Are Ohlins Shocks on a Jeep as Good as They Look?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- While Ohlins has been an industry leader in dampening technology for motocross, rally racing, open wheel racing, mountain bikes, high performance vehicles of all makes and models and for over 40 years, they are new to the Jeep market and the question of how well their highly sought after gold shocks will perform on them, is a legitimate one. In this video, you'll get to see and hear what Cindy and I have found after two weeks of testing them both on road and off.
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That zip tie trick is an old motorcycle fork tube trick. Oddly enough from ohlins
That's awesome and it figures it'd be one from Ohlins 👍
Yep. You can't see the bumps on the bike fork, so that's the only way to tell if you're compressing too much. Simple and highly effective gauge.
Another great review from this guy. Gets into the specific technical, functional and practical side of builds. Was eying these shocks for my gladiator rubicon which would run along a clayton offroad lift.
Humbled that you would say as much and glad to hear you found our review to be helpful. Good luck to you on your build.
Bought these for my 392 Clayton Performance Coil Pkg. The Ohlins arrive next week.
Your content is gold. Perfect balance between technical/theoretical and practical. These shocks are definite contenders for my Jeep which drives way to soft for the amount of power under the hood. Thank you again.
We really do appreciate you saying as much, thank you.
HI EDDIE 👋
THANK YOU FOR GOING OVER ALL THIS & SHOWING ME / US WHAT YOU DID . AFTER CHANGING THE BUMP STOPS OUT DEFINITELY LOOKED LIKE A SMOOTHER RIDE FROM THE JEEP WAS REACTING ON VIDEO ! HAS A NICE SOUND TO HER TOO ! BE SAFE ! HAVE FUN ! ENJOYED 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨 GOD BLESS YOU BOTH ALWAYS ON YOUR ADVENTURES 🙏 THANK YOU 🙏
Happy to hear you enjoyed the video 😎
Not surprised Ohlins has always built a quality product . Great video
Glad you enjoyed it 😎
Thanks for the great video as always. And for clearing up that pricing. I looked these up after your last video and was not aware the price was for all 4. Glad to know I wasn’t the only one.
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video and that we were able to clear things up for you and a few others 😎
Can you tell Ohlins to list their collapsed and extended lengths?
Why not send them an email and ask them to give it to you?
Eddie I just want to thank you for this thorough testing video. Your last video I mentioned that I didnt like the way you have to adjust these. Especially at the price point. After seeing you adjust them in this video the Adjustments doesn't seem so for the lack of a better term as cheesy as I once thought. After I get my UD 60's installed I may have to check these struts out. My Wife injured her back in college rowing in CREW, and the trails can cause her pain. Having the ability to to go super soft would help her enjoy our adventures here in the PNW more.
I have to say, these shocks really do a nice job of softening things out. More than any other bolt on shock I have tested. If you do get them, I hope they help your wife enjoy the ride better.
Now that you’ve spent some time with them, how do they compare to Fox, Rancho and Falcon? Still love them?
Yes, I still love them and really, there's no comparison to the shocks you've mentioned or at least, not in an equal size. Of course, this is just my opinion.
Those look very stable, and no nose dive. They look like they would handle just like their motorcycle counter parts. Definitely the Gold standard for shocks. Like to see what they have planned in the future. I am definitely going to be looking at them in the future.
They really are very stable and smooth.
Great job describing the differences yet staying neutral! Very informative and should help people make wiser decisions!
Happy to hear you found our video to be informative and neutral.
If i were to have a 392, i guess i would get a set of these Ohlins too, as i could imagine myself speeding on the highway..
LOL - it's impossible not to.
And in typical Öhlins way, they just perform. Great video, thank you
LOL - yes, they do! Glad you enjoyed the video.
I wonder if a happy medium would work, instead of 10 and 10 or 20 and 20, got 15 and 15. See how that does. It shoul, by theory, be a little softer than the 10s, but not as soft as the 20s.
We're actually in the process of testing various settings now. And yes, you can feel the difference.
