started on a 2015 fz07 2 years ago, 18 years old now and I can say as long as you're easy on the throttle until you get used to the torque, its a perfect first bike.
Something you could do if you're a total noob is buy a 180/60 rear tire without changing the sprockets. This would take a lot of the balls out of the bike and make it way more rookie-friendly. I did this with my FZ1 and it helped me not wreck it as a beginner, I got a 190/55 back tire and didn't change the sprockets.
yeah i just picked one up and it’s my first time ever riding (got a 15 fz07) and it’s really easy to control and weave around. i’m totally fine with it and everyone who has ridden a lot has loved it
Hey man, I’m a beginner rider and pretty much have no experience on motorcycles. No dirt bikes or anything, just the MSF course and I picked up a 2019 MT07 as my first bike literally last Wednesday and so far it’s going pretty well. I’m 17 and for me the main few things that I’m having difficulty with are learning clutch control, like at a stop light, and dealing with the weight at lower speeds like taking off from a stop or stopping at a light. If you’re a beginner and you’re thinking, “I should probably start off with a 300 or 400 as a first bike I’m kinda scared of the power” don’t be. As long as you aren’t a speed demon who goes full throttle every chance you get and you know a thing or two about being smooth on the throttle you could easily learn on this bike and ride it as your first. Like I said I just got this bike a week ago and only rode it a few days now but so far it’s going great, just know that if a 17 year old with zero experience can handle the power then you probably can too.
@streetbutter6935 I bought mine when I was 20 and only had about 6 months on a grom, 23 now and I've seen some people start on these and crash them in a couple of months. It's possible to start on, I kinda did it lol, but just gotta be careful
It’s not about being able to handle the power, it’s about learning how to use the power. I glad you are being careful with the throttle but eventually you’ll get in a situation where you’re going to have to twist that throttle so just keep in mind that this particular bike is known for violent power wheelies. I’m sixty years old and have been riding since 1969 . I have also been racing motorcycles since the mid eighties. When I left the dealership on my new 2021 mt07 the front tire didn’t touch pavement until 4th gear. This thing is a hoot!
Just bought the 23 MT-07 as my first bike a few months ago and it couldn't be going better. I absolutely love it. Never rode dirt bikes as a kid but I did grow up on the back of a Goldwing as a passenger with over 200k km's travelled throughout my life.
As a 35 year old who just bought an MT-07 as his first bike, I 100% believe that if I bought a bike when I was 20, I'd be dead. I was driving my car at 150+ mph when I was 18. I waited until I knew I could trust myself with a bike before I bought one, and I took the MSF course. So far my top speed on the bike is like 60 mph for 2 seconds lol
I’m 35 an are considering doing my bike test as my cars days are over with having a family now. Only thing putting me off is the factor that bike are more dangerous, I had a pretty quick car for many years ( vw r32 mark 4 ) but crashed my old pug so I wised up and became more aware of my driving. I think I’d carry the same principles to driving a bike an obviously having kids now but is it worth the risk 😅.. how you manage to get a mt07 for your first bike? Did you not need to drive a 125 to learn first no?
I did my direct access on the MT07 and that was after a 10 year break with only 125cc experience. Got to say after learning how to control the MT at slow speeds i felt totally comfortable. It will do what you tell it to, the only time this bike would be an issue is if youre doing things you shouldnt be doing on public roads. The abs inspire confidence, you have an engine capable of handling city commuting and motorway rides, its comfortable and on top of that it doesnt break the bank to get your hands on one. Im not sure how different the training is in other countries to legally be able to ride this but in the UK you're given proper training to be able to handle this kind of bike.
I agree with you, having passed my cbt this week you can learn alot on a 125cc bike. In the UK people don't understand how bad our roads are with traffic, narrow and often wet with potholes. Also road positioning is key. I was going direct access to get a ninja 400 but decided experience on a 125cc will be far more helpful then jump straight to a middleweight after a few miles under my belt
As you described a 20 year ish with a few bucks i bought an mt 07 2020 last summer and i have been learning from it from the day i got it, hit the track a few weeks ago to try and learn to ride better and for me it is a very nice bike if you are nice with it and dont throw the gas and pop a 360 in first gear also a good bike if u want to learn some basic maintenance because it is very easy to work on this platform and do a lot of mods.
Hey Eric! I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your video! I'm in the process of getting my first bike, and after a year and a half of research, I've set my sights on the MT-07. At 30 years old and standing at 6'4", I feel like I bring a level of maturity and careful consideration to this decision that may not be as common in younger riders. I believe that I have the patience, caution, and reserve needed to ease into riding the MT-07 comfortably. It seems like a bike that will not only be a great fit for me now but also serve me well for many years to come. The torque factor keeps things exciting while the upright position promises a comfortable commute, which is important to me. I've heard amazing things about the sound of the MT-07, especially after replacing the stock exhaust - I can only imagine how incredible it must be in person! While I appreciate your perspective, after all my research, I truly believe that the MT-07 is the right choice for me. Thank you for the video, and you can count on me as a subscriber!
Hey man i just bought my 2023 version in October, its been gr8, i had my A2 license in a Z400 and felt it was alright, but this bike is just awesome, u just got to be careful with the throttle altho im not saying i didnt get any scary situations, cuz i did, in the first month i dropped my bike on a full stop (happens), after that, i got some confidence with it, and every single week on the first month i was getting an "accident" (nothing to serious), ill admit it, i drive it in a fun way, even tho now in my country its rainy so i dont usually go crazy on it now, i believe this is a perfect first bike to be honest, i have the 35kw version but i run it on the 55, and man i couldnt have bought a different bike this is perfect to learn, the thing i need to practise more is leaning since i still have 1cm or more to use on the rear tyre xD. One thing i would like to know its, how do you pop up that wheel so smoothly on second gear, i gave alot of gas on first gear and the wheel barely lift of the ground, one time it actually spin (lost traction) but it didnt lift, i would like to learn how to wheelie but dont want to crash my bike xDD Thank you for the video!
As long as you get restricted version in the beginning it is a good bike to start on. But I do agree, 55kW (+kW from aftermarket exhaust) on this cp2 engine is more than should beginner has. Sometimes it could be even more deadly than 600cc as you get really decent amount of torque in low rpms.
Yea, I had this conversation not too long ago, I think the CP2 is more dangerous for a complete beginner than a 4-cylinder 600, especially the R6 because it's got no low-end torque. All just opinions though, anything is possible.
Nah... I'd say that with my 100kgs on a 125 Yamaha XSR Legacy Edition even medium hills cause trucks to catch up with me and tailgate me. Not too safe. Starting now my big bike licence and looking towards MT07.
i actually started on a MT-07, im actually having a blast! besides the wind kinda sucks sometimes. but, i do agree with how easy it is to pop a wheelie. did it my 2nd day owning it lmfao
I got MT 07 2023 A2 i am about to unlocked it in few months my opinion i think i made the right choice bcs i didnt wanted to buy 400cc and then sell it to get 700+ cc bike
100% agree. Guys remember, purpose of your first bike is to LEARN TO RIDE. 300-400cc bikes are lot more appropriate Its too much power for someone not responsible. I started on MT 07 when I was 30 years old. Honestly, about first 1k miles I was pretty scared of the bike and wasnt learning much. Just surviving the bike. There is no f**ing way I would allow my 20 years old me to start on MT-07. For beginner it really feels like a damn rocket. Eventually, I grew into it but there are just better tools to learn the basics (safely) than MT-07. Just get a Duke 390 / Z400 / Ninja 400 / R3 / DRZ400
My driving school had MT-07 as learning bike. But we dont have these quick-learning schools like USA. My license took 14 weeks to complete so i had a decent amount of time to practise. And i fell in love with the MT-07 so much so i bought one after license was done. Its a perfect starter bike if you have a steady foundation to learn on. EU laws are very different in what kind of experience you need to have and learn before getting the license.
