To be fair, they could have made Gendry the King and it would have made more sense than Bran, a bastard becoming a king is the best "story" they could have had.
Omg same. Two friends of mine and I were in a call watching it together, and while we‘ve all been roasting the episode all along, that actually made us scream. One of my buddies quit because of it lol
His story was so good they had to leave it out of an entire season because it would’ve just overshadowed everything else that season…Actually thinking about season 5 that could’ve been the case.
Worst part about this isn't even that Bran had the worst story.... WHO TF PICKS THE RULER OF THE 7 KINGDOMS BASED ON THEIR STORY? 😭 😭 😭 😭 D&D is so fitting for dumb n dumbass 💀
Euron in the books: "Who knows more of gods than I? Horse gods and fire gods, gods made of gold with gemstone eyes, gods carved of cedar wood, gods chiseled into mountains, gods of empty air... I know them all. I have seen their peoples garland them with flowers, and shed the blood of goats and bulls and children in their names. And I have heard the prayers, in half a hundred tongues. Cure my withered leg! Make the maiden love me! Grant me a healthy son! Save me, succor me, make me wealthy! Protect me! Protect me from mine enemies, protect me from the darkness, protect me from the crabs inside my belly, from the horselords, from the slavers, from the sellswords at my door! Protect me from the Silence." He laughed. "Godless? Why, Aeron, I am the godliest man ever to raise sail! You serve one god, but I have served ten thousand. From Ib to Asshai, when men see my sails, they pray." Euron in the show: FINGER IN THE BUM
Great scene from the books, one of my favourites. How naive i was, waiting for them to depict Euron as he is in the books and was waiting to see this scene. How utterly disappointing.
@@kinglizardwizardry763 Hot Topic Pirate Edit: Yes I borrowed that line from Lindsay Ellis' takedown video, I don't care. She borrowed from "Gay of Thrones" so it evens out.
@@Batist13 Nk didn't hesitate to kill anyone besides maybe Jon snow. He killed Theon and broke his spear literally shows that he has superhuman strength. Why did he take his time to stare at her? He would've/could've just crush her skull or snap her throat and get on with three eyed reven's death. Most realistic situation. And what was point of Jon's character? To kill Dany? What was the purpose of the "Prophecy"? It was obvious that he was Nk's rival since the 1st season. Arya literally had no business in Nk' fate nor in Jon'. Arya "assasin" flying to kill Nk was entirely nonsense. And don't even start with misogyny or some sort of that bs when whole season was about 2 woman fighting for Iron throne.
@@noobsaibot0622 Arya who flies... after the cup of Starbucks or the Long Night too dark. Don't you want to stop inventing anything to justify your hatred and your misunderstanding of the end of GoT ? Arya has nothing to do with the god of death. Please, let's be serious.
Cersei blowing up the great sept and not facing any consequences was beyond stupid. The common people in Kings Landing would rush into the Red Keep and drag her out even if a thousand died in the process.
Killing most of a house, destroying the great sept and likely hundreds or thousands of civilians, only a couple of years after her son the king was mocked and attacked in the streets for his behaviour, and then everyone in the whole city (bar Jaime) forgetting it two weeks later in season 7. unbelievably horrid writing indeed
I hated what they did to Tyrion and Aria the last couple seasons, but I consider the way they killed Littlefinger and Varys the biggest crimes of all. The most devious and conniving man in Westeros would not be killed by the Scooby-Doo gang, and there's NO way Varys would allow Tyrion to betray him, he would have sniffed it out and disappeared. I don't think Olenna needed to die, but at least they let her go out like a boss.
Varys death was bullshit. He was the master of whisperers for a reason. And littlefinger went out like a bitch. Littlefinger was stupid to think that he was safe going back after what he pulled...and Varys didn't like Danny to begin with...none of it makes sense
Na! No matter how they killed littlefinger, it felt good. Except you mean he deserved a more horrific death. Varys, I hate but yayyyy to littlefinger’s.
@@chibuzorokonkwo7039 He was playing the game really well and got screwed by some scrubs. Thats the issue. Him dying is of course well deserved after betraying Ned. But, for instance, Joffreys was much better reasoned and was even more satisfying because of that because it didnt feel cheap.
I still can't stop laughing at Jon yelling to Gendry "You're the fastest!". Because his head is shaved? He's more aerodynamic? He's the youngest? Literally so stupid. And Gendry - who had never seen snow before - runs through the true north - where he had never been - and makes it to Eastwatch. P.S. Jon and Dany's dragon joyride made me feel physically ill. Such a monumental moment reduced to a fucking awkward date. I hate it. So fucking much. That was definitely one of the lowest points of the show for me.
Maybe just that Gendry is the youngest, so potentially the fastest and potentially the one who should outlast the old guys if there was a problem. It's frankly very simple to understand, you are really crazy haters.
Maybe (MAYBE) Jon simply wanted Gendry, as the youngest, to survive. He knew he couldn't have said it directly, because Gendry would've refused to leave them to die, so he invented the "you're fastest" excuse.
@@Al-ji4gd it bothers me when people only point to season 8 when talking about the bad writting. It's been there since season 5. As soon as they run out of material they fucked it up
@@joseceniceros1928 Exactly, man. The cracks were there as early as season 2, in my opinion. They plastered over them with some compelling storylines, good acting and memorable moments, which made seasons 3 & 4 great seasons of TV. After season 4, though, there was no hiding it anymore. The signs were already there, it just took people a while to see them because they were so enamored with the show.
the fact that there were hundreds of noblemen and lords present during the petition for the heir of Driftmark in HOTD and only like 10 to decide who's gonna become the next heir to the iron throne, the next King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men", and the Protector of the Realm, shows how even more awful that ending was
I think it could make sense in a way that since in the books a lot of houses died due to the War of Five Kings, and even more later on. But 10 is pathetic
@@steffanyschwartz7801 "a lot of" is quite the overstatement. Here's the full list: House Hollard, House Darry, House Whent (probably, though not 100% confirmed), House Caron (alive through Ser Rolland Storm and possibly Bryce's kids), House Rambton (vassals to the irrelevant House Sunglass; possibly extinct but could also be alive). Most houses are well as of the books. As for the show, houses Bolton, Karstark, Umber, Mormont, Frey, Whent, Hollard, Tyrell, Tarly, Martell might be extinct.
@@steffanyschwartz7801 such as? There's no houses named nor is it really all that likely. For a house to be wiped out, all male members would have to be killed. It gets wonky when considering the females (as then it is almost impossible to go extinct). The red wedding saw a lot nobles killed but it was largely only representatives from houses (usually in form of the head of house) plus personal companions. As for the battle of the Blackwater, some nobles will have died too (a ridiculous amount of Fossoways did as an example) but that's never gonna be all. There'll be the boys too young for war, the uncles and cousins and nephews that were busy elsewhere. The Riverlands raiding did extinguish at least the Darrys and possibly the Whents. But we know the Brackens, Blackwoods, Vances, Pipers, Mallisters, etc are still fine. That's most the Riverlands still alive. If you want to make a point, give details
@@steffanyschwartz7801 no robb starks campaign didn't result in the extinction of that many houses. Only houses darry and whent (presumably) went extinct. Most houses just had to give up hostages or lost 1 member IE house manderly who lost Wendel (i think it was wendel anyway) and Wylis was a prisoner whilst wyman and his granddaughters are fine.
The worst thing in all of S8 for me was Rhaegal‘s death. Like..after Viserion got done so unbelievably dirty just so the night king could have a cool dragon mount was already hard, but Rhaegal‘s death just broke me. From it canonically not making any sense (Dany kinda forgetting abt the iron fleet) to the death itself just feeling empty and only there for shock value. Also Jon never acknowledging the death of his dragon whom he shared a close mental bond with (according to Fire&Blood) was straight up horrible.
I kinda disagree with Viserion, because even the big ballista was shown to not be very effective against Drogon, and the dragons were presented as the ultimate weapon against the army of the dead. I think showing that even the dragon aren't safe from the Night King's power serve as a way to "even up the scales"
@@smilingman4299 I do like this idea.. but his manner of death just seemed so comical. With the olypmic spear throw and all. I understand the night king is this legendary creature but really? They couldn’t come up with something better than that?
The death of Viserion was at least KINDA understandable with the explanation being "powerful magical ice zombie killing him"... but what they did with Rhaegal was absurd. Not only did Daenerys conveniently forget about the iron fleet but Euron turned into a perfect marksman for this one moment and SOMEHOW managed to hit Rhaegal directly through the neck despite him being a moving target and the ballista - obviously - firing in some arc, it's not like it was a gun or anything like that. If they needed Rhaegal dead, he should've died taking on undead Viserion. It'd make FAR more sense and if he took Viserion down with him, it'd give his death some meaning.
The added insult here was that several thousand pound huge dragon Rhaegal couldn't carry little 170 pound Jon Snow to KL because Rhaegal needed to heal. When in reality it was so they didn't have to try to figure out how Jon could survive the fall
The thing about season 7 is that so many things that the audience wanted to see so bad (jon & dany meeting, tyrion & cersei reunion, sequence in beyond the wall, etc.) actually happens, but it is not effective at all. People expected these moments for a long time but when it happened, well, it had horrible writing, had no consequence, out of character moments.
What it did do was delay the general audience from hating the season. It wasn’t until the last half of season 8 where there was nothing left to disguise the poor writing & pacing
or major moments that did happen but they decided just not to show it for whatever reason for example when john told his family about his true name, right when they get to that moment its like they just cut the scene out for no reason???
Cleganebowl was the same, at least for me personally. In spite of all of the hype, it was so poorly executed that it didn't really leave a lasting impression
@@harold926 I meant in terms of the story leading up to the fight. So much of the Hound's story in seasons 6 and 7 was letting go of the revenge tour and fighting for a cause, then they kill the NK and he's just like "Welp, that's done. Time to go on a suicide mission to kill my brother"
For me the long night will always be the worst episode. I remember that day , changing so many sites because I thought the brightness was messed up and that moment that Arya stabbed the night king I felt real physical pain as if I had been stabbed. I was in such disbilief arguing on the internet that "there is no way this is how the white walkers go, Bran was warging something the whole time maybe that explains things, surely everything will make sense in episode 4". So so sad.