Hi Eddie, very nice video. I really enjoyed the content. Looking forward to future videos. Thank you for sharing. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it 😎
Sweden does it again. Proud to be Swedish🇸🇪 There isn't any other country on earth that are 10millions or less that produce the things Sweden does👌
Another great video. Great content, video quality, clear and educational. Always looking forward to your videos.
Happy to hear you enjoyed our video 😎
Well, small world. I just realized that I think we ran into you doing this test a couple weekends ago on the Forestdale Divide. We were up there - a group of 5 motorcyclists and I believe someone from your group offered to anchor the bikes to the winch to pull us up that loose/climb. After y'all continued over toward Blue Lakes, we ended up doing it anyways with a bit of momentum, but with as steep and loose as that climb was, it got sketchy fast on 450# bikes.
Great to see you're enjoying the Ohlins suspension!
Very cool that you were able to get some help from a group you ran into but I'm sorry to say that it wasn't us.
@@wayalife Weird coincidence then - lifted white 392 JL (I admittedly didn't get closer than about 50ft out) was sitting at the top of that steep/loose/gravely climb featured in your video @ 12:28 around 11:30-12 Noon on the 30th - and looking at the snowmelt/remaining pack in the video, it looks like y'all were there probably within a day or two of when we were haha
In any case, good to see you enjoying the scenic value of that area for filming/testing.
Crazy coincidence but I would have been happy to help out if needed :)
Great content and review of the Ohlins shocks, have them on my motorcycle but did not know they do them for jeep gladiator
My question is would this be a good addition to my gladiator Willys and Alu gab camper?
being a euro jeep driver we've known ohlins since a long time and thy do rock you made a point!!!
They looked like they worked very well they wash board roads can be brutal but they soaked the bumps up
Yes, they really smooth out washboards and even do quite well soaking up side by side chop.
where are you guys driving? it's gorgeous
Most of what you see in this video was filmed in Northern Nevada and up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains.
Hey Eddie, you n Cindy continue to put out some of the best videos! My only question for you for this video would be this: Up here in the PNW, Eastern Oregon has deserts fairly similar to Nevada, maybe not quite as hot, but not far off during the summer😅 but in Western Oregon mud and snow is where the fun is... Any chance you would know of a muddy area you could come up with a muddy test and post it?
A few months back and that would not have been a problem. Right now, I don't think there's any mud to be found LOL
@@wayalife Ah bummer! Well, Hey, you're in luck! It's raining up here in Astoria today, How fast can you get up here? 😂
As the Bellamy Brothers sang -- Do they love as good as they look ?
Great vid. Pretty in depth review of a system that is rarely talked about.
Glad you enjoyed it :)
another Excellent video. I was going to ask a few questions, but didn't need to, you answered them all👍
LOL - awesome! Glad you enjoyed our video and happy to hear we were able to answer all your questions 😎
Put Ohlins on my bikes (both motorcycle and mountain bikes). My most favorite shocks I’ve ever used. Didn’t know they made them for jeeps. May have to pick some up!
I think you would like them just as much on your Jeep!
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Ohlins are unmatched in the speed performance space. The ability to fine tune based on the application is where the money is. I have them on my Ducati and handle extreme situations without fail. That being said, most folks will never reach that level of performance requirement. They do look good though!
Oh yeah, Ohlins aren't for everyone but they are amazing for the people who would use them hard.
Those look awesome
Currently running aev bilsteins on my JT
Would love to try some ohlins in the future
Question
What rear sway bar links do you got ?
The rear links are EVO adjustable ones.
Aloha Eddie. This is a cool video testing for your Ohlin Shocks as it took the toughest terrain in Southern Nevada. Awesome video 📸.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sooooo are you donating your take offs ,shocks??? Hehe 😜
Thank you for the video Eddie , did ya try the in between setting of 15 ? And how did that go? Or did ya settle at the original 10 setting ? 👍
At the moment, we're running them at 10 compression and 20 rebound but may have to try 15 next.
Great content! Love to watch and learn from your step by step videos. Great trails and where's that lake located that you show on your videos?