I'm in the US, and I hate that they didn't do any on the road training... you do everything in a parking lot... very, very basic stuff... I was terrified going out on to the road for the first time... I've been taking baby steps with and just commuting to work basically... I had to teach myself what and how to use engine braking... Thankfully I started on an mt03, and it's a very easy bike to learn to ride on, and fun too!
I started riding on a 21’ Mt 07 the torque at first was a little much but after a while u know throttle control and it’s a rather easy bike to ride as long as u respect it. It has the power down low but if u ever take it on the highway expecting to go fast like over 220km/h then it’s not your type of bike. It’s a perfect around town back road bike though and with a proper exhaust sounds amazing
The R7/MT07 definitely arent beginner bikes, but if a person wants to start on it its 100% doable. Just takes some sense of responsibility and maturity. I started on my stepdads 2000 GSXR 750, but I also spent like a month (off and on, college) doing drills, getting used to the throttle, breaks, shifting, and studying the MSF and manual before I even considered going out of my neighborhood streets. Didnt help I live near Memphis where driving fast is the norm. Because of that though (a year later)Ive never had a moment where I bit off more than I could chew, and both highway and city riding feel perfectly in control. Understand what it is youre riding, and treat it as such
In sweden we got MT7 and CB650R as practice bike in traffic school and myself consider to buy a CB650R. Now i am 31 dont have drive license because other things came to my life that was more important but i drived 883 Sportster and that sure was abit harder.. it was a 04 model or somewhere there and i remember the clutch was hard and i didnt rly like it but i manage it. The turns wasn't rly the best either. The sportster was lowered too. But i practice like 2 times on a carpark then on regular street to highway. No experience with any 2 wheeler with engine before and at that time i was around 21 years old if i remember correctly. I have a freind that got his license 2 years ago with not much experience either with bikes and he bought a Suzuki gsx 750 that he practice on and took license on aswell. That bike he drives crazy with now and u cab hear him coming miles away even got tickets just few weeks after he got license. 😂 I dont know about mt7 but Honda has that system to stop wheelie to happen and most bikes have all those fancy system for braking and etc. When u start to practice its kinda obvious u have respect for the throttle and not like hand twisting and make a wheelie 😂 Or any other foolish movement. Plus it comes to the teacher to inform you about thinks u may not know about.. plus yourself should be interesting to get more info on how things work. Thats how i am atleast. I heard few of my workers to say i should buy a older bike etc bla bla.. becuse i can fall with a new bike.. I can fall even with license and probably higher risk at that time becuse u will test your limits more 😅 It just annoys me some people try to stop u buy the bike u want. I can clearly understand if it was bike with 190hp and expensive insurance as hell.. i get it. But these middle cc bikes are decent price cheap insurance because most of them are classed as Touring and not sport bike. MT7 ain't a overkill sure it's a easy wheelie bike but u wont do that as a beginner if u are not a motocross experience guy 😅 I give thumps up to anyone that buys a decent modern one that they sit good on and have feet on the ground. Becuse most bikes will stop u from wheelie and u can change the respond too on some bikes plus it comes to you how u handle it but aslong u are easy on throttle u will learn your limits pretty quick. I think 600-800cc bikes are the normal standard starter bike most people buy here in sweden.
I have a ninja 400, and I've been riding for about a year now on it, and I was looking at the ZX6R, but after looking into the MT07 I like it more because I do city riding and I think it would be perfect for how I ride, I don't care about top speed, but I do like being quick, and comfortable, like a balance between slow and fast but I'm not for the way 600s make you hunch. I love the naked bikes for many reasons, and I think I'm ready for an MT07
A Ninja 400 to MT07 is a very doable jump as the MT07 isn’t a ton quicker then the Ninja 400 believe it or not, especially at higher speeds. From a low speed roll the MT07 will get a good jump, but if you do a 70 mph roll the MT07 will probably only get a bike length on your Ninja 400. Weight/aero makes a big difference at higher speeds…
hi idk if ull reply but im 19yo rn and i've never driven a bike but yes i do have some money to buy something of 5 grands. ik itll sound dumb but shall i go with the new triumph scram 400x. can i a scrambler to tracks? does the wide handlebar and higher seat height kills the fun of leaning? height wont be an issue as im 6'2. but can u help? are scramblers equally fun?
I learnt to ride watching a youtube video and bought a honda cmx500. Been awesome to ride for a year or so and looking to upgrade to an MT07. I'd honestly check out yammie noobs videos for beginner bikes, great channel and isn't a boring watch. Hope this helps and goodluck
Im 24 and i bought SV650S as my first big bike (73HP and 65Nm) and its fun! I was doing my driving license on blocked MT07 and it was fun too, now i think that im gonna buy MT (unlocked).
1:43 spot on. i know few 20 years old who bought 07 without any experience, they all crashed in stupid ways like loosing conntrol of the bike. i personally think most people should outgrow a 400 first
hey i am wondering if i should get an fz/mt 07 for my first bike. what im not sure about is the fact that i have a cr80 two stroke and is that enough experience to get that as a first bike. i think i would be fine but i just want some reacurance. or should i get the mt09
@@GenericExotics that sucks bruh, here in europe u need to have 30 hours of practical driving time + pass the course with cones in order to ride 600cc and more and u must be 24 years old, its pretty strict
@prodbypjay7148 Yeah at age 18 in the US you can spend $100 for a weekend course to get your motorcycle license. Very little training is required. Just gotta do some figure 8's for the final test. In a handful of states, it's just a written exam.
I started on an mt07. 2022 brand new. Took my msf course right before I got it but was a total bike noob. No joke the bike was a LOT at first.. BUT, with some discipline I actually learned the bike fairly quick. You just have to respect the hell out of it or things could get out from under you pretty quick. With that said I was 28 when I started.. I’m pretty sure as reckless as I was in my early 20s I would definitely have done something stupid with that much power to start with.
Same story I laid my down on way home from dealer brand new mt7 .got it back and really enjoy this tq e bike.got my first wheelie last week by accident in 2nd on hard pull scared the shut out of me .500 miles on it now and pretty confident on it .just luv this bike
I was thinking about getting a mt07 as a first bike but tbh I’ve never really riden a bike. I’ve riden quads so I have throttle experience. But after seeing this video I might just stick with the mt03 or the r3
I started on a new Yamaha R7 and me personally i just went easy on the throttel managment because of how pricey it was and it was new so i couldnt even drive it to its limit but if you go easy i think its perfect as a beginner bike you got fun torque to play with and not to slow or to fast
@@Firekids147 idk what experience you get from msf in america nor your skill lvl but i had no problems at all with the bike i had in driving school and less with the r7 and power is managable linear and overall good yes.
R7 for the win dude🔥✌🏽 i have an R7 as my first bike and would recommend for anyone looking to ride long term. Plenty of speed and torque for the road but definitely not overpowered at all 🤣
Got my first bike last year. A 2000 Suzuki Hayabusa, rode 1200 miles last summer. No problems what so ever, great bike. Lucky it comes with an adjustable throttle which can be easily controlled with your wrist ;)
Hello there, I'd like to seek some insights. I'm considering the MT07 as my first big bike. With nearly 5 years of experience riding manual with clutch and automatic motorcycles ranging from 100 to 200cc, do you think it's suitable for me? Thank you.
Technically didn't start on one. Had an Onyx RCR moped prior, which had similar to 250cc MX bike torque. My 2021 MT-07 is my first motorcycle with a clutch, and gearbox. I recently dropped it because i took iut out before we got a solid rain to wash the roads, went over loose sand, and gravel by my house. Now, I'm doing physical therapy on my leg to reduce the scar tissue. Bike starts up good still. Only damage was to the frame slider end, kickstand, and debris in the break caliper. Once I get used to the bike, and have gotten a few years out of it, I want a Tracer 9 GT+. Just wish there was a track in my area for track days.
