Top 25 Most Stupid Moments in Game of Thrones
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- A Game of Thrones ranking video that looks at the top 25 most stupid moments from the show as a whole. Most of the moments come from season 8 and sequences that involve Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen.
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Intro (0:00)
25 (0:31)
24 (1:22)
23 (2:22)
22 (3:16)
21 (4:01)
20 (4:50)
19 (5:33)
18 (6:37)
17 (7:39)
16 (8:34)
15 (9:35)
14 (10:33)
13 (11:12)
12 (12:05)
11 (12:58)
10 (13:46)
9 (15:06)
8 (16:14)
7 (17:40)
6 (19:04)
5 (20:34)
4 (21:56)
3 (23:55)
2 (25:05)
1 (26:12)
Ending (27:43)
What was the line for # 25?
@UCg_s1VNrLoV4cFsH9TKXnuw "Varys no balls lmao" pretty much
Sorry flew over my head. Just a terrible cock joke basically.
*TYRION:* You should consider yourself lucky. At least your balls won’t freeze off.
*VARYS:* You take great offense at dwarf jokes, but love telling eunuch jokes. Why is that?
*TYRION:* Because I have balls, and you don't.
@@eduardoprado0402 Varys' expression is actually Conleth being genuinely disgusted they're being forced to regurgitate this rubbish.
@@addyplatebody you're right! Just watch season 8 table reading and focus on Conleth reactions... He is disgusted with the writing
Honorable mention for Jon being a secret Targaryen the whole show, and then having zero affect on the story and no payoff whatsoever.
Most of the dead in the crypts would of turned to dust after about 80 years so their would of been nothing to worry about.
In a way it was...
He stopped sleeping with Daenarys cos she was his aunt and that provoked her to burn an entire city😂😂
Don't reminddddd meeeee 🤦🏼♂️
@@set8135 really. Even the skeletons coming to life would fall apart from rot or just break apart from a kick lol
To be fair. The pay off was that it was the driving force to daenarys going mad
After seeing this video, I’m so glad Tywin was killed before the writing quality got down; imagine him in Season 8 talking to Tyrion: “I’m tall and you are a dwarf lmao”
Oh god I'm picturing it now :'(
I'm so glad the Tyrells were out too. Thankfully they didn't have the time to ruin Olenna.
Unfortunately, Tyrion and Varys, the two smartest characters, didn’t get to escape the horrible writing
TBF, the eunuchs jokes where there before season 8 and the decline of quality
@@MrBrownvp1 ye like 2 in the whole series, and they were actually funny and well placed within their respective episodes which made them seem organic and fitting to the scenes and characters who said them. They didn't diminish the quality of the acting or the scenes themselves; they usually added a bit of much needed comic relief within very stressful and tense situations. Whereas in season 8, it's literally the opening scene and its a bad joke with bad atmosphere which completely ruins the scene itself, sets up season 8 on a bad note, and overall is a micro chasm of the overall problem with the last 2 seasons.
For #22: If Gendry could row all the way from Dragonstone to King’s Landing-a roughly 350 mile distance-in treacherous waters, in a rowboat with two oars, despite never rowing a boat in his life and not knowing how to swim, then Gendry Baratheon can run all the way to the Wall in thick ass snow.
Gendry is clearly the most physically fit man in Westeros.
It's just Robert's op genes
I thought the same😊
#Truth!
Well; hammering all that steel and iron musta paid off
Put Gendry in the fookin' Ironman right away! He'd clearly ace that shit.
The fact that the Night king didn't throw his spear at Drogon who is sitting right in front of him ready to take off with all his main enemies is my #1
I always viewed that as the Night King being (understandably, given his powers) arrogant.
“I dont need to kill you directly. I could have. I chose not to.”
@@antibull4869lazy defence of bad writing
Agreed, I can just picture that bullshit camera pan from the Night King clearly about to cold logic his way into victory by killing the Dragon 100 feet in front of him ON THE GROUND, but then shifts his gaze to a dragon flying through the air hundreds of feet off the ground
Makes it even more stupid when you think how easily it could have been made way less stupid. All they had to do was make Viserion charge at the Night King and co, that would be a pretty logical reason for his attention to be redirected, to a dragon that is coming right at his group. Yes, we later learn NK is immune to dragon fire but what about the rest of the white walkers? It's plausible for him to want to protect his generals, plus it just makes sense to attack something that is about to attack you even if they wouldn't kill you. I doubt NK would just whistle and ignore a dragon blowing fire up his ass. Nah, he'd smack dat bitch out of the sky, then focus on the other one.
Right! I said that too...instead he shot a 700 foot Steph Curry, Joe Montana, hole in 1
Lyanna Stark: "Keep him safe Ned. Noone should ever know his secret"
Ned Stark: "Don't worry sis. His arc will have no consequence on the storyline"
yet, Samwell finds in a book that Lyanna was secretly married to a Targaryen and had a child before she died.
@@justjeff600 which had no consequence on the story line
😭😭😭
@@justjeff600 note also that he basically picked a random book in the citadell's library, opened it at a random page, and found this decisive information.
@@RielMyricyne right!
It's not just Tyrion suggesting Bran to be the king, but the fact that everyone was like "Oh yeah, the jailed dwarf we were about to execute is right."
I KNOW! He is on trial for TREASON, for one freeing a prisoner and then coercing Jon to kill Daenerys. Also although I haven’t watched the whole series yet I believe everyone or at least some of them believe that Tyrion killed Joffrey.
Exactly! Tyrion is disgraced by the end of the show, he has no credibility or influence over anyone of those gathered there. Yet everybody just forgets that. Also what the fuck kinda name is 'Bran the Broken' and who is calling their new king that to their face??
Not to mention most people in the scene didn't even know him but were still cool with it just because...well, it was the last episode, so no time to argue I guess...
@@rkah6187 - Our King shall be Bran the Broken!
- Just Bran is cool
- Bran the Busted Up
- Ok, or--
- Bran the Wheely Wheely Legs No Feely
@@phoivos hahaha thanks, you've made me laugh out loud
#12 Makes me the most angry because Jaime was the only member of the king's guard to break oath to protect the people. Even someone as highly regarded as Barristen Selmy wasn't going to break oath. For Jaime to say that he never cared about the people was just absolutely ridiculous.
And throughout the show, I really never saw any love/romance between Jamie and Cersei. There was no chemistry, so when he leaves Briane to go back to Kings Landing it really didn't click. They were more like f**k buddies than lovers.
Netflix paid D&D $250m to ruin GoT. Nobody can ever convince me otherwise.
Honorable mention for Jon hiding behind a small lip of rock when the undead dragon breathed fire at him, and still survives. When Dany is on Drogon torching king's landing and exploding building on a pass by... and a concentrated breath from the undead dragon at Jon who isn't moving, is just hiding behind the small lip, the lip becomes impervious, and shields Jon not only from the blast that may explode buildings, but from the heat that would ultimately melt anything in the vicinity.
Don't forget that the same dragon blew up the walls of WINTERFELL with incredible ease about five minutes prior to that.
Originally, I didn't like how in Season 8, episode 3, there was a wight that was in almost every shot, and all it was doing was drinking beer and wearing only boxers. I later figured out that was actually my reflection in the pitch blackness of my TV.
Lol
this comment is f*cking awesome 🤣
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Best comment in the whole section.
That episide was on sky not long ago. I honestly thought, "what's this it's so dark?. " then I realised it was GoT . made me laugh.
I personally dont think them hiding in the crypt was the issue, it was the fact that the dead were able to break out of stone tombs when previously shown they can be kept in wooden crates
I think in the books, hiding in the crypt might be where they go. There's something... special about that crypt. Something almost "magical"
They didn't even showed us whether the corpses of the other Starks were also revived by the Night King's presence. I'm leaning towards some kind of magical barrier that prevents the buried corpses to be re-animated.
They can raise the dead. Correction we had only seen them raise those recently killed. We have never seen a graveyard brought back to life. Having a debate on the limits of this ability could be interesting. Jon debating with a more skeptical Tyrion.
If the Knight King can just raise corpses after decades of decaying why did he need to have an army to attack with? Why not just get close, raise the dead, if they fail then repeat before the bodies can be burned.
oh man great point!
🤯Helloo!!! Weapons and tools! Ever used any? The wight in the crate was a chained prisoner with nothing while the wights that went for the crypt were free; you can easily argue they had weapons and tools. 💥
For #10 I just realized that canonically the dragons won’t go over the wall. In Fire and Blood, Queen Alysanne Targaryen tried to fly her dragon north of the wall and it refused to do it.
Canonically. Dany’s Dragons don’t care I guess
canonically that’s the book and not the show.
Was the show wall accurate, and if yes, did he try flying out to the see and getting behind the wall from the side? Would make a total sense to me.
The night king was to find the horn of winter and bring it down. Nope, and ice dragon spewing dragon fire and not melting.