Glad to hear you enjoy it. The lake is up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains near Tahoe.
Excellent video. All of my questions I had at the beginning of the video, you answered at the end. Well done!!
Awesome! So glad to hear you enjoyed the video and that we were able to answer your questions 😎
In those more high speed bits of the video you can absolutely tell they are soaking things up. Looks like they perform dam good!!!
At the 10 clicks, yes, they perform exceptionally well at higher speeds and rough terrain.
Hello from st Petersburg
Hey there! Good to have you here :)
Eddie, great video. I like all the detail you put into the video showing the install of the shocks, bumpstop and even tuning the shocks. Then testing the Jeep and showing how everything performs. Your camera girl is amazing too.
Thank you. We appreciate it.
I’m curious, when filming your videos how are you doing it?
Awesome video as always! One question with our 392 which unit did you order? JEV MU00 or JEV MU10? TYIA
Ohlins only comes in 2 sizes, one for 2"-3" of lift and 3"-5" of lift. I installed a 4.5" lift and run the later to match it.
Great Video! one of my top 10 channels...you all rock!
Glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you saying as much.
Thank you for your videos and helpful information. You are awesome.
We're so happy to hear you enjoy our videos and the information we provide 😎
Woohoo 🙌🙌 shop time..yes!!😎
Ohlins is the gold standard in high end motorcycle shocks/forks. I have always used an ohlins stabilizer on my bikes. Couldn’t afford the ohlins forks though. 😢
How would you compare the Ohlins with Falcons SP2 3.3 which also considered to be on the stiff side?
First off, I would not consider Ohlins to be "stiff" but rather, responsive. There is a difference. Also, Ohlins allows you to independently adjust rebound and on a fine scale. This is critical as most shocks do not and this is where a really nice ride can be dialed in. To the best of my knowledge, the Flacons do not offer this.
AMAZING. ..👍❤
Glad you like what you see 😎
I raced Motocross for years back through the 80's into the early 90's.
Amatuer, it was our weekend hobby. I had an Ohlins rear shock on my 1990 Honda CR 250R. It costed me my left nut but that probably was the best suspension that I ever had on a MX bike. Tuned and valved, along with my forks by Noleen suspension in So Cal. Shocks built for
racing.
is the evo long arm kit and king coil overs comparable? how well does that kit do on power line roads at Higher speeds ??
EVO long arms and coilovers will out perform these shocks but then, they cost a lot more money too.
Great review. Enjoy your realistic and honest approach.
We really appreciate you saying as much and happy to hear you enjoyed our review. Thank you.
Awesome video and review , now looking for a set for my Gladiator !!
Could you purchase these shocks for a stock set up then add the lift kit/springs etc later? Curious Content is top notch really enjoy all the work you put into this channel
No, you cannot. In fact, Ohlins doesn't even make these shocks for a stock application. Glad you enjoy our videos :)
Thanks for pointing out the bump stop piece. I have a diesel and I believe that’s what May have caused my upper control arms to bend like a banana! Luckily that’s all that that bent/ broke. Jeep unfortunately didn’t warrant the replacement:( we went aftermarket.
Greetings Wayalife 👋👋Video idea: Front and rear brake job on the Gladiator. Thank you
Metal cloak has some nice bump stops.
Um, okay. Fortunately, they're not needed with shocks like this 👍
Away, a great 👍 video. Thanks 👍 😊
Glad you enjoyed it
Another fun& informative video! Thanks!
Happy to hear you found our video to be fun and informative 😎
I haven’t been able to find much on this- and it could just be poor search skills…..
the front cv axles on the 392…. How do these compare to standard rubicon u-joint axles?? Do you know?
Thanks!
So far, we've been seeing them hold up well. The bigger problem is the transfer case. The clutch packs in them tend to go bad.
@@wayalife darn man… does this mean Atlas 😎
Thanks for the reply!
