Honestly de-fence makes more sense in a morphological-etymology manner. It's just we nuked Japan, and that allows us to use s on some words that the UK uses c on and er on French words.
That's not actually a valid word, anyway. It's a spelling mistake in both International and British english, it's just a mistake Americans make a lot, and is thus attributed to them.
I remeber Hideo Kojima said in an interview, he put all the long cutscenes in the game so he wouldnt feel regrets if he left them out; so real fans were not disappointed.
zombierepublican seriously. I didn’t have a ps3 so when this came out, I had my buddy rent it so we could play it. He would leave the room for long periods of time and ask “how’s the game?”. I couldn’t even answer him after an hour or two. It was 90% cutscenes lol.
I'm still amazed how the graphics still hold up extremely well. I wouldn't mind if they remaster that game, but I think it would present a challenge for port devs since that game relies heavily on PS3 gimmicks. That and Konami unfortunately.
Raiden - "It even rained the day I was born..." Snake - "You've got it all wrong. You were the lightning in that rain. You can still shine through the darkness." 😤😤😤
MegaAnitoon It's the most polarizing MGS before V was out. Super Bunnyhop has stated he'll never review it because he can't take it seriously. It's a game that even MGS fans goof on a lot for it's over the top scenes that trump over the previous games. You either love it or hate it.
Because people who've never played the games decided to play MGS4 to "Fit in" with the gaming crowd when "LOL I'M A NERD XD" culture was just kicking up. Because they couldn't understand the character dynamics, nuances, or the story since they've never played a previous title they just hated it. They justified their hate when fake journalists didn't like the game and bandied those reviews around. Thats how MGS4 got a negative rep. It wasn't the game, it was the people pretending they knew anything about it.
wawa fucking A! Why don't i hear more people talking about this!? MGS4 was brilliant every step of the way. As mentioned by many, the Perfect send off to the series. But the creme-de-la-creme is the Shadow Moses section of the game. It was Glorious in every way. Goddamn beautiful MGS4. Was. I juuuuuust finally played through Ground Zero. And am now on to Phantom Pain. MGS4 being the perfect send off for the series, i have my concerns.
Same here. I was just finishing moving out when my old roomie was playing through it. Watched for like four hours. Bought it and a ps3 like the next day.
Nanomachines being the reason for everything that was once seen as mystical and mysterious kinda put me off. But they made up for it with Revengeance's "Nanomachines son!"
of ourse there are still some very inexplicable things that cannot be explained by nanomachines either, but yeah that was kinda annoying too. for the record, I am referring to vulcan raven, The End, Psyccho Mantis, The Sorrow and Fortune
Would you make an exception if I skipped the cutscenes ONLY when I'm doing a run to get the Stealth Camp and Infinite Bandana and then after I do that, then I actually play the Metal Gear Solid games normally and watch the cutscenes?
@@Xxandrew01 we All know the Rule is 1st gameplay may be done in 20+hours 10-20+ hours of gameplay 4 hours of cutscene 2nd gameplay -Go bigboss hard or Boss extreme depends on how good you are 3rd gameplay -Go for big boss emblem or shoot some tanegeshima in acts 1&2 + corpse control with sorrow's doll.
"Crying wolf is a fight where you move all over the field" Me: MOVE? (flashback to where I sat under the truck you start next to with a silent rifle and the thermal/nvgs on, happy that frog soldiers never found me, wolf couldn't shoot or pounce on me and the cold weather wasn't able to drain my psyche meter.)
As someone who played MGS when it originally released, I remember what a big deal it was. The events in that game became iconic to me and my friends. Going back to Shadow Moses in MGS4 brought back so many memories. MGS4 is one of the most incredible gaming experiences I ever had.
"....This is good.....isn't it?" ....No, don't do this to me. I'm a grown man, for pete's sake. I'm not supposed to cry. I'm not supp-- *[cigar falls soundlessly to the ground in complete silence]* I'm....I'm not supposed to.... *HERE'S TOOO YOUUU.....* I.... *REST FOREVERRR.....* I...... *tears up* *THAT LAST AND FINAL MOMENT IS YOURS* Damn....damn it.... *[begins to sob]* *AGONY IS YOUR TRIUMPHHHHH* *[BAWLS OPENLY WITHOUT SHAME, CRIES THROUGHOUT ENTIRE CREDITS]*
Then after the credits you realize that the lyrics perfectly symbolize both Big Boss's life and Solid Snake's life. Then you realize that it's completely over. All that suffering, finally over. And you won't ever see them again. You won't ever be there for them, even if you're just the player controlling them. But you're slightly happy while you're sad, since their suffering is done and they have time to rest now.
MGS4 is a technical marvel for the PS3 as MGSV sort of was for the next gen consoles. The textures and sheer amount of detail in everything is baffling. Though what pushed it from a weak game into a favorable MGS game for me was the more somber moments that appeared through the latter half of it all, the soundtrack of it is still great and I think the Shadow Moses throwback was very well done.
The first bit that really got me was the Guns of the Patriots scene. I was blown away by that. The first levels are good, but nothing bombastic happens like you'd expect in an MGS game. Then Ocelot pulls that, you suddenly realise how reliant people are on nanomachines and how vulnerable it makes them, and it turns into a massacre. Such an underrated moment, wonderfully ties up the entire first half of the game.
Hideo Kojima was the ultimate troll to his fans... "Oh you're ready for a sequel to see how Snake resolves the events of the first game. Well get ready, because Snake is BACK... for the first quarter of the game. After that, you'll be playing the rest of the way as a character who literally wasn't in any of the trailers or even the box art." "Okay okay... I get it. You don't like Raiden. Well don't worry, because in the next game you are playing as SNAKE....'s genetic father Big Boss, in a prequel that predates all the games in the series. Answering literally ZERO (wink wink) questions about the previous two entries, in fact raising a slew of all new ones!" "Alright... alright, the people have spoken, and I am here to comply. This time, I swear, you will be playing as Solid Snake... THE Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid 1... as a seven-hundred-year-old man... what? WHAT?" Side note: you ever notice how theses so-called "super soldiers" are sort of the worst infiltrators of all time? Seriously, almost every game ends with the bad guy saying "Hah, Snake... your entire mission, and it's subsequent success, was organized entirely by ME! I've been guiding your every move, including the one where you kill me." Worst... stealth soldiers... ever...
"Fine, fine... you want to see the end of the Big Boss saga that finally explains how he went from the lovable guy in Snake Eater and Peace Walker to the mad tyrant from Metal Gear 1 and 2? Well prepare to play as BIG BOSS... 's body double who was brainwashed and had plastic surgery to resemble the real Big Boss, doing an irrelevant mission that has no impact on the story while the REAL Big Boss is building Outer Heaven offscreen."
@@jonts7 imo MGS V is the worst game in MGS series (I'm not including Peace Walker, Survive and P-Ops here ). Missions are repetitive and boring, sneaking is just easy- crouch, then run up to people and spam CQC button, most objectives don't feel important, a lot of missed opportunities. Even the key fragment of the series is lost. It's the story and cutscenes. Almost nothing epic and world changing is happening like it did in other games
@@jonts7 Nah, still bad as a game too. Just another pointless open world with too much empty space. Everyone copying Ubisoft's terrible games has ruined so many franchises.
MGS4 is probably the only game that takes full advantage of playing as a frail old person, Joel from the Last Of Us is weirdly fit for a 50 year old, same thing goes for Big Boss in MGSV, your not just fighting the enemies, your also fighting against your own limitations
Someone send this video to SuperBunnyHop "Metal Gear Solid 4 may not have the brains of a Metal Gear title, but it sure has the heart--one of the biggest I've seen a game have." Perfectly said.
