10:08 you can bind the back buttons without a pc app. Make sure the controller is on Classic mode, then hold the top left button that looks like a weird triangle with 3 balls until the color ring starts blinking. Press one of the back buttons and the press whatever button you want to bind it to and then press that weird triangle button again and it will be registered.
Dude you are a life saver. I did a Google search and couldn't find anything, you saved the day. I am pinning this comment and making a short form video soon showing the world how to bind those bad boys so be on the lookout for a shout out in that video
I also have this controller, couple of notes. -To be fair I believe the PS4 / PS5 slider is due to how hall effect sticks need to be tuned in order to work with each console. It does seem unnecessary, but I won't complain at added compatibility. Also due to Sony's lockdown of vibration features between these generations. - The triggers are not digital mouse click, but they do have hall effect sensors. When you set them to hair trigger in the software they feel faster than mouse click ones to me. It can almost be jarring how fast they are in fact I may adjust them down a bit. If anyone is interested the sensitivity+ setting in the software puts the sticks into raw input mode. Which is an important piece of information to have when tuning them. Raw input is a bit closer to traditional controllers circularity wise and response curve wise. I have been keeping it turned off to keep the near perfect accuracy of 0.0 to 0.2 % error. EDITED: for additional context with sensitivity+ off you have a radial max deadzone so your sticks make that perfect circle in gamepad tester. That should lead to less dead areas (the red) when testing since well the error is 0.0 - 0.2% it is all blue. The response curve is a bit dialed back usually because the max deadzone is smaller. When you turn sensitivity+ on it goes into raw input mode. That technically removes the max deadzone so the sticks in theory are only limited by the physical gate of the friction rings. That will give a typical joystick error on the circularity tests. It will also be slightly more responsive which you see for your self by taking readings holding the stick all the way out in both modes to see the values. Definitely sucks the one stick was defective. If you want well tuned hall effect sticks right now, this is one of the better or only options out there with as many features as it has. Sure the gamesir is a cheap alternative, but it is definitely not quite at the level of this controller. I like it so far, the accuracy is night and day, aim assist feels different with this controller it is somehow more sticky. My theory , unproven, is the accuracy provides CoD with better location data thus generating a stronger aim assist when in the proper location. The speed of the triggers when set to the fastest setting "pro" in software and the S1-S4 buttons is impressive. I have many other pro controllers and the speed on this beats mouse click controllers in my opinion. Between the accuracy and the speed of those inputs that is enough for me to say this is a good controller. Long term we will see how it goes, I hope to see some meaningful firmware updates with hopefully an overclock option. I also have a Hypr controller on order with hall sticks, so I will see how that is in comparison. I have owned a PS5 scuf, PS5 Aim Controller, PS5 self built extreme Rate parts, and dual sense edge. I am done with stick drift my expensive aim controller sticks crapped the bed in 3-4 months... $80 or something to replace and the paddles break in 1 -2 weeks. This controller for me has more pros than cons in many ways. I dont want to keep spending money because of drift and broken paddles.
Ps5 vibration system is patented by sony, no controller other than sony branded one will work on ps5 games with vibration fiture. The button allow you to play a ps5 game version on a game like apex because you can't dowload ps4 version of Apex on ps5.
@@zanguiefcarcasse3628yet another reason I prefer custom dual senses that start life as a stock controller such as Battle Beaver, aim, hex, and hypr to name a few
My understanding is that there are 0 aftermarket PS5 controllers that have rumble or haptic feedback because Sony. The only controllers that can have it are first party dualsense/edge or obviously modded controllers that start life as a dualsense. The toggle switch for PS4 enables vibration because it's allowed for PS4 games and not PS5.
Thanks man! I also wrote a comment about the button ps4 ps5. Nacon did what was possible within Sony's rules. Hall effect for us customer! Precision level miles away from all other brands, but nobody seems to understand this...
For what it's worth, I have this controller, and I didn't have any problems using the software and the controller was picked up just fine once I toggled the switch on the controller.
Only use I can see for the thumbstick shaft "movement restrictors" is to place the fattest one on the Left Stick so you can flick the movement stick faster. You'd need to also adjust the response curve for the stick as well so that it reaches top speed with less movement as well, since the "movement restrictor" will mean the stick reaches the shell faster.
The response curve wouldn't help that. Outer threshold would need to be reduced as the stick still wouldn't reach 100%. Not all games have a outer threshold setting so yeah those restrictors are pointless.
About that stick error - you have to adjust your profile in advanced mode, switch to linear curve without Sensitivity+ (av error 0,0% to 0,4% both sticks). Check it as soon PC app works, mine works well. Classic mode is so busted...
If I was running any of all the other accounts on TH-cam making reviews of controllers I would've just make a video with a link to this guy's channel. Easily the best!
PHIL! Kev your reviews have kept me pretty damn entertained over the years and really the only place I will go before picking up a new pad. Keep the great content coming for us stallions and stallionettes.
So i as a person with nerve damage in his right hand i prefer to have the r1 and r2 buttons bound to paddles on my left side so i don't need to strain my right arm as much. I have an xbox power a fusion pro v2 controller which i use all the time. However i upgraded to ps5 and have been searching for a pro controller for the ps5 that suits my needs recently. You have convinced me to buy this controller based on its rear buttons being well suited to my needs.
That 20% of error on the left joystick and that assent vibration on PS5 games, for me is not acceptable. I hoped so much for this controller especially for the hall effect joystick, but as i see is worse than previous version. Thank's for the reviw mate, you're helping a lot.
I think it's because the software settings for the left stick curve.This happened to me with my Nacon Revolution for Xbox when i change the stick curve from liner to custom curve.
The only remark I can make as being a Playstation licensed controller is ... why are not the analogs next to each other like the Playstation ones, but instead has the Xbox diagonal analog sticks position which I personally don't like.
32:28 "Common" Classic is for binding buttons without the app, Advanced is for binding buttons with the pc app and using profiles, i think up to 4 different profiles can be used.
Have it and love it, aiming is very accurate and fast feels like aim assist is stronger on cod. kept breaking paddles on dualsense edge.. had victrix gambit it kept having issues with right analog.. i also have the victrix bfg pro its great hasnt failed me yet since release just wish the polling rate is higher...had the elite 2 stick drift was crazy and it was heavy lol... scuf reflex impact,infinity all them joints failed after a few months...
I feel this review was a little all over the place. I felt you praised a lot of things about it (WAY more than the Victrix). Then just arbitrarily put everything as a con and other similar controllers above it. Either way, love the reviews generally!
I'm primarily a PC gamer, and I'm currently using the Victrix Pro mainly because the 4 rear buttons were a better fit than some of the other controller options but it lacks Gyro motion controls. I've been told by another reviewer that this controller does have Gryo motion controls. Can you confirm this? if so could you possibly test the gyro in the Steam PC software? Steam has an option to configure Gyro usage if the controller has a Gyro sensor.
