Is YOUR SUBWOOFER facing the WRONG way? How we locate sounds explained!

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  • We all know that with midrange speakers and tweeters it is important to face them in the right direction and locate them in spots in our car audio system that allow us to achieve optimal sound quality. But why can the subwoofer be aimed the other direction? Why can it be basically anywhere in the vehicle? In this video I explain how we hear and locate sounds and why we can place our subwoofer box in different locations.
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  • @zakkwylde5545
    @zakkwylde5545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +719

    Came into this to know which way to face my sub, left with 5 credits towards my engineering degree.

    • @johnmiller7845
      @johnmiller7845 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lmfao 📠

    • @themonkster333
      @themonkster333 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      and still don't no what way to face my sub. Of course it is in the back. Were else am I going to put that huge box. Mine is facing up. 20yr old cracked Orion sub still hitting hard.

    • @Gospelbillyrebel24
      @Gospelbillyrebel24 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha

    • @caseyjones466
      @caseyjones466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣

    • @MattyJ36581
      @MattyJ36581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Top tier comment!

  • @donashcraft8617
    @donashcraft8617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Solid gold! I was able to get much better sound in my Jeep TJ after watching your previous two videos. People always say upgrading the stereo system in them is a waste of time, but really if you begin to understand how sound works you can make some drastic improvements fairly easily. Thanks for making videos like this. So unbelievably helpful!

  • @docwitch9969
    @docwitch9969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Im a medical student, i have also taken a few physics courses about sound. I learned a TON of information here, and you are doing a great job of explaining this in terms where everyone can understand while being accurate, Very good video, wow.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Good to have it appreciated. Unfortunately we live in tik tok society where everyone just wants a 3 second answer rather than understanding WHY the answer is what it is. Glad some people out there still enjoy learning

    • @mr.c0stell0
      @mr.c0stell0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CarAudioFabrication I really appreciate that mentality brother! I love long format and loathe the short format, especially with this topic.

    • @DeezLouize
      @DeezLouize 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CarAudioFabrication well 10 MINUTES later we still have no clue which way our subs should be facing..

  • @Mark-wp4lw
    @Mark-wp4lw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Another great video from CAF. I'm in the process of acquiring components for my first build and I am using the knowledge gained from these videos to aid in my quest for better sound! Thank you for what you do Mark!

    • @denniswalker1640
      @denniswalker1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good luck on your first system, now the bass bugs,has got you,welcome to the bassheads, basshead lifer!!!!

    • @denniswalker1640
      @denniswalker1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are a ton of car audio shows, welcome !!!

  • @SoulReaperJay1
    @SoulReaperJay1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Ported enclosure, subs facing up, ports facing up in a 2005 Tacoma. Just recently found your channel, love the videos, very well done.

    • @MikeCodere23
      @MikeCodere23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just curious cause I have a Colorado, what speakers and air space do you have with them. And I'm assuming with the options you had you chose the best sound.

    • @SoulReaperJay1
      @SoulReaperJay1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeCodere23 Using 2 JL Audio 8W1-V3 drivers, each one is in .5 cu ft of air space.

  • @EivindFlores
    @EivindFlores 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great video!
    The tiny stock sub was in the rear deck facing down into the truck.
    The new bigger and much heavier sub is still in the rear deck, but now facing up since that's the only that giant magnet could sit into the original opening.

  • @rulerpaco
    @rulerpaco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I love the speakers facing back, I feel like the sound wave blends is a lot nicer like this.

  • @emilianomartinez4083
    @emilianomartinez4083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not me looking at the tiny speaker on my phone and understanding how I know that I'm looking at the place the sound is coming from and how my brain is doing it, but this time with more of an understanding of the way it works. This video was extremely informative!! Thank you so much!! I'm doing my first subwoofer and amp install for my car this week and was trying to decide placement in my car for the sub and I think you've helped me make a way more informed decision!!