I expected it to be bad, but on the other hand, that episode also had 1 good character sendoff (Jorah Mormont), which coincidentally also is the only good thing in the episode. I think that propelled it ahead of the later episodes, which don't really have any good things.
Agreed! Although I did feel like the opening scenes were well done, with the tension building as you saw everyone getting into place. But for me, Melisandre lighting the Dothraki blades is the last cool moment of the series so I like to pretend that's the end.
I remember being in denial when the scripts were leaked....I was like "no way". And gradually I came to the realization that the leaked scripts were hundred percent accurate. Even up to the very last episode I was like this can't be right...
Idk but arya killing the night king is still amazing and her stealth kills pays off at an amazing moment saving her home But obviously the most Disturbing thing is we didn't got to see a Combat between the Night King and Jon snow as both were amazing characters presented there
@@huzzzer6083 Well, Yara's attempted rescue of Theon in season 4 was atrocious, Jaime raping Cersei and Theon's arc in season 2 was watered down due to Ramsay being cut.
As far as im concerned season 7 and 8 were a dream. The change in quality was soo big it was a different show. Hoped Martin will get the books finished and we can have a good end
i am re-watching the series again for the first time since the finale. I just finished season 3. Its soo good... It hurts knowing where the show ends up.
I would recommend Watching seasons 1-6 completely. However, if you’re ok stopping in middle of a season I would recommend stopping about halfway through season 7. Despite what many people say season 7 did have great moments that are really worth seeing on the screen.
The best part is when Tyrion lamely says "There's nothing in the world more powerful than a good story." and then you think "That may be so, but GoT season 8 is not a good story at all, and neither was Bran's story"
The Dragon and the Wolf (S7E7) may not be the worst one but I'll always hate it. A useless council meeting and the pathetic death Littlefinger. It's only saved by Jaime's scene with Cersei at the end but that's subsequently ruined in S8.
my hbomax glitched and skipped this episode. I went straight from e6 to e8 and I didnt notice at all I skipped an episode until days later. That's how irrelevant this episode is
@@jordansdead88 season 7 doesn't have 8 episodes. It only has 7 so how could you skip from 6 to 8 when there is no 8? Did you go into season 8, is that what you mean? And if so, how could you not have noticed that a new season began without a finale?
I love this intro. Everyone of us who loved this show and was invested in it knows your pain and misery and we all share this burden together. The wound will never heal
Once again realising that if they’d just moved the death of Rhaegal to The Bells Daenerys’s sudden descent into vengeful madness wouldn’t have felt anything like as contrived. They also could’ve used Beyond the Wall as an opportunity to demonstrate how much Daenerys’s dragons mean to her, how she truly regards them as her children and how deeply losing one of them affects her…but nope!
@@NoahRankin59It still doesn't make sense. Go straight to Cersi to burn the red keep. No need to bully the small folk that aren't behind the anti dragon bolts.
Loses one of her children, stares blankly. But oh no, she's not leaving the Wall and waits there super concerned until she sees any sign of Jon Snow, b/c she got the hots for him now.
The whole Stannis/Shireen fiasco is where the show died for me (hence my username). The show started nosediving once Tywin died but Stannis' character assassination was the final nail in the coffin. By the time seasons 7 and 8 arrived all I could do was laugh, I'd reached acceptance and it was nearly enjoyable watching how much of a farce the show had become.
Danny being turned into a tyrant could have been a good storyline if they put any effort into it. Infact that actually go against it throughout the entire show. In the books its actually gonna happen and they have been building up to it from the beginning. Danny isnt a messiah saviour in the books, she's in inexperience little girl who is targaryen red pilled and leaves a burning fire every city she visits. But in the show they build her up to be this absolute god empress, when GRRM clearly shows how targ thinking they are closer to gods than men is hubris. The danny build up needed a long time, not 3 episodes.
Exactly, there are idiots still claiming "Oh, but it foreshadowed in previous episodes". No, freaking way, in no point it foreshadowed Danny will be a mass murderer. That story should have to be build up. Show always depicted her as a savior and she actually is, without her Night King would have destroyed entire Westeros.
The funny thing is that the series also has certain elements why Danny changes but it's portrayed completely badly and wrongly. She says herself to Tyrion that she loses something every time she listens to her 'advisers'. She loses her dothrakis. But then not because they need an army in the end. She loses two dragons. She loses her best friend, she loses battles and her fleet, and in the end she learns that there is a legitimate successor to the crown who is loved by many in Westeros and fears that she still has her claim to the throne loses and even helped him get that far several times. If all of this was well written and would have had the time to expand and build it up, it would have made complete sense for Danny to stop listening to anyone and use violence and fear to take what she believes is her due.
The books don't foreshadow it neither. On the reverse, Danny is not a strong headed leader like she is portrayed in the show, but a naive, sensible little girl trying to act brave and cunning. She is afraid and conscious of everything, she has a crush on his pretty mercenary and trust to people so easily. I don't see this girl becoming a tyrant neither.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 Dany reminds me of a young aerys targaryen. When aerys first ascended the throne, he wanted his people to prosper. He wanted to be known as "aerys the great" or "aerys the wise". When the bravosi tried to collect their debts he wanted to invade bravos and "bring the titan to kneel". He ended up being used by lords great and small to rise to power due to him being easy to manipulate. If it wasn't for tywin Lannister a rebellion would've happened long before the war of the usurper. Dany'ss afraid of everything but certainly not conscious. If she does beome a tyrant she won't be a cunning leader who manipulates her people. She'll be a crazy bitch just like her father
That line about how Arya killing the Night King doesn’t utilise any of her established assassin abilities made me picture a version of the scene where just as TNK is about to kill Bran, he out of nowhere stands up and stabs him before pulling his face off and revealing it was Arya and their plan to trick and get close to TNK. So thanks for that hilarious image. Genuinely think that would’ve been better as at least it involves some amount of setup, an actual twist and implies that our heroes actually went into the battle with some kind of plan beyond “hope we win this battle”
That would've been a good idea only if it were possible. The problem is that the night king knows where bran is since he left his mark on him. If it was Arya pretending to be bran, though she'd look like him, she wouldn't suddenly have the same mark. The night king would just walk straight to the real bran wherever he'd be without taking a single glance at Arya.
One of the issues for me is they totally forgot the prince that was promised prophecy. Arya just seems like a random choice. Maybe it's just me but it felt too Mary Sue.
@@deannas2778 honestly, I much prefer a version of the story where prophecies don’t mean shit My favourite interpretation of prophecy in fiction is the whole “one meets their destiny on the road they take to avoid it” moral, where the character makes the thing happen by trying to prevent it…Kung Fu Panda/Red Dwarf Future Echoes style 😂
I like that you pointed out how bad a decision it is to have the nobles choose the king. Everyone was like "Yay democracy!" That's not democracy. The best case scenario you have is an oligarchy that chooses the king that would be the least threatening to them and the likeliest scenario is a bloody civil war after Bran dies. It's unlikely he will have children, and all the nobles are going to want to be king and have loyal followers to fight for them. Think 3rd century Rome.
No matter what trash Season 8 has to offer, to me Beyond the Wall is still the worst episode ever. There's so much plot armor, the whole "capture a zombie" is a pointless, braindead suicide mission. And the fact that Gendry ran to the Wall, a raven went to Dragonstone and then Dany flew beyond the wall which should take a week AT LEAST, while Jon and his crew sat in the middle of a frozen lake is shocking, and not in a good way. Not to mention the pointless conflict between Arya and Sansa. Season 7 was mediocre/bad to this point, Ep6 is just complete trash. The ONLY saving parts would be some dialogue scenes between Jon and his crew, like his talk with Jorah. But some of them are still tainted with cock jokes, because that's comedy today.
The funny thing is that that idea IS in the books, but it is almost on the background. The Night Watch sends Allister Thorne to Kings Landing with the frozen hand of an Other (White Walker in the series) as a proof that something weird its going on (after Lord Commander Mormont is attacked and almost killed by some ice zombies in his own bedroom) and to ask for more men to fight on the Wall; but by the time he's in front of the Lannisters to ask for help, the hand is melted and is so gross to watch (or something like that). Tywin laughs at the request and Thorne is send back to the Wall without help. So D&D took that idea but they didn't read the book very well because in the show, that episode has so many flaws is beyond stupid... And by the time the whole gang arrived in KL to show the thing to Cersei, it wouldn't have mattered at all because the White Walker should have been melted or at least more decomposed. They just didn't read well enough Martin's books and they bend time and space in Westeros to their convenience in the series. Without George's writing, the show became an awful shitshow that makes me want to cry even to this day...
And the Hound throws a fucking rock at the Army of the Dead, who had up until that point been stagnant in their attempts to attack the group 🤦♀️ But why. But how.
@@CatLady1989 Actually, that is in the show as well but it's only mentioned and not shown. I think it's in season 2. Commander Mormont sends Alliser Thorne with the wight hand to King's Landing but they never mention what became of it. Alliser simply returns to the Wall by season 3.
S6e1 is a great shout for this list. I started rewatching GOT last month and when it got to 5 I noticed the visible drop off, but it was this episode where I now notice how bad the plot armour is and lack of reality in the show anymore.
GoT jumped the shark when they killed Stannis. Brienne's "dilemma" was pointless, and I'm pretty sure it marks the first time a character faced no consequences at all for (what should have been) a weighty decision. Sansa should have been FURIOUS with Brienne since she not only left her post but did so to murder the man who was trying to liberate the North from the Boltons.
Tbf season 5 still has elements from the books but is mainly based on the feast for the crows, worst book in the series imo. After the death of Tywin everything just drops, even in the books, although dance with dragons is good.