The reason they sank the PS button is on asymmetric stick design controllers, most players use their right thumb and go over that button to the dpad whilst still moving with the left stick.
@@Rawzix totally overpriced. The build is nowhere near as big a jump as the Xbox Elite is over a regular Xbox controller. The battery life is EVEN WORSE than the standard controller. It lasts around 4h before you're getting low battery alerts. Abysmal.
@@yarbles66 fair point. battery isn’t really a problem for me though as I personally can play wired without it bothering me. the reason I’m considering getting the DS edge is mostly to counter stick drift. I’ve had 2 dualsense get stick drift now and buying a 3rd would set me at the price point of getting an edge. The dual senses seem to last on average about 7-8 months for me before they start getting stick drift, I don’t really wanna spend 80 bucks on a controller for it to break just over half a year. I rather just get the edge then and have to spend the 25 bucks for the replaceable sticks. Theres plenty of years until the PS6 comes out so I would have to constantly buy 80 bucks controllers if I don’t get the edge… my other choice would be getting a 3rd party controller with hall effect sticks but then I won’t be getting haptic feedback or adaptive triggers. Plus the hall effect sticks aren’t completely protected from stick drift even though people like to believe that, the stick can get off centered after certain use. also with the edge I can tune the deadzone in settings which further helps me combat stick drift. In my current situation the DS Edge seems to be the best purchase, I mean it sucks that the customer has to pay for a solution but what other choice do I have? I’m open to any other suggestions
Man I wish the Razer controller was overclockable that would literally be the perfect controller for me. Need your recommendations because you’ve tested so many controllers, what is a controller that comes with mechanical buttons, is overclockable, Xbox layout, and has HE thumb sticks. I’m using the victrix gambit and I love it because of how fast it is but I would love to tryout mechanical buttons .
I think you are the best YT channel when reviewing controllers. But of course, this is all a mater of opinion and taste...I will buy this controller, and the reason is that once I bought the first Nacon for my ps4 at the time, I got so used to it, my brain registered those back buttons position...I grab a normal dualsense in my ps5 and in FPShooters is like I cant play...my hands search automatically those back buttons. Also, the xbox like config, I got used to it to...the previous Nacon got some bad reviews, but I enjoyed it so much, with this one I just know it will be the same. Based also on your reviews I was about to buy an AIM controller, but the announce of Nacon rev 5 came, and I will not think twice, I just have my brain mechanicaly trained for Nacon controllers config...and I have to say, if it is just as good as the unlimited pro 4, its good enough for me.
@@dat1ytcomment262 not yet...I will buy it when it is available at a store here in Portugal where Im client, is not yet available. But I just know I will love it...scuf can have more things that people like, AIM seems to be great to. But, Im just so used to that rear buttons position and also the Xbox like config...the vibration perks the dual sense have with the adaptive triggers and all that are fun, but for me is a small thing compared with the main factor: rear buttons and position of those buttons.
@joaovasco3059 From the reviews on the websites the small issues I have seen are the back buttons being easily pressed and one review saying the stick cap can fall off during intense gameplay. Have you ever had problems with the back buttons accidentally being pressed on the PS4 nacon controller?
@@dat1ytcomment262 my experience with the unlimited pro 4 is very very good, never had those problems. And once I got used to the back buttons position...I simply cant have a better experience with others, cause I am so used to it. And the pro 5 is the same, so I just know it is the pro controller for me...but it is my personal experience. It happend to me to buy things based on the reviews saying is the best, and it also happened buying things that can have kind of bad reviews and for me its amazing...which is the case of the Nacon pro 4. It wasnt realy bad reviews, but people usually dont put it on the same level as the scuf for example. My advise is, if you want to buy a pro controller, and if the vibration is not that important for you, think on to things: do you want the normal config, or the left analogic in other position, like with the Xbox config? And, do you want padles or buttons, and where do you want them? Grab your controller and act like the buttons/paddles were in the specific positions, and decide with that. I am positive you cant go wrong with at least 3 options, the scuf, the AIM and the Nacon. The Edge has only 2 back padles instead of 4 so it isnt and option for me. The Razer Wolverine has a high price, but the real problem are the buttons, they simply seam weird. Other options arent in the same level, for me. So decide taking those considerations, but in my personal experience, long live Nacon!...that thing of easily pressing back buttons, I had a period to adapt, but once I got used, again, I simply dont want another configuration.
As far as no vibration in the controller, no one i know that uses PS5 actually has the vibration turned on. They all turn that off. So no vibration is not a big deal to some people. Guess it just varies.
You know what the tootsie rolls on cables are for, EMI (Electro Magnetic Interference), it filters the signal and cleans it up so your inputs are correct and not sometimes mixed
Good afternoon, please tell me, my touch pad does not work when I play games for PlayStation 4 on PlayStation 5, I tried switching the switch on both ps5 and PS4, but the touch pad still does not work. And if I play the same games on PlayStation 4, then the touch pad works. What kind of problem could this be?
I just got mine for $125 dollars at a best buy during black friday. Thoroughly satisfied. Nacon is based, this controller comes with 4 convex thumbsticks and 2 concave. It is simply a fact that the rounded ones are smoother for aiming, the concave ones make for more rigid motions. I'm not too stoked at how seamless the lower two rear bottoms are, at first i accidentally clicked them too much, but with some retraining my grip it's no longer an issue and i started actively using all 4 buttons. I must say though, the d-pad is very figity, on the inside, you can see that the omnidirectional inputs are prioritized, with the 4-way action sitting deeper inside. This causes a lot of misclicks because of the omnidirectional sensitivity. I resorted to setting common d-pad buttons, such as for pings, on a rear button. Suboptimal configuration. But i got it cheap and it does feel great aiming with essentially no deadzone and more accurate input. Unlike scuf, this controller won't melt away. I personally prefer asymmetric layout. The hall effect is a + SONY can burn for selling pro controllers for $200 WITHOUT hall effect, what a choice.
Wanted to throw in there, another couple of quirks i noticed. The mute button doesn't work if you have a usb(better) headset plugged into the ps5. Sad to go back to the toggle switch. Also stock with no weights installed, the controller is a little top heavy, so i recommend using weights. whatever is comfortable for you, kinda depends on if you have the controller resting in your lap, or suspended in the air.
Hmm just bought this controller and so far can't complain. Haven't had any of the issues you mention. Maybe software updates have fixed since upload? The only thing that sucks is the polling rate.. I'm not sure if that's something an update could ever fix though?
@@TheGlobuleReturnsYou overpaid for something that you only intend to use on PC tbh. The main reason why anyone buys this controller is to have a hall effect unit to use with their PS4/PS5.
@TheGlobuleReturns Great decision! I recently bought the Vader 4 Pro, and it's amazing. I also have the Nacon Revolution 5 Pro, but I got a great deal for it, and it's only going to be used on my PS4 and PS5 (when I buy it). I much prefer it over the stock controllers, as the layout is better and it feels very premium. But yeah, I would never recommend it as a PC only controller, especially when Flydigi exists.