  • @Yohann67
    @Yohann67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Years ago I had a 1990 Grand Am with an ADS sub with 2 10’s(sealed). I had worked for many hours tuning the crossovers and levels to get a balanced sound and I had to face the box down and backwards (swivel brackets included). When I sold the car to a teenager he immediately pulled out the 2 10’s and dropped in a Pioneer ported box with 3 12’s facing forward. It took him a couple of hours of frustration to give up and put he ADS box back in and suck up the loss of ego by having 2 10’s instead of 3 12’s. He was in disbelief that I got such a “small box” to sound that good. Interestingly we listened to vastly different music........

  • @PankajMohan
    @PankajMohan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Bruh, you went Engineering Explained!

    • @daniellegeorgia5797
      @daniellegeorgia5797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hello everyone...

    • @marcoliocops
      @marcoliocops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Full bio

    • @cylelance4307
      @cylelance4307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You never go full Engineering Explained! 😂

    • @harmansingh-nx2ve
      @harmansingh-nx2ve 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @harmansingh-nx2ve
      @harmansingh-nx2ve 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @WaZeOne87
    @WaZeOne87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today this video was very helpful. I'm currently making my own custom false floor sub box (and man oh man is your channel a wealth of knowledge to help!). And my dad asked if having it point forward would be better than my intended upwards direction. I told him that with low frequencies it basically didn't matter directionally, like it does with higher frequencies. But my explanation was "it is just known" lol cause I didn't know the actual answer.. But the discussion prompted us to search, and here we are. We were both pleasantly educated, and it settled the discussion that my plan was perfectly fine lol. Great stuff and great channel.
    I was actually able to explain to him about it being under a solid "false floor" was also ok, because longer (lower) wavelengths are much better at penetrating through objects. It might be slightly muffled vs open, but that's why it'll be removable to show off the sub lol. So I kinda was already on the right track. LOL
    p.s. posted only a month ago... IT'S LIKE YOU KNEW I WOULD HAVE THIS DISCUSSION o.O (illuminati meme music)

  • @dnaadkins6706
    @dnaadkins6706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve read more on this subject lately than any other part of the build and you explained it better than anyone else has. I have a single Infinity Kappa 10 and the best placement I’ve found for SQ in my Civic is facing forward but I also have my trunk closed off with an amp wall. The bass is loud and tight and blends in with the fronts (which are also Infinity Kappas) like it should. I referenced many of your videos during my build and they helped me make decisions to achieve greatness in both build and sound. Keep doing what you do man! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

  • @mar0isa8
    @mar0isa8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great example of why TH-cam is better than our education system. In this environment, the "teacher" is rated by thumbs up so we have access to experts in the field and they get paid for doing a great job. Thank you!

  • @danielhearn4036
    @danielhearn4036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome info. I do car and motorcycle audio. We face our LF woofers and subs firing in from saddlebags under rear fender. This is great information....

  • @harrisdoesthings
    @harrisdoesthings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man what a good lesson this video was, thanks!

  • @hinchadahe
    @hinchadahe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have 2 12tw3 downfire with GB60 in my doors in my 2020 Chevy Silverado, makes a lot of pressure, sounds great

  • @jasonperse8819
    @jasonperse8819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The video i been waiting for.

    • @joshuamartin7443
      @joshuamartin7443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Currently they are down fire but going to build a box that’s forward facing

  • @davect01
    @davect01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info.
    I have a free air setup and they aim up through the hatchback shelf

  • @shivasinn
    @shivasinn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had my 10inch Kicker sub located in the boot facing the boot door. I was not so happy with the depth of the bass. So, I made two changes. One to stuff the port with tight faom to covert it to a sealed box and secondly, moved it to one side of the boot, facing side ways towards the innerside of the boot, rather than facing the back of the car. With these two changes, the bass feels lot more deep and cleaner. Not sure if it due to the sealing or due to the change in direction of the sub or both. Eitherway, happy with the result.

  • @madhavbalakrishnan8673
    @madhavbalakrishnan8673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I like it faced upwards because it travels directly into your seating area hence getting more bass, though keeping the frequency higher can mess up listening but on 63hz, I feel it pretty much amazing to hear facing it upwards

    • @casemods
      @casemods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Eww...... 40hz and below only.

    • @pablovenerez6683
      @pablovenerez6683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@casemods i bet your system is just rumble lmfao, shoulda just installed a vibrator

  • @bossdogg4767
    @bossdogg4767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the way this Brother breaks down sound... Great Video and content.

