SIGNS YOUR SUBWOOFERS ARE GOING OUT!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ต.ค. 2022
- One of the most important aspects of subwoofers is longevity, however there are many different factors that play a roll in subwoofer upkeep. There are a few tell tell signs however, that make it easy to indicate when your subs are going bad, or when you need to take a look at them. Going to car shows for over a decade, I have myself not only blown subs, but have seen countless subs blown for many different reasons, so in this video I share my knowledge as to why this is the case!
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I've done a re-foam before on an old sub, it was pretty hard to keep the voice coil center but once I finished it sounded how it did when I first got it.
Bro don't care about the length of the video I like learning and the longer the video the more info i get so keep the on the good work
bro once its info and people willing to learn, thy will listen. As well when you are explaining in ABC form is good. For those who don't want to take time to learn they not ready yet. main thig too is every video on TH-cam has the amount of time before watching. so if there is any complains here is not for them. Respect to your teachings bro 100%👌💪
that zv6 looks huge!!!!
cannot wait to order one in the future
I know im little behind but ive been itching lately ...bass itching hah !!! You said it perfectly, i have a zv5 on a 2k cab that I bought five years ago n shelved em but a month into it and I either need more power or another sub and more power hah !!!
I replaced surrounds years ago at a stereo repair shop I worked for. Kits are out there.
To add to this , subwoofer sag. Usually happens after many years of use. Soft parts become weak an cause the woofer to sag. This con also cause failure as the woofer no longer has the stability of new non worn parts. Ive also seen this with subs that have sat in the same position for a long period of time (years).
Thanks, J.P. cause this needed to be addressed
Good grief... Back in the day we were happy with a pair of 12s on a 200w amp! We would boom around town all day with a smile! Now we need a 12 on 2k? I'll leave that to the kids getting tickets 😆!
1991-1992
500 hp used to be a lot.
56k modems used to be fast.
I remember using house speakers, just throwing the cabinet in the trunk and hooking them up to the tape deck in the dash that had 6 wires a power, ground and 4 speaker leads. I love the system I have in my car these days and the technology is awesome, but I miss those days....
@@jdmaddict77 I'm right there with you.
I have a 15 on 5000 watts I'm very happy with it and tbh I don't want any louder my ears hurt as is
ty sm for the loose dust cap info, very helpful
Very necessary information to share 🙌🏼
That bass bug…is the reason ive gone through 4 different brands😂😂😂
Thank you for this video, say no to clipping 😊👍👍
Thanks for this info. Even though I purchased a Skar Set up for my vehicle lil more than a year ago that I kept for maybe 2weeks. I really appreciate the info you put out. Since then I've upgraded to Def bonce and Sun Down Subs. I love what my vehicle sounds like. My JP23 Is Beast Mode. People can't believe I only have 2 !0's. Unfortunately my Deaf Bonce AHL-300.4 has one channel that is bad that run my Mids. Not sure if that is fixable but i have Bridged those speakers to share a channel. Next year i will probably upgrade. Not sure what your shop will have to offer but I know I will be returning.
I know more now after watching this.
Thanks 😊
My buddy just told me today he wants to upgrade because the bass isn't as loud to him. Meanwhile, I sit in there and it's Messing with my breathing. 😄
JP got a question what would be 2 good 12 to put what your JP333 and a 4 cf gately Box
What sub would be a good match for my JP23 1.5v . I currently have skar 12 evl dual 2 ohm . Sounds great but I think it could be better .
Hell ya bro love all the info it all helps out
Thanks for your time jp
Okay so I just bought a brand new sundown audio u series 12 and used it for a bit, now it’s sounds worse like a rattling ive narrowed it down to being the sun and I have no idea why it sounds like this now
I'm running four subs, and when bass hits or music is up one sub makes a loud screeching pop noise, something u explained does that mean my sub going bad??
When are you going to start black Friday??
so my car gets used to the vibrating aswell? the first one is BS for me tho, cuz sometimes my shit be shaking, other times it wont be as shaky as it was before
I want that tall sub sitting in front of you! What is that? Looks like a good Christmas gift from me, to me!😌
The foam kit they sell them on simply speaker website C Vega orange foam kit most popular speaker that rebuilt and probably infinity subs. It's a common problem in home audio that not used much that aren't abused. 👍👌✌️💯🎶🍻🥂
I've had my Orion xtr2 12's one my ex wife put a hole in....the other still works and they are old as dirt lol well I've had them since 2002 the coil is slowly looking ruff. Idk about my soundqubed I don't think they will last as long
0:54 Oh crap I think I’ve been bit. What do I do now? Single ATG12W3500 in a 2018 Dodge Durango R/T
JL has a re foam kit sundown should also makes life easier
I think people are asking about just a refoam because it's common on vintage speakers to just replace the foam and nothing else. Of course high powered subwoofers it's a different ballgame.