Have you figured out why Jeep made the front bumpstop towers are 2" longer in the 392 than in the 3.6v6 for example? Surely there must be a valid reason to limit the up-travel, elsewhere than to protect the shock absorber (I thought it had to do with the different engine size, hence potential proximity with axle or other moving parts). By reducing the spacers, you are sort of disregarding what Jeep has designed right?
Jeep increased the length of the bump stops to help keep the upper control arm from hitting the 392 engine. I got this straight from my engineer friend at Jeep.
With an EVO upper control arm that has a bend in it, I was able to cut my 392 bumpstops down to regular JL length to get the normal uptravel back and clear the motor mount.
Curious to know your thoughts on the dual clutch transfer case on the 392, which I believe the same as the Rubicon 4Xe and I heard they’re prone to failure.
What you've heard is true or at least, if you play hard on the rocks. For daily driving and for general exploring, they're fine.
Hey Eddie,
Great video, as always. Could those work on a stock height JL Rubi with a 2.0L?
The ones we installed on our 392 were made for 3.5"-5" of lift but it is my understanding that they do offer a set for 2"-3" of lift as well. Needless to say, you would need at least a coil spacer lift to run a set.
Great review! I'm running a set of Öhlins on my Ranger (international model). Enjoy dialing them in, and thanks for the note about checking travel.
Glad you liked our review and that's awesome you're running a set on your Ranger.
Oh, one question@@wayalife. Are your adjusters all that audibly "clicky" like at 13:40? I'm questioning mine now - the clicks can be felt but they're not as positive as what I'm seeing in your video, and I find myself increasing the damping over the recommended road settings. Might need a service maybe.
@@richardbarrington4314 Yeah, you can definitely hear and feel the clicks and just so that we're on the same page, going full clock wise will firm things up and counter clockwise will soften things up.
@@wayalife Cheers. Yep, turning them in (clockwise) increases damping, and out (counter clockwise) decreases it. Still works great, I'm just getting fussy!
Without a doubt, this is the best channel on TH-cam. Regarding Öhlins, they make great shocks. I've used their products on my Harley for years. However, they are expensive compared to other options in the market. They look great and I'm sure they feel great too. But I can't justify paying more than $4,000 for these shocks.
Not sure where you get "paying more than $4000" from. The price they have listed is for ALL FOUR shocks.
I really enjoy the clarity in this video.
Happy to hear we were able to present our video well for you 😎
Most Offroad content follows the “go big or go home” mantra. I’ve enjoyed the measured approach. While I feel I already have a pretty good grasp on the engineering and execution of most aftermarket kit, I always appreciate the “extra” that comes from your videos, as well as the direct and concise information given. I’m sure your content has helped many new to off-roading people better understand why they should or should not perform that next modification.
We really appreciate you saying as much and really do hope we're able to help others out with our information.
they do look good
They really do. Fortunately, they really do perform too 👍
@@wayalife perfect match for the 392 color scheme
Hi, Eddie! Great video as always.
Hey Phil, long time no see!! Hope you're doing well and thanks 😎
I have this same problem on my '23 Gladiator Mojave with the AEV 2" lift. At high speeds its fine, but the low speeds its always banging the bump stops.
To be clear, there is no problem with these shocks.
I think if ohlins made a front stabilizer/ steering dampner for our jeeps, a lot of us would buy it. I loved their stabilizers on bikes, they were very simple to use and just performed flawlessly.
While I'm sure a lot of people would, I can honestly say that the OE stabilizer is what I would still run even if they did. The last thing I'd want is a pressurized steering stabilizer pushing my steering all the time. But then, that's just me and based on my personal experience.
I building an eco diesel gladiator I bought the evo kit with the overland brackets it a 2023 rubicon . I’m going to overland should I start with the soft or performance. I love your videos thanks.
For these shocks, I would recommend starting with the 10 clicks or at least, up front anyway and mainly because of the weight of the engine. I think you will like it there and you can always soften things up as desired. Glad to hear you enjoy our videos :)
Great review and info Eddie, I’ve never owned on a Jeep but had Ohlins on my motorbike 😅 … I want to know how thee compare to the terraflex equivalents that have the adjustable ride settings? Anyone have experience and like to comment?