Mt07 was my first motorcycle, although I did start on a Yamaha Xmax 300 scooter for 6 weeks to learn how to ride without worrying about gears. All my friends were saying the mt07 would be too torquey, that I’ll be too aggressive on the throttle, and whatever else people say… Honestly, after almost 10 months and 2 tracks days on this bike, there is no other bike I would rather have started on. It’s really hard to lift the front wheels up unless you’re literally going full pin from 1st gear. Even in 2nd it’s hard to pull up the front wheel unless you clutch up. But I’m not sure why people say this isn’t good for beginners. Maybe if you’re 18 years old and have zero self control, then yeah I can see that (I’m 36 and started riding at 35). Great bike that I still have along with my Tracer 900. I’l have converted the 07 to my track bike that I also use on the street. Good video tho
I just started riding motorcycles in 2023 in Germany. Got my A2 license so the my mt-07 is restricted to 48ps/35kw roughly. Im 20 years old and since there are no PS/KW restrictions in the USA i completely agree with you. I have ridden the unrestricted 07 before and my god its a lot crazier than the restricted one so if you buy a mt-07 as a beginner i would suggest restricting it. :) But that only goes for speed demons like me who absolutely love the adrenaline. But after a week in the alps i was pretty much acustomed to the bike.
I started on an R125 and then got the R7 six months later - I consider myself a beginner and the R7 is perfect, plenty of fun, nothing bad happens when you twist the throttle fully, amazing handling. To be honest I can see myself riding this for the next 10 years as it's perfect for UK roads and I'm not really a track bro.
I toatly agree with you on the 300s i had my mt03 for a year and was still not bord of it but then i upgraded to the mt07 for my second bike and i don't see my self selling it.
Alright you kinda nailed this on the head for me lol. I'm 20, have a little money, and want something I can commute to work with and rip through some twisties with. However, I've got probably 50 hrs on dirt bikes 125-400cc, and I can handle that 400 just fine on sketchy trails. I'm used to driving semi-fast manual cars, I'm a 6'2" 185lb dude, I guess I don't think an MT-07 is that unreasonable. Plus you can get them used for like the same prices as a ninja 400 abs.
Just bought my own mt-07 with the experiance going from 50 cc bikes, 125 bikes and 450 cc bikes and I can’t stress this enough. The mt-07 IS NOT a beginner bike, the bike has so much torque and it’s fun and all because I have gas control and have some experience behind me but just for your own good, start on a bike with MAX 50 hp and under.
I started on a Cbr500r, rocked it for 15k miles for a year and a half… learned the chops…. Then traded it for an rs660… and I wouldn’t change anything if I could.
I'm a new rider. Never really used a clutch. I got the r7 for my first bike after selling my Ryker 900. Saying the R7 is for beginners is a stretch. Learning throttle control with a torquey bike is not easy. Also with the super aggressive stance you'll be sore until those muscles groups get used to it.
I mean yeah that makes sense. But I’m going to buy a bike I want to keep for as long as possible and not get tired of. So I’m going to get an R7. I’m 25 and am getting my license at the end of February. I just know I won’t get over confident and start tryna ride like I got years of experience
I said the same thing about people getting bored of a small bike like a 400. They scared to lean the bike is what I hear from them. They call me crazy for wanting to lean the bike but it's made to do that.
I started on a sv650 about 9 years ago, had it for 2 years. And left the scene. Picked up a 2018 MT07 at 27. Wish I would’ve got this first, I would’ve never left the scene lol.
I'm currently looking at a SV650 and MT07, what are the reasons you prefer the MT07? I dont have street riding experience, I only dirt bikes (Husqvarna TX300) and i'm trying to decide which one would i feel more comfortable riding on the streets.
I would consider myself beginnerish but I am a bit older. Got about 3000 miles under my belt. Just rode about 400 miles during last week with the MT07 and I see where your coming from. The torque needs some getting used to. But it’s ok if your not messing around and asking for trouble. If I would be in the beginning of my 20s I would be messing around and asking for trouble :D
I got a used fz9 two years ago and only things i upgraded are the ECU flash, brake pads and tires. People are so quick to mod everything but cant even outperform the bikes stock shit 😂
the driving school i learn uses the mt-07. i like the feel and respons of the bike. i haven't driven any other bike or scooter before. in my oppinion if you start out easy and pickup the pace from there it is a good bike to start on.
bought my mt07 at 32 and i still pushed it to the limits going 140mph(odo speed), i was riding a 500 before that and while you do get used to the highway pulling speed pretty quick, from stop to stop this thing can rip your arms off if you're not careful. If i was 16-18 i would probably be dead, at that age i was already jumping dirt mounds with an old cavalier z24 lmao
Some people are more responsible, or pay attention to everything going on better, but it’s easy to get distracted especially on a bike.. ‘16 fz-07 was my first bike brand new after MSF course, did lots of upgrades just under 8 years riding it. I’d agree about taking track days to understand the capabilities of a bike and the rider’s potential, but not everyone was born to be a Rossi. Every ride should be a new lesson, even if it’s a quick trip, always strive to be a better rider/practice slow maneuvers, don’t plateau and get complacent.
I’m a beginner and I’d beg to differ. As long as one is profoundly responsible and respectful of the power in the throttle, you should be fine. I have not once put myself in any danger as a newbro on my r7.
Starting with a 686cc is probably better than starting with a 200/300cc and moving up. Also much better having greater power if taking it on highway speeds rather than an r3 that will have less of a throttle response at higher speed, plus the added wear of running higher RPM’s on the highway
I recently had a chance to ride mt-07 and holy fuck... when I sat on it, it felt like mine CB 125R but when I open the throttle it almost jump from beneath me... it feels very light and nimble like 125 but boosted to the limit
Certain feauture such as trace control should be put at least as an option even on lower CC model, and for who like, even cruise control and quick shifter also. While on 125cc make no sense put CBS instead of ABS.
As with everything else in life, it depends on the individual. I do not believe the MT07 has an unmanageable amount of power for most people. You just have to respect the bike. That is not so much a measure of skill as it is mentality. I do believe that most people who’d crash an MT07 would also promptly crash a 300 because it’s simply the way they ride.
I started on one, Only because I saw a lot of MT03’s for sale with less than 1000kms… I figured there must be a reason! But yes it is very quick, in my late 30’s and paid cash though… so not quite the target audience.
Iv rode bikes from a kid and mid 30s now I find it's alot more fun driving a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow if that makes sense lol the mt03s are alot of fun also or smaller again the mt125s. People watch a few TH-cam videos of idiots racing down the highway and think they could do that and end up scrubbed lol even the most experienced riders get caught out, all it takes is someone to pull out Infront of you. Ride safe bro 👍
I agree. I had the same mt07 as you do.. I live in Croatia, where people are taking a driving license on mt07, which is, in my opinion, wrong. Mt07 is a torque bike, and for beginners, it is not a good bike to start with.. for the second bike is fine 😁. In my case, it was my first bike, but I am old enough to remain calm when driving 😁 Be safe and have fun!
Be very careful in 1st or 2nd gear!!! Unlike a dirtbike, your back tire will NOT spin out on dry pavement, so it will be completely different from 0mph to 30mph. After that, it will be more similar.
Coming from a 125, it took me precisely two turns to get used to it. It's a perfect first "big bike", but with zero experience; maybe not, if im honest.