Gianfranco Crocamo I just came back to this video after watching George's, and I've gotta say, in one third of the runtime, Gamingbrit has much more insightful and original points to make about this game.
Fuck Superbunnyhop, I fucking hate that guy. He is so smug like he knows what he is talking about when I have schooled him in the comments (which he deleted because cowards do that) on the series.
Mike Stoklasa has a smug thick enough to kill people, but he's earned it. At best, George has read books on game design, which I can say is more than what most people, even in his racket, can honestly say. It's not enough though. _when I have schooled him in the comments_ What about?
MGS4 is one of the few games that has made me cry. The scene with snake putting the gun in his mouth at the end of the game was really emotional after all the shit he went through.
I honestly adore this game. I see the problems, and why many don't love this game. However, I think its a great finale to the Solid saga (Im not counting all those later Big Boss games) Also first!
Go In Nemesis I've played every main Metal Gear games including PW, and it's fun, and I really enjoyed it, but I don't think it holds up to its predecessors
Anthony Cournoyer Besides the few hour long cutscenes, Big Boss at the end and the character of Johnny, I love the game! It's one of the best games ever I think. It's only after MGS5 people started shitting on it. I prefer 4 because it's story driven AND has great gameplay. It's unlike any other game I ever played. The music, voice acting and graphics are amazing. Old Snake is badass! And the humor is still there!
It's a good game,yes.But I wouldn't think that's some revolutionary thing,it's not like a gap between 1 or 3 years. But if you talk about graphical leap from 1998 to 2001,then I would agree.
I lterally pissed myself the first time I beat this game. I couldn't put the controller down during the ending. My bladder nearly burst and I pissed myself....
I will never understand why some people (gladly, most people think like me on this one) bash MGS4 so hard. It was the perfect ending for the series. A rush of emotion, ideas, intelligence and overall, love, love for the saga and its incomparable story. I understand some people dislike the long cutscenes, I really do, but for me, there was no other way around it. Look at MGS V, it had few cutscenes and the story felt dissrupted, incomplete (the absence of cutscenes was not the only problem, but it definetly contributed to it). I adore this game. I was crying almost the entire campaign. It changed me as a human being. It represents the cenit of this amazing saga. It is, despite its flaws, truly a masterpiece.
I'll make a few bullet points, then - Niomi changes side for no reason - Big I have Cancer scene - Everything is nanomachines - Convoluted big ass plotdumps with literally hours of slideshow without and actual point other than making things seem complex - cool guy Major Zero and goofball, movie-loving Paramedic retcon into The World's Source of All Evil and Even More Evil Unethical, Monster-creating Scientist - MGS2 retconned into raiden being in FOXHOUND and working for campbell even though its stated several times in MGS2 there is no FOXHOUND and the colonel in MGS2 not only wasn't campbell, it wasn't even a colonel - theme of antiamericanism in MGS1-3 completely dead - women's depiction taking a bad turn *think the boss in MGS3 and naomi nonsensically drooling over vamp in MGS4.) (mei ling turning from kid genius to "hey nice butt gurrl") - vamp is nanomachines - B&B unit is as charismatic and interesting as MGSV's parasite unit #5 #12 and the unforgetable parasite unit #52 - overall change to style over substance - rise of the self important monologues that add little to the story and last for half an hour - pretty much the worst dumbest comedy acts in the series (johnny pooping cutscenes, johnny and meryl having shooting sex/marriage proposal) - silly liquid arm cop-out/retcon the list goes on, but that should cover the basics
The dirty midget Amen brother. I re-bought this game last summer and got the platinum trophy a month later. This game is amazing, especially after beating MGSV.
lil115slayer I can't even beat mgs5, it's too boring. Unlike earlier games they couldn't keep the long cutscenes entertaining, the stealth is fine but it was basically all the generic usual stealth systems popularized in better games dumped into giant system, (It felt like metal gear but just wasn't as good) the open world made the game boring as shit; the game world was a barren desert that felt empty, making any trip boring as all hell, the change in scenery couldn't even help it, and the villain and bosses weren't good at all, a total lack of creativity. I hated it.
Pixar The Great I invested about 200 hours into that game trying to do all the side quests for missions. I despise how they made duplicates of some missions just harder
lil115slayer Me too. I spent ages doing the side missions, often before continuing on with the story. I'm a huge fan of the series, and while I'd noticed that the boss fights were pretty terrible, I was having too much fun with the gameplay. I started realising something was up when Skull Face just randomly died out of nowhere with no confrontation and without him providing any real threat, then you find yourself fighting a Metal Gear that's infinitely more advanced than Rex and Ray ever were (again, for no apparent reason), even though you're only apparently half way through the game. By the time I realised they'd fucked up the story and tried to cover it with duplicate missions, it was too late. The worst part is, I absolutely adored the game right up until the road trip with Skull Face (minus the boss fights). The gameplay is absolutely sublime, I still maintain that with a proper Metal Gear standard plot and characters, it could've been the best in the series. The shitty duplicate missions, the missing chapter after Liquid steals the Metal Gear and that bullshit ending (even though it makes *some* sense in the grand scheme of things) make me absolutely hate the game though.
I really had no problem with MGS4. You have to accept every game feels entirely unique in tone. MGS feels nothing like MGS2 just like how MGS2 feels nothing like MGS3. And so on and so forth. Personally, my favorite is Peace Walker - and it convinced me that Big Boss was a more compelling character than Solid Snake. But that's my own *preference*. MGS is not the series for flowing tone.
Peace walker really is a great game with some of the best co-op mechanics I've ever seen in a game, it was fun to rush through the main stages for that S-rank, the only, and biggest problem this game has, is that some stages almost demands you to play co-op, or else, you're in for a world of pain. My favorite MGS is MGS 3 tho, I love how smart the AI is, it keeps me on edge the whole time
I will always remember the days of MGS4. Just to think of how difficult it probably was to get a torrented copy on PC and it was never for any other platform. It was the star of the Playstation 3 and you bet there will be die hard fans booting up their PS3's in the future to experience an old relic. It was truly a mega single player experience that completely isolated you from the rest of the PSN community and launched you into the ride of your life without paywalls, DLC, friends lists and other pointless online features that somehow are always in games today. You put in the disc, start your system, and go. Like it should be. We love all the developers who worked on this game. Here's to you.
@@Miyakolover So are you trying to tell me Para Medic as part of the Patriots was a good twist? Eva coming back to life was a honest good thing to do to her character and how many misunderstood her ideals? And Raiden going along with Rose Mary was the best idea for him to fall back on despite the fact that she betrayed him and lied about his son's death? That's a masterpiece?
