Hunting Boomerang - Extreme Range - The Aboriginal Karli
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2016
- Brought to you by www.Throwsticks.com - The Long Range Straight Flying Boomerang known as the "Karli" in the Warlpiri language. Historically it was made with stone tools in the central desert region of the N.T. Australia. We produce this model for sale now using tough modern materials and expert tuning.
Originating from the Aboriginal peoples of the Central Desert of Australia. Karli were used to hunt game out past 60 meters.
The Aborigines did not primarily use returning boomerangs to hunt, except maybe as a distraction, with some notable exceptions. Predominantly they used straight flying boomerangs like the one shown here.
Long range straight flight target throws demonstrated by Benjamin Scott, at ranges out to 90 meters in this video.
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(Update: Aug 17th. I just checked my exact distance on Google Earth to be 83 meters for the long throw recorded in this video. I apologize for my range error here. I was very confident at the time of recording, but I was conflating yards with meters too much here. Future videos will be checked against Google Earth before figures are posted. The maximum straight range of this karli has been tested to be about 110 meters to 120 meters)
(Update: June 8th, 2017. I have now made throwsticks which look similar to this one but weigh more and have straight flight ranges out to 133 meters. I am continuing to pursue research and extend these ranges further. Future videos are ahead.) - กีฬา
Back in the 70's a mate made one at college, first throw he hit a large duck at 30 yards, took its head clean off. He had the duck for sunday dinner!
A story to remember for life XD
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I wouldn't doubt it. They used to sneak up on a pond of ducks, then scare them up, and throw multiple boomerang in to the flock and take them down.
You're perfectly straightforward presentation and your choice to show us a throw with as little preamble as possible have earned my sub.
I hate when a 2 min video turns into a 20 minute fluff video 😅
I’m glad that thing isn’t designed to return to you.
I love seeing videos of people being talented and intelligent.
This is great. Rediscovering the way things were really done. That is a long range throw indeed. Excellent.
Glad you liked. Thanks. This video launched a whole business.
Benjamin Scott
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many thanks for the prompt informative reply will definitely check out the sites you mention 😀
You know. I found the idea of a hunting boomerang to be very strange. But now I understand why they where used. The damn thing self stabilize during flight
Ben??? WOW! It's good to see you and I am not surprised to see you with a "new" hobbies! :)
- Andrew Gibson
that is impressive range for sure!
Looking forward to your videos; this fills an important place in bushcraft!
Thanks. I will try to keep producing them. I am super busy making throwsticks!
Benjamin Scott
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I have a couple of these, gifted to my grandfather by aboriginal men (Yolngu mob) in the 1970s. We threw them around when we were kids, so I know they glide beautifully. (They are antique heirlooms now so no more throwing). One is made from a heavy hardwood, it's weighty and has a sharp edge, very smooth, probably fire hardened. It's a formidable weapon. It doubles as a club in your hand, easy to carry, can be used to cut, scrape and dig, and can outfly a spear and likely kill anything it hits.
Mik,
You are the rare individual who has experience with these. Thanks for sharing your story here.
Benjamin Scott
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Yolngu (Eastern Arnhem Land) didn't have boomerangs any more than Southern mobs had yidakis.
I'm not sure how this relates to the comments but my information is that they were traded out this far. I've handled Central Desert Throwsticks which have blue colored dot art on them.
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My grandfather worked at a hospital at East Arm, Darwin. People were brought in from all over the north for the treatment of leprosy. My grandmother also worked there as an occupational therapist and did a lot of traditional art and craft. Their collection of gifts are all distinctly northern (including yidakis). Reading about it now, I have found out that boomerangs were used in Arnhem land, but for ceremony, as they were not made locally, and were special items that were traded from inland.
Something very similar to this: collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/241906
Wow. Awesome. I am only at the beginning of this journey. I have made a few peices and practiced throwing them. Great to see someone further along!
Glad you enjoyed it. My top straight and level flight with a 12 oz
traditionally shaped kylie is 133 meters straight and level. The upper
limits are beyond this I believe, although non-traditional light weight
and thin kylies have done over 450 meters. The kylie is a very complex
instrument and it's taken me half a decade of hard work to get results
like this.
You killed that post like a Boss! LOL Very awesome video, keep them coming!
Thanks. I've been super busy manufacturing but I hope to get some more videos later this Summer.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
A pleasant change from the million+ boomsticks channels.
