, I wasn't even aware this was a wider problem in OLED screens. My only experience with OLED before was the PSVita - which had an absolutely gorgeous display. I had just figured the PSVR used sub-standard low-quality screens. Now I'm reconsidering my purchase of a PSVR2 pending release of PC official/community drivers. I still really like the single-wire interface and eye-tracking in a mass-market headset, but it's really not much of an upgrade compared to my current headset... and a downgrade in many areas.
I guess it's really just a waiting game to see what Valve announces with the Deckard, but all indications so far seem to point to it being more of a Meta competitor, rather than an Index upgrade.
I'm waiting for valves next move. But they need to do it soon
VR is getting popular more so than ever before and so is A.I. If we could have A.I player characters in vr games that would be so cool!
I like the colors and the blacks, but despite its screen resolution, the angle coverage is too large in the lenses, so it's even more pixelated than a Quest 2.
I love pretty much everything about this headset, besides the reprojection in the games I've tried so far. It's almost a deal breaker for me. Anyone know if this can be corrected in software or firmware updates? Also my right controller has to be reset upon every startup of a game, so that's an annoyance.
They're using a system similar to SteamVR or ASW on PC which is terrible. They should have built a system like AppSW on Quest that actually works. Without getting into the technical details, this would require more work from game devs but would have eliminated all the issues people are having. Making the change now would require the games to all be patched.
My headset just arrived today. Now I just gotta wait until the 9th to pick up my PS5 at Best Buy while the unopened box sits on my desk. Taunting me.
I NEED to know the name of the song at 5:37. That transition from melancholic piano to synth is just beautiful.
I would love to see an in depth video about PSVR2 on PC, now that the official PC adaptor is available. It ads a lot of value, but loses some awesome features.
I’m glad he mentioned the awful audio because that’s one of my biggest gripes with the headset
Next PC headset should take all good things from PSVR2...
It is my 1st ever VR platform... and honestly I play GT7 every day now...
Eye tracking and fov rendering is a game changer, fact that game like GT7 with full grid of cars, all rain and stuff effects runs flawlessly on PS5 in VR is mind blowing.
I think the opposite. Next Sony Vr needs to take all the good thinks from the quest pro
I hope someone Jaibreaks the PSVR2
This headset looks quite good
5:36 - I recognise the NMS music from this point... Nice touch. :)
I've been waiting a long long time for this video
Altvr found that wearing green tinted lenses helps a lot with MURA.
I think you missed one thing that personally has me still considering a PS5 + PSVR2... The thing that blew me away with the Quest/ Quest 2 was the "power on and play" factor. Not sure if that makes sense. I'm a PC VR user since the original vive and love PC VR. However, being able to just turn the thing on and get right into VR without any messing around with all the typical PC VR quirks (you know what I mean) was a breath of fresh air. My wife, who is not tech savvy, actually started venturing into VR games by herself on the Quest 2 because it was so easy. To me PSVR 2 might be the best of both worlds. Quick, easy start up but also beautiful visuals. What do you think?
Edit: Spelling lol
But mura, screen-door, and ghosting are well-known OLED display issues... since Quest 1. And this is strange. Didn't Sony know all that?
I'm honestly waiting for a version 2 like the OG headset, and a price drop to 450-500, & a better library. 5 games doesn't cut it for me when there's no Steam access or PSVR backwards compatibility
If either through community action or sony action this gets support for pcvr i can see this headset becoming a dominant contender but i dont see anyone choosing this over a pcvr setup if they dont already own the playstation
Weird, the Mura effect doesn't bother me at all, it's super subtle except for some scenarios, and even then if you don't look for it, it's a non-issue. My only "disappointment" so far has been the graphical fidelity of the games. Not the display, mind you - some less demanding or well-tuned games like Song in the Smoke look SUPER crisp. But then you have RE8 which yes, looks really good in terms of textures, models and effects. But... the resolution can get really low. I think they use some kind of dynamic resolution so there are times when I'm like this is great! But more often than not you see something that looks straight from PSVR1, low-res and lots of jaggies and shimmering which detracts from the otherwise great graphics. Hopefully as time goes on developers will learn to better utilise the foveated rendering and we get AAA games running at native resolution
graphics still looks the same when comparing both side to side from tv, but i can see it worse in VR , that's my only complaint too ...