@@sierrasloan9069not true. The children stay beyond the wall and the show mentions that the NK has tried but the walls magic has kept them back. They’ve also had Benjen mention that because he is a dead man walking, he too cannot cross the wall with bran. If they weren’t going to include that factor, they should’ve left it alone. But they hammered down on its magic being in the wall, until that wasn’t feasible for their plotline anymore. The dragons should have never crossed the wall.
I personally think it's dumb as fuck that the Night King, played by a professional stuntman and sword fight choreographer, didn't get a badass fight scene with his brand new sword prop we see on his back the entire fucking episode. Such a missed opportunity to show off Furdik's skill.
Its subversive bro. You dont get it
You forgot about the white walker dragon destroying the whole wall but not being able to get to Jon when he is hiding behind a bolder
@Major Mail I've seen some people defend that scene saying Jon is a Targareyen so he's immune to fire while in the books nobody is immune to fire not even Daenerys, they did that in the show just for spectacle. Like literally we have Tragedy Of Summerhall where Rhaegar Targareyen was born while his cousins, uncles and other family members died in a fire
@Baseball Koshien I don’t remember the night knight riding the dragon when it destroyed the wall
@@Darkstar_Dayne Yeah you'd think Jon "the name less bastard child," would have noticed if he couldn't get burned at some point in his life and wondered why...
Jon knows nothing so He cant die because He dont know how
This and arya said dragons melt stone
Jon Snow's lineage never being addressed definitely deserves a spot on this list
Y’all must’ve missed an entire episode
@@jcruise333 Jon's lineage being mentioned is not the same as it being addressed and developed. Who are Jons real parents has been THE question since the beginning and the way they handled the actual reveal to Jon, Arya and Sansa was just lazy, suddenly this big thing that they've been building up to means nothing, it barely affects the plot and the characters aren't given any time on screen to show how it affects them, Jon constantly saying I don't want it does not count
You could have taken out the big reveal and it wouldn't have changed a thing, they could have done that to a lot of things in Season 8 and it wouldn't have changed a thing
@@jcruise333 what relevance did it have other than making Daenerys angry because she couldn’t have sex with the person she wanted lmao.
Once they decided they were not going to roll with the prince that was promised plotline I think Jon’s lineage became sort of irrelevant (in the grand scheme of things). It was a retarded move tho, as the whole series is named after that prophecy (A song of ice and fire).
Ok, in the shows logic as it is (which leaves much to be desired as this video shows) Jon knowing his herritage, making him turn from being any more romanticly with Daeneries, is what drives her over the edge -- suggesting she really is mad and like her father being paranoid -- which in turn makes her thinking "breaking the wheel" is to raise all of Kings Landing to the ground Cersei style. Hence everyone she doesn't trust should be dead in kind of remiscent of her father "burn them all" cry before Jaime killed him. Surprisingly she suddenly has trust for Jon, the man that broke her heart, because she like anyone always goes back to an ex at the chance of getting back together - which is human but hardly significant of Daenaries head strong character. Its all a bit much, but following its own logic of making characters getting dumber than before to fit the sensational drama the script writers thought Game of thrones was all about and who the characters were at heart.
Danny forgetting about the iron fleet was definitely one of the worst for me like she is hundreds of feet up in the air which means she can see much further than the fleet can so she should spot them long before they would be able to fire on her
- Arya's white horse
- the Golden Company being dead after a second
- Bran doing nothing
- The Unsullied being just angry at Jon
- Bran not being the evil guy making Dany snap
- Jon not being killed for regicide
- Melisandre dying after lighting the swords without effect
- the artillery being in front of Kingslanding
- the Dothraki being ended in episode 2 and returning in episode 6
- Arya sneaking away from the walkers instead of killing everyone since she's able to kill the Night King no problemo
- everyone plotting against Dany as if everyone was an idiot
- Arya not being a faceless man after being stabbed to death
- Littlefinger not seeing through Arya and Sansa's plot
- Varys being a traitor despite the warning two episodes earlier
- Jon riding the dragon without Dany suspecting anything
- Jon's and Dany's terrible love story
The red witch ended her time deliberately mostly because her “time on earth” serving her god was over.. and also because she felt so guilty about burning that little girl alive thinking it would help. She says to Devo’s “I’ll be dead by morning” so definitely I think it was her way of saying she felt bad herself so regardless if she died in battle she would do it herself.
Which maybe that little girls death did have a purpose. as the show says everyone’s always where they were supposed to be. As if everything that happens is part of a bigger butterfly affect chain of events. Finally idk how her god feels about suicide but maybe she condemned herself out of guilt also. Idk just my thoughts.
I assume Dany gave Jon permission to ride the dragon !
In reality, someone like Dany would've never been murdered or conquered. She was extremely powerful with a shitload of army and a fully grown dragon who felt everything his mother felt. So if the dragon could feel when somebody had bad intentions for his mom, he should've felt that Jon was plotting to kill her.
To me, her death makes 0 sense and i get that both her and the dragon trusted Jon but i don't understand why Daenerys trusted him THAT much. In a sane tv show, Dany would've taken that trone and ruled for a long time because she was unstoppable.
The way that I can’t even go back and rewatch a show that I was obsessed with for years because of how badly it ended is so depressing.
Yeah I can't even rewatch the good parts, because if I do I can't shake the looming, inevitable disappointment to come.
@@philsparks6717 same. I’m like “what’s the point in X even doing this”
Same here. 🙋🏻♀️😭
I always come back every few years, watch character compilations, fan fic theories and alternative plots (which are usually better than the show) or channels like this making fun of it 😂 and that's my rewatching
That's why I only reread the books nowadays. The book plot just ends in a massive cliff hanger that's never going to be resolved. But the reread value is much bigger than with the disastrous show ending
Jon just forgot he was a Targaryen.
Bran forgot Jon was the rightful king.
That's right he is meant to be the king I mean bran being king was like the most messed up thing ever
Jon was the rightful king, but what good is the rightful king if he doesn't want to be king? Jon wanted to be free, to be with the wildlings so why force him to be king if his heart wasn't in it? This said, I don't believe Bran should've been King. I don't know who should've been king, but to me neither Bran or Jon were the right people to take the throne.
Why do you think he came all the way to kings landing.
Bran: hehehe... Evil smile
Jon is half* Targaryen
@@jaynyce5923 Do people usually take their dad or their moms last name? What does that make him?
Euron: Can they swim? Jon: No
Until they have to strap on scuba gear and dive down into the lake, attaching huge chains to pull up the dragon, from under the ice.
Can we please talk about how Danny literally sent the dothraki and unsullied to fight everywhere and still by the time she took over kings landing she still had the same large hoard that she began with?
I mean considering the dothraki went head first into the whites and the Unsullied are literally every where getting their heads cut off, shouldn't their be a smaller army by the end of the show?
It just doesn't make sense that her army doesn't lessen in numbers at all
Yeah, one of the D's even said "It's the end of the Dothraki essentially" when they charged the Whites and then in the next episode they say "Half are gone." when by the end, basically 0 are gone. 💀
Rickon’s death being completely forgotten about as soon as it happened should have been on this list
so true
we really needed WAY more slots than just 25 - i mean, how could the choose? there are so many problems...
I knew he was dead the moment they brought him back in as a prisoner. Of course in the books Rickon is still alive being watched by Osha on Skagos.
The sole reason it was done was to create what was ultimately weak conflict over the throne of winterfell.
@@Slender_Man_186 Its always easier to kill someone off when you don't have a plot progression for the character. Thats why I knew he was dead. At that point Arya, Jon, Sansa & Bran drove the Stark story line. Bringing him back to be anything relevant would've been too complicated for Dumb and Dumber
I personally love how Arya had the ability to change her face and besides using it for the Frey’s, never uses it again... So yeah, waste of skills learned by the faceless men😐
For some reason she waited until the battle hast started to try to kill Cersei. Like she could have prevented the battle/slaughter if she went to Cersei earlier. There is no explaination why she would be there so late.
Or you know, how she spent 3 seasons trying to get to Essos to learn from the Faceless Men and then have her leave 2 episodes after she's started training, yknow
Hated the faceless man bollocks
Yeah, another waste of potential!
She would be great at the IMF
Sam bringing up democracy and the Dothraki just running into a massive hoard and just dying were the worst bits for me.
😂😂
Democracy really is awful isn't it.
A stupid moment for me is when Rickon was running through the field IN A STRAIGHT LINE getting shot at by Ramsey. Rickon without a doubt would've survived if he zig zagged, but no since he didn't have a purpose in the plot why not kill him.
Jaime's arc being butchered with only one line is just sad. He deserved more... much more.
One of my favorite characters and he just got shat away.
