You can witness and observe their discipline and determination not only just by looking at their physique but also their knowledge about the bodybuilding. They are true sportmen and professionals. Today some bodybuilders do not know half of the things these true gentlemen do. The people of the past seem to have been much better at almost anything.
I remember those days. It was like beating your head against a wall trying to convince people of the benefits of weight training. Most people back then weren't convinced and did nothing. It took a new generation for weight training be accepted.
Thank you for posting all of these video Mr. Little, amazing that we have these pieces of bodybuilding lore on the internet for the next generation of athletes, keep up the great work !
I love this early 80s style! The style changes, the substance is eternal. Cheers to you John Little. We all massively appreciate this archiving and sharing of wisdom. Much love from New Zealand.
As someone who read heavy duty 1 and recently got into exercising and weight training. I am grateful and appreciative of this footage. These 3 Greek Gods speaking so logically. I wish I could have met them.
Look at these guys in the off season compared to today. They are obviously off or maybe on a test maintenance dose. Back then we didn't crank it up until maybe 3 months out. Then off and clean out and recover. Great times great physiques. So much better than today. But that was a different time.
When bb'ers were natural inbetween competitions and looked healthy, look at Boyer he could pass for a regular lifter in the gym, muscular for sure but not an unhealthy grotesque monster. Ray holds more mass but is not over the top and not far above his natural limit. Mike had retired from competitive bodybuilding at this point, not sure if he still worked out.
Hi Iron Warrior. I with you 100%. Mike was only working out a little bit at that time, as he was mainly focusing on using the Nautilus lower back machine to rehabilitate his back.
Mike was the smartest man in whatever room he was in Ray was mostly likely the strongest and Boyer was the guy everyone wanted to know and hang out with. Thank you for posting this video my friend
Tre veri campioni anche di umiltà brave persone ,mike e ray mentzer ci guardano dal paradiso dove Arnold non andrà al contrario negli abissi infernali c,e un posto già prenotato .
I never fully appreciated how different Mike and Ray were until I saw your videos; they definitely had similarities in their way thinking, but also certain differences too. Also, gotta love that '80s music. ;oD
Thanks for another little gem John! Have you got like a box full of VHS tapes or something! I find Mike just mesmerising. You could upload a video of him talking about the merits of priming a wall before painting it and I'd watch it! I heard he could be a bit goofy at times too...was this true John?
Hi Al. I wish I had a box full of VHS tapes of Mike. In retrospect, it would have been nice to have video footage of Mike (both in the gym and in conversation) but I wasn't prescient enough. I'm not sure what you mean by "goofy;" if you mean light-hearted, sarcastic, caustic, wry and funny -- then yes, he was all of those things, which made him very enjoyable company.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thanks John. Yeah, he's often serious but with great humour and just heard that he was often jovial away from camera. Thanks again for another great upload.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE do you know any numbers on how strong these brothers used to be? Ive heard on the interview with Ray he squatted 905 for 2 reps, that’s unbelievable!
@@gunz9894 Hi Gunz. I'll have to check. Ray was very strong (as you indicated), but so was Mike. I know he did vertical leg presses with 1,500 pounds leading up to his Mr. America win in 1976 and Preacher curls with 150 pounds on a barbell. His journal entries leading up to the 79 Olympia contain some eye-widening poundages as well, particularly when he was using the Rest-Pause method of training.
@@Illopportunity248 Even though all the 'science based' crew on YT use about 95% of the things Mentzer talked about before they were born. As a Marxist (I assume, since I am academic who taught him for 20 years) you should be wary of the 'it doesn't work' dismissal from people with no experience.
Hey John.. what happen over there at Arthur Jones place when all these guys were there? like somebody stole money or something? or stoled equipment? and Jones booted them all out? I read something about there was a blow out
Nothing was stolen. Jones had brought them on board with promises to get them involved in all facets of his business; video production, seminars, etc. But then Jones’ interests changed. I believe he was then looking to sell his company. He wanted Rae two demonstrate a particularly heavy exercise for some business people that had showing up at the compound, and Ray refused. He was fired shortly there after. Mike left of his own accord about three weeks later. Boyer stayed on, but also left a few months after that I believe.