  • @nemesissanity8132
    @nemesissanity8132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow man i really wait for your next video.

  • @nippahut
    @nippahut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    big thumbs up i purchased to 2 knuconcepts kollosal kits 1 for my small sedan which i completely rewired and ill use the other for my mpv suv and i sound deadned all doors and floors firewalls and trunk made 20%sound improvement also purchased audio control lc2i pro for suv also

  • @robertkeenbuildingmylifesh3429
    @robertkeenbuildingmylifesh3429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Salute always blessings to all the incredible grind and motivation....

  • @jonathanramos8589
    @jonathanramos8589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got two 15" subs in a 2019 hyundai veloster. Facing backwards. Hatchback trunk makes the car shake. Beautiful bass.

  • @DJ_Blaker
    @DJ_Blaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My two 12s are forward facing forward in a sealed box. Never really knew which direction to face them. I just always liked how they looked facing forward!! This was definitely an informative video. Thanks! Looking forward to more on this topic!

    • @djkeys415s
      @djkeys415s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Turn that box around

    • @MikeCodere23
      @MikeCodere23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love it.

    • @spiritualking1692
      @spiritualking1692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not about looks it's all about booming

    • @spiritualking1692
      @spiritualking1692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djkeys415s punking that Boi 🤣😂😆

  • @randyduquette
    @randyduquette 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW, this was incredibly informative. Very well done

  • @tomasexteriors
    @tomasexteriors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving it the way you explain so detailed and pleasure to watch ❤️🎖️🥂

  • @PrimoMigz
    @PrimoMigz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have my two 12's kickers facing sideways (facing to the left of my trunk) in my Sonata. After messing around with them, that is the best location for me and it sounds amazing

  • @craneeddie35
    @craneeddie35 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my 2 12's (RF P3's) in the trunk of my Mazda 6 facing down. Port blowing through the back seat. Built the box to spec. Sounds great and keeps the sub face from any damage with items that go in the trunk.

  • @basstracks2427
    @basstracks2427 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've gotten the best spl readings with my subs facing back. That includes a hatchback car, and in a trunk. I used to compete regularly, until some health issues. My greatest hit was in a 2012 Kia Soul, back in 2018, was 147.3 dbs, with the subs facing backwards. Regardless, to each their own.

  • @sheliabryant1911
    @sheliabryant1911 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the krystal kables,like a 4awg wire.awesome and they screw down on the rca's.love em.
    Have all knu koncepts of 0awg as well.i really is the most flexible ever.great vid.
    And our 15's are facing upwards and ports to the rear.

  • @BassRacerx
    @BassRacerx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was not expecting such an awesome anatomy lesson. This was a great video!.

  • @sonofevil77
    @sonofevil77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always facing outward for me. Actually right now I have 1 12 facing up and 1 facing the back. Banger.

  • @kresanmoodley4241
    @kresanmoodley4241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a made to spec sealed downfire box in my sedan with a 10inch hertz es250.
    Car sounds good and the downfire box provides the safety I need for my subwoofer with the amount of things I load into the vehicle.

  • @eac1907
    @eac1907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 2 12’s in a ported box, facing up. 1200w rms in a 07 Sequoia! 👌🏽

  • @Sl4sk1
    @Sl4sk1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Highly informative as always

  • @theunclefluffy5769
    @theunclefluffy5769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mark you have literally taught me everything I use now. Thank you so much for helping me become better at my favorite hobby

  • @Steve-nu9op
    @Steve-nu9op 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i aim my sub toward the front bumper. i use to face it toward the rear bumper, but i didnt like it that way, too easy for it to get damaged by something in my trunk. sounds about the same either way. cars a Accord sedan. subs a 12" RE SE (sealed). love that thing ;)

  • @jesterm1460
    @jesterm1460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have 2 10s facing upwards in my 2017 mustang and they sound really good .