Jaime was a man who did the right thing for the people, only to become a villain for it all his life. You could not end a character more horribly
it undones his entire arc with one line...wtf
@Your Wrong there's only one explanation: shitty writing
The fact that he somehow still uses a sword in many battles, when even earlier seasons it was a big deal that he basically lost his mojo is almost as stupid imo.
Shout out to the hound being one of if not the only character to stay consistent through the whole show
and hottest ☝🏻he really became the only character i watched the show for and arya. i’m reading the books now and rewatching the show
Yarp!
Narp?
Not really, he died unnecessarily just to kill his brother, who would have died anyway, making his whole redemption arc about forgiveness and not caring for vengeance pointless
@@ericgonzalez2946 when did he even get a slight notion about forgiveness? His arch was about learning to love again and value life. He never stopped wanting to kill the mountain.
I could never understand how they just managed to produce all of those ships so suddenly as well. Or where they managed to find so much food too in various places.
Not only produced them, but they were gorgeous. The gold paint and inlaid artwork in the sails was well worth the time!
@@dennisbarrett6148 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Euron building 900 ships on 5 days on the iron islands, which dont have freaking trees is gonna send me into a coma
I enjoyed this. I like how you virtually left seasons 1-4 untouched because, well, they were great.
Honorable mention: Jorah Mormont getting greyscale and not transmitting it to anyone else despite touching 99% of the characters in the show
because he didn’t actually touch them with the infected tissue on his body. common sense and context clues could’ve told you that
That plot all made sense to me, unless I misunderstood something. I thought grayscale had to be direct skin contact with the disease-so in Jorah’s case his arm-not just any part of the person or object carrying the disease. Like with Shireen, the grayscale part of the doll touched her face, but the parts of it she touched with her hands to hold it to her face must not have had grayscale on it since her hands were clear. Jorah kept his arm covered with his sleeve until he was at the citadel, and then Sam removed the infected skin, keeping his own hands and arms covered while he did so.
@@sierrasloan9069 lol you just felt like having a power trip including that common sense and context clues part, cute 🤣
@@JNDReacts thank you, this actually cleared up a lot. I was just under the impression they had to be in contact with the person, not the affected area. Makes sense
@@KadeensWrld lmao tell me your pride is hurt without telling me your pride is hurt. you assumed the writing was bad because you didn’t understand something obvious. And if you think writing words on the internet is power you’re dull.
GOT critique videos like this give me the satisfaction that season 8 failed to give me.
It's sorta like the Star Wars sequels. I go to videos like these to make myself feel less disappointed.
"It has been over 2 years now. You should get over it and move on"
Me: No, I don't think I will.
@@firingallcylinders2949 Bruh the prequels had soul and creative ideas behind them, the last got season is just bad
So season 8 is technically still responsible for said satisfaction 😂
So cathartic
I think an honorable mention is Sansa stating that being abused and rapped was the best thing to happen to her as it made her who she is. *BARF*
Another annoying character arc (or lack thereof) was of Bronn. He went from a Sellsword who would kill for the highest bidder, to becoming a friend and risking treason to set up meetings with Tyrion and Jaime and risking his life to save Jaime against a fire-breathing Dragon. And at the end he goes back to kill Tyrion and Jaime and offers to spare their lives only for Gold and Castles as if their friendship meant nothing.
That tweaked me out. Consider he rode all the way to the north just to say that stupid shit
I hate the fact that he got hight garden
Minor character who should have been excluded from the show a long time back.
by season 8, the story has been going on for years and bronn has been working for tyrion since season one and got little compared to what he was promised. when tyrion had to leave westeros, jaime did pretty much the same thing with bronn, paying him little compared to what he was promised (which by now is a considerable promise of lands, titles, a wife and a ton of gold) so cersei promises him something even bigger to kill her brothers, to which tyrion and jaime after being intimidated, promises bronn highgarden and the reach by extension.
so no, it is not out of character for bronn, he was always a sellsword by heart. of course friendship meant something to bronn, otherwise he would have immediately killed both tyrion and jaime when he saw them. you can call him a terrible person for this, but people do get fed up if they work for others for years and do not get the rewards they were promised.
How did Bronn and Jamie not boil alive in that water with that heat right above them is what I would like to know.
Honorable mention: Davos telling the Unsullied to “create their own house”….😐
Right! 🤣
4Head
Gotteeeeem!!😂
Even if they were...uh...”intact”, did he not notice the lack of female Unsullied 🤦🏼♀️
In Reach, because Jaime has killed every person in the kingdom...
One of the most stupid moment in Got history has to be when the white walkers pulled those gigantic chains from their asses and then diving in the frozen lake to pull the fucking dragon out. Scuba zombies, yeah fucking great writing.
Exactly. They've established many times in the previous seasons that wights and white Walkers can't go in water. Like when Jon fought the wight army the first time with the wildlings. And if they could get in the water, why didn't they cross the wall from the sea? The wall is magic and keeps the walkers out but it doesn't mean that they can't cross it by other means. It's not like the magic prevents them from surviving on the other side.
yep and they wouldve gotten into the water and followed john snow when he first took the wildlings south
They should of just had the night king raise his arms and the dragons bursts out of the ice
@@chrisbyford2943 Yeah there could have a been another moment of quiet tension while he works his magic. The chains and all that was just dumb af. Imagine how scary it would have been seeing climb out the water with blue fire in its eyes. It would also have been waaaaaay more awesome to have a 2v1 dragon fight afterwards.
@Godded Modded Scary because its an _undead_ dragon. 💀
Dany not torching literally every enemy without having to waste 1 soldier is what got me. Yeah, so she can’t kill the Knight King but you can kill his forces. Every time the seasons were activated, they were unstoppable. But now you’re gonna sacrifice almost all of your infantry instead.
For #16 I actually liked Jaime's charge because as a member of the Kingsguard dying in combat is considered the ideal way to end your page in the White Book. "Some had been heroes, some weaklings, knaves, or cravens... The best of them overcame their flaws, did their duty, and died with their swords in their hands." In the books we see another member of the Kingsgaurd make a somewhat similar charge resulting in his death and it is speculated that he did so to end his life honorably.
The part where a teleporting Bronn manages to save him is pretty dumb though.
I completely agree. I actually even liked Tyrion seeing him do it and say how stupid he was as he charged. Jaime saw an option to end it and manned up and did it. Tyrion always thought his plans out ahead of time, where Jaime was known for being sly but very impulsive
I’m with you. I thought it was brave, noble, senseless yes but he finally had a way to regain it all in one move.
Agreed I felt it fit with his character, hes the type to make a big move with big consequences for the people, if he managed to kill Dany he would have saved many innocent lives from burning, its the same reason he killed the mad king, to save people from burning, the plot armor was stupid
*Bron teleports* " you still owe me a castle fucker!" *tackles off horse*
One thing that always bugged me about the scene where Jamie charged Daenerys and Drogon was how deep the water was when he was pushed in by Bronn. They were right at the water's edge only about a foot deep, yet when he gets pushed in the water he's suddenly sinking into the Mariana Trench. Either there's a cliff 4 feet from the water's edge or Bronn super pushed him a mile from the coast.
Bronn's just built different.
I guess you haven't experienced much of water places. E.g. when you enter Adriatic See it is just few meters and you have 15 meters depth. Not every water spot is ocean like. It is possible.
I also like how Bronn wouldn’t risk his life for Tyrion his actual friend when he was in need of a champion but here Bronn gladly lays his life down for Jamie. He really faced a whole dragon for him.
@@ashleyfigueroa3905 only because he wanted Jaime to pay up on his promise.
that's actually quite possible, I swim a lot, and sometimes you might be walking into the sea (any other body of water) thinking you are in the shallows, knee deep, when suddenly you trip and fall into deeper waters, which always gets a good laugh
number 1: the entirety of season 8
It would’ve been such a good treat to leave out any moment from season 8 and get the viewers slowly more and more frustrated until number 1: all of season 8 😂
@@sadrobot5501 Brienne was always a knight ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) she’s got armor on
Season 5 and 7 were shit too
Dumb and dumber ruined everything! 🔥🔥🔥
Throw in season 7
While Jon Snow not being killed by Greyworm and the Unsullied still baffles me to this day, I always sort of just assumed that because Jon was a Targaryen he had some sort of special connection with the dragons and that was why Drogon didn't kill him. Not necessarily the best explanation, but it was, and is still honestly, good enough for me.
Edit: Sansa is still the worst
Kinda funny how the the two thrones (queen of the north and and king of the six kingdoms) went to the two worst starks sansa and the three eyed goof
@@hambu4781 all the starks suck. they had sm potential and d&d flopped all of 3 of them at the end
Would have been fun to see drogon breathe fire on Jon....and Dany seeing him walk out of flames before dying!....wouldn't make sense but would have made much more sense than drogon burning throne
it also makes no sense. dragons are not loyal to every targaryen, only to their rider. plus, drogon was dany's most ruthless dragon
I think Bran becoming King was a bad move, but with that said I think it’s even worse when you add that Sansa decided to become Queen in the North when Bran, her brother, was becoming protector of the entire realm. Made her seem bitter and power hungry.