Hey man, I did a video about this. I don't agree with you but I do. Personally, a 300 for me is too small but that also has to do with the fact that I am 6"2 and 200 pounds. I believe that the MT07 is actually great compared to other nakes like the Ducati Monsters. it really comes down to the individual. if you have self-control and are too tall for 300cc definitly look at 600+ where you won't feel like Donkey Kong riding a bicycle 😂
That’s the thing 90% of people who own a bike don’t do any track days, stunting, or push themselves on windy/curvy roads and neither do they want to. Most of the U.S is highways and you have to ride an hour out if you live in a big city.
Ok I’m a learner in Australia. The version of the MT-07 learners have access to have throttle resticors air intake restrictions and a different ecu program also different engine capacity I’m pretty certain don’t quote me on that last one but I think the LA version is 655cc where as the other version known as the MT-07HO Ho stands for high output has a 689cc. In Australia there the MT-07LA the LA stands for learner approved. I’ve got a 2023 model yes I’m a little older 34. And yes I rode dirt bikes but that was 15 years ago. The dirt and the road are completely different animals so are the bikes. Mind you I’ve only had the bike for 3 days and been out on it twice the learner version seems pretty tame as long as you have at least a rough idea of what your doing. I’d have to agree with you if you’ve never touched a bike before then this one is probably best to stay away from. I know if you panic which most learners will do and grab that throttle and eat pavement. Even when taking off learners tend to rev it abit harder. If you stall panick and give it to much throttle you’ll be on one wheel. I personally wouldn’t even recommend a 400cc to a learner I’d say get a 250cc-300cc they’re light enough and usually they’ll be more forgiving. To a complete noob though I’d say get a 125cc. They’ll have a lot of other things to focus on while out and about learning last thing they need to worry about is flipping the bike.
A noob can go MT7 it rly depends on yourself as a person how u handle the bike plus your teacher to inform you what your bike can do and how to avoid situations. If the noob is a full throttle guy and yeah makes wheelie he shouldn't even be on a bike in first place or a car if that's how the person does things when learning. Most noobs/beginners when I talk to them they seem to already know how things work with clutches etc because they watch a lot of videos on TH-cam and generally talk about bikes because they are very interested in it. I never heard in my circle that someone was foolish enough to do those dumb things haha.. But I can recommend those in the EU if u are like 16 years old a lowered cc bike because u can't drive a bike with its max HP anyway... We have A2 restriction so u can possibly drive a big bike.. I don't remember if weight comes to the point but HP needs to be reduced.
I would just recommend you take the msf course and or/ have a buddy show you the basics on a dirt bike before you hop on the 07 if you’re dead set on getting one. Familiarize yourself with controlling a motorcycle and then take it easy at first and you’ll be ok
Different league from 07 bro. 09 is 40 more hp and 20more ft lb torque with only 10 more pounds. The 09 in standard or A will bite a beginner in the ass very quickly, most people don’t have ur patience and whisky throttled the mt09’s, very dangerous for beginners.
A few years ago, reviewers were saying that the FZ-07 (the bike's previous name) was a terrible beginner bike because of its wheelie-inducing torque in lower gears. Then, suddenly, everyone is saying it's a *_great_* starter! I have no idea what changed, unless it was corporate pushback from Yamaha.
i have been riding for 9 years now and the mt 07 was my second bike it makes to much torqeu down low that can suprise a beginner with no throttle controlle it will wheelie to easy if you hold on to the bars and not with your legs
There's a lot to people and a lot to motorcycles. It would be nice to be able to simply say this IS a beginner bike and THIS is NOT a beginner bike, however it's not quite as simple as that. There are many levels of beginners for riding motorcycles. Have the ridden bicycles, skateboards, dirt bikes, atvs, etc? Any experience in moving faster than walking/running where you have to maintain balance is a great start already. A lot of people who are brand new to something aren't going to be comfortable right off the bat with it. I personally started out on a 50cc scooter and quickly got bored with it. In terms of actually riding a motorcycle, I started out with a 1978 Honda Cx500-c. It's a fun bike, have gotten it to 85 mph, old but good. I just upgraded 2-3 weeks ago to a 2024 Ninja 650 w/ ABS, and let me tell you that while both are motorcycles, and both could be ridden by anyone as a starter, they are different. The Honda you won't flip, it weighs 500 lbs or so, and doesn't have the power. The 650 can wheelie, stoppie, probably fairly easliy loop if you're not careful (idk, I have never looped a bike). Personally, I think before anyone rides, they should do their research, looks for a lower end power bike but in the category they want (unless they know for a fact what bike they want specifically), and before they buy any bike, I would have them do a rider safety course and get their endorsement along with some practice. In the end, everyone is their own person, and they'll do what they want regardless, the best we can hope for is to be able to influence them towards the right decision for themselves.
It’s this simple… if you can fully understand the ergonomics and how a motorcycle actually works even if you’ve never ridden you can ride any bike on the road. My first and current bike is a cbr 954rr Fireblade. I know a few people with mt-07s and they ARE ABSOLUTELY beginner bikes and I would recommend them to beginners who don’t want a shitty little R3.
Mt07 is a solid beginner bike never ridden I’d say definitely consider ur other options but it’s v torquey not super fast and the suspension is meh which helps really lock in those simple maneuvers but I’m confident any responsible person would be fine on an mt07
Yea skip the mt07 and get the Mt09 lol
started on a 2015 fz07 2 years ago, 18 years old now and I can say as long as you're easy on the throttle until you get used to the torque, its a perfect first bike.
Something you could do if you're a total noob is buy a 180/60 rear tire without changing the sprockets. This would take a lot of the balls out of the bike and make it way more rookie-friendly. I did this with my FZ1 and it helped me not wreck it as a beginner, I got a 190/55 back tire and didn't change the sprockets.
yeah i just picked one up and it’s my first time ever riding (got a 15 fz07) and it’s really easy to control and weave around. i’m totally fine with it and everyone who has ridden a lot has loved it
Hey man, I’m a beginner rider and pretty much have no experience on motorcycles. No dirt bikes or anything, just the MSF course and I picked up a 2019 MT07 as my first bike literally last Wednesday and so far it’s going pretty well. I’m 17 and for me the main few things that I’m having difficulty with are learning clutch control, like at a stop light, and dealing with the weight at lower speeds like taking off from a stop or stopping at a light. If you’re a beginner and you’re thinking, “I should probably start off with a 300 or 400 as a first bike I’m kinda scared of the power” don’t be. As long as you aren’t a speed demon who goes full throttle every chance you get and you know a thing or two about being smooth on the throttle you could easily learn on this bike and ride it as your first. Like I said I just got this bike a week ago and only rode it a few days now but so far it’s going great, just know that if a 17 year old with zero experience can handle the power then you probably can too.
Thanks for this. I’m 17 and have zero experience on bikes, first time im gonna get on one is the MSF course in April.
@streetbutter6935 I bought mine when I was 20 and only had about 6 months on a grom, 23 now and I've seen some people start on these and crash them in a couple of months. It's possible to start on, I kinda did it lol, but just gotta be careful
It’s not about being able to handle the power, it’s about learning how to use the power. I glad you are being careful with the throttle but eventually you’ll get in a situation where you’re going to have to twist that throttle so just keep in mind that this particular bike is known for violent power wheelies. I’m sixty years old and have been riding since 1969 . I have also been racing motorcycles since the mid eighties. When I left the dealership on my new 2021 mt07 the front tire didn’t touch pavement until 4th gear. This thing is a hoot!
@@GenericExotics I will, thanks
Going to get my A2 license in April and looking to buy an older MT-07 because my friend recommended it over R3.
Just bought the 23 MT-07 as my first bike a few months ago and it couldn't be going better. I absolutely love it. Never rode dirt bikes as a kid but I did grow up on the back of a Goldwing as a passenger with over 200k km's travelled throughout my life.