  • @JeffMcDuffie72MeridianGate
    @JeffMcDuffie72MeridianGate ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For people in the back firing position I'd first mess around with the box position in the trunk first before changing actual sub facings. I have two mmat monster 12s with a mmat m2000 ($925) pushing them in a ported box with the ports facing front way both in the center with the sub faces on each side of the box (tuned to 32 hz give or take one). I've noticed that if the box is to close to the trunk (right on it) it muffles the bass and causes more rattle because the bass waves dont develop properly that close but i moved the box back about 9 inches from the trunk and just used a piece of half inch wood to keep it in place and the bass quality is like 70% better overall and deeper with minimum rattle at around 35 hz bass tracks. I still have about 3 inches of space left to move the box back more to see if that does anything more.

  • @abelaleman1713
    @abelaleman1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both subs are facing inward, one facing left from the right and the other facing right from the left both ports facing up.
    For little 6.5's they sound pretty great good thing to cause that's literally all i can fit in my vehicle.

  • @chandlerlofton6536
    @chandlerlofton6536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would be the best set up for some serious bass in a regular cab truck? I want to do something vented that will get low. Maybe down firing 6.5s or 8s? I would love to see what your thoughts are.

  • @Teimo
    @Teimo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had/will have a 12 inch JBL in the trunk of my Versa facing away from me. Haven't really tested that much into it but it honestly looks the coolest

  • @rafextreme2879
    @rafextreme2879 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So would you recommend to face my woofers down as i do also use the trunk space for tool boxes and tool bags.
    I currently have em facing fordward but feel like they can do more since theyre 2 15s.

  • @Jim.D
    @Jim.D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So when measuring the distances for the sub, how is it done? From the sub, through the seat to your body directly or is it from the woofer cone to your ears?

  • @user-ij1ho1le2i
    @user-ij1ho1le2i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great knowledge. I have my subs facing up I feel gives the bass a more unrestricted way to travel. Facing backwards in my jeep makes it sound like my panel are shaking hints lowering the actual listening quality.

  • @samus40glock
    @samus40glock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I like facing it to the rear. I "hear" the bass bouncing more and getting deeper that way.

    • @RUSTONE31
      @RUSTONE31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me too. I feel the bass bouncing back with speaker facing rear.

    • @wasntme3651
      @wasntme3651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For sure, I have a star 15 in a ported box and had it facing up and it did pound but then I put it facing to the rear right behind the front seats of my blazer and it pounded way harder. Then I put it in the back hatch and it is night and day how hard it hits from the other two ways. Rear facing is definitely where it’s at IMO.

    • @eksociety7417
      @eksociety7417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @thecloneguyz
      @thecloneguyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the difference between having portholes and not having portholes or sealed box

    • @Shalmaneser1
      @Shalmaneser1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      FWIW, sealed boxes are described as more accurate. The tradeoff is power consumption/requirements.

  • @WildMidwest1
    @WildMidwest1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had been wondering for decades how two ears can tell us whether a sound is coming from above our head or below it. I assumed bone conduction was part of the system. Your explanation is much better. Bravo!

    • @WildMidwest1
      @WildMidwest1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Medical school, neurology and ENT rotations in residency taught nothing about this. I still suspect bone conduction does play some role, especially at lower frequencies. If you pull up an image of where the malleus, incus and stapes bones are located you might be persuaded.
      I loved the video, even if there’s possibly a bit more complexity than most of us understand. Your explanation of how visual and auditory stimuli interact was very good.

  • @MikeCodere23
    @MikeCodere23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Facing downward and can be flipped upward. Sealed box.. Can't tell much of a diff. 1 - 10w t3-4 JL Audio shallow.
    Interesting most people here seam to have ported boxes. Of course I'm old so kinda thought if you can do sealed it's better. Wondering if a ported would be better now for one 10? Thinking prob. Porter is for sure better if there is a lack of air space. Love these videos always so great yo watch.

  • @JeffBrandt242
    @JeffBrandt242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    2 12's and port facing forward, in a hatchback, I get better lows this way. I tried back and up. Just sounds much better forward.

    • @georgecostanza831
      @georgecostanza831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i had 3x 12's in a hatchback once. Found facing them backwards gave a better sound. sealed. Faced backwards ever since.