God, that last episode. What a piece of crap ending to what was once the best show on TV.
“Who shall we choose as king to rule us fairly and create a new dynasty?” The answer: Bran, the handicapped boy who can’t have children and who doesn’t even care about anyone on a human and humane level.
Isaac Hempton-Wright even stated that he doesn't like the idea of his character being king, because all it does is create an Orwellian surveillance state for Westeros. Which is very worrying about the author if he thinks this is the best form of governance.
... And who already said he couldn't be Lord of Winterfell because he was the 3 eyed raven. But he can be king?
but they also said that blood would not decide royalty and that they would continue to appoint the king rather then continue royal succession
@@ladygrey7425 you can't assume the author (which author btw? books, series?) thinks that this is the best form of governance. It is what the characters supposedly think is the best form of governance according to their historical environment.
Tyrion, two episodes earlier "Dany isn't fit to be Queen because she can't have heirs!!!!"
When I saw Danny going crazy, I thoughts she’s going directly to Cersei’s keep and frying her alive along with the Mountain. Instead she kills everyone EXCEPT her!
Yep, I'd have totally understood her going crazy and destroying the keep but she has spent 6 seasons going on about how she is a queen of the people, then suddenly she doesnt care about the people when ses after a bit of revenge?
Arya should have had that death
Anger makes one do stupid and senseless things
@@mothermramaila8133 even if you think about it from that perspective it still doesn’t make sense. They didn’t make up any reason for her to hate the common people
@@mothermramaila8133 anger doesnt make a person who locked away her dragons after killing one baby suddenly decide to commit genocide
The way they treated Littlefinger made me the maddest by far.
My view with Jon surviving charging the Boltons is that the lord of light was protecting him - the way he dodged the blows is almost magical, he’s the prince that was promised
it was plot armor who saved him
So the lord of light only saved him to be in the nightswatch at the end. Lmao
To me, number 1 is when Tyrion made Bran king
It’s like Tywin knew this was going to happen and wanted to drown him, but couldn’t because he was a Lannister
LMAOOO Tywin is actually the protagonist
@@DarkNoctum He was the hero we needed.
Lol so Tywin was correct the whole time
Although I agree with most of the rankings, I would definitely put the #8 in the top 3. The army of the dead looked so scary during the battle of Hardhorn where they litteraly decimate wildlings (who are known to be fierce fighters, like Thenns) or when they killed "all the Dothraki" which are also recognized as talented fighters (Robert Baratheon, Ser Jorah hinting it multiple times). In the battle of winterfell, Samuel fking Tarly managed to survive along with Jaimie I cAn'T wIpE mY oWn aSs.
Agreed Bran being King is BS.. it would make more sense if Gendry was K8ng for fs
After 2 years, i still need videos that feed my resentment for this shit.
Yup. Watching in 2021 still disappointed.
Its been two years???? This shit is so fresh in my mind I'm waiting for this year to end me.
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When the Septon wonders what kept him alive, The Hound offers “hate.”
This resonates
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I think you should add the scene when the hound is throwing rocks at the white walkers, and they figure out that the ice is frozen enough to walk on again. All they had to do was wait for Daenerys to pull up with her dragons.
I liked your video, here are some moments that I think may be missing:
1. The defeat of Blackfish it was very stupid, that is, when the Freys threatened to kill Edmure in front of the castle no one said anything but a chapter later, when Edmure arrives at the castle and orders them to let him pass, all the men obey his orders and ignore Blackfish... why? I understand that Edmure is their "sir" but it is very evident that at that moment it is a trap of the Lannisters and the Freys, Blackfish himself says it but nobody pays attention to him, nobody sided with Blaskfish (the man who fought and recovered the castle). How come no soldiers in that castle realize that Edmure was going to surrender except Blackfish? they were really such idiots?. It would have made more sense for the men to accept Edmure because they wanted to surrender for fear of fighting but that's not what happened, the castle captain shows a confused face when Edmure orders to surrender, really? Why is he surprised at what was obvious? Blackfish warned him and he didn't listen, the whole scene is ridiculous.
2. Daenerys is still fighting after Drogon was attacked with the scorpion in the battle of season 7 episode 4. I mean, before Drogon is injured Daenerys has already won the battle, she can retreat to a safe place and order her army destroys that scorpion and kill Bronn, but she fights on, which only puts Drogon (and her) in danger. What's more, when Drogon dodges the scorpion for the first time, Daenerys decides the smart thing to do would be to attack Bronn head on, allowing the latter an easy shot, that was stupid, what if Daenerys falls off Drogon for the attack of the scorpion? simple, she would fall and die, literally every time she flies on a dragon she is in danger of dying because she doesn't have a chair to hold on to, one sudden movement and she could fall out of the air and die.
3. Daenerys was a fool to listen to Tyrion's advice, how did Tyrion become the hand of the Queen? he literally did nothing good in Meeren (his only good deed was release the dragons but really in the battle of Meeren Viseryon and Rhaegal could have been missing and it wouldn't have changed anything), Daenerys had to go back to Meeren and solve all the problems herself. Even Tyrion admits that he was wrong and failed. Why listen to Tyrion after that? Tyrion gave bad advice throughout season 7. Even Varys or Olenna were better options to be the hand of the Queen. Jorah could do it too, Danny just has to wait for his return.
4. Why do the North and Danny need Cersei to join the war against the Night King? Cersei no longer has an army after the battle in season 7 episode 4, Cersei herself admits that she need to hire mercenaries like the golden company to has a chace to win. Dany could have killed Cersei and taken Kings Landing by the time she got to Westeros, no one could have stopped her. In the end, Cersei was useless against the Night King, all that "we need Cersei for the battle at Winterfell" was bullshit.
5. Why does Dorne obey Ellaria and her daughters? they killed Doran Martell (the prince of Dorne) how come no one in Dorne protests against that?, I mean Dorne managed to hold against AEGON TARGARYEN and his dragons but couldn't hold against Ellaria and 3 other stupid blood killers . ...WTF????, only Olenna Tyrell dared to call Ellaria a triador because the rest of Dorne fell silent. The Dorne plot was the biggest nonsense in all of GOT in my opinion.
6. Cersei crowns herself queen............ I guess she did it because no one else stood against her, I mean, she has no right to the Iron Throne, her children also had no right because they were bastards. How can the people of King's Landing keep their cool in the face of Cersei? It's common knowledge in Westeros that Cersei destroyed the sept of Baelor, it's like destroying a holy relic for the populace but no one said or opposed Cersei for it.
7. Daenerys gains the loyalty of the Dothraki after killing their leaders, it felt weird, I mean, the Dothraki are supposed to distrust magic and wizardry and have a lot of loyalty for their leaders, the moment they saw Daenerys to leave the flames, the most logical thing would be that they kill her because she killed their leaders and she has magic but instead everyone kneels before her, I'm not saying it's impossible but it was felt that the series accelerated everything so that Daenerys could quickly return to Meeren. I think the worst thing about this point was that there started the ridiculous argument that Targaryens are immune to fire (I don't know how many people still think this is a given in the GOT universe).
8. Jon's origin is useless in the end, the only thing he managed was to create dispute and fear in Daenerys's mind but nothing else, Aegon Targaryen?, nothing mattered.
9. Daenerys and Jon's relationship feels forced, they had no chemistry and shared nothing in common other than blood.
10. Why did the Night King risk his existence in the Battle of Winterfell? Let me explain: when the Night King raised the dead at Winterfell, you could practically say he had already won the war, Daenerys was surrounded by an army of the undead, Drogon was flying with the dead hanging from his body, Jon was running like an idiot around the castle with no escape, etc. The Night King could easily have left Winterfell and let his army of the dead kill everyone, that way he doesn't have to risk his own existence, I mean, if he falls then his whole army falls too, Arya couldn't have killed him because he wouldn't be in the castle anymore, he could have left Winterfell with his generals and the main characters would have died, did he really have to kill Bran personally? Why? any undead or white walker could do it for him, if the Night King hadn't risked his very existence then he would have won the game of thrones without a doubt.
11. Benjen Stark disappeared for 6 seasons only to return at the exact moment to save Brann (and later Jon) from certain death, his return not explained in detail, his disappearance taking a backseat and the character then dying without giving no clear explanation. This is the definition of a Deus Ex Machina, Benjen was literally a plot device not once but twice.
12. The scene of the dragonpit in episode 7 season 7 was strange, that is, the place looks very small considering that according to Tyrion's story this same place housed Balerion (who was much bigger than Drogon), added to that, in season 8 episode 5 when Daenerys destroys the city, the population of King's Landing is shocked when they see Drogon, supposedly this is the first time they've seen a dragon in over a century, but there's a problem here, the Dragonpit is located in King's Landing so the population of King's Landing should have already seen Drogon (and Rhaegal) before when Daenerys and Cersei parleyed in 7x7.