@@djole93podbara yeh I know some of the storylines are similar to the books, and I get that a lot of season 1-4 was edited from how it was in the books too. I think the point about Tywin is so true and I’ve heard people say the same about the books. Ultimately he was the most overt antagonist and arguably one of the most influential people in Westeros so it was massive him dying. I think this is why GRRM is taking so long with the books too, as he built up such a complex universe and story that actually killing off well built up characters in a way that doesn’t cause a decline in quality is so tricky.
@@maxpatterson1699 yep, I agree. I m just hopping Martin finnishes the series. Btw I have to say that storylines are basically the same in the books and series up until season 5 when they start to "part ways" mostly. For example Stannis is alive, John is dead, Sansa is in the Vale, Catelyn is "alive" but Arya is in Bravos with the assasins.
@@djole93podbara yeh there’s similarities but the stories do change a bit. Stannis frees lots of northern lords to rally their men, Baelish faces a plot from the e vale lords whilst Sansa is under a fake identity. I’d say that although the stories are similar there is massive differences. The worst difference I think there is from the book is the way euron is written, he is such an interesting character that could have such an impact in the book
What offends me was that I was captivated by this programme from S1 E1. This was the greatest show I have ever seen, with the greatest characters ever written. Then, it's as if Tyrion left his brain in Kings Landing. I think I spent the last two series, going, "Shut up, Jon!" My group of favourite characters were just assassinated by crap writing. I used to recommend GOT to everyone, now I just can't be arsed. It's sad, because everyone else worked so hard. Apart from how dark it was on the long good night, the CGI was great, the production was great, the actors tried the best and the soundtrack by Ramin Djawadi was outstanding.
I vividly remember watching the last episode, hearing Tyron talking about stories and thinking, well maybe Bran would be the king because he knows all the stories, so alright, i can get behind that. Then Tyron said "who has a better story than Bran the Broken" and I feel a level of cringe that I has never felt since then
You are underestimating how many "normies" found this show amazing because they just consume without stopping for even a second to think what just happen in each episode. There is this girl that I work with, she's maybe 21-22, and she has just recently binged the entire show and she was mind-blown even with season 8. In her mind, the prisoner of war (Tyrion) deciding what council of nobleman should do and him picking the new high king was perfectly fine. That's just an example. She was fine with everything as long as Jon Snow was alive, because "he's hot". I don't know, maybe it's because she binged the entire series in like couple of days so she didn't really have time to reflect on it, so Jon's character remained "the same" to her, while we can all agree that entirety of Jon's character in season 8 was "she is muah qvin!"
The moment this show turned its back on us and focused on the “bar watchers” is when it really died. If your show can be watched and understood in a loud bar, you’re doing something wrong.
Yep I can confirm this with ppl I've known who started watching after the rush. They said they loved it all. I asked "even season 8?" Yep, amazing to them. So I wonder if they actually watched it, or they just are saying they liked it because the rest of the crowd used to talk about it, and they knew it had clout.
To add to "The Long Night"; once they eventually get the trench lit, they immediately cut to Jon just chillin on the wall of Winterfell... sitting on a fire breathing dragon... right next to the trench. Apparently he just sat there, watching dozens of men get mowed down while they tried to get it lit.. Maybe he was busy thinking about how he didn't want it.
Unbowed, Unbent and Unbroken was when I knew the show was in the toilet. Then "No One" confirmed it as bad fanfiction. The show died with Tywin and were still waiting for season 5.
I know season 8 has even worse plot lines but the one that annoys me the most to this day is Littlefinger in season 7. They literally turned the most cunning and imo best player of the game of thrones into a goofy scooby doo villain. He also gets like 5 different warnings that he's in danger and choses to ignore all of them. The worst part is, that early on in the season, he actually gives some good advice to Sansa, about how one should always consider every possibility at all times. "Everyone is your enemy. Everyone is your friend. Fight every battle, everywhere, always in your mind." And then he just ignores his own advice lol. Like you are seriously telling me that he did not consider the possibility that his plan (which was stupid anyway) to turn Sansa against Arya failed?? That plan had like only two realistic outcomes anyway, either they turn on each other and Littlefinger wins or they find out what's going on and Littlefinger loses. Damn bro, guess he just didn't think of the possibilty that his plan could fail, AFTER BRAN LITERALLY REVEALED HIS POWERS TO HIM!!!! It's so fucking dumb...
Wouldn’t Littlefinger have realized how utterly screwed he was, upon learning about Bran’s abilities, thus being forced to eliminate Bran immediately, and wouldn’t Bran have realized this all too well to be revealing his abilities like this in the first place? (It could otherwise have been interesting to see the master schemer endeavoring to outscheme the all-seeing eye…)
Not to mention that in 'Beyond the Wall' there are only named characters on the quest but when they needed someone to die, there was a random extra actor joining them lol.
Considering Varys might be a blackfire in disguise (the merman theory is cute but we never meet actual mermen) with the young Griff plot line making more sense, him going against Dany outta the blue in the show when Griff was cut was painful af
they literally just needed one more season showing how she conquers the rest of the world including winterfell and slowly slipping into madness to at least try to justify her whole mad queen era arc
Exactly. The problem isn't that she went mad (especially when you remember this will happen in the books, too), it's the lack of development and how quickly they rushed to it happening.
@@Batist13 Quite right, when she has the means to defeat her enemies in less than 10 minutes with no civilian casualties at the start of season 7 and then chooses not to, I certainly didn't understand her.
@@Batist13 You're referring to when Tyrion convinces Dany not to go through with just killing his sister and ending the war in less than a day and instead tells her to enact a siege to humanely starve out the peasants living in KL?
This is another youtube video to prove that a show with such an outstanding story at such an absolutely enormous level getting ruined will never ever be forgotten by the fans. David and Dan shall forever be shamed for their decision for years and years to come.
The last time D&D proved, they can be competent writers was in the season 6 finale. There we get to see the battle between ned and his group and Arthur Dayne and Gerold Hightower. The scene where Lyanna says,"Promise me Ned" was really emotional Both young Ned and Lyanna did amazing in that scene And not to mention the starting scenes of the episode, which contains one of the best scenes in GoT. Many would say the show died with Tywin and Oberyn but according to me, the show died with Margaery and Lyanna.
One time I overdosed from heroin laced with fentanyl twice in one day and died and was brought back to life. Afterwards I felt like I never drank water in my entire life but the nurses would not allow me to drink water for the first 30 mins because it can cause issues. I’d rather go through that but except wait 24 hrs to drink water than rewatch the finale of GoT…..ferociously HORRENDOUS
Also, I wonder how Obara and Nymeria even got to Trystane. I'm not wrong in saying that they were at the harbor with Ellaria at the end of Season 5, right? So, if they were there, then how did they just sail all the way to King's Landing, kill Trystane, and then sail all the way back to Dorne? I guess if you wanted to, you could assume that some time had passed, and they took a ship themselves to chase after Jaime, but it just seems like that requires overlooking a lot, too.
But don't you see? It makes sense for Greyworm: after her death, Greyworm leaves the unsullied, found our world, took up the name of Louis in 1900s New Orleans when he finds his new boyfriend: a bisexual French vampire named Lestat. Total sense
I’ll never forget when I saw Arya kill the Night King. My brother was screaming “yeah get it girl” and I was like “huh??” It was like all the build up was just destroyed right then and there.
One of things of bother me about the Long Night and the Bells is the armies. The Unsullied, Dorthkai, Night's Watch, and Northmens lost at least 5,000 or more troops in the Long Night, yet they're able to mount an assault on a fully fortited King's Landing with (presumably), way more infantry arms than them? That makes zero sense. Remember when the Kastarks left Robb and he had to go to Frey to recruit his forces to attack Cassidy Rock? If he didn't have the manpower to just attack a much weaker King Landing after losing almost half his men, why does Dany and Jon have enough men, supplies, open supply lines, and armaments to attack a stronger King's Landing when they just survived an attack from the dead? I guess Dany and Jon's army have respawning abilities.
Agreed, kinda looked like the Dorthkai got wiped out in that episode. Not to mention standing in front of ur siege engines and fortifying a trench and then standing in front of it??? That episode was such a let down for what had been building up for so long
Last two season was a shit storm hard to top them but Season 6's first episode is good choice. Making a coup was so difficult in earlier episodes but it suddenly became so easy and without consequences. It just showed how story has no direction. My personel worst episode choice is Ramsey's 20 good men and Stannis burning his daughter (I don't remember it was same episode or next to each other). It was that episode I realised writing getting bad.
Same for me. When Ramsay said "give me 20 good men" I was exicted and anxious about what they were up to. But their sabotage action happened off camera. Which was really lazy.
I can laugh my way through a rewatch, even in seasons 7 and 8. But the last episode makes me straight up angry every time. I think I just saw it once without interrupting and ranting about it, even though i´m alone
Totally agree. I can still watch (though I have to skip boring/annoying/pointless scenes) during the last two seasons, but I literally can’t bring myself to watch that last episode for a second time ever again. Probably forever.
For me the last of the starks is the worst, I mean : -cersei NOT killing tyrion -death of her dragon -dany forgots about iron fleet and iron fleet dont manage to kilka drogon -I think cersei might even try to kill (with Scorpions ) deanerys, drogon, Varys, Tyrion etc. But this is just my thought :), so tells me if I'am wrong
no excuse for the constant cock jokes and decline of dialogue, but when it came to the pirates at number 9, i’ll give them a bit of credit since tyrion didn’t have anything to promise them anymore, money wise anyway. Abandoned the Lannisters and hadn’t been accepted by Dany yet so it was a bit different from the encounter with the hill tribes
I always stumble across your GOT videos, and always wind up watching them, and am always so pumped you put The Vagabond by Marcin in there. Love it man, great content
The only sense I could find in Bran becoming king is that Bran will know about every single treason, treachery, assassination before hand and will squash it.
The way Gendry talks about his "loving father" King Robert and how he wants revenge against the Lannister's for killing Bobby B still liter literally makes me queasy my stomach. Oh yeah and the Warhammer and acting like him and Jon Snow are Robert and Ned reborn throwing up right now as I type this. It would be so funny if it wasn't so damn tragic
Don't forget that the Sandsnakes were present at Jamie and Myrcella's farewell and in the next season they are suddenly on board the ship that they previously saw sailing away from Dorne. That's stupidity on very high level.