  • @mrmotofy
    @mrmotofy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's also a matter of wave length. Subs as you say have a longer wavelength and will sound better/accurate at the end of that wavelength. The wave extends out facing rear, hits rear of vehicle is reflected forward to your ears. That is closer to a full wave than if sub was facing forward aimed at your ears

  • @ejectkid26027
    @ejectkid26027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hear ya!! Great video

  • @denniswalker1640
    @denniswalker1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right now my subs fire foward ,but the box is way tords ,the very rear of the trunk,port foword, I am testing, so this week ,I will pull the box and fire the subs back and hear the difference between the two, should hit lower back, we will see, love the content mark!!!

  • @BiggRobbStout
    @BiggRobbStout 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Also, where did you get that custom light made that in the background?

  • @HifiVega
    @HifiVega 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well explained as always Mark!

  • @mikegreen2229
    @mikegreen2229 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Car shape and sound deadening must play a huge role. In my 58 Beetle, I installed its third version of a “system” and this single 10” sealed box turned sideways hits harder than either dual 12” sealed box facing forward ever did. Always had only around 400 wattish amps in this car. Something uniques about the shape of a Bug. It sounds like a 1000 watt amp easily

  • @logiticalresponse9574
    @logiticalresponse9574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The wave length is also why we hear the bass from the guy beating down the block and not the highs . The short frequency are absorbed by the walls

    • @SuperBallin100
      @SuperBallin100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct!

    • @noahon2k906
      @noahon2k906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what does this mean i want my subs to be heard down the block😭

    • @logiticalresponse9574
      @logiticalresponse9574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@noahon2k906 the wave length of "bass" are longer allowing it to penetrate obstacles with less loss of energy . High frequencies are much shorter allowing said obstacle to absorb and reflect better which is why when u hear an echo it sounds different, cause the lower mid range and down are not reflecting as much . Knocking refrigerators over when u come banging down the road requires a s%!+ ton of air movement , which requires many watts and many drivers

    • @herculesbrofister265
      @herculesbrofister265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually it's because most cars with aftermarket stereos simply don't have mids and highs. I hear it all the time on my walks around town,a car will drive by 10 or 15 feet away from me, windows down, and all i hear is "thump....thump thump thump."

    • @LastStandJudie
      @LastStandJudie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@noahon2k906 I have 2 kicker compvr and they can be Heard pretty far away. I think each one is like 86Db or something like that

  • @ericmarciniak3541
    @ericmarciniak3541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to have my DC Audio Lvl 2 in my trunk close to the rear seat with the port facing towards the taillights but about a month ago I turned it around and moved it near the taillights with port facing towards the front of the car and it hit noticeably deeper.

  • @Andrew-vd2ko
    @Andrew-vd2ko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hiya Mark, great channel and I am leaning more depth of what I thought was right.
    Where can I please buy some 3inch mids from?
    Want to add some 3 inch mids into a project.
    Thank you so much, you are awesome, only just found this channel and subbed to it ASAP.

  • @BanginCaddy
    @BanginCaddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have my subs facing up port up in my suv. If i had the room id face them back but you need at least 4 to 8 inches from the back hatch for that to be effective. I like to put my port as far back to hatch as possible when facing up.

  • @jyminewtron1416
    @jyminewtron1416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've had my subs face all different ways and can say that there is a huge difference in what direction it faces. I had to face the seat in my sonic because fitting it sideways wasn't an option and it rattled the truck lid to much. Even with foam and dynamat lol

    • @uninvestigated
      @uninvestigated 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With my old single sealed box just having it Off by a foot would mute the sub lol. Could barely hear it if it wasn't about 8 inches firing back into the hatch of my 06 suburban.

  • @modelotime3608
    @modelotime3608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my experience facing my 12 towards the rear has a better warmer and deeper response, also putting the sub closest to the back gives you better bass as well

  • @apt.strict
    @apt.strict 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 10 was facing my back 3rd row seat on my Yukon until I notice if I changed them upwards it can change the sound and it did sounds good in a (ported) box

  • @simonmoore6831
    @simonmoore6831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Mark,
    Love the videos, explanations and your methodical ways to work. I’ve learnt a lot so far and look forward to learning more.
    At the risk of asking a dumb question, what size sub is best for listening to Metal music. I like the sharp punch of a kick drum but don’t like droning thundering bass.?