13. Some scenes went overboard with fan service. Something that made the first season of GOT mythical was the death of Ned Stark (until then the "main character"), the series moved away from the typical plot where the protagonist ends up winning regardless of the obstacle, the death of Ned Stark sent the precedent that in GOT the good guys don't always win and not everyone gets what they want, the problem was that in the last seasons they ignored this by giving certain characters the opportunity to complete their mission and main objective. The biggest examples are Brienne and the Hound, it is too much of a coincidence that Stannis managed to survive so long only for Brienne to find him in all that pile of corpses and give him the final blow. The Hound on the other hand should have remained dead, as simple as that, his injuries were very serious and he could hardly have survived. Instead DyD decided to keep Stannis alive just so Brienne would be the one to kill him, and the Hound was brought back because they needed to give the fans a fight between Sandor and the Mountain. Something similar happened with Arya who achieved the revenge she always wanted against Walder Frey, however that case is a little different because Arya trained in the arts of assassination so that she could get to Walder Frey without raising suspicion.
14. Littlefinger's death was stupid, what's more, the whole Sansa vs Arya thing was stupid, Littlefinger was the smartest character in the series (if we forget the stupid decision to hand Sansa over to the Boltons), the guy was a master player and It's very evident that D&D just didn't know how to get him off the board consistently because the guy is one of those characters that not even his creator knows how to defeat. To achieve this D&D had to use the ace up their sleeve: Bran, literally the only way to beat Littlefinger was to use the character who has access to the script, it was nice to see him finally die it's true, but it was also disappointing that he was defeated so boring.
15. The final meeting at the Dragonpit was nonsense, it was obvious that Bran would be elected king, How could he not be? Almost everyone present at that meeting was his family or friends. What's more... What position does Gendry occupy in that meeting? Is he the lord of Storm's End? he was supposedly legitimized by Daenerys but the problem is that she was not queen of Westeros at the time, after seeing what she did in King's Landing it seems hard to believe that anyone would support any law or decree that comes from Daenerys. Can the people of Westeros really accept a foreign Queen legitimizing a bastard and making him Lord Paramount of the Stormlands?
16. Stannis left Dragonstone abandoned, Why? Furthermore, why didn't anyone else take control of the castle after that? Daenerys just had to arrive and open the door. It's hard to believe that someone like Stannis (at least in the books) would leave such a symbolic and well-located place abandoned.
I will NEVER get tired of your videos dragging D&D through the mud
I will watch all of them
Let them burn in the ashes of their careers, they'll be writing high school musicals by the time winds of winter comes out
They jumped in there themself
Im heavily disapointed from HBO that they didnt stop Dumb and Dumber from ruining this season, and not even fixing this mess. They let them buttfuck the most popular show on the world.
You shouldnt just hate Dumb and Dumber, you should hate HBO too for failure to fix or stop this shit.
They deserve it ☹️.
I lost braincells over Jaime leaving Brienne
They literally obliterated a 6 season long redemption arc in a single scene
it's okay, he was feeling horny
“Dany sort of… forgot about the Iron Fleet”
this is absolutely hilarious and horribly frustrating yet satisfying that someone has pointed it out, all wrapped up neatly. nice job. stupidest moment ever? when we use the word 'moment' instead of general writing flaws and plot holes, probably when Dany chose to drink Starbucks instead of Tormund's soured goat milk, which would have bonded them closely when she was struggling with feeling out of place in Winterfell.
It'll never stop being funny how it was clearly stated in the first episode that it can take WEEKS to move around Westeros, and then eventually it just turns into the size of Ireland and you can get anywhere within a day or so.
More like Monaco lol
@@melissam597 You're right. That reminds me of when King's Landing used to have hills and mountains before Cersei had them all bulldozed to look like Pride Rock post-Scar.
Well it is an upside down ireland.
@@andrewjennings7306 Ah, now it all makes sense.
Seriously! Arya and the Hound leave Winterfell and arrive at King's Landing an episode later. Those two spent 2 seasons fuckarsing about in the Vale and Riverlands trying to get from point A to point B
To add to your point of the dothraki charging the army of the dead. You said maybe because they got excited about the flaming swords. The things is, is that Melisandre used her magic to do it and they were like "awesome!" But in season one the dothraki almost killed Danny for letting the witch use her magic on Drogo and to my understanding the dothraki have always hated magic and witches. Thanks Dan and Dave
The Dothraki charge the enemy on horses because that’s their main tactic..
Charging in a pitch dark night
Ya what was the point of that just for all of them to die. Lol
@@joffreybaratheon4904 that’s their tactic for open fields and attacking a group this was a entirely defensive situation where in for each man and animal to go down supplies their enemies so you have to trade every 1 man for like 30 white walkers. Nothing done in the beginning made any sense all siege equipment should have been behind the walls because they could fire over. All troops should have been within or on the walls leaving less angles of attack. The Dothraki were shown to be competent hand to hand combatants and even they would understand how stupid it would be to Calvary charge the countless masses of undead. That entire fight was written by people who had their brains slurped out by the brain bug from Starship Troopers.
@@brianmayabella5992 let’s not forget putting your siege equipment outside the walls
For #25 those quippy semi funny lines made me realise that season 8 is basically a Marvel movie
You nailed it honestly 😂you touched on things I felt but couldn’t quite put into words as well. Great vid❤
You could tell the actor who plays Varys was visibly upset at the table reading at what they did with his character.
I felt so bad for all the actors and actresses. They fucked this series up so bad. I've never produced a show. But is it REALLY that hard to write a good story that doesn't have plot holes and issues like this?
@@melissafaye915 There are certain fundamentals of story telling that the GOT writers just completely ignored. And community college writing class or student could do a better job.
@@jivet3919I doubt that. If great story telling were that easy, George would've finished his novel by now. As a writer myself, I can attest that it takes a time and a lot of creative juice to make a good story. I don't think D&D did a bad story telling job, I think they just told a pre mature story that wasn't fully developed yet.
Varys fingered Princess Elia to the Lannisters so he definitely deserved to die
@@equusquaggaquagga536 oh was that in the books?
I think for me the Night King’s death was the most insulting and stupid moment. Such a compelling and mysterious villain with so much build-up, finally enacting his plans with full force, only to get 360 noscoped in an instant by someone he’d otherwise obliterate instantly. So many interesting questions with so much potential story were erased by some nonsensical ninja bullshit.
I felt physical pain watching that. That isn’t an exaggeration.
The absolute worst execution. It just sucked. Would have been less annoyed if even Sam or Jorah killed hi..
I wanted to see the night king destroy everything in his path and eventually take the iron throne himself where everyone is dead in his army, in the end all their petty squabbles about power meant nothing when faced with the one true power, death. That episode when they face off at winter fell I was thinking their fucked , there’s no way they survive this. But I knew in my mind some plot armour bullshit was gunna happen such as a little girl flying through the air unheard and then one shifting the night king. Why the fuck did the night king even land ? Why not let his army and generals do all the work seeing as he’s the weak link . He dies they all fall so he should just hide in the north somewhere or at the very least stay on his dragon ?!! So many stupid decisions in the end even though the show started strong.
What do you mean? She defeated him with the power of feminism✊🏻
A strong villian should take on the best duelists in a 3 v 1,remember how(Book only) Voldemort duels Mcgonagall,Flitwick and Slughorn at once and held his own very well?
Hard disagree. Including the Night King to begin with was a bad decision. One of the worst really
George Martin wanted to stray away from the concept of a "dark lord" one who's defeat would instantly fix everything
It's fitting that once he's no longer involved with the show, we get this massive cliche cause D&D didn't know what they were doing.
There's no Night King in the books for a very good reason.
There's a Night's King in legend but he's very different in concept.
If D&D wanted a dark lord, Euron would've been perfect but instead we got a massive finger in the bum
I think my #1 dumbest moment was Arya’s line of dialogue to Jon *after* Daeny had just committed genocide burning down kings landing, where she said “I know a killer when I see one.” I just- can’t get over it.
Killing in war and being a killer are two different things.
The warped faces at the start of each section really elevates this already superb video even further
Addition to point 8: It is also just incredibly stupid that you have this faction of necromancers built up for eight seasons, raising their enemies as undead servants, and you don't have this happen to a SINGLE main character. Imagine Sam, Dany, Jon, Arya or Jaime being resurrected and facing their former friends and family in combat, how impactful this would be. In season 3, we heard Osha tell that she had to fight her own husband as a wight, and this was impactful even when just told as a story.
Talk about missed opportunities.
I would have loved to see that. We saw a glimpse of Lyanna with the blue eyes, but that was it. Imagine undead Brienne (or Sam, he's useless)
Imagine Ned coming back from within the Winterfell crypt.