Sorry for late reply, no one cares now I'm sure, but seriously, Dany couldn't just fly to the building Cersi is in and destroy it only? Good video, so glad you brought up how dumb it was Jon constantly saying muh queen, muh queen...got so sick of hearing that.
My list is simple. The last ten episodes, the last few of S7 and all of S8. How about the WWs magically having humongous chains to pull the dragon out of the frozen water? Aside from your #1 pick, my worst moments were Arya killing the Night King with ease, and Dany pointlessly razing Kings Landing.
The only episode of season 8 that I'm willing to remove from the worst episode list is 8x2 purely for Brienne being knighted and the song Jenny of Oldstones. It's not great but it's not as trash as the rest of the season
1:32 - Not to toot my own horn too much but I wasn't. I'd been complaining about the declining quality of "Game of Thrones" ever since season 5 screwed up Sansa's arc so badly.
Very true. Trying to rewatch only highlights and heightens the plot holes and crappy writing one overlooked the first time around. D&D really butchered this story, there's even a proof from rewatching and reevaluating the good things! That's some achievement.
If there's one positive you can take from this, is that I now finally understand Greyworm's scene with the executions. It was dropped, then put back in to bump up the runtime. It finally makes sense to me now. So thank you for making this video!
In the first two or three episodes they say it takes a month to get from kings landing to winterfell it should take like a month and a half to get from dragon stone to the wall
Okay but let's be clear, GRRM never confirmed that he said anything about Daenerys going mad to D&D for the final season. Actually he's been hinting at this ending being very different in his books.
Eh, I have read somewhere that Bran becoming a king is Martin's idea, out of all shitty things we have seen in season 7 and 8. Which...makes me kind of bothered cause it sounds so incredibly stupid. Either Martin comes up with an amazing way of tying it all together to make Bran the king of Westeros...if he actually still plans on finishing it...or it will be just as stupid as in the show.
As a fan that got introduced to ASOIAF through Game of Thrones, and who loves the show as a whole.... this list was on point. I agree with literally every point you made here. 🎯 It makes me feel better about having these same massive complaints with the show. Thanks for the video!
Season 5 and 6 were already starting to go off the rails, but they had their moments. Season 7 was bad. Season 8 was Wiping-a-pop-cultural-juggernaut-from-pop-culture bad. Dumb and Dumber nuked this generations version of Star Wars from space.
To be fair, The Red Woman did have one of the best scenes in season 6 with Ramsay grieving for Myranda, maybe not enough to render it the best episode of the season (looking at you Glidus) but it does add a few points.
I love about s8 ep3 where Jon say, ,,we cant beat them in straight fight,, but then proceeds to put dothraki in front line without any means to kill wights, nobody expected melissandre or her giving flaming weapons to them which basically means they were about to throw away their units like russian suicide battalions
thanks for shouting out S5 & S6. when i first watched GoT, only 6 seasons were available and i was highly impressed by all of them, especially with the high note S6E10 left on (cersei blowing up the sept & arya killing frey). then S7 & S8 were complete disasters for me, so i couldn't quite grasp why true fans claimed the writing got bad even earlier (post S4). the way they diminished littlefinger's character is a hate crime, and i see it now. it's such a shame though that D&D couldn't come up with something on par with the theories i saw online, they're always 100x better than what we got in the end. i'm not sure if i'll ever be able to rewatch the show knowing the bad quality, but who knows? maybe i'll finally read the books. here's to hope GRRM actually finishes them, like during my lifetime lol.
I think George just wanted to give Hollywood the ball so they could utterly drop it. He had a problem cause he wanted more promotion but he didn’t want to spoil the story. So he solved that problem the way any noseless time traveling gnome would have. Bran might sit the Iron Throne. But we all know it’s really Bloodraven, the sorcerer! The pale bird, with bloody beak, perched on King Aerys’ shoulder, cawing in his ear! The mark of hell is on his face and in his empty eye!
I was rewatching got and I caught myself hoping that it might end differently this time,but it's always the same fucking disappointment. Its even more visible when you binge the show in a couple months , when your memories of the first seasons are still fresh
I’m glad they improved a lot in house of the dragon. If D&D wrote it they would’ve had the 2 SA scenes put in and about 10 sex scenes. I’m glad the SA was done off screen we really don’t need to see it to get the message
They had no involvement in the new prequel, and a lot of their sycophants from the writing team also left with them, so that explains the better quality of the new show
I'm not surprised to see season 6 on here. I felt that the show started it's downward spiral as early as season 5. Once they ran out of book material and removed some book plot lines they lost the quality. But season 5 was also the time I feel like the show caught on with masses of viewers and it's popularity didn't suffer until season 7.
The ending was bad because all the good endings were already predicted by fans and DnD are just too arrogant and picked an unexpected ending even if it was bad.
“Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?” LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE IN THAT COUNCIL MEETING.
Exactly, even Sam with his ridiculous plot armor had a better story
Even Robert Arryn
Even that unnamed extra who I guess is the new ruler of Dorne has a better storyline than Bran
"For the people" idiot. One should think of seeing the scene, understanding the scene, before thinking of making fun of it.
To be fair, they could have made Gendry the King and it would have made more sense than Bran, a bastard becoming a king is the best "story" they could have had.
"and who has a story better than bran the broken" continues to ring in my head to this day.
Omg same. Two friends of mine and I were in a call watching it together, and while we‘ve all been roasting the episode all along, that actually made us scream. One of my buddies quit because of it lol
Gary Oldman: EEEEEEVERYOOOONNNNE!
His story was so good they had to leave it out of an entire season because it would’ve just overshadowed everything else that season…Actually thinking about season 5 that could’ve been the case.
Worst part about this isn't even that Bran had the worst story.... WHO TF PICKS THE RULER OF THE 7 KINGDOMS BASED ON THEIR STORY? 😭 😭 😭 😭 D&D is so fitting for dumb n dumbass 💀
I felt like i was being gaslighted in that scene
Euron in the books:
"Who knows more of gods than I? Horse gods and fire gods, gods made of gold with gemstone eyes, gods carved of cedar wood, gods chiseled into mountains, gods of empty air... I know them all. I have seen their peoples garland them with flowers, and shed the blood of goats and bulls and children in their names. And I have heard the prayers, in half a hundred tongues. Cure my withered leg! Make the maiden love me! Grant me a healthy son! Save me, succor me, make me wealthy! Protect me! Protect me from mine enemies, protect me from the darkness, protect me from the crabs inside my belly, from the horselords, from the slavers, from the sellswords at my door! Protect me from the Silence." He laughed. "Godless? Why, Aeron, I am the godliest man ever to raise sail! You serve one god, but I have served ten thousand. From Ib to Asshai, when men see my sails, they pray."
Euron in the show: FINGER IN THE BUM
😫 I just can't
Great scene from the books, one of my favourites. How naive i was, waiting for them to depict Euron as he is in the books and was waiting to see this scene. How utterly disappointing.
That "he laughed" is such a good choice right there.
They really made a terrifying mystic psycho into a simp
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Edit: Yes I borrowed that line from Lindsay Ellis' takedown video, I don't care. She borrowed from "Gay of Thrones" so it evens out.
Varys coughing on the beach was really the highlight of Season 8.
Yes yes indeed 👌
It's a whole mood
That meme always makes me laugh 😂
never fails to make me laugh myself to tears
@@morgenzon69Glad it’s not just me
Arya killing the Night King is like if Chewbacca came out of nowhere and kills Darth Vader in ROJ.
No, it's like Arya killing the NK, a cult scene, for the real fans.
@@qwsa283 It's not badly written, you didn't understand GoT.
@@Batist13 Nk didn't hesitate to kill anyone besides maybe Jon snow. He killed Theon and broke his spear literally shows that he has superhuman strength. Why did he take his time to stare at her? He would've/could've just crush her skull or snap her throat and get on with three eyed reven's death. Most realistic situation. And what was point of Jon's character? To kill Dany? What was the purpose of the "Prophecy"? It was obvious that he was Nk's rival since the 1st season. Arya literally had no business in Nk' fate nor in Jon'. Arya "assasin" flying to kill Nk was entirely nonsense. And don't even start with misogyny or some sort of that bs when whole season was about 2 woman fighting for Iron throne.
@@noobsaibot0622 Arya who flies... after the cup of Starbucks or the Long Night too dark. Don't you want to stop inventing anything to justify your hatred and your misunderstanding of the end of GoT ?
Arya has nothing to do with the god of death. Please, let's be serious.
@@Batist13 The amount of copium being huffed in this comment is unfathomable. Take it easy, guy.
Cersei blowing up the great sept and not facing any consequences was beyond stupid. The common people in Kings Landing would rush into the Red Keep and drag her out even if a thousand died in the process.
"The residents of King's Landing kind of forgot about Cersei blowing up the most sacred place in their religion"
I didn't mind it to be honest. I figured they would be too afraid of her at this point to do anything, especially after their leader died.
I dont even remember how it happened, but didnt she go from "Shame. Shame. Shame." to their ruler without actually doing anything but that?
even if 10000 died.There was 500K people in Kings landing.
Killing most of a house, destroying the great sept and likely hundreds or thousands of civilians, only a couple of years after her son the king was mocked and attacked in the streets for his behaviour, and then everyone in the whole city (bar Jaime) forgetting it two weeks later in season 7.
unbelievably horrid writing indeed
I hated what they did to Tyrion and Aria the last couple seasons, but I consider the way they killed Littlefinger and Varys the biggest crimes of all. The most devious and conniving man in Westeros would not be killed by the Scooby-Doo gang, and there's NO way Varys would allow Tyrion to betray him, he would have sniffed it out and disappeared. I don't think Olenna needed to die, but at least they let her go out like a boss.