@@hiptydiptateejack8712 1. Why is Para Medic being part of the patriots a bad twist in the first place? 2. Eva "coming back to life"? What are you talking about? And her "ideals"? What? 3. She didn't "Betray", she had to go with it because Campbell wanted to protect her for Raiden's sake...when the danger was over she revealed everything to Raiden and Raiden accepted it because he loves Rose and there was no reason for him to hate her after that revelation...maybe try to see things from the characters perspective a bit more? Yes, that is a masterpiece : )
@@Miyakolover Okay, first I'll deal with Rose first cause, to me, if you think about this for a second or two its incredibly contrived and Rose is a monster by all means. Campbell too. Back in act 2, when Rose explains what happened between her and Raiden, she doesn't actually lie, all she says about their son and Roy is that the baby hadn't been born yet and that Roy was 'so kind to me', but now we know that Raiden believes that Rose had a miscarriage and that she married Campbell. So here's a revised timeline of the events after: after the Big Shell incident, but before the child was born, memories from Raiden's time as a soldier began to resurface and he became unstable. He started drinking, he stopped coming home, all kinds of tragic stuff. At some point in here, Rose got close to Campbell, also at some point in here Raiden took on the mission of saving Sunny from The Patriots, which means that he was communicating with Eva, so while Raiden is dealing with *PTSD* and *ALCOHOL ABUSE* Roy approaches Rose and says, "Hey! You know you're currently bearing *JACK'S CHILD*? Here's the plan: we're gonna tell him that *HIS SON* is *DEAD*, and then you're gonna pretend that you *DON'T LOVE HIM ANYMORE* and stage a *FAKE MARRIAGE WITH ME.* We'll do this to *PROTECT YOU* and your son from the Patriots." and she said *YES* Who knows, maybe having Raiden believing he lost everything during the most vulnerable period of his life were to kill himself, that somehow covered under the risk/reward section of the details of this plan, isn't really a terrible idea after all. We're told the Patriots don't know 'Little John' was born, which I find baffling beyond all reason since they're everywhere and everything but even if that were the case are we really meant to assume that Rose is completely out of the Patriots sights just because not in a relationship with Raiden anymore? What's stopping them from just using her to take advantage of him again? Do they really think that he just wouldn't do anything if that happened? If she's safe from that with Campbell why couldn't she and Little John just stayed with Campbell in the first place? If Campbell and Rose can both know about his existence why can't Raiden be in the know? The explanation for why they had to lie to him like that is so fucking contrived and also somehow barely explained. Maybe if Raiden from the future was able to communicate with Rose he would of okay the plan, this maybe would have been a sacrifice he was willing to make, but this was *ROSE'S CHOICE.* Am I really gonna believe that she would do that to him and still loves him and that this is gonna be a happy family from here on out?
Back when it first released, I remember everyone raving about MGS4, but nowadays I see it massively hated upon. Me? I loved it when it came out and I still consider it to be my favourite Metal Gear, with MGS3 a close second. I would say it's best played on hard mode first time around too, as you're pushed to make smart decisions and be more careful. As for some of the cancerous comments here... Can we not just accept that different people like different things? I mean, I thought MGSV was trash, but if it's your favourite game in the series then that's just fine, I have nothing against you. Too many gamers nowadays just won't accept opinions other than their own. It's sad and pathetic.
I never quite understood why so many people hate this game yet swear by MGS 5 which doesn't even feel like an MGS game at all, at least MGS 4 managed to stick to the series roots.
Wow Brit, nice video. You sure made some good points. Just a reminder, you're still not helping the economy by holding those bolts, you should look into buying a Pixilizer.
No, if fucking sucks. I have been a Metal Gear fan since the NES days, and I fucking hate MGS4. God it sucks. It was total shit. From shit gameplay, the drebin system brakes the game as you can never run out of ammo, no tension, the bosses I didn't give 2 fucks about. Ocelot was ruined in this game instead of using his father's parentage as reason why he can channel Liquid, nope instead it's the nanomachines and hypnotism. Fuck it was stupid, the whole game was garbage.
After the release of Phantom Pain and the fallout with Kojima, MGS4 really was the last great full Metal Gear Solid game. MGS4 wasn't perfect, but it hit so many right notes with the epic moments and call-outs to the original Solid trilogy. It made such a great bookend to a great series.
That's just it, MGS4 is a series of callouts to the MGS Solid trilogy without any discernible identity of its' own. None of what it does in-game is distinct or meaty enough to warrant coming back to. MGSV did the middle eastern environments way better. MGS3 did jungles way better. And Shadow Moses in MGS1 actually had guards and not those whack-ass dwarf machines that are a joke and a half even if on alert.
@Mike "And Shadow Moses in MGS1 actually had guards and not those whack-ass dwarf machines that are a joke and a half even if on alert." I agree with you on your other points, but if you think that's a fault, then you entirely missed the point of the MSG4 Shadow Moses stage.
Yep. It has to be right up there with the most replayed games I've ever had. In fact, I think it just might be, if not a close behind Super Metroid or R-Type Final. The story was cool, and still makes sense despite being incredibly convoluted (as long as you kept up with what was going on from the other games), I still maintain it has far and away the best gameplay mechanics in the series (although I did miss the survival aspect and isolation of Snake Eater), and the Drebin Points system and ending codenames really kept me hooked after so many clearances of it.
The aesthetic of this game is so strong that makes it worth waiting through several install screens worth it even if the install screens are pretty A E S T H E T I C in there own right
Metal Gear Solid 1 came out just 2 days before my 5th birthday. Till this day it was the single most amazing birthday gift anyone could ever give me. This game series changed my life and made me see the beauty of storytelling in various types of art. Thank you Kojima, for your gift to mankind.
It's "back", but it's only private servers. No official support and requires softmodding. Until Konami does it themselves, it'll never return to the way it used to be.
Defiantly my favorite Metal Gear game and such a fantastic send-off to one of the greatest video game series of all time. Well, you know, before that whole MGS5 thing happened.
I remember playing twin snakes when I was really young. I sucked but loved playing it. My brother sold it and I didn't even remember the name of the game or the characters so I couldn't buy it back or any of the other games. Then quite a few years later I get a ps3 and decide to buy mgs4 since I heard it was good. Thought it was weird but good but didn't understand a god damn thing until act 4. Once I realized the connection between this and twin snakes I pretty much acted like I found jesus christ. Also the pain to my arm because of the gw hallway finalized this game as my favourite of all time for like 7 or 8 years until I played the stalker games. This makes me wanna buy nother ps3 so I can play mgs4 again. Thanks brit
Marisa Nya I am one of the very few who liked the story too (I have played all MGS games except 2 and 4) Doesn't mean I can voice my opinion now can I?
if you don't like MGS2 it's only because you're too stupid to understand the plot of the game, also it's the hardest of them all so If you don't like it your taste is shitty and so are you sorry bud
No one mention that MGS4 is the best surround experience in gaming until now, the sound design is perfect in any scene and the cutscene are more enjoyable than any movies played on a home theater
I've read and watched a lot of content about the Metal Gear franchise. But watching this video about MGS4 and celebrating the franchise may be what finally gets me to play the games
Amazing review, ive always felt that MGS4 gets a lot of hate it doesnt deserve,to me it was the perfect closer to the timeline, yes it has its flaws and its plotholes, but it makes up for it,
It was meant to play during the original ending of mgs4 where Otacon and Snake were executed for thier crimes with philanthropy, makes sense considering heres to you is about two wrongfully executed anarchists.
Thank you for this. I've always loved the metal gear series, and the one moment that sticks out is the final fight in MGS4. That whole sequence is just a blast of nostalgia.
MGS4 is my favorite game ever made. It's alienating to newcomers, long-cutscene-ridden, and up its own ass, and I love every second of it. There's just this satisfying feeling of fan exclusivity, like Kojima made the game just for people who've stuck with the series through it all, and there's such an air of finality to it that causes the ending of the game, despite being an hour and half long, to be in my opinion the greatest ending to a video game ever. "This is good, isn't it?"
"It's not about changing the world. It's about doing our best to leave the world the way it is. It's about respecting the will of others, and believing in your own." - Big Boss 2014
For me, despite having played all MGS titles (removing Acid and Ghost Babel), I think the series is really just MGS 1-4. As far as MGS4, let me tell you a story. I bought a PS3 for this game and dedicated a weekend to it. My friends all gathered together, and I was the only person who played MGS. The weekend was for me, essentially. By the end of the 20 hours I played, every single one of my friends were so invested in MGS4 and it's story that they were asking questions, for clarification, and really enjoyed just watching me play through the whole thing. They loved it so much that they all came back the next day, wanting to watch me finish it. It really was a beautiful experience and I'll never forget it. Two of them went out and bought PS3s and MGS4 later on.
MGS4 is one of those games that's heavily flawed, but you can tell that there was a genuine spark or motivation behind it, even if it came from someone besides Kojima (who I think, it's safe to say, had grown sick of the series at this point). MGSV, by contrast, was much more consistent (although I think the writing for V was some of the worst in the series) but felt very soulless, like everyone involved just wanted to be done with it and sell some microtransactions.