Then again, D&D would probably just use this for a bad joke: "Let's make an obvious reference to the fact that Sean Bean's character was killed off TWICE in our show! That'll make the viewers cream their pants as much as all the cock jokes did!"
Yooo i like this 😂😂
Jon fighting undead Sam woulda been cool. Maybe Jon leaves Sam to save someone else or to rush to Bran. Sam dies, then Jon has to face him down later on and face the consequences of leaving a friend. And Sam pays the price for fighting when everyone said he is dogshit and shouldn't fight.
I was waiting for the inevitable heartbreaking return of Hodor.... That would be the worst, but I wished they showed that:(
In their heads they thought that having Arya kill the night king was a huge plot twist that would make the audience go holy shit and get a similar effect as that of the red wedding. I'm sure they were really proud when they came up with this shit.
Even thought the night king grabbed her by the neck and they showed in previous episodes they fuck you up bad when they touch you
I think you're totally right!!! I work at a crappy tv production but our writers are actually talented. They churn out great stories day after day only for execs to come up with shite shocking ideas like that. I guess totally the same happened at GOT. They screw audiences with "shock value"
The only reason it upset me is that she didn't have a large enough jump. Arya can easily jump a distance of 40+ meters up to a height of 26 meters. Why hold back? And further, why didn't she do some type of floor routine spinning flips? Also, a battle cry? Really? She should have had a full line, like, "Hey Night King, think fast! I'm gonna kill you! Whatchu gonna do about it?!" They could have let her say all that during her jump, that way she'd still have time to drop a sick one-liner before sticking the NK in the exact spot where the obsidian shard went in, only not.
I’d be happier if she killed Cersei
In one of those “inside the show” interviews or something, one of the DXD says they knew Arya was gonna kill the Night king three years before the finale. That’s because DxD had a sit down with GRRM because GRRM hadn’t written the last two books and DxD needed to know what direction GRRM wanted the story to go. They were contractually obligated to him to keep his version of the story.
I agree that #15, "Jon charging Ramsay's army and surviving" is a hilarious example of plot armor, but...damn it was dramatic and effective :)
I would argue that Jaime charging at Danny is not that stupid. There is a literal battle going on around them so no way she would hear him coming and if he is fast enough he could maybe throw his spear at her and kill her. Now that would be a suicide but he would do it protecting his men, he killed the Mad King to stop him from burning down a lot of innocent people and now he tries to save his men from the same fate.
Another stupid moment is when Bran says there is missing a master of whispers...like..he can see and hear everything in any time, but he needs a master of whispers?
I feel like this is a point that gets harped on too much. If imagine worging is stressful. Bran would have to do everything all the time. Rather than just farm it out to other people where he can followup on information he seems necessary. A doctor can in theory run a clinic all by themselves but it makes more sense to hire nurses and other support staff.
He's too busy being a complete f up to tak eon extra responsibilities
@@lowkeylokii4205 there is absolutely no indication in the show that warging is stressful
@@harish123az yeah exactly, just maybe that it’s difficult to learn but bran did it with the three eyed raven for such long periods of times and the three eyed ravens whole life was doing such work
@@lowkeylokii4205 Stressful? He said it himself, he's entirely emotionless now. I don't think he even gets stressed.
D&D basically had no idea what they were doing. They were so obsessed with 'surprising' the audience they forgot to make it make sense. I mean if they wanted to surprise people, why didn't they have Hot Pie swoop down on a flying pig and kill the Night King before being made Master of the Kitchen?
Tbh it would have been a better ending for season 8
😭😭😭
I'm here for it. Even Hot Pie has a better story than Bran the Boring.
Because that would have been a legit surprise and not a fan swerve
Tyrion discovers he's the lost son of the Dwarf King, and after finding their secret kingdom of old, he manages to activate the army of Stone Golems that were dormant for milenia, and use them to help Daenerys :v
The last distorted Bran's picture killed me man, you are an artist *hatsoff*
I have a decent idea for why Drogon destroyed the throne instead of killing Jon. (I'm not sure why he wouldn't kill Jon as well, but I do have an idea for why he destroyed the throne.)
As we all should know at this point, Dany drove herself mad over becoming the ruler of Westeros. And we all should also know, dragons and their riders have a connection (as we see A LOT more in House of the Dragon) where they can feel each other's emotions and pain. So, Drogon held the throne accountable for driving Dany mad which led to her death, he got upset and destroyed it.
If anyone has any counter-opinions or anything I'm missing, feel free to reply! I'm open to constructive criticism and debate. Have a wonderful rest of your day/night, and thank you for taking the time to read my opinion.
You're right, but I do believe that that point was recognized by a majority of the people who saw it. Balerion welded em all together and Drogon liquefied it. But, the question is why? Why did we need to be shown that the dragon who was about to permanently leave the story was able to identify the object of all the bullshit that led to his mother dying?
Maybe because he’s a Targaryen
As for not killing Jon, maybe Drogon knew via Dany's emotions that Jon was important to her and she wouldn't want him to die?
What I don’t understand is everyone talking about drogon killing Jon. He couldn’t because he’s a Targaryen right ? And they can’t get burned ?
@@dystopia390 so Jon never noticed while he was growing up that he couldn't get burned? That might be a tipoff that he had Targaryen blood all along.
You forgot Benjen Stark’s extremely unnecessary and random death/appearance to save Jon.
ikr 😭 he could've rode with Jon back to the wall
When Benjen was brought back into the show, he could have just came back, but for whatever reason they decided to both kill him and revive him in a single sentence. Just why?
They could have at least shown it happen instead of just saying it happened.
Remember, nobody had confirmed his death, so he could have just been lost for all we knew.
That and the fact that him being undead adds absolutely nothing to the plot.
Character revivals are very risky in stories, because if they are done wrong then it can remove all tension from character deaths, so they should only be done if it actually adds something.
Yeah, I think they just forgot how to logic.
@@dale2283 at this forgot they forgot to how to use logic in season 8.
nah man, he had to distract them so they didn't just continue going the only direction that makes sense for them, towards the wall. It totally worked and saved a lot of characters at the wall that didn't have time to evacuate. Oh wait, it didnt... they just survived the wall being torn down off screen... love Tormund's plot armor to do nothing :))))
Deus Ex machina
The dumbest moment in Game of Thrones was nobody finding new show runners when D&D were clearly not interested in giving GoT what it deserved.
Sadly true... we could've waited for a better ending!
Totally understandable but still would’ve been a very hard task to come into a show and just finish something someone else started I mean it would’ve been hard to be worse then what we got in the back half of season 7 and all of season 8 but still I think it’s a lot harder to find someone who could’ve came in and made that much of a difference
HBO´s fault. They were blinded by the success of the show
@@kidgforce1 It was D&D's fault. They were greenlighted more episodes but refused them.
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Who ends up apprehending Jon Snow after he stabs and kills Daenerys Targaryen? From what I remember, this is the “timeline” of shots:
1. Dany & Jon kiss
2. Jon stabs Dany
3. Drogon shows up, stares Jon down, nudges Dany’s body, roars, melts the Iron Throne, picks up Dany’s body and leaves
4. Drogon flies over the water into the clouds & smoke
**cut to black**
5. Tyrion laying down handcuffed in a “cell”
6. Grey Worm shows up and brings him to the council meeting in the ruins of the Dragon Pit.
So… AGAIN…
How was and who arrested Jon Snow? Couldn’t the dude just say “The queen jumped on her dragon, and said she’d be back in a couple of days.” Absolutely no one saw Jon Snow kill Daenerys Targaryen! And even if someone did, couldn’t he just ask for Trial by Combat? The series finale is 1hr18min30secs long… Dan and Dave are retarded for not adding 10 more minutes explaining the arrest and trial of Jon Snow.
Really glad someone else brought up the Dothraki cavalry charge. I mean, I could almost see them setting the cavalry a mile off to charge through the rear elements of the wights when it was most desperately needed, kinda like when Jon fell off his dragon. But a headlong charge into the mouth of the beast? Stupid
The stupid thing about hiding people in the crypts is how suddenly the undead gain superhuman strength and can easily punch through solid slabs of rock as if they were made out of paper..
Even though the wight they took to King's Landing in season 7 couldn't get out of a wooden box.
@@Aqquila89 .......maybe it’s because wights are stronger when they’re closer to the Night King?.....nah the writers aren’t that creative.
@@ImaginaShip This could be an explanation, but it was never mentioned in the show. Plus, thus super-strong wights that can break through stone walls then somehow failed to kill any named character in the crypts, even though the people there were sent there because they can't fight.
@@ImaginaShip Nah, when Jon Snow attacked Night King, then Night King resurrected the dead and they were literally standing by Night King and still hundred or so wights couldn't kill Jon Snow. Being closer to Night King didn't give them any extra strength.
So I'm going to be that person and talk about book vs show here.
