Mazatrol Programming Small Concave Radius
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2020
- Mazatrol Programming Small Concave Radius. In this video, I am machining a concave radius using the Copy OUT function instead of BAR OUT. I am machining the feature using a full radius grooving insert.
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Thanks so much Phil I needed some help and you're amazing I was able to program the part no problem and three of them are out the door . I'm very happy you're out there helping us newbies with Mazatrol .
You're welcome! Glad I could help.
thank god for COVID if it werent for COVID phil wouldn't be having so much time on his hands making videos
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In this video I got very well explained the answer to the question I asked you recently. Thank you!
You're welcome.
I'm learning so much!!
nice bit of editing to get rid of the birds nest!!!Nice video tho.trying to learn mazatrol while in lockdown.many thanks
Yeah, that insert doesn't have a chip breaker so I knew it was going to bird nest especially running without coolant.
I love that you do this Phil! I am grateful for you taking your time to help teach. - My only request/suggestion, is to gather how you plan to describe what you're doing and write it down or prepare so you don't hesitate so much between your instructions. It is very hard to follow with the many pauses. Anyways, thank you!
Thanks for the suggestion Ryan.
Thank you
thanks🙏🙏🌹
Great stuff as always 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks man.
Mazatrol Tips and Tricks do u have a email , if it okay i have a program I’m trying to mazatrol at work and having a headache if it’s possible to show u a photo of my program and possible point out any errors i have , thanks
Good video ..you explain ok !!!!
Thanks.
Good channel keep up 👌👍👍
Thank you.
Very useful sir thank u
You're welcome.
Awesome! First time using this option! Works great
Any ideas why I’m not getting my 2nd radius on the start of the groove?
@@Sebastianbartledoo Did you use the highlighted OUT option?
Mazatrol Tips and Tricks yes. My radius is a .088 with .01 chamf on each end. I can’t put a 3 digit number in starting point z
@@Sebastianbartledoo Try reducing the size of the tangent radius to .005 or smaller for that small of a concave radius.
I wish you could copy the groove finish toolpath down on a Mazak. I run into this shape often but i dont like profiling away from my wedge in style full radius tool, which is just a parting tool. Pushing into the cut works better. I've never had to do a production run of this shape, so i have gotta around it by roughing with a groove finish and sneaking in with offsets.
Thanks, just used video to program internal groove I was having trouble with.
Nice. Glad it helped.
Very good
Thank you.
Programming on a fanuc control would really be helpful
This channel is about Mazatrol.
Great video. If you used BAR OUT instead of CPY OUT the motion of tool would be different (plunge on X axle, cutting along z axle ) ?
I am self taught on mazak mazatrol programming.
Can you please show a video on how to cross mill X and Y
My machine does not have a Y-axis.
This is a valuable tutorial. I have never tried this yet. I am confused about one thing. I notice you told the control at the beginning in your sequence data that you were taking off .500 total and leaving .010 finish stock. What determines the amount of material per pass? Is that set in the parameters in this function? Did I miss something?
Thank you. The depth of cut determines amount taken per pass.
Good videos MT&T, keep up the good work . Any ideas on why I cannot seem to get a universal OD tool with the B axis on a 45 to comp correctly on a newer integerx with a smooth x control . I think I have tried every possible combination in tool data and even reversed the tool in the spindle. It’s seems to behave better if I leave out the TNR in tool data ? Any ideas?
Not sure what the problem is but I describe a 45 tool as a general out B tool. Make sure you are also calling it a 45 tool in the description and not a standard tool.
Mazatrol Tips and Tricks thank you for they reply. I’m pretty sure I have it labeled right , general out , 45 holder, etc. it cuts perfectly on X and Z with a TNR value set to 0. With the exception of the chamfer being a little undersized. But to be expected. However if I input .. say .0312 TNR . Z would be off half that amount .016 and X will be off the full amount on a dia .0312. Of course these numbers flip flop and change when I change cutting directions but they do not mirror themselves like I would expect . I have seen x be .031 big and .062 big, .031small and .016 small . Z is either .032 long .016 long or .031 short or .016 short .I went through all possible index , standard or reverse. All four rotations left and right two or three times . It’s driving me crazy. What am I missing?
Hi man
Can you make square milling program from the solid bar.
Thanks
I got one for you , how about undercuts and machine parameters for the polishing adjustments . I am familiar with the fusion but when i try on nexus using same tool description , nothing and I really need this in my toolbox .
Undercut parameters are going to be different for each controller generation. I have no access to either of those controls so I am not going to be any help here. Sorry.
I need some help I have a 4" piece of alum 4" long I need to put a taper in with a radius in the center of .75"
The depth of the bottom of the radius is 3" but both sides taper out to 1" and 3"
I've been struggling pls help t32-2 control . it's a roller for a cable I would post a pic but I see there is no option for that on here .
Hi Dan, shoot me an email with a sketch and I will look at it. My email address is located on the About me page under business contacts.
How do you know when to use a CPY cycle instead of a BAR OUT or BAR IN cycle? I've used mazatrol programming for a long time and I haven't used the CPY cycle often and I wonder what conditions allow you to use it?