This was like watching the last chapter of one of the greatest "film series" ever. It had some humor, it had drama, action, sadness and heart break. This will always be the best of the whole series.
I love all the MGS games. There will always be a lot of haters of MGS 2, MGS 4 and MGS 5. You know what? The entire franchise remains beloved by me and many others until we are six feet under.
That guitar in Old Snake's Theme. It is so badass. It's like all of the struggle and near death experiences Snake has endured finally caught up with him physically
As an aside, I think this was Hayter's best performance since MGS1, in spite of the often awful writing. True to the character (and to his aching vocal cords) , he convincingly sounded like his body was in utter agony. Shame I couldn't stand his Snake performance in Peace Walker.
That Old Snake voice must've destroyed his vocal cords because the Peace Walker voice is ridiculous. People who are upset that Hayter was replaced must never have played Peace Walker. The voice is awful.
Yep. MGS4 is awesome, but Peace Walker's performance was cringeworthy. There were some good hints in it, for example when he talks to Chico about girls and talking to your crush etc., that was actually quite nice, but 99% of PW's Snake VO was just... ugh. I shudder to this day. Absolutely horrible direction, and Hayter probably thought he was the man, so he put on the cringiest voice he could because in his head, it made sense. Nobody ever questioned him and said "No, David, stop it. You're being a fag. You're a great guy, but stop it. Don't be a fag. OK? No faggotry. Just Snake."
If I spelt "defence" the american way with an "s", I think my credibility as the TGB would be brought into question.
TheGamingBritShow You fraud! I feel so betrayed I'm unsubscribing from Super Bunny Hop.
TheGamingBritShow as an American I spell it defense but that's a subjective thing nor would it affect your credibility in my opinion
Honestly de-fence makes more sense in a morphological-etymology manner. It's just we nuked Japan, and that allows us to use s on some words that the UK uses c on and er on French words.
That's not actually a valid word, anyway. It's a spelling mistake in both International and British english, it's just a mistake Americans make a lot, and is thus attributed to them.
TheGamingBritShow at least your ls aren't ws, as os, and ds js pronunciation wise.
I remeber Hideo Kojima said in an interview, he put all the long cutscenes in the game so he wouldnt feel regrets if he left them out; so real fans were not disappointed.
the cutscenes made me forget there were some bad designs in the game.
@@ALLmasked like which?
Ironically, the cutscenes were needlessly long and needed editing. So the fans weren't happy
Hey mobius 1 I think there are five aircraft approaching at high speed oh shit its the yellow squadron
zombierepublican seriously. I didn’t have a ps3 so when this came out, I had my buddy rent it so we could play it. He would leave the room for long periods of time and ask “how’s the game?”. I couldn’t even answer him after an hour or two. It was 90% cutscenes lol.
At least MGS4 stands as a testament to the amazing power the PS3 had to render buttcheeks in real time.
Even that shot of Otacon's coat rippling from the wind of the helicopter blades is an amazing feat for that generation.
Amen
I love all those install times.
In 30 fps.
i don't even 30 FPS can look good. See Uncharted 4 or Crysis 1. Don't see any Assassins Creed game. XD
MGS4 still looks amazing 10-11 years later
bro same tho, i still play it and its 2019 XD
@@mjzathura8185 I would play it but for some reason my PS3 won't run MGS4 anymore. It'll run everything else but not MGS4. Sadness
I'm still amazed how the graphics still hold up extremely well. I wouldn't mind if they remaster that game, but I think it would present a challenge for port devs since that game relies heavily on PS3 gimmicks. That and Konami unfortunately.
I just played it for the first time and agree.
It's almost 2020 and I still play 1 to 4 at least 4 times a year.
Raiden - "It even rained the day I was born..."
Snake - "You've got it all wrong. You were the lightning in that rain. You can still shine through the darkness." 😤😤😤
"my body is a machine"
"BUT YOUR HEART IS HUMAN"
After I played mgs4 I started seeing my pysch bar go down everytime someone insults me
Didn't know MGS4 needed defending...
It gets a lot of backlash nowadays, especially since Phantom Pain is seen as an improvement over the previous two games before it.
MegaAnitoon It's the most polarizing MGS before V was out. Super Bunnyhop has stated he'll never review it because he can't take it seriously. It's a game that even MGS fans goof on a lot for it's over the top scenes that trump over the previous games.
You either love it or hate it.
MegaAnitoon it's anime rubbish
my thoughts exactly
Because people who've never played the games decided to play MGS4 to "Fit in" with the gaming crowd when "LOL I'M A NERD XD" culture was just kicking up. Because they couldn't understand the character dynamics, nuances, or the story since they've never played a previous title they just hated it. They justified their hate when fake journalists didn't like the game and bandied those reviews around.
Thats how MGS4 got a negative rep. It wasn't the game, it was the people pretending they knew anything about it.
"A surveillance camera?" was my favorite part of MGS4 and possibly the entire series. So much said with so little.
I legit broke out in tears when Shadow Moses came up in the game,
wawa
fucking A! Why don't i hear more people talking about this!? MGS4 was brilliant every step of the way. As mentioned by many, the Perfect send off to the series. But the creme-de-la-creme is the Shadow Moses section of the game. It was Glorious in every way. Goddamn beautiful MGS4. Was.
I juuuuuust finally played through Ground Zero. And am now on to Phantom Pain. MGS4 being the perfect send off for the series, i have my concerns.
Mgs 4 was perfection !!!! I miss this game so much and its multiplayer too .... I did shed a tear with shadow moses
It was an amazing moment, especially for long-time fans of the series. I had goosebumps all over my body when Snake has his dream on the helicopter.
me too dude xD
I will never forget that feeling
Legit just started crying at "Here's to you". Miss MGS so much.
Same. And then the codec call happened and I was laughing again.
bruh....
This is the game that made me buy my ps3. MGS4 is a wild ride from start to finish. I've beaten it tons of times and will always go back to it
Also great video
I heard MGO2 is back online.
Meme Bump With mods
Same here. Was the only reason i had a ps3
Same here. I was just finishing moving out when my old roomie was playing through it. Watched for like four hours. Bought it and a ps3 like the next day.
Nanomachines being the reason for everything that was once seen as mystical and mysterious kinda put me off. But they made up for it with Revengeance's "Nanomachines son!"
Praise the Beef YOU CAN'T HURT ME JACK
DONT FUCK WITH THIS SENATOR
That Other Guy PLAYED COLLEGE BALL, COULDA GONE PRO IF I HADNT JOINED THE NAVY!!!
of ourse there are still some very inexplicable things that cannot be explained by nanomachines either, but yeah that was kinda annoying too.
for the record, I am referring to vulcan raven, The End, Psyccho Mantis, The Sorrow and Fortune
Sara Fontanini don't forget the cardboard box!
If you skip the cutscenes you aren't a real mgs fan.
Would you make an exception if I skipped the cutscenes ONLY when I'm doing a run to get the Stealth Camp and Infinite Bandana and then after I do that, then I actually play the Metal Gear Solid games normally and watch the cutscenes?
@@Xxandrew01 we All know the Rule is
1st gameplay may be done in 20+hours
10-20+ hours of gameplay
4 hours of cutscene
2nd gameplay
-Go bigboss hard or Boss extreme depends on how good you are
3rd gameplay
-Go for big boss emblem or shoot some tanegeshima in acts 1&2 + corpse control with sorrow's doll.