@@charlesbukowski9836 Apparently he had just completed a very heavy workout and believed that what Arthur was asking him to do could have led to an injury for him. So he refused to do it on that basis. Ray didn’t consider himself to be a performing monkey who would do things at the snap of somebody’s fingers. He certainly respected Arthur, and later opened up two clinics with Arthur’s MedX machines. However, at the time, I believe both brothers had grown frustrated with the lack of direction they had been receiving as against what they were promised when they went to Nautilus.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE oh ok. I was only msking a comment cause i have friend who use excess and they struggle to talk. Thats what they have told me anyways... Im a huge mike and ray mentzer follower. Hit is the best training although ive traded low reps to higher reps failure as ive aged. Once ya pass 40 its hard to stay injury free even w controlled heavy weights. Might be worth making an hit book for 40+
These men were so far ahead of the times for that day they were and still are a wealth of knowledge.
Agreed, Prentice. Thanks for your post.
Three amazingly intelligent Bodybuilders.
You can witness and observe their discipline and determination not only just by looking at their physique but also their knowledge about the bodybuilding. They are true sportmen and professionals. Today some bodybuilders do not know half of the things these true gentlemen do. The people of the past seem to have been much better at almost anything.
I remember those days. It was like beating your head against a wall trying to convince people of the benefits of weight training. Most people back then weren't convinced and did nothing. It took a new generation for weight training be accepted.
I like how they labeled Ray Mentzer as Mike Mentzer. To the viewer they’ll think there’s 2 Mike Mentzers.
Thank you for posting all of these video Mr. Little, amazing that we have these pieces of bodybuilding lore on the internet for the next generation of athletes, keep up the great work !
Thanks, Faizan! I’m glad you like them.
I love this early 80s style! The style changes, the substance is eternal. Cheers to you John Little. We all massively appreciate this archiving and sharing of wisdom.
Much love from New Zealand.
Thanks Jasper! All the best.
Wish I could train with Mike and Ray. Rip.
I'm jus addicted to listen all these interviews,, podcasts or phone call ,, by Mike.. jus love it . What a philosophical and intellectual person.❤
Only seen a short clip of this before. Didn’t realise there was this much more. John, you keep on delivering 😁
Thanks, Lone wolf.
As someone who read heavy duty 1 and recently got into exercising and weight training. I am grateful and appreciative of this footage. These 3 Greek Gods speaking so logically. I wish I could have met them.
It's sad that 18 short years later Mike and Ray were in such poor health and would be gone just 2 days apart.
So good ! These men trained with their brains! The intellect is off the charts here ! So much respect for these thinking men’s bodybuilders👍👍
Legends, pioneering and legendary. Thanks for posting. Amazing Mr Little 💯👍🏽👏🏽
Thanks, sugarray29!
Rays arms look amazing here
Thsnks for share jonh! Amazing amazing... we love Mike so much 🇧🇷
You’re welcome, Leandro.
Look at these guys in the off season compared to today. They are obviously off or maybe on a test maintenance dose. Back then we didn't crank it up until maybe 3 months out. Then off and clean out and recover. Great times great physiques. So much better than today. But that was a different time.
Thanks for the upload, John. Words will never do justice what you and the Mentzer brothers have done and continue to do. Ms Sharkey also. Thankyou.
Thanks for the kind words, Ryan.
Boy these three right there are more articulate and with such a vocabulary as to dwarf all talking heads in the TV or politics put together nowadays.
When bb'ers were natural inbetween competitions and looked healthy, look at Boyer he could pass for a regular lifter in the gym, muscular for sure but not an unhealthy grotesque monster. Ray holds more mass but is not over the top and not far above his natural limit. Mike had retired from competitive bodybuilding at this point, not sure if he still worked out.