Varys death was bullshit. He was the master of whisperers for a reason. And littlefinger went out like a bitch. Littlefinger was stupid to think that he was safe going back after what he pulled...and Varys didn't like Danny to begin with...none of it makes sense
scooby doo gang 😭😭😭
THAT'S what pissed you off..!? Ffs what priorities..
Na! No matter how they killed littlefinger, it felt good. Except you mean he deserved a more horrific death. Varys, I hate but yayyyy to littlefinger’s.
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He was playing the game really well and got screwed by some scrubs. Thats the issue. Him dying is of course well deserved after betraying Ned. But, for instance, Joffreys was much better reasoned and was even more satisfying because of that because it didnt feel cheap.
I still can't stop laughing at Jon yelling to Gendry "You're the fastest!". Because his head is shaved? He's more aerodynamic? He's the youngest? Literally so stupid.
And Gendry - who had never seen snow before - runs through the true north - where he had never been - and makes it to Eastwatch.
P.S. Jon and Dany's dragon joyride made me feel physically ill. Such a monumental moment reduced to a fucking awkward date. I hate it. So fucking much. That was definitely one of the lowest points of the show for me.
Maybe just that Gendry is the youngest, so potentially the fastest and potentially the one who should outlast the old guys if there was a problem.
It's frankly very simple to understand, you are really crazy haters.
Don't get your point about gendry, might be just a fact that he's the fastest. But I get it that he doesn't know snow.
It's not just that he's the fastest; he also has the best endurance. You know, from the several years he spent rowing.
Maybe (MAYBE) Jon simply wanted Gendry, as the youngest, to survive. He knew he couldn't have said it directly, because Gendry would've refused to leave them to die, so he invented the "you're fastest" excuse.
@@Alknix I don't know why, but that just made me start laughing again haha
Dude I'm still quite impressed you could make a list of 10 worst episodes just considering that S7 and S8 having 13 episodes themselves.
Season 5 and 6 have some shitty ass episodes as well.
@@joseceniceros1928 certainly. That's why it's even more impressive that he was able to skip some S7 S8 episodes from the worst episode list
Don't underestimate how shit seasons 5 and 6 can be..
@@Al-ji4gd it bothers me when people only point to season 8 when talking about the bad writting. It's been there since season 5. As soon as they run out of material they fucked it up
@@joseceniceros1928 Exactly, man. The cracks were there as early as season 2, in my opinion. They plastered over them with some compelling storylines, good acting and memorable moments, which made seasons 3 & 4 great seasons of TV. After season 4, though, there was no hiding it anymore. The signs were already there, it just took people a while to see them because they were so enamored with the show.
the fact that there were hundreds of noblemen and lords present during the petition for the heir of Driftmark in HOTD and only like 10 to decide who's gonna become the next heir to the iron throne, the next King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men", and the Protector of the Realm, shows how even more awful that ending was
I think it could make sense in a way that since in the books a lot of houses died due to the War of Five Kings, and even more later on. But 10 is pathetic
@@steffanyschwartz7801 "a lot of" is quite the overstatement. Here's the full list: House Hollard, House Darry, House Whent (probably, though not 100% confirmed), House Caron (alive through Ser Rolland Storm and possibly Bryce's kids), House Rambton (vassals to the irrelevant House Sunglass; possibly extinct but could also be alive). Most houses are well as of the books. As for the show, houses Bolton, Karstark, Umber, Mormont, Frey, Whent, Hollard, Tyrell, Tarly, Martell might be extinct.
@@bierwolf8360 As I said, Tywins war in the Riverlands, Red Wedding, Battle of Blackwater, and a few other book battles destroyed a lot of houses
@@steffanyschwartz7801 such as? There's no houses named nor is it really all that likely. For a house to be wiped out, all male members would have to be killed. It gets wonky when considering the females (as then it is almost impossible to go extinct). The red wedding saw a lot nobles killed but it was largely only representatives from houses (usually in form of the head of house) plus personal companions. As for the battle of the Blackwater, some nobles will have died too (a ridiculous amount of Fossoways did as an example) but that's never gonna be all. There'll be the boys too young for war, the uncles and cousins and nephews that were busy elsewhere. The Riverlands raiding did extinguish at least the Darrys and possibly the Whents. But we know the Brackens, Blackwoods, Vances, Pipers, Mallisters, etc are still fine. That's most the Riverlands still alive. If you want to make a point, give details
@@steffanyschwartz7801 no robb starks campaign didn't result in the extinction of that many houses. Only houses darry and whent (presumably) went extinct. Most houses just had to give up hostages or lost 1 member IE house manderly who lost Wendel (i think it was wendel anyway) and Wylis was a prisoner whilst wyman and his granddaughters are fine.
This show is like a person who went served both WW, survived the Great Depression and the Spanish flu, and dies by slipping on a banana peel
This actually happens but replace the banana peel with polio
@@falconeshieldbrutal lol
The worst thing in all of S8 for me was Rhaegal‘s death. Like..after Viserion got done so unbelievably dirty just so the night king could have a cool dragon mount was already hard, but Rhaegal‘s death just broke me. From it canonically not making any sense (Dany kinda forgetting abt the iron fleet) to the death itself just feeling empty and only there for shock value. Also Jon never acknowledging the death of his dragon whom he shared a close mental bond with (according to Fire&Blood) was straight up horrible.
I kinda disagree with Viserion, because even the big ballista was shown to not be very effective against Drogon, and the dragons were presented as the ultimate weapon against the army of the dead. I think showing that even the dragon aren't safe from the Night King's power serve as a way to "even up the scales"
@@smilingman4299 I do like this idea.. but his manner of death just seemed so comical. With the olypmic spear throw and all. I understand the night king is this legendary creature but really? They couldn’t come up with something better than that?
@@getolde7966 that's fair
The death of Viserion was at least KINDA understandable with the explanation being "powerful magical ice zombie killing him"... but what they did with Rhaegal was absurd. Not only did Daenerys conveniently forget about the iron fleet but Euron turned into a perfect marksman for this one moment and SOMEHOW managed to hit Rhaegal directly through the neck despite him being a moving target and the ballista - obviously - firing in some arc, it's not like it was a gun or anything like that. If they needed Rhaegal dead, he should've died taking on undead Viserion. It'd make FAR more sense and if he took Viserion down with him, it'd give his death some meaning.
The added insult here was that several thousand pound huge dragon Rhaegal couldn't carry little 170 pound Jon Snow to KL because Rhaegal needed to heal. When in reality it was so they didn't have to try to figure out how Jon could survive the fall
The thing about season 7 is that so many things that the audience wanted to see so bad (jon & dany meeting, tyrion & cersei reunion, sequence in beyond the wall, etc.) actually happens, but it is not effective at all. People expected these moments for a long time but when it happened, well, it had horrible writing, had no consequence, out of character moments.
What it did do was delay the general audience from hating the season. It wasn’t until the last half of season 8 where there was nothing left to disguise the poor writing & pacing
or major moments that did happen but they decided just not to show it for whatever reason for example when john told his family about his true name, right when they get to that moment its like they just cut the scene out for no reason???
Cleganebowl was the same, at least for me personally. In spite of all of the hype, it was so poorly executed that it didn't really leave a lasting impression
@@Datboy1991 for me the fight was good enough, its just the constant cutting away is what ruined the pacing for me
@@harold926 I meant in terms of the story leading up to the fight. So much of the Hound's story in seasons 6 and 7 was letting go of the revenge tour and fighting for a cause, then they kill the NK and he's just like "Welp, that's done. Time to go on a suicide mission to kill my brother"
For me the long night will always be the worst episode. I remember that day , changing so many sites because I thought the brightness was messed up and that moment that Arya stabbed the night king I felt real physical pain as if I had been stabbed. I was in such disbilief arguing on the internet that "there is no way this is how the white walkers go, Bran was warging something the whole time maybe that explains things, surely everything will make sense in episode 4". So so sad.
Yep. And Bran literally doing fucking _nothing_ except warging some ravens...for no reason. Legit just cuz. Faaaark.
I expected it to be bad, but on the other hand, that episode also had 1 good character sendoff (Jorah Mormont), which coincidentally also is the only good thing in the episode. I think that propelled it ahead of the later episodes, which don't really have any good things.
Agreed! Although I did feel like the opening scenes were well done, with the tension building as you saw everyone getting into place. But for me, Melisandre lighting the Dothraki blades is the last cool moment of the series so I like to pretend that's the end.
I remember being in denial when the scripts were leaked....I was like "no way". And gradually I came to the realization that the leaked scripts were hundred percent accurate. Even up to the very last episode I was like this can't be right...
Idk but arya killing the night king is still amazing and her stealth kills pays off at an amazing moment saving her home But obviously the most Disturbing thing is we didn't got to see a Combat between the Night King and Jon snow as both were amazing characters presented there
Not a single one from seasons 1-4, that should tell you enough about who was doing the real writing.
First 4 seasons of GoT are unbeatable. And very rewatchable.
Those 40 episodes are painfully perfect. Literally not a single significant flaw.
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Unnecessary nudity is one
Cringy as heck
@@huzzzer6083 Jaime raping Cersei was pretty bad
@@huzzzer6083 Well, Yara's attempted rescue of Theon in season 4 was atrocious, Jaime raping Cersei and Theon's arc in season 2 was watered down due to Ramsay being cut.
The only way the spin-off “Snow” succeeds is if Jon wakes up at the end of season 6 and realizes all of season 7 and 8 were a dream 😭😭😭😭
Shut up and take my money!
Like the old Bob Newhart show 😂😂😂
As far as im concerned season 7 and 8 were a dream.
The change in quality was soo big it was a different show.
Hoped Martin will get the books finished and we can have a good end
They say every time D&D write a script, the gods toss a coin.
Every time the Disney public is faced with cinema too.
Legendary comment.
Mediocre comment, mediocre video.
@@Batist13 First fan of season 8.
A two sided one. Both shite
i am re-watching the series again for the first time since the finale. I just finished season 3. Its soo good... It hurts knowing where the show ends up.
Just stop after season 4, plus hardhome if you want. Pretend the rest doesn't exist, and the show will be much improved.