Fantastic range! Keep up the good work!!
Thanks. I keep trying to push my target range further and further out, but there is a limit to how practical it is because even if the stick is perfect, the thrower isn't.... Too bad I can't fit these with gun sights!
I plan to hopefully get to the soccer park and throw from goal to goal on a future video. Maybe catch some side views.
That's why I stopped throwing... my accuracy was horrible even at close range.
I'm looking forward to your future videos!
I think it's specific application as much as anything. At 20-60 meters there's a better chance of developing consistent skill to hit a target than at longer ranges, but nailing a bottle in the grass would be tuff. What's nice about the karli is that it is consistent on elevation and straight flight so no compensating for trajectory is necessary. Just throw at your target. A herd of animals could be easily targeted at 80 meters and the wide swath the karli cuts in the air improves the odds of a hit greatly. A single animal ought to be stalked up on as close as possible. For small animals, the environment is critical. The Hopi Indians made great use of similar sticks for rabbit hunting and could take several rabbits in an evening. It's reported that they hunted out to about 50 meters or closer in a desert environment. The sticks will skim/bounce along the ground and chase animals when the environment is right.
I have some more videos ahead.... Thanks for your interest and comments. You're a real, genuine bushcrafter and man.
That was kick ass!
Awesome. Love all low tech, ingenious/indigenous hunting tools.
Glad you like it brother. Check out our Karli Goal video if you want to see this thing fly even farther.
Benjamin Scott
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Low tech is an insult, these truly amazing people used what was available without damaging our environment and made one of the most efficient tools of human-kind. I am sure this is HIGH tech
@@frostbiteyguy if this is low-tech so are airplane's wings 😂
That thing is awesome and deadly!!!
PATRIOT NATION and so perfect against machine gun
Even though I knew that hunting boomerangs existed and were used by the Aboriginal Australians, this is my first time seeing something like this in action. Thank you for sharing this knowledge! I'm here in the Central Valley CA myself. I'm sure you'll agree that there are some great playgrounds here in CA for practicing with primitive ballistic weapon/tool technology.
Thanks for the kind words. I was awestruck when as a boy I read the reports about what these things could do. It sounded out of this world amazing to me. But this are an EXTREMELY obscure topic to research, and I never came across anything else on them. When later in life I went to try to get to the bottom of the mystery with some very purposeful study, I found very little helpful literature. So I had to figure out the physics myself, which I did do. That took me years of field experiments, walking thousands of kilometers after sticks under the California Sun. Boomerangs come back for a reason! I never get tired of playing with these things. It's just in my blood.
Wow, that's a beautiful weapon. Well done
Thanks. This video launched an adventure which eventually became a business.
Benjamin Scott
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"My Boomerang won't come back..."
LOL. Yeah the original "boomerangs," as written about in the mid 1820's in SE Australia were straight flying sticks that did not return to the sender but flew straight and hovering flights to long ranges. Good thing considering how heavy and solid they are. They can cause severe injury on impact.
Benjamin Scott
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"Your boomerang won't come back?"
That is incredibly cool. Getting hit by that would definitely break bones holy shit
What do you think would happen if it hit your shin bone?
@@overthere5815even your femur wouldn't stand a chance. At the very least it will have a huge fracture.
@@Alr1ghtyThenI agree. Also, there's nothin like getting a reply to a comment you made 2 years ago 🤣
@@overthere5815 haha it happens to me sometimes. Other day i got a reply from a 7 year old comment 😅
awesome dude!!
Good work! It would be great to see it in HD because I lose track of it's flight before it gets half way out. They look like they are going nice and straight from what I can see.
Thanks. I filmed in 1080p 60 frames, but it's easier to see when they are painted more brightly. I messed the screen ratio up on this video which keeps it from going full screen, unfortunately. If you check out my other video "Karli Goals" I think you'll find the 95 meter flights easier to see because the karli has white on black paint and there are more camera angles. It is much easier to see in person than on film. In future videos we're going to get out the big sticks and those will be easier to see due to size!
fantastic throw👍
Ben. That's really cool. MTAs are tricky. Even in calm conditions,their flights are considerably unpredictable.
Yeah you need good legs to run after them. Something I now lack..., but they are beautiful to watch.
I'm ordering a few ASAP!
"That throwing-stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us!"
Awesome video and awesome skills!