As a 35 year old who just bought an MT-07 as his first bike, I 100% believe that if I bought a bike when I was 20, I'd be dead. I was driving my car at 150+ mph when I was 18. I waited until I knew I could trust myself with a bike before I bought one, and I took the MSF course. So far my top speed on the bike is like 60 mph for 2 seconds lol
I’m 35 an are considering doing my bike test as my cars days are over with having a family now. Only thing putting me off is the factor that bike are more dangerous, I had a pretty quick car for many years ( vw r32 mark 4 ) but crashed my old pug so I wised up and became more aware of my driving. I think I’d carry the same principles to driving a bike an obviously having kids now but is it worth the risk 😅.. how you manage to get a mt07 for your first bike? Did you not need to drive a 125 to learn first no?
@@hoa3512 I went to a dealership and bought it haha. I am recently single, and have no kids, so I felt it was the perfect time to get a bike.
@@hoa3512if your in the UK and over 24 you can do your CBT, Mod1 and mod2 and ride anything you want
What kinda car you had in 2000s that went that fast at 18 damn
@@NoisyTownRider 2006 Cobalt SS Supercharged with about 320 whp.
I did my direct access on the MT07 and that was after a 10 year break with only 125cc experience. Got to say after learning how to control the MT at slow speeds i felt totally comfortable. It will do what you tell it to, the only time this bike would be an issue is if youre doing things you shouldnt be doing on public roads. The abs inspire confidence, you have an engine capable of handling city commuting and motorway rides, its comfortable and on top of that it doesnt break the bank to get your hands on one. Im not sure how different the training is in other countries to legally be able to ride this but in the UK you're given proper training to be able to handle this kind of bike.
I agree with you, having passed my cbt this week you can learn alot on a 125cc bike. In the UK people don't understand how bad our roads are with traffic, narrow and often wet with potholes. Also road positioning is key. I was going direct access to get a ninja 400 but decided experience on a 125cc will be far more helpful then jump straight to a middleweight after a few miles under my belt
Americans can basically buy bikes with no training so something like the mt07 is too big for them. For the uk this advice doesn't really apply.
As you described a 20 year ish with a few bucks i bought an mt 07 2020 last summer and i have been learning from it from the day i got it, hit the track a few weeks ago to try and learn to ride better and for me it is a very nice bike if you are nice with it and dont throw the gas and pop a 360 in first gear also a good bike if u want to learn some basic maintenance because it is very easy to work on this platform and do a lot of mods.
Hey Eric! I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your video! I'm in the process of getting my first bike, and after a year and a half of research, I've set my sights on the MT-07. At 30 years old and standing at 6'4", I feel like I bring a level of maturity and careful consideration to this decision that may not be as common in younger riders.
I believe that I have the patience, caution, and reserve needed to ease into riding the MT-07 comfortably. It seems like a bike that will not only be a great fit for me now but also serve me well for many years to come. The torque factor keeps things exciting while the upright position promises a comfortable commute, which is important to me.
I've heard amazing things about the sound of the MT-07, especially after replacing the stock exhaust - I can only imagine how incredible it must be in person! While I appreciate your perspective, after all my research, I truly believe that the MT-07 is the right choice for me. Thank you for the video, and you can count on me as a subscriber!
Hey man i just bought my 2023 version in October, its been gr8, i had my A2 license in a Z400 and felt it was alright, but this bike is just awesome, u just got to be careful with the throttle altho im not saying i didnt get any scary situations, cuz i did, in the first month i dropped my bike on a full stop (happens), after that, i got some confidence with it, and every single week on the first month i was getting an "accident" (nothing to serious), ill admit it, i drive it in a fun way, even tho now in my country its rainy so i dont usually go crazy on it now, i believe this is a perfect first bike to be honest, i have the 35kw version but i run it on the 55, and man i couldnt have bought a different bike this is perfect to learn, the thing i need to practise more is leaning since i still have 1cm or more to use on the rear tyre xD. One thing i would like to know its, how do you pop up that wheel so smoothly on second gear, i gave alot of gas on first gear and the wheel barely lift of the ground, one time it actually spin (lost traction) but it didnt lift, i would like to learn how to wheelie but dont want to crash my bike xDD Thank you for the video!
As long as you get restricted version in the beginning it is a good bike to start on. But I do agree, 55kW (+kW from aftermarket exhaust) on this cp2 engine is more than should beginner has. Sometimes it could be even more deadly than 600cc as you get really decent amount of torque in low rpms.
Yea, I had this conversation not too long ago, I think the CP2 is more dangerous for a complete beginner than a 4-cylinder 600, especially the R6 because it's got no low-end torque.
All just opinions though, anything is possible.
just took away my restrictor
Your comment about straight line speed is spot on!
Nah... I'd say that with my 100kgs on a 125 Yamaha XSR Legacy Edition even medium hills cause trucks to catch up with me and tailgate me. Not too safe. Starting now my big bike licence and looking towards MT07.
i actually started on a MT-07, im actually having a blast! besides the wind kinda sucks sometimes. but, i do agree with how easy it is to pop a wheelie. did it my 2nd day owning it lmfao
I got MT 07 2023 A2 i am about to unlocked it in few months my opinion i think i made the right choice bcs i didnt wanted to buy 400cc and then sell it to get 700+ cc bike
100% agree. Guys remember, purpose of your first bike is to LEARN TO RIDE. 300-400cc bikes are lot more appropriate Its too much power for someone not responsible. I started on MT 07 when I was 30 years old. Honestly, about first 1k miles I was pretty scared of the bike and wasnt learning much. Just surviving the bike. There is no f**ing way I would allow my 20 years old me to start on MT-07. For beginner it really feels like a damn rocket. Eventually, I grew into it but there are just better tools to learn the basics (safely) than MT-07.
Just get a Duke 390 / Z400 / Ninja 400 / R3 / DRZ400
My driving school had MT-07 as learning bike. But we dont have these quick-learning schools like USA. My license took 14 weeks to complete so i had a decent amount of time to practise. And i fell in love with the MT-07 so much so i bought one after license was done. Its a perfect starter bike if you have a steady foundation to learn on. EU laws are very different in what kind of experience you need to have and learn before getting the license.
I'm in the US, and I hate that they didn't do any on the road training... you do everything in a parking lot... very, very basic stuff...
I was terrified going out on to the road for the first time... I've been taking baby steps with and just commuting to work basically...
I had to teach myself what and how to use engine braking...
Thankfully I started on an mt03, and it's a very easy bike to learn to ride on, and fun too!
I started riding on a 21’ Mt 07 the torque at first was a little much but after a while u know throttle control and it’s a rather easy bike to ride as long as u respect it. It has the power down low but if u ever take it on the highway expecting to go fast like over 220km/h then it’s not your type of bike. It’s a perfect around town back road bike though and with a proper exhaust sounds amazing
The R7/MT07 definitely arent beginner bikes, but if a person wants to start on it its 100% doable. Just takes some sense of responsibility and maturity.
I started on my stepdads 2000 GSXR 750, but I also spent like a month (off and on, college) doing drills, getting used to the throttle, breaks, shifting, and studying the MSF and manual before I even considered going out of my neighborhood streets. Didnt help I live near Memphis where driving fast is the norm.
Because of that though (a year later)Ive never had a moment where I bit off more than I could chew, and both highway and city riding feel perfectly in control.
Understand what it is youre riding, and treat it as such
In sweden we got MT7 and CB650R as practice bike in traffic school and myself consider to buy a CB650R. Now i am 31 dont have drive license because other things came to my life that was more important but i drived 883 Sportster and that sure was abit harder.. it was a 04 model or somewhere there and i remember the clutch was hard and i didnt rly like it but i manage it. The turns wasn't rly the best either. The sportster was lowered too.