It depends on the part geometry. Running a Bar Out on some features will cause the tool to whack the backside of the tool when the machine tries to escape from the part. It happens when the feature is small and the tool retracts into the part. Machining with button tool ceramic inserts on the face works well using a Copy process.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 thanks for the info and great videos. Continue to do more good instructional videos!!
I have a part that has a face flange with a recess. The machine alarms because the z needs to go backwards. How can I do this?
Might need to use a manual process. Hard to say without seeing the feature. What control do you have?
good job phil but you're spinning way too fast
why is it called "copy cut?
how can I change the language fron swedich to english in mazak T1 . thanks for your help .
Have questions on smooth control 5 axis 2 spindal intergrex ,I program alot on this Machine np, but when working on chuck 2 spindal 2 I have to program backwards positive value take material negative backs away from chuck ,I will program a concave radius on spindal 1 huck one perfect when I program same shape on spindal 2 it tells me either excess material alarm or to big for shape ,do everything to make that go away not working shows on simulation for part shape but not on tool path ,I tried to take out roughing because of excess material alarm nope ,ok then I try to make the od /I'd small because of alarm saying shape is too large for unit ,nope ...so then I change those lines and it says backwards contur...and when running eia have to touch off all tools and give them offset to make it work like 2.5 inches but tools are all different some are .800 from zero,bought as a new floor room model not sure we're to start on the 2 spindal ,good for basic shapes on spindal 2 ,but anything more complex it give unexplained problems anyone have any ideas please share
I have found that the material length on unit 0 may be too long or too short sometimes and that affects spindle 2. Try adding material length on unit 0 then face off the excess with edge process and see if that helps.
Hi Phil ...Great video .. I have a Lathe CNC Mazak Machine with Mazatrol Cam t2 in milimeters we work in milimeters in Peru .. so we are machining a piece with a concave groove similar to the video .. but I do not get the shape when I make the simuation .. the piece have 96.1mm of diameter with a radius of 6.6mm and the distance from the flange is 13.4mm .. the configuration of the tool is TOOL FILE Shape: GRV OUT HLDR: 1 DEEP ANG: 35 CUT ANG: 3 WIDTH: 25 TOOl DATA: SHAPE; GRV OUT NOSE R: 1.5 FWR/RV: RIGHT R/L: RIGHT when I make the simulation don't get the shape only in one side .. what could be my error ? no problem with the graphic only in the tool maybe any mistake in the configuration... Thanks Phil great greetings..
Reduce the deep angle to 8mm even though the tool is 35mm deep. The machine will cut the part.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Hi Phil, I tried with 8mm deep angle but not described the geometry... tried with 90mm deep angle and could get the geometry.. it was on the screen I mean in the simulation.. I will try machining a material ..
Hi Phil.. Thanks a lot for this video , this help me to do a work with concave radius similar to the video, very great Phil you are the best , I follow all your videos ... Greetings
@@miguelangelayalapena4493 Thanks. Glad the videos are helpful.
I don't understand why you didn't use an highlighted bar out unit instead of a copy-machining unit. Could you please elaborate?
Sometimes the retract move during roughing with Bar Out can cause the tool to gouge the part. This is especially true if machining a deep V shape. I also wanted to make a video highlighting the Copy process.
Hi Phil
i have one question, i need your helps. if i have a lots of small or Large Concave Radius on a shaft with a pitch, how can i make the program like Grooving? thank you
What control do you have on your machine? Newer controls can do more with grooving where my older control is limited on the type of grooving it can do.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 i use the old machine with mazatrol T 2 like you, so we don't have any method to do this quickly with T2
@@haiangletrong9758 If you just need to plunge into the workpiece, groove 0 will do that easily with a square or full radius tool. If you need to machine a groove feature with a full radius at the bottom wider than your tool, you will have to program it like I showed in the video.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 how about M98? ,Can the control T2 do M98? if the control T2 can do , please show me how to do this
@@haiangletrong9758 Do you have EIA programming capabilities on your machine? I do but I have never tried to run a sub program. I think the T2 control is a little too old to do sub programs but I could run some tests.
Hi Phil, how about I send a drawing and you program it with Mazatrol? so that I can follow your program?
I can’t find one for Fanuc controls
How would you program it if the radius was .004" above center?
Not sure what you mean.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 if the radius of the groove is .004 above your x dia.
@@jerrywilson1917 Got it. You would calculate the radius center the same but add double the radial offset distance, which I believe would be. 008" added to your shaft diameter.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 alright thanks for the help!!
Marstercam drawing shape 1min programming finish contur 5 pas 0.8mm step dowm 2min all done go i now,, you show us mazatrol .. normal turning is fast on mazatrol and easy
I keep getting illegal sequence data when following this
You may need to add a line to each side of the radius shape for newer controls.
Pls send me program
Hi
Good work and thank you
_ I hope to make program to any part by Iso program pls
Not going to do ISO program on my channel.
I tried to perform it but it throws the alarm 713 Illegal unit data 🥲
You may need to add a line segment on each side of the radius. The newer controls are a bit different.