On 05:19, @gamer Heaven, what is that smoking Ace Gun on the desk?
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I have like a little "clicking" noise on the right stick when i do circle motion and listen to it closely.. the left stick is completely silence. Is my controller defective or is this considered "normal" ? Could you check yours and tell me your expereience? 2nd As soon as i customise the curve on the right stick and dont use the presets (progressive etc) and go to test in app the stick wont go all the way full circle anymore, dont matter what shaft option i use.. but happen only when i manually change the curve. Its fine with the preset curves. Could you check that too if its "normal" ? Just wanna make sure if i have to really return it or not. Because if its line a problem on every nacon five i dont have to go through all the struggle to get a new one just to find out it still has the same errors or i even get a even worse controller worst case...
@13:04. Sir, I am going to request you speak for yourself on this matter. I cannot use a PS5 layout comptroller comfortably. My thumbs need to be stretched out for movement.
So are the issues with us any better in 2024? I.e meaning resolved. I was looking at the victus BFG and razor V2 pro and they kind of don't seem to be worth it compared to their build quality. What I'm trying to find an Xbox style PS5 controller because the PS5 controller hurts my hand and risks for whatever reason.
Can you please connect this controller to pc VIA "STEAM" and let your pc only users know if you can re-bind every button, stick,peddles, and touch pad when connected to STEAM BIG PICTURE MODE (please note you must enable steam input for ps5 controller in settings >controller first)
Hey man, great channel, love it! Question about the Nacon and this model in particular. There is a "battery-saving" mode one can activate where it turns vibration and led's off. Will this make the controller communicate with the pc faster? I'm a little bit let down it's around 3ms. Regards /Naconfan
I bought the Nacon Revolution Pro 5 too. When I looked at the instructions...WTF, no English. 😂 Also, you can program the buttons on the back without a computer. On the C/A select switch put it on C. Then press the button on top of the controller opposite of the wire/wireless switch. Press the back button with the face button you want. When your done just press the top button again and your done. The application software ware is awesome. You can select instant triggers, pro short or full trigger. You can save 4 profiles on PS5 mode, then 4 profiles on PC, and 4 profiles on PS4 ( all profiles can be different from each other). Your left thumbstick must be a fluke because my thumbsticks are perfect (maybe I got the lottery pick!).
Hey gamer heaven do you still think the game sir T4 is as good as it was wean you reviewed it because you gave that controller similar and even better scores then this controller in a lot of ways witch is crazy because that controller is 40$ and this is 200$
In Fortnite do emotes not work with some controller joysticks? I have nacon rev pro 5 but when I bring up emote and move right joystick around it won’t scroll to select but DualSense controller joystick works. I’ve unplugged everything, restarted and still didn’t resolve. Any tips or am I out of luck with some controllers?
I also had trouble getting the PC software to work. After I got all the settings done on the controller like the popup said I just started randomly pressing buttons then the app came up and said it needed an update. And this was when the controller was wired to my pc
I’m very new to ps5. Literally bought the console to play MK 1. I used the Elite controller and really liked the disk for MK 11 but I haven’t found a good one for ps5 yet. I had high hopes for the dpad on this. I did pick up the BFG pro and don’t hate it but it’s not exactly what I’m looking for. From a strictly fighting game perspective, possibly even dpad perspective 😂, could you recommend the controller on the dpad alone? I’m just curious before I buy it
So from what ive noticed, the advanced switch lets you pick from custom profiles you can set using the app and the common switch disables it so its default
Lol, so funny, for the mods ? It's sad for the legit players that will face scuff modded ones. But if Anticheat online get to ban them. The ones training their aim with nacon pro will have a lot more accuracy on target speed.
I would never ever even consider buying another Nacon product. I had 2 revolution 3's. Neither of the Bluetooth dongles functioned out of the box. And neither one lasted more than 3 months.
Can someone explain how the F I take the traditional d-pad off? I want to try the dish again and I can't get that d-pad off, feels like I'm going to break it.
Can you, my friend, make a video to find out the highest poling rate and latency on ds4 that can be obtained on the nacon 5 pro while doing an over clock test on the 3 profiles, PC and PS4&5 ?
Why are ps4 and ps5 controllers so expensive I bought the gamesir g7 but can't get use to the thumb stick layout need a ps4 or ps5 controller style please help
Nice Review. Please guide me which controller to choose for my fps games like rainbow six and call of duty. I'm stuck between choosing Dual edge, Scuf fps,...!
On ps4 I tried: 2 scuf generations (both broke paddles and paddle switches died), razr (left stick drift), nacon v2 and v3 (both perfect with zero problems). Hoping this new one for ps5 continues my previous experience.
I'm looking for an alternate to the BFG that has the XBOX layout. I like the BFG, but the trigger actuator is too sensitive and I keep shooting when I don't want to. I have triggers set too full motion, but some games register a pull with minimal movement. I guess it's a dead zone situation for the triggers? Have you noticed that, and is this a better alternative vs the Razer?
Hey, what can I say? You were right! At least whoever that voice was was right. I changed the dead-zone on the right trigger to where it wont actuate if my finger is resting on it! Thanks!
Among the Nacon revolution pro 5 and the Razer wolverine v2 which one would you recommend? I can't use "dualsense shaped controllers" because they hurt my thumb badly and I don't really care about rumble and adaptive triggers (I can buy them at the same price, so that's not an issue) I've watched the comparison at the end of the video, but unfortunately I can't use any of your suggestions since, apart from the victrix, they all are modded dualsense I think that the wolverine would be a no brainier for me, but the fact that razer included mismatched sticks (instead of offering two domes or two raised sticks) is severely pushing me back, since I hate mismatched thumbsticks and AFAIK they don't even sell replacements the revolution pro 5, on the other hand, feels packed with features that I wouldn't even use (Bluetooth headphones compatibility, weights, analog stoppers), but them being Halleffect and having that "thick raised" cap, is so tempting It's a shame that nobody released a cheap controller and have to pay 200$ more to play comfortably, but I'd like to have more input
I came to comment a lot here to share my opinion. I have never felt so much precision on a controller, the nacon is so smooth with the metal rings and you can get a lot more accuracy for long range shoothing dmr. I now tried so many controllers and never I felt any big differences, but the nacon pro is what I was looking for. And when you go with a game with crazy deadzone you can't remove or lower, you can be smart and create a map adapted for the game. For example GTA5 or red dead 2 are similar weird shooting, so bad people go for aim assist... 1 milimeter input to 5 is same speed, 7 and to the edge is max. Leaving you with no accuracy to speed balance. That is why you better play it with mouse if you want accuracy and no aim assist.
thanks to both of you :) I'll definitely keep that in mind while buying a new controller! I must say that the nacon is extremely tempting now since I'm curious about the difference in feeling between standard sticks and HE sticks, if they offer so much precision
I have the Nacon Revolution Unlimited Pro for PS4 for a few years now, and with not that much use, one of the thumb stick snap-ins snapped. Luckily there was others included. Also one of the triggers have this annoying and loud scratching and squeeky noise thats driving me crazy. I highly prefer my PS5 Aim Controller, even though that controller had to have a thumb stick base replaced as it cracked. Never any issues with other controllers, and I own 20-25 in total that still works from different consoles.