In the books it is very clear that the wights can't survive in the south due to rotting. Ser Alliser is sent to King's Landing with a still moving, served hand and by the time he gets there it has rotten to the bone and can not move anymore. So these wights need to still have tissue, they are ressurected by magic but not held together with it, there needs to be tissue like muscles so that they can still move.
That is why North of the Wall, where it's too cold for a body to rot they can have an army and why Winter coming is so dangerous: if it's this cold in Westeros they can survive south of tha Wall too.
On top of that those are just ressurected bodys, they are strong in numbers not magically stronger than they were alive.
And of couse there is the fact that in the books most of the bodys are skeletons or dust by now. Meaning there would not be anything to ressurect in the first place.
So you could definitly put the people in the crypts in Winterfell savely because it would be impossible for 1. the dead to be ressurected because there isn't enough left of them 2. even if they could get ressurected they definitly could not punch though massive stone.
And even if you say in the show that skeletons can get ressurected and have magic superhuman strenght that doesn't explain the number of wights in the crypts because the bodys down there are so long gone they have turned to dust by now. So at best you'd get like Wight Lyanna, but something tells me that Torren Stark shouldn't be able to walk the earth anymore.
3:35 you don't understand Gendry was rowing that boat for seasons, resting his legs long enough so he could make that one all significant very long distance run.
Bran could just tell Dany they were in trouble cuz he can see it
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Thanks for including music from Witcher 1 during this. :) Unforgettable. Instantly recognizable.
always saw/thought of jon snows plot armor as divine protection from the lord of light, him the chosen one and all
Night King: Kills Theon in like 2 seconds right away
Also Night King: Holds onto Arya and waits for her to stab him
I would've rather had Theon kill the Night King...would've been a great capper to his redemption tale.
Rumor has it, Alfie Allen was actually crying tears of joy at his character dying in a dignified moment rather than him being butchered by shit writing
Tbh, Hotpie could have wasted the night king without a sweat
Plot armor. Everything after season 4 is shit and there’s a lot of sloppy moments after S1
@@Serby665 In fairness to the Night King, Hotpie could waste anyone no sweat. Dude is Squirrel-Girl-level OP.
like the Dothraki taking revenge against jon for killing dany is literally PART OF THEIR CULTURE.....IT LITERALLY STATES THAT WHEN A KHAL DIES HIS BLOOD RIDERS AVENGE HIS DEATH AND THEN JOIN HIM IN THE NIGHTLANDS
I'm pretty sure greyworm and his bae was Danny blood riders even then the dothraki shouldn't be willing to leave land that they could plunder
@@maadtee6281 nahhh Dany made all the Dothraki her blood riders before going to Westeros. She had a whole speech
@@dhamiprlove17 who were her blood riders cause we never saw them she had won their hearts thats it
@@maadtee6281 nah bro she got blood riders after Drogo died. A group of Dothraki left but she had Rakharo, Aggo, Jhogo and then once she burned down the khals in Vaes Dothrak she became khalessi to all the Dothraki and made all Dothraki her blood riders
@@dhamiprlove17 nah they forgot that they were Danny blood rider's plus I'm pretty sure they were killed. And the dothraki should have destroyed westerose
I agree with everything. One thing I would add is the decision to show Theon's transformation to Reek. In the books Theon was gone after he was betrayed by Ramsey (who was a Stark prisoner in the books) and when he came back in ADOD it was such a shocking moment.
It’s funny you mention that. The dialogue in that when he’s captured “says you smell, you reek!” D&D wrote that he should act like that’s the first time Ramsay has thought of the idea.
He’s has had a good few reeks, and the first one was more menacing than Ramsay was.
I completely agree, except for number 16. In my personal opinion, Jamie was so upset over the slaughter of all his troops, and when he saw Daenerys vulnerable, he saw an opportunity to charge and kill her even if it her Dragon definitely would’ve murdered her if he succeeded. Plus it’s just visually stunning. However, I will admit that Daenerys not seeing Bron was very stupid. But possibly maybe she saw bron coming, to save Jamie, but she didn’t see them collapse into the river and so she just assumed that they were burned alive.
Why is no one talking about the stupidity of jon joining the nightwatch again.
Like what is there to guard against? You allied with the wildlings, and killed the whitewalkers...so? And how in the hell is there a wall anymore when we literally see it completely destroyed by the ice dragon?
Wasn't only a section of the wall destroyed?
@@JG-wy4mz looked like the whole thing to me.
@@thehonestchristian492 It's still stupid because the wildings literally scaled the Wall to get South where there were better chances of surviving and I the end they all go back
@@thehonestchristian492 The wall is hundreds of miles long, the whitewalkers destroyed maybe half a mile of it to get through at Eastwatch-by-the-sea. In the episode it doesn't even look like the whole wall comes down, you literally see Tormund and Beric Dondarrion standing on the edge of the wall watching the walkers go past
1st:
Only a little section of the wall was destroyed to let the army pass.
More important:
Jon is not retaking the black there, he leads the wildlings (and maybe some of the crows) beyond the wall to resettle
Bob the Builder for "Dying to bricks" and ALL of the morphed-face moment covers have me DYING from laughter.
Thanks for putting TW3 soundtrack in here bro, love it
Can we all just pretend that the true finale was the end of S6 when Dany & co. were seen sailing to Dragonstone? S7 & S8 were a fever dream, and all 3 dragons are still alive.
that makes sense, i like that
I only take the show as one version/timeline. Which is not a stretch considering there's the books. Then watch fan ideas which are amazing and make my own cannon
Yep, for me that's the true ending... It's better to believe the series was cancelled afterwards (besides, it's a huge disappointment, because, after how bad things were in season 5, season 6 re balanced everything and set the stakes higher than ever to make things epic and so long awaited things would finally happen), even tho season 5 & 6 have some silly moments they were still decent, season 7 was plain bad and season 8 just plain terrible.
True ending of the show is the moment Stannis prepares for the Boltons because that is where the books left off. Everything else is garbage after.
@@sakurasfish2115 that’s really how it should be for almost all fiction
Honorable mention: The Dothrakis charge the undead. Only a few stragglers return. Yet at the siege of King's Landing, the entire Dothraki army is intact.
Man I love the witcher music you use on your videos
6:38 is #1. This whole sequence was changed to make a 7th book / season valid when it really was intended to be ended this one. Great vid, can you tear apart the Lost series next. Need some value from my time there too
I guess D&D forgot that Cersei is obsessed with killing Tyrion because she was convinced he was prophesied to kill her.
Yea she thought she was a subject of a curse of three children dying and crap, yet she forgot she actually had 4 kids. There was a child before Joffery.
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That she took care of with moon tea. She had no children to Robert. That was show only, and kind of a questionable call since they didn't stick to the decision to leave prophecies out of the show.
I guess you kinda forgot that valonqar prophecy was never a part of the show.
@@retriarius845 She does meet Maggie in the show, who tells her that she will have three children.
@@Rougarou99 I know. But there was no valonqar prophecy which the comment was based on.
My personal pet peeve is that Dany didn't start suspecting Jon was a Targaryen when the dragons didn't attack him. Then it turns out he can freaking RIDE Rhaegal, and yet Dany accepts that fact without questioning it. What the hell?
GRRM has mentioned that you don't need to be a Targaryen to ride a dragon. So that's not really a giveaway
Mommy likes him so he must be cool...
Although they let Tyrion touch them as well, but I have heard suspicions he was fathered by a Targaryen as well.
@@MrShadowpanther3 yeah, it's a quite popular fan theory, the mad king supposedly raped joanna after which tywin quit as his hand, tywin bertraying the mad king as sacking the city surely supports it, as do tywin's final words to tyrion "you are no son of mine" iw ould certainly explain tywin's hate for tyrion
@@ruudboltz6677 I doubt GRRM said that to Dany. As far as Dany and the people of Westeros are concerned, only Targaryens or at least people with the blood of dragonriders of Old Valyria (of which only Targaryens are left) can ride a dragon. That's what made the Targs so special and was the primary reason they inter married: to keep the power of the dragon within their house only (and in sister houses like the Velaryons). Even if Dany didn't believe that, Jon being able to ride Rheagal should be a big deal for her and everyone else because it questions the Targ supremacy propoganda. At the very least, a random Stark/Snow being able to ride a dragon should warrant a comment. But nope!
@@ruudboltz6677 tyrion went into the dungeon and wasn’t burned or touched by the dragon. You don’t have to be a targaryean for that
This is more of a mistake than "stupid", but still.. did anyone notice the scene when ramsay said that he would feed Jon and them to his dog? Sansa rides away and THEN ramsay talks about his dogs and said "they're ravenous. I haven't fed them in 7 days." And then when Sansa feeds ramsay to his dogs she says "they were loyal, but you said it yourself, you haven't fed them in 7 days". Well anyways, she didn't hear ramsay say that, so unless Jon told her later (jk), then she shouldn't have known that.