@Grim Scythe shhhh .... we're here to play a kojima game. *eats popcorn*
@Grim Scythe then you can skip the cutscenes and go full assbag somewhere else
i play the game mainly to watch all the cutscenes and over explaining things lol
"Crying wolf is a fight where you move all over the field"
Me: MOVE? (flashback to where I sat under the truck you start next to with a silent rifle and the thermal/nvgs on, happy that frog soldiers never found me, wolf couldn't shoot or pounce on me and the cold weather wasn't able to drain my psyche meter.)
Cynical Nitro
“Who did this to you?”
“Where’s he hiding?”
LOL!!
As someone who played MGS when it originally released, I remember what a big deal it was. The events in that game became iconic to me and my friends. Going back to Shadow Moses in MGS4 brought back so many memories. MGS4 is one of the most incredible gaming experiences I ever had.
Metal Gear Solid 4 brings a certain phrase from another franchise to my mind.
"No crying until the end."
Saluting is also optional, but encouraged.
"....This is good.....isn't it?"
....No, don't do this to me. I'm a grown man, for pete's sake. I'm not supposed to cry. I'm not supp--
*[cigar falls soundlessly to the ground in complete silence]*
I'm....I'm not supposed to....
*HERE'S TOOO YOUUU.....*
I....
*REST FOREVERRR.....*
I...... *tears up*
*THAT LAST AND FINAL MOMENT IS YOURS*
Damn....damn it.... *[begins to sob]*
*AGONY IS YOUR TRIUMPHHHHH*
*[BAWLS OPENLY WITHOUT SHAME, CRIES THROUGHOUT ENTIRE CREDITS]*
Then after the credits you realize that the lyrics perfectly symbolize both Big Boss's life and Solid Snake's life.
Then you realize that it's completely over. All that suffering, finally over. And you won't ever see them again. You won't ever be there for them, even if you're just the player controlling them. But you're slightly happy while you're sad, since their suffering is done and they have time to rest now.
This guy thinks he's such a lad.
Pepsi Man will he be begone?
Novacanoo he's a Jojo what did you expect
Hey Novacono, you should do an analysis on the MG games like you did for the Naughty Dog games
The Gaming Lad
The Sphere Hunter AHHH sue didn't expect to see you here
MGS4 is a technical marvel for the PS3 as MGSV sort of was for the next gen consoles. The textures and sheer amount of detail in everything is baffling.
Though what pushed it from a weak game into a favorable MGS game for me was the more somber moments that appeared through the latter half of it all, the soundtrack of it is still great and I think the Shadow Moses throwback was very well done.
Plus MGO was pretty neato.
Berg Electron MGO was criminally underrated. Sadly MGO3 is nothing like MGO2.
The first bit that really got me was the Guns of the Patriots scene. I was blown away by that. The first levels are good, but nothing bombastic happens like you'd expect in an MGS game. Then Ocelot pulls that, you suddenly realise how reliant people are on nanomachines and how vulnerable it makes them, and it turns into a massacre. Such an underrated moment, wonderfully ties up the entire first half of the game.
Agreed 100%. I beat this back in 2008, 10 years ago and I really want to go through and play it again.
Until you realize MGSV came out for PS3.
Hideo Kojima was the ultimate troll to his fans...
"Oh you're ready for a sequel to see how Snake resolves the events of the first game. Well get ready, because Snake is BACK... for the first quarter of the game. After that, you'll be playing the rest of the way as a character who literally wasn't in any of the trailers or even the box art."
"Okay okay... I get it. You don't like Raiden. Well don't worry, because in the next game you are playing as SNAKE....'s genetic father Big Boss, in a prequel that predates all the games in the series. Answering literally ZERO (wink wink) questions about the previous two entries, in fact raising a slew of all new ones!"
"Alright... alright, the people have spoken, and I am here to comply. This time, I swear, you will be playing as Solid Snake... THE Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid 1... as a seven-hundred-year-old man... what? WHAT?"
Side note: you ever notice how theses so-called "super soldiers" are sort of the worst infiltrators of all time? Seriously, almost every game ends with the bad guy saying "Hah, Snake... your entire mission, and it's subsequent success, was organized entirely by ME! I've been guiding your every move, including the one where you kill me."
Worst... stealth soldiers... ever...
Well, in the end all he can do is take orders. If the people giving the orders are manipulating him, it's not a problem with his stealth skills.
the first part of this comment hits differently because of TLOU2
"Fine, fine... you want to see the end of the Big Boss saga that finally explains how he went from the lovable guy in Snake Eater and Peace Walker to the mad tyrant from Metal Gear 1 and 2? Well prepare to play as BIG BOSS... 's body double who was brainwashed and had plastic surgery to resemble the real Big Boss, doing an irrelevant mission that has no impact on the story while the REAL Big Boss is building Outer Heaven offscreen."
@@xugh1283 I don't get that reference...
@@mattbrendlen a lot of people disliked The Last of Us 2 when it released for much of the same reasons MGS2 was.
I liked MGS4 more than I liked MGS5.
Me too
@@jonts7 imo MGS V is the worst game in MGS series (I'm not including Peace Walker, Survive and P-Ops here ). Missions are repetitive and boring, sneaking is just easy- crouch, then run up to people and spam CQC button, most objectives don't feel important, a lot of missed opportunities. Even the key fragment of the series is lost. It's the story and cutscenes. Almost nothing epic and world changing is happening like it did in other games
@@jonts7 Nah, still bad as a game too. Just another pointless open world with too much empty space. Everyone copying Ubisoft's terrible games has ruined so many franchises.
It's undeniable that 4 is way better.
I like mgs5 only because of the memes
Got to say this video gave me some nostalgia. Awesome game.
MGS4 is probably the only game that takes full advantage of playing as a frail old person, Joel from the Last Of Us is weirdly fit for a 50 year old, same thing goes for Big Boss in MGSV, your not just fighting the enemies, your also fighting against your own limitations
Wait Joel is 50? I though he was in his mid thirties.
Neil Druckman can't write lmao.
ToasterNinja in the prologue he was
ToasterNinja I think he's 57 in The Last Of Us 2
Big Boss is 49 in Phantom Pain
yeah but big boss is the "greatest soldier in the world, BIg Boss!"
Someone send this video to SuperBunnyHop
"Metal Gear Solid 4 may not have the brains of a Metal Gear title, but it sure has the heart--one of the biggest I've seen a game have."
Perfectly said.
Gianfranco Crocamo I just came back to this video after watching George's, and I've gotta say, in one third of the runtime, Gamingbrit has much more insightful and original points to make about this game.
Respectfully disagree. Gamingbrit sounds like he's looking at the game with rose-tinted glasses.
Fuck Superbunnyhop, I fucking hate that guy. He is so smug like he knows what he is talking about when I have schooled him in the comments (which he deleted because cowards do that) on the series.
Mike Stoklasa has a smug thick enough to kill people, but he's earned it. At best, George has read books on game design, which I can say is more than what most people, even in his racket, can honestly say. It's not enough though.
_when I have schooled him in the comments_
What about?
Darth Grumpy
I'm interested in knowing what exactly you corrected him on?
MGS4 is one of the few games that has made me cry. The scene with snake putting the gun in his mouth at the end of the game was really emotional after all the shit he went through.
*standing ovation, this was so well put together
I honestly adore this game. I see the problems, and why many don't love this game. However, I think its a great finale to the Solid saga (Im not counting all those later Big Boss games) Also first!
Anthony Cournoyer peace walker was a good game u should try it out
Go In Nemesis I've played every main Metal Gear games including PW, and it's fun, and I really enjoyed it, but I don't think it holds up to its predecessors
Anthony Cournoyer Yea it had a great story and was really cool on the psp but fighting tanks is only so fun
Anthony Cournoyer One of my favorite platinum trophies
Anthony Cournoyer Besides the few hour long cutscenes, Big Boss at the end and the character of Johnny, I love the game! It's one of the best games ever I think. It's only after MGS5 people started shitting on it. I prefer 4 because it's story driven AND has great gameplay. It's unlike any other game I ever played. The music, voice acting and graphics are amazing. Old Snake is badass! And the humor is still there!