Did you put the midroll ad at the very top of the grainy rant explosion cause that's funny as hell. Its the worst i can't not see it IS SO BAD AND RUINS IMMERSION I CAN'T HANDLE IT AHHHHHHHH!!.... backroom are the most renovated rooms for new home buyers, sometimes it's hard to know where to start!
So funny lol
- it's got a powerbutton.
Well I'd hope it would have a power button
It’s a road works ahead moment
So was this the first time you’ve played Rez then? Unrelated, but I’d love to hear any kind of extended thoughts on the game lol. Also if you haven’t seen it already, Humanity looks real cool. It’s being published by the same studio. I find I really enjoy vr games where you’re not in first person
If being binaural (blurry or perfect) it is blurry due to the Fn film they put on the lens modules to mask the SDE due to the pentile diodes. Read up on it! Same res OLED has a lot more screen door than the same res LCD. This stands out in VR due to the distance.
GT7 in Vr is so realistic. All your real life driving instincts kick in. You have to use your head to look in the mirrors and use real spatial awareness when overtaking as everything is in full 3d at life size scale. It's a stunning experience and far more like real life driving than sitting on a sofa playing a game. If you love racing you need to try this.
It's Increadible...
Your Video Production Skill and Video Quality is phenomenal for a person that watches your videos since the beginning... its great.
Everytime a Video drops I know its a great one thats highly entertaining... and I notice this in the past few months a lot.
Also I love the Drum & Base with these retro aesthetic keep your head up! ^^
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At 9:33 did we get a glimpse of the bottom half of Thrills face? Notice the black shirt, black nails, and tat on forearm.
with the PSVR2 being the defacto 2023 vr headset I bet it won't take long for people to crack it and get it working on pc
So to my understanding every VR headset has mura, but PSVR 1 and 2 suffer more because of the OLED lenses on both, but the OLED gives a clearer display
Exactly my issue with the PSVR2. You probably already spoke with Panda about it. But yeah, the grain is obnoxious. Any PCVR enthusiast will notice this right away.
Anyone that suffer Mura do this .... I have experience it on resident evil village and after the fall.... just turn down the brightness by 30 to 40 % and the Mura disappears and those games look so dame good ... I get no more Mura so please try and be blown away…. Thrill seeker is the man
I actually don't really mind the mura effect as someone who used the og htc vive and rift cv1, tbh it'd be kinda nostalgic haha.
This "filter" effect similar to the Quest 2 when choosing low bitrate for pc streaming.
I'm using a Rift CV1 and I notice the mura every time I log in, but then I start doing something and it seems to go away. It shows up next time so I know it doesn't actually go away.
I already have a Quest 2.
But I did pick up this headset. I did instantly notice the mura, but I can get over it. It's not noticeable to me when actively playing a game. So that's good.
I really like it. I haven't touched my Quest in a week. I am actually considering selling it off. As I'm not super interested in Meta's plans.
However, I am holding off for now to see where this PSVR2 is going. I am very happy with it, but it's future is a question mark.
As long as the game library grows sufficiently, I'll be happy. There's enough to keep busy for now, but they need to get new games out fast. Be that ports, hybrids, or new.
Beat Saber is coming thankfully. That's my favorite VR game, and it's kind of weird that it's not there already given how popular it is.
Hey thrill, what IR light do you use for your room?? Ive been looking on Amazon but afraid to buy an IR light I’ll find worthless (which sadly I have to admit…I already have). Id love to play in the dark once again!
Has that mura effect shown up in the Bigscreen Beyond at all, I wonder?