Got the avatar stu 12 from d4s to replace the sub i had but didn't think bout the box n the skar pre fab I have is to small need a 2 cubic ft box please help #basshead fam
One of my subwoofer voice coil is rubbing probably because I was slamming it to death?
can i use a jp23 for a sundown x12 v3? Someone help me please
I have two Gen 2 Rockford P3 12's they have to be at least 10+yrs old by now.
The surrounds are starting to get small cracks but otherwise they are fine.
The spider is very soft I am not sure if it's from so much wear or if it was designed that way.
I have the gen 1 p3s from the year 2000 they still rock but there 10s but there dual 4 10s and I also use my daily Rockford power hx2 12s in my daily from the year 2001 I got my purchased them new from circuit city back in the day those subs slam
@@rockfordhx2768 Hell yeah!
1:38 gotta ride with the bass lowered for a while to resensatize yourself to the bass.
Honestly might need to try this 🤣
Bs prince im running 2 Rockford power hx2 dual 2s from 2000 and there still going strong been in my daily’s since I had em I swear they still look new and there still stiff
JL audio w7 drivers had modular surrounds they were replaceable...
Ur right the bass ear bug lol
My magnet gets really hot 🔥 on my deafbonce 3012 😪😪.. & I'm only pushing 2k watts on it & it's inverted .. when the deep bass hit it sounds like there's a air leak ( meaning like the woofers loosen the bolts around the enclosure , but that's not the case..) magnet gets extremely 🔥 hot i really think it's a defect coil.. I went ahead & ordered a recone kit .. I'm just pissed maybe @ myself because I'm a DIY person and want to believe it's an error on my part during tuning.. trust me if it was a 700$ or more woofer I would've reached out to u or deafbounce asap..
When you see stitching around the surround you won't be able to re-foam it properly without doing the entire cone.
Nope your wrong. Anything can be redone just won’t have stitching after it being redone. They are 2 types of landings on a cone and you can cut the stitching pull the string and resurround.
Look at springfield audio...
It can be done, it's not hard to do, I did a few of them
You can still buy reforming kits for a lot of speakers and subwoofers I've done a ton of them sometimes that's all I need if they weren't abused
2:16 refoaming kits are a thing, but they are mostly only for home audio speakers that have glued surrounds. I've used a few on some old bookshelf speakers that I had from the 90s. but on a big ass sub with 50mm+ of xmax they won't cut it.
My sa v2 started clicking, so i had it reconed and its still clicking exactly the same so I bought the d4s box with 2 12 sa classic 😂
Hey guys, i just bought a DD 712f (1500 rms) and powering with T1500bdcp. I tuned amp to clipping at volume 30. But my dumbass installed the sub (in spec box) and immediately turned it to volume 32 with a bass heavy song for about 5 seconds. Coil started smelling (but not really bad like a blown sub, just enough for me to notice it’s getting hot), so I turn the volume down slowly and let it cool.
So basically I over powered sub (because Rockfords are underrated) with dirty clipped power. But I’ve been playing it below volume 30 for a few days now and it seems perfectly fine.
Should I worry that i lessened the subwoofers life? Or was it the glue on coil “breaking in”?
Thanks you guys
Hey JP I bought some sundown audio GT-R1 tweeters from you with some D4S bass blockers. I keep burning out the bass blockers. Is their a better one you sell or what else can I run that can handle the power ?
Set a hp filter on your amp or get shit directly from china
Should’ve used skar audio subwoofers as reference
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Okay I understand the bass bug but let's say I have two identical set up both in the same space same song same box but one has set has more bass then the other it doesn't sound quite the same but there nothing that sounds wrong with it either at almost full level. If I change to the other pair of the same sub I have of the same style and age it sounds lower tone of bass. There all still from factory. I seem a little strange that I can't find any wrong besides a little bit less bass. 🤔👍✌️👌💯 🎶🍻 The only difference is the set that sounds great has been used the hole time and the other pair with less bass have been stored and not really used but we're broken in slowly not like the first pair. 🤫✌️💯🎶🍻
You can buy new surrounds for vega subs, or at least you used to be able to
A short internet search will reveal subwoofer parts are pretty cheap and easy to get!
J.P, I can't hear you. What did you say?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can confirm that it won't sound as loud. I had 4 12s was sponsored by a shop but after a week or two I told the boss it isn't as loud and he laughed and said it's cuz your going deaf...I have had dust caps come off the coil scratch and tinsel leads separate from the woofer cone. I would say if your a bass head long enough you will experience some or all of these failures. Currently I run 2 rockford fosgate t2d2 12s 1200rms subs @2ohm off a rockford fosgate t2500bdcp this is a happy setup amp pushes up to 3500 watts rms and subs have been rocking going on 6 years now. Gotta plan your setupand appropriately match amp power to sub rated power and enjoyment will follow for many years
Man I've had MANY systems and probably about 20 pairs of subs in my life, never damaged a single sub. But I have never overpowered a sub. Biggest amp I've ever needed was 500w. I do have a 1500w amp but it's in the house on 4 12s!