Thanks :)
Ben
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I am a thrower of returning boomerangs. I love the aerodynamics of boomerangs,returning and non returning.
@@richardsannasardo4026 Couldn't agree more. Flight is fantastic. The straight and level flights of these kylies really capture my imagination. They are like magic. Returning boomerangs are the same way. I was at the WBC in Albuquerque last July and it was fantastic to watch the masters with the returners. My favorite returners are the MTA's.
Ben
Cool. I have been hoping that some one will make/show/explain the Weet Weet. Looks very intersting.
great stuff
Cool video man
Right on! I've messed with trinket boomerangs tourists buy years ago and have developed a liking towards throwing tools... ranged tools really. Bolas, spears, knives, darts, shirking, rocks, even the different bows and arrows.
I'm subscribing now and will be watching and I believe learning from your content as well. Thanks and happy thanksgiving
Right on. Thanks, Happy Thanksgiving to you, and hope you enjoy the channel. Throwing is deeply in our bloodstreams as a part of our survival, and some of us tap into it more than others.
Benjamin Scott
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Good luck with your "shriking" and the Sailor Moon cosplay.
Spelling errors and cosplay..... Been there too I see.
@@wolfmanjackal1427 Please have mercy Sensei Green Ranger. Don't kill me with your shiriking and truck stop knife collection.
@@richardsherman2286Huh? Who or what is a green ranger? Sounds like a Ford Transformer. Doubt I even want to know. I'm curious- why are you trying to troll over a hobby when you could put that energy into preserving what ought to matter to you. Either way good luck.
Wow that is amazing!
Glad you like it. Stay tuned because next year we should be releasing a model that is bigger than this one and does about 120-150 meters straight or more. In fact so far in tests the flights have been much flatter than what you are seeing in this video. These things are amazing!
Benjamin Scott
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Rumor has it that some Tomahawks had very thin, flat handles with thin blades.
Might be thrown like this, I dunno.
WOW AMAZING you blew my mind!!! :D
Glad to hear it. That's tough to do on youtube and in the age of CGI. I made a full sized 12 oz kylie a few months ago that does over 130 meters straight. That one blows my mind too!
Glad you like it!
First video I saw, instant sub
Hey thanks! I hope I can keep up with video making. I've been swamped with work.
Benjamin Scott
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That insane ...awesome hunting natural tool
As an Australian, this is what I understood the Boomerang was. It was used to skim the ground at kangaroo neck height and then take the roo out. i do know Aboriginals did make boomerangs that came back. But not these ones. These were lethal and perfect for Australian marsupials with long necks. All the ones that come back are from souvenir shops. So I'm not sure if original Aboriginals found use for the returning boomerang.
Yeah as I understand the returners were more toys and could also be used to scare and keep game birds grounded. For hunting they needed something that flew straight to the mark.
Ben
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Very cool
That's super cool
That was awesome !!!!!!
Thanks!
Benjamin Scott
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That's awesome
That was cool
The Kylie does not return but is still very aero dynamic.I also appreciate the ancestral and historical aspect of ALL boomerangs and other ancient weapons.
Pretty cool
I bought a small wooden boomerang while I was in Perth, Australia. I brought it home to Louisiana to my brothers house. I jumped the fence into the cow pasture and practiced some short throws to get the technique down, then I threw that sucker as hard as I could. It sounded like a helicopter as it left my hand. I had trouble keeping an eye on its trajectory but realized it was making a vertical circle. I got about tree top high and started coming back to the ground, RIGHT AT ME. I ducked down to the ground and covered my head with my hands, and prayed I wouldn't get hit. I stuck in the ground about 20 feet away. It drove in about 5 inches in dry grass covered earth but broke in half. I was amazed at the speed that thing picked up, how fast it flew.
Holder,
Thanks for the great story! They are amazing. I'm sorry to hear it broke.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Could you imagine being attacked by a tribe of 20 or so each carrying a dozen of them. ...that thing is wicked.
That fact that you can hear when it hits the barn at 80 meters shows how much force it's still carrying.
Yes, and this is one of the small ones! The turbulators on the surface allow it to slip through the air like a hot knife through butter, and so the energy retention at long range is really high.
Benjamin Scott
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Impressive.