Mine felt on the ground, lost the thumbgrip, step on it, broke the litle clip of one side, put it back in and was able to use it no problems even it was easier to take off but don't fall upside down
I guess it's become a new trend for third party controllers to completely remove the vibration motors under the name of "Pro Gamer" or "Competitive" and still have exaggerated prices. I bought the Razer Wolverine V2 Pro to use in CoD and especially fighting games on my PS5, and I was extremely pleased with its D-Pad. On the other hand, having 6 extra buttons (classic Razer) is a feature that I really like (like Wolverine Ultimate for Xbox), especially for FPS games. However, despite the updates of this device, there is a serious Dead Zone problem, and although this is not a problem in fighting games, but it is a real problem while playing FPS games. I was thinking of buying this device from Nacon a while ago, but I couldn't wait and bought the Dualsense Edge. As I can see from the review, I didn't make a very wrong decision (especially regarding the D-Pad). Edge is definitely a much better choice for Mortal Kombat 1 as a fighting game right now, the D-Pad feels a little different compared to the regular Dualsense and that's definitely a nice thing. On the other hand, in fighting games that do not have a "Motion Move" system (like MK1), the Pivot D-Pad of the Wolverine V2 Pro can give a very bad experience... The only thing that makes me think about the Edge is that it could have at least 4 extra buttons, but it still gets used to it... I played MW3 with Edge throughout the beta period, and it definitely gives great performance with its minor tweaks. Of course, Haptic Feedback and Adaptive Trigger features are undoubtedly among the biggest advantages of the device. As a result, it seems that the situation of these third-party companies releasing devices that are either of poor quality (like Victrix) or have many features trimmed, even if they are "licensed", will continue for a while. Even though I used to use Series X, I still miss my Elite Series 2 in some aspects... Also thanks for the review.
If I understand it correctly it's Sony's fault that we don't have those "extra" features, they just don't allow/don't provide technology to use it in the 3rd party controllers. That explains why 5 Pro has rumble in ps4/pc mode, but doesn't have it in ps5 mode. As a PC gamer I don't mind not having rumble in ps5 mode, I will use ps4 mode instead but I see why people are upset about it
There may actually be many reasons behind this situation. Licensing problems are of course one of them, but using ordinary (non-haptic) vibration is not included in this. There are already a few models on the market with normal vibration features. Of course, it would be wrong to expect features such as Adaptive Triggers or Haptic on 3rd party devices. Another reason for this situation is the problem of devices with low material quality, such as Victrix Pro BFG; money paid for licences. As far as I know, Sony charges a high fee for licensing, and such brands make deductions from various things in order not to impose these prices on users. In fact, this is a very reasonable situation. Well, of course it would be nice to see all the features in such "Pro" devices, but unfortunately it does not happen and there seems to be nothing much to do about it.
@@dazelya It has rumble though, it just doesn't work in ps5 mode. I assume that's because you'd have to translate the "pro" haptic feedback to rumble, perhaps it's different in some way
10:08 you can bind the back buttons without a pc app. Make sure the controller is on Classic mode, then hold the top left button that looks like a weird triangle with 3 balls until the color ring starts blinking. Press one of the back buttons and the press whatever button you want to bind it to and then press that weird triangle button again and it will be registered.
Dude you are a life saver. I did a Google search and couldn't find anything, you saved the day. I am pinning this comment and making a short form video soon showing the world how to bind those bad boys so be on the lookout for a shout out in that video
No problem! I kept on tinkering with the controller til I found out it was possible. @@GamerHeavenOfficial
@@TheRealPaullIt's mad how it took some random guy tinkering in order to find this out rather than Nacon just telling us.
I got my box from France so I had to Google translate just to find out it wasn't truly wireless and Bluetooth. Gotta use the dongle
Nice bro
What we want
1: Hall effect
2: 4 back inputs(paddle or button)
3: hair triggers/mouseclick
4: wireless connectivity
1:replaceable joysticks like dual sense (Hall effects are ass)
5:touchpad
6:PlayStation layout
7:split d-pad
4. PS5-like latency of
Sega Saturn and/or Sega Genesis 6-button controller D-pad
Hall effect on the dualsense edge and I would be good forever
I also have this controller, couple of notes.
-To be fair I believe the PS4 / PS5 slider is due to how hall effect sticks need to be tuned in order to work with each console. It does seem unnecessary, but I won't complain at added compatibility. Also due to Sony's lockdown of vibration features between these generations.
- The triggers are not digital mouse click, but they do have hall effect sensors. When you set them to hair trigger in the software they feel faster than mouse click ones to me. It can almost be jarring how fast they are in fact I may adjust them down a bit.
If anyone is interested the sensitivity+ setting in the software puts the sticks into raw input mode. Which is an important piece of information to have when tuning them. Raw input is a bit closer to traditional controllers circularity wise and response curve wise. I have been keeping it turned off to keep the near perfect accuracy of 0.0 to 0.2 % error.
EDITED: for additional context with sensitivity+ off you have a radial max deadzone so your sticks make that perfect circle in gamepad tester. That should lead to less dead areas (the red) when testing since well the error is 0.0 - 0.2% it is all blue. The response curve is a bit dialed back usually because the max deadzone is smaller. When you turn sensitivity+ on it goes into raw input mode. That technically removes the max deadzone so the sticks in theory are only limited by the physical gate of the friction rings. That will give a typical joystick error on the circularity tests. It will also be slightly more responsive which you see for your self by taking readings holding the stick all the way out in both modes to see the values.
Definitely sucks the one stick was defective. If you want well tuned hall effect sticks right now, this is one of the better or only options out there with as many features as it has. Sure the gamesir is a cheap alternative, but it is definitely not quite at the level of this controller. I like it so far, the accuracy is night and day, aim assist feels different with this controller it is somehow more sticky. My theory , unproven, is the accuracy provides CoD with better location data thus generating a stronger aim assist when in the proper location. The speed of the triggers when set to the fastest setting "pro" in software and the S1-S4 buttons is impressive. I have many other pro controllers and the speed on this beats mouse click controllers in my opinion. Between the accuracy and the speed of those inputs that is enough for me to say this is a good controller.
Long term we will see how it goes, I hope to see some meaningful firmware updates with hopefully an overclock option. I also have a Hypr controller on order with hall sticks, so I will see how that is in comparison. I have owned a PS5 scuf, PS5 Aim Controller, PS5 self built extreme Rate parts, and dual sense edge. I am done with stick drift my expensive aim controller sticks crapped the bed in 3-4 months... $80 or something to replace and the paddles break in 1 -2 weeks. This controller for me has more pros than cons in many ways. I dont want to keep spending money because of drift and broken paddles.
