WHY DO MY SUBWOOFERS STINK?
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Another very commonly asked question I get asked a lot “why do my subwoofer smell? Or get stinky?” So I give you my 2 cents on it in this video :)
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If you smell your coil... don't just immediately shut off your sub, that allows for the heat to sit on the coil and cause more damage... Lower the volume and let the movement of the subwoofer "blow air" on the coil and cool it down.
Derized is it bad that your coil smell if it smells can i still keep playing music. My set up y a regular stereo didn’t put any mods
Very true! I always need to change the song also cuz it's usually a constant beat with the same area of hertz, so if u change song, and lower volume, ur golden.
Thank you
Damn. My subs started burning today and I instantly turned it down.. should be fine tho. Thanks for the advice!
If you smell your coil does that mean the damage has already been done? Or you may have weakened the coil after a few times?
Ain't clippin? voltage aint dippin?..u must be trippin..😎
DD-1 And CC-1 were my best investments for easy quick tuning in my opinion D4S 👍👍 love the sunset in background
Thanks for this. I always thought once the smell came, then I already damaged my coil. This clarifies it's a warning.
Yesterday my buddy at work was asking me the same thing. He had it installed at some shop blew his first sub in 2 months so they told him to upgrade to a better sub. Even with the amp only being half the rms of the sub it still stinks in about a minute and of coarse they put all the tuning knobs against the seat rail so you can't adjust them. And this is coming from a shop that has been doing car audio for 25 years now. You should have seen his face when I told him I've been putting double the rms to my subs for about two years now with no problems sure they get warm but they don't smell like burnt coil. I told him the key is clean power just like jp said. Anyways have a great day and keep those subs bumpin :)
Burnt up my first 15 had bass boost turned up on radio and got a friend to tune it. Good thing I only paid 100 bucks. Got a new Rockford 15 wired up correctly to amp and tuned it myself been bumping since September.
Feel many people new to car audio see demo vids and don’t understand how it can heat up in a large setup and try to equate that to their set up
🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Great video. Im sure many folks needed this advice. 👍👍
Great topic! It happens to a lot of people. Another reason a sub will stink, is playing below tuning at full tilt. People ask me the same question. I ask them how did they set their gains and a lot of them are set correctly. Then I asked them what their enclosure is tuned too, along with that I ask them are you playing lower than your enclosure is tuned for and that's where I tell them that they are playing below tuning. Oh, you can definitely play below tuning, but not way below tuning and not full tilt either. So that's important too. Cannot wait to see the NeoHoe back in action. It's going to be crazy!
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Jp wanna say thank you for being such a big influence and the right information and guidance on how I became the basshead I am thanks my dude
They also stink during the breakin process.
Ohhhh I thought I blew them
Damn, I thought Soo too, I was gonna call skar and say that my sub I just bought is smelly. Like I burned it. So this is fine tho right.
@@bulldograzor Sadly, there is a good chance you burned the voice coil...
@@Ryyderdie no, it's still good and works better now. Not even burned at all. They just said it's a breaking process. It works good and isn't stiff. So it's good
I just got a skar audio evl that started to smell like it was burning
Go ahead and discuss box rise.
Great video JP!!! 👌👌👌 Very helpful and very informative but sometimes it's hard to tell if it's your subwoofers that smell like burn or one of your amps depending on how many you are running!!! Especially when your sitting in the front drivers seat and your listing to your music and driving at the same time!!! JP how much power over the RMS rating would you say is safe to run a subwoofer before you start to smell your subs???
Yep yep down 4 sound difference baby. U stand for something man and I appreciate everything u do for us bass heads. Ty
Great video for those who don't know or understand! It also caught my attention that you made this video around my county in Mississippi lol
thank you homie helped me out a lot i did some of the things he mentioned and my subs sound great don’t stink etc the is clearer and less choppy
Hey JP can you talk about what happens when you have too small of an enclosure for your subs in another video?
I second this
Ask rockville about bragging on 1 min test tone all day long.
I’m an auto diagnostic tech so luckily I have a 4 channel Pico oscilloscope to set my gains with. Overkill as hell but nice to have. A cheap scope for setting gains would actually be cheaper than a dd1 so there is no excuse to be clipping subs. You can get a cheap pocket scope for $50 these days.