But i practice like 2 times on a carpark then on regular street to highway. No experience with any 2 wheeler with engine before and at that time i was around 21 years old if i remember correctly.
I have a freind that got his license 2 years ago with not much experience either with bikes and he bought a Suzuki gsx 750 that he practice on and took license on aswell. That bike he drives crazy with now and u cab hear him coming miles away even got tickets just few weeks after he got license. 😂
I dont know about mt7 but Honda has that system to stop wheelie to happen and most bikes have all those fancy system for braking and etc.
When u start to practice its kinda obvious u have respect for the throttle and not like hand twisting and make a wheelie 😂
Or any other foolish movement.
Plus it comes to the teacher to inform you about thinks u may not know about.. plus yourself should be interesting to get more info on how things work. Thats how i am atleast.
I heard few of my workers to say i should buy a older bike etc bla bla.. becuse i can fall with a new bike..
I can fall even with license and probably higher risk at that time becuse u will test your limits more 😅
It just annoys me some people try to stop u buy the bike u want. I can clearly understand if it was bike with 190hp and expensive insurance as hell.. i get it. But these middle cc bikes are decent price cheap insurance because most of them are classed as Touring and not sport bike. MT7 ain't a overkill sure it's a easy wheelie bike but u wont do that as a beginner if u are not a motocross experience guy 😅
I give thumps up to anyone that buys a decent modern one that they sit good on and have feet on the ground.
Becuse most bikes will stop u from wheelie and u can change the respond too on some bikes plus it comes to you how u handle it but aslong u are easy on throttle u will learn your limits pretty quick.
I think 600-800cc bikes are the normal standard starter bike most people buy here in sweden.
I have a ninja 400, and I've been riding for about a year now on it, and I was looking at the ZX6R, but after looking into the MT07 I like it more because I do city riding and I think it would be perfect for how I ride, I don't care about top speed, but I do like being quick, and comfortable, like a balance between slow and fast but I'm not for the way 600s make you hunch. I love the naked bikes for many reasons, and I think I'm ready for an MT07
A Ninja 400 to MT07 is a very doable jump as the MT07 isn’t a ton quicker then the Ninja 400 believe it or not, especially at higher speeds. From a low speed roll the MT07 will get a good jump, but if you do a 70 mph roll the MT07 will probably only get a bike length on your Ninja 400. Weight/aero makes a big difference at higher speeds…
Get a 09
I did my licence on that exact model in EU so dunno what you're on about i think it's a great beginner bike
yes same, this bike is so fun
About to end my course on mt 07 and I'm going to do the exam on it.
They don't have license courses in US though. They just go and buy motorcycles like bikes. So it's good advice for them (probably)
Just a quick question. What bars you have on that? Looking to replace stock for a set of low bend bars
Pro Taper Carmichael bend. I think it's discontinued though
hi idk if ull reply but im 19yo rn and i've never driven a bike but yes i do have some money to buy something of 5 grands. ik itll sound dumb but shall i go with the new triumph scram 400x. can i a scrambler to tracks? does the wide handlebar and higher seat height kills the fun of leaning? height wont be an issue as im 6'2. but can u help? are scramblers equally fun?
I learnt to ride watching a youtube video and bought a honda cmx500. Been awesome to ride for a year or so and looking to upgrade to an MT07. I'd honestly check out yammie noobs videos for beginner bikes, great channel and isn't a boring watch. Hope this helps and goodluck
Where are the crashed ones for sale at? Hopefully not copart
Im 24 and i bought SV650S as my first big bike (73HP and 65Nm) and its fun! I was doing my driving license on blocked MT07 and it was fun too, now i think that im gonna buy MT (unlocked).
1:43 spot on. i know few 20 years old who bought 07 without any experience, they all crashed in stupid ways like loosing conntrol of the bike. i personally think most people should outgrow a 400 first
hey i am wondering if i should get an fz/mt 07 for my first bike. what im not sure about is the fact that i have a cr80 two stroke and is that enough experience to get that as a first bike. i think i would be fine but i just want some reacurance. or should i get the mt09
Regardless of the bike it’s important to take enough driving lessons to feel confident and to drive sensibly on public roads.
in europe u can limit it to a2 and after it unlimit the bike and can use the whole power so in my opinion in this case its a good option
Speaking more for the US, it's an 8hr course a 2-minute test and anyone can buy any bike they'd like with 0 experience
@@GenericExotics that sucks bruh, here in europe u need to have 30 hours of practical driving time + pass the course with cones in order to ride 600cc and more and u must be 24 years old, its pretty strict
@prodbypjay7148 Yeah at age 18 in the US you can spend $100 for a weekend course to get your motorcycle license. Very little training is required. Just gotta do some figure 8's for the final test.
In a handful of states, it's just a written exam.
Yoo, keep with the good work!🤙
I started on an mt07. 2022 brand new. Took my msf course right before I got it but was a total bike noob. No joke the bike was a LOT at first.. BUT, with some discipline I actually learned the bike fairly quick. You just have to respect the hell out of it or things could get out from under you pretty quick. With that said I was 28 when I started.. I’m pretty sure as reckless as I was in my early 20s I would definitely have done something stupid with that much power to start with.
Same story I laid my down on way home from dealer brand new mt7 .got it back and really enjoy this tq e bike.got my first wheelie last week by accident in 2nd on hard pull scared the shut out of me .500 miles on it now and pretty confident on it .just luv this bike
I was thinking about getting a mt07 as a first bike but tbh I’ve never really riden a bike. I’ve riden quads so I have throttle experience. But after seeing this video I might just stick with the mt03 or the r3
im 16 with a 2015 mt07 as my first bike and its perfect. i love it and it is the best first bike.
I started on a new Yamaha R7 and me personally i just went easy on the throttel managment because of how pricey it was and it was new so i couldnt even drive it to its limit but if you go easy i think its perfect as a beginner bike you got fun torque to play with and not to slow or to fast
coming from the msf course would you rec the r7?
@@Firekids147 idk what experience you get from msf in america nor your skill lvl but i had no problems at all with the bike i had in driving school and less with the r7 and power is managable linear and overall good yes.
R7 for the win dude🔥✌🏽 i have an R7 as my first bike and would recommend for anyone looking to ride long term.
Plenty of speed and torque for the road but definitely not overpowered at all 🤣
Got the mt 07 as my first bike never ridden before, i really enjoy it.
Got my first bike last year. A 2000 Suzuki Hayabusa, rode 1200 miles last summer. No problems what so ever, great bike. Lucky it comes with an adjustable throttle which can be easily controlled with your wrist ;)
What exhaust do you got on that it sounds nice?
looks like a two brothers to me
Hello there, I'd like to seek some insights. I'm considering the MT07 as my first big bike. With nearly 5 years of experience riding manual with clutch and automatic motorcycles ranging from 100 to 200cc, do you think it's suitable for me? Thank you.
Absolutely, after 5 years you know how to ride and will find it a breeze handling the power and the extra weight
hell yeah.. without a doubt
great video your going to be big fr keep it up
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Technically didn't start on one. Had an Onyx RCR moped prior, which had similar to 250cc MX bike torque. My 2021 MT-07 is my first motorcycle with a clutch, and gearbox. I recently dropped it because i took iut out before we got a solid rain to wash the roads, went over loose sand, and gravel by my house. Now, I'm doing physical therapy on my leg to reduce the scar tissue. Bike starts up good still. Only damage was to the frame slider end, kickstand, and debris in the break caliper.
Once I get used to the bike, and have gotten a few years out of it, I want a Tracer 9 GT+. Just wish there was a track in my area for track days.
I'm 18 and I want to get Kawasaki Z650 as my first motorcycle, I do have 3 years of experience riding a 300cc moped.