Ps5 vibration system is patented by sony, no controller other than sony branded one will work on ps5 games with vibration fiture.
The button allow you to play a ps5 game version on a game like apex because you can't dowload ps4 version of Apex on ps5.
Thnx bro, would you rec this for PC?
Does it have vibration?
Thank you for sharing this information, there is some good stuff in here itsBozzy
@@zanguiefcarcasse3628yet another reason I prefer custom dual senses that start life as a stock controller such as Battle Beaver, aim, hex, and hypr to name a few
@@HSGG_NJ You're very welcome. No, and yes but not for PlayStation 5 games
My understanding is that there are 0 aftermarket PS5 controllers that have rumble or haptic feedback because Sony. The only controllers that can have it are first party dualsense/edge or obviously modded controllers that start life as a dualsense. The toggle switch for PS4 enables vibration because it's allowed for PS4 games and not PS5.
Thanks man!
I also wrote a comment about the button ps4 ps5.
Nacon did what was possible within Sony's rules.
Hall effect for us customer!
Precision level miles away from all other brands, but nobody seems to understand this...
For what it's worth, I have this controller, and I didn't have any problems using the software and the controller was picked up just fine once I toggled the switch on the controller.
That is great to hear Bonanza Brandon
Is the software available on android?
Congratulations on almost reaching 100k subs. Soo well deserved.
Thank you very much!
🤣 dude I’m so glad u came up in my recommended feed. Great work 👊
rip epos gaming headsets😔😔😔
Only use I can see for the thumbstick shaft "movement restrictors" is to place the fattest one on the Left Stick so you can flick the movement stick faster. You'd need to also adjust the response curve for the stick as well so that it reaches top speed with less movement as well, since the "movement restrictor" will mean the stick reaches the shell faster.
The response curve wouldn't help that. Outer threshold would need to be reduced as the stick still wouldn't reach 100%. Not all games have a outer threshold setting so yeah those restrictors are pointless.
At first I thought they made the thumbsticks taller until I got it. Useless for me.
Thanks for reviewing this as I was wondering about this controller the other day.
About that stick error - you have to adjust your profile in advanced mode, switch to linear curve without Sensitivity+ (av error 0,0% to 0,4% both sticks). Check it as soon PC app works, mine works well. Classic mode is so busted...
If I was running any of all the other accounts on TH-cam making reviews of controllers I would've just make a video with a link to this guy's channel. Easily the best!
"They get the job done. Job being sending them back to the lobby" LOVE IT!
Hell yeah brother 😂
PHIL! Kev your reviews have kept me pretty damn entertained over the years and really the only place I will go before picking up a new pad. Keep the great content coming for us stallions and stallionettes.
So i as a person with nerve damage in his right hand i prefer to have the r1 and r2 buttons bound to paddles on my left side so i don't need to strain my right arm as much. I have an xbox power a fusion pro v2 controller which i use all the time.
However i upgraded to ps5 and have been searching for a pro controller for the ps5 that suits my needs recently. You have convinced me to buy this controller based on its rear buttons being well suited to my needs.
That 20% of error on the left joystick and that assent vibration on PS5 games, for me is not acceptable. I hoped so much for this controller especially for the hall effect joystick, but as i see is worse than previous version.
Thank's for the reviw mate, you're helping a lot.
I don't think the vibration thing is Nacon's fault.
He got a defective controller, mine is flawless.
I think it's because the software settings for the left stick curve.This happened to me with my Nacon Revolution for Xbox when i change the stick curve from liner to custom curve.
The only remark I can make as being a Playstation licensed controller is ... why are not the analogs next to each other like the Playstation ones, but instead has the Xbox diagonal analog sticks position which I personally don't like.
32:28 "Common" Classic is for binding buttons without the app, Advanced is for binding buttons with the pc app and using profiles, i think up to 4 different profiles can be used.
Have it and love it, aiming is very accurate and fast feels like aim assist is stronger on cod. kept breaking paddles on dualsense edge.. had victrix gambit it kept having issues with right analog.. i also have the victrix bfg pro its great hasnt failed me yet since release just wish the polling rate is higher...had the elite 2 stick drift was crazy and it was heavy lol... scuf reflex impact,infinity all them joints failed after a few months...
Bro I’m on the fence on all these controllers which one do you recommend for durability and performance?
I feel this review was a little all over the place. I felt you praised a lot of things about it (WAY more than the Victrix). Then just arbitrarily put everything as a con and other similar controllers above it. Either way, love the reviews generally!
I don't understand how these companies can STILL charge so much when you can get a Kaleid T4 for £40 and it's just as good (in my opinion).
Facts but I can't use the T4 on my ps4 or ps5
@@glt918 correct and because I only have a PC my stupid monkey brain forgot 🤣
Because if you want the features they offer and a controller with that name on it, you’ll pay for it.
@@glt918if you have a brooks adaptor you can because they have a pass through port for wired controllers.
sheeeeesh did not know about this controller, just ordered one from amazon tyvm
I'm primarily a PC gamer, and I'm currently using the Victrix Pro mainly because the 4 rear buttons were a better fit than some of the other controller options but it lacks Gyro motion controls.
I've been told by another reviewer that this controller does have Gryo motion controls. Can you confirm this? if so could you possibly test the gyro in the Steam PC software? Steam has an option to configure Gyro usage if the controller has a Gyro sensor.
@@ChaoticMuchX how does the gyro stack against the Dualsense?
@@ChaoticMuchX I had the feeling it wouldn't be as good 😌 the dualsense gyro is still at the top.
That friday clip made my day and elevated an already great video. Keep up the good work.
I love Nacon. I'm gonna buy this one.
Great Video btw
The reason they sank the PS button is on asymmetric stick design controllers, most players use their right thumb and go over that button to the dpad whilst still moving with the left stick.
I'm in the market for a pro controller and I'm glad i can cross this one off the list. Great review!
Make sure you cross the DS EDGE off the list. I feel robbed.
What's the best pro controller in your opinion?
@@yarbles66why? whats wrong with it?
@@Rawzix totally overpriced. The build is nowhere near as big a jump as the Xbox Elite is over a regular Xbox controller. The battery life is EVEN WORSE than the standard controller. It lasts around 4h before you're getting low battery alerts. Abysmal.
@@yarbles66 fair point. battery isn’t really a problem for me though as I personally can play wired without it bothering me. the reason I’m considering getting the DS edge is mostly to counter stick drift. I’ve had 2 dualsense get stick drift now and buying a 3rd would set me at the price point of getting an edge.