My relatives in australia sent me an original "boomerange" & it came back. First throw it shot out, curved up, around & on return hit a neighbors house vent, made a hell of a dent in it. half collapsed the 6 inch sheet metal tube w the turbine on top of it. IMPRESSIVE!! But THOES sticks of yours are AWESOME! Ive still got that boomerange 50 years later but now its just a wall decoration. Its yellow wood w the grain actually following the curve of the tree. Hard as nails. Unknown wood but TOUGH!
Thanks for the great story. If the grain follows the curve then you've got a good one mate!
Benjamin Scott
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Throwsticks Channel , Ive been facinated w Australia since I was a kid. Read TONS about it and the aboriginal folks but never saw anything like your throwsticks. I used to teach basic survival classes & a "throwstick" was simply a round branch about an inch in diameter & as long as a mans elbow to middle fingertip which was flung w a spin for knocking small game but the idea of a flattened one like yours, with its range/power is AWESOME! Im 68 years old, just proves ones never too old to learn something new. THANKS!! For what its worth, a boot tounge & its laces makes a good makeshift "David & Goliath" sling in an emergency. Takes some practice to master but I killed a deer at 40 yds w one & a rock that was golf ball sized. Crushed her skull. Always wondered why the aborigines never used em. The tech involved w both the boomerange & throwsticks is far more complex. In Viet Nam I showed my friends how to make slings from nylon webbing for throwing hand grenades furthur. Worked great!
Dave,
More great stories! Thanks for sharing. We get awesome comments on our channel. Great to find the real people on youtube! I think for bideds in the desert the throwstick is the ultimate weapon. The Aborigines never developed the bow either. Australia is a very different place!!
Benjamin Scott
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Damn you scary, and with just a stick. Ha ha ha ha ha ha Great job. Experience is everything.
These non returning throw sticks are called valari or valai thadi, meaning bent stickin the tamil language from India. Fascinating to see how the aborigines share the same culture from Tamils. Ours were made out of metal for fighting! Thank you and best wishes from India
Thanks for sharing. I'll have to try to make a valari some day.
Benjamin Scott
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That is,for MTAs. A standard returning boomerang should return within 7 ft of point where thrown.
I'm obscenely impressed by bot the distance achieved and by the lack of magnus effect curve during the throw, I'm assuming this down to the a-sym profile of the stick?
Thanks for the nice comment. This video was filmed over a year ago and since then my research has continued and I can make kylies which do over 100 meters straight flights, just like that. If you haven't seen our video Karli Goals, then check it out. We throw 95 meters straight across a soccer field from goal to goal. My best throws are around 130 meters at this point in time. If you visit www.throwsticks.com and go to the history/science page then you'll see a more detailed explanation of the science behind these things. In a nutshell they utilize gyroscopic precession to alter their angle of attack in flight, in order to achieve level hovering flight that doesn't rise or fall as airspeed is lost to drag. The lack of layover is achieved by getting the balance of lift forces correct across the system to compensate for uneven airflow. There's nothing else on earth quite like this.
I have an original 1942 vintage hunting boomerang from Arnhem Land in the Norther Territory. It certainly isn't something that you would want wrapped around your neck at 50 meters. And even a mug like me can throw it pretty good, and I can only imagine how well the the man who made it, tuned it, and used it every day for years and years was with it. Probably as accurate as any bow and arrow at 50 M.
I am Indigenous Australian on my mother's side...Another use that the war boomerang had was as a hand held fighting stick.
You can only imagine just how effective they were as fighting sticks!!!....
Deadly indeed!!!....
awesome
Nice work! Looks like you might live in Acton. Carl
Something your video didn't (couldn't?) show but which I find really cool, is the way that asymmetric throwing sticks slow then speed up with every turn. The short end looks to be the business when standing still, but it seems that the long end really comes around extra fast to deliver the big whack. Perhaps I have this wrong. Any comments.
Yes, the center of mass is closer to one end of the stick than the other. So the leading arm has a bit more slice to its flight path, being longer and slightly lighter than the trailing arm. The spin rate stays the same but the longer arm carries a higher wingtip velocity whenever it moves to the outside. As long as the strike is delivered by that outer edge then you're in business, whichever end it is.
Benjamin Scott
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I half expected it to come flying back and smash the camera
LOL. Yeah good thing it didn't with the amount of force it delivers!
Benjamin Scott
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I would love to learn how to make one of these!