Had a car come into the shop the other day. Hopped in to hear his system and as soon as it started hitting the worst smell ever over came us causing me to exit the vehicle. My eyes were burning and I was gagging and coughing. It was not the voice coils! We pulled the box out, and pulled the speakers. The box the filled with black old from where the trunk had leaked. The smell was the mold spores being blown out of the box when the subs hit. I have seen some sad stuff over the years but this was a new one for me.
Awesome video!!!Best description JP. Oh yeah awsome sunset!!!
“Pure garbage power”😂😂😂 That’s GOLD 👍
Simply put good way to word it for the folks that dont know JP keep the vids rolling brother
Everything your saying is true to the point where new subs will have a slight smell where the excess glue is burning from voice coil 🤔
Crazy I watched this video yesterday, and wanted to have my amp tuned correctly by a shop. I don't wanna spend a ton of money on a DD1 just to use once. I called a decent shop nearby, and asked... They said they don't charge for it. Cool. I asked if he uses a DD1 or oscilloscope? He said, "no, I do it by ear and watching how the sub reacts" 😂😂😂
There’s people that have success for years and years tuning by ear, if they know what they are doing you would be fine
@@SQ_Silverado I've done it my entire life by ear. And I've never blown a sub in my life. I fried some tinsel leads on one side of a coil before when I was like 19, but thats it. But I've always had to pay close attention. A shop doing it by ear tho is just unprofessional. 🤷♂️
I'm running two Sundown Zv3 18's (rated 1500 rms each) on two Sundown SCV7500D amps at 1/2 ohm each, almost a year daily and numerous comps. Gains set proper, Clean Signal FTW!
In most videos of a oscilloscope vs dd-1... the dd-1 picked up distortion before it showed up in the sine wave on the oscilloscope.
because the dd 1 specifically looks for distortion, you can get distortion before clipping. but alot of spl guys dont worry about the bit of distortion, especially if they dont play extended periods of time. dd1 is mostly for daily setups, to keep in a safe zone.
Clipping is distortion so... also that's apples to oranges. Anyone that wants clean power will obviously use a dd-1 or oscilloscope. I don't think anyone wants any level of distortion or clipping. With exception to a slight bit of clip on a burp or something. My point is that, for 1... the dd-1 is much more expensive than many oscilloscopes available(some are insanely priced and unnecessary)and secondly due to as I just mentioned... I wouldn't consider the oscilloscope the better option. Seeing as how the dd-1 picks up distortion sooner than most oscilloscopes I've seen in use. You say it's made to pick up distortion specifically which is my point also, as I said distortion is clipping. So you kinda stated the obvious while referring to 1 thing as of its 2 separate things. Distortion and clipping. Can you have distortion without clipping? Well yeah of course. Bad sound track ect. But nonetheless, clipping is distortion. So I'm pretty sure plenty of huge competition builds were tuned with a dd-1. There are only like a hundred dd-1 related videos here on TH-cam. Also I own 1 some I'm quite aware of its purpose/capabilities. Thanks though for clearing that up for me😂
@@bass-n-truth-inthestix9083 sounds like you've learned alittle. travis at jy runs his cube gains wide open... and there are others too..
@@allrimmedout I've been known all that since I was like 14 or 15. About distortion at least. Not dd-1 ect I had no clue what those tools were then and dd-1 didn't exist lol so... it's funny though, I don't remember ever seeing any of the systems back in the day having the gain set with anything but the ear. Gotta love the old school
What about the importance of clipping from the head unit when turned up to max, like some people like to do. I'm trying to set something up for someone and the amp is powerful enough to heat the sub, but only if it clips, I'm basically trying to make it 'user proof' under all possible settings - i'm guessing that this is possible but worried about them turning up the bass far too much - and pop...
Hey JP, I bought a evl12 from you and I put it on a rp1500. I have had the coil smoking and it hasn't died yet, the coil does bottom out now. I know its my fault so if it dies I will buy a new one from you.
I have 2 Rockford Fosgate T2 15's on a Rockford T2000bd and I been beating tf out of them for a long time, I've learned if u just buy some good equipment and dont try over do it ull be fine, as long as it's properly installed like he said
I love that amp I have it pushing 2 DD2508sc
If you smell your coil does that mean the damage has already been done? Or you may have weakened the coil after a few times?