    • @HAKLJR
      @HAKLJR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Simon, I'm not Mark, and know nowhere near as much as he does, but I personally had dealt with the same sort of issue. Sub woofer size is important, the smaller you go the more punchy bass you get. the difference between a 10 inch sub and a 12 inch sub, are definitely noticeable. From what I can tell from your comment, you like SQ over SPL. The droning and loud ear piercing bass is caused from a ported enclosure. Mark has talked about this before, but sealed enclosures are about 20% less efficient with output, but solve the drone and the thundering bass as you put it. I wouldn't worry a ton about sub woofer size, 10's are more punchy of course, so if that is a huge factor, get 10's but don't go much smaller than that. Another driving factor is what kind of sub woofer you get, brands and price points and all that. I would recommend going to your local audio store, and asking to hear a ported box with a 12 inch sub, play a song you like, and then play the same song with the same woofer in a sealed box. I hate how ported boxes sound for anything other than trap rap, and even then I would never put a ported enclosure in one of my personal vehicles. Right now for reference, I'm running 2 audiomobile gts 12 inch sub woofers, in a custom sealed enclosure built by our fab guy, and an addictive audio p120d amp to run it all. (you cant order these online) I listen to everything from rap to, country, to old blues, to lamb of god, bullet for my valentine and megadeath to name a few. anyways, hope this helped, and enjoy your car audio journey!

    • @bdon55x39
      @bdon55x39 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HAKLJR hey man i just asked a similar question above. this kinda helped a bit actually. thanks! i listen to everything besides like country really. bullet, megadeth, LoG, children of bodom....then i like some old 2000s pop and rock/punk etc. I just got 2 of the addictive v4s, and 2 p200s as the amp. Do you think i should go sealed? I do love me my low sustained dubstep wubz and shit tho also.

    • @bdon55x39
      @bdon55x39 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HAKLJR you're also the only person Ive seen say anything about addictive AT ALL casually in comments on any video lmao.

  • @YioMech
    @YioMech 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dual JL 10w0v3s with the port and subs facing back. Huge difference. I have it in a Scion FRS with a shit ton of dynomat but I get nothing but rattle from the outside of the car. Sounds awful but the inside isn’t too bad

  • @SteveTheCanadian
    @SteveTheCanadian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sub is inverted. With the sub facing the passenger side ( whole box on drivers side). With the port facing the back. It a logitec z5500 box cleared out with a skar 10 in it. Works good. Sounds good. Always try to face them up though if I want split.

  • @madlad_don2387
    @madlad_don2387 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have one facing up and another facing back, idk if its not good or whatever but it bumps good so I like it

  • @joecastillo3838
    @joecastillo3838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question. I have a skar rp1,500. 1d would it be a good match for a vxf-12/12" [1,500 watt rms subwoofer at 1ohm]... I really like your video's there very helpful! 🔊🔊

  • @jaimec2006
    @jaimec2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative! With all that being said... My 02 Acura RL car has an aftermarket Alpine stereo and factory 6.5 speakers with tweeters in lower doors and tweeters in upper doors.
    I am replacing speakers with pair of Skar 6.5 components (speaker, tweeter, crossover) 100 watt RMS each ( bottom door) and an additional Skar 1.75 Super tweeter pair (upper door) 100 watt rms each x 2. Adding a Skar 4 channel amp 100 watt rms x 4 @4ohms to power all front speakers and tweeters. Basically replacing what's already there. Any suggestions? I am afraid of possible comb filtering between component tweeter and super tweeter.
    Also going to replace 5.25s in rear doors, fabricate an adapter, and seal doors for 6.5 subwoofers not speaker from Skar for MID bass. As well as remove the 6x9s in rear deck and add 8 in subs or additional 6.5 subs in rear deck. Trying to keep my trunk space in which biggest sub I could add would be some 10s rear firing. Guys suggestions would be appreciated.
    Thanks Keep Bumping!

  • @jaysonoliveira4752
    @jaysonoliveira4752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have my 2 alpine type x 12s firing towards my taillights, when I position them firing towards the front of my car it hits harder but not as punchy, keep in mind I only have a ski hole in my car the seats don't fold down, also moving them around changes the box rise , everything from moving your driver/ passenger seat changes the performance of your sub. Even a few bags of groceries in my trunk changes the performance.