Yeah they are really fun. I may publish on this subject eventually but no plans in the near future. There will be a science page on my website that will give some good information on how kylies operate the unique way they do. It is actually quite multi-dimensional and complex to consistently make throwsticks that perform this well, and there aren't too many people in the world that know how to do it.
I'm opening a business at www.throwsticks.com and will be selling throwsticks early next year.
Great video. Would love to see more. May I suggest putting a watermelon on a pole or something of the sort so we can see what type of damage it will do and to also provide a more realistic target. Thanks
Try this: The video was just for fun but it does feature some target practice against a monster pumpkin. I figured watermelons were too easy so I went for the pumpkin but this one was TOUGH!
th-cam.com/video/TZPBLywViQI/w-d-xo.html
Benjamin Scott
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jaysus, you getting some distance on that sucker, got any hunting vids?
I don't have any hunting vids filmed yet. It may take me some time to get something like that together but I have some customers who are hunting and taking small game with throwsticks and I'm hoping that they will get some videos together at some point. I'm presently making throwsticks that are even larger than the one in the video which will fly over 100 meters and keep a flatter trajectory than you're seeing here. Check out our Central Desert Hunter V. 1.2 at Throwsticks.com
Benjamin Scott
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HOLY SHIT .... GOOD SHOT MAN
Really cool. Will have training videos? I know that might be tough, but maybe worth thing about. Thanks.
I have a video on how to throw and may release another on more advanced techniques. th-cam.com/video/PqZetsJsBzQ/w-d-xo.html
Benjamin Scott
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I make my own boomerangs for fun. Never thought of a killing stick. Nice. Can you show a video of you hitting targets? I'd like to see the accuracy.
Doug,
Accuracy is hard to achieve. Check this out th-cam.com/video/ukO8uF3K8yw/w-d-xo.html
and this th-cam.com/video/TZPBLywViQI/w-d-xo.html
Benjamin Scott
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Yes. You usually do need to run. I believe the industry standard for a good throw and catch is a return and catch not more than 50ft from point where thrown.
Yeah to win a competition they need to stay within an area. But rarely, thermals have carried those things miles away. Gary Broadbent once told me he had an MTA land 171 miles from where he threw it. He had his phone number on it and got the call from a woman in another state! I can't throw a kylie quite that far... LOL. The guiness record for distance was set with an MTA but that's just 400 meters or so. They are interesting little things.
i love it I would love more videos about Boomerang weapons how do you make
Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad you like it. We'll be posting more videos about this amazing and rare topic as time progresses, so check back. I have a video on here with how to make a karli out of a bent tree branch the traditional way. th-cam.com/video/zGcg9m6Eabg/w-d-xo.html The Aborigines of Australia mainly used mulga wood, which is very heavy and hard wood. They would use stone tools including a simple adze and would cut fluting on the upper surface with a kangaroo's tooth! The easier way now days is to use various power tools. The karli in the video, I made from polycarbonate, which is the high impact material they use to make bullet proof glass. It's great for use in harsh environments because it takes a beating with no worries, and it is also just about the same density as the mulga wood that the Aborigines worked with.
Yes. Interesting to say the least. Gary Broadbent would know it well. He is very experienced and talented.
Gary got me started with this stuff. He's a good friend and allowed me to photograph some of his collection, which is featured on my history page of my website. You're definitely right about him. He's a master.
Ben
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awesome vid! now when i get tired of using my sling i can practice with one of these,
Glad you like. I enjoy slinging stones as well but this is my favorite way to do target practice. I'll be posting some more videos and getting our website up and running ASAP. Lots of work going on over here.
the camera was misplaced, it's better to see the damage and accuracy
I have other videos which show what type of impact a kylie can make on a huge pumpkin. TH-camr Adam Celadin has a similar video showing damage caused by one of my mid sized kylies on a variety of targets.
The thing that the world had never much seen before is the straight flight range of something like this. As far as accuracy goes, just aim straight at something and the stick will fly along the plane of your release. Windage is more difficult and my hitting the gate 2 out of 3 was good at that range. It's easy to release early or late. I didn't intend to hit that shed on that 2nd throw but it was my missing the gate by releasing too early. Hand thrown weapons are never as pinpoint accurate as those which are shot off a device such as a bow. But a bow cannot be used to hunt at 90 meters either. Kylies are best for targeting herds or flocks of animals, on leg shots, and not single individuals.