Cant wait to see the new version of neo ho great video for all of the new peeps just breaking into the hobby
Simple question please, what is a good noise reducer when my speakers pick up even the motor of my CD player?
When you use the dd1 detector what deep Db do you set it on
Awesome info bro. Wish more people understood this topic. One thing I learned about to is using subs that are overrated. Rockville. Lol. DD1 and CC1 are excellent tools. Now I have better subs and the amp and deck are properly tuned. No smell. No clipping. Shaking the windshield. Oh. Audiopipes BDC2 12S. 4 subs on 3k. Now I have also heard that just cause you smoke a sub doesn't mean its blown... is that true? How do you test a sub after its been smoked?
I've been having this problem with my 5 channel amplifier cutting out the music on all channels, at the same time, for about 3 seconds. It seems to only happen at night with all of the lights on, but ONLY when I am stopped and go to press the gas pedal. I have a HO alternator and I've tried just about everything from upgrading fuse holder, replacing fuse, upgrading to OFC wire, upgrading speaker wire, relocating ground point, redoing all of my connections to and from the amplifier, upgrading RCAs. I've checked all connections with multimeter when car is running and off with music playing at loud volume. Voltage input to the amp stays above 12v and just below 14.4v. All gains are set with multimeter. I've also done the big three upgrade as well. The only thing I haven't upgraded yet is the battery, but that shouldn't matter when the vehicle is running. If anyone knows what the hell is up, it would be greatly appreciated
Sir I hope you can help I’m from New Orleans. Right out of the box “the manufacturer box” my subs smell like burnt smell, gassing etc. whatever it is I’m worried if I got messed over and bought used, refurbished or about to blow subs. Thanks
I noticed that my Kicker Comp Q has a distinct smell to them after a few minutes of playing them at a higher volume, but I'm pushing less than the RMS wattage into them & I'm playing high quality music, so I don't understand why or how this could be the case. 🤔
The subwoofer is rated @ 850 RMS & I'm putting approximately 700 RMS into it.
How can one differentiate between this and a break in smell?
I'm uploading a clean sounding demo right now. The glue! Yep! The coil motor, basket.. They can take heat. Even Rockford Fosgate uses aluminium formers rather than paper. They still burn the glue.
So what happens when you did it yourself, set it with a good multimeter to amps, runs perfectly fine, but when it gets to low frequencies it starts to smell. I’m thinking it’s just that the subwoofers won’t play that low? Or maybe the amp? My setup is 2 comp r 12s 500 rms each wired to 2 ohms with a ct sounds 2000.1d (rated at 1200 rms at 2 ohms) with gain tuned to 43 amps even tho the calculation was around 44.5 for 1k watts and sub box tuned to 39 hz and amp subsonic tuned to 30hz to play it safe
I use my fosgate CLEAN setup.
1000watts RMS amp
1000watts RMS sundown
I'm doing the CLEAN setup properly. My deck doesn't clip.
Im setting the gain until the light turns blue @40hz like it says.
I can still smell my sub, I don't understand. It doesn't feel warm when I touch tbe cap.
Any advice???
JP, can you talk about "clean audio source"? I hear people talking like, "bass bosted music is bad. You need a clean audio source for good car audio." Or, "I never play music over Bluetooth! I download a FLAC instead and play back over USB."
What does that mean, and is it hurting my speakers if I play music from TH-cam or SoundCloud??
Hey i had a ? For you. My truck recently got totaled and it had 2 shallow 10's and a 1000 watt amp. Im soon to buy a 2 door dodge truck. And i wanted to know what could be a good loud hard hitting set up for it? As in 2 shallow 12's. I dont know alot about shallow subs and didnt know if you had a recommendation. Got about 3k for an entire sytem
That laugh after “I can hear distortion” 😂😂
I have a zv5 15 on a taramps 5k, my amp shows the clipping light flash like crazy at higher volume. Also when i first hooked the sub up it started belling like smoke or a wierd smell like a minute from playing it what could it be?
Aye bro I don’t know if you have done a video on it before or not but a lot of people have arguments about this and I just wanted to see if you can make a video on your opinion on it I have a Skar EVL 15 I had it facing the back of the car for a while I wanted to hear it
More and have more of a feel so I faced it to the front the the car and it is louder to me but others would say otherwhise what is you Opinion how you can get more sound or flex on the car
How do u heat glue on magnets to starighting back up?