This was the last MGS game period.
Max G You're not wrong, it the final MGS game in the time line, mgs5 takes place in the 80s and it wasn't made by hideo Kojima
KGORE He doesn't mean it like that. He's basically saying MGSV isn't a real Metal Gear game.
To be honest I did enjoy Peace Walker
DBLoCK_ThE_KeyBlade Master yeah peace walker was cool
DBLoCK_ThE_KeyBlade Master peacewalker was dope it should’ve ended it like that
In hindsight, the graphical leap that occurred between 1998 and 2008 was fucking mad.
It's a good game,yes.But I wouldn't think that's some revolutionary thing,it's not like a gap between 1 or 3 years.
But if you talk about graphical leap from 1998 to 2001,then I would agree.
This video reminded me how much I loved those characters.
How emotional, and important everything was to me.
I lterally pissed myself the first time I beat this game. I couldn't put the controller down during the ending. My bladder nearly burst and I pissed myself....
+Shorty
There be a difference between having to pause, and *not wanting to*
So pissing yourself > pausing MGS cutscenes? I would disagree but it's MGS so I might have done the same lol
Is your last name, "Emmerich"?
Bad ending.
Big Boss should’ve been dead for real.
Lmfao
I will never understand why some people (gladly, most people think like me on this one) bash MGS4 so hard. It was the perfect ending for the series. A rush of emotion, ideas, intelligence and overall, love, love for the saga and its incomparable story. I understand some people dislike the long cutscenes, I really do, but for me, there was no other way around it. Look at MGS V, it had few cutscenes and the story felt dissrupted, incomplete (the absence of cutscenes was not the only problem, but it definetly contributed to it).
I adore this game. I was crying almost the entire campaign. It changed me as a human being. It represents the cenit of this amazing saga. It is, despite its flaws, truly a masterpiece.
Andrew S Awww
Snake should have died
Joshu Best Waifu lkhfdswwrtjoouyttrymmiimmmmmmiii
I'll make a few bullet points, then
- Niomi changes side for no reason
- Big I have Cancer scene
- Everything is nanomachines
- Convoluted big ass plotdumps with literally hours of slideshow without and actual point other than making things seem complex
- cool guy Major Zero and goofball, movie-loving Paramedic retcon into The World's Source of All Evil and Even More Evil Unethical, Monster-creating Scientist
- MGS2 retconned into raiden being in FOXHOUND and working for campbell even though its stated several times in MGS2 there is no FOXHOUND and the colonel in MGS2 not only wasn't campbell, it wasn't even a colonel
- theme of antiamericanism in MGS1-3 completely dead
- women's depiction taking a bad turn *think the boss in MGS3 and naomi nonsensically drooling over vamp in MGS4.) (mei ling turning from kid genius to "hey nice butt gurrl")
- vamp is nanomachines
- B&B unit is as charismatic and interesting as MGSV's parasite unit #5 #12 and the unforgetable parasite unit #52
- overall change to style over substance
- rise of the self important monologues that add little to the story and last for half an hour
- pretty much the worst dumbest comedy acts in the series (johnny pooping cutscenes, johnny and meryl having shooting sex/marriage proposal)
- silly liquid arm cop-out/retcon
the list goes on, but that should cover the basics
Andrew S "it was a perfect ending for the series" but the story continues on
CerealKiller why don't you since your a cereal killer
This is like one of my favourite games of all time. MGS 5 got nothing on this shit.
The dirty midget Amen brother. I re-bought this game last summer and got the platinum trophy a month later. This game is amazing, especially after beating MGSV.
lil115slayer I can't even beat mgs5, it's too boring. Unlike earlier games they couldn't keep the long cutscenes entertaining, the stealth is fine but it was basically all the generic usual stealth systems popularized in better games dumped into giant system, (It felt like metal gear but just wasn't as good) the open world made the game boring as shit; the game world was a barren desert that felt empty, making any trip boring as all hell, the change in scenery couldn't even help it, and the villain and bosses weren't good at all, a total lack of creativity. I hated it.
Join the club, I despise Phantom Pain. It fucking annoys the shit out of me that it got such high scores.
Pixar The Great I invested about 200 hours into that game trying to do all the side quests for missions. I despise how they made duplicates of some missions just harder
lil115slayer Me too. I spent ages doing the side missions, often before continuing on with the story. I'm a huge fan of the series, and while I'd noticed that the boss fights were pretty terrible, I was having too much fun with the gameplay. I started realising something was up when Skull Face just randomly died out of nowhere with no confrontation and without him providing any real threat, then you find yourself fighting a Metal Gear that's infinitely more advanced than Rex and Ray ever were (again, for no apparent reason), even though you're only apparently half way through the game. By the time I realised they'd fucked up the story and tried to cover it with duplicate missions, it was too late.
The worst part is, I absolutely adored the game right up until the road trip with Skull Face (minus the boss fights). The gameplay is absolutely sublime, I still maintain that with a proper Metal Gear standard plot and characters, it could've been the best in the series. The shitty duplicate missions, the missing chapter after Liquid steals the Metal Gear and that bullshit ending (even though it makes *some* sense in the grand scheme of things) make me absolutely hate the game though.
I really had no problem with MGS4. You have to accept every game feels entirely unique in tone. MGS feels nothing like MGS2 just like how MGS2 feels nothing like MGS3. And so on and so forth. Personally, my favorite is Peace Walker - and it convinced me that Big Boss was a more compelling character than Solid Snake. But that's my own *preference*. MGS is not the series for flowing tone.
Peace walker really is a great game with some of the best co-op mechanics I've ever seen in a game, it was fun to rush through the main stages for that S-rank, the only, and biggest problem this game has, is that some stages almost demands you to play co-op, or else, you're in for a world of pain. My favorite MGS is MGS 3 tho, I love how smart the AI is, it keeps me on edge the whole time
I will always remember the days of MGS4. Just to think of how difficult it probably was to get a torrented copy on PC and it was never for any other platform. It was the star of the Playstation 3 and you bet there will be die hard fans booting up their PS3's in the future to experience an old relic. It was truly a mega single player experience that completely isolated you from the rest of the PSN community and launched you into the ride of your life without paywalls, DLC, friends lists and other pointless online features that somehow are always in games today. You put in the disc, start your system, and go. Like it should be. We love all the developers who worked on this game. Here's to you.
Then again, MGO was one of the best multiplayer experiences in the genre. So even on that front MGS4 exelled.
I am a die hard fan who has recently booted up my PS3 to play it...
Screw what most people say,Metal Gear Solid 4 is a masterpiece
Its not, really.
@@hiptydiptateejack8712 It is, really.
@@Miyakolover So are you trying to tell me Para Medic as part of the Patriots was a good twist?
Eva coming back to life was a honest good thing to do to her character and how many misunderstood her ideals?
And Raiden going along with Rose Mary was the best idea for him to fall back on despite the fact that she betrayed him and lied about his son's death?
That's a masterpiece?
@@hiptydiptateejack8712 1. Why is Para Medic being part of the patriots a bad twist in the first place?
2. Eva "coming back to life"? What are you talking about? And her "ideals"? What?
3. She didn't "Betray", she had to go with it because Campbell wanted to protect her for Raiden's sake...when the danger was over she revealed everything to Raiden and Raiden accepted it because he loves Rose and there was no reason for him to hate her after that revelation...maybe try to see things from the characters perspective a bit more?
Yes, that is a masterpiece : )
@@Miyakolover Okay, first I'll deal with Rose first cause, to me, if you think about this for a second or two its incredibly contrived and Rose is a monster by all means. Campbell too.