The dual senses seem to last on average about 7-8 months for me before they start getting stick drift, I don’t really wanna spend 80 bucks on a controller for it to break just over half a year. I rather just get the edge then and have to spend the 25 bucks for the replaceable sticks. Theres plenty of years until the PS6 comes out so I would have to constantly buy 80 bucks controllers if I don’t get the edge… my other choice would be getting a 3rd party controller with hall effect sticks but then I won’t be getting haptic feedback or adaptive triggers. Plus the hall effect sticks aren’t completely protected from stick drift even though people like to believe that, the stick can get off centered after certain use.
also with the edge I can tune the deadzone in settings which further helps me combat stick drift.
In my current situation the DS Edge seems to be the best purchase, I mean it sucks that the customer has to pay for a solution but what other choice do I have? I’m open to any other suggestions
Man I wish the Razer controller was overclockable that would literally be the perfect controller for me. Need your recommendations because you’ve tested so many controllers, what is a controller that comes with mechanical buttons, is overclockable, Xbox layout, and has HE thumb sticks. I’m using the victrix gambit and I love it because of how fast it is but I would love to tryout mechanical buttons .
I think you are the best YT channel when reviewing controllers. But of course, this is all a mater of opinion and taste...I will buy this controller, and the reason is that once I bought the first Nacon for my ps4 at the time, I got so used to it, my brain registered those back buttons position...I grab a normal dualsense in my ps5 and in FPShooters is like I cant play...my hands search automatically those back buttons. Also, the xbox like config, I got used to it to...the previous Nacon got some bad reviews, but I enjoyed it so much, with this one I just know it will be the same. Based also on your reviews I was about to buy an AIM controller, but the announce of Nacon rev 5 came, and I will not think twice, I just have my brain mechanicaly trained for Nacon controllers config...and I have to say, if it is just as good as the unlimited pro 4, its good enough for me.
Did you get it and if so, how's your experience been?
@@dat1ytcomment262 not yet...I will buy it when it is available at a store here in Portugal where Im client, is not yet available. But I just know I will love it...scuf can have more things that people like, AIM seems to be great to. But, Im just so used to that rear buttons position and also the Xbox like config...the vibration perks the dual sense have with the adaptive triggers and all that are fun, but for me is a small thing compared with the main factor: rear buttons and position of those buttons.
@joaovasco3059 From the reviews on the websites the small issues I have seen are the back buttons being easily pressed and one review saying the stick cap can fall off during intense gameplay. Have you ever had problems with the back buttons accidentally being pressed on the PS4 nacon controller?
@@dat1ytcomment262 my experience with the unlimited pro 4 is very very good, never had those problems. And once I got used to the back buttons position...I simply cant have a better experience with others, cause I am so used to it. And the pro 5 is the same, so I just know it is the pro controller for me...but it is my personal experience. It happend to me to buy things based on the reviews saying is the best, and it also happened buying things that can have kind of bad reviews and for me its amazing...which is the case of the Nacon pro 4. It wasnt realy bad reviews, but people usually dont put it on the same level as the scuf for example. My advise is, if you want to buy a pro controller, and if the vibration is not that important for you, think on to things: do you want the normal config, or the left analogic in other position, like with the Xbox config? And, do you want padles or buttons, and where do you want them? Grab your controller and act like the buttons/paddles were in the specific positions, and decide with that. I am positive you cant go wrong with at least 3 options, the scuf, the AIM and the Nacon. The Edge has only 2 back padles instead of 4 so it isnt and option for me. The Razer Wolverine has a high price, but the real problem are the buttons, they simply seam weird. Other options arent in the same level, for me. So decide taking those considerations, but in my personal experience, long live Nacon!...that thing of easily pressing back buttons, I had a period to adapt, but once I got used, again, I simply dont want another configuration.
As far as no vibration in the controller, no one i know that uses PS5 actually has the vibration turned on. They all turn that off. So no vibration is not a big deal to some people. Guess it just varies.
You know what the tootsie rolls on cables are for, EMI (Electro Magnetic Interference), it filters the signal and cleans it up so your inputs are correct and not sometimes mixed
Good afternoon, please tell me, my touch pad does not work when I play games for PlayStation 4 on PlayStation 5, I tried switching the switch on both ps5 and PS4, but the touch pad still does not work. And if I play the same games on PlayStation 4, then the touch pad works. What kind of problem could this be?
Phil, always enjoy watching your vids.
Best review I have ever heard. Your content deserves more views sir.
Thanks Matt
I just got mine for $125 dollars at a best buy during black friday. Thoroughly satisfied. Nacon is based, this controller comes with 4 convex thumbsticks and 2 concave. It is simply a fact that the rounded ones are smoother for aiming, the concave ones make for more rigid motions. I'm not too stoked at how seamless the lower two rear bottoms are, at first i accidentally clicked them too much, but with some retraining my grip it's no longer an issue and i started actively using all 4 buttons. I must say though, the d-pad is very figity, on the inside, you can see that the omnidirectional inputs are prioritized, with the 4-way action sitting deeper inside. This causes a lot of misclicks because of the omnidirectional sensitivity. I resorted to setting common d-pad buttons, such as for pings, on a rear button. Suboptimal configuration. But i got it cheap and it does feel great aiming with essentially no deadzone and more accurate input. Unlike scuf, this controller won't melt away. I personally prefer asymmetric layout. The hall effect is a + SONY can burn for selling pro controllers for $200 WITHOUT hall effect, what a choice.
Wanted to throw in there, another couple of quirks i noticed. The mute button doesn't work if you have a usb(better) headset plugged into the ps5. Sad to go back to the toggle switch. Also stock with no weights installed, the controller is a little top heavy, so i recommend using weights. whatever is comfortable for you, kinda depends on if you have the controller resting in your lap, or suspended in the air.
Hmm just bought this controller and so far can't complain. Haven't had any of the issues you mention. Maybe software updates have fixed since upload? The only thing that sucks is the polling rate.. I'm not sure if that's something an update could ever fix though?
Does it continue to have no vibration whatsoever on PS5 games?
@@captsteals I'm using for PC only but I'm pretty sure it will never have vibration on PS5.
@@TheGlobuleReturnsYou overpaid for something that you only intend to use on PC tbh.
The main reason why anyone buys this controller is to have a hall effect unit to use with their PS4/PS5.
@@StardustLegacyFighter yep, returned it and ordered a flydigi
@TheGlobuleReturns Great decision!
I recently bought the Vader 4 Pro, and it's amazing.
I also have the Nacon Revolution 5 Pro, but I got a great deal for it, and it's only going to be used on my PS4 and PS5 (when I buy it).
I much prefer it over the stock controllers, as the layout is better and it feels very premium.
But yeah, I would never recommend it as a PC only controller, especially when Flydigi exists.
Phil. Great vid. Always great controller reviews
I'm not sure who Phil is, but thank you good friend
All I'm asking is just a controller that work exactly like Duelsense but with hall effect
this
Pretty sure hex gaming has got Hall effect.