Go ported, it cools the drivers magnet and voice coil more efficently than a sealed enclosure. Also, since ported enclosure deliever more output, you do not have turn the gains up as much.
I love the smell of burnt voice coil in the morning.
jesse yarbrough haha yep
Blends in well with my coffee ☕️
Retired bass head, great channel, now I just prefer American muscle over bass!👍🏿 Best bass group ever, Bass Patrol!
Just got 2 soundqubed 12s and you know I be rockin 30s-n-lows!!
Made this mistake when I first installed my EVL 12s into my Nissan Versa. Didn’t set the gains properly or nothing. Then I put them in my Chrysler 300 properly with waaaay more clean power and tuned with an oscilloscope and what my amp settings were in my other car I was clipping those subs to high heaven. Got it good now, smell is stuck now as I had burnt those voice coils pretty good lmao
I have the dB 2715 and put them in a box that had 2 zvx 15 does it matter if the enclosure is wrings because they stink pretty fast
Can’t wait to see the new build.
JP. Please show us again how the coil moves in the subwoofer? Slow it down a little bit this time? 😂🤣😂 On a serious note, good video with good information.
JP bro how do you feel about the taramp hd
Hey man I’m curious is it okay to run let’s say a 1000watt rms sub on a 600 watt rms amp at one ohm.... I’ve always wondered that
Oh NO..!! Not the Stinky Slinky..!! Oh God, that's the funniest sh*t EVER.! Still laughing.! Love your channel brother.! Ain't been in the game since the Art Series was poppin'.! Miss this stuff.!
Have you heard of wiring subs to vertical series parralel
Amps for subs the best way to match for a daily driver or spl and both dd & spl combo setup!!
Won't it smell a bit during the break in process?
Please reply. I want to buy this but I don't have a cd player any other tracks?
good content Price keep the videos coming
So true...I had some kicker and I had the same problem and froze one of my twelve.
Do they also stink in the break in process?
I have a hifonics amp and after using the DD1 I was shocked it clips above 2/3rd gain.
Hello, i just got installed a 10 inch subwoofer and I’m getting a funky smell when I listen to music I’m not pushing the limit on it.. is it because it’s breaking in and it’ll go away?
I just ordered a Sundown X-12 2ohm 1500W subwoofer. Any recommended amplifier for around $200 minimum - $300 maximum?
Get the wolfram c2400 or look into brutal sounds
Riddle me this, had two subdown es v3 on a hifonics zues 1950 amp. I had it pro installed etc since i need a receipt to not void any warranties but after i put the subs in a custom made box for them they started to stink and did for a while. Its a much smaller box too. But the smell has gone away
@@kingly7946 couple weeks. I beat the snot out of them, they even got a little smokey but id say you spend a good week pounding them itll go away. It could be excessive amount of glue burning off specially if you know your not clipping. Like i said i went from a huge box to a smaller custom built one for the subs and thats when they started to stink.
Can you discuss brand new sub break in or if that's just a made up myth, and possibly what gradual power you should feed your new subs or can you full tilt them from the start. Thanks JP.
Clint Hernandez the only break in is to send it at full volume to let the spiders to get worn in
@@benmuckenhirn8921 Got it boss, will do, thanks for the reply.
only exception to that is if it's an 8 layer voice coil
not yo biz Hmm it’s a sundown X 15, I know most of its components but I’m just primarily asking because it’s the first time I try out brand new subs and don’t wanna mess anything up
that is probably a 4 layer voice coil on that sub so you'd be ok
I'm new to this... I have 2 kicker L7s and today I got that smell and it's been like that on and off since I got this set up... I've had the + and - wire to the amp burn and now the 2and time one of the subs seized up... is it me or the shop I'm going to... can I get HELP PLEASSSEEEE....
Liked and commented at 1:00 in! Well said sir
Iv used a oscope volume set for clipping and smell it some times when played to long.
That ✋ form, thats hand clipping😮😑😶hahahahahaha
Amen!! Words from JP are words from The Car Audio Bible!!!!
If it stinks and it doesn't blow and you turn the gains down, does it damage the speaker..