THIS! The continuity was god awful too! They could have easily wrote it like she knew his patterns of “hunting” like she planned to feed him to the dogs all along because she knew they’d be hungry, it’s so annoying! Lol
For number 15 they should have had Jon pickup Rickon and bring him back instead of stupidly charging. That would have been much better imo. It would show compassion, restraint, and intelligence all at once. He wouldn’t need plot armor either. It just boggles my brain wondering why they thought Jon would have just left his little brother on the battle field to get trampled.
The real question is "why Gendry"? He's the fastest? Says who? What does that even matter? Does he know the area or terrain? Wouldn't Tormund be a better choice since he lives there? Is the concept of scouts alien to these people? Why, exactly, would you bring a blacksmith on the mission to begin with. He has no training in any aspect of the military or survival.
Someone argued that Jon told Gendry "he's the fastest" just to convince him. In reality, he is the youngest, so the one with most stamima out of all of them. It's not amatter of running fast, it's a matter of how long can you run before you collapse of exaustion.
Davos 'you can't come, you're not a soldier'
Gendry 'No, but I'm a fighter'
Let's drop Floyd Mayweather in the Middle East, he can surely deal with ISIS
@@darkadrien14 Fan service. Gendry was there for fan service.
They apparently forgot the Nights Watch had rangers specifically for these circumstances.
Also forgotten completely was Gendry's ties to Robert Baratheon, and that whole bloodline mystery.
In my opinion, Rhaegal's death was the worst moment of the whole show for 2 main reasons.
1). It's one of the most ridiculously impossible things in the whole show. George said hitting a dragon from the ground is a one in a million chance and Euron did it 3 times in a row. That's a 1x10^-18 chance of happening (zero point [eighteen zeros] one chance). So Euron hit Rhaegal (a fast moving target) from fucking miles away with medieval artillery on a boat (Probably not the most accurate thing) square in the chest, in the wing and then straight through the neck. All this from behind a cliff so he couldn't even see his target. Not to mention straight after this when Dany and Drogon fly straight at Euron, he can't hit shit despite Drogon being a bigger target and much closer. Same shit next episode no one can aim anymore.
2). It's just terrible from a story standpoint. Viserion's death (As terrible and contrived as that was) had major effects on the story. It completely changes the nature of the threat that the white walkers pose because now the Night King has one of the most powerful creatures in the world as his undead servant and without Viserion, the Night King may have had a tough time getting past the Wall if at all. But Rhaegal? Dany and Drogon take King's Landing without any issues. We don't even get a scene where Jon finds out about Rhaegal's death. Jon and Rhaegal needed a much more developed relationship. Jon being able to ride him shows that not only is he a Targaryen, but that Dany isn't the only one who can control the dragons. Much of Dany's power has come from her being the only one who could control the dragons but now that power has been reduced. Imagine how great it could have been if Jon think's that (believable) mad queen Dany can't be queen and she's like well I have 2 dragon's so who cares what you think. Then Rhaegal sides with Jon and now both sides have a dragon. Boom conflict / drama ensues.
The deaths of the dragons should have been so impactful and emotional. Viserion died because Jon had a berserker rampage for some ungodly reason and Rhaegal died because Jack Sparrow if he was played by Nicholas Cage and Ron Jeremy no scoped him out of the sky for cheap gasps from the audience and ultimately has no impact on the story. And that leaves poor Drogon alone to demonstrate his Sansa level intellect and burn the Iron Throne because he understands the deep symbolism behind the throne and how that it was the true enemy of Westeros that ultimately left Jon with no choice but to Kill Dany but it's all G, Drogon understands Jon's dilemma. Either that or Drogon saw a knife in his mother and attacked the closest pile of knives (My head cannon).
Such a shame that the most popular and well known dragons in pop culture don't go out with an explosive bang leaving a mark on the audience forever, but with ridiculous death's and forced scenes that ultimately mean nothing.
Let go
Totally agree
Agree 100% especially the part about Jon and Rhaegal not bonding. Like compare s5 scene of Dany mounting Drogon for the first time to Jon riding Rhaegal. As shitty as s5 was, that was a pretty epic moment. It was magical, meaningful and you really get a sense that she did something that hasn't been done in centuries. With Jon, it felt like a random drunk joy ride. Like a dragon is a fucking horse anyone can mount for shits and giggles. And nobody, and I mean NOBODY is surprised that he is able to do this, even though Dumb and Dumber established in the show that only Targaryens ride dragons-yet everyone is like 'ye, Jon claiming this ultra rare magical beast is totally normal. Just Stark things 😊'. Rider/dragon bonds are a huge deal, and a life long bond in the books, yet Dumb and Dumber boiled it down to 'lol mommy likes you so you get a free ride'.
@@TheaTheGenius Honestly couldn't have said it better myself. Like What if the bond between dragon and rider is stronger than between mother and child? so what I said about Dany and Drogon fighting Jon and Rhaegal would be even more impactful. It would have forced brother to fight brother, mother to fight son, lover to fight lover. Could have been great. Or what also could have been great is we get more scenes with Jon and Rhaegal and then Rhaegal meets Ghost. And maybe have a scene later that forces Jon to choose between them. Or even just a scrne where Dany meets Ghost.
@@shapesnatch1341 absolutely. Imagine what it would have done for Dany's character development if she was forced to choose between the throne, and her child and lover. She would be forced to confront just how power-hungry she had become if she's willing to fight the people she cares the most about. Instead, we get 0 insight into why she nuked a city, other than the 'Cersei tried to use the innocents against me'. Like what????? How does that even make sense?
Tormund forgetting he had rode a dragon.
And the facet that she didn’t attack the Iron Fleet after they killed Raygall they needed to reload and she was basically in burning distance!
essentially, bran's entire role in the long night.
@@Julsiy In Defense of Bran there are three things in which he indirectly was a catalyst for some good plots even if he was not part of the plots itself. His fall and then the attack on him leads to the capture of Tyrion and therefore to the attack on the riverlands, which was the precedent of the War of the Five Kings. The sacking of Winterfell by THeon and his presumed Death lead Robb to break his vow to the Freys, which lead to the Red Wedding, and the last part is his rescue of Jon from the Wildlings although maybe Jon could have dealt with the Wildlings on his own, but it is doubtful if he could make it alive to Castle Black and with Jons return the mutiny could be ended.
The guy can see the future and past but only decides to use this to look at acient wheelchairs lmao
He was busy playing Crow VR 😂.
he should have been the one who stop the Night King thanks to his abilities and heroically die, therefore a lot of people would really appreciate his character, instead we have people hating on his character if not the most because of the actual ending
He should of used his psychic animal skills to take out night kings dragon
An extra aspect that makes Littlefinger's decision to sell Sansa to the Boltons so dumb, is that Littlefinger appears to genuinely care for her, albeit in a creepy way. But GRRM said at one point that he never would have done this, because he really does want to protect Sansa. It's the only mildly redeeming quality in a character that is an utterly despicable villain in every other respect, and to take that away is just stupid.
I hated that, but overall the point of that plot is legimizing the Bolton rule of Winterfell via marriage and jolting Theon out of Reek. And since the show yeeted Sansas best childhood friend from the story (that took the place of Arya with Theons blessing, and grew up with them), I honestly dont know who else couldve taken the role. It was coming from season 1, the moment they decided not to give Sansas friend a relevant role, they planned for Sansa to take her role, cause again, who else?
honestly it would make so much more sense to marry sansa to loras tyrell because then the entier tywin forceing cersei and tyrion to marry the tyrells to stop them from scheming would have some utility and you could have a actual moment of shit cerssei is dumber then she thought and tywin was right that could be a huge growth moment for cersei to help redeem her like jaimie, it also would be a redeming moment for littlefinger because he married her to protect her and not for a dumb reason, cersei also can now have a real reason to hate the tyrells and littlefinger now has the vale the north and the reach agaisnt cersei and he could make himself king like he always wanted because dorne would easily ally itself with them agaisnt cersei the stromlands dont have a ruler and cersei barely has any power in the westerlands then when danny comes it would cause a big mess for littlefinger and he dies that way, and because he truely cared for sansa she has a reason to hate danny, like the story would make so much sense if bealish married sansa to the reach
@@BambiLena666 They could just have reintroduced Jeyne Poole. It's not as if you can't introduce new characters later in the story, and to be fair, Jeyne barely had a role in the books either prior to being sent off to Ramsay.
This just makes me mad all over again lmao
That's because the fans are horny bruh (sansa raped and all). And i think the existences of littlefinger itself at that point is a joke. I mean how is he alive when dealing with lannisters and being a nuisance to Varys' grand scheme of putting False Aegon on the throne. But then again, they did remove the plot of the 'false dragon' from the series.
This was beautifully done
#22 is really so insane and I never thought about the bran point that would’ve made literally the most sense !