I would recommend Watching seasons 1-6 completely. However, if you’re ok stopping in middle of a season I would recommend stopping about halfway through season 7. Despite what many people say season 7 did have great moments that are really worth seeing on the screen.
I'm up to S08 E04, also on my first rewatch since 2019...it's so painful.
I made the same mistake. Second time viewing is even worse than the first exactly because you know how shit the ending is
@@abadyr_ do you mean to skip the "winds of winter" episode too which was good
The best part is when Tyrion lamely says "There's nothing in the world more powerful than a good story." and then you think "That may be so, but GoT season 8 is not a good story at all, and neither was Bran's story"
The Dragon and the Wolf (S7E7) may not be the worst one but I'll always hate it. A useless council meeting and the pathetic death Littlefinger.
It's only saved by Jaime's scene with Cersei at the end but that's subsequently ruined in S8.
littlefinger death was stupid asf. like wtf did he really think sansa was going to kill her own sister??
my hbomax glitched and skipped this episode. I went straight from e6 to e8 and I didnt notice at all I skipped an episode until days later. That's how irrelevant this episode is
@@jordansdead88 there is no season 7 epsode 8
I was pissed Cersei didn't die more violently.
@@jordansdead88 season 7 doesn't have 8 episodes. It only has 7 so how could you skip from 6 to 8 when there is no 8? Did you go into season 8, is that what you mean? And if so, how could you not have noticed that a new season began without a finale?
I love this intro. Everyone of us who loved this show and was invested in it knows your pain and misery and we all share this burden together. The wound will never heal
Once again realising that if they’d just moved the death of Rhaegal to The Bells Daenerys’s sudden descent into vengeful madness wouldn’t have felt anything like as contrived.
They also could’ve used Beyond the Wall as an opportunity to demonstrate how much Daenerys’s dragons mean to her, how she truly regards them as her children and how deeply losing one of them affects her…but nope!
Yup also have Jon riding Rhaegal so she thinks he dies too (though unlike Rhaegal he ends up surviving).
@@NoahRankin59It still doesn't make sense. Go straight to Cersi to burn the red keep. No need to bully the small folk that aren't behind the anti dragon bolts.
Loses one of her children, stares blankly. But oh no, she's not leaving the Wall and waits there super concerned until she sees any sign of Jon Snow, b/c she got the hots for him now.
I agree the scene with tyrion and the pirates is bad but "the dwarf lives until we find a proper cock merchant" makes me laugh so much
Yeah, that's the only thing in the video that I disagree, it's a rare good cock joke.
The whole Stannis/Shireen fiasco is where the show died for me (hence my username). The show started nosediving once Tywin died but Stannis' character assassination was the final nail in the coffin. By the time seasons 7 and 8 arrived all I could do was laugh, I'd reached acceptance and it was nearly enjoyable watching how much of a farce the show had become.
Yeah ngl I felt vindicated after having been saying since the Stannis/Shireen thing that the show was bad
Tywin. Things went south after Tywin was killed.
The death of Littlefinger probably angered me the most out of any scene in the series. I almost didn’t finish the series over it.
Believe me, if you didn't watch more at all, then you saved yourself from a tonne of further bullwank 🤮🤮
I didn’t watch a single episode after that no lie. Was a disgrace.
How did u wanted him to die?
And of course it's Arya that kills him 🙄.
@@tacitus6384 had to make her feel important 😂
Danny being turned into a tyrant could have been a good storyline if they put any effort into it. Infact that actually go against it throughout the entire show. In the books its actually gonna happen and they have been building up to it from the beginning. Danny isnt a messiah saviour in the books, she's in inexperience little girl who is targaryen red pilled and leaves a burning fire every city she visits. But in the show they build her up to be this absolute god empress, when GRRM clearly shows how targ thinking they are closer to gods than men is hubris. The danny build up needed a long time, not 3 episodes.
Exactly, there are idiots still claiming "Oh, but it foreshadowed in previous episodes". No, freaking way, in no point it foreshadowed Danny will be a mass murderer. That story should have to be build up. Show always depicted her as a savior and she actually is, without her Night King would have destroyed entire Westeros.
The funny thing is that the series also has certain elements why Danny changes but it's portrayed completely badly and wrongly.
She says herself to Tyrion that she loses something every time she listens to her 'advisers'.
She loses her dothrakis. But then not because they need an army in the end.
She loses two dragons. She loses her best friend, she loses battles and her fleet, and in the end she learns that there is a legitimate successor to the crown who is loved by many in Westeros and fears that she still has her claim to the throne loses and even helped him get that far several times.
If all of this was well written and would have had the time to expand and build it up, it would have made complete sense for Danny to stop listening to anyone and use violence and fear to take what she believes is her due.
@@nemesis3587 The books forshadow it but the show really doesn't
The books don't foreshadow it neither. On the reverse, Danny is not a strong headed leader like she is portrayed in the show, but a naive, sensible little girl trying to act brave and cunning. She is afraid and conscious of everything, she has a crush on his pretty mercenary and trust to people so easily. I don't see this girl becoming a tyrant neither.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459 Dany reminds me of a young aerys targaryen. When aerys first ascended the throne, he wanted his people to prosper. He wanted to be known as "aerys the great" or "aerys the wise". When the bravosi tried to collect their debts he wanted to invade bravos and "bring the titan to kneel". He ended up being used by lords great and small to rise to power due to him being easy to manipulate. If it wasn't for tywin Lannister a rebellion would've happened long before the war of the usurper. Dany'ss afraid of everything but certainly not conscious. If she does beome a tyrant she won't be a cunning leader who manipulates her people. She'll be a crazy bitch just like her father
That line about how Arya killing the Night King doesn’t utilise any of her established assassin abilities made me picture a version of the scene where just as TNK is about to kill Bran, he out of nowhere stands up and stabs him before pulling his face off and revealing it was Arya and their plan to trick and get close to TNK.
So thanks for that hilarious image.
Genuinely think that would’ve been better as at least it involves some amount of setup, an actual twist and implies that our heroes actually went into the battle with some kind of plan beyond “hope we win this battle”
That would've been a good idea only if it were possible. The problem is that the night king knows where bran is since he left his mark on him. If it was Arya pretending to be bran, though she'd look like him, she wouldn't suddenly have the same mark. The night king would just walk straight to the real bran wherever he'd be without taking a single glance at Arya.
@@Banaenaedeer Easy, cut to Bran tied to the tree branch above them with some rope!
One of the issues for me is they totally forgot the prince that was promised prophecy. Arya just seems like a random choice. Maybe it's just me but it felt too Mary Sue.
@@Banaenaedeer true, but this would have been a much more valid criticism had the show been remotely clear about what the mark means or how it works
@@deannas2778 honestly, I much prefer a version of the story where prophecies don’t mean shit
My favourite interpretation of prophecy in fiction is the whole “one meets their destiny on the road they take to avoid it” moral, where the character makes the thing happen by trying to prevent it…Kung Fu Panda/Red Dwarf Future Echoes style 😂
I like that you pointed out how bad a decision it is to have the nobles choose the king. Everyone was like "Yay democracy!" That's not democracy. The best case scenario you have is an oligarchy that chooses the king that would be the least threatening to them and the likeliest scenario is a bloody civil war after Bran dies. It's unlikely he will have children, and all the nobles are going to want to be king and have loyal followers to fight for them. Think 3rd century Rome.
Actually, this is a elective monarchy. It usually don’t work very well.
@@myaccount4699Ask the citizen King
No matter what trash Season 8 has to offer, to me Beyond the Wall is still the worst episode ever. There's so much plot armor, the whole "capture a zombie" is a pointless, braindead suicide mission. And the fact that Gendry ran to the Wall, a raven went to Dragonstone and then Dany flew beyond the wall which should take a week AT LEAST, while Jon and his crew sat in the middle of a frozen lake is shocking, and not in a good way. Not to mention the pointless conflict between Arya and Sansa. Season 7 was mediocre/bad to this point, Ep6 is just complete trash. The ONLY saving parts would be some dialogue scenes between Jon and his crew, like his talk with Jorah. But some of them are still tainted with cock jokes, because that's comedy today.
The funny thing is that that idea IS in the books, but it is almost on the background. The Night Watch sends Allister Thorne to Kings Landing with the frozen hand of an Other (White Walker in the series) as a proof that something weird its going on (after Lord Commander Mormont is attacked and almost killed by some ice zombies in his own bedroom) and to ask for more men to fight on the Wall; but by the time he's in front of the Lannisters to ask for help, the hand is melted and is so gross to watch (or something like that). Tywin laughs at the request and Thorne is send back to the Wall without help.
So D&D took that idea but they didn't read the book very well because in the show, that episode has so many flaws is beyond stupid... And by the time the whole gang arrived in KL to show the thing to Cersei, it wouldn't have mattered at all because the White Walker should have been melted or at least more decomposed. They just didn't read well enough Martin's books and they bend time and space in Westeros to their convenience in the series. Without George's writing, the show became an awful shitshow that makes me want to cry even to this day...
And the Hound throws a fucking rock at the Army of the Dead, who had up until that point been stagnant in their attempts to attack the group 🤦♀️ But why. But how.
@@CatLady1989 Actually, that is in the show as well but it's only mentioned and not shown. I think it's in season 2. Commander Mormont sends Alliser Thorne with the wight hand to King's Landing but they never mention what became of it. Alliser simply returns to the Wall by season 3.
Same its the worst and most absurd
But atleast it is watchablle than watching just boring dialog in season 5-6
S6e1 is a great shout for this list. I started rewatching GOT last month and when it got to 5 I noticed the visible drop off, but it was this episode where I now notice how bad the plot armour is and lack of reality in the show anymore.
GoT jumped the shark when they killed Stannis.
Brienne's "dilemma" was pointless, and I'm pretty sure it marks the first time a character faced no consequences at all for (what should have been) a weighty decision. Sansa should have been FURIOUS with Brienne since she not only left her post but did so to murder the man who was trying to liberate the North from the Boltons.