Mt07 was my first motorcycle, although I did start on a Yamaha Xmax 300 scooter for 6 weeks to learn how to ride without worrying about gears. All my friends were saying the mt07 would be too torquey, that I’ll be too aggressive on the throttle, and whatever else people say… Honestly, after almost 10 months and 2 tracks days on this bike, there is no other bike I would rather have started on. It’s really hard to lift the front wheels up unless you’re literally going full pin from 1st gear. Even in 2nd it’s hard to pull up the front wheel unless you clutch up. But I’m not sure why people say this isn’t good for beginners. Maybe if you’re 18 years old and have zero self control, then yeah I can see that (I’m 36 and started riding at 35). Great bike that I still have along with my Tracer 900. I’l have converted the 07 to my track bike that I also use on the street.
Good video tho
I’m 21 with an r7 I personally like it for the torque and power throughout the rev range
I just started riding motorcycles in 2023 in Germany. Got my A2 license so the my mt-07 is restricted to 48ps/35kw roughly. Im 20 years old and since there are no PS/KW restrictions in the USA i completely agree with you. I have ridden the unrestricted 07 before and my god its a lot crazier than the restricted one so if you buy a mt-07 as a beginner i would suggest restricting it. :) But that only goes for speed demons like me who absolutely love the adrenaline. But after a week in the alps i was pretty much acustomed to the bike.
I started on an R125 and then got the R7 six months later - I consider myself a beginner and the R7 is perfect, plenty of fun, nothing bad happens when you twist the throttle fully, amazing handling. To be honest I can see myself riding this for the next 10 years as it's perfect for UK roads and I'm not really a track bro.
I toatly agree with you on the 300s i had my mt03 for a year and was still not bord of it but then i upgraded to the mt07 for my second bike and i don't see my self selling it.
hello man i have a mt 07 and i would like to have the same handlebars as you got in this video. Do you know wich handlebars are they ? thanks
Pro taper 7/8ths Carmicheal Bend. Got them powdercoated though
thanks :)@@GenericExotics
Started on a CBR 600f PC35 (1995)
Now i am riding a MT09 2015
But want to have a 1000cc dont know if S1000RR, R1 or MT10
I think I'm going for an R1 next, I love the MT-09 I hate how it looks lol
Alright you kinda nailed this on the head for me lol. I'm 20, have a little money, and want something I can commute to work with and rip through some twisties with. However, I've got probably 50 hrs on dirt bikes 125-400cc, and I can handle that 400 just fine on sketchy trails. I'm used to driving semi-fast manual cars, I'm a 6'2" 185lb dude, I guess I don't think an MT-07 is that unreasonable. Plus you can get them used for like the same prices as a ninja 400 abs.
these are what we learn on in the UK for mod 1 and mod 2 along with the cb650r and z650 they are perfect beginner
I passed my driving tests on an MT 07. Bought a Grom as my first bike.
Just bought my own mt-07 with the experiance going from 50 cc bikes, 125 bikes and 450 cc bikes and I can’t stress this enough. The mt-07 IS NOT a beginner bike, the bike has so much torque and it’s fun and all because I have gas control and have some experience behind me but just for your own good, start on a bike with MAX 50 hp and under.
I started on a Cbr500r, rocked it for 15k miles for a year and a half… learned the chops…. Then traded it for an rs660… and I wouldn’t change anything if I could.
I'm a new rider. Never really used a clutch. I got the r7 for my first bike after selling my Ryker 900. Saying the R7 is for beginners is a stretch. Learning throttle control with a torquey bike is not easy. Also with the super aggressive stance you'll be sore until those muscles groups get used to it.
I mean yeah that makes sense. But I’m going to buy a bike I want to keep for as long as possible and not get tired of. So I’m going to get an R7. I’m 25 and am getting my license at the end of February. I just know I won’t get over confident and start tryna ride like I got years of experience
so I'm looking into buying my first bike i don't care about stunts or track days what should i go for
Mt03 or ktm duke 390 or z400
Best part about starting on a smaller bike is being able to ring its neck 24/7
no one talking bout what happened at the end of video
I said the same thing about people getting bored of a small bike like a 400. They scared to lean the bike is what I hear from them. They call me crazy for wanting to lean the bike but it's made to do that.
I started on a sv650 about 9 years ago, had it for 2 years. And left the scene.
Picked up a 2018 MT07 at 27. Wish I would’ve got this first, I would’ve never left the scene lol.
I'm currently looking at a SV650 and MT07, what are the reasons you prefer the MT07? I dont have street riding experience, I only dirt bikes (Husqvarna TX300) and i'm trying to decide which one would i feel more comfortable riding on the streets.
I would consider myself beginnerish but I am a bit older. Got about 3000 miles under my belt. Just rode about 400 miles during last week with the MT07 and I see where your coming from. The torque needs some getting used to. But it’s ok if your not messing around and asking for trouble. If I would be in the beginning of my 20s I would be messing around and asking for trouble :D
I got a used fz9 two years ago and only things i upgraded are the ECU flash, brake pads and tires. People are so quick to mod everything but cant even outperform the bikes stock shit 😂
the driving school i learn uses the mt-07. i like the feel and respons of the bike. i haven't driven any other bike or scooter before. in my oppinion if you start out easy and pickup the pace from there it is a good bike to start on.
I had a FZ6. More HP than the MT07 but easy going under 8k rpm. It did not pick up the wheel in second gear like that.
bought my mt07 at 32 and i still pushed it to the limits going 140mph(odo speed), i was riding a 500 before that and while you do get used to the highway pulling speed pretty quick, from stop to stop this thing can rip your arms off if you're not careful. If i was 16-18 i would probably be dead, at that age i was already jumping dirt mounds with an old cavalier z24 lmao
Some people are more responsible, or pay attention to everything going on better, but it’s easy to get distracted especially on a bike..
‘16 fz-07 was my first bike brand new after MSF course, did lots of upgrades just under 8 years riding it.
I’d agree about taking track days to understand the capabilities of a bike and the rider’s potential, but not everyone was born to be a Rossi.
Every ride should be a new lesson, even if it’s a quick trip, always strive to be a better rider/practice slow maneuvers, don’t plateau and get complacent.
Im still on my 400 after 7 years; it's all a beginner/intermediate needs
Finally someone talked about it
I’m a beginner and I’d beg to differ. As long as one is profoundly responsible and respectful of the power in the throttle, you should be fine. I have not once put myself in any danger as a newbro on my r7.
Starting with a 686cc is probably better than starting with a 200/300cc and moving up. Also much better having greater power if taking it on highway speeds rather than an r3 that will have less of a throttle response at higher speed, plus the added wear of running higher RPM’s on the highway
I recently had a chance to ride mt-07 and holy fuck... when I sat on it, it felt like mine CB 125R but when I open the throttle it almost jump from beneath me... it feels very light and nimble like 125 but boosted to the limit
does it matter if i put 93 or 87 gas in my mt07?
The owners manual says 87 octane. R+M/2
Certain feauture such as trace control should be put at least as an option even on lower CC model, and for who like, even cruise control and quick shifter also.
While on 125cc make no sense put CBS instead of ABS.
As with everything else in life, it depends on the individual. I do not believe the MT07 has an unmanageable amount of power for most people. You just have to respect the bike. That is not so much a measure of skill as it is mentality. I do believe that most people who’d crash an MT07 would also promptly crash a 300 because it’s simply the way they ride.
I started on one, Only because I saw a lot of MT03’s for sale with less than 1000kms… I figured there must be a reason! But yes it is very quick, in my late 30’s and paid cash though… so not quite the target audience.