On 05:19, @gamer Heaven, what is that smoking Ace Gun on the desk?
I have like a little "clicking" noise on the right stick when i do circle motion and listen to it closely.. the left stick is completely silence.
Is my controller defective or is this considered "normal" ? Could you check yours and tell me your expereience?
2nd
As soon as i customise the curve on the right stick and dont use the presets (progressive etc) and go to test in app the stick wont go all the way full circle anymore, dont matter what shaft option i use.. but happen only when i manually change the curve. Its fine with the preset curves. Could you check that too if its "normal" ?
Just wanna make sure if i have to really return it or not. Because if its line a problem on every nacon five i dont have to go through all the struggle to get a new one just to find out it still has the same errors or i even get a even worse controller worst case...
@13:04. Sir, I am going to request you speak for yourself on this matter. I cannot use a PS5 layout comptroller comfortably. My thumbs need to be stretched out for movement.
do you think he will review the new scuff controller for pc?
So are the issues with us any better in 2024? I.e meaning resolved. I was looking at the victus BFG and razor V2 pro and they kind of don't seem to be worth it compared to their build quality. What I'm trying to find an Xbox style PS5 controller because the PS5 controller hurts my hand and risks for whatever reason.
I've been waiting on this
FYI you can configure back buttons without pc on classic mode
You sold me...on crossing this off my list. Thanks much!
Can somebody jus tell me whats a good controller for the ps5 that doesn't get stick drift and has instant triggers
Can you please connect this controller to pc VIA "STEAM" and let your pc only users know if you can re-bind every button, stick,peddles, and touch pad when connected to STEAM BIG PICTURE MODE (please note you must enable steam input for ps5 controller in settings >controller first)
Oh how i have missed you!!! So ready fpe this one. I have yet to have a pro controller for ps5.
Hey man, great channel, love it! Question about the Nacon and this model in particular. There is a "battery-saving" mode one can activate where it turns vibration and led's off. Will this make the controller communicate with the pc faster? I'm a little bit let down it's around 3ms.
Regards
/Naconfan
I bought the Nacon Revolution Pro 5 too. When I looked at the instructions...WTF, no English. 😂
Also, you can program the buttons on the back without a computer. On the C/A select switch put it on C. Then press the button on top of the controller opposite of the wire/wireless switch. Press the back button with the face button you want. When your done just press the top button again and your done. The application software ware is awesome. You can select instant triggers, pro short or full trigger. You can save 4 profiles on PS5 mode, then 4 profiles on PC, and 4 profiles on PS4 ( all profiles can be different from each other). Your left thumbstick must be a fluke because my thumbsticks are perfect (maybe I got the lottery pick!).
Great job, Phil! I love your Joy Con
Do those controllers you mentioned what's better then the revolution anti stick drift
Hey gamer heaven do you still think the game sir T4 is as good as it was wean you reviewed it because you gave that controller similar and even better scores then this controller in a lot of ways witch is crazy because that controller is 40$ and this is 200$
Bing Bong! That thumbnail though... 💯
Love the channel. Looking forward to your Scuf Envision Pro review!
First also love oyur contnet keep it up!
Thanks! Will do!
Good I need more! Also I ordered a Flydigi Vader 3 pro do you think that was a good decision?@@GamerHeavenOfficial
Would you recommend the PDP BFG PRO or the Nacon Revolution 5 Pro?
In Fortnite do emotes not work with some controller joysticks? I have nacon rev pro 5 but when I bring up emote and move right joystick around it won’t scroll to select but DualSense controller joystick works. I’ve unplugged everything, restarted and still didn’t resolve. Any tips or am I out of luck with some controllers?
I also had trouble getting the PC software to work. After I got all the settings done on the controller like the popup said I just started randomly pressing buttons then the app came up and said it needed an update. And this was when the controller was wired to my pc
The pdp victrix doesnt require sliding the ps4/5/pc button?
I’m very new to ps5. Literally bought the console to play MK 1. I used the Elite controller and really liked the disk for MK 11 but I haven’t found a good one for ps5 yet. I had high hopes for the dpad on this. I did pick up the BFG pro and don’t hate it but it’s not exactly what I’m looking for. From a strictly fighting game perspective, possibly even dpad perspective 😂, could you recommend the controller on the dpad alone? I’m just curious before I buy it
Will you be checking out the new Scuf Envision/Envision Pro?
Does it have independent back buttons? I mean, can you assign keyboard buttons, or only mirroring existing ones from the controller?
When do we get to see a review on the new Scuf Envision Pro PC controller?
Great review $200 and inflation im thinking about it because I do love the adaptive triggers l. Cheers
So from what ive noticed, the advanced switch lets you pick from custom profiles you can set using the app and the common switch disables it so its default
Are you gonna do a teardown because I'm very curious about that left stick module & how they got the face buttons to feel better than stock
How can i Turn Off the LED?
Did you figure it out?
You gotta review the brand new PC controller SCUF just released. For me the controller was exactly what I was looking for and I just got it today.
Lol, so funny, for the mods ?
It's sad for the legit players that will face scuff modded ones.
But if Anticheat online get to ban them. The ones training their aim with nacon pro will have a lot more accuracy on target speed.
I have one pre-ordered and I'm very excited to get my hands on it.
@@zanguiefcarcasse3628actually scuf controllers have no mods on board
I would never ever even consider buying another Nacon product. I had 2 revolution 3's. Neither of the Bluetooth dongles functioned out of the box. And neither one lasted more than 3 months.
You should show us the best controllers you recommend in a tier list. Love your content❤
Can someone explain how the F I take the traditional d-pad off? I want to try the dish again and I can't get that d-pad off, feels like I'm going to break it.
Are you going to do a modded zone Hall effect joystick review
Can you, my friend, make a video to find out the highest poling rate and latency on ds4 that can be obtained on the nacon 5 pro while doing an over clock test on the 3 profiles, PC and PS4&5 ?
Do the trigger stop work for you on Warzone? Can’t get the R2 to shoot while using it
With the 2.4 ghz dongle being used and it being recognized as an Xbox 360 controller when overclocking, is it using X-Input on PC?
I had an interesting issue. I tested it on Dead Space Remake and when using the ripper the blade wouldn't come out if the trigger stop was on.
Why are ps4 and ps5 controllers so expensive I bought the gamesir g7 but can't get use to the thumb stick layout need a ps4 or ps5 controller style please help
Cant connect my revolution pro since 3 hours... I need help please
Nice Review. Please guide me which controller to choose for my fps games like rainbow six and call of duty. I'm stuck between choosing Dual edge, Scuf fps,...!
Does it have a microphone like the ps5 controller?
On ps4 I tried: 2 scuf generations (both broke paddles and paddle switches died), razr (left stick drift), nacon v2 and v3 (both perfect with zero problems). Hoping this new one for ps5 continues my previous experience.
Wait so this $200 controller is polling at 250hz & my $40 gamesir tk4 is polling at 1000hz same as my gaming mouse? That’s crazy.