  • @jay1185
    @jay1185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have (a budget setup lol) two Rockford R2D4's in a sealed Atrend box, 1.25 ft³ per chamber on an Audiopipe APCL-3002 in a 2012 Cruze. For a two sub setup, I've always preferred my boxes, sealed or ported, firing backward.

  • @lweston71
    @lweston71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have a great weekend ✌️.

  • @briannash7960
    @briannash7960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I like your videos, I have a question, I'm running just 2 subs and 1 Amp but it keeps draining battery, if I install a turn off and on switch for the Amp without having to buy a separate battery and alternator, will that correct the issue, thanks so much for your videos

  • @chazhawkins452
    @chazhawkins452 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s crazy how much of a difference it makes

  • @johnnycorn7225
    @johnnycorn7225 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an 07 Civic SI coupe two door. Putting three 12-in SQL in and facing them forward sealed off from trunk completely. I designed a perfect enclosure and orientation with them sealed but the bad me can't resist thinking about running them ported because I can if I run the ports up through the rear deck and seal that off completely too. I know it would definitely be louder but also won't be as sharp and accurate as the three sealed what do you guys think lol.

  • @bluecollarlifestyle
    @bluecollarlifestyle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got one 12" down firing sub in a sealed box between my two front seats of my 97 ram 1500 extended cab. It's roughly dead center of the cab so it disperses nicely.

  • @ericdiaz7802
    @ericdiaz7802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    My subs face up and port is to the rear. Sounds great in my Tahoe

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very nice!

    • @RYTHMICRIOT
      @RYTHMICRIOT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, I also have a tahoe with subs pointed upwards and a rear firing port

    • @johnnycorn7225
      @johnnycorn7225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have yet to see a SUV that didn't perform best with subs up Port back

    • @johnathanhornsey880
      @johnathanhornsey880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the best for a Tahoe. Jeep Cherokees like them faced forward or backwards

    • @garyP102782
      @garyP102782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I need to build a box like this for the tahoe. I just have a dual sealed with back raised a bit

  • @davidlunsford6155
    @davidlunsford6155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came for my lesson today 😊 ty. I have a question about tweets. I like a soft tweeter. I can't handle it all in my face. How do I get that sound. My car is my "church" you could say. So sq is my goal. O. 2015 VW beetle hatchback. my 12" sub is facing forward . But not close to the rear seats. Port is facing right, low down.

  • @ubersleepydub
    @ubersleepydub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have two Kicker L7S 12's down firing in a sealed 3.8 cubic feet 3/4" birch enclosure.

  • @crackazack510
    @crackazack510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One JLw7 facing rear in an ho box...1000w's. PLENTY OF BASS!! 👌

    • @crackazack510
      @crackazack510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JrGarcia-dn6mp install the one and see if you still feel that way...lol It hits harder and cleaner than any pair of 12s I've ever had.

  • @noahkb80
    @noahkb80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've got a pretty basic setup. A couple skar vd 10s shallow mounts in a downfire box with port forward on a 1200w amp. JbL 3 ohm mids & highs running off pioneer deck. Honestly it's pretty dang impressive for what it is. It'll rattle your teeth loose.
    Well , I had my back seats up and my box isn't bolted down( shame on me) and my box slid forward just like 2 inches , and I haven't had a chance to really get back there and recreate that situation because I had to shove it back because I started getting a really odd distortion that I think was the sub actually hitting the floor cuz it had slid over a hump in the floor. But before that, OOOOO MAAA GAWD! I don't know what was truly happening but I've never heard it hit so hard. My whole truck I thought was going to fall apart from the vibrations. No lie, it sounded like I had something like 4 12s in some massive box.
    I'm gonna try to recreate it. Part of me thinks that maybe some sort of phenomenon happened due to wires being pulled around and stuff getting tugged on from box moving, and I wouldn't think that minor of a move and basically not changing the angle at all, would make such a drastic change. It really was incredible. I've been running systems for 20 years and I never seen anything like it.

    • @1234Squash
      @1234Squash ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have the port facing the rear, it'd get even louder.