Iv rode bikes from a kid and mid 30s now I find it's alot more fun driving a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow if that makes sense lol the mt03s are alot of fun also or smaller again the mt125s. People watch a few TH-cam videos of idiots racing down the highway and think they could do that and end up scrubbed lol even the most experienced riders get caught out, all it takes is someone to pull out Infront of you. Ride safe bro 👍
I agree. I had the same mt07 as you do.. I live in Croatia, where people are taking a driving license on mt07, which is, in my opinion, wrong. Mt07 is a torque bike, and for beginners, it is not a good bike to start with.. for the second bike is fine 😁. In my case, it was my first bike, but I am old enough to remain calm when driving 😁
Be safe and have fun!
Nothing is too fast if you have self control.
As long as you show the respect needed it's just fine
This was my starter bike and I think I can confidently say in hindsight at this point, that I could of definitely started on a 1000cc
Im turning 16 soon and looking to get an mt 07 and i have rode dirtbikes all my life so yall think ill be good on an mt07?
Be very careful in 1st or 2nd gear!!! Unlike a dirtbike, your back tire will NOT spin out on dry pavement, so it will be completely different from 0mph to 30mph. After that, it will be more similar.
Good, but respect it's power
0:18 no need to call me out like that haha, just picked up a z400, mt07 will def be my second bike once I learn the ropes some more.
Coming from a 125, it took me precisely two turns to get used to it. It's a perfect first "big bike", but with zero experience; maybe not, if im honest.
Hey man, I did a video about this. I don't agree with you but I do. Personally, a 300 for me is too small but that also has to do with the fact that I am 6"2 and 200 pounds. I believe that the MT07 is actually great compared to other nakes like the Ducati Monsters. it really comes down to the individual. if you have self-control and are too tall for 300cc definitly look at 600+ where you won't feel like Donkey Kong riding a bicycle 😂
is the r7 and mt07 use the same frame?
Yes, but handlebars on r7 is a bit lower and the rearset higher to make it feel more sporty
That’s the thing 90% of people who own a bike don’t do any track days, stunting, or push themselves on windy/curvy roads and neither do they want to. Most of the U.S is highways and you have to ride an hour out if you live in a big city.
I got the tracee700 as my first bike, no regrets. No desire to upgrade either. 30 f
I totally agree. A beginner bike shouldn’t power wheelie in 2nd gear and clutch up in 4th
wow. i totally disagree. why spend 5k on bike when you can spend a lttle more to power wheelie . thats insane. go buy a moped
I tend to agree. I just bought my MY-07 after many years of driving. If I had bought this in my early twenties I would have been way too dangerous.
Take it easy for a few weeks and you get used to the torque pretty quickly.
I hated the gear box so much I got rid of it after 6 months. Great bike, but clunkiest gear box ever.
Great explanation 💯
Ok I’m a learner in Australia.
The version of the MT-07 learners have access to have throttle resticors air intake restrictions and a different ecu program also different engine capacity I’m pretty certain don’t quote me on that last one but I think the LA version is 655cc where as the other version known as the MT-07HO Ho stands for high output has a 689cc.
In Australia there the MT-07LA the LA stands for learner approved. I’ve got a 2023 model yes I’m a little older 34. And yes I rode dirt bikes but that was 15 years ago. The dirt and the road are completely different animals so are the bikes. Mind you I’ve only had the bike for 3 days and been out on it twice the learner version seems pretty tame as long as you have at least a rough idea of what your doing. I’d have to agree with you if you’ve never touched a bike before then this one is probably best to stay away from. I know if you panic which most learners will do and grab that throttle and eat pavement. Even when taking off learners tend to rev it abit harder. If you stall panick and give it to much throttle you’ll be on one wheel. I personally wouldn’t even recommend a 400cc to a learner I’d say get a 250cc-300cc they’re light enough and usually they’ll be more forgiving. To a complete noob though I’d say get a 125cc. They’ll have a lot of other things to focus on while out and about learning last thing they need to worry about is flipping the bike.
A noob can go MT7 it rly depends on yourself as a person how u handle the bike plus your teacher to inform you what your bike can do and how to avoid situations.
If the noob is a full throttle guy and yeah makes wheelie he shouldn't even be on a bike in first place or a car if that's how the person does things when learning.
Most noobs/beginners when I talk to them they seem to already know how things work with clutches etc because they watch a lot of videos on TH-cam and generally talk about bikes because they are very interested in it.
I never heard in my circle that someone was foolish enough to do those dumb things haha..
But I can recommend those in the EU if u are like 16 years old a lowered cc bike because u can't drive a bike with its max HP anyway... We have A2 restriction so u can possibly drive a big bike.. I don't remember if weight comes to the point but HP needs to be reduced.
I would just recommend you take the msf course and or/ have a buddy show you the basics on a dirt bike before you hop on the 07 if you’re dead set on getting one. Familiarize yourself with controlling a motorcycle and then take it easy at first and you’ll be ok
Started on a mt09, if you ride it in b mode the first couple of weeks you wont have a problem at all
Different league from 07 bro. 09 is 40 more hp and 20more ft lb torque with only 10 more pounds. The 09 in standard or A will bite a beginner in the ass very quickly, most people don’t have ur patience and whisky throttled the mt09’s, very dangerous for beginners.
A few years ago, reviewers were saying that the FZ-07 (the bike's previous name) was a terrible beginner bike because of its wheelie-inducing torque in lower gears. Then, suddenly, everyone is saying it's a *_great_* starter! I have no idea what changed, unless it was corporate pushback from Yamaha.
Well said
i have been riding for 9 years now and the mt 07 was my second bike it makes to much torqeu down low that can suprise a beginner with no throttle controlle it will wheelie to easy if you hold on to the bars and not with your legs
And for the tracer 700 ?
It's basically adventurised Mt 07
There's a lot to people and a lot to motorcycles. It would be nice to be able to simply say this IS a beginner bike and THIS is NOT a beginner bike, however it's not quite as simple as that. There are many levels of beginners for riding motorcycles. Have the ridden bicycles, skateboards, dirt bikes, atvs, etc? Any experience in moving faster than walking/running where you have to maintain balance is a great start already. A lot of people who are brand new to something aren't going to be comfortable right off the bat with it. I personally started out on a 50cc scooter and quickly got bored with it. In terms of actually riding a motorcycle, I started out with a 1978 Honda Cx500-c. It's a fun bike, have gotten it to 85 mph, old but good. I just upgraded 2-3 weeks ago to a 2024 Ninja 650 w/ ABS, and let me tell you that while both are motorcycles, and both could be ridden by anyone as a starter, they are different. The Honda you won't flip, it weighs 500 lbs or so, and doesn't have the power. The 650 can wheelie, stoppie, probably fairly easliy loop if you're not careful (idk, I have never looped a bike). Personally, I think before anyone rides, they should do their research, looks for a lower end power bike but in the category they want (unless they know for a fact what bike they want specifically), and before they buy any bike, I would have them do a rider safety course and get their endorsement along with some practice. In the end, everyone is their own person, and they'll do what they want regardless, the best we can hope for is to be able to influence them towards the right decision for themselves.
It’s this simple… if you can fully understand the ergonomics and how a motorcycle actually works even if you’ve never ridden you can ride any bike on the road. My first and current bike is a cbr 954rr Fireblade. I know a few people with mt-07s and they ARE ABSOLUTELY beginner bikes and I would recommend them to beginners who don’t want a shitty little R3.
In the Netherlands this is the most used bike by driving schools because the are excellent beginner bikes.
Mt07 is a solid beginner bike never ridden I’d say definitely consider ur other options but it’s v torquey not super fast and the suspension is meh which helps really lock in those simple maneuvers but I’m confident any responsible person would be fine on an mt07
Man im 22 i just bought this as my first bike, I dont evan have a license yet but i am getting used to riding it . Hopefully i dont kill myself