The only thing I love this channel is how is making Mike Mentzer a comeback in this 2022. Even dead and underrated in his days, now he is inspiring people today and the HIT is now more known
Mike really had great humor. Master of sarcasm, cynicism, and using deadpan comedy. Feel like he could’ve been a great comedy writer for the right show
😂😂😂 these two busting balls are all I never knew I needed today 😂 goddamn Mike you beautiful s.o.b. why'd you have to die so soon???!!!! Haley's comets damn sure are special. But they damn sure don't come around often 😢
Boyer coe was actually making really good process he just was in denial about it and hated only doing short workouts, you could tell by his attitude in the full vids he wasn't enjoying himself.
Did Mike Mentzer ever mention in tapes or videos like these how he thought beginners should train, whether they should start out with a split and intensity shown here or something different?
Yes, in his early books and articles, he recommended that absolute beginners do a whole body workout on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Just taking their sets close to failure to get their bodies accustomed to the rigours of resistance training. Once they increase their intensity, then adjustments could be made to the workouts in terms of reducing their volume and perhaps their frequency.
John, your own opinion, do you think Mike lost it a bit in the end of his time? Mike is literally my biggest life inspiration but I question his thoughts on training at the end. I’m a pretty good bodybuilder I can still learn a lot tho but his idea on training at the end seems so odd to me.
Hey Gunz. I'm actually perhaps one of the few that doesn't think Mike's training ideas were off base at the end of his life. In fact, when we conducted a fat loss study at our facility (Nautilus North) some years back, we used a sophisticated body composition testing machine. Long story short; we found that those who performed two sets once a week (no warm up sets) gained more muscle and lost more fat (simultaneously while in a negative calorie balance) than those who did six sets once a week, four sets once a week and three sets once a week. You mention that you are a pretty good bodybuilder, so you probably have good genetics and can successfully tolerate more training in terms of volume and frequency than most, but, as Mike said, recovery ability and the ability to tolerate a high-intensity training stress varies with individuals across a broad continuum. I think the key is finding out where you fit in on the continuum. Contrary to a lot of the straw man arguments made against Mike's beliefs (such as EVERYONE should only train once a week, or EVERYONE should only do two sets per workout), Mike really dialled the training requirements into the individual's tolerance on a per client basis. When he wrote about this, he did so in broad strokes, which allowed people to tweeze out a comment for an article pertaining to the recovery needs of a certain class of individual trainees and hold it up as a general prescription for everybody -- which was not how Mike viewed it.
Mike told me Boyer got stronger, lost a lot of fat and gained muscle and he supervised his workouts. Boyer was off juice, which was why he was down in size considerably when he started on this six month workout. He actually did pretty good, but you will never approximate the effects of anabolics with any type of workout.
Mike said he started using them as an ergogenic aid in 1979, primarily when he was in training and writing articles, etc. So, it's possible he used them during this time. The problem arose when he used them during an intense emotional crisis in 1986-ish. The combination resulted in acute episodes of psychosis. Prior to this (such as when these videos were shot), there evidently wasn't a problem.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE yes, I no he was taking them in 79/80 and in 85 when was writing for that workout magazine so he could hit deadlines.and this was in 83 so I’m thinking 🤔 he wouldn’t have just stopped after the 80 Olympia as I’ve heard Amphetamines are pretty addictive. Do you no if he was on anti depressants ? As that may be why he was so calm? Or was that Mikes nature? Did he go into a depression after the 80 Olympia? I no before he died he was Anti depressants, or so I’ve read. Just find Mike a very interesting character and one of my hero’s.
@@Lonewolf__666 I don’t believe he was on any anti-depressants when this video was shot. As to drug use, recreational and otherwise, I didn’t really know him well in 1983, so I really can’t comment.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE cheers for that John. And thanks again for keeping Mikes memories alive.. what’s REAL Carnt die. And Mike sure was real and not Fake.
We all know that Boyer Coe used volume as well as intensity. One set is ridiculous. At some point you have to take off the training wheels and increase your volume. Nice video 👍. Mike Mentzer was a likeable guy. The truth is somewhere in the middle. You need to cycle your volume and effort.
I extremely intense set is not ridiculous! What's ridiculous is people like you that have been brainwashed by the Muscle magazines and the supplement companies selling you the pre workout supplement garbage so you can spend hours in the gym doing 5,6,and 7 sets for absolutely no logical reason...