My first VR experience was with the original PSVR. For any potential first time VR users the MERA effect shouldn't be a problem like he stated in the video. The first PSVR had a major screen door effect & I initially noticed it. Then my mind just deleted it & I was shocked at how much I was immersed into games. I didn't realize how prominent the screen door effect was until I purchased a VR headset for my PC. I think that if this is your first VR experience it will be a really good one. The system just needs a bigger library which should come. Just know that high quality graphics are nice but in a VR environment your mind will fill in the "blanks" even in very simple blocky games. Reminds me of the Matrix quote the mind makes it real.
Thrill, which steering wheel are you using for Gran Turismo 7? I really want to get into it, but I want a great steering wheel for it before I dive in.
5:59
Is that some 65daysofstatic?
(No Mans Sky music?)
To be fair on build quality, i think a bit of flex and squish is better than not. Ive seen way too many Oculus controllers broken because they're solid so one point of contact can shatter the ring, whereas if there was some give and squish to it, it'd absorb impact better.
But I agree. PSVR2 is cool tech, but its too expensive for an entry into VR for console owners, as they already have the stuff to drive it. But Quest exists, and is cheaper, and works with a PC, or by itself, and isn't nearly as restricted in game ecosystem.
I didn't know that in a horror game, when you blink, they can use that to make the scene changed. Then I totally realized that someone could make a Weeping Angel Doctor Who experience. Every time you blink, the angels get closer to you. If done right, it could be a terrifying experience!
I really hope the Valve Index 2 has eye tracking. It adds so much more possibilities with VR. From Foveated rendering, which will help increase frame-rates, To using the eyes as an input device, to creating crazy scary games that use your blinks to make a scary game totally terrifying!
"There's a grain over everything it's terrible"
Laughs in visual snow syndrome
Haha
For the features offered I think the price is really OK.
The original Oculus Rift CV1 used OLED panels, right? Did it have the same issue? Maybe it was masked by the screen door effect from the low pixel density, but I don't remember the Mura there. I'm not sure why this is an issue with all OLEDs. I suspect over time that this can be fixed in future OLED display panels.
This thing hard ware wise would be actually be great for monitor replacement
Mura disappeared with time, but in some extreme situations it reappeared e.g kayak vr mirage at night
About the earbuds! You say these are terrible? I found them to be pretty good. Especially the bass response is surprisingly good, I had a very immersive experience with them. Very lightweight, not intrusive, I don't even feel them. Maybe my version is a newer one!?
I definitely didn't notice it
Hey Thrill good video, I'm commenting to ask if you'd please make a video on if the valve index is still worth it in 2023? I'm getting one myself as I've recently gained a lot of wealth to spend, and figured i'd splurge on VR as I love it very much, I currently have used a rift s (when it released) and then upgraded to a quest 2 and thats what i've been using, seeing as you've used the index more than anyone else on the planet i'd love to know your thoughts, espessically with the deckard already getting leaks.
Beat Saber *is* coming to PSVR 2 BTW. It was announced ages ago.
I had the problem with seeing the grainy crap until I turned the brightness down about 5% in the vr settings.
They have the best panel so it's top and will remain top until bigscreen releases in 2024
I have a skinny face and my biggest problem is that the lenses don't get close enough to each other. Even on the lowest setting, it still leaves my eyes just outside the sweet spot.
And I'm sure Sony could fix the mura effect or atleast make it less of an effect with a update to balance the colours
Awesome as ever but did you sneaky just put a headphone there looking like a VR Headset !?😆
Rez is the most evergreen game ever, it is the benchmark of game play interaction. I can't wait to try this out!!!
hey man wanted to let you know you are a great channel, keep up the good work and thanks for the entertaining videos
I need to wait for my industrial to finish healing cause wearing the pulse 3d headset with the ps vr2 hurts
Wish Thrill had done a bit more research , the Mura seems to greatly vary between different units , some people saying it is almost impossible to notice , to others (like thrill) saying it it incredibly noticeable