Tbf season 5 still has elements from the books but is mainly based on the feast for the crows, worst book in the series imo. After the death of Tywin everything just drops, even in the books, although dance with dragons is good.
@@djole93podbara yeh I know some of the storylines are similar to the books, and I get that a lot of season 1-4 was edited from how it was in the books too.
I think the point about Tywin is so true and I’ve heard people say the same about the books. Ultimately he was the most overt antagonist and arguably one of the most influential people in Westeros so it was massive him dying. I think this is why GRRM is taking so long with the books too, as he built up such a complex universe and story that actually killing off well built up characters in a way that doesn’t cause a decline in quality is so tricky.
@@maxpatterson1699 yep, I agree. I m just hopping Martin finnishes the series.
Btw I have to say that storylines are basically the same in the books and series up until season 5 when they start to "part ways" mostly. For example Stannis is alive, John is dead, Sansa is in the Vale, Catelyn is "alive" but Arya is in Bravos with the assasins.
@@djole93podbara yeh there’s similarities but the stories do change a bit. Stannis frees lots of northern lords to rally their men, Baelish faces a plot from the e vale lords whilst Sansa is under a fake identity. I’d say that although the stories are similar there is massive differences. The worst difference I think there is from the book is the way euron is written, he is such an interesting character that could have such an impact in the book
What offends me was that I was captivated by this programme from S1 E1. This was the greatest show I have ever seen, with the greatest characters ever written. Then, it's as if Tyrion left his brain in Kings Landing. I think I spent the last two series, going, "Shut up, Jon!" My group of favourite characters were just assassinated by crap writing.
I used to recommend GOT to everyone, now I just can't be arsed.
It's sad, because everyone else worked so hard. Apart from how dark it was on the long good night, the CGI was great, the production was great, the actors tried the best and the soundtrack by Ramin Djawadi was outstanding.
I vividly remember watching the last episode, hearing Tyron talking about stories and thinking, well maybe Bran would be the king because he knows all the stories, so alright, i can get behind that. Then Tyron said "who has a better story than Bran the Broken" and I feel a level of cringe that I has never felt since then
You are underestimating how many "normies" found this show amazing because they just consume without stopping for even a second to think what just happen in each episode.
There is this girl that I work with, she's maybe 21-22, and she has just recently binged the entire show and she was mind-blown even with season 8. In her mind, the prisoner of war (Tyrion) deciding what council of nobleman should do and him picking the new high king was perfectly fine. That's just an example. She was fine with everything as long as Jon Snow was alive, because "he's hot".
I don't know, maybe it's because she binged the entire series in like couple of days so she didn't really have time to reflect on it, so Jon's character remained "the same" to her, while we can all agree that entirety of Jon's character in season 8 was "she is muah qvin!"
The moment this show turned its back on us and focused on the “bar watchers” is when it really died. If your show can be watched and understood in a loud bar, you’re doing something wrong.
Yep I can confirm this with ppl I've known who started watching after the rush. They said they loved it all. I asked "even season 8?" Yep, amazing to them. So I wonder if they actually watched it, or they just are saying they liked it because the rest of the crowd used to talk about it, and they knew it had clout.
@@justinhamilton8647Yeah the moment the show runners cared more about the water cooler talkers than the story followers is when it all went bad
To add to "The Long Night"; once they eventually get the trench lit, they immediately cut to Jon just chillin on the wall of Winterfell... sitting on a fire breathing dragon... right next to the trench. Apparently he just sat there, watching dozens of men get mowed down while they tried to get it lit.. Maybe he was busy thinking about how he didn't want it.
He was busy thinking about how Dany is his queen
Dany didn't teach him the magic word; "Dracarys!" 😆
Unbowed, Unbent and Unbroken was when I knew the show was in the toilet. Then "No One" confirmed it as bad fanfiction. The show died with Tywin and were still waiting for season 5.
Maybe in 10 years they will remake the show and gives us a proper ending....
When a Starbucks cup shows up in one of the episodes. That just shows how little care the creators put into season 8
When your best argument for destroying a season is a cup of Starbucks, there's not much else. It is easy to deduce that the end is very good.
Genuinely as someone who watched seasons 1-4 how can you even think season 8 isn’t objectively terrible?
@@dtczyk8976 Because precisely that makes sense with all the seasons.
I know season 8 has even worse plot lines but the one that annoys me the most to this day is Littlefinger in season 7. They literally turned the most cunning and imo best player of the game of thrones into a goofy scooby doo villain. He also gets like 5 different warnings that he's in danger and choses to ignore all of them. The worst part is, that early on in the season, he actually gives some good advice to Sansa, about how one should always consider every possibility at all times. "Everyone is your enemy. Everyone is your friend. Fight every battle, everywhere, always in your mind." And then he just ignores his own advice lol. Like you are seriously telling me that he did not consider the possibility that his plan (which was stupid anyway) to turn Sansa against Arya failed?? That plan had like only two realistic outcomes anyway, either they turn on each other and Littlefinger wins or they find out what's going on and Littlefinger loses. Damn bro, guess he just didn't think of the possibilty that his plan could fail, AFTER BRAN LITERALLY REVEALED HIS POWERS TO HIM!!!! It's so fucking dumb...
Bigger plot hole...why the heck was littlefinger trying to turn Sansa against Arya! For what conceivable reason! 😅
Wouldn’t Littlefinger have realized how utterly screwed he was, upon learning about Bran’s abilities, thus being forced to eliminate Bran immediately, and wouldn’t Bran have realized this all too well to be revealing his abilities like this in the first place? (It could otherwise have been interesting to see the master schemer endeavoring to outscheme the all-seeing eye…)
@@Xhermit3 exactly
Not to mention that in 'Beyond the Wall' there are only named characters on the quest but when they needed someone to die, there was a random extra actor joining them lol.
Seeing Petyr being nerfed in the later seasons makes my heart ache. And the deaths of him and Varys make it worst.
Considering Varys might be a blackfire in disguise (the merman theory is cute but we never meet actual mermen) with the young Griff plot line making more sense, him going against Dany outta the blue in the show when Griff was cut was painful af
they literally just needed one more season showing how she conquers the rest of the world including winterfell and slowly slipping into madness to at least try to justify her whole mad queen era arc
Exactly. The problem isn't that she went mad (especially when you remember this will happen in the books, too), it's the lack of development and how quickly they rushed to it happening.
No, you didn't understand Daenerys.
@@Batist13 Quite right, when she has the means to defeat her enemies in less than 10 minutes with no civilian casualties at the start of season 7 and then chooses not to, I certainly didn't understand her.
@@thomaslynch5313 She was still listening to Tyrion at the start of Season 7.
@@Batist13 You're referring to when Tyrion convinces Dany not to go through with just killing his sister and ending the war in less than a day and instead tells her to enact a siege to humanely starve out the peasants living in KL?
This is another youtube video to prove that a show with such an outstanding story at such an absolutely enormous level getting ruined will never ever be forgotten by the fans. David and Dan shall forever be shamed for their decision for years and years to come.
Hearing you say “almost every aspect of this episode sucks ass” in your calm voice is comical to me. Thanks for the content and laughs!
The last time D&D proved, they can be competent writers was in the season 6 finale. There we get to see the battle between ned and his group and Arthur Dayne and Gerold Hightower. The scene where Lyanna says,"Promise me Ned" was really emotional
Both young Ned and Lyanna did amazing in that scene
And not to mention the starting scenes of the episode, which contains one of the best scenes in GoT.
Many would say the show died with Tywin and Oberyn but according to me, the show died with Margaery and Lyanna.
Even then, that scene at the Tower of Joy is basically ripped straight from Ned’s dreams/memories in the first book.
@@warlordofbritannia but not fully. Jon's parentage wasn't revealed there.
Dany won the war with one fucking dragon. Remember when she had three and a whole ass army but yet still bitched about gain more forces
Supercuts: uploads the video
Me, having not even watched it yet: this is where the fun begins!
"Do cock merchants even exist?" Now there's a brand new sentence.
One time I overdosed from heroin laced with fentanyl twice in one day and died and was brought back to life. Afterwards I felt like I never drank water in my entire life but the nurses would not allow me to drink water for the first 30 mins because it can cause issues. I’d rather go through that but except wait 24 hrs to drink water than rewatch the finale of GoT…..ferociously HORRENDOUS
Also, I wonder how Obara and Nymeria even got to Trystane. I'm not wrong in saying that they were at the harbor with Ellaria at the end of Season 5, right? So, if they were there, then how did they just sail all the way to King's Landing, kill Trystane, and then sail all the way back to Dorne? I guess if you wanted to, you could assume that some time had passed, and they took a ship themselves to chase after Jaime, but it just seems like that requires overlooking a lot, too.
Yep, they _were_ at the docks. Fucking ludicrous
Is that Queen Alicent theme song in the background?? OMG!!!
Season 8, Episode 5 "The Bells" was by far the worst one. Unbrearable. I remember I wanted to stop watching it. NOTHING AT ALL made sense.
The Bells, best episode of the whole saga. Obviously.
But don't you see? It makes sense for Greyworm: after her death, Greyworm leaves the unsullied, found our world, took up the name of Louis in 1900s New Orleans when he finds his new boyfriend: a bisexual French vampire named Lestat.
Total sense
Is it the same actor?
Well you know Danny sort of forgot about the Iron Fleet and Eurons forces 😂😂😂
„Sometimes doing nothing is the hardest thing to do. And who has done less than Bran the useless?“
Would still make more sense than what we got.
I’ll never forget when I saw Arya kill the Night King. My brother was screaming “yeah get it girl” and I was like “huh??” It was like all the build up was just destroyed right then and there.
Lmao
One of things of bother me about the Long Night and the Bells is the armies. The Unsullied, Dorthkai, Night's Watch, and Northmens lost at least 5,000 or more troops in the Long Night, yet they're able to mount an assault on a fully fortited King's Landing with (presumably), way more infantry arms than them? That makes zero sense. Remember when the Kastarks left Robb and he had to go to Frey to recruit his forces to attack Cassidy Rock? If he didn't have the manpower to just attack a much weaker King Landing after losing almost half his men, why does Dany and Jon have enough men, supplies, open supply lines, and armaments to attack a stronger King's Landing when they just survived an attack from the dead? I guess Dany and Jon's army have respawning abilities.