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE No problem my brother from another mother. We are all still learning and growing and it's great to share our experiences and learn eachother. Please keep up the good work.
The only thing I love this channel is how is making Mike Mentzer a comeback in this 2022. Even dead and underrated in his days, now he is inspiring people today and the HIT is now more known
This is pure gold..what a tragedy that Mike mentzer died so young... absolute diamond...
As a fully-fledged Brit, I can confirm that this is top-notch sarcasm. 👌
Haha! Thank you for that confirmation, Black Phoenix!
I always lived too far away but I would have loved to have been trained by Mike Mentzer for at least a couple of weeks.
Thanks for your post.
He had a beautiful smile
Thank You John Great memories
You’re welcome, Charles.
John, your videos consistently give me "machine envy".
Damn, I miss some things about the world of 39 years ago. Exercise realm included...
This was awesome. Some great gym banter!
Yeah, it's pretty funny actually.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE I had always figured he had a very dry but quick wit to him. Thanks for sharing this.
They really did love each others company!
John Little thanks for sharing these with us!
Love every video i see about mike
Arnold is maybe the worldwide most known bodybuilder But the most influential is unarguably Mike .
Thanks for your post, Gi Karadi.
And its only going to grow thanks largely to John Little. And this amazing channel.
Mike really had great humor. Master of sarcasm, cynicism, and using deadpan comedy. Feel like he could’ve been a great comedy writer for the right show
Hi lovesgibson. Yes, he had a great sense of humour. Thanks for your post.
True, he would have been a great youtuber ;-)
He is like the walter white of the bodybuilding world
This is gold.
Mike. Polite, Gifted the thinking man’s bodybuilder.
For a hard gainer,Mike's routine is fantastic
Fun and weird to see Mike train Boyer
Competing against each other but working together, sure wouldn't see that now a days.
Very Cool
Very true, Bobby!
Well Mike was retired by this time. After that farce in 1980 when he should have won.
Mike Mentzer is the father of Gigachad
Change my mind
Where do all these tapes come from, I want to buy them
This is Gold. I love intelligent wity humour
"Okay Boyer Coe"
Awesome videos!!!!
😂😂😂 these two busting balls are all I never knew I needed today 😂 goddamn Mike you beautiful s.o.b. why'd you have to die so soon???!!!! Haley's comets damn sure are special. But they damn sure don't come around often 😢
that whole gnat conversation cracks me up. "once that gnat hits your bloodstream..." 😁
Has these been sent to Boyer? I’m sure he would have some fond memories of these nautilus days and a few stories
Boyer still looks great. Many respect to him
Mike was soooo intelligent!
Real bodybuilders,
Great stuff john as always cheers!
Thanks, chestnutsev7!
high intelect, high humor 💯
Just to think, Mike would be a full-time personal trainer years later!
Yeah, this was almost the prototype
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE I would love to hear him talk about the shit on stage nowadays... the bodies are so horrible
@@charlesbukowski9836 Yeah, That would be interesting indeed.
Shit personal- trainer!
Love the old school equipment
Don't over-train your calves or they may turn into cows. -- Mike Mentzer
John Little is on the road to become Johnny the Great...!
Haha! Not sure about that, Angelo.
Boyer Coe: I think one of these days I'm going to change my name just so you stop saying that.
Once that gnat hits your bloodstream 💀💀💀
John, any chance you would ever upload entire sessions/episodes of the various nautilus training videos?
Boyer seems to be off the some-some
Boyer coe was actually making really good process he just was in denial about it and hated only doing short workouts, you could tell by his attitude in the full vids he wasn't enjoying himself.
Boyer had elite genetics remember and wad on roids. For the average trainer this is the only way to really progress.
Did Mike Mentzer ever mention in tapes or videos like these how he thought beginners should train, whether they should start out with a split and intensity shown here or something different?
Yes, in his early books and articles, he recommended that absolute beginners do a whole body workout on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Just taking their sets close to failure to get their bodies accustomed to the rigours of resistance training. Once they increase their intensity, then adjustments could be made to the workouts in terms of reducing their volume and perhaps their frequency.