Back in act 2, when Rose explains what happened between her and Raiden, she doesn't actually lie, all she says about their son and Roy is that the baby hadn't been born yet and that Roy was 'so kind to me', but now we know that Raiden believes that Rose had a miscarriage and that she married Campbell. So here's a revised timeline of the events after: after the Big Shell incident, but before the child was born, memories from Raiden's time as a soldier began to resurface and he became unstable.
He started drinking, he stopped coming home, all kinds of tragic stuff. At some point in here, Rose got close to Campbell, also at some point in here Raiden took on the mission of saving Sunny from The Patriots, which means that he was communicating with Eva, so while Raiden is dealing with *PTSD* and *ALCOHOL ABUSE* Roy approaches Rose and says, "Hey! You know you're currently bearing *JACK'S CHILD*? Here's the plan: we're gonna tell him that *HIS SON* is *DEAD*, and then you're gonna pretend that you *DON'T LOVE HIM ANYMORE* and stage a *FAKE MARRIAGE WITH ME.* We'll do this to *PROTECT YOU* and your son from the Patriots." and she said *YES*
Who knows, maybe having Raiden believing he lost everything during the most vulnerable period of his life were to kill himself, that somehow covered under the risk/reward section of the details of this plan, isn't really a terrible idea after all. We're told the Patriots don't know 'Little John' was born, which I find baffling beyond all reason since they're everywhere and everything but even if that were the case are we really meant to assume that Rose is completely out of the Patriots sights just because not in a relationship with Raiden anymore?
What's stopping them from just using her to take advantage of him again? Do they really think that he just wouldn't do anything if that happened? If she's safe from that with Campbell why couldn't she and Little John just stayed with Campbell in the first place? If Campbell and Rose can both know about his existence why can't Raiden be in the know?
The explanation for why they had to lie to him like that is so fucking contrived and also somehow barely explained. Maybe if Raiden from the future was able to communicate with Rose he would of okay the plan, this maybe would have been a sacrifice he was willing to make, but this was *ROSE'S CHOICE.* Am I really gonna believe that she would do that to him and still loves him and that this is gonna be a happy family from here on out?
Back when it first released, I remember everyone raving about MGS4, but nowadays I see it massively hated upon. Me? I loved it when it came out and I still consider it to be my favourite Metal Gear, with MGS3 a close second. I would say it's best played on hard mode first time around too, as you're pushed to make smart decisions and be more careful.
As for some of the cancerous comments here... Can we not just accept that different people like different things? I mean, I thought MGSV was trash, but if it's your favourite game in the series then that's just fine, I have nothing against you. Too many gamers nowadays just won't accept opinions other than their own. It's sad and pathetic.
People who think MGS4 are trash are generally child molesters
People used to hate mgs2 too, but now everyone is fawning over it, acting intellectual.
@@tastycookiechip damn dude
@@tastycookiechip Why lol
My favorite MGS is 4 too, but if I were to call a MGS game trash it would be PW. At least MGS 5 had good gameplay and graphics.
The way to look at MGS4's lengthy story is, it's the "Director's Cut" of what we would normally get. The fully un-edited version.
The opening alone makes this one of the most brilliant storys ever....
War HAS changed....
Todd Howard wants to have a word with you.
I never quite understood why so many people hate this game yet swear by MGS 5 which doesn't even feel like an MGS game at all, at least MGS 4 managed to stick to the series roots.
And MGS4 has weaker gameplay than mgs3
The og formula stagnated by this game
This is the game that got me into the MGS series.
Wow Brit, nice video. You sure made some good points. Just a reminder, you're still not helping the economy by holding those bolts, you should look into buying a Pixilizer.
God I fucking love Metal Gear. There aren't much games with a story like MGS. Bioshock and XENOGEARS are the only games that comes to mind.
Game doesn't need a defense. It is the best ever.
Yeah, I said it.
Wow
Mgs3 will always be the best game of all time. Too bad the remaster is used in a fucking pachinko machine.
No, if fucking sucks. I have been a Metal Gear fan since the NES days, and I fucking hate MGS4. God it sucks. It was total shit. From shit gameplay, the drebin system brakes the game as you can never run out of ammo, no tension, the bosses I didn't give 2 fucks about. Ocelot was ruined in this game instead of using his father's parentage as reason why he can channel Liquid, nope instead it's the nanomachines and hypnotism. Fuck it was stupid, the whole game was garbage.
You really ARE grumpy lad
Darth Grumpy I second that
MGS4 is my favorite one of the series. It was so damn immersive.
Come and buy a Mantis Doll.
#MetalGear
Turbo Button COME AND BUY A PIXELIZER
Turbo Button You know if you're hording all those bolts you're not helping the econimy,come and buy a mantis doll!
After the release of Phantom Pain and the fallout with Kojima, MGS4 really was the last great full Metal Gear Solid game. MGS4 wasn't perfect, but it hit so many right notes with the epic moments and call-outs to the original Solid trilogy. It made such a great bookend to a great series.
That's just it, MGS4 is a series of callouts to the MGS Solid trilogy without any discernible identity of its' own. None of what it does in-game is distinct or meaty enough to warrant coming back to. MGSV did the middle eastern environments way better. MGS3 did jungles way better. And Shadow Moses in MGS1 actually had guards and not those whack-ass dwarf machines that are a joke and a half even if on alert.
@Mike
"And Shadow Moses in MGS1 actually had guards and not those whack-ass dwarf machines that are a joke and a half even if on alert."
I agree with you on your other points, but if you think that's a fault, then you entirely missed the point of the MSG4 Shadow Moses stage.
I fucking love MGS4. Second favorite from 3.
Same here mate. Fucking love MGS4 to death.
Yep. It has to be right up there with the most replayed games I've ever had. In fact, I think it just might be, if not a close behind Super Metroid or R-Type Final.
The story was cool, and still makes sense despite being incredibly convoluted (as long as you kept up with what was going on from the other games), I still maintain it has far and away the best gameplay mechanics in the series (although I did miss the survival aspect and isolation of Snake Eater), and the Drebin Points system and ending codenames really kept me hooked after so many clearances of it.
My order:
1. Sons of Liberty
2. Twin Snakes (or MGS1)
3. Snake Eater
4. MGS4
All were revolutionary in their own right
Same but you mean MGS3: Subsistence!! Greatest game of all time
For me it's gotta be:
3
2
1
5
4
That ending tho... Snake, you just a damn, dirty, DAWG.
AMAZING video, well done
2022 here now, and it’s criminal that this game hasn’t gotten a remaster.
WHAT? A GamingBrit video without a DMC reference?! THE END OF THE WORLD IS COMING
This game still looks beautiful
The aesthetic of this game is so strong that makes it worth waiting through several install screens worth it even if the install screens are pretty A E S T H E T I C in there own right
This game came out 9 years before this video. I checked.
Metal Gear Solid 1 came out just 2 days before my 5th birthday. Till this day it was the single most amazing birthday gift anyone could ever give me. This game series changed my life and made me see the beauty of storytelling in various types of art. Thank you Kojima, for your gift to mankind.
Mgs4 dosent need defending since mgo2 is back lmao
Watcher O'Brien
Since some weeks or remember, I don't remember well. XD
It's "back", but it's only private servers. No official support and requires softmodding. Until Konami does it themselves, it'll never return to the way it used to be.
A Gamer Aaron
If Konami is going to do an online Metal Gear - Zombie game, Why not continuing an old online MG game? c:
it's been back a few weeks ago check out savemgo.com for details.
all you need now is a PS3 and MGS4.
Watcher O'Brien Recently.
Dat ending tho. David and Otacon are down like four flat tires.
Defiantly my favorite Metal Gear game and such a fantastic send-off to one of the greatest video game series of all time. Well, you know, before that whole MGS5 thing happened.