You should know that the power coming to your subs aint as rated because its in an enclosure?
JL 12W6 can be refoamed. Done a few of them.
Thanks my bass head brother.
So what if they add something like rubber to ease the buttoming. They should design these amps with enough resistance to limit power so it never happens
Yea I’ve got a 6K on my 18” ZV6 😅
Same I want more
I'm looking for a 10 or 12" sub (in a sealed box, preferably about 1 cu ft or so), my RMS is 500w. Any suggestions?
Sundown E 12
Yep. Sundown is no joke.
I've got a JL W6 from well over a decade ago (but it's only been played minimally for the last 5 years), and it definitely has its limitations. It bottoms out sometimes even though it's a clean signal, a class D amp (JL 900.5) tuned properly, and the source audio is high quality (320kbps). The sub RMS is 375w and 1200w peak, and I'm only putting about 4-500w to it. I guess it's showing its age? Dunno really
Kicker comp 12"
I know it's crazy I have a DS 18 EXl 12 the 4000 watt one and it was perfect I put it in a closet for 2 months and now the surround is cracked
Lol the bass bug does bite us.
Still bangin' double hump vega 12's. One in the center console of my dodge ram and 2 in the trunk of my caprice.
It’s called going deaf
I can't hear you. What did you say?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jp what subwoofers do you run in your own vehicle?
He runs sundown. He has plenty videos of his setup/demos
I don't think he ment demo vehicle but I don't think he has any in the Audi the work truck has enough mid bass to sound like a small system
There will never be a refoam kit even though that would probably fix it and you could glue it just as they did when it was new but the refoam kit would only cost 10 bucks, a recone kit makes them a lot more money
Home speakers have refoam kits.
I had to change mines 3 times already... it's an addiction... guilty..
10:05 someone should make a woofer with infinite backplate
Its good info though
zv6 I’m gonna get one to match my zv5
Jp man whats the issue with u and american bass you opinion matter when i run your amps
Good video price uk 🇬🇧 Kay
So I would have 2 get a complete recone kit....okay then
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Hitting the back plate hello sub sonic
JP 👊🏽
Is it bad if there’s smoke coming from your subwoofer😂
that damn bass bug (cost me thousands)
I used to refoam subwoofers all the time. What do you mean you've never seen anyone put a new surround on? For $18 I can put new surrounds on 2 12" subwoofers. If it's torn or deteriorated it doesn't need a new cone or voice coil 😂
All this stuff about re-foaming is kinda like wtf 😳 🤣 re-foaming had been around for ever. Mainly for example I re-foamed my old 1997 JL audio 15w6v1s you cannot find original parts for those woofers. You can find a coil or spider assembly that is close but it will not be spot on. And no re-foaming isn’t “mainly” for home Audio either. Ppl re-foam door speakers. Subwoofers literally any speaker can be re-foamed. The reason it had been fazed out is bc manufacturers would rather go with a double stitched surround. Which is a upgrade over just normal ca glue. But The silver lining to that is typically just replacing the whole assembly rather than the foam. Also most manufacturers have upgraded the materials used for the surrounds. Trust me folks your sundown or skar or what ever you run atm more than likely isn’t using regular foam. Atleast it won’t start to deteriorate for 10 plus years. Hope this helps clear the air about re-foaming. Plz don’t murder me to hard in the comments👍
When you clip the shit out of them, have them in the wrong box, buy the wrong sub for your application, ect.
Its not that you got used to the bass. It's more because you lost some hearing.
No if it cracks and more recone the sub lol u cant refoam one
LOOK AFTER YOUR STUFF IT WILL LOOK AFTER YOU
8:47 lol
Oh bro these DB drive 12s I got this dudes psycho girlfriend stabbed the dust caps but there covered in e6000 look like shit but sound perfect doesn't effect the sound I'm gonna get new dust caps there cheap
Re cones yes not foam lol
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No.1 you give 1000 watts to a jensen xs 1212
It’s your ear holes
Are you kidding your editor can’t spell Bass 😅
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I’ll take that blown zv6 off your hands jp😂
I'd listen to jp he's forgot more about subs than most will ever know
You forgot the number one reason why people think their sub doesn’t hit as hard as it used to, cause the electrical system is not supplying the load the amp and sub need. Your alternator is not putting out enough amps and the batteries are drained.