I was considering those for my Jeep upgrades but these Ohlins sound good too.
I assume you're referring to the Falcon shocks? If so, I'm not a big Teraflex fan and have no desire to test them out. That said, I think the equivalent shock they offer does not provide the same level of adjustment that these Ohlins offers especially when it comes to rebound and to me, that is important.
Sir …When will your 392 go to the Rubicon Trail?
Hard to say. We have other Jeeps that can do it better and we kind of want to keep our 392 nice. But, you never know.
@@wayalife I understand that your 392 has not yet been equipped with a winch, so it would be dangerous to venture forward on the Rubicon Trail.
Eddie, which lugnuts did you use with your KMC Grenade Crawls? Thanks in advance.
These amzn.to/3YsqwVw. Makes it a lot easier to work with and with a standard 19mm or 3/4" socket.
With the Rancho springs did you use the rancho lower coil pad or keep the stock ones? I am having an issue with the rancho ones causing a inward lean towards the frame and it contacts the frame under compression.
I did and I do see a bit of what you're describing but it doesn't make contact with the frame under compression. It does catch the lip of our 392 longer coil tower though and it is annoying. Problems of having a soft comfortable coil. I should note, the coils we have are probably different than what you have as they are model specific. Either way, I may try reinstalling the factory pads just to see if that helps.
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Glad you enjoyed the video :)
Question re shock adjustments. When do you adjust the rebound v the compression options… Steve 🇦🇺
That's a tough one and it really depends on the weight of your Jeep, front to back even and the type of terrain you tend to drive on and how fast. More rebound is nice to help control braking and accelerating and will do a great job to smooth out your ride but too much can cause packing if you're driving fast over really rough terrain like whoops. More compression will help to eat up big bumps but too much will cause you to feel everything on the road. Ride quality is 100% subjective and a shock like this will allow you to dial in what you're wanting.
How much is your 392 lift
About 4.5" of lift
Hello! I want to ask a question not quite on the topic, but I already asked this question on the Jeep Forum and no one answered me. I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL Unlimited Rubicon with 3.5" lift and 37" wheels. I have already changed the front axle shafts to RCV, and now I want to change the rear axle shafts to reinforced ones. RCV is expensive for me and I want to change to Nitro or Revolution. Please advise me what would be best for my Jeep. What is your opinion on these brands? I really hope for your answer. Thank you.
You asked this question on the WAYALIFE forum? I did a quick check and saw no thread of this nature. What is your user name there?
My name is Gennadiy. I don't have access to WAYALIFE forum. @@wayalife
I did a search for Gennadiy and could not find a user with that name.
That said and since money is an issue, I would save your money and replace your shafts ONLY if they need to be replaced. You should be good to go with factory shafts and 37's. I've run mine for years that way. Otherwise, Revolution is a good company.
Thank you so mach. @@wayalife
It's always so nice taking apart stuff when its all
brand New!!! Haha!
LOL - this Jeep is over a year old now but like all my Jeeps, I make sure to keep it clean and garaged and so yes, it always has a new feel to it 😁
Jeep looks awesome! What's ur opinion on hydraulic bump stops?? Worth it for higher speeds?
Well, these Ohlins comes with them built inside but sure, they would help with big hits at higher speeds. We run air bumps on our JT and JK.
Awesome!!! channel
Glad you enjoy it!
What do you think about the Falcon shocks 2.1 adjustable ones
They do not have independent adjustment for rebound the way these Ohlins have. That is where the biggest difference will be felt and what make these shocks so much better.
@@wayalife so you don't like the two adjustments even though you have to deal with I'm doing them to adjust them
@@wayalifethe problem is they always Jack the price up crazy on these aftermarket shocks just because they're different 33 inch tires all-terrain I don't see a need to spend 300-plus per shot
Great video review. 😎😊👍🏻
Thank you, we're happy to hear it was something you enjoyed 😎
How would Ohlins shocks compare to Fox 3" ? Or Fox 2.5"?