Benjamin Scott
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hi great video demonstrating distance work, not knowing anything at all about boomerang can I ask, is the purpose of the hunting boomerang to stun or kill outright?? many thanks in anticipation
The purpose was always to kill outright wherever possible. On small game instant kills were not uncommon but on larger game such as Emu or Kangaroo a leg or neck break would be the general idea. Some throwsticks in Australia had sharp ends as well, and one report from history said that one was thrown right through a police officer. In India and the United States throwsticks were sometimes used to hunt deer, which were taken on leg shots. Weights from about 10oz to 16oz were common and that's a lot of weight flying through the air at a man's full force. It's a formidable blow and can easily break bones. Waterfowl were hunted in ancient Egypt with throwsticks and murals can be seen in the tombs that depict this. If you check out www.throwsticks.com, you can see these murals on our history and science page. Thanks for the great question.
Benjamin Scott
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great job ! what do you think about the cold steel kylie ?any recommendation for reputable kylie maker that ship internationally ?thanks
It looks like somehow I missed replying to your comment earlier. The Cold Steel kylies have nice streamlined airfoils but they don't produce enough lift to carry the weight of the stick out to range. So the flight path is arched and short. Check out Throwsticks.com if you haven't already. International shipping is available.
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great work mate but didnt have the radar switched on its a low sweep doppler for far out target designation :)
Yep deserved a thumbs up and subscribe ! U gonna show how to make some throwing sticks !?
I have a video on my channel that shows my making a throwstick in a day, if you check that out. It's called "All In A Day's Work." As to whether we'll eventually do some instructional videos, that's hard to say. We've been really busy manufacturing sticks to sell and so video making has been hard to keep up with.
Benjamin Scott
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subbed!
scary weapon!
Here in Australia the Indigenous people can take down a 6 foot tall Kangaroo at 100 yards. The typical Boomerang that comes back are used for ceremonial and demonstration purposes. The Boomerang is designed to disable its target, by striking the leg area. The hunter would then terminate the target.
There's a guy that makes returning boomerangs. Imagine if you both combine the hunting boomerang with the returning boomerang? Would need to wear armor to be safe lol
Yeah that would be a good way to get hurt, if there is such a thing. Fortunately for the thrower it's hard to get something this big and heavy to return in a full circle, even if tried. About 12 ounces. They have just enough lift to fly straight a very long ways!
Benjamin Scott
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@@Throwsticks which is your furthest range, and most powerful hunting boomerang?
@@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique The Central Desert Hunter, definitely. Here's a direct link to it. www.throwsticks.com/central-desert-hunter Watch the video on there. This baby is almost 14 ounces weight and goes about 120 meters flight distance!
Benjamin Scott
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Bows are cool too. Spears are cool.
Nice man, impressive.
Amazing! What kind of wood is it made of ?? I've just seen the "modern" boomerangs but never the originals ones
In this example I'm using a modern material, polycarbonate. It has the same specific gravity as the Aussie hardwoods such as mugla, used to create the historical examples, but it's a lot more durable and isn't affected by changes in humidity. Historically most sticks were relatively straight flying and used for hunting. The returning ones were more used as toys or in more strategic ways but not to strike targets.
Benjamin Scott
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great video ! incredible flying abilities the karli has.
can you give me the name of the cool background music ?
Thanks. Australian Trailblazer is the name of the song.
Benjamin Scott
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looks like as long as your game is down hill your good!
I'm throwing straight and level. There is no hill here. Please watch another video if you are not convinced.
th-cam.com/video/dNBSFocmXlU/w-d-xo.html
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Its ok. Its not a crime to throw down hill.
Actually it would be the crime of false advertising if I claimed I was throwing straight and level but was using a camera trick instead. Throwsticks like the one used in the video are presently priced at $95 each and they'd better do what I claim they do. Jeff Martin over at Primitive Lifeways did a video of the same model just 5 days ago now. In the above video I was slowly at a very slight incline, since the place I was throwing from was a bit lower than the fence.
Benjamin Scott
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Nothing false. Your video is just a video. A presentation. not an advertisement. There's a difference. Your last post was an intentional advertisement. And good luck I hope you sell a ton. I have a feeling they can fly straight, downhill and Uphill. It's no big deal.