Agreed, kinda looked like the Dorthkai got wiped out in that episode. Not to mention standing in front of ur siege engines and fortifying a trench and then standing in front of it??? That episode was such a let down for what had been building up for so long
Last two season was a shit storm hard to top them but Season 6's first episode is good choice. Making a coup was so difficult in earlier episodes but it suddenly became so easy and without consequences. It just showed how story has no direction. My personel worst episode choice is Ramsey's 20 good men and Stannis burning his daughter (I don't remember it was same episode or next to each other). It was that episode I realised writing getting bad.
Same for me. When Ramsay said "give me 20 good men" I was exicted and anxious about what they were up to. But their sabotage action happened off camera. Which was really lazy.
I can laugh my way through a rewatch, even in seasons 7 and 8. But the last episode makes me straight up angry every time. I think I just saw it once without interrupting and ranting about it, even though i´m alone
Totally agree. I can still watch (though I have to skip boring/annoying/pointless scenes) during the last two seasons, but I literally can’t bring myself to watch that last episode for a second time ever again. Probably forever.
Tyrion's monologue about the power of stories was so boring and miserable. Everything about the finale was just misery to sit through
Just the way Tyrion spoke in the last season was infuriating. I don't know how to explain it but he just sounded different and annoying.
For me the last of the starks is the worst, I mean :
-cersei NOT killing tyrion
-death of her dragon
-dany forgots about iron fleet and iron fleet dont manage to kilka drogon
-I think cersei might even try to kill (with Scorpions ) deanerys, drogon, Varys, Tyrion etc. But this is just my thought :), so tells me if I'am wrong
2 - iron Throne
3 - long might
4 - winterfell
5 - Beyonce the wall
And they cut away from Jon revealing his true parentage to his family. Fuck.
I don't think you understood Daenerys.
Cersei did not kill Because she afraid if she was killed by the dragon-my logic
It's really poetic how you started the list with the episode where they finally ran out of source materials.
no excuse for the constant cock jokes and decline of dialogue, but when it came to the pirates at number 9, i’ll give them a bit of credit since tyrion didn’t have anything to promise them anymore, money wise anyway. Abandoned the Lannisters and hadn’t been accepted by Dany yet so it was a bit different from the encounter with the hill tribes
I always stumble across your GOT videos, and always wind up watching them, and am always so pumped you put The Vagabond by Marcin in there. Love it man, great content
The only sense I could find in Bran becoming king is that Bran will know about every single treason, treachery, assassination before hand and will squash it.
Know one even knows his powers though and even if they did he could just be the hand or even just a council member.
i am still haunted by the sound of "the bell"
I never understood why the Dothraki wanted to kidnap her so bad
Because in the S5 finale they knew who she was.
The way Gendry talks about his "loving father" King Robert and how he wants revenge against the Lannister's for killing Bobby B still liter literally makes me queasy my stomach. Oh yeah and the Warhammer and acting like him and Jon Snow are Robert and Ned reborn throwing up right now as I type this. It would be so funny if it wasn't so damn tragic
Don't forget that the Sandsnakes were present at Jamie and Myrcella's farewell and in the next season they are suddenly on board the ship that they previously saw sailing away from Dorne. That's stupidity on very high level.
Sorry for late reply, no one cares now I'm sure, but seriously, Dany couldn't just fly to the building Cersi is in and destroy it only? Good video, so glad you brought up how dumb it was Jon constantly saying muh queen, muh queen...got so sick of hearing that.
S7 and S8 were the Disney versions of GoT.
My list is simple. The last ten episodes, the last few of S7 and all of S8. How about the WWs magically having humongous chains to pull the dragon out of the frozen water? Aside from your #1 pick, my worst moments were Arya killing the Night King with ease, and Dany pointlessly razing Kings Landing.
The only episode of season 8 that I'm willing to remove from the worst episode list is 8x2 purely for Brienne being knighted and the song Jenny of Oldstones.
It's not great but it's not as trash as the rest of the season
I don't know what is worse Bran being elected king or everybody being okay with without and debate at all. Talk about the laziest ending of all time
1:32 - Not to toot my own horn too much but I wasn't. I'd been complaining about the declining quality of "Game of Thrones" ever since season 5 screwed up Sansa's arc so badly.
I tried rewatching the show and when I got to season 5 I couldn’t keep going. It drastically gets worse so fast
Very true. Trying to rewatch only highlights and heightens the plot holes and crappy writing one overlooked the first time around. D&D really butchered this story, there's even a proof from rewatching and reevaluating the good things! That's some achievement.
Littlefinger’s death pisses me of sm, one of the best characters with such a stupid death
If there's one positive you can take from this, is that I now finally understand Greyworm's scene with the executions. It was dropped, then put back in to bump up the runtime. It finally makes sense to me now. So thank you for making this video!
I would have been okay atleast if Arya had killed one of the night kings generals but for him to die by her makes no sense
When I saw Rhaegal death for the first time I honestly thought Daenerys has a nightmare and she will wake up in a moment
In the first two or three episodes they say it takes a month to get from kings landing to winterfell it should take like a month and a half to get from dragon stone to the wall
Should at least take a month. And are we *really* to assume that one month had passed for each Dany+Jon trip down to Kings Landing?
1:12 that scene is confusing asf. i was like "how did they got into the ship and the lannisters didn't chase them?"
Don't let the downfall of GoT distract you from the fact that Westworld turned into Jessie Pinkman doing UberCrimes gigs on his phone.
Okay but let's be clear, GRRM never confirmed that he said anything about Daenerys going mad to D&D for the final season. Actually he's been hinting at this ending being very different in his books.
Eh, I have read somewhere that Bran becoming a king is Martin's idea, out of all shitty things we have seen in season 7 and 8. Which...makes me kind of bothered cause it sounds so incredibly stupid. Either Martin comes up with an amazing way of tying it all together to make Bran the king of Westeros...if he actually still plans on finishing it...or it will be just as stupid as in the show.
No one who's at least a decent writer would write it the way D&D did. And Martin is a great writer.
Obviously Martin would have multiple character arcs for Bran to make it sense.
As a fan that got introduced to ASOIAF through Game of Thrones, and who loves the show as a whole.... this list was on point. I agree with literally every point you made here. 🎯
It makes me feel better about having these same massive complaints with the show.
Thanks for the video!
Season 5 and 6 were already starting to go off the rails, but they had their moments.
Season 7 was bad.
Season 8 was Wiping-a-pop-cultural-juggernaut-from-pop-culture bad. Dumb and Dumber nuked this generations version of Star Wars from space.
To be fair, The Red Woman did have one of the best scenes in season 6 with Ramsay grieving for Myranda, maybe not enough to render it the best episode of the season (looking at you Glidus) but it does add a few points.
I totally agree. "Beyond the Wall" is where I understood this show has jumped the shark. It was clear to me that this is now bad fan fiction.
I love about s8 ep3 where Jon say, ,,we cant beat them in straight fight,, but then proceeds to put dothraki in front line without any means to kill wights, nobody expected melissandre or her giving flaming weapons to them which basically means they were about to throw away their units like russian suicide battalions
thanks for shouting out S5 & S6. when i first watched GoT, only 6 seasons were available and i was highly impressed by all of them, especially with the high note S6E10 left on (cersei blowing up the sept & arya killing frey). then S7 & S8 were complete disasters for me, so i couldn't quite grasp why true fans claimed the writing got bad even earlier (post S4). the way they diminished littlefinger's character is a hate crime, and i see it now. it's such a shame though that D&D couldn't come up with something on par with the theories i saw online, they're always 100x better than what we got in the end. i'm not sure if i'll ever be able to rewatch the show knowing the bad quality, but who knows? maybe i'll finally read the books. here's to hope GRRM actually finishes them, like during my lifetime lol.
You know Season 8 is rough when all but 1 episode of the season made it into this top 10 worst list. 😬
I think George just wanted to give Hollywood the ball so they could utterly drop it. He had a problem cause he wanted more promotion but he didn’t want to spoil the story.
So he solved that problem the way any noseless time traveling gnome would have. Bran might sit the Iron Throne. But we all know it’s really Bloodraven, the sorcerer! The pale bird, with bloody beak, perched on King Aerys’ shoulder, cawing in his ear! The mark of hell is on his face and in his empty eye!
Yes!!! Bran is Bloodraven 👏🏼
I was rewatching got and I caught myself hoping that it might end differently this time,but it's always the same fucking disappointment. Its even more visible when you binge the show in a couple months , when your memories of the first seasons are still fresh
Of course, if you only listen to mediocre haters in mediocre videos.
I’m glad they improved a lot in house of the dragon. If D&D wrote it they would’ve had the 2 SA scenes put in and about 10 sex scenes. I’m glad the SA was done off screen we really don’t need to see it to get the message
They had no involvement in the new prequel, and a lot of their sycophants from the writing team also left with them, so that explains the better quality of the new show
"you might be surprised that season 6 is on the list" no season 6 was pretty bad
The actress who plays the waif is very good in Andor! ✊
Also: read the books, or listen to the audiobooks 👍
Excellent breakdown, I agree with everything. The narrative of season 8 is where the show suddenly got bad is false.
"The Long Night" quite literally redefined jumping the shark. It was beyond a doubt the stupidest, most nonsensical episode of any series ever shown.
I think beyond the wall is easily top 4 in this
"Good gods they can raise the dead! Quick... Get all the woman and children into the crypt!"
I'm not surprised to see season 6 on here. I felt that the show started it's downward spiral as early as season 5. Once they ran out of book material and removed some book plot lines they lost the quality. But season 5 was also the time I feel like the show caught on with masses of viewers and it's popularity didn't suffer until season 7.
The ending was bad because all the good endings were already predicted by fans and DnD are just too arrogant and picked an unexpected ending even if it was bad.