FYI all the writing on the back of the box is in French.
Wee wee
Sounds awesome, cant wait to get mine
Love the channel - do you think PS will eventually bring out an updated edge controller with 4 buttons on the rear?
Does the remaping for the rear buttons from the past versions work on this one? Have you tried it?
I wish to see a teardown video of this boy to check if it use that ksilver jh16 joystick
What’s your opinion on the best Hall effect controller available for PC?
HI can i use makros with this gamepad? like do a command with only 1 button? Like right down left Square just pressing 1 button?
Can you please tell me how to change the polling rate of the gamesir G7 se in the Nexus app as you previously mentioned
Hey. Conroller master. Hi. Do we have analog dualshock 4 for ps5. For me ds5 so painful to play.
You testing the scuf envision pro?
I'm looking for an alternate to the BFG that has the XBOX layout. I like the BFG, but the trigger actuator is too sensitive and I keep shooting when I don't want to. I have triggers set too full motion, but some games register a pull with minimal movement. I guess it's a dead zone situation for the triggers? Have you noticed that, and is this a better alternative vs the Razer?
I can hear you saying "try the app", so I'm trying it
Hey, what can I say? You were right! At least whoever that voice was was right. I changed the dead-zone on the right trigger to where it wont actuate if my finger is resting on it! Thanks!
@@MadDarthMattit was me
@@flippingassassin2054 Gasp!
Among the Nacon revolution pro 5 and the Razer wolverine v2 which one would you recommend? I can't use "dualsense shaped controllers" because they hurt my thumb badly and I don't really care about rumble and adaptive triggers (I can buy them at the same price, so that's not an issue)
I've watched the comparison at the end of the video, but unfortunately I can't use any of your suggestions since, apart from the victrix, they all are modded dualsense
I think that the wolverine would be a no brainier for me, but the fact that razer included mismatched sticks (instead of offering two domes or two raised sticks) is severely pushing me back, since I hate mismatched thumbsticks and AFAIK they don't even sell replacements
the revolution pro 5, on the other hand, feels packed with features that I wouldn't even use (Bluetooth headphones compatibility, weights, analog stoppers), but them being Halleffect and having that "thick raised" cap, is so tempting
It's a shame that nobody released a cheap controller and have to pay 200$ more to play comfortably, but I'd like to have more input
I came to comment a lot here to share my opinion.
I have never felt so much precision on a controller, the nacon is so smooth with the metal rings and you can get a lot more accuracy for long range shoothing dmr.
I now tried so many controllers and never I felt any big differences, but the nacon pro is what I was looking for.
And when you go with a game with crazy deadzone you can't remove or lower, you can be smart and create a map adapted for the game.
For example GTA5 or red dead 2 are similar weird shooting, so bad people go for aim assist...
1 milimeter input to 5 is same speed, 7 and to the edge is max. Leaving you with no accuracy to speed balance. That is why you better play it with mouse if you want accuracy and no aim assist.
Victrix BFG, or this controller the Nacon
thanks to both of you :) I'll definitely keep that in mind while buying a new controller! I must say that the nacon is extremely tempting now since I'm curious about the difference in feeling between standard sticks and HE sticks, if they offer so much precision
Would you recommend if I'm able to get for $100?
hi, is the travel of the 46 degree analogues greater than that of the dualsense?
are you doing a scuf envision pro review?
I have the Nacon Revolution Unlimited Pro for PS4 for a few years now, and with not that much use, one of the thumb stick snap-ins snapped. Luckily there was others included. Also one of the triggers have this annoying and loud scratching and squeeky noise thats driving me crazy. I highly prefer my PS5 Aim Controller, even though that controller had to have a thumb stick base replaced as it cracked. Never any issues with other controllers, and I own 20-25 in total that still works from different consoles.
Mine felt on the ground, lost the thumbgrip, step on it, broke the litle clip of one side, put it back in and was able to use it no problems even it was easier to take off but don't fall upside down
I had similar problem with trigger on my Steam Deck. I just needed to upen it up and adjust the spring, never had any problems again
I guess it's become a new trend for third party controllers to completely remove the vibration motors under the name of "Pro Gamer" or "Competitive" and still have exaggerated prices. I bought the Razer Wolverine V2 Pro to use in CoD and especially fighting games on my PS5, and I was extremely pleased with its D-Pad. On the other hand, having 6 extra buttons (classic Razer) is a feature that I really like (like Wolverine Ultimate for Xbox), especially for FPS games. However, despite the updates of this device, there is a serious Dead Zone problem, and although this is not a problem in fighting games, but it is a real problem while playing FPS games.
I was thinking of buying this device from Nacon a while ago, but I couldn't wait and bought the Dualsense Edge. As I can see from the review, I didn't make a very wrong decision (especially regarding the D-Pad). Edge is definitely a much better choice for Mortal Kombat 1 as a fighting game right now, the D-Pad feels a little different compared to the regular Dualsense and that's definitely a nice thing. On the other hand, in fighting games that do not have a "Motion Move" system (like MK1), the Pivot D-Pad of the Wolverine V2 Pro can give a very bad experience... The only thing that makes me think about the Edge is that it could have at least 4 extra buttons, but it still gets used to it... I played MW3 with Edge throughout the beta period, and it definitely gives great performance with its minor tweaks. Of course, Haptic Feedback and Adaptive Trigger features are undoubtedly among the biggest advantages of the device.
As a result, it seems that the situation of these third-party companies releasing devices that are either of poor quality (like Victrix) or have many features trimmed, even if they are "licensed", will continue for a while. Even though I used to use Series X, I still miss my Elite Series 2 in some aspects... Also thanks for the review.
Quality comment, thank you very much for sharing
If I understand it correctly it's Sony's fault that we don't have those "extra" features, they just don't allow/don't provide technology to use it in the 3rd party controllers. That explains why 5 Pro has rumble in ps4/pc mode, but doesn't have it in ps5 mode. As a PC gamer I don't mind not having rumble in ps5 mode, I will use ps4 mode instead but I see why people are upset about it
There may actually be many reasons behind this situation. Licensing problems are of course one of them, but using ordinary (non-haptic) vibration is not included in this. There are already a few models on the market with normal vibration features. Of course, it would be wrong to expect features such as Adaptive Triggers or Haptic on 3rd party devices. Another reason for this situation is the problem of devices with low material quality, such as Victrix Pro BFG; money paid for licences. As far as I know, Sony charges a high fee for licensing, and such brands make deductions from various things in order not to impose these prices on users. In fact, this is a very reasonable situation. Well, of course it would be nice to see all the features in such "Pro" devices, but unfortunately it does not happen and there seems to be nothing much to do about it.
@@dazelya It has rumble though, it just doesn't work in ps5 mode. I assume that's because you'd have to translate the "pro" haptic feedback to rumble, perhaps it's different in some way
What is the zombie game you keep showing?