These Ohlins would be a closer match to a Fox 2.5 and at that, I personally feel that these Ohlins do a better job of soaking up the bumps and smoothing things out and I like that they come with rebound adjustment as well. Of course, as I say in the video, ride quality is 100% subjective and this is just my opinion.
Looks fun! Love that Jeep!
LOL - was a ton of fun and glad you enjoyed seeing it. Hope you and Ray are doing well :)
How would you compare the ohlins to a SDI e-click system?
The SDI is cool in that you can make adjustments on the fly but the Ohlins shock is superior in it's ability to dampen.
Great video Eddie!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it 😎
Just super sick 🙌🏻
Glad you like it!
Have you ever tried the speed bump bump stop? Wondering if they’re any good
I can't say that I have and with a shock like this, there is no need for something like it being that there is a much better internal hydraulic bump stop built right into them.
Can you use these Ohlins on a stock 2-door Rubicon?
The shortest shock they make is for a 2" lift.
good video , thanks
So happy to hear you enjoyed it 😎
Nice shot 🤞
Thank you, glad you liked it
Use that bland on banshee atv 20 year
I can’t seem to get my jk to stop overheating. Needle reaches close to second line past the center line *200 mark. I replaced water pump thermostat and temp sensor
Have you checked to see if maybe there's a build up of debris in between your AC cooler and radiator?
Got done checking it , clean and clear. I will flush completely and fill this weekend. Possible air pockets in the system. Thanks for your input
JKS offers 2.5 inch bump stops.
JKS1149
Ask me how I know. 🤣
LOL - funny you should say, I ordered a set of JKS adjustable bump stops.
@@wayalife These are already installed, but the provided hardware doesn't fit for 2.5". You have to trim the longer bolts or use the correct length like I did.
do you typically go with new shocks on your jeeps or have you sent them in for service/rebuilding? I am debating the down time for rebuilding vs buying replacements.
The Kings on Moby got rebuilt, and there's a video about it. It depends on the initial price of the shock I would say
@stevensyrko7109 For a shock like this, you definitely want to have it rebuilt. And, the biggest benefit of this versus something like a coilover, is that you can run a cheaper shock like a Rancho while you're having them serviced, especially if you have to ship them to a service center. With coilovers, your Jeep will just be sitting on a rack or jack stands until they're done.
These sound like they would be perfect with my Mohave JT for bombing through the desert. I've been thinking about the Bilstein 8100's, since I was told they would be good for up to 50-60mph in the NM desert. Since watching your video, I'm having trouble deciding since I want to go faster than that.. 😁
The 8100's are bigger shocks and depending on what your idea of bombing is, they may still be the better option.
And they have the double external bypass option.
12:01 Just glorious!
LOL - glad you enjoyed what you see 😎
great hability and explined! howdy... how is it set up for this great engine sound?
Actually, you're just hearing the stock 392 exhaust.
@@wayalife wwow, thaks! that's why it sounds powerful. It is a shame that we don't have this version in México City. Regards!
Very cool to know, but are they as good as Fox reservoir? I know they’re pretty old news by now.
Fox has a lot of different options and I suppose it would depend on which one you were referring to. If the 2.5 as they'd be the closest match to these Ohlins, I'd have to say these are better if only because you can adjust rebound as well but overall, I'd have to say they're better too. Of course, that's just my opinion.
@@wayalife thanks always appreciate your input.
Very nice job
Thank you
Looks like some Hwy 395 country!
Similar but none of this was off the 395.
Jeep should have put in a better shock.
Not necessarily. The stock Fox shocks aren't horrible, these are just better.
What would your be your pick for shock upgrade with stock height rubicon coils, cheap, mid, expensive
That's a tough one. On the cheap side, Rancho RS7MT for sure, mid, probably Fox but expensive, there just aren't too many really good high end options available for stock.
@@wayalife thanks much! How’s Pippi?
@@litoornelas6409 Pippi is great and we're dying to get back on projects with her.
Looking 👍
Thanks 👍