Thanks mate :)
Interesting mate 👍🏻... Boomerang were only used around water birds.. We chuck the boomerang and scare the birds of the water and into nets... It may take a few goes to spook the birds but they the boomerang comes back.. Good video for a white fella
Billy,
An honor mate. Thanks. Yeah I've had people tell me in the comments that returning boomerangs were used to target birds and bats. I guess Australia is a big place and it's hard to say anything for sure. I am specializing in making the straight flying throwsticks and then the names of those are different in different locations as well. It seems a lot of people want to call everything "boomerang" but then that's not what I understand that anything was originally called.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Thumbs up for the great distance! I couldn't go beyond 65-67 m with the ones I made. However, the correct term for straight-flying aerodynamic throwing stciks of Australian origin should be "Kylie".
Thanks for the thumbs up. On full sized hunting sized kylies my top distance is about 125 meters, give or take, if I am specifically making something that I want to go a long ways. Usually I'm pretty content with about 100 meters in terms of practical performance, and my top goal is to make something that flies as straight as a laser beam since that allows actual long range target accuracy to be possible. On small thin kylies made out of dense materials, I'm sure I could reach distances over 400 meters, but I haven't done any experimentation on this yet since I'm specializing in full sized replicas. Maybe someday when I get some time, if there is interest.
The term "karli" is Warlpiri, from the Central Desert of Australia, as is the term "wirlki." Karli is the most common word for this specific type of throwstick, which originates from that region of Australia and is basically characterized by the off center bend on the stick. You're right that "kylie" is the internationally recognized term for Australian straight flying throwsticks. And after speaking with Gary Broadbent about it, I decided to stick with the term kylie for future videos, and on my up and coming website where I will be offering them for sale. It's a more common term and I don't want to cause confusion in what can be an already confusing subject.
Wow! You have to be proud of this distance you achieved. A lot of things to share with and to learn from you. Please have look at ky chanelle where you can find a few experimentation of mine. I have used synthetic material substitutes for thougher sticks. I found it impressive that your karlies stand the hits at hard surfaces. My little experience with wood was not promising. Greetings from Istanbul-Murat
Murat,
You're on the other side of the world from me. I'm based in California but in the hills, not the big city. It looks from your channel that you have quite a bit of knowledge of archery! Those are really beautiful looking bows!
Your bird of prey kylie looks a lot like what Gary Broadbent makes. He calls them beak nose kylies. They are a good design and he set the distance record with one of them. I haven't played around with them too much to learn how to tune them completely, but they have a lot of potential. I would recommend making your lifting arm wider and sweeping it back a bit. That lil lil looks really nice.
Polycarbonate is extremely tough. It is somewhat more fragile in conditions below freezing. If repeatedly thrown at boulders like I did at close range, the kylies will eventually break after repeated impacts. The kylies in the pumpkin video were nearly 1 pound in weight each and I was willing to take the risk for the sake of the video since I can just make more.
Wood is good if you get the right stuff and treat it right, but it is not as tough a polycarbonate. I am going to be doing some experiments with garolite as well.
If you're interested in what we're doing, we're going to be opening for business in February and be the first business/website in the world entirely devoted to kylies. To get the inside edge on information, go to www.throwsticks.com and sign up for our growing email list. I'm going to be sending out some product pictures to our members on our next email update.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
P.S. Our website will have a history/science page you'll enjoy too.
I think that the web site is still under construction. I'll be glad to be in touch. BTW, we also have a web-site under the name of Tirendaz, a non-profit group to revive the Turkish traditional archery culture. English version is not very frequently updated but it does exist. You may find it interesting. Wish best luck for the new business. Murat
Hey I'm sorry to hear about what just happened at the club in your country. What a crazy world this is. We have things in common with people across the globe but in our own countries there are crazy people who just want to kill.
It's good to look back to traditions and where we come from.. Whether traditional Turkish archery or ancient throwsticks.
What kind of wood is used to make a boomerang. How many types of different boomerangs did the Aborigines use.
Hunting sticks need very dense hardwoods. In Australia they used a variety. Mainly acacia, such as mulga (acacia aneura) and black wattle. Our modern throwsticks are made from high grade polycarbonate, which features the same specific gravity of Australian hardwoods, but much more durable.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
What is the actual killing or stunning force, the forward movement of the kylie or impact due to the rotating action?