  • @dogsevil8672
    @dogsevil8672 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said "doo-doo".
    Love your videos.

  • @riqzee946
    @riqzee946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both the sub and the ports are facing the trunk. It's a big ol' 18. I have never tried facing it upwards, because i feel like it would play worse since the ports would also face upwards then. Any ideas regarding that? Worth trying?

  • @o.g.pawpaw708
    @o.g.pawpaw708 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think you could do a video on building a test bench. With a list of recommended components and walk through.

  • @dingdonggonggong
    @dingdonggonggong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When installing my first subwoofer in my car(back in the 1990:s ) I made a box that I tried in different directions to see which was best for my car. I found the best direction was backwards, I was at the time installing in a Saab 900 Hatchback from 1981.

    • @MikeCodere23
      @MikeCodere23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't all hatchbacks have better and cleaner sound facing the back?

    • @chrishelms3298
      @chrishelms3298 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeCodere23 No, I had a 85 camaro with 2 15inch Orion's and 2, 1.2k wat power amps and crossover i.the box utilized the whole hatch . Speakers faced forward to push the air away .

    • @marshallohio5512
      @marshallohio5512 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was wondering if this is Brian Love ? 🤔

  • @bigcurt011
    @bigcurt011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My sealed box 4 cvrs facing rear quakes nice 👍🏽

  • @bryanelijah3774
    @bryanelijah3774 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dig your channel first and foremost. Dude!? Face the sub away or towards me? That’s all I need to know. I took a crash course in sound engineering with no definite answer.

  • @gregriley1708
    @gregriley1708 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bitd floor pan installed subs were the rage in car audio magazines. Yes, I referenced a magazine lol

  • @travisabrahamson5092
    @travisabrahamson5092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm running 4x kenwood excelon 10's in a sealed 2 cube enclosure. 2 face up 2 face forward. It hits really hard and accurate.
    Thinking about making a larger sealed enclosure for deeper bass.

  • @cdsmit27
    @cdsmit27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2005 silverado crew cab. The stock system is Bose but I replaced the head unit with a nice high end Kenwood, installed by best buy but everything else is stock. My issue is that when the volume is up it gets really distorted and muffled. I'm not looking for a competition level system but I'd like it to play nice and clear at high volume. Are there speakers and components from amazon that are good quality? I'm also looking to put 2 down facing subs under the back seat. What size subs are good for all genres of music?

  • @voyeuphucbinhyen4437
    @voyeuphucbinhyen4437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello what gauge should I use for my JL AUDIO 12W7 speaker cable?

  • @jdhall420
    @jdhall420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have 4 old school 12" MTX Thunder 7000s facing each other in my Monte Carlo, For being old they still hold their own

  • @justinstjules8735
    @justinstjules8735 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey everyone! Im currently looking at dual 12's in a ported box for my truck, i dont use my backseat so i was going to place the box on the seat, trying to find best positioning... port and speakers facing forward? Towards the back of seat? Facing up? I am beyond lost lol any recommendations would be appreciated, thanks! 2020 ram 1500 Quad cab

  • @pawkisser
    @pawkisser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, my subwoofer was facing the wrong way. Corner loading in my civic was the way to go but in my sentra now its rear facing and its quite noticable.

  • @thedjrush
    @thedjrush 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    On my Camaro 2016 I found the best way to face the subwoofer was towards the back along with the ports sounds really good I didn’t like the way it sounded facing the cabin

  • @anthonyC9199
    @anthonyC9199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am trying the pioneer TS-WH500A. Speakers pointing up and down under the passenger seat. 50watts nom 150 max. Claims to hit 20hz from two opposing 8.25" speakers.

  • @MizTori
    @MizTori ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mark- what if you have limited space & have to use a Roll?

  • @daviddehring1337
    @daviddehring1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2002 jeep grand Cherokee. 1 audiopipe bd2 12 in a 2.4 cubic foot slot ported cabinet. Performs very well for what it is but looking at a pair of new subs so upgrades are potentially in the works

  • @christippin6244
    @christippin6244 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine we're facing rear but I turned them up as I feel they operate more efficiently and also less rattling for the loose framing of the rear end