Hi Iron Warrior. I with you 100%. Mike was only working out a little bit at that time, as he was mainly focusing on using the Nautilus lower back machine to rehabilitate his back.
Magnificent, real bodybuilders thank you 💪❤️💪
You’re welcome, Philip.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE thank you x
Mike was legend.... he had a grt vision ....
Always a treat to see your videos, John. Many thanks!
Thanks for your post, DoE!
Top Job John - Top marks for digging this out of the archives. Appreciate your endeavours as always!! Thx and Have a lovely weekend.
Thanks for the kind words. Have a great weekend, too.
Mike was the smartest man in whatever room he was in Ray was mostly likely the strongest and Boyer was the guy everyone wanted to know and hang out with.
Thank you for posting this video my friend
Glad you liked it, Josh.
Thank you John as these videos are priceless.
Thanks, Lou. I’m glad you liked them.
This is rare an amazing!!!I've studied Mentzer/Jones for 25 years
That nautilus leg press looks amazing
Thanks John. Another gem for my vast collection.
You're welcome, HDLifter.
I am Loving the disco intro!
Tre veri campioni anche di umiltà brave persone ,mike e ray mentzer ci guardano dal paradiso dove Arnold non andrà al contrario negli abissi infernali c,e un posto già prenotato .
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Thanks for this video John
I just wish it was 1983 again.
It was a cool time period 😎
Still relevant Information till this day 😎😎💪💪
Thanks for your post, Espen.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE You're welcome John, I really enjoy this channel.Have a nice Easter.😊😊💪💪
@@espendahl9719 Thanks, Espen. Happy Easter to you as well.
Thank you John, I like all the videos
You’re welcome, Christian.
Boyer started out strong referring to our worlds "youth syndrome". Its gotten so much worse as time has progressed.
Hi John, great interview like always. Sometimes it needs only a little motivation to take off again. Thank you.
Hi oli. Glad you liked it.
Amazing content. Boyer looking lean and mean 💪🏼
Appreciate uploading this content keep the dream alive!!
Will do, John.
Thank you again John!
You’re welcome. Glad you liked it.
YOUR THE MAN! THANKS
Thank you John....this is great.
You’re welcome.
Ray was a big dude
Great information from Mike, Ray & Boyer.
Great upload, John! I always wanted to see the full interview! 💪💯👍
Thanks, Dboz Expat. Glad you liked it.
Humble, polite, concise and well spoken. Can't stand the fitness cartoon character meatheads all over social media these days.
Funny, the editor labeled both ray and mike as Mike Mentzer
Thank you John!!
You're welcome mahogs9.
Great stuff again John thanks!
Hey Chestnutsev7. You’re welcome. Glad you liked it.
SO cool John! Love these uploads. Always wondered if someone had the full interview. Hope to see more like this in the future!
I'll post what I can access, but there is very little out there I'm afraid.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE That's what I suspected. Thanks for sharing all this rare footage!
@@longevitymuscle you’re very welcome.
I never fully appreciated how different Mike and Ray were until I saw your videos; they definitely had similarities in their way thinking, but also certain differences too.
Also, gotta love that '80s music. ;oD
Hi John another excellent one really enjoyed it
Thanks, James!
Thank you john!
You're welcome, Caroline.
Thanks for another little gem John! Have you got like a box full of VHS tapes or something! I find Mike just mesmerising. You could upload a video of him talking about the merits of priming a wall before painting it and I'd watch it! I heard he could be a bit goofy at times too...was this true John?
Hi Al. I wish I had a box full of VHS tapes of Mike. In retrospect, it would have been nice to have video footage of Mike (both in the gym and in conversation) but I wasn't prescient enough. I'm not sure what you mean by "goofy;" if you mean light-hearted, sarcastic, caustic, wry and funny -- then yes, he was all of those things, which made him very enjoyable company.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Thanks John. Yeah, he's often serious but with great humour and just heard that he was often jovial away from camera. Thanks again for another great upload.