It's both. On the outside wing the velocity is really high, but at the center of the stick it's probably about 50 miles per hour starting out. The sticks weigh about 12-16 ounces and so they are quite hefty and powerful.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
I am curious as to how accurate these are, I've heard they've been used back in the day to hit necks or legs of game to cripple them but I feel like that be hard to do accurately
Great question. This model is extremely flat and straight flying to anywhere you aim, but human throwers are not perfect and may struggle to target individual animals beyond a certain range, depending on the thrower's skill. Think of any throwing sport and this is no different other than that there is not trajectory, it's just straight to the target at any range. They are fantastic for targeting groups of animals such as a flock of turkey or geese, where they act like a shotgun and can even take out more than one target at a time. Historically they were a mainstay survival tool in one of the harshest deserts on the planet!
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
@@Throwsticks nice
nice music
Surprised it hasn't been banned in California like nunchucks, etc. Thank you for the video!
Too cool!
What materials are they made of and what do you sell them for?
We still sell the Karli for 89.99 and they perform even better than they did in 2016 when we filmed this. They are made from tough black polycarbonate and finished to order.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
@@Throwsticks Thank you.
I would be interested in buying these
These are really the most amazing things. My enthusiasm for them is pretty intense and so we're working to start up a business selling these ancient weapons. Our goal is to be fully ready for business early next year. If you would like to receive updates on our progress as we get ready for our final flight, then go to our website www.throwsticks.com and sign up with our mailing list. We'll put you on the inside track. More videos ahead as well.
Greeting fellow Indiana man
Greetings blood brother!! Thanks for tuning in.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
So what is it that makes it useful in hunting? speed? weight? And... What size of target can they effectively be used for?
One of this size 11oz would be good for small game up to the size of turkey or goose. At about 11oz to 16oz and with fine edges, kylies are quite literally bone breaking weapons, useful for game up to the size of emu or deer. In the modern world there are more humane ways to take large game.
The usefulness is in the ability to deliver a heavy club out to ranges of 100 meters, allowing a primitive hunter to target groups of animals at extreme ranges.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Q: What do you call a boomerang that doesn't come back?
A: A stick
Boomerang were made to not come back so Real boomerang ain't toys my friend white fellas turned a stick into a toy but my people who invented the object that you called (a stick) my people made a weapon so yes it is a stick until your looking come towards you then you will crap ya self I'm not going to lie I would to lol
crumbs that stunning guess it would hert even at 90 meters
Yeah at 11 oz, this one is just a small one. My bigger model is 15oz and does over 100 meters. Kylies were used for hunting by breaking bones.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
FAscinating, but I would starve to death if I had to rely on this tool! Don’t think I could hit that red barn if I was 10 yards from it!
I better check out the butcher shops in the area!
Tim,
Yeah it takes practice. The red barn wasn't very edible, unfortunately. I have some customers who are getting small game with them. They are best used by several hunters at once and thrown at a group of animals. Emu make ideal game for throwsticks.
Benjamin Scott
Throwsticks.com
Yo hice uno similar y cuando lo tire no volaba solo caia acaso se hace mas aerodinamico o como?
Son muy complejos para afinar correctamente. Asegúrese de que su superficie inferior sea plana y que la superficie superior sea curva.
Además, asegúrese de tener una flexión adecuada en el codo. Las puntas de las alas deben estar ligeramente apuntadas hacia arriba o niveladas pero no hacia abajo. Esto se llama diédrico.
¡Los mejores deseos!
Benjamin Scott
www.Throwsticks.com
I mean,to me they are cool. Not everyone will agree at that is totally fine and expected.
in already make and throw returning boomerang and understand how it works. I need dimensions on making one of these. Do you make those available?
We're working on getting a business together where we can sell these in the near future, including possibly selling hard wood bent elbows such as the one I used to make a karli in this video th-cam.com/video/zGcg9m6Eabg/w-d-xo.html
We've found that the tuning of straight flying boomerangs is much more difficult than with returning boomerangs and it has taken us years of our own research to perfect our technique. In terms of patterns, historically, karli were just made from slightly bent hard wood tree branches which were worked within the shape limits that nature provided with each individual piece of wood. The bend of a straight flying boomerang is generally much more opened up than on a returning boomerang. They are also much heavier, thicker, and bigger than their returning cousins. Articles can be found online about making straight flying boomerangs. But it seems that with the sport focus of the boomerang world, few people are making them these days in a quality form, and especially not in the large hunting forms used by the Aborigines. That is what we are specializing in. Visit our website www.throwsticks.com for more info as it becomes available.