What is clean power in terms of car audio? New to subs
GOD DAMN THAT SUN IS BEAUTIFUL!!! (what were you talking about again)
No wonder it's called Sundown Audio🤣🤣🤣🔉
Question so I have a ram 1500 it’s a 03 have kickers that is 300 watts whenever bass heads it sounds like shit the bass sounds to deep.. does it make a difference if I purchase a battery from down4 sound.plus purchasing 2 12,s that are 750 watts. Sa series rev.3 12. Want something that would thumb👌but nothing crazy. And I would like to put them in the back of the seats.
I’ve been having problems with mine having a burning smell I got a 5K bass and 2 evl skarz any help
Had 12s Kicker what I clipped it I had my amp Hz at max and I used my gain as a volume it was bumping hard but it down. It was probs it first clip cause it didn't distorted
My Sundown Amp RCA Started Having Issues, Pulse My Subwoofer To A Heartbeat & I Had To Pull Over On The Highway... Because I Turned Off My Head Unit And It Still Continued To Pulse...
Beautiful Sunset!!!!
Ok so my subs is cool then it doesnt heat always is it safe? I use a kicker 12"
Buy an oscope %100 good for many things and u can find a cheap one that will get the job done.. I'd spend $150 on a scope before I'd buy a dd1 that's only good for 1 thing.. plus smd stuff is over priced
A good cheap handheld o scope? Please post link. DD1+ is an excellent tool, shows voltage, allows you to set gain overlap.
@@caseytbss Just search on eBay. A 2MHZ/2us scope is plenty for amp calibration and even amp repair. You'll need a 10x probe.
I wanna hook my car stereo up with clean sounds without changing my radio how would I do that
I cant afored any of this do you know if a speaker shop would tune it for me
too big or t oo small of a box can make speakers stink at certain frequencies as well, no?
an oscilloscope allows you to analyze the waveform. you can use one to measure the wavelength, but yea. there's no excuse for not having an oscop thanks to the cheap dso kits on the market now starting at $20. dmm's are nice, but are only as reliable as the amp manufacturer's ratings. i use both, i use the dmm to get to my target and then the oscope to finely tune it. actually seeing a clipped signal should be enough to dissuade you from putting it on your speakers. imo it's important to explain WHY clipping damages speakers (the distorted ac waveform acts like a partial dc signal on your speakers causing overheating) or people just aren't going to get it and think you're talking about noise. you also didn't mention that if you're using an oscope you need to have the amp loaded. it's a bit of a loaded topic for just an off the cuff no prep video :P
What is a slinky you might ask? Lol . That was funny 😆
My pioneer 100w subwoofer doesn't smell like burning or heat. It smells sort of sweet. I have have a Phillips surround sound subwoofer smell the exact same way. It blows the smell through the bass port. Is it just the box or what?
My subwoofers are stock with stock amps and still smell at low volumes. They are not new either.
will the Ampere Audio 5000.1 withstand 0.5 ohm load for daily use on strong electricals?
korean amps will on good electrical, just don't push it to hard, do what u can to keep it cool, and hopefully the protection circuit will save u if there's a problem
If I play for about 10 to 15 mins straight. My zvx get stinky. Kind of a sweet smell. No clip lights on and don't drop below 13.8 volts. Is that my coil burning up or just glue. Ive only had them a couple months
Same I can only play for abt 20 min not clipping or anything and the sub is rated for 3500 on a 3k amp
So many great quotes in this video.. “voice coil goes like this ::jacks the air::”... “2000 watts PROBABLY NEVER”.. “what’s an oscilloscope?” 😂
Way to often do I hear people say this. Good explanation JP
Hey love your videos man .. I heard a banger the other day . love if u did a video demo of it .. Its called mirrors by 070 shake
With music downloaded and recorder nowdays setting the gain with dd 1 helps but music is recorded louder sometimes im a firm believer in trusting your clip light indicator if it blinks your clipping dammit lol. Get a good amp with a clip light I trust them.
Gr8 tutorial JP
Is the smell of rubber normal with brand new subs?
I’m running a 1200 watt amp on 2 600 rms rated subs after about 10 minutes of playing half volume 60% bass subs smell could it be cause they are not broken in I got them in a week ago
same here got my comp r installed 5 days ago and played some e40 and then started smelling em
Its off topic , but has anyone found a recone kit for skar vvx 8?