Nice profile pic, Genobee.
That was so beautiful I almost cried at the end. Bless you, sir. You've earned this sub.
Am i the only one who thinks the most important character in the series is Ocelot ?
Probably considering he’s the only character that has shown up in all the mgs games.
@@tahamohammad8842 He wasn't in Peace Walker.
This is my favourite game of all time, HANDS DOWN! Pure fan service, a great ending. Pure nostalgia trip. My best game of all time.
I remember playing twin snakes when I was really young. I sucked but loved playing it. My brother sold it and I didn't even remember the name of the game or the characters so I couldn't buy it back or any of the other games. Then quite a few years later I get a ps3 and decide to buy mgs4 since I heard it was good. Thought it was weird but good but didn't understand a god damn thing until act 4. Once I realized the connection between this and twin snakes I pretty much acted like I found jesus christ.
Also the pain to my arm because of the gw hallway finalized this game as my favourite of all time for like 7 or 8 years until I played the stalker games.
This makes me wanna buy nother ps3 so I can play mgs4 again. Thanks brit
MGS 4 got the heart of the series. I cried to that.
"The new power of the PS3"
That sentence makes me feel old..
I teared up watching this
same bruh, good times were had with this game
MGS4 will always be a great game for me!
I've always loved this game and it's still in my top 5 all time favorites.
who cares dude! you should be searching the area for skidd's agent, he may need our assistance!
Alex Diaz Oh my...This is a comment that reminds of a shitty remake....
I am experiencing many conflicted feelings.
Have you considered buying a Pixelizer?
"Oh Shits Per Moment" is my new standard in game measurement. Subscribed.
9:31 The game over screen is honestly terrifying.
Literally one of the best games ever made.
Did this game really need defending?
or was this another video trying to shit on MGSV?
I'm getting mixed signals here lol
Naked Demon yeah this guy's a dick. Jumping on the MGSV hate bandwagon just because.
Marisa Nya I am one of the very few who liked the story too (I have played all MGS games except 2 and 4) Doesn't mean I can voice my opinion now can I?
You didn't play MGS2 literally the best one, so no you can't voice your opinion and if you say MGSV is good man that's one shitty taste lul
jakenv_ LOL MGS2 IS THE BEST ONE?????? And you're talking about me having bad taste 'lul'
if you don't like MGS2 it's only because you're too stupid to understand the plot of the game, also it's the hardest of them all so If you don't like it your taste is shitty and so are you sorry bud
Ah when subverting expectation didn’t mean ruining your story for shock value. Good times
No one mention that MGS4 is the best surround experience in gaming until now, the sound design is perfect in any scene and the cutscene are more enjoyable than any movies played on a home theater
I've read and watched a lot of content about the Metal Gear franchise. But watching this video about MGS4 and celebrating the franchise may be what finally gets me to play the games
Amazing review, ive always felt that MGS4 gets a lot of hate it doesnt deserve,to me it was the perfect closer to the timeline, yes it has its flaws and its plotholes, but it makes up for it,
Interesting the end credits song, "Here's To You" in also featured in Ground Zeroes. (Albeit a different version.)
It was meant to play during the original ending of mgs4 where Otacon and Snake were executed for thier crimes with philanthropy, makes sense considering heres to you is about two wrongfully executed anarchists.
An incredible defense of MGS4, and a well-deserved one. This is one of my favorites in the series for all the positives stated. Great analysis!
Thank you for this. I've always loved the metal gear series, and the one moment that sticks out is the final fight in MGS4. That whole sequence is just a blast of nostalgia.
MGS4 is my favorite game ever made. It's alienating to newcomers, long-cutscene-ridden, and up its own ass, and I love every second of it. There's just this satisfying feeling of fan exclusivity, like Kojima made the game just for people who've stuck with the series through it all, and there's such an air of finality to it that causes the ending of the game, despite being an hour and half long, to be in my opinion the greatest ending to a video game ever.
"This is good, isn't it?"
mgs4 needs no defense its a great game
Personally I think every metal gear is perfect and I don’t get the backlash on some of them
This might be one of the best videos I have had the pleasure of listening to. Cheers to mgs4
"It's not about changing the world. It's about doing our best to leave the world the way it is. It's about respecting the will of others, and believing in your own." - Big Boss 2014
For me, despite having played all MGS titles (removing Acid and Ghost Babel), I think the series is really just MGS 1-4.
As far as MGS4, let me tell you a story. I bought a PS3 for this game and dedicated a weekend to it. My friends all gathered together, and I was the only person who played MGS. The weekend was for me, essentially. By the end of the 20 hours I played, every single one of my friends were so invested in MGS4 and it's story that they were asking questions, for clarification, and really enjoyed just watching me play through the whole thing. They loved it so much that they all came back the next day, wanting to watch me finish it. It really was a beautiful experience and I'll never forget it.
Two of them went out and bought PS3s and MGS4 later on.
did they beat it?
Zé Ninguém I know that one did for sure.
I didn't think this game needed defending.
MGS4 is one of those games that's heavily flawed, but you can tell that there was a genuine spark or motivation behind it, even if it came from someone besides Kojima (who I think, it's safe to say, had grown sick of the series at this point). MGSV, by contrast, was much more consistent (although I think the writing for V was some of the worst in the series) but felt very soulless, like everyone involved just wanted to be done with it and sell some microtransactions.
MGS5 made me love this game even more!
This was like watching the last chapter of one of the greatest "film series" ever. It had some humor, it had drama, action, sadness and heart break. This will always be the best of the whole series.
What an absolutely bloody fantastic video.
I love all the MGS games. There will always be a lot of haters of MGS 2, MGS 4 and MGS 5. You know what? The entire franchise remains beloved by me and many others until we are six feet under.
You don't have to defend Metal Gear Solid 4. It's already the best game of all time.
good vid, though!
this game is flawed but I still fucking love it
That guitar in Old Snake's Theme. It is so badass. It's like all of the struggle and near death experiences Snake has endured finally caught up with him physically
“Harro Sorrid Snake, would you rike to make save?” Mei Ling MGS1
I was crying as a little girl at the fake end of mgs4. That's enough for me to love this game
It's nice to see the game re-examined now that the 7th Gen system wars are done, slapfights over exclusivity always overshadowed the game IMO.
Greatest mgs after 3 fuck what they say its amazing
the sniper shots edited over the high fives was laugh out loud hilarious
the face camo in MGS4 that made snake look younger was a neat way of allowing players to relive the game as the solid snake they knew
As an aside, I think this was Hayter's best performance since MGS1, in spite of the often awful writing. True to the character (and to his aching vocal cords) , he convincingly sounded like his body was in utter agony. Shame I couldn't stand his Snake performance in Peace Walker.
That Old Snake voice must've destroyed his vocal cords because the Peace Walker voice is ridiculous.
People who are upset that Hayter was replaced must never have played Peace Walker. The voice is awful.
I agree, i dont knw about you but for me at least if MGSV did something right was bring Kiefer voice, the guy was on point!
Santiago Rodriguez I can't even imagine hearing hayter deliver the ashes speech one of the highlights of v even if it was in the trailer
Yep. MGS4 is awesome, but Peace Walker's performance was cringeworthy. There were some good hints in it, for example when he talks to Chico about girls and talking to your crush etc., that was actually quite nice, but 99% of PW's Snake VO was just... ugh. I shudder to this day. Absolutely horrible direction, and Hayter probably thought he was the man, so he put on the cringiest voice he could because in his head, it made sense. Nobody ever questioned him and said "No, David, stop it. You're being a fag. You're a great guy, but stop it. Don't be a fag. OK? No faggotry. Just Snake."
StagFabulous He was told to do the old snake voice for Peace Walker.