@@alprobert You're welcome, Al. Glad you liked it.
Hi John thanks for the video! Hope you're doing well my friend 😊👋
Hi Ben. All good -- hope you are too.
Good to see John, thank you.
You’re welcome, Mark.
"They look in the mirrors seeing their big bellies...all they see is forks going into their mouths."
Amazing.
I was gonna ask you if you had the full interview John! Only seen the short clip.
By the way Ray seemed like such an interesting guy
HI Gunz. Glad you finally got to see the entire interview.
@@gunz9894 He was.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE do you know any numbers on how strong these brothers used to be? Ive heard on the interview with Ray he squatted 905 for 2 reps, that’s unbelievable!
@@gunz9894 Hi Gunz. I'll have to check. Ray was very strong (as you indicated), but so was Mike. I know he did vertical leg presses with 1,500 pounds leading up to his Mr. America win in 1976 and Preacher curls with 150 pounds on a barbell. His journal entries leading up to the 79 Olympia contain some eye-widening poundages as well, particularly when he was using the Rest-Pause method of training.
another era
I'd go to a nautillus gym if there was 1 around
Only Freddy Mercury could give them Boyz a run for their money with the stache
Is heavy duty just a hype sails pitch or does it work???
It doesn't work
@@Illopportunity248 Even though all the 'science based' crew on YT use about 95% of the things Mentzer talked about before they were born. As a Marxist (I assume, since I am academic who taught him for 20 years) you should be wary of the 'it doesn't work' dismissal from people with no experience.
Do you teach Bodybuilding...? i like to learn HIT...
Hey John.. what happen over there at Arthur Jones place when all these guys were there? like somebody stole money or something? or stoled equipment? and Jones booted them all out? I read something about there was a blow out
Nothing was stolen. Jones had brought them on board with promises to get them involved in all facets of his business; video production, seminars, etc. But then Jones’ interests changed. I believe he was then looking to sell his company. He wanted Rae two demonstrate a particularly heavy exercise for some business people that had showing up at the compound, and Ray refused. He was fired shortly there after. Mike left of his own accord about three weeks later. Boyer stayed on, but also left a few months after that I believe.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE I wonder why Ray refused
@@charlesbukowski9836 Apparently he had just completed a very heavy workout and believed that what Arthur was asking him to do could have led to an injury for him. So he refused to do it on that basis. Ray didn’t consider himself to be a performing monkey who would do things at the snap of somebody’s fingers. He certainly respected Arthur, and later opened up two clinics with Arthur’s MedX machines. However, at the time, I believe both brothers had grown frustrated with the lack of direction they had been receiving as against what they were promised when they went to Nautilus.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE Maybe Arthur just wanted the HD guys around him to prop the sale ...
@@charlesbukowski9836 Perhaps.
I'd tell Ray that I'm more concerned about the bodies of pretty girls than my own body. RIP
2 Mike mentzer 🤔
They all look at or below 200 lbs here. Give them some anabolic steroids.
cue the intro bongo drums ...
Sadly, Eric Sieb is bald, Mike and Ray are dead and Boyer Coe sports a toupee.
Boyer Coe is bald too.
Rays voice is very deteriorated from aas use...strange how mikes isnt very affected. I think excess abuse causes the side effects.
I’m sure it does, but Ray’s voice was always like that. It wasn’t a result of anabolic androgenic steroids.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE oh ok. I was only msking a comment cause i have friend who use excess and they struggle to talk. Thats what they have told me anyways... Im a huge mike and ray mentzer follower. Hit is the best training although ive traded low reps to higher reps failure as ive aged. Once ya pass 40 its hard to stay injury free even w controlled heavy weights. Might be worth making an hit book for 40+
@@ford2010 thanks for your post, Clint.👍
How was boyer cow a bodybuilder. He looked natty
He was off steroids here and was undergoing a long experiment for Arthur Jones.
Boyer wears a rug.
To failure and beyond imagine if mike smoked dmt