Thw first week all day whole body workout 1-set.
if failure equals success then consider me successful
John, your own opinion, do you think Mike lost it a bit in the end of his time? Mike is literally my biggest life inspiration but I question his thoughts on training at the end. I’m a pretty good bodybuilder I can still learn a lot tho but his idea on training at the end seems so odd to me.
Hey Gunz. I'm actually perhaps one of the few that doesn't think Mike's training ideas were off base at the end of his life. In fact, when we conducted a fat loss study at our facility (Nautilus North) some years back, we used a sophisticated body composition testing machine. Long story short; we found that those who performed two sets once a week (no warm up sets) gained more muscle and lost more fat (simultaneously while in a negative calorie balance) than those who did six sets once a week, four sets once a week and three sets once a week. You mention that you are a pretty good bodybuilder, so you probably have good genetics and can successfully tolerate more training in terms of volume and frequency than most, but, as Mike said, recovery ability and the ability to tolerate a high-intensity training stress varies with individuals across a broad continuum. I think the key is finding out where you fit in on the continuum. Contrary to a lot of the straw man arguments made against Mike's beliefs (such as EVERYONE should only train once a week, or EVERYONE should only do two sets per workout), Mike really dialled the training requirements into the individual's tolerance on a per client basis. When he wrote about this, he did so in broad strokes, which allowed people to tweeze out a comment for an article pertaining to the recovery needs of a certain class of individual trainees and hold it up as a general prescription for everybody -- which was not how Mike viewed it.
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Is there a reason why you did not show Boyer Coe actually performing the exercises?
Yes. Because the video was about Boyer and Mike joking around during the workouts, not about the workouts themselves.
Didn't Boyer say he got weaker and smaller training this way? Maybe he was also off the gear
Mike told me Boyer got stronger, lost a lot of fat and gained muscle and he supervised his workouts. Boyer was off juice, which was why he was down in size considerably when he started on this six month workout. He actually did pretty good, but you will never approximate the effects of anabolics with any type of workout.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE I wasn't trolling it was a legitimate question, and thanks for answering.
@@JGD185 Hi James, I didn't take your question for trolling at all. Thanks for your post.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGEyou knew mike mentzer personally? how did you know him?
Mike has more of a pump just talking
Was Mike still using Amphetamines at this time John? I say this as he seems very calm. Just interested, not trying to knock Mike.
Mike said he started using them as an ergogenic aid in 1979, primarily when he was in training and writing articles, etc. So, it's possible he used them during this time. The problem arose when he used them during an intense emotional crisis in 1986-ish. The combination resulted in acute episodes of psychosis. Prior to this (such as when these videos were shot), there evidently wasn't a problem.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE yes, I no he was taking them in 79/80 and in 85 when was writing for that workout magazine so he could hit deadlines.and this was in 83 so I’m thinking 🤔 he wouldn’t have just stopped after the 80 Olympia as I’ve heard Amphetamines are pretty addictive. Do you no if he was on anti depressants ? As that may be why he was so calm? Or was that Mikes nature? Did he go into a depression after the 80 Olympia? I no before he died he was Anti depressants, or so I’ve read. Just find Mike a very interesting character and one of my hero’s.
@@Lonewolf__666 I don’t believe he was on any anti-depressants when this video was shot. As to drug use, recreational and otherwise, I didn’t really know him well in 1983, so I really can’t comment.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE cheers for that John. And thanks again for keeping Mikes memories alive.. what’s REAL Carnt die. And Mike sure was real and not Fake.
We all know that Boyer Coe used volume as well as intensity.
One set is ridiculous.
At some point you have to take off the training wheels and increase your volume.
Nice video 👍.
Mike Mentzer was a likeable guy.
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
You need to cycle your volume and effort.
I extremely intense set is not ridiculous! What's ridiculous is people like you that have been brainwashed by the Muscle magazines and the supplement companies selling you the pre workout supplement garbage so you can spend hours in the gym doing 5,6,and 7 sets for absolutely no logical reason...
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Sorry, I did not mean to offend you or anyone else here.
@@colonalklink14 My bad. I only saw the first part of your post. I deleted my previous reply.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE No problem my brother from another mother.
We are all still learning and growing and it's great to share our experiences and learn eachother.
Please keep up the good work.
@@colonalklink14 Thanks